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Speaker 2: iHeart app. You know, we have a lot of airline

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Speaker 2: news today, a lot of Boeing news, as you might expect,

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Speaker 2: And in a few minutes we are going to talk

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Speaker 2: to Timothy Loranger. He represents a group of passengers who

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Speaker 2: are on the Alaska Airlines plane first week of January

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Speaker 2: when the door plug blew out and that be can't

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Speaker 2: begin the series of bad Boeing stories that's plagued the

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Speaker 2: company now for two months. But it's all our own fault.

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Speaker 2: Timothy Loranger is going to be on to talk about

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Speaker 2: his client's view because one of his clients actually had

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Speaker 2: his sock and shoe sucked right off his body, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's uh, pretty crazy. They should have seen this

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Speaker 2: coming for a while, according to Laurrange Or will talk

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Speaker 2: to him about it. But this angle of the story

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Speaker 2: is funny. You remember the air the airplane movies right,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, all right. This scene is out of one

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a grown man naked? No? Thanks

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Speaker 3: for asking, though.

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Speaker 2: Here this is about the flight that happened from Australia

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand. It's the seven eighty seven Dreamliner, the

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Speaker 2: one that took a nose dive and dropped five hundred

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Speaker 4: Terrifying.

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Speaker 3: All right, what did one guy say? He looked up.

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Speaker 3: It was like that extra, like the extracise. There was

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Speaker 3: are laughing. I'm thirty people went to the hospital. You're

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Speaker 3: giggling laughing because it's so out. Well, listen to this.

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Speaker 2: It looks like according to Boeing, it was a La

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Speaker 2: Latim Airlines flight attendant was delivering food to the pilot's

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Speaker 2: and she accidentally hit a switch on the pilot's seat

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Speaker 3: She's in big trouble. She must be very embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: Well, the switch is on the back of the chair

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Speaker 2: and is usually covered and he's not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: used when a pilot is in the seat. But since

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Speaker 2: it was uncovered and she bumped into it, that started

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Speaker 2: the chain reaction. There's some kind of design flaw in

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Speaker 2: all this. What's nuts is they knew this as far

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Speaker 2: back as twenty seventeen, and it sent out a notice

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Speaker 2: saying be careful back the chairs for loose covers, and

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Of course this was what seven years ago they came

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Speaker 2: out with the members. Shouldn't there be shouldn't it be

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Speaker 2: more complicated than that? If the pilot is pushed forward,

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Speaker 2: that shouldn't send the plane into a nose dive?

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't it be like a series of switches he has

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Speaker 2: to hit in order to do that. Fifty passengers required

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Speaker 3: They didn't say, no it was. Because it's going to

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Speaker 2: So Boeing says, we've taken the precautionary to remind seven

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. So go through your file of service bulletins,

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Speaker 2: go back seven years, just a few hundred probably, and

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Speaker 2: which is very blustophobic. Let's say, right, it's really tightly packed,

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Speaker 3: Well what do we have to investigate? You seem to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but well, investigators need something to do,

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Speaker 2: fifty people in the hospital. Veronica Martinez said, it was

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Speaker 2: a horrible experience. I saw a baby fly up. That's

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Speaker 3: Is Wait, wasn't a baby in a seat in one

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Speaker 2: That baby's personality is going to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: come back, we're going to talk with Timothy Hornger.

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Speaker 2: He's leaving a lawsuit for a number of passengers against

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Speaker 2: Alaska over that dork plug issue that Boeing had, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to him next. Also, we've got more chilling

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Speaker 2: information about the whistleblower who ended up dead in the

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Speaker 2: hotel parking lot in Charleston. John Barnett, of the one

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Speaker 2: who they say, committed suicide. Well maybe he didn't. He

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about all that coming up.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. That's

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Speaker 2: the podcast. Well, we've got even more here on Boeing

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Speaker 2: and specifically the Alaska Airlines flight that started this whole

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Speaker 2: series of stories of Boeing, one safety issue after another.

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Speaker 2: The original story is the door plug blowing out in January,

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Speaker 2: and if you remember, there were a number of passengers

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Speaker 2: who nearly got sucked out of the plane and others

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Speaker 2: who were traumatized. And a group is filing a lawsuit

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Speaker 2: against Boeing, Alaska Airlines, Spirit Arrow Systems that supplies the

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Speaker 3: And others.

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Speaker 2: Timothy Lranger. Welcome to the John Cobelt Show.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: These people were where they all gathered around where the

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Speaker 5: Yes. Absolutely, the clients that I represent were very close

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Speaker 5: to where the door plug exploded out of the fuselage.

