1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, I warned on a twenty in college I 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be at read and had his pictures up 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: all over the wall when I came to this thing, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: might have a got ray louisly be played on the team. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Are read? I want are read? Is he? Because my 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: first time I'm gonna see it like you go, like man, 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: this is what NFL is about. Welcome into the lounge. 8 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: I am Ryan Mink and I'm Garrett Downing and we 9 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a pre Christmas treat for 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: everyone today. Yes you do. We are happy to be 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: joined by safety Ladarius Webb. Thanks so much for joining us, Weddy, 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: thanks for having so first things off personal stuff here, 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: weve got some Christmas questions for you. Does a candy 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: cane count as a Christmas cookie? Nah? I don't think so. 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: You think so, I don't think so. No. We had 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: a cookie draft, Christmas cookie draft. Garrett picked the candy 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: canes with his last pick just awful. Well, the reason 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: is we we had predetermined what the eight cookies were 19 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: and we just put candy cane in there. So just 20 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: terrible pick. Yeah, but but we put it in there. 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: We agree that we were putting it in the cookie draft. 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: So it's not like I actually think it's a cookie. 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Just get it. Okay, I get it now, so I understand. Now, 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: what's your favorite Christmas cookie? Oh? Man, I don't know. 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: I have this favorite cookie. They only come comes out 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: on Christmas time. It's the oriole wrapped when the white icing. 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: That'd be a target mostly, but they only comes out 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: doing Christmas. So I go get like ten boxes and 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: then they're gonna my wife have to always go get 30 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: like two or three a week. They the best. That's 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: like the Girl Scout cookies. You know you gotta stock 32 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: up when they come out every year, get their thin 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: mints tossing in the freezer. Yes, all right, So what 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: are you asking Santa for for this Christmas? And you 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: can't say a winner of the Steelers. It's got to 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: be like a thing, a thing. There's not nothing I'm 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: really asking for. I always tell my wife, Um, I 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: want one expensive gift. Always ask your line. I just 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: want that one expensive gift, get me something. But I'm 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: just so blessed to have both of my kids this year. 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: You know, I got the kids that babies and I 42 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: get to spin. Well I don't get to spin Christmas 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: or the day after Christmas with him. So you know, 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: for for for us to just chill, the whole family 45 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: being together on a Christmas that's what I'm I'm just 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: happy to be a part of that, you know, get 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: to see them. How are your kids? Um, seventeen months 48 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: and five months? Oh dagn you do have some young 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: I got a older too, he stays in Alabama. But yes, 50 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: I have all age ranges. Alright. So you mentioned about 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: giving back a lot. What you do? I mean you 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: were in the community a lot around holidays, but all 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: year round. But I think my favorite event that you 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: host is your softball Challenge softball turn So who is 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: the best softball player that you've had over the years 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: and who is the worst? Worst? Worst? That was Michael 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: or when I have Mike here. I hate to call 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: my boy and Mike. You know, we got drafted together, 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: but I don't think Mike ever played softball before. The 60 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: best It has to be Joe Flack or Sam Cook. 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna say. I mean they can hit real good. 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Um let me see. Ryan Jensen is pretty good too, 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, used to be. It's a great event. Man defense. 64 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I think we only one once I'd like to sell 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: eight years I've been throwing it. It's just defensive players 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: just ain't I don't have no coordination with the pop 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: flies or something like athletes on the field, But when 68 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: we get on the diamond, it's like everybody just turned 69 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: uncoordinated it. But the offensive players that like, they turned up. 70 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Like even Jacobe Jones came out and he hit home 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: runs and I'm just like Jacobe just at home run. 72 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: I come to believe it, like it was crazy. It's 73 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: just so much better than us. I actually agree with 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: that because I'll go out there and I'm watching and 75 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, these guys are world class athletes. 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: But then like it's a routine pop fire, I'm like 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: they look awesometimes struggling like oh, just like please just 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: catch it, oh man. But it's it's a good time. Man. 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I like doing it because you know, the fans they 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: stick with us throughout, you know, the good the bad. 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, they come to the game, they support us. 82 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: So that's one time where we can really just go out, 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, take pictures with them, give autographs, you know, 84 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: let the kids come out and actually meet their favorite player. 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: So it's awesome, man, it's it's a great time. Yeah. 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: So you have some talking about multi sport athleticism here, 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: you have some in your family. I didn't know this 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: till today that your cousin is Miss Richmond, the first cousin. 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm not the first cause of the second couple, but 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: that's the only professional athlete I used to know growing up. 91 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: So he used to come home and just I wanted 92 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to be in his his footsteps. I really thought I 93 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: was going to the NBA um growing up out of 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: high school, until I had to take another step football, 95 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: which it worked out pretty fine. I used to think. 96 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I used to think I was Michael Jordan growing up. 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: I did. It's funny you say that, because when you 98 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: talk about the n b A, I feel like that's 99 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: when I've heard you get the most When I've heard 100 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: you get the most spirited in debates in the locker room, 101 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: it's generally about the NBA. You're always in the middle 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: of those. It's always about Kolbe and lebron Um. They 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: called me Lebron Hayter, which you are. I'm saying he 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: is the best basketball player in the NBA right now. 105 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: He is. I would say that, But when you compare 106 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: him to Kobe. I don't think he he don't have 107 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: that killer instinct. I would say there's only one mamba. 