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Speaker 1: In case you missed it, for King and Country stop by.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm bringing this back up is because

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Speaker 1: by them. They came by right off their trip to

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Speaker 1: the Grammys. But what's happening here is they have a

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Speaker 1: movie coming out about their life, but I guess mostly

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Speaker 1: about their parents' life. Yeah you saw it? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: not only that, Joel plays his dad. He does Okay,

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Speaker 1: got it? So Joel's playing his dad. Does he look

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Speaker 1: like his dad? Yeah? I mean yeah, he looks like him.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's a good looking guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: They're both like athletic and good looking, and it's annoying.

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Speaker 1: They're also great. But I saw Joel and placed it.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I go on the weekends for like

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Speaker 1: like full stop. And he was like Bobby. I was like, ah, yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah he does look like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So how'd you go to the movie. I got

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like you learned anything about them? Was

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: What was the deal?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Like, this isn't a movie I typically sit down

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna ask you if it was good or not,

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Speaker 2: No, the same thing I'm going into it. It's a

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Speaker 2: faith based film, and sometimes they're a little bit overly cheesy,

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Speaker 3: Here's how they had their rise.

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Speaker 2: But this one was so good about just telling their

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Speaker 2: Country isn't even at the forefront of it, Like them

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, we're gonna tell a story of

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Speaker 1: This is the prequel of Freaking and Country's life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just see them as kids, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't even like make references like, oh, they're going

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Speaker 1: Freaking your country. By the way, if you're not familiar,

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Speaker 1: you can listen to this. But they're so good. I

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Speaker 1: But they're so good. The movie is called Unsung Hero,

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Speaker 2: I think there's like a part of the movie where

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Speaker 1: For King of Country has won five Grammy Awards. Yeah, dang,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you can learn regardless. I

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Speaker 1: it is. That's the movie. Here's for King and Country

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Speaker 3: Man from LA to nash Vegas.

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say this, but I was just with

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Speaker 1: So let's we're gonna approach this a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 1: And so then there's this guilt, but then there's this

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Speaker 3: And that is why we have podcasts. Everyone.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm being serious. This is the only forum left.

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Speaker 3: I think that you can actually digest some of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well cool, I'll just keep so to the listeners, this

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Speaker 3: But Nashville has been great for us because we often say,

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Speaker 1: It's away from all that. I was proud to see

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Speaker 1: So there's your mom and your dad, there's you two.

436
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 1: Who's older of you two? What do you think?

437
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's looking deep into the well.

438
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 1: You've grown taller. Yeah, maybe it would take more time

439
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 1: to do that.

440
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 5: However, I really thinking about this, but who would be older?

441
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 1: Though?

442
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: You have to at least take a guess. It's it's okay, now,

443
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 3: I know you have a fifty chance of being right.

444
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 1: I know, but probably probably Joel, are you older?

445
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,120
Speaker 3: I am? No one ever gets.

446
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: People do the same thing as it's not. It's a

447
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 1: it's a leader thing. Sometimes you grab the role of

448
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 1: I am gonna I'm just the big.

449
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 5: It's actually funny speaking of that. I think that's actually

450
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 5: helped us in music is because I've knownly I've said

451
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 5: this to Joel Fia that I will knowingly give you

452
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 5: the answer to the first question, the first moment in

453
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 5: the room every time, because I younger brother.

454
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 1: So that's how it always was. It's always been that way. Okay,

455
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: But where do you guys rank in the all the siblings.

456
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm the deprived middle child.

457
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: It explains a lot. And are you the youngest of all?

458
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 5: No, I'm the third youngest thing. I got a little

459
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 5: brother and a little sister.

460
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So in little house there is you two,

461
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: your two parents, there's two other six. There's six other

462
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: kids or five other kids, so seven total.

463
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 3: That's why five boys, two girls, two parents.

464
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: Flow in your mind all across the world. You get

465
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: to flu all the way across the world together. Ye,

466
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: So he gets here and loses his job. So then

467
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: what I don't know? Then?

468
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 3: What we well, like I said, we we were like

469
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 3: literally raking leaves. We found some lawn equipment of the house.

470
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 3: We were raking leaves one day and someone came by

471
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: and said, hey, would you help now, because we moved

472
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 3: in the fall or the awesomnest we'd call it. And

473
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: so we started doing jobs for folks. Not long after,

474
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: it was Thanksgiving and and and so we'd been going

475
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: to a local church and they'd sort of we really

476
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: stuck out like a sore thumb, you.

477
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: Know, because you're actually.

478
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: Because accents, there's there's seven kids all under the edge

479
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: of fourteen. You know, we weren't dressed and we were

480
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: going to a Baptist church. So everyone in that era,

481
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: like the Baptist church was you know, the suits and

482
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: the holding, and we just we had no clothes. So

483
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: we just sort of rag tag, like two parents and

484
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: seven little ducklings into the church. And the church really

485
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: was kind of school class in the church really rallied

486
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 3: around us and and.

487
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: Us away, and we.

488
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: Prayed for for everything. We prayed for food, We prayed

489
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: for our bills to be covered.

490
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: Was that a big because for me it was if

491
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't for my youth director in church, and it

492
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: wasn't for different different seasons of my life in church.

493
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: But we'ven't had food Christmas presents, you know, exactly same

494
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: and so and I don't want it. I'm asking that

495
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: question by going, that's my story and so for your story,

496
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: please share it too. But I mean I remember once

497
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: the only gift I got was one of those color

498
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: By paint sets and it was from these and the

499
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: church brought me wanted. I'm just happy to have a gift.

500
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so the first Christmas we were here

501
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: because we loved Santa growing up. I mean, we were

502
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 3: homeschool as well, so I probably believed in Santa for

503
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: about five years too many.

504
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: He was like fifteen.

505
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: But and I remember mum coming because.

506
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 5: A dangerous conversation in Australia podcast Yeah Block Gil Children's.

507
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah we can do that, where she said, you know,

508
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: because in Australia were the big thing about Santa, and

509
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Sandra was awesome in Australia and we came over here.

510
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, guys, Santa's only able to bring

511
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: you things from the dollar shop this year. And I

512
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 3: was like, what are you talking about, Like, Sander's not

513
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: impacted by our financial situation. He's coming and she was like, well,

514
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: he might not know where we live. We're like, how

515
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: did she? Of course he knows. It's Santa like and

516
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: underknown to us. A first grade school class found out

517
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: that we won't be able to give each other gifts

518
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: and they sponsored our Christmas with Santa, and we had

519
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: more gifts that year. It was just such an iron

520
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: ironic moment. Barely anything in our house. We had the

521
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: most gifts we'd ever gotten, and just more gifts than ever.

522
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys feel shame? Man?

