WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 144: Able & Available 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:06.720 This week on a Happy half Hour, the question about 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.360 jac was never an ability, it was availability. In this year, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.520 he's in the top ten of the league and snap's 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.480 played while missing an entire game. So the fact that 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.279 jc Horn has proven he's got a thousand snaps in 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.600 him in a year, I think that kind of takes 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:21.560 care of that question. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.360 What's the cow wha? 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.000 It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented by Southern Star, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.800 an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.880 Here are your hosts. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.800 Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.320 Hello friends, and welcome to the Happy New Year edition 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:48.960 of The Happy Half Hour. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.720 Oh I like what you did there, I see what 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:51.120 she did? 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.120 Yeah, all things happy only happy today, Happy New Year, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.200 Happy half Hour. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.200 You know this brings up actually a quick question I've 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.720 been wanting to ask you for a while because for 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.920 whatever reason, I feel like you'll know the answer to it, 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:05.039 and I just keep. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.480 Forgetting appreciate you giving me that much. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.200 Gad, what does old Lang's song mean? 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:11.679 Old Lang sign? 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:12.720 Yeah? That one? 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.000 Yeah, Okay, we'll get to that later. So right now, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.919 I really we've got it. We've got to be grateful 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.280 for the people who bring this fine show to all 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.600 our listeners, the good friends at Southern Star. The Happy 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.560 Half Hours presented by Southern Star, of course, an official 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.600 bourbon partner of the Carolina Panthers, celebrate the spirit of 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.520 the Carolinas and there's all kind of stuff to celebrate. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.040 It's Pro Bowl Day, ladies and gentlemen. J C. Horn, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.119 how about that? 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.399 Well deserved? He has had quiet a year and a 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.720 year that I think the Panthers were expecting God of 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.520 him when he was drafted and just has had injuries 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.960 stop him every step of the way. You know, something 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.360 that a gerro have ever told him when he when 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.760 he found out, was you know, you've had a long 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.000 row to get here, just with injuries and then with 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.120 the way teams play you. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.440 So this is well deserved, and he is right. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.480 It really is amazing, And it's amazing for a couple 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.600 of reasons. I mean, Number one, this football team's four 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.399 and twelve. Four and twelve teams generally do not get 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:20.240 a lot of Pro Bowl recognition. Number two played zero 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.720 primetime games this year, which means the vast majority of 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.200 the people in the football world didn't see a lot 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.840 of J. C. Horn this year. Number three, fan voting, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.960 which is a component of this thing, included only one 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.760 Panther in the top ten, and that was Raheem Blackshear 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.600 and kick returns. So I mean, any of the Carolina 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.920 Panthers who got recognized at all got recognized by their peers. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.880 That was player and coach voting. And it goes to 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.639 show that among that subset of people out there in 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.400 the world, they look at J. C. Horn and say, yep, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:55.240 there's that guy. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.919 Yeah. That's a good point about the fan voting too, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.840 because you know, you also you good on social media 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.480 and you see stuff and you think that that is 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.839 the presuming thought, and you have to remember that that's 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.960 often a vacuum because you know, you get on social 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.720 media and you see one or two clips of JC 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.680 versus Mike Evans and the end zone giving up a touchdown, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.480 and you think that was his whole season the way 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.440 it's kind of shaped, and that narrative is shaped, and 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.800 it really was not. That was the anomaly, not the 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.160 standard for JC this year. He locked a lot of 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.280 guys up. I think Dave can Alice said this yesterday 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.960 and I'm like ninety eight point five percent sure he 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:32.600 was correct. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.079 So I'm gonna go ahead and quote him on. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.240 This, and if it's you in math, I trust it implicit. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.600 Yeah, should have seen me trying to do a subtraction, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.520 probably in the press box the other day, and I 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.360 think Darren almost got me a bottle of water. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.160 I was stressing myself out so much. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.760 There was smoke coming off your head. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.000 But Dave Canellis said yesterday that j C and Mike 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.960 Jackson are are like the top corner duo and their 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.120 ability to shut people down as a corner duo, and 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.640 a lot of that, I mean, and a lot of 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.880 credit to Mike Jackson for the season he's had, but 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.320 a lot of that has to do with j C. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:05.960 Horn too. 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.240 Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And the question about Jac 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.160 was never an ability, it was availability. And this is 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.560 the year he has played fifteen games. He missed last week. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.400 Here's what's amazing about JC, and it's partly because this 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.960 defense hadn't been terribly good across the board this year. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.159 JAC missed last week's game and is still tenth in 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.400 the league in defensive snaps. Wow, he's in the top 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.920 ten of the league and snaps played while missing an 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.880 entire game. That just shows you. I mean, the dude 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.479 was out there ninety seven point six percent of the 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.080 snaps this year, one thousand and thirty six snaps. That's 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.400 a season's worth for a lot of teams. And if 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.000 the Panthers can get better on defense, they won't play 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.440 that many snaps in the future. So the fact that 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.120 j C. Horn has proven he's got a thousand snaps 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.200 in him in a year, I think that kind of 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.200 takes care of that question. And I always always felt 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.320 bad when j C was portrayed. You know, a lot 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.320 of times when guys have injuries that are different things, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.400 it's like they get painted as injury prone. Somebody would say, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.680 Austin Corbett's injury prone. Well, he toren ACL and then 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.120 he popped a biceps tenant, How are these two things 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.080 related with JC Hornet was a broken foot the following year, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.039 he comes back, plays most of the year, breaks his 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.440 wrist tackling somebody on his zero degree day out here 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.599 against the Lions. How are those two things connected? They're not, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.800 you know, but he is able to come back from 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.080 all this stuff, you know, which is just unlucky. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:32.880 I'm about to say it may be unlucky. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.680 Yeah, it's just bad luck a lot of times. I mean, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.479 it's like with you know, if it's always one soft 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.560 tissue thing over and over and over and maybe you're 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.719 doing something wrong. But when it's three different things, you 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.719 kind of throw up your hands and say, you can't 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.320 blame somebody for that. So, you know, Dave Canal has 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.679 talked about that with us. Yesterday, you got their story 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.360 on Panthers dot com. Everybody ought to check out about 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.440 the way JC got to this point, and you know, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.200 he talked about you could see the plan, you could 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.120 see his plan, the way he worked it, the way 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.919 he stayed true to it all off season, you know. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.479 And Jonathan Cooley, the cornerbacks coach passing game coordinator, talked 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.560 about it too, said you could you see it on Sundays, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.120 but where you really see JC make that step is 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.680 on Wednesdays. And it's the way he works and the 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.560 way he shows up daily. And I think there is 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.320 a common thread to what the Carolina Panthers are trying 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.200 to build here. And if you look at who they've 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.560 invested in this offseason, it was Derrick Brown. Was Dereck 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.720 Brown known for a being great his job right, b 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.760 showing up every day and being at the front of 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.440 the line for work. Chewba Hubbard was Cuba. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.359 Do stays two hours more than everyone else and just 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:45.159 keeps working. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.440 He just stays working and he puts in the time. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.279 And so I think Dave Canalis has kind of got 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.640 this sort of culture of grinders going. I mean, look 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.560 at the people who defined this team. It's Cuba Hubbard, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.919 it's Adam thiel and your Walter Payton Mann of the 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.279 Year nominee for this team. Feeling's the patron saying of 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.320 undrafted dudes. Yes, and he's got a you know new 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.720 flock to shepherd now around this place, and Jalen Cochr 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.360 and Dan Schas and all the you know, undrafted fling 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.640 youth that's running around this place and get T shirts. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.480 And now you take j C. Horn, who is a 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.480 pedigree athlete, I mean son of Joe Horn. He was 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.720 born to be this guy in the NFL. And he 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.240 pairs that ability, that talent, that stuff that's so easy 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.280 to see with the kind of work ethic that the 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.600 grinders like Chewba Hubbard and Adam Thielen in those dudes 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.160 all respect. So I think he and Derek are two 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.160 examples of that. Yeah, you're good at football, but you 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.960 also work like a guy who. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.520 Was undrafted, right, And you mentioned Jonathan Cooley in there too. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.640 Got to throw a little credit his way to like 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.760 the way he he runs those dB drills and practices 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.400 is impressive and a grind as well. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.080 Yeah, and Cooley came from the Rams. You know, he's 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.560 had Jalen Ramsey in the past. You know, he knows 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.119 what it's like to coach those guys who were that guy. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.720 And I mean just to listen to him talk about 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.120 JC and what he's done so far this season, it's 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.640 been impressive. But uh, j C is the only Pro 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.240 bowler on this roster. But there are a couple other dudes, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.520 and we and we've mentioned a few of them, but 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.800 the highest I mean, and it's alternates. And now that 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.239 it's Pro Bowl games and it's not an actual game 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.120 that people try to get out of actively, a lot 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.400 of the alternates don't go as much as they went to. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.560 But I do think it's instructed the Cats that got 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.400 the alternate recognition Number one being Rob Hunt. Yeah, you 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.559 know again, pedigree athlete a hundred million dollar free agent contract. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.960 You kind of expect certain things, but look at the 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.200 job he's done this year. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:53.880 I didn't know if that was the pause for audio. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.800 Yeah, no reason, So that that was me offering you 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:58.960 a chance to say nice things about Rob Hunt. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.920 For some reason, that seemed like the pauls you usually 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:02.680 do for audios. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.200 If I was waiting, so. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.800 We're waiting for podcasts. Matt in the background to give 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.640 that quiz a look like one of I suppose it. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.720 But here, ladies and gentlemen, we've taken you behind the 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.680 curtain again. You're at the happy half hour. This is 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.559 how your sausage gets made. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.240 Oh, I need to finish my coffee before I come 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.360 do these things. Blame JJ Janssen for this, but I 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:23.920 blame JJ for a lot of things. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.360 You would have been on time and prepared and ready 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.360 for these quick transitions and this snappy cater and rep artel. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.959 I blame Darren Bates more than JJ. On that one. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.720 I was standing in line for the almond milk coffee 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.520 machine that's the one I need, and somebody was finishing 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.320 up their coffee. My hands got sticky from the syrup, 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.880 and I turned around to wash it, and in the 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.840 ten seconds it took me to wash my hands. I 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.000 turned back around. Darren Bates, it snuck into the almond 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.040 milk goofee machine. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.360 You people in your fancy coffee, Darren Bates deserves preferential treatment. Well, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.520 we'll get our coffee in when we can. And if 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.760 you just drink trucks out black like I do you 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.480 want ever have a life, you can just get out 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.000 of the pot. So Robert Hunt, Rob Hunt. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.400 Everybody like you said about JC with the fan voting 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.320 and it being more his peers, I think a lot 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.720 of peers look around and they see Robert Hunt as 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.839 one of the better tackles, I mean guards in this league. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.880 And they would be right. I want to say, no 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.240 Sacks giving up this year. That was heading in that No, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.640 that was even after the Bucks game. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.840 Yeah, I mean he's put up how much stock you 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.400 choose to put into PFF, you know, pressure ratings and 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.280 all that kind of stuff. Rob's rated really highly my 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.160 PFF and it's well learned. But I think one of 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.079 the things he's done is len a personality to this team. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.440 I mean, if you think back to that Vegas game 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.600 when he got out on the screen and just flattened 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.360 something threw him out of the club. That was that 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.439 moment when it's like, oh God, that guy's different. Yeah, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.480 we ain't seen one like that. I mean last year 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.480 was the year of the revolving door at guards seven 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.800 on the left, eight on the right, and instead of that, 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.199 you get big old Robert Hunt running down the field 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.360 throwing dudes out of the club. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.000 He is everything you want in an offensive lineman. He 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:12.920 can flatten guys, He can flatten them at will. He's tenacious, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.360 he won't he won't give up on a block, and uh, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.760 that's what you want when you have somebody protecting your 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.280 quarterback and then as soon as the helmet comes off, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.839 sometimes a little earlier. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:26.439 Than it might need to. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.800 As we picked on him about recently, he's one of 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.160 the most you said, he's lend a personality to this team. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.560 He's also lent a personality to this locker room. And 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.640 I know that has nothing to do with Pro Bowl holding, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.000 Pro Bowl voting, but it is why his teammates love him, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.920 and probably why teammates around the league, you know when 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.120 he was with the Dolphins, love him as well. But yeah, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.040 he's you go and just watch the film sometimes of 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.440 Robert Hunt, and he doesn't stop, and he'll We had 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.440 him micd up for a game and you go watch 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.600 that miked up. It's so funny because it's like he's 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.840 talking to the defensive lineman he's blocking them, and he's like, no, no, no, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.600 you're not gonna get in. You're not gonna get in. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.959 I'm stopping you this like you ain't. Oh you thought 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.560 you got me, but you didn't. Like he's like teasing 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.600 him as he does it. Yeah, and that you know 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.679 you can't help but love that. It's probably even if 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.600 you're a defensive line, but it's probably fun to play 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.600 against a guy like that. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.360 Rob's good people, He's uh, he has you know. Like 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.680 I said, he's shown up and he's done the thing. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.400 And he's been good at football for a long period 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.040 of time. Again, nine hundred and sixty seven snaps this 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.959 year and he's played every single one of them. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.239 He's the impressive. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.200 He's the only dude on offense who's played every snap 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.199 this season. So it's it's been good. I mean Panthers. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.959 You know again, last year's offensive line was kind of 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.680 a mess, the way guys were getting hurt and it 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.320 was just this guy or after this guy, I mean 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.520 a constant procession of dudes through that room. This year, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.520 they've gone from sixty five snap our sacks allowed to 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.880 thirty six I think thirty six for the you know, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.640 basically cut your sacks in half, and again you'll spend 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.440 one hundred and fifty million bucks on Rob hunting, Damian Lewis, 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.920 you expect that to get better. But I do think 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.079 there's a carryover effect that when you stabilize the middle 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.520 at you know, all of a sudden, nobody's yelling about 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.280 ikey Akwanu nearly as much as they used to. You know, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.520 you realize how good Taylor Moten is on Sundays when 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.240 he's got big Rob stand next to him. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.960 Makes it that really more than almost any other unit 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.880 on the field is required of a full unit. I 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.000 wonder what those sack numbers are if you take out 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.600 the two Tampa Bay games where they just blitz Bama 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.640 blitz the whole time. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.160 Yeah, well, I mean thirty six thirty six on the season. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.240 Eleven of them come in two games against Dallas and Tampa. Yeah, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.199 that kind of got away from him in a lot 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.080 of ways. But but you know, I think it's the 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.360 thing you want to build on going into next year, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.720 when you've kind of figured out over the course of 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.640 this year that Bryce you Young, can in fact play football. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.400 He's pretty good at quarterbacking. You found out that this 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.480 year that that next Pro Bowl alternate, Cuba Hubbard, pretty 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.199 good at football, almost twelve hundred yards ten touchdowns this year. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.319 You know he's a fourth alternate. But again, this is 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.880 Chewba Hubbard, a fourth round pick who was a backup 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.600 and then a backup, and then they bring people in 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.199 left and right around him, and all he's done is 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.800 turn himself into that guy. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.400 Who was ahead of him. Because on one hand, you're 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.400 sentting here going fourth alternate Chewbo Hubbard after the year 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.240 he's had. But on the other hand, he plays in 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:33.480 the NFC where Saquon Barkley plays, where Bucky Irving plays. Sure, uh, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.560 who else would have been ahead of him? 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.880 Bah blah blah. I'm trying to I'm pulling up the 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:39.960 rosters while you. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.320 Pulled us up. Let me ask you a philosophical question. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:43.160 It'll hit me. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.040 Do you think Saquon Barkley should be allowed to play 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:46.560 on Sunday? 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.600 I think if Saquon Barkley wants to play you know, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.440 here's the thing, They've got bigger goals. So I'm okay 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.280 with teams doing what's best for the entire team. I 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:03.520 appreciate Saquan wanting to pursue his individual blah blah blah, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.240 But at the same time, I mean, there's a team 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.320 thing happening here. And if he goes out and gets 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.760 stinged up this week and in available to the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.040 I think we've seen over the course of the year, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.280 we've seen, specifically in a game against Carolina Panthers, that 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.360 the Eagles can only run the ball and beat somebody, right, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.800 that they don't have to pass. So you know, I 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.160 would put the team goals ahead of his individual. But 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.600 you know that's just me. I understand him being a 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:33.800 little salty about it too. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.360 Yeah, I completely understand what you're saying and do agree. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.240 That's got to be a tough one to swallow it though, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.880 when you realize how long that's been standing and that 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.280 nobody's really sniffed it, or at least not this close. Yeah, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.600 and he's what two hundred away? Yeah, I mean that 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.440 would be tough to get in a game. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.640 Right if he was thirty yards away from some Milestone. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.400 I could see letting him play the first quarter and 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.040 then get him on out of there doing the cam 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.200 Ord thing. But at the same time, I mean, when 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.960 it's two hundred, come on, But that would be tough, great, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.520 great year anyway, your NFC running backs or Sakwon Barkley, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.440 jamiir Gibbs, Josh Jacob so we. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.040 Can okay, does make sense, So we can. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.560 Reasonably assume that Bucky Irving is somewhere in there after 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:21.760 a pretty brilliant. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.960 He's recentcy biased on my mind, you know, and that's fine. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.240 I mean the fact that Chewba Hubbard's getting recognized at 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.880 all because again, this guy is the grinders, grinder, I 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:39.040 you know, I perhaps overvalue work ethic guys and overachievers 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:39.800 and stuff like that. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.520 I mean, it's kind of good thing to overvaluate. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.440 It's kind of My personality always lends itself to seeking 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.520 out those kind of people, and that's why it's cool. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.880 Teams need to have a lot of grinders and a 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.720 lot of overachievers. They also need to have talent, so 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.240 it's good when you're talented. Players like Derrick Brown, like 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.280 j C. Horn also happen to hang with the with 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.680 the grinders. But Cuba is just anything he's gotten as 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.639 a player, from a starting job to a bunch of 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.119 yards to a contract extension, he has earned and he 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.480 is earned just by staying late and showing up early 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.160 and doing all those little things right to find out, Oh, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.120 by the way, he happens to be good at football. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.800 This is going back to something we were saying just 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.359 a second ago. Eight of the top ten rushers in 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.440 the league. Really, nine of the top eleven are all 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.960 in the NFC. Yeah, so that was gonna be a 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.920 tough one to break through this year. The other two 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.360 are are Derrick Henry and Taylor India. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.560 Yeah, so you go Sakwon, Kiren Williams, Bijon, Josh Jacobs, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.200 Demir Gibbs. Yeah, it stacks up on that one side 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.040 pretty good. And then you got Bucky Arvin, James Connor, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.679 I mean, different dudes. So it's tough. But again, to 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.720 be on a four and twelve team that never shows 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.080 up on primetime, no love in the fan voting, I 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.240 think speaks to the fact that people around the league 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.320 recognize him. The other the other alternate, Johnny Hecker, is 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.480 this a lifetime achievement? Alternate Award maybe, but that's okay 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.960 because Johnny Hecker has been the punter of a generation. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.760 When you get all decade honors for the twenty tens, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.879 you know, people are gonna remember that is Johnny the 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.840 same guy he was when he was in his early twenties. No, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.240 I mean he's almost JJ Jansen's a well, not quite, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.160 but he's getting up there and he's not Johnny Hecker anymore. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.360 But we've seen this year. I mean he keeps stacking 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.400 up punts inside the twenty and I mean I can 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.119 think off the top of my head or two or 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.359 three immediately where he lays one down at the twobe 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:37.879 in San. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.160 Franco lemannic John Washington, Yeah. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.440 Yeah, you know there was one against the Chargers where 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.400 it's like Boom lays it on the one and he's 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.040 you know, he's still got that ability. Does he still 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.399 have the same physical leg strength he used to have? 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.080 Maybe not, But at the same time, he he's good 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.000 for the room because a he's still good at punting. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.000 He's also got an arm. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.800 I had to say. He also presents the threat. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.960 Yeah, he creates opportunities for the special teams. I mean, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.720 you have to honor his ability to pass. And that's 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.760 something you say about exactly one punter in the NFL, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.720 and it's John Hecker. So good for Johnny for getting 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.960 a little of the fifth alternates hunters people too. Yeah, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.880 I don't know. I don't know that there's any bonus 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.320 money or any even a plaque for fifth alternate. But 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.600