108 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: It's only one mamba. And I just said his jump 109 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: shot ain't that good, So I can I always say 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: something to get a Lebron fan rowed up where they're gonna, 111 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, say he's boring to watch. I went to 112 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: the game down to the Wizards, and he just, you know, 113 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: he had twenty eight points. I'm not saying he didn't 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: do anything, but it was like the most boring is 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: points I've ever seen. He just gets the points. But 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: when you watch Kyrie and you watch how he cross 117 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: over and he's kind of exciting to see John Wall 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: exciting Lebron, which I'm saying he is the best in 119 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: the NBA right now, but while watching him, he's just 120 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: like boring. Like it's because his game is so solid. 121 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: See I'm a Lebron, I'm a Homer. I'm gonna hire 122 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: because his game is so solid and he'll just go 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: down there and he'll get like twelve points in the 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: paint and then hit some of those midrange and then 125 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I'll hit like eight free throws and its shot. I 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: get it, there's something beyond it. Range. You know, you're 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: always going to miss one free throw. I mean every 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: time he goes, every time he goes on all of them, 129 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: he is gonna miss I'm always I bet he missed one. 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: So you get into it because he said the biggest 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Bron Bron guy. Everybody in there love Lebron, like everybody 132 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: after being powers. We was arguing about it last night 133 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: at the rookie dinner. There was everybody at the table 134 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: love Lebron. I'm just like, oh man, I can't believe this. 135 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: It's hard being at the table being like the Kobe fan. Well, 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: well it is a Lakers fan. Yeah, we're good, but 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: we do respect Lebron. Not saying that like he's not good. 138 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: But I just would rather the Warriors win in the calf. 139 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: So you yes, we'll be back there. I'll be killing 140 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: him in the back, will be playing horse around the world. 141 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Um me me, Well, when we played three point shootout, 142 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: is me and Weather on team you loose again? More 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: game and Sam can shoot two? It seems good at everything. 144 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Sam could do everything, seriously, actually shoot like that. People 145 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: come back now, Joe, come back, y'all come back around 146 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: this time. Tomorrow it'll be everybody all right, all right, 147 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: you'll catch us back there shoot and then we'll be 148 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: playing out well what they call it, you know, when 149 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you shoot knock knockout. Yeah, So he usually wins. Different 150 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: people wins. Man, it's pretty close. I win. I'm always 151 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna say I wanna wins sometimes, but everybody pull to win. 152 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Um for a lot of guys. But even Rannie be 153 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: top three sometimes he called himself top three because he 154 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: was always the last three playing, you know, so he 155 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: didn't win, but he was. He was landing. He was 156 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: the last three guys. But everybody got a little bit 157 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: of shot on him. No matter how it looks. It 158 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: might look like a bad shot, but somehow they'd be 159 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: dropping and you see shot, it looks horrible way somehow 160 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: I just be banking off the bat boys. That's my move. 161 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Right there has the ugliest shot I've ever seen in 162 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: my life. We don't cover him, we don't cover him 163 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: like three on three and just stand under the rim 164 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: and guard him over there, because if he's a it's 165 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: a three foot no shot. Here's what I got, Here's 166 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: what I got. I'm scrappy. I snagged the boards and 167 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: then I just go up there and it might take 168 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: me ten attempts to put it off the glass from 169 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: my foot away, but I get the rebounds. You know, 170 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: he says that, You know, he always says, I'm a 171 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: great rebounder. Guys who can't shoot you get a million 172 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: shots and offensive rebounds. They got to do it. They're 173 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: good at web. You asked Ryan if he can get 174 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: his shot up against me, and I'm sure he's kind 175 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: of It was like freaking Gumby god, it is tough sod. 176 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: You guys take it easy on the rookies. On the 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: rookie dinner, you kind of mentioned getting stuck to him. 178 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: We just took I don't know what happened with Ronnie. 179 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: We just took table and out at Maurice. It wasn't bad. 180 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: We took him to Charleston downtown. Um, they kind of 181 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: did something special for us, brought out, like you know, 182 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: about seven different courses, small things. It was. It was nice. 183 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: We had a good time, very cool. We didn't kill 184 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: him though. I didn't get killed when I was a rookie. 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: You know, I had every you know, Chris Carr, Fabian Washington, Foxworth. 186 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: They didn't do me bad. You know, so I don't 187 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: never want to do the rookie bad. But some other 188 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: guys got done bad, like well, when he was a rookie, 189 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: he was done horrible, you know. Powers they was done horrible. 190 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: So they kind of they didn't do it bad either, 191 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: but they could have they wanted to. That's the one 192 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: online today so much. There's always like some of that 193 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: tweets one how much was those fifteen grand or something? Worth? 194 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: Worse than that? Oh? My lord, draw Powell was down 195 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: worse than that too. That's rough. So when you grew 196 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: up in and my appounce is great, correct, Opelica open Laca, Alabama, 197 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: just outside of Auburn, right, it's right next to Auburn. 198 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: So you start out southern Mississippi, then go to Nickel State. 199 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: How the heck did you not end up at Auburn 200 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: with the kind of thing that you are. I mean, 201 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: I'm roll tied over here. Now that's funny, but I'm 202 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: all the way roll tied. But I was small, you know, 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: That's what my excuse gonna be. I was a hundred 204 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: and forty three pounds, you know, quarterback. I mean, I'm 205 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: made plays, I had interceptions, but I guess sec just wanted, 206 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, a bigger guy, you know. So I mean 207 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: they came and you know saw me, and you know, 208 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: watched me play, and I went to camps, but I 209 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: just didn't get offers from those those guys, right. Um, 210 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I was happy to go to Southern Mess, you know. 211 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: I was just happy to kind of get away from home, 212 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, just being able to get a scholarship. So 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I was actually in love with Southern miss when I went, 214 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: you say, a hundred forty pounds, a hundred and forty 215 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: three pounds. As a senior, I played I played college 216 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: at one sixty five all through college playing safety. Once 217 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: I was a senior, the NFL they thought that I 218 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: was still too small to play corner, so that's why 219 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I had the game like ten pounds, And then they 220 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: wanted to see if I was faster enough. So at 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: the combine, I waited at one seventy nine and end 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: up running the three six. So that's when it was like, Okay, 223 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: well he's big enough, he's fast enough hit to twenty 224 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: five like fifteen sixteen times, and it was like, okay, 225 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: maybe he's he's one. Maybe he's he put the work in. 226 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: So right, the rest is history. And I'm still about 227 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: that same way about this year. This year, I'm able 228 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: to keep on a little bit more weight because I 229 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: play safety, So about that's any difference, not really much. 