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Speaker 1: the weather? No, mister Dopka, you're fired. I could do that.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, as a way of paying him back, I

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Speaker 1: anywhere I can to this business. Get a backstage pass

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Speaker 1: to the Phil Henry Show at Phil hendryshow dot com

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Speaker 1: for one month less than ten bucks for one year,

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Speaker 1: you got to buy a year. You got to buy

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Speaker 1: of award winning radio Hall of Fame. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: oh boy. Anyway, get a Radio Hall of Fame backstage

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Speaker 1: pass from mister Radio Hall of Fame guy, Phil Henry

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Speaker 1: at Phil Henryshow dot com. A backstage pass subscription to

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Speaker 1: his website, Phil Henryshow dot com, the greatest value online

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Speaker 1: other than porn. I don't want to read that anymore.

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Speaker 1: This is Don Burman on The Burman and Tonight by

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Speaker 1: very special guest will be Tom Dokk radio consultants. As

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Speaker 1: then I were going to be talking specifically about one

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Speaker 1: no business dealings no more. I'm sorry. Any business it's

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Speaker 1: cracker barrel is a it's a it's a barrel of fun. Huh. Well,

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Speaker 1: the food. But the logo is what we're talking about now,

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Speaker 1: It was a barrel that I don't know. Do you

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Speaker 1: I don't think they keep crackers in it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was the man and he's leaning against it and

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Speaker 1: No, what did it represent? Well? I mean it, but again,

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Speaker 1: it represented was this is a guy saying, hey, how

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Speaker 1: man at the barrel? Bud, do you haven't I get well?

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Speaker 1: I think the hold on for a minute, is buddy?

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Speaker 1: As long as Phil said that Bud could comment because

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Speaker 1: Mister Dadka? You know the name's Dadka. You don't mind?

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Speaker 1: What is my last Name's Dadka? Not Dapka. Oh oh?

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Speaker 1: I understanding? Was it was Dan Davka. No, I'm Don Berman.

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Speaker 1: What's your name? Bill Dickman? Didn't they call you ed? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like Bob Dickman. All right, can

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Speaker 1: not Dan Davka. But I mean the cracker barrel. What

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Speaker 1: the cracker barrel, it's a brand. And as the brand

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Speaker 1: to the Cracker Barrel. Yeah, something like that, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Cracker Barrel. Now, this has been there for many,

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Speaker 1: many years, and the people that own Cracker Barrel, the

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Speaker 1: people that owned the brand, the people that own the restaurant,

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Speaker 1: decided to change it. And Bud, you have some of

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Speaker 1: the creeps. You know, what are you talking about? The creeps? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean people would walk by. It'd be like if

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Speaker 1: he's not he looks suspicious. He does he looks suspicious

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Speaker 1: What is ever? He said, could you please clear? Could

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Speaker 1: so we don't have to get trafficked. Well that's what

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Speaker 1: He's like staring at the people. Liked the women are

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Speaker 1: I don't think it, did it? If you guy? Look

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying, here's this guy as you walk into

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Speaker 1: He needs to go get his he needs to get vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: Of course, these are people that have been the Cracker

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, mister Burman. Am I speak

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Speaker 1: So what about the what's your opinion on the guy the.

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Speaker 2: guy dead. I don't think he's dead, but I think

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Speaker 2: he's close to it. I think he's close to death.

422
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: I think that it's a very, very spart that the

423
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Speaker 2: people at Cracker Barrel got rid of. That's got rid

424
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Speaker 2: of the trademark, throw the logo, They got rid of

425
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Speaker 2: the spokes bottle or whatever you want to call it,

426
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Speaker 2: and are back to doing what Cracker Barrel does best,

427
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: which is, in my opinion, what they do best is

428
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: serving food that you can barely get down. And I

429
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Speaker 2: mean that with all due respect. I've tried, God how

430
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 2: I've tried to like their food. I've tried and tried

431
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 2: and tried to like their food. But I can't like

432
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: their food because this food you can barely get done.

433
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: You can barely get done. Once you get it done,

434
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Speaker 2: then you have to sit there and go.

435
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Speaker 1: Ye all right, thank you very much for your call.

436
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 1: What what is that? That was cladmin? Yeah, that was clad, Ben,

437
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: He was clad. He was clad in a sear sucker suit.

438
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Speaker 1: That's why they called him. Yeah, they that's what they do.

439
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: That's why they do. Yeah. Okay, here's another phone call.