523
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if I you know what, that's probably

524
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 5: a better question for my parents, because I'm sure they did.

525
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure my dad did. Actually it's still I think

526
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: a wound.

527
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did for us.

528
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: Man, my parents did a pretty good job of like

529
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 5: teaching us like, man, it doesn't really matter what what

530
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 5: everybody else thinks. And we were odd because obviously we

531
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 5: you know, my accent has been very compromised now, but

532
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 5: very Australian we were. There was a bunch of us,

533
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 5: we were young, and so you had all these the

534
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 5: grannies coming up.

535
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh they're so cute and all, you know, So you know,

536
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: we were used to sticking out. And but I don't

537
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: think I ever felt any shame.

538
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 5: And part of it was it's funny because we still

539
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: work together with family, real, real close, and I think

540
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 5: that if we hadn't have moved, our family friendships would

541
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: be much more, to use a word that we've used before, fractured.

542
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Right. But because you come to a new place, you speak,

543
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, even.

544
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: Though culturally and together, even though culturally Australia and America

545
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 5: are fairly similar, it's still totally different, if that makes sense.

546
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 5: And so you're experiencing things that make you feel a

547
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 5: little unsafe. So who do you turn to you turn

548
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 5: to your older brother, you turn to your younger brother,

549
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 5: you're talking to you, You're leaning on your older siblings.

550
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: And I think because of that, family has become such

551
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 5: a strong nuculus for us that otherwise I don't think

552
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense in the Western world, but

553
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 5: for us, that's all we had. And so what happened

554
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 5: was is you grew up with it, and so now yeah,

555
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 5: we still work really really closely.

556
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: So the end of the stories, our sister started traveling

557
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: and she older, yes, oldest okay, and so managed her.

558
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: And so is that kind of his path? Then did

559
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: he did he go? And did you know she had talent?

560
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was in like the rock band at school

561
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: in Australia.

562
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: She'd done some demos and things in Australia, and so

563
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 5: there was she'd opened.

564
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: For which by your sister is Rebecca Saint James.

565
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: And so in Australia she kind of already had.

566
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: I mean, man, she was six, she was fifteen, sixteen.

567
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: She was fourteen when we came.

568
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen, I think when she signed sixteen, when she

569
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: released her first album. He he took around every label.

570
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: No one want to have anything to do with her.

571
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: It took her to Four Front Records with editor Gamo

572
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: and Dan Brock and Greg Ham, and they said we'll

573
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: sign her because ironically they thought she could be the

574
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: next Amy Grant, which Amy Grant was the reason we

575
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: were here in the first place, because he lost all

576
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: the money on the emmigrant to her. So it was

577
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: sort of this bizarre full circle moment. And then we

578
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: all traveled together. So we jumped in like a four

579
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: to fifteen passenger van.

580
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: So you went with your dad and sister kind of roadies,

581
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: almost because.

582
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: Dad needed cheap labor. He looked around and Story had

583
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: five sons, and we all became their own.

584
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: First Our first jobs were I was a spotlight operator,

585
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 5: I think at nine crazy Stories, child label laws broken

586
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: be broken. I mean, Joel was a stage manager at like,

587
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: you know, twelve thirty. I became a lighting director at

588
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 5: like fourteen fifteen. I mean, just crazy things. I mean

589
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: I remember going.

590
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: Up to these festivals and it was good that I

591
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: was speaking of being tall.

592
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: I would go up to these festivals and I have

593
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: these Union guys and Eveion guys are tough cookies, right,

594
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: and they would look at me and they thought, maybe

595
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 5: he's sixteen you know, maybe it's legal, you know, because

596
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: he's that tall, and I was like this young guy,

597
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 5: and she would be performing in front of thousands of

598
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 5: people as a Grammy Award winner and.

599
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: I was the lighting guy. I mean, none of it

600
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: made sense. But you know here we.

601
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: Were hang tight. The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

602
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

603
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: Did she have an un I don't know if unfair

604
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: is the word. Did she have a pressure on her

605
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: though as a fifteen six year old, because now here

606
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: she is she's huh, what do you think? I mean

607
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: a thousand percent yah as a kid, and it's all

608
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: on her now. I don't know where. I've never met

609
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: your sister before, but I just think about that. I mean,

610
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: she he is now the sun in that she's she's

611
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: with dad. I just wonder what she what she felt

612
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: like then, if she was able to be a kid

613
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: at all, or.

614
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say not much, you know. And now Beck

615
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 5: was always mature, well beyond her years. She was always

616
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: a third mom, that's right, But you I mean maybe

617
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: it's just maybe as for me, as I'm getting older

618
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 5: and I've got young kids, you start to realize that

619
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: there's pros and constant absolutely everything in life.

620
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: And she was always super mature.

621
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: But if you if you kind of skip a few

622
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: steps in life, there's gonna be some ramifications to that, right,

623
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: and Beck's done amazing. But I think that she would

624
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 5: come on, if she was able to come here, she'd

625
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 5: probably say, yeah, there was a difficult There were some

626
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: difficult days because you don't get to live out childhood

627
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: in some cases, you don't get to make some some

628
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: mistakes without even.

629
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: The teenagehood and young adulthood.

630
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that just it all rests on her, or

631
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: did for a while a long time. So you guys

632
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: are traveling around and then is everybody doing music in

633
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: your family at some point? Though in some way obviously

634
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: you're working making sure that the bit, But does everybody

635
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: know something?

636
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: Kind of?

637
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? So like not like our youngest brother is our

638
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: general manager? Kid?

639
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Though does the does your mom and dad say everybody

640
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: you have to learn how to play?

641
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: We were not down, We were not.

642
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: All in down with musical really.

643
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: Okay, don't get Josh in here to sing, it'll be upset.

644
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: But could he play if he needed none? Okay?

645
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: So he's the business guy?

646
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Was that always his thing. Even as a kid, he

647
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: was the merchandise.

648
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: He was the merchandise kid. What's been cool is like

649
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: mom really felt a promise when because she was terrified.

650
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: Mom our mom, who's a hero. She had just had

651
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: three brothers, all in the education system in Australia. They're

652
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: all like principles, and she pulled our kids out of

653
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: school and then homeschool all of them.

654
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: Which and you're also talking around you know, twenty something

655
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: years ago where.

656
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: Home homes going is not cooling. I mean it's still

657
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: maybe not cool, but everyone homeschool during COVID, so it

658
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: became much more publicly accessible, you know. But but so

659
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: she takes not only out of school, takes them on

660
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: the road and she's terrified, like they're not getting a

661
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: proper education. She really sends to God say don't worry

662
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: else teaching what they need to know. And what's crazy

663
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: is you fast forward, you go down the list. We're

664
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: all still working in the roles that we learned. Like

665
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: so our brother is an awfully successful lighting designer and director.