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: But I can't be one eight eight one. I can't 231 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: get there. I don't care how much I eat. Huh, 232 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: I can like weiit if like Thanksgiving, the day after Thanksgiving, 233 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: I can eat. I could probably come in and weigh 234 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: like one eight one one day to night and next 235 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: day it'll drop. I just can't get big. Don't you 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: wish you had that problem? Down here? Exactly? People listening 237 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: to this be like, I wish I had that problem. 238 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I just can't gain weight. It's a way. One of 239 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: the things we like to do on this podcast as 240 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: we do story time and we share stories, and this 241 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: is a story. This is one of our favorites, and 242 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: so we gotta we gotta squash some beef between you 243 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: and Ryan here. This is the surprise. This is thanks 244 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: for reminding him that he had beef. Yeah, this is 245 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: one of our favorite stories. This is goes back a 246 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: couple of years now. Okay, So Raven, we're about to 247 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: get ready to play the Dallas Cowboys, right, and I'm 248 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: interviewing you along with some other reporters, and somebody asked 249 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: you about, like, what does is there still some kind 250 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: of mystique about playing America's team the Cowboys? Right? And 251 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: you say, well, you know, we don't pay attention to 252 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: any of that stuff, right, And somebody follows up and says, 253 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys are still America's team? And 254 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: you say not really, because like, if I'm judging America's team, 255 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: it's based on who's the best. So like I'm looking 256 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: at the Patriots, maybe the Packers they could be America's team, 257 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: not saying the Ravens are, but the Cowboys, you know, 258 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: this is when they weren't very good, you know. So then, 259 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: so you know, I was in there and I wrote 260 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the story that you didn't think that the Cowboys are 261 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: America's team, And I'm gonna guess that you probably got 262 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: some backlash for that one, Yeah, And so then the 263 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: next day you found out, You're like, somebody wrote this, 264 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: and you wanted to find out who wrote that story 265 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: because you were going to confront them. And I was 266 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: one of several people who wrote a lot of several 267 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: people who wrote it. But here's where the story gets good. 268 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I kind of feel bad 269 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: about that bad juju kind of bad luck. If I 270 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: believed him bad luck then you know. But anyway, so 271 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you here's the story. This is the best part of 272 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: the story. So you come to find the reporter who 273 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: wrote that story because you're kind of upset about it. 274 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: And you walk in locker room. You see this other 275 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: guy and you think that he's me, and you starting 276 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: and you start yelling at him and getting all mad, 277 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't know what you're talking about, man, 278 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. And you're like, knows you he wrote it. 279 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, right. I walk in like 280 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: five minutes later, and this reporter you're scared him. He's shaking, 281 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: he's strap shook. He probably whizz down his leg, he's 282 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: he's fans. I walk in. I'm like, what's up, guys 283 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: this And he's like, I don't know, man, I'm just 284 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: scaring it. Here's what I'm saying. I think he's looking 285 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: for you. I'm like, well, I ain't gonna sit in 286 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: the record. I ain't telling him. And Nick just walks 287 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: at long room. He's like, I'm not saying anything here. 288 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Before Webb comes back. I'm gone, I'm sorry. I'm so 289 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I was a young guy. Man, I was a young guy, 290 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: so was I. Yeah, so we got over there, all right. 291 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: You noticed I didn't ask you that question this year completely. Yeah, 292 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: but I actually, I mean I grew up a Dallas 293 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: gutboy fans like the Michael Irving and MS Mills trade. Man, 294 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: I like those guys. That's I just I don't know 295 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: how I was a Dallas coulboy fan. I guess because 296 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm from Alabama. We don't have a professional team, so 297 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: you have to choose between all rending Alabama. That's the 298 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: first thing. So that's your college team when once you 299 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: come out to your mama and you'll be like, hey, 300 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a roll tied or you gonna be 301 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: a roll tied all time. So then you start you 302 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: have to pick a NFL team, and we don't have it. 303 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Usually people pick like the same you know, the Falcons um, 304 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: but Cowboys were just I guess it took over the 305 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: side D and Sanders and stuff like. Yes, man, I 306 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: like some DN you know, because he can play dB, 307 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: he could play a little wide receiver, he can return, 308 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, just dynamic. That's what I liked about him. Yeah, 309 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: so kind of a big game coming up this Sunday. 310 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: I think we would all probably agree on that one. 311 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: You've been a part of this rivalry for a long time, 312 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: do you do you think? Do you look at this 313 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: and say this is gonna be another one of those 314 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: classic Raven Steelers games? Yes, um Man. As soon as 315 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: the game ended last against the Eagles and we got 316 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: the win and knowing now what this game is going 317 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: to be about, yes, I instantly thought this is gonna 318 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: be one of those classics. You know, it's gonna be 319 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: hard fault because I mean, just as bad as we 320 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: want this win and need this wins, it's the same 321 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: way for them. They wanted and they need it, and 322 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: they're at home and they haven't beat us in a while, 323 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be like it's gonna be it's gonna 324 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: be crazy. I mean, it's gonna be a physical game. Um. 325 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be too cold, but it's 326 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a battle between two good teams. And I'm ready. 