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Speaker 5: Uh Tuon Tran was one row behind. He was, if

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Speaker 5: suffered physical injuries and serious uh you know, psychological injuries

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Speaker 2: In fact, Tran said he saw another person's shirt gets

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you know why the two seats immediately adjacent to

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Speaker 2: the door plug were empty? I thought that was an

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Speaker 2: incredible coincidence. There were only six empty seats, and it

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Speaker 2: there are people have been wondering, did two people who

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Speaker 5: Well, I've heard those stories that there was whistling coming

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Speaker 5: clear about is whether or not that was on this

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Speaker 5: there were other reports that the cockpit was getting some

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Speaker 5: signals that there was a problem with the pressurization system. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's possible. We don't know yet, but those things may

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Speaker 5: have all been related to the ultimate failure that we

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Speaker 2: That's a possibility I hadn't thought of. But they were

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Speaker 5: And that's an excellent point. So if the airplan, if

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Speaker 2: A story I forgot it was in the New York

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're hearing? Is that what you're getting

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Speaker 5: That is what we're hearing. And it just raises so

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Speaker 5: many questions about when you you know, how you make

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Speaker 5: on the side of caution. Safety is paramount. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: we'll hear that from the defendants or you know, from

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Speaker 5: Boeing and Alaska Airlines. That's their main concern. Why not

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Speaker 5: take this out the safest route, pull the aircraft out

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine this thing would go to trial. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it happened.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in the world knows it happened. The question is,

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Speaker 2: you know, how quickly are they going to come to

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Speaker 2: a settlement? Is that the way you see it, Well, we.

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Speaker 5: Will prepare the case for a trial, you know, that's

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Speaker 5: we always make sure that we're ready to go to trial.

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Speaker 5: But as we know, most cases settle. In this situation,

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Speaker 5: the liability. Seems to be very clear that the work

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Speaker 5: They you know, bolts apparently were not installed on the

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Speaker 5: in that regard. Uh. And so yes, you know, we'll

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Speaker 5: see what happens. Settlement makes sense in a case like this.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's there's so many So there's so much evidence

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Speaker 2: that is stacking up against them. The bolts weren't there,

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Speaker 2: they don't have video the factory work being done that's

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Speaker 2: each one of these by itself is outrageous. You add

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Speaker 5: It really is. It really is, And especially in light

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Speaker 5: of all of the other issues that Boeing has that

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Speaker 5: tablet of other issues that have since. So I agree

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, are you getting calls from any insiders whistleblowers explaining

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Speaker 2: So you have John Barnett and he's talking so much

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Speaker 7: Barnard's family friend, Jennifer said they had talked about this

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Speaker 7: And when Jennifer needed help one day, Barnett came by

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Speaker 7: Jennifer Knew. He filed an extremely damaging complaint against Boeing.

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Speaker 7: He says the aerospace giant retaliated against him when he

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Speaker 4: He wasn't concerned about taking because I asked him, I said,

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Speaker 4: I think somebody got in there and made you know,

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Speaker 7: And just because John Mitch Barnett is dead doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: All right, that is ABC four in Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he with that with those seats, either people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody else who speaks out.

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Speaker 2: Well, now the thing is now that it's aw Barnett

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Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock Michael Monks from KFI News,

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Speaker 2: All right, it's bad enough we have every crazy person,

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Speaker 3: And then together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they walked away and Lucido ran into them,

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Speaker 2: and another manager from the bar saw the two of

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Speaker 2: them leaving with drinks and that's a violation of the

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Speaker 2: city code. You can't have open alcohol in the streets.

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Speaker 2: You can't drink. And Lucido said, we have to stop them,

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Speaker 2: because if we allow people to leave intoxicated and they're drinking,

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Speaker 2: they're drinking outside, then then the bar gets in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Lucido said, they tussled. I went to grab the glass

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Speaker 2: and he pushed me and fell to the ground and

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Speaker 2: I flew back. Now, Lucido's attorney, John Duran, is claiming

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Speaker 2: that that Kilpatrick thought he was being attacked because he's gay,

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Speaker 2: and so it was reasonable to fight back, but that,

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Speaker 2: of course does not address the urination on the door.

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Speaker 2: He has now quit his job as a Corcenta Valley

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Speaker 2: town councilman. Even the politicians coming see.

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Speaker 1: This is the thing.

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Speaker 2: Once the norm has been broken, nobody thinks anything is

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Speaker 2: illegal anymore. Right, you could just steal stuff from Target.