666
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: He just you know does like the chick fil a

667
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: Summits and all the rest of our brother. Ben's a filmmaker,

668
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: we're in the band together, you know, Josh is a

669
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: general manager, Libby's an artist, our younger sister in a Questrian,

670
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: our older sister Rebecca, so that we're all still doing

671
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: the same thing.

672
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: It sounds to me like your mom's kind of the

673
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: unsung because as we talk about everybody's stories here, your

674
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: dad and him, but it sounds like your mom was

675
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: just such a fundamental at times unheralded.

676
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: Like pillar, I love what you're going to say. You're

677
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: gonna say, unsung hero.

678
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I was, I don't know where. Yeah, are your parent

679
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Are they still alive? By the way, Yeah, mom and dad? Okay,

680
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: your mom sounds strong. Yeah, I mean that that's regardless

681
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: that she just sounds strong. Here's the thing.

682
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because, and I would say this

683
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: with my dad in the room.

684
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: My dad was the he's the full runner.

685
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: You know, he's the he's the entrepreneur, he's he's he's

686
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 5: you know, a big personality. But he's nothing without my mom.

687
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 5: And I think for us, you know, even someone asked

688
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: me the other day a little bit like, hey, how

689
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: was it raised being raised in your family?

690
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, it's interesting. No parents

691
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: are ever perfect.

692
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: We all know that.

693
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that.

694
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: But my mom handled the big moments perfectly. There was

695
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 5: never a big moment for me where it was like,

696
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: cause I got I told my acl in high school

697
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: and I had, you know, some issue even being doing

698
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: the job out on the road. I struggled with it

699
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know at times, and was mom

700
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: handled those moments, those ones where you come and you're like,

701
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 5: I've got a little bit of a crisis going here,

702
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: those conversations, the moments that transpired after that, she nailed

703
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: it. It was like she knew the right things to say

704
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: when I needed the right things to hear them, to

705
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: absorb them, to grow from them.

706
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: She told them to me.

707
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: It's just as we were telling these stories, I just

708
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: felt hints of your mom at all times that work pillar.

709
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: That's that again. I don't know her could be wrong,

710
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: but I felt like that that was the case. And

711
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: when you talk about her being her family, being in

712
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: the school system and she's like, I feel like this

713
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: is the right thing to do. Didn't sound like the

714
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: most popular thing that she could have done, the most

715
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: conventional thing that she could have done.

716
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: She had her mom calling Nana just like, well, then, please,

717
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: why didn't she come home? This is awful? What is

718
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: your husband doing this.

719
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: To your children? You know that stuff?

720
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's crazy, Bobby you here's a

721
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: pair of them. Yeah, it's uh, we literally just came

722
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 3: from this is a true story. We just we've been

723
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: working for about two two and a half years on

724
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: telling our mum and Dad's my creation story, the literally

725
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: from mum's perspective, because she is sort of our unsung hero.

726
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean, been telling it? Working on telling it?

727
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: We've been working on a film, got it? So we've

728
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: been working on a on an independent six million dollar

729
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: feature film. And we just literally hopped in the car

730
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: and came from watching the first thirty minutes of it.

731
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: So, well, isn't that kind of wild how we got there?

732
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Because we didn't I have all these notes. I've been

733
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: looked at a single note on you guys, because we

734
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: just started talking and we were here.

735
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: I haven't really talked. I haven't really even announced the

736
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: film that much yet because it doesn't come out till

737
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: later in the year.

738
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Well, what an organic way to even bring it up.

739
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: They don't even announce it now.

740
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: Well, what's funny? Is you Actually you were using the

741
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: word unsung hero. That's what you want?

742
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: That is what literally I was about to say that,

743
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: and I thought I'm not going to say I want.

744
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: It didn't matter, but I did almost standsung hero. That's right. Yeah,

745
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: that's funny. Well look she is. That's awesome. I can't

746
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: wait to hear more about it when you guys are

747
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: ready to talk about it. Just back to the Los Angele.

748
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: When did you guys get back? I got back yesterday evening, yeah,

749
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: last night. And you're like, you're good, you have energy,

750
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: not tired.

751
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: I mean, like, what are you doing when I've done

752
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: We've done worse, if that makes sense.

753
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little bit of weariness. I get

754
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: slightly depressed. I got a bit depressed from well, it

755
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: was a bigger week for me because so we flew

756
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: out we did this Chick fil A summer in San

757
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: Diego the beginning of the week, and then I went

758
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: into a bunch of like and had some great meetings

759
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: and whatnot about the film and just different entities and people,

760
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: and then went straight out of that into the the

761
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: Grammy thing and then straight at that to home. And

762
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: my wife's been away three weeks too. She's in Spain

763
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: working on a project, and so I just don't feel

764
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: speaking of grounding. I just I just got home last

765
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: night and I was like, just need to check in

766
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: with myself for a moment. There's something too about like

767
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Hillary Scott, who you love. We love like she's just

768
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: a joy.

769
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I guess a human being. Yeah obviously, lady, yes, but

770
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: like Hillary has a humor thing just amazing, awesome.

771
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: She's an incredible vocalist, but she's an even better person.

772
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: And I felt it.

773
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: We just I just felt attle bit of sadness, like

774
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: she featured on this song with us and flown her

775
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: out there and had this moment and it was still beautiful,

776
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: but I just had this You sort of feel like

777
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: a bit of a parent in that.

778
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you owed it to her to win.

779
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. I don't think you subconsciously

780
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: are saying that.

781
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, yeah, it's just you know, don't you believed

782
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: in us absolutely?

783
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: But let me just flip it around a little bit.

784
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: I'll just be Hillary for a second. I feel like

785
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: I owed it to you guys that I can see

786
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: her putting the same pressure on herself and they have yeah,

787
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: and I would if I mean, if it were me

788
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: and you were like, do this song and I'm like, ah, y,

789
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: I come on, and we don't win. I hope you

790
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: don't put that burden on you because I think in

791
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: the same way, she's probably doing that to her off

792
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: in the same way, and it is not fair. I

793
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: can tell you one thing about the Grammys and you're

794
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: on the board and you don't have you don't need

795
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: to comment on this. It's just run a different way

796
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: because I know that I vote, and sometimes even with

797
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: all the votes from my perspective, from what I have learned,

798
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: not you guys. There are people that can sit in

799
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: the room and go, you know what, I don't know

800
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: if that we're gonna go with the we're gonna as

801
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: a board just picked this one instead, and that was

802
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: an issue for a while. They got some. So you

803
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't feel that way. And I'm I'm absolutely bananas when

804
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: it comes. I am in my head all the time,

805
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: anxious about stuff constant, and I tell you, I think

806
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of us the ways that we're similar.

807
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: She's probably going dang, I feel like I let them down.