327 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean I know that the team is getting ready, 328 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: and you know we'll be prepared, but we know what 329 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: this game means to both of us. Do you get 330 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: like a different feeling in your bones kind of when 331 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: you go to Hynes to play. Yes, I mean I 332 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: do get that that feeling. I get that feeling when 333 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: I go to Gillette to you know, Um, I kind 334 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: of hate them just as much as I hate because 335 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: I think I hate them more than the Steelers. I do. 336 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna say I think I do. I 337 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: hate the Patriots more than the Steelers. Um, But you know, 338 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I like playing those games, you know, I like playing 339 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: against you know, good opponents. You know. It's a challenge, 340 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, um to see what we had as a team, 341 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, and if we want to go win the 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, we have to go into places and win 343 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: games like this, right. We were actually talking about this 344 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: the other day and it's kind of what you were 345 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: just saying, is I feel like this game has the 346 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: potential to kind of elevate the raven Steelers rivalry again, 347 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: because like over the past years, Patriots have kind of, 348 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, they've risen and maybe basically, you know, based 349 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: on what you just said, you're not alone in that 350 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: that they are right there, if not ahead of the 351 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: Steelers and turn the biggest rival of the Ravens. But 352 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: I think a game like this at this point of 353 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: the season to bring it back. I feel like it'll 354 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: bring it back to her. Like when I first got 355 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: in the league, how it was when you had ray Lewis, Hines, Wars, 356 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, every and all those guys. It was I'm 357 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: not saying it was different, but it kind of went 358 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: down on the media made it go go down a 359 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, I'm playing in the daytime at 360 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: one o'clock. Ever played still this game in the middle 361 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: of the day. I just don't. I don't even know 362 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: how it see yellow, black and yellow in the daytime. 363 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: You gotta see it at nighttime under the lights. You know. 364 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: That's how that game is supposed to be played. And 365 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: it's been like that ever since. Like my first really 366 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: paying attention to it was like oh eight, when they 367 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: when the dude caught the ball, it was like playoff 368 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: wall cart. I don't know if it was the last game. 369 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it was, but with Joe Um but Paul Mollery 370 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: got him at the end. Yes, those type of games, 371 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: that's how you know. I feel like this one's gonna 372 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: be yeah like that. Yeah, definitely do you think that 373 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned the Patriots game. Do you think 374 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: the fact that this just popped into my head, the 375 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: fact that we lost the Patriots like another hated team, 376 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: only fuels the hatred for the desire to beat the Steeler. 377 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: It's like we lost this rival, man, and then it's 378 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: if it's for something, you know, Um, the Patriots game, 379 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: we wanted it, we needed it, you know. Uh kind 380 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: of got behind it early, but we still we fought 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: to the end. And that's type of you know, team 382 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: that we have. So I know, a lot of guys 383 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: is just just normal where we want to go. That's 384 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of is we know, we were trying to get 385 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, um, you know, but we want 386 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: the division, you know, and that's that's one of our goals. 387 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: One of the goals is win the division, you know, 388 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: then when the conference and then go to the super Bowl. 389 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: So this is it's still right in front of us. 390 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: You know. We don't play a lot of games, we 391 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: don't have some ups some downs, but our goals that 392 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: we said that we wrote down the beginning of the 393 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: season is still right here. With two games left in 394 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: the season and a lot of teams can't say that. So, um, 395 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: that's all you can ask for. You know, all the 396 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: work we put in doing O T s and training camp, 397 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, and working out in the all season. Just 398 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: it's awful, Like now, this is the type of game 399 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: that we that we put that work here for. So 400 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: we're ready, man, were ready for talking about the Steelers. 401 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Wallace came from the Steelers and he 402 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: came on the podcast earlier year. He told a funny 403 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: story about he and you and and how do you 404 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: guys had some beef from your Pittsburgh song? We had 405 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, So we want to hear your side 406 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: of the story on this. Man. I don't know. I 407 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: just hated Mike Wallace. Man, he catched the ball and 408 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: spend the ball about his little Steve's milk antics you know, Um, 409 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. Just like he explained that he just 410 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: had to pick up a guy to hate on this 411 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: team that ain't read him and tell me to do that. 412 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: But I didn't tell me, Hello, I just gotta pick 413 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: a guy out over there on the Steelers. You gotta 414 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: hate him, No, I mean, we hate all y'all thin 415 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: one guy. But they asked me the question, Um, they're 416 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: just asking the interview. I mean, it's like, you know, 417 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you got Mike Wallace and I cut him short, like 418 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: hold up, man, y'all, y'all always talking about Mike Wallace, 419 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: but you got Tonyo Brown over there. You know. I 420 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: think he's a better receiver. That's what I said. And 421 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: the only reason I said it because Tonyo did punk 422 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: return and kick returned, you know. So that's what made 423 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: me feel like he was a better athlete at the time, 424 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: taking nothing from what Mike had because I guarded him. 425 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: I know what he what he has, you know, I 426 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: know you run like a deer. So I'm just like, um, 427 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm not taking nothing from Mike. I didn't said. I 428 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: should have just said I'm not taking nothing from Mike 429 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Wallace and he the great receiver, which he was, you know, 430 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: had like my eight game when I'm got ready to playing. 431 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: But I gave an Tonio Brown some credit. Didn't know 432 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: that it would offend him, you know, but it did. 433 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: And boy, ever since then we already hated each other. 