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Speaker 2: You could peel over the front door of a bar.

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Speaker 3: What does it matter?

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Speaker 2: In fact, I don't think he would have gotten arrested

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Speaker 2: for that. It's just that the uh, the bar manager

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Speaker 2: thought that that was that was offensive. Now I got

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Speaker 2: a story about I mentioned this yesterday about California's bullet train.

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Speaker 3: It's it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to need another one hundred billion dollars. One

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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. They have built, already spent ten billion,

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Speaker 2: and there's not a foot of track laid down. ABC

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Speaker 2: seven Rob Hayes did a report on it.

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Speaker 3: Play this.

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Speaker 6: We California's bullet train was pitched to voters back in

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Speaker 6: two thousand and eight. The cost of linking Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: to San Francisco via high speed rail was said to

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Speaker 6: be about forty billion dollars, But now more than fifteen

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Speaker 6: years in, state officials say it's going to take as

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Speaker 6: much as thirty five billion dollars just to complete the

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Speaker 6: one hundred and seventy one mile stretch between Bakersfield and

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Speaker 6: Verse said finishing the entire line, well, that's going to

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Speaker 6: take an additional one hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: It's never going to come to LA and it's always

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Speaker 1: going to be one hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 6: Raid Republican Brian Jones's California Senate minority leader and a

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Speaker 6: fierce opponent of the high speed rail project. The latest

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Speaker 6: bullet train update came earlier this week at a California

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Speaker 6: State Senate High Speed Rail Authority hearing. The authorities CEO

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Speaker 6: saying he's looking to the that Aeral government for more

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Speaker 6: funding as well as from private industry, but insists the

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Speaker 6: project is still viable.

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Speaker 4: The only way you get the public is by performing better,

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Speaker 4: and I think the Authority is performing better today than

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Speaker 4: it was, and I think it will going forward.

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Speaker 6: Opponents, though, say the project has been sucking too much

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Speaker 6: money away from issues that are more important to California taxpayers,

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Speaker 6: like education, housing, and mental health. Jones is pushing for

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Speaker 6: the state to hit the brakes on the bullet train

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Speaker 6: and walk away, but Jones does say bullet trains can't

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Speaker 6: have a future in California. He points to the bright

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Speaker 6: Line West project that aims to connect Las Vegas to

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles with a two hour train ride speeds hitting

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Speaker 6: up to two hundred miles per hour. The difference, Jones says,

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Speaker 6: is that private companies and investors are driving that project

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Speaker 6: with considerably less dependence on taxpayer funding.

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Speaker 7: When you put projects like this in the private enterprise,

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Speaker 7: you get efficiency and you get proper planning.

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Speaker 6: But even the Brightline project has gotten three billion dollars

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Speaker 6: in federal fonts, and the company's founder recently told the

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Speaker 6: La Times that round trip tickets will eventually cost more

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Speaker 6: than four hundred dollars, a price in many Californians may

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Speaker 6: consider to.

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Speaker 2: Be off the rails. Four hundred dollars. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: it was going to be that expensive round tipped to

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas and pack. Well, if that's going to be

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Speaker 2: the price, I don't know, you'll.

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Speaker 3: Drive, yeah, I mean, I don't see these trains being competitive.

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Speaker 2: The glory, the glory days of trains ended around the

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, once jet travel became common and then you had,

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Speaker 2: you know, coast to coast jet travel, and then that

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Speaker 2: was it for trains. I don't understand the continued push

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Speaker 2: for an outdated technology.

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Speaker 3: It's it's I cannot believe. I cannot believe this Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 2: But you know, he's making a lot of money as

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Speaker 2: the CEO, so of course he's gonna say, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just just need a little more money, that's

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Speaker 3: all we need. You know, we'll show you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you've had sixteen years, buddy, sixteen years, and there

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Speaker 2: is no Let's just write off the billions of dollars

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Speaker 2: we spent. The unions got paid, Guys like Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: got paid. You don't justify the hundred billion extra. Nobody's

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Speaker 2: gonna Nobody is going to go from Merced to Bakersfield

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Speaker 2: or Bakersfield and Merced. No one's gonna do that. We

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Speaker 2: come back, when we come back. Hello, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: I got so mad.

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Speaker 2: Got Michael Monks coming up. Can'tfin news he's going to

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Speaker 2: a six year old because he'd whacked another kid, not

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Speaker 2: Santa Monica Police Department. LAPD solved the case. Hey, you've

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