808
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think, And it's it's funny. It's a

809
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: good life moment to just going. I mean, look, I

810
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: wasn't contemplating passing to the next life or anything. But

811
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: I just got home last night, and again it was

812
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: empty home. It was like six days away, and I'd

813
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: been like, I've been going that whole it came home.

814
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: I've been going pretty hard that whole time, and I

815
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's a bit sad because I literally

816
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: had this lonely boy sat out on the balcony last night,

817
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: just looking out in the distance, like on my own.

818
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Do you do that? When I would do that would

819
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: be after a show. Now I didn't have a wife

820
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: or family, right, and I would go out and do

821
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: stand up and have a really good show.

822
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: I think that's probably that was the proverbial end of

823
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: show for me.

824
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: And now I go I go back to a hotel

825
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: and be just lonely as crap. I get all this

826
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: love out on stage, and I'll go back and just

827
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: be sad, because what do you do. You turn on

828
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: the fresh prints on the on the TV and sit

829
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: there alone and wait for the next show.

830
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: Last night, I had a bath and I listened to Bono.

831
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: Here's that book Surrender which is a marvelous book. By

832
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: the way, I just put the so no No speaker on

833
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: the bar like Bono comfort me, and it was great.

834
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Bono comforted me in the shower.

835
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: In the bath, I was fully closed and sometimes no,

836
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: you weren't. You weren't fully but I get that feeling

837
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: of like rush, but your wife's also gone, yeah, so

838
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: that's not helping things. But also you're not me for

839
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: a grammy. It's like I have to check myself sometimes too,

840
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: and I'm.

841
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: Like, well, but but that's the shame. That's the shame part,

842
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: because then you go from like oh gee, and then

843
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: and then you swing back to this, like you like

844
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: the life I said to Rebecca and our system when

845
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: we're out there, I was like, the life that we're

846
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: like that we've been. We went from like literally beds

847
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: man out of clothes and I was like, Beck, isn't

848
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: this amazing that we're literally in La together going to

849
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: like looking at this celebrating music's biggest night together And

850
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: we've devoted our lives to music. So it's like yeah,

851
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: And so then shame creeps in. It's it's just a

852
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: weird it's a weird cycle.

853
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: Soir and if we weren't crazy creative, I'll just use

854
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the alliteration there, we wouldn't be in this business anyway.

855
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: But it just goes hand in hand with how we

856
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: have to judge and juggle our emotions as a creative

857
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: like it's going to happen or yeah, I mean we

858
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: got into this being like this, so why would we

859
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: not be like this once we're in it? And so

860
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: you guys are a therapy at all I.

861
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 3: Have I do. Let me know, you'll let me know

862
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: your bloke or Sheila not now.

863
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: They call you guys called Sheila's. Is that? Is that

864
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: a woman in Australia? You guys do z or z

865
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: z z. That's weirder than all of every That's the

866
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: weirdest thing. So a conversation is you know what, you

867
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: know what the weirdest thing? You guys in America say

868
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: h it's h h.

869
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: You say Henry, You don't you say for Henry?

870
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I'm I can't justify the English language for many, many,

871
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: many reasons, the American version of it, because it's if

872
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I had to not learn a language, it'd be the

873
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: American version of English because we got it's everywhere all

874
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: the time.

875
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: You're just doing the most. America is just doing the

876
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: most all the time. Your rs how like Car, it's

877
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 3: so hard to say, Car, hey man, how are you today?

878
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: It's great to be here on the Bobby Bones Show.

879
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: Like that.

880
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: My mouth is tired.

881
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Do you have different accents in Australia? Are you kidding?

882
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like you know, like, al, you're good,

883
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm right here you go. I just figure that was

884
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: more Australian. I didn't know it was a different accent

885
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: in Australia. I just figured that was like deep, more

886
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: in the middle or something. I mean, if you're in

887
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Australia and you hear a Boston accent, no, you can

888
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: hear it when you hear the American different, yes, okay,

889
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: all I hear is a thicker Australian accent. I don't

890
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: hear different accent.

891
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: Adelaide, Adelaide, you know, Perth, Adelaide, Sydney all different in

892
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: the the outback of Australia. Those guys, man, it's a

893
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: whole other language.

894
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I have. Yeah, you know some of those guys

895
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: in there, they get real yeah. I mean I just

896
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: thought it was more Australian. Honestly, I wouldn't be able

897
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: to tell me. I mean, I was like, well, they're

898
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: really Australia.

899
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: You call them bogans, so you have I suppose you

900
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: call them rednecks here we have bogans.

901
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: Like the bush is what I would learn. Like that's

902
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: like the country and this was the rabbit trail of

903
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: all rabbit trails. That's just podcast. Like you said, you

904
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: you can do this, you can do this. You are

905
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: your sister is her success? When when do you think

906
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: it hit Not that she's not still at peak, but

907
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: when did it first hit the peak for her? And

908
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: where were you guys then when that was happening for her,

909
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: were you still working with her? Did you have aspirations

910
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: to do that? Were you doing music around her? Yeah?

911
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: So we grew up so we were roadies and then

912
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: Joe started doing background vocals for Abackground. Okay, it was

913
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 5: a disasre and it was as some good footage of

914
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: that you should find somewhere.

915
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: The trouble is when you make it when you when

916
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: you have kids who do not have the grounding of

917
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: school and then they travel and then you put them

918
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 3: in front of thousands of people. It's just a recipe

919
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: for like a homeschool of fourteen year old kids to

920
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: think he's awesome and have no right. So it's just crazy.

921
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 5: Still getting to travel and do some of the things

922
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: that's different education.

923
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Were you jealous of her success as a kid, she was.

924
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 5: I don't think that we ever really. I mean for me,

925
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: you know, I grew up with melodies in my head.

926
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: I've always grown up with thoughts in my head, you

927
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 5: know that could become songs. But I actually never thought

928
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: that I would do music until probably when I was

929
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: eighteen nineteen.

930
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Really so all the time on the road working in music, yeah,

931
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: and actually so close to it then, yeah, I think so.

932
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I just thought that I was going to be there

933
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: to help her along.

934
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: I always felt like I worked for my sister and

935
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 5: it was kind of a nice thing, you know, and

936
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: it was like there was no ego attached to it.

937
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until you know, kind of Joel came

938
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 5: along and was like, hey, man, what do you think

939
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 5: about writing some songs and singing on some demos. That

940
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: we got to a point of kind of considering it,

941
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: and I said yes. In some cases because A I

942
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 5: didn't have anything else going. But two I think that

943
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 5: I knew that there was something I heard these things,

944
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: you know I heard. You know, I used to listen

945
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: to music and go, why did they do that with

946
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: that melody? They should have changed it to this. So

947
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: when you around music most of your life, I mean

948
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 5: you joked about it being traveling was our education. Music

949
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: was our education. That is a thousand percent true. And

950
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: I didn't grow up I grew up playing a little

951
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: bit of drums, but I didn't grow up writing, you know,

952
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 5: working on chords or working on songwriting until I was

953
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 5: about nineteen.