434 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: We hated Eat. It went up like ten times more. 435 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: He hated me. It was just like, who was the 436 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: dari As well? I don't even know ladari As well 437 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: that's what he said in the paper, and I'm just like, what, 438 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: you don't know me. You don't know me now, like okay, 439 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: So it was just it's lasted. Even when he went 440 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: to Miami, it's still lasted. But we kind of we 441 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: walked by each other, I think because we played Miami 442 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm just like, man, we were 443 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: still on that. You still on that? And he was 444 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: just like, no, man, you know, we were cool. Were 445 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: cool because we probably would have strapped if we would 446 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: have saw each other in the streets when we probably 447 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: would be like, hold up, what's up all that you 448 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: was talking about on that field. But we kind of 449 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: squashed it. But still it was still awkward, you know, 450 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: like when he first he no, like when he was 451 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: still in my hand, But once he came here, I 452 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: knew it had to be over. You know. Luckily I 453 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: I moved the safety at the time. I'll be going 454 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: against him every time. He's still going at it right now. 455 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: It's funny. I give you credit though, because you were 456 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of ahead of your time because you talked up 457 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. People knew about it. Now he's been one 458 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the league. I just no talent. 459 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: You know, you can a future as a GM. Seriously, 460 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: you need to just you know, train me a little bit. 461 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: You know. I just when I see certain things, you know, 462 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: certain talents, and that I just gave him credit. You know, 463 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: he's a good receiver. Um he works well with being Roethlisberger, 464 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: you know, being in him got this connection and you 465 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: can see it when they play each other, and you 466 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: can see it when Being it's not playing. You can 467 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: see how um it affects his game. So as long 468 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: as they're both playing, they're on their own point together, 469 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: they can read each other mind. So you gotta interfere 470 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: with that. So you bring up the Miami Dolphins, which 471 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: I want to factrack a little bit here. It's in 472 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: the Miami game. And that pick that you had that 473 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: was sick. Yes it was. Man. I've been chasing the 474 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: interception all year, just a little bit too much because 475 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, going to game, you just you playing, but 476 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: then you're thinking, I just need to be an interception, 477 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, and once you plan thinking about the interception, 478 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: they don't come. You know, you kind of you're losing 479 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: your focus because you just want an interception, you know. 480 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: But you know that was one of the games actually 481 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: was the last Steelers game, the first Stealers game we played. 482 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: I kind of just said, you know what, it's not 483 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: about no interceptions. You know, I'm not thinking about interceptions. 484 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not about me and my accomplishments. You know. Just 485 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: let me do my part of my job, you know, 486 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: and that help where I'll just started getting closer to 487 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: the ball. You know, I think I dropped one of 488 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: beings last that game. So once I just started just 489 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: playing and doing my job and not for he was 490 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: an all like my own selfish accomplishments. Then I started 491 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: playing better. So I always say that what's crazy is 492 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: how far you ranged on that play. And then the 493 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: holiday in colliding with DeVante Parker, he by the way, 494 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: is five inches and thirty pounds heavier than he might 495 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: be more than thirty pounds, I think, you know, shaving 496 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of yeah, exactly, So, so I kind 497 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: of was thinking, I was like, well, hey, do you 498 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: think that's the best play that you've ever made in 499 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: the NFL game? M I got some all the candidates 500 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: here too. I like that, But I'm always gonna say 501 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: it was the Jets Man when I'm jetting back, seventy 502 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: three yard pick six. All right, some other some other 503 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: ones here for you. Ninety five yard kickoff return as 504 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: a rookie. I still remember that your head running out. 505 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: I was smell was chasing me, but you got in there. Then. 506 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: I remember you remember this one two thou it against 507 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals. It was like a full extension Superman pick 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: oh sideline that's up on the wall. That one was 509 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: the best. That was a nice because I really didn't 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: see it. I'm just like, if it touches my hand, 511 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch, and I did. That was that one 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: was amazing. And another one that pops out to me 513 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: is the two thousand eleven playoffs up in New England. 514 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: When you're backpedaling and got that one on the throat, 515 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: I think, welcome. Yeah, it was trying to run a 516 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: double move on me. Oh yeah, it's always best to 517 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: get Tom Brady. I just want to see him mad 518 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: walking to the sideline. He started throwing his helmet and 519 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: acting up on the sideline. That's oh, that's the best 520 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: site of it. You guys got a little bit of that. Yeah, yeah, 521 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: we got it in the game. Once he threw the 522 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: ball deep to Jimmy, and I think Jimmy was was 523 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: on top and he came out. He started, customer. You 524 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: could tell he was cussing all them guys out of 525 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: it on the sideline. It's good to get him mad. 526 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh yes, When you guys see that, you're just like laughing, 527 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: like you I'm just like, hey, we in his head, 528 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, but we know he's gonna come back out 529 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: on a game, you know, like you got it mad. 530 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: Now he's coming. It's good to get him, get him 531 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: routed up. So you had three picks in two games 532 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs because you had two against the Houston 533 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: Texans also, and then you signed the extension, the contract 534 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: extension the following off season. Then, as you mentioned before, 535 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: the torn a c L again because I told my 536 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: first one exactly the rookie year, right. So the second one, 537 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: My question is how much do you think that has 538 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: that second torn a c L has impacted your career. 