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Speaker 1: This is Bobby Dooley and mis Duley is a well

441
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: known caller on the field Henry Show. Mssduley. How are

442
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: you well?

443
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Like good evening time? Hello? Do Tom Dipka? Is it?

444
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: It's Tom Dobka. Man.

445
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: I've told you I'm not a man.

446
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: No, I was gonna. I said I was Tom Dobka, ma'am.

447
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 2: Okay, it's I thought it was Dipka. It's dodka.

448
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: No, ma'am, it's not dodka. It's dovka, not divka, not dicka.

449
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: I didn't say dicka. My wife didn't say dick.

450
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: That's you mean. I didn't. I didn't think she said dick,

451
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: Miss Duli. How are you? This is Don Burma. What

452
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Speaker 1: can we do for you?

453
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Speaker 2: Thank you?

454
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Speaker 4: John?

455
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband and I were talking about this. We

456
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: do not have cracker barrow in California, uh cracker bearre

457
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: but we've enjoyed cracker barrel. Down here in California. We

458
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Speaker 2: have something in in in something called Clamtown, USA.

459
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Speaker 1: And this is what it's called clam I've never heard

460
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Speaker 1: of it. I live in California.

461
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Speaker 2: You never heard of Clampdown, USA?

462
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: No, I am not. But have you no, ma'am, I

463
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: haven't heard of that, mister di I it's still Tom Dobka. No,

464
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: I have not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you guys are missing out. Clamtown you it is

466
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Speaker 2: the capital of the clam High. I'm mister Clam. That's

467
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 2: their entire ad. And it's a clam with a smiling

468
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: face and a crown on his head. Clamtown, USA. You

469
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: never had it so good High, I'm mister clam. It's

470
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Speaker 2: right there on the billboard.

471
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Speaker 1: But you're trying to compare this to a cracker.

472
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Speaker 2: Barrel, Yes, because the branding is very benevolent. You see

473
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: mister Clam with a smile, with a crown on his head,

474
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Speaker 2: and he has these two fake arms and he's holding

475
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: them out and he wants to hug the world. Then

476
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 2: you have this cracker barrel where they have a man

477
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Speaker 2: half dead, possibly a serial murderer, someone who no one

478
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: knows where he's from. No one knows where he's from,

479
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 2: No one knows where he's going. You got to follow

480
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Speaker 2: him around the minute you lose track of if you're

481
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: scared to death. My wife's scared. But any kind of

482
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Speaker 2: a creep that's hanging.

483
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Around so here, you think that this guy, a cracker

484
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: barrel guy, is indeed a creep that looks to be

485
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Speaker 1: someone they have to watch him for it.

486
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, okay. Any guy that hangs around a

487
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: barrel and just hugs the barrel and spiling it and

488
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: he's patting the top of the barrel. Someone said there's

489
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: probably body parts in there, and I agree with.

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Speaker 1: It, all right, thank you very much. That's Bobby Dooley. Yeah, Dooley, Okay,

491
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Speaker 1: And uh, what what is it? Well, I you say,

492
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: there's Bobby Dooley, Like she's God's gift to the earth.

493
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: What is she? She's a very regular caller on the

494
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Speaker 1: Ftal Henry Show. She's not. She's not God's gifts of

495
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: the Earth. But you know, I don't know. She's a

496
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: very important member of the of the show, of the

497
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: show audience. Well, I don't know, okay. See, and here

498
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: we are talking about people, you know, a guy. That's

499
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: some guy that looks like some creep and he's hanging

500
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: around the Cracker Barrel and they had him at the

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: logo was this creep? And what Cracker Barrel ot to

502
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: say is we got tired of having some guy that

503
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: looks like he We got tired of having some guy

504
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: that looks like he's in the Epstein list. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

505
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: it's finally got ha said, didn't you know? He does?

506
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: He looks like you got a guy hanging around a

507
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: barrel of Cracker Barrel that looks like he's on the

508
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Epstein List. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. So, yeah, they

509
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of that guy. Well he didn't

510
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: get rid of him. They brought him back. So now

511
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: how do you feel. I don't give a shit. Yeah

512
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. So I'm just saying, you understand

513
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, I understand what you're saying. He looks

514
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: like a pervert. Yes he does. That's why Cracker Barrel

515
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: has made a very big mistake in bringing back the

516
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel guy. Because he looks like he's a freek,

517
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: because he looks like a stinking perv. Because he looks

518
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: like a pervert as he's sitting there smiling pat in

519
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: a barrel. Like in the barrel here, I've got a

520
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred and maybe a two hundred asses from young boys

521
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: or something. Oh my god, what are you talking about? God,

522
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, that's thank you very much,

523
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Tom Well, I'm just saying, well, thank you very much. Oh.