954
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so you did you do you graduate? Yeah?

955
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, quote un quote, we graduated high school.

956
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: So you have your high school great diploma you both do. Yeah,

957
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: did you finish like a year before? Is it like

958
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: standard school. Here's a funny story for you.

959
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 5: When I when I got my diploma sent to me

960
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: in the mail, my mom my mom was.

961
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: Like, Luke, here's your high school diploma. And I was like, oh,

962
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: that's good.

963
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 5: And she looked at me and said, you're the only

964
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: one in the entire family that has graduated high school

965
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: on time. Everybody else, I don't know, a year or

966
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: too late. Been a year or too late. Yeah, there's

967
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 5: a lot of josh Aye.

968
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: There's a gray area with home school. I think Mom

969
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: was like, all right, Luke, you're dumb. Here's your diploma.

970
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: So did you.

971
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: You played basketball though?

972
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: Right?

973
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's modest, but he was actually a baller.

974
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: And I know this is true. You mentioned the ACL injury,

975
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: which was held you back or stopped you stop? Yeah,

976
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: but how did you play ball?

977
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: If so, here's so you know, if we want to

978
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 5: go there, we can. It's a podcast.

979
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: We can do this. So I started.

980
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 5: I didn't stop playing basketball until my freshman year of

981
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: high school. It was the first time I'd ever played

982
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: basketball in the league, and I did well, Like I

983
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: got Player of the Year that year. The Greater Yeah,

984
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: I was pretty taking.

985
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Were you athletic? Yeah? Tall?

986
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 5: So I grew up playing sports, but because we were

987
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 5: traveling all the time, I didn't get to play in

988
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 5: the leagues and all the types of things. So anyway,

989
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: I my sophomore year, I tried to balance traveling with

990
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: my sister and playing basketball, and because of that, I'd

991
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: misspractices obviously, and so the coaches are like, we can't

992
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 5: stop you if you're literally here, like two thirds of

993
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: the time, you're either here or.

994
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Not, so I started coming off the bench and I

995
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: didn't have a great year.

996
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 5: You know, you start to realize, like sports, you have

997
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: to really dedicate your life to it. So anyway, I

998
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: finished that year, don't have as good of a year,

999
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: and I kind of went to Mom and Dad. I

1000
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: was like, I just wanted the last two years ofhigh school.

1001
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 5: I want to give everything to basketball and just see

1002
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: what happens. And so I go through that, I get

1003
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: I get prepared for my junior year playing sports. And

1004
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 5: the very first game my junior year of high school,

1005
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: I told my a cl and so in some cases

1006
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: when it comes to freak taar or fall like hard fall,

1007
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 5: just a freakdaar, I just cut and boom and I'll

1008
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 5: never forget.

1009
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: They called the time out.

1010
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: I came out and the coach looked at me and

1011
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: he's like, so you're good now, right, And I was

1012
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: like yeah, because I didn't know what was going on.

1013
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: And I get back in and this guy just came

1014
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 5: driving down the lane. I went to defend him and

1015
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 5: my leg just went and I was like, I'm done.

1016
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: But it just gum, this is this jello feeling. It

1017
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 5: is a terrible feeling. Got on the bench and he's like,

1018
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: he said, what's going on? I said I And I

1019
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: looked at him and I was like, I think I'm

1020
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: really hurt, and he gave me the weird I'll just

1021
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 5: never forget that look in his eyes. His eyes were

1022
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 5: huge and he walked back and he kept coaching the

1023
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: rest of the game. I called my mom and I said, hey, Mama,

1024
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: and that was when it hit me.

1025
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: It's when I called mom, So do you repair it?

1026
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: And does it? Yeah? So you go, yeah, you have

1027
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: surgery a year later.

1028
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went and played a year later, but I

1029
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: knew it was like, man, it's literally, I mean, it's

1030
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 5: what you realize with.

1031
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: These professional athletes.

1032
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: It's it's amazing when they come back and really contribute

1033
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 5: a year later, like if the there are those stories

1034
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 5: out there, because it's a very it's kind of like

1035
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: relearning how to do everything. I mean even I went

1036
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 5: through all the practices, never thought of my knee, and

1037
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: in the first game I played my senior year, all

1038
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 5: of a sudden, I was super aware of my knee.

1039
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to jump in confidence. I don't

1040
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't want evidence. Yeah, just messes with you.

1041
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: So these professional athletes that come back and really are

1042
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: good a year after turning their aco. You know, my

1043
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: hat's off. It's it's it takes a bit.

1044
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: So you're seventeen or eighteen and Joel you're a couple

1045
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: of years. How much old are you there?

1046
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: Two and half years?

1047
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: So if you're twenty, what are you doing when he's

1048
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: doing this.

1049
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: I had had an Australian one of the dad's actually

1050
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: old Australian mates when I was about sixteen. It's like

1051
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: he said to Dad. I remember we were on an

1052
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: RV because we rented these RVs for Rebecca on the

1053
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: road instead of two buses that were cheaper, and he said, hey, David,

1054
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: you should your son should do music, and and it

1055
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: was I don't know, Dad, it was a middle child.

1056
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but it was never

1057
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: really a consideration for him. So from about sixteen on

1058
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: what I started writing and just sort of exploring music,

1059
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: and periodically between sixteen and twenty one, Dad had come

1060
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: and said, hey, I think you know, you should, you know,

1061
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: you should do music with you your little brother.

1062
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know.

1063
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to mess with that. Yeah, he can

1064
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: play drums, because he's a good drummer, and he was like, no,

1065
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: I think you should try writing with him. So, almost

1066
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: to sort of shut dad up, I was like, all right,

1067
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: and Luke at twenty's ACL so I felt really sorry

1068
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: for him.

1069
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 5: Of course, that maybe an elaboration story, but the than

1070
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: I think your.

1071
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Dad wanted you to to actually do music because he

1072
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: saw something that could be completed, or do you think

1073
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: he wanted you to to do something together because you

1074
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: were brothers and you both were kind of just finding

1075
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: try I think.

1076
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: I actually think I think he actually saw something. I

1077
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: think he knew there was a there was a First

1078
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: of all, Dad's a smart cookie, so he looked at

1079
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: the marketplace and at that point there were no duos.

1080
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: Duos so he's like, oh h Jewo's Jesus. So he's like, uh,

1081
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: you know, this is a good idea of marketing wise,

1082
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: but he's like, there's something actually between you guys, personality

1083
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: wise and voices that sort of blends.