539 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: I think it. I think it's something good and bad. 540 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: You know, you know I missed the Super Bowl game. 541 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: You know that was something bad. But I say it 542 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: helped me. You know, it made me who I am. 543 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people try to say that. Um, 544 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, it slowed me down, you know, which it probably, 545 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a surgery, it has to slow me 546 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: down just a tad because I was I was really 547 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: really really fast when I first came not saying I'm 548 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: not really really fast now, but I was like real fast. 549 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: But I just think it helped me mentally, you know 550 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: how bad I really wanted it, you know, Um, the 551 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: work I had to put in to get back on 552 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: the field, you know, because it wasn't injuries just you know, 553 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: an ankle sprain or something where I could just sit 554 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: out every time I was getting injured. It was like 555 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: a season ending. So it kind of made me stronger mentally, um, 556 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: but also taught me, um, how to work, how to 557 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: put hard work in and you know, to get up 558 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: every day and come up here and put in some work. Um. Yeah, 559 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: they're mentally strong. And I had to really really really 560 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: want it, you know, and I did. I wanted it 561 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: so bad. I wanted to get back out there on 562 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: that feel so bad, you know. And the first one 563 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: I came back in like seven or eight months, and 564 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: then the second one I came back in like ten months, 565 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, And it's kind of It's kind of hard, 566 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, coming back on the A c L, you know, 567 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: under a year and then going out covering guys like 568 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, A J. Green, you know know, so it was 569 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a challenge. So once I did get back out there, 570 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't a hundred percent and I'm out 571 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: there going against those guys and you know, I'm just 572 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have that step, you know, or I didn't 573 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: have the game. I won't. And it was like I'm 574 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: hurt going back and I hurt. My feelings hurt, like 575 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, what's going on? Why can't I make these plays? Like, 576 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that I was coming off a c L, 577 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: but I wasn't using it as an excuse, but it 578 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: just made me work harder and harder the next week 579 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: in practice, you know, just trying to show my teammates, 580 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, like man, I I won't I'm trying to 581 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: get there. I'm gonna get back. I'm gonna get there, 582 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: you know. And it's just it kind of made me 583 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: to who I am now, you know, the way the 584 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: way I worked, the way and then I put film 585 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: study in and it helps with me being the veteran 586 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: now and when I have guys going through injuries, Um, 587 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, like Jimmy Smith going through something, you know, 588 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy, Um, just know, Lorenzo Chell Fort Fararell went through, 589 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: um the foot. But just whenever those guys are going 590 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: through injuries, you know, with my experiences, I'm able to 591 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: help them out, you know, knowing, letting them know what 592 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna go through, you know how it's gonna be 593 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: when they will come back, you know, the expectations. You know, 594 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people think they're gonna come back and 595 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: just be Adrian Peterson's five months off a cell and 596 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: do what he did. I don't know how he did it, 597 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: but just giving them, you know, realistic expectations and and 598 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: that's what I think it helped me and and I'm 599 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: able to help them guys out just on just on 600 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: a lot of different I'm curious how you view the 601 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl because I remember talking to you before and 602 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. Obviously, you play a part 603 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: of that team, and you win a Super Bowl, you 604 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: got the ring. But then at the same time, like 605 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you view that as a as 606 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: a tough thing to watch, you know, I view it 607 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: as Okay, I was. I'm part of this organization. You know, 608 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm came here to the second year after Harps. So 609 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: it's something that we kind of built, you know, Um, 610 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: this team just as a group, we built it to 611 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: get to that two thousand and twelve teams. So I'm 612 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: a part of it in that way, you know, just 613 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: having all those guys here. We started from the bottom 614 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: and then we worked our way up. You know. But 615 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: it hurts to not being able to, you know, play 616 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: in that game. You know. But you know, as I 617 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: wanted us to win, I would not like I hope 618 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: they lose because I'm not playing. No, I wanted us 619 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: to win, you know, just for my team, for this organization. 620 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I really wanted to win. But now with me not playing, 621 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: that's what motivates me to get up every day because 622 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: I want to play in this game. You know, we 623 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: got guys you know, like well, um, a lot of 624 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: more guys that haven't played in the super Bowl that 625 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm still fighting to play a super Bowl. You know 626 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot of guys go through their whole career and 627 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and not playing a super Bowl. I'm fighting to get 628 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: there because I want a super Bowl before I retire. 629 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's not really motivated about no 630 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: money or anything. I mean, I got some money, so 631 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: now it's about winning a ring, you know, and you 632 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: gotta ring, you gotta do. You know it's nice to 633 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: put on. Yes, I gotta ring, but I didn't play. 634 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: So I want to be able to play in that game, 635 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, win or lose. I mean I would like 636 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: to be on that field in a super Bowl atmosphere. Yeah, 637 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: I better ed had some things to say to you 638 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, he gets the super Bowl his 639 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: final I mean, well not technically finally your but close 640 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: to it. What conversations did you have with him about 641 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: that and what kind of lessons did he impart on? 642 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Ye man, it's just a fighter. You know. One thing 643 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: I learned from him and Ray is just you know 644 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: the work they put in to film study, you know, 645 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: the work they put it put in on and off 646 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the field. You know that what made him great. You 647 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: know a lot of people never I thought that, oh 648 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: he was just an athlete, or he just he's just 649 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: the greatest, because he's just naturally just the greatest. He's 650 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: just out there making plays because he's guessing or something 651 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: they do to understand how much work that those two 652 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: guys put in to make the place that they're making. 