524
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if the guy like carved up bodies,

525
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: I understand. Oh let me, let me, let me sit down.

526
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Didn't move over here, mister Dodkin. Yeah. See he's all

527
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: sick and he's all worried about our kays. I'm just saying,

528
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: the cracker barrel guy looks like some guy's probably got

529
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: dead eyes when you look at him. I mister cracker

530
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: barrel guy in there, he has his eyes are just

531
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: dead lit it over and staring at you and looking

532
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: at you like you're nothing more than a prize turkey's

533
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna carve up later on. And I want to think

534
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, that's yeah, that's the way you say it. Yeah,

535
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody like that should be getting

536
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: given no accolades. I'm not you're being a guy. Accolades.

537
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Laid back down, you gotta lay back down, mister Berman.

538
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: Don't look caught. Lay down. Yeah, you gotta lay down.

539
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: You look terrible. My name is Tom Dovka, and you're

540
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: listening to the Phil Henry Show. Tom Doveka, real you consultant.

541
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Contact Tom at the Kevco Building in Chicago, Illinois, and

542
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: have your show consulted to death. We're just kidding. And

543
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: have your show consulted by Tom. He'll consult it and

544
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: consult it and consult it yet again until it's it's

545
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: fully consultant. You don't worry about that. I'm Tom Dovka.

546
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: Look me up there at the Cabco building. Okay, give

547
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: me a call, all right, I'll work a deal out. Okay.

548
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: If I'm not there, I'm in my car. Call my

549
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: car phone and that's probably the same number Tom Doveka

550
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: radio consultant, and welcome back here. This is Don Bartman.

551
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: And one more phone call. We have Sugy here, Sugary High.

552
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: How do you doing?

553
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm newly really gonna want to ask you guys, why

554
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: is it that they just can't just keep the guy

555
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: that they had the logo, even if he looked like

556
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: he was a child molester. I don't know a pedterest.

557
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Just keep it because you look friendly enough. He was

558
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: leaning against the barrel, saying, come on and hassan to eat,

559
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: because even if you know, you could see even if

560
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: I'm a pervert, even if I'm some kind of a pervert,

561
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: if I like do it to do it with dogs

562
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: and horses. I don't know, he said, But even a

563
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: guy like me got to eat. And the food that

564
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: I eat is just the same food you eat, and

565
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: I gotta eat.

566
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: You know, are you saying that the guy still is

567
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: viable as a spokesman for a restaurant.

568
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what that meant.

569
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: I'm you're saying that the guy still works as a

570
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: spokesman for a restaurant.

571
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think he works real good

572
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: because you look at it. You already know what the

573
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: show sound like. And you want to have a guy

574
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: who says, you know, I know I look like I'm

575
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: a pervert. I know I look like I'm a sexual predator.

576
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: I know I look like I'm just something that ought

577
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: to be in a cage. I know I look like

578
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: some real sick Yeah, you know, all right?

579
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: That is whatever he is, that's the guy I didn't

580
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: give his name, didn't he didn't give his name, and

581
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: yet you knew what his name was. Yeah, I'm Don

582
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Berman and this has been the Berman beat tonight. Looking

583
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: at the Cracker Barrel logo, and I think we've come

584
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that the Cracker Barrel logo the guy's back.

585
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Though he may be some sort of a creep that

586
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: follows kids home. Yeah, that's the thing. You don't know.

587
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: He looks like the kind of guy that would follow

588
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: a woman into a parking lot. You know what I'm saying,

589
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Like late at night, Hey, welcome to Cracker Barrel. I'm

590
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the guy, And the lady says, oh great, you're gonna

591
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: sit next to the barrel. He says, yeah, but guess what,

592
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow you into a parking lot tonight and

593
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: there's nobody and then nobody around. Well all I all,

594
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I say, that's our read. Okay, I don't go to

595
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel. I wouldn't know Cracker Barrel if it was

596
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: it was across the street and it was on fire.

597
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I didn't stay. It's very I didn't say it's very tasty. Yeah,

598
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: just don't buy booze there. Well, you can't buy booze

599
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: on a blue Sunday cracker barrel. It's a great place

600
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: to eat, But the guy that sits next to the

601
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: barrel looks like, I don't know, he may be one

602
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: of the undead. Don Berman is produced by Phil Henry.

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