1084
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

1085
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 4: Bobby cast.

1086
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: So personality wise, on stage, are you do you have

1087
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: the same dynamic? Are you A? And are you? And

1088
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean this like type A because my comedy partner.

1089
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: We do music, Eddie. He's such a type be and

1090
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: it's awesome. It fits me perfectly because he there has

1091
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: never been a more stable, straight guy and it makes me.

1092
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: He makes me funnier because he's freaking so and everybody's like,

1093
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: Bobby so good funny. But it's like it was ready,

1094
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: I want to be able to knock you.

1095
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: That is your baseline. Just but he's so like your foundation.

1096
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: Is that dynamic with you two the same as it

1097
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: was as brothers? Are you the foundation? Are you since

1098
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: you're the older? How does that work? On stage? On

1099
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: stage is a little bit different, right because and is

1100
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: it different than the creative?

1101
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: He does some really flamboyant moves on stage that I'm like, man,

1102
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm flamboyant, but I don't even think I could do that.

1103
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's funny? Yeah, so anyway off stage,

1104
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: off stage absolutely, because I haven't been to a show.

1105
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. Four tickets I did, Okay, you.

1106
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 3: Know it's a bit bombastic on stage, but off stage,

1107
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: which is sort of the bit that probably counts the most.

1108
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: It's so like there's the there's the yin and the yang,

1109
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm out, He's okay with me taking

1110
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: the lead at points, and and and it's really it's

1111
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: actually music which we didn't get on when we were teenagers.

1112
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: It's like he got taller than me. It's a bit

1113
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: of sportsman. All the things that shouldn't happen for a

1114
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: younger sibling happened like with him, and so I resented

1115
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: him for him better singer, you know. And it was

1116
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: actually music that kind of brought us back together, but man,

1117
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: I gave him a hard time.

1118
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Was there a moment musically though, where you guys went,

1119
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, maybe like whether you can think back

1120
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: and maybe not an exact moment there a song that

1121
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you wrote or a you know. We had Dallas Smith then,

1122
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: who's a Canadian singer songwriter, and he never sang. And

1123
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: he practiced once with like his two boys, and he

1124
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: then he went it was in default. They were this

1125
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: massive rock they had a massive pop song, and he

1126
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even know what else to do,

1127
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Like I just went and sang. And I was like,

1128
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I'm pretty it.

1129
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: Was a slope then it was I think it was

1130
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: The Jay Leno Show twenty thirteen January tenth, twenty thirteen.

1131
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: We was our first late night show.

1132
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm talking about before, I'm talking about just as brother. Yeah,

1133
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I just think it was a slog man.

1134
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: If people were to do like this and they had

1135
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: the footage, because they don't, But if they were to

1136
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 5: do like a documentary of the six years of Joel

1137
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: and I developing, it wouldn't be very interesting because it.

1138
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: Was all the it's just the grind.

1139
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: It was never so natural.

1140
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 5: But what's funny is, you know, what do they say?

1141
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 5: You know, you practice really hard, so it looks effortless.

1142
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: You know, in some cases it's all the songwriting sessions

1143
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 5: where he pissed me off and I pissed it. You know,

1144
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: like all of those things are the things that shape

1145
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: you together and and and you know your humor has.

1146
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 3: Developed, the moment actually comes, you're actually something. You're fortified,

1147
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: you fortied, and I think we didn't have a story.

1148
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: But we don't.

1149
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 5: We don't have a Yeah, we don't have like a

1150
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 5: It was this moment. I've always said that King Country

1151
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 5: has just always kind of been like this.

1152
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: It's just we've always had.

1153
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: Just enough to keep going, and it just keeps getting

1154
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 5: a little bit better. And I think even like probably

1155
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: how we work together because we are in some.

1156
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Cases an unlikely likely pair.

1157
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is you're unlikely because

1158
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 5: of how different the personalities are, but you're likely because

1159
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 5: you are so different. And that actually, if you have

1160
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: two people vying for the same spot, it'll never work.

1161
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: I mean, if there was two Bobbies, you guys would

1162
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 5: kill each other. And so it's you have to have

1163
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: some of that. And I don't think we probably realized

1164
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: it until those those years. It was kind of like

1165
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 5: now I can appreciate it because when I get up

1166
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: on stage, I can I can sit there and I go, man,

1167
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 5: we we we work well together.

1168
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: Like this this works.

1169
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 5: But when you're when it's undefined and nobody you know,

1170
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: you've you've you've not signed a record deal and you

1171
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 5: don't have a publishing deal. You don't have these things

1172
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 5: where other people are coming and saying I recognize something

1173
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: inside of you. In some cases you're just wandering in

1174
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: the dark.

1175
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: Well, and then you layer on the Rebecca component like

1176
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: you're always in that shadow, like that's just it's cute.

1177
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: They're just Rebecca and James little brothers. Look at you.

1178
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: You still you're still doing that little duo thing. N.

1179
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. And I guess I knew you before

1180
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: I knew her, right because she won a Grammy.

1181
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: We kept pretty we kept it pretty underwrapped so initially

1182
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: because we.

1183
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: We ah, is that a thing like you just didn't

1184
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: talk about it about it ever. And I guess that's

1185
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: why I'm not even I never even thought about not

1186
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: approaching it because I just knew you guys first, because

1187
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: I had I saw a Carmen in concert, I saw

1188
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, I had my stage of when I But

1189
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are so good. I think you could.

1190
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know, I'm gonna just pivot and

1191
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: get back to it. I think sometimes you guys get

1192
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: unfairly pigeonholed in a way that limits your growth because

1193
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: some people maybe think there are there ares we don't

1194
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: want them to beat other in more mainstream areas. I

1195
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a fair because you're Christians, you're

1196
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Christian artists. But I think what you guys do and

1197
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: how you do it is is I don't want to

1198
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: say bigger, but I think it could reach more people

1199
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: even that weren't looking for a specific message, but more

1200
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: of a generalized musical positive message. Like when I watch

1201
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: you guys videos, I go and the guys are good.

1202
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

1203
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: that you're Christian artist, doesn't matter that you're metal artists,

1204
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: is that you're not metal artists. But there's just something

1205
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: about good music that transcends. And you guys have that,

1206
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: and and country music does it too, where they go,

1207
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: we're locking this down. It's ours and anything else, and

1208
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: they don't need to be trying to go outside of

1209
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: country music and that you don't need to be coming

1210
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: over here and getting It's always controversial when someone does it,

1211
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like, and I hope that doesn't happen

1212
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: to you guys where but you are so good and

1213
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm like.

1214
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: Man, man, we try not to pay attention. I think

1215
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: so because because it goes both ways. It's like you

1216
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: have the grammar red compet and you're like, hi everyone,

1217
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: we're here, and you want your publishers walk up, you know,

1218
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: and then the flip side, maybe maybe not, but but

1219
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 3: of people sort of wanted to claim you, which we

1220
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: all do that, like this is my person.