653 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, along with Terrell sucks, you know, the work. 654 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: You know, Toorel plays a lot. You know, he's one 655 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: of the funniest guys. You know, we we love having around, 656 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: but they don't understand how much work he put in 657 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: to make those sacks on Sunday. You know, he's actually 658 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: studying hours and hours and a night, you know, to 659 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: be able to make those plays. He's not just making 660 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: those plays just because he's quick or he's just stronger 661 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: than the guy in front of him. No, he's coming 662 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: up with a plan during the week, you know, by 663 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: him studying and he's able to That's how he's making 664 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: that plays. He's great in the film study, and that's 665 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: how it ray is. They was so great at film 666 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: study and studying the opponent. So when they came on 667 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: the field, that's why they was great. It wasn't just 668 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: because they were just they're just naturally great. Because they 669 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: just put them out on the field and they just, oh, 670 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: we're just great. The balls is gonna come to me anyway, No, 671 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm coming to him because that's the work that they 672 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: put in during the week and it just showed up 673 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday. One of the things we loved about Ed 674 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: is you never knew exactly what you were going to get. 675 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it would be he'd be cheery, he'd 676 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: be happy to talk to you. Other times it would be, 677 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, hood up, he wouldn't. He's like philosophical, like 678 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: you never knew. Again, what's the craziest thing you ever 679 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: got from that? Everything ever he ever said to you, 680 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: or a story, no, merely no story. It's just like that, 681 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: just like y'all are like y'all saying he is. You know, 682 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: some days he's playful, you know, he all intulate, and 683 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: some days he just hoodie on and just just what up? 684 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: You know, And I just whatever moved you in, I'll 685 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: leave you in that mood. You never know what a 686 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: person going through. So hey, if he's not in a 687 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: talking of mood. You know my favorite, well not favorite, 688 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: but when I first got here, you know, I warned 689 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: him a twenty in college, I wanted to be ever read, 690 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: had his pictures up all over the wall. I get 691 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: drops to this team ray Lewis, I I did not 692 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: care to meet ray Lewis. I when I came to 693 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: this team. I ever got ray Lewis even played on 694 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: this team. Was read I read when is he get 695 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: in a meeting and U He's like, it's the first meeting. 696 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: He's like Harps, Harps. Like he's like sitting down like this, 697 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: like leaning back in his chair in the front and 698 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: the Harps like uh saying talking and he's like, yeah, 699 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: sit up. It was like he set up you know, 700 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: he set up that. You know, cars went b talking. 701 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you need to sit up or 702 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: you can leave it. Got up and just walked out too. 703 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: I was like he just like, this is my first 704 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: time getting sid Like he gone like, man, this is 705 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: what the n fail is about. He didn't up, he said. 706 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: I guess he did said up enough. He didn't sit 707 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: up enough. And then that was around Harps his first year. 708 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, he just he didn't just butt head when 709 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Hards first got him. Man, oh he was the whoom man. 710 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: He was tough on us, you know, like you know, 711 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: and I can't I can't. I don't know if I 712 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: can blame it on because he had we had them 713 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: with veterans here, you know. Um, the whole defense was 714 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: kind of veterans. So he had to like get this 715 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: strip to be strong. This is my team, you know, 716 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: a new coach. I don't care if y'all older guys, 717 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: this is my team, you know. To kind of because 718 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: he had to be We had Jared Johnson, we had 719 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: them all, you know, so he had to kind of 720 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: be like that. I guess now he's not like that 721 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: no more. Like throughout my eight years, he was just 722 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: like tough, way tough, tough, tough that he's going down 723 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: now where I could just say when he first got here, 724 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: he wasn't a players coach. I'm gonna tell you. He 725 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: was not tell you, but now he is that guy. 726 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna ask this, but I'm curious. How would 727 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: it be received if he were to go the other way? 728 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: If you were to go back and say, you know what, whatever, 729 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: if it was I thought he I thought he would 730 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: go the other way, how would it be received. I mean, 731 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: you got to receive how you can get it, man, 732 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, but right, but now I'm me, I think 733 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: he just got the experience. You know, he got some more. 734 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: He got veterans on our teams. Us we were growing 735 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: up a little bit, you know. Me Jimmy, you know Albert, 736 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: you got Joe Yonder, his guys. You know Sam, we're 737 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: growing up now, so he can with him. Yeah, I 738 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: grow up with him. You know, he got doomed. So 739 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: now he don't him't figure that he has to be 740 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: so so so hard. He just know how to get 741 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, his message across now without being so tough. 742 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: Now he can get that same Usually he'll get that 743 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: message out but be real tough with it. But now 744 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: he can get that same message out with the same effect, 745 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: but just not as horrible as he used to be. 746 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: I love him, man, I love him to death. Man, 747 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: like my coach, man, I don't know nothing else but Harps. 748 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: I understand him, you know what I mean. He wants 749 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: to win. He loves winning, and you know he understands 750 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: what it takes to win, you know, Um, just the 751 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: way we work owning off the field. Um, he's a professional, 752 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, and I could actually a better coach, you know, 753 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: but just he's he's learning players now, you know, he 754 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: understanding you know what it takes and you know, um, 755 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: and he listens. Now, you know that's the reason I 756 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: want to say that. You know that he's becoming that 757 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: players coach where you just you just love him, you 758 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And he's the guy you want 759 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: to win for him, you know, like I go out 760 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: and put it on the life of this guy because 761 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: he's that type of that type of guy, you know, 762 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: And that's just how it is, you know, especially like 763 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: just speaking of all defensive room, you know, for for 764 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: Dan Ps and you know Wink and Fraser and Chris, 765 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: the type of coaches that they are, you know, the 766 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: passion and the work that they put in, um, you 767 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: know during the week, you know, you just want to 768 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: go out and lay it all on life of those guys. 769 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: You know, just speaking of defense, the defensive guys, you know, 770 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: it's just we're family in there. You know. I'm not 771 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: in the offensive room, so I can't really speak on him, 772 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: but as a defense, you know, we're just so we're 773 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: just so close with all the coaches and the players. 