1221
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: We're tribal for tribal but country music is the same way,

1222
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: and I say that speaking from the same spot or

1223
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: country music does it to its artists too. I do

1224
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: you guys feel that that at all has happened where

1225
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: there's a certain select group that's like, we don't want

1226
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: to see you guys go outside because we're so proud

1227
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: of you. We don't want anybody else to heck you

1228
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: are your are nights.

1229
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny, you know that there's I understand

1230
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 5: the perspective that that comes from, right And you've said

1231
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: very nice, encouraging things, and I thank you for that.

1232
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 5: I would say one of the things somebody said to

1233
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 5: me years ago that I've kind of taken to hot

1234
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 5: and that is, you know, there's there's two genres of music.

1235
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 5: There's good music and there's bad music. And at the

1236
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 5: end of the day, there are some boundary mackers and

1237
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: and there are occasionally some walls, but you're still allowed

1238
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: to write great music. And you never know in some

1239
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 5: cases when you start to think of things as I'm

1240
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 5: just boxed in, I just have to write these songs.

1241
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 5: The magic of and the brilliance of songwriting and the

1242
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 5: power of a song. It's is destroyed, it's it's it's

1243
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: a been blown up. But the truth is, man, it

1244
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 5: is not to say that, you know, if if it

1245
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 5: as Christians, right, we should be making the greatest art

1246
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: in the history of the world. If we're in touch

1247
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: with the creator of the world. I mean, this is

1248
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: a good thing, right, This is an amazing thing. And

1249
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 5: so in some cases when we say, well, you're actually

1250
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: good at what you do and these other guys aren't,

1251
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: it's like, man, well, what if we are all to

1252
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 5: raise our game.

1253
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: What if we're all to do a little bit better?

1254
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 5: You know what if we're we are to write a

1255
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 5: song that we call it crossover or whatever. I'm never

1256
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 5: gonna leave these group of people over here, and who knows,

1257
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: maybe there's a chance I can go see these people

1258
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: over here. But the moment that I try to feel

1259
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 5: like I'm actually boxed in with the way that I

1260
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 5: construct my life or my songs on my writing, I

1261
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: feel like they actually won, you know, the other people

1262
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: actually won.

1263
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Where my goal is man to write inspired music from

1264
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: the heart.

1265
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: That's always It's always been what it is, and who

1266
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 5: knows the magic of music can take it all around

1267
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 5: the world.

1268
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: And I agree with you instead, it completely sugg just

1269
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: when you get a word attached to you like they're

1270
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: a Christian artists, you are Christian artists. You're artists, You're

1271
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: a Christian, you're a Christian. But but some people just

1272
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: won't even give you a shot because and I guess

1273
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: at that point you say, well, I guess I gotta

1274
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: be and I guess, And that's frustrating to me for you.

1275
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 3: But but you know what, Bobby, there, this is where

1276
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 3: you're powerful. Like it's really meaningful to both we followed

1277
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: you for a time and moving fans. You know, there

1278
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: have been people like yourself that are confident enough in

1279
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: their own skin and bold enough. Dolly put was one

1280
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: of them as well. So I don't care. This is

1281
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: good and and for folks, for a pair of us

1282
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: who are trying to, I think, break stereotypes and and

1283
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: break boundaries and and come into wider conversations, because I

1284
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: think that's the beauty of music, is this free thing

1285
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 3: that we all get to be a part of, and

1286
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: it can meet us on any religious or irreligious level.

1287
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: And you know, it's the universal language that there's people

1288
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: like you that actually raise the flag and go I'm

1289
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: in like, sign me up for that. And I hope

1290
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: our story has not been completed yet as musicians, I

1291
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: hope that that storyline continues, that people start keep breaking

1292
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: down the walls.

1293
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1294
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1295
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: What do you usion like best about each other now

1296
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: as adults?

1297
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Speaker 3: That's a good question, that's a great question.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm not jealous of Joel and I

1299
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: can see who he is as a younger brother. I'm

1300
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: actually proud, you know, I'm not competing with him, and

1301
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: I love that and I and that's not necessarily saying

1302
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: about him. But to my point, I can say that

1303
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: Joel's a better leader than me. We have different leadership styles.

1304
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: I can still lead, but he has a God given

1305
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 5: ability of Like he gets into.

1306
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: A room, people want to follow him. Well, why am

1307
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: I going to compete with compete with that? Can?

1308
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 5: Can I offer him a tremendous amount of support in

1309
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 5: life in my role? Of course I can't, but it's

1310
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 5: one of that he's got. He's got drive that I

1311
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 5: don't have, you know, and I and I love to

1312
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: celebrate that in him. I don't want to compete with that.

1313
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I don't need to sit there and say, oh,

1314
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm all, don't forget about me. No, man, I'm I'm

1315
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: proud of him.

1316
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 5: I'm proud of him as a brother, proud of him

1317
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 5: as a leader, and I'm proud of what we've been

1318
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: able to, you know, some of these things that we're

1319
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 5: able to do and and if it wasn't for him,

1320
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 5: many of which we would not be doing.

1321
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: Joel adult version. What do he love about him?

1322
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm well, I love that he put up with me

1323
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: es Su a long time. You know, I think you

1324
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: and I have probably taken snapshots of our younger selves

1325
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: and just sort of politely and kindly and lovingly sort

1326
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: of shaken our heads at our younger selves. And man,

1327
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: I put him through the ringer in those early days

1328
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: because he hadn't written a song. He was as green

1329
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: as the grass on a lush spring day playing and

1330
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: so I sort of loaded that over him for a

1331
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: long period of time. It actually was when he got

1332
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: really ill early in our public career that it really

1333
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: kind of reset a lot, and even down to the

1334
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: last year there was another reset. But I'm so I'm

1335
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: proud of him. For just staying in it, and I'm

1336
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: proud of him for digging in. I think part of

1337
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: what Luke's type of personality, the peacemaker can just be

1338
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: like if I don't if I don't exert myself, then

1339
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: I never quite fail. But if I don't exert myself,

1340
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: then you never quite We're neither. And he's really he's

1341
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 3: dug in deep on not only our relationship, he's dug

1342
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: in deep on music. And then I'm really, I'm really,

1343
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 3: I'm not a dad yet. He's a father of four.

1344
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: Proud of him as a dad, like I'm proud of

1345
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: proud of the way he loves his wife. But he's

1346
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: just a good he's just a good dad. Like he

1347
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: brings his brings, my god children and his kids around

1348
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: a lot.

1349
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the hardest thing about working with your brother

1350
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: all the time? You kind of know each other's tricks.