774 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how we try to play. Like 775 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: we got each other's back, you know, and the coaches 776 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: they have all back. So is this the best defense 777 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: you've played on here? And MICHAELA said, I was supposed 778 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, right, was filthy? It was? I mean, 779 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 1: you're playing with guys like Ray and what was another 780 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: d N We had Jared Johnson. Johnson was on the team. 781 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: Read on that team to man, Yeah that was sure. 782 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah that was a good team. But that was that 783 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: was that was nice. But I just this team, man, 784 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: We're fast, we were fast, We're moving like you know, 785 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: not older guys were kind still young. But I just 786 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: like that match up with me and Weddo in the 787 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: back end. You know. That's why. I mean, you had 788 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: ed you know, you had d Juan Landry. You know, 789 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: that was a good match They always had good matchup, 790 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: you know. But North Pollard the hitter, and it was 791 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, he was a hitter, but he was more 792 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: to the finesse guy. But now you got me and 793 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Weddo is just you got finesse and we can tackle, 794 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: you know. So then we had Jimmy and the way 795 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: Tayvones came up and playing as a starter. I just 796 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: like that back in I just just weird. I like it. 797 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I like it all it because 798 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: it's just me and Weddo, but I like it, you know. 799 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: And then the way Zach Ore and c J and 800 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: Abert McClellan man the way they play you know the 801 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: way they fly around. You know, I'm not saying that. 802 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, Ray, they didn't do it. You know, they 803 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: did it. Um, you know he had Jamie mcclaim beside him. 804 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: They did it. But it man, when you watch Zach 805 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: Orr and you watch c J play, you know, they 806 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: just flying around and then they're having a good time. 807 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: You're having a good time at safety, having a lot 808 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: of fun. I really am. And it's it's solo because 809 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: these boys they help out, you know, like Zack Man, 810 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: they flying around and it's a it's a fun defense 811 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: because I'm a veteran now and I got my young 812 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: boys out there, and you know, it's more of a leader. 813 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the back end, so I 814 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: get to communicate more. Um and maybe we just get 815 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: a young d line that's out there busting bussing heads, 816 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. And real So still playing the way he's 817 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: playing at an older age, you know, and he's teaching 818 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: the young boys Judo on and and the Darius you know, 819 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: how to how to play like we play, you know, 820 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: and they're they're catching it on. Um. You know Brandon 821 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: still y'all. You know, Pierce, he's he's bringing him along 822 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: So man, I my favorite That's my favorite team because 823 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more in control of it. You know, 824 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: whenever I was in two eleven, I was just being controlled, 825 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, not being controlled. But you know, I was 826 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: the young guy, and you know it was all about, 827 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, the defense. But Ray and It and Sizel 828 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: it was their defense, you know. And I loved I was. 829 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: I loved to be a part of that. Now it 830 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: was awesome. But now it's like, okay, not just a 831 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: young guy. Now I'm part of it. This is my defense, 832 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm gonna choose this one. 833 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: I canna ask you this tapeon remind you of yourself 834 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: at all? Because he throws his body around like you 835 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: do too, being a smaller frame guy. But you ain't 836 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 1: afraid to stick it in there, you know. That's why 837 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: that's the question I always get. And I don't know 838 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: if they like just read my mind, but I always 839 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: said this a little boy, this little guy reminds me 840 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: of myself. Like ever since we started and O t 841 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: s before we've been put on any paths. Before I 842 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: even knew that he would like stick his body in 843 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: and hit somebody, I said, he reminds me of myself. 844 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He don't see himself that small like as me. 845 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: People say, man, you're small, but I can't tell. I 846 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: look at myself. I don't see myself being that small 847 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: until I get up next to like somebody else, like Jimmy, 848 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: and I'm like Jimmy, just just tall small. So I'm 849 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: just I can't tell that I'm small. So when I 850 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: go tackle people, I'm not really seeing no little guy 851 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: going into the tackle. I'm just going in to make 852 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: a tackle because I feel like I'm just as big. 853 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: But when you look at pictures, I'm smaller than everybody. 854 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: You feel like you're gonna be the Steelers this weekend. 855 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: Oh yes, always, always, Hell yeah, I they we could 856 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: beat anybody. Um, but it's gonna be a tough game, 857 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: you know. Like I said, you know they wanted just 858 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: as bad as we do. Um. They know how important 859 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: it is, just like we know how import and so 860 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a battle, you know, but yes, we 861 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: do believe. Well, I appreciate the time. Thank you so 862 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Man really really enjoyed it. Well, 863 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: thank you. Well, that was pretty awesome. That was a 864 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: really fun interview with Literaria's Web. Yeah, I mean he 865 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: opened up. He gave us a lot of time, really, 866 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate that. And just great stories. I 867 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: mean that every story is one we're gonna be telling 868 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: around here for a long time for sure. So thank 869 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: you for listening once again. You can email us at 870 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net, comments, questions, 871 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: whatever you have, send us to his audio clips you 872 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: haven't got one of these a little while, give us 873 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: a rating, interview on iTunes or wherever you find this podcast, 874 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: and share it with your friends. So we'll be back 875 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: after this. This pretty big game. This is a big 876 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: game stealers a big, big win.