1351
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 5: You know, he knows when I'm you know, feeling one

1352
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 5: way or you know, in some cases going back off

1353
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 5: what he said.

1354
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: I'm a good pitch man, but I'm a crap pitch

1355
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: man with he knows renegotiate, you know.

1356
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 5: The tricks you can't you can't, you know, he knows,

1357
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 5: you know. Even there's been times where there's been sensitive

1358
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 5: decisions that have to be made and I'm kind of

1359
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 5: dancing around some things and he goes, you know, tell

1360
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 5: me what it really is, you know, because I know

1361
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: you don't want to do this.

1362
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Because of X, Y Z. And sometimes they're difficult things

1363
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: to then discuss, but it must be discussed.

1364
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: It's those types.

1365
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: Of things where you you know, you know each other

1366
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: so very well.

1367
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 5: It's like playing It would be like playing yourself in

1368
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 5: a sports match.

1369
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: You know what you're going to try and do to

1370
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: the other.

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 5: Person, right, and you've just got to and but I

1372
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 5: think it's probably good, you know. That's one of the

1373
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 5: things I actually like about working with family is like

1374
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 5: at the end of the day with friends at times.

1375
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: And obviously work well with friends, but if they if

1376
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: you make them mad enough, they're just like peace.

1377
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: With family.

1378
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 5: You've still got to do Thanksgiving together, you've still got

1379
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 5: to do Christmas, and you've got to so in some

1380
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 5: cases you're forced to reconcile.

1381
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad discipline. Mm hm, that's interesting.

1382
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: Do you feel like love is a discipline?

1383
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 5: Well, you could get you're always given the choice of

1384
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 5: loving and hating. You know, so in some cases, you

1385
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 5: know you have the discipline of love. Is I think

1386
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 5: that's something that Isn't that humanity? Isn't that life? Isn't

1387
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 5: that what we're trying to do with life?

1388
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: Sure, I asked, I mean I was. I've been estranged

1389
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: from different before my mom died, and she had a

1390
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: lot of issues and we got to the point with

1391
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: her addiction that he got to the point where we

1392
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: got a strange for a while. My sister for a

1393
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: while until she got she's completely clean now. But I

1394
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: always dealt with is this a choice?

1395
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: Do I get to?

1396
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Am I a giving? I don't know. It's just good.

1397
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: It's a good question, I think with that specific ingredients.

1398
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: You know, It's funny. I talked it back on the

1399
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: plane about yesterday. There's a lot of these really cool

1400
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: like biblical parables. It's just stories basically, but the parable

1401
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: the prodigal son, it's like we always focus on the

1402
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: kid and like, this's a bit of an idiot, but

1403
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: the dad, Like the dad not only did he give

1404
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: him all the stuff, but the dad waited, like he

1405
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: didn't go and enable him. He didn't go. He might

1406
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: have died in the pig pen. But he didn't go

1407
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: to the foreign land. He didn't go get in the

1408
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: pig He literally actively waited for his son to return.

1409
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: So I think man loves all of it, loves an action,

1410
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: loves waiting, loves a boundary point, you know. But it's

1411
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: it's but. But I think the where we get tangled up,

1412
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: at least where I've gotten tangled up, is like love.

1413
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: Parts of love can be a feeling, but it is

1414
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: in my experience it is.

1415
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 5: I think it's your example, man, Addiction is a tough

1416
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: one to navigate when it comes to you. Am I

1417
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 5: hurting or am I helping right now? But if your

1418
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 5: accountenance of when given the opportunity, do you forgive?

1419
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: That's love.

1420
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean this, don't mean it's all gonna be perfect.

1421
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 5: But let's say something changes. Are you Are you going

1422
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: to be there?

1423
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: I forgive?

1424
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: Man?

1425
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 5: Is there any greater love than forgiveness When you've been

1426
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 5: actively wronged and you're going to give that person the

1427
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 5: opportunity to forgive them.

1428
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: That's a big one. I feel like you guys have

1429
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: to be nice to everybody all the time because you're

1430
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote Christian artists that will be hard.

1431
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind.

1432
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: It's an unfair I think it's and I try to

1433
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: be nice to everybody all the time anyway, but still

1434
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I can. And I'll give you an example of when

1435
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm in a room, I feel like I'm a wall.

1436
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm so introverted until I'm extroverted. I'm not an extrovert

1437
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: in any way whatsoever until it's time to perform. And

1438
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: that's where it sounds. It's all of it, right. And

1439
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: so if I'm somewhere, just like in line at Chipotle,

1440
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't I keep my head down. I don't want

1441
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: to bother anybody. But somebody like, hey, we saw bibles Chipotle.

1442
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: He talked to a single person. What a jerk? Now,

1443
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: But I don't have And that's just me being.

1444
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: Well, you're not you're not representing this this.

1445
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 5: Right to make this a spiritual analogy just for a

1446
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: second like he did. I always found it funny when

1447
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 5: it would talk about all the stories of Jesus, when

1448
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: he would go and heal all these people, right, that

1449
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 5: means that he passed by thousands upon thousands of people,

1450
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 5: never heal them.

1451
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: He wasn't nice. Historically, he would have based on the

1452
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: locations he was in, he would have just possed so.

1453
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 5: And the other thing is is how many times did

1454
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 5: he say and he went away to be alone by himself,

1455
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: actively saying no to the people that are like chasing him.

1456
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 5: So we should do the same at times. We can't

1457
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 5: be all things to all people's that's that's you know.

1458
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 5: But my goal is to be generous. My goal is

1459
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 5: to be to be kind, you know, the best of

1460
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 5: our ability. I think that's the way we meant to live.

1461
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 5: But there are times when I go to Chipotle and

1462
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 5: I kind of keep my head down and I go

1463
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 5: and order my food and I'm with my kids, and I.

1464
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: Just feel like it's a pressure that you guys don't

1465
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: deserve because of And I've kept you beyond time. But

1466
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: we did a lot of the data stuff before you

1467
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: guys came in. We know you're wildly famous, you got

1468
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: all the number one singles, you got all the shows,

1469
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I just wanted to use this time

1470
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: that we had together so people get to know so

1471
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: good man, the folks. I mean, that's what it is.

1472
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 5: I think the best interviews you talked about it before.

1473
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: The best interviews is when you don't have to listen

1474
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 5: to the notes where you don't have to lie.

1475
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have all the I didn't really

1476
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: even go to it because I'm just interested in perspective mostly,

1477
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: and as we own with yours.

1478
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: And I will say this just probably as far as

1479
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: perspective like you, I think it's because you're so ranged

1480
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: in the people that the genres and the people that

1481
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: you sort of touch on, and as far as interviewing

1482
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 3: and and and doing life with and holding up. It's

1483
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: a very unique perspective that you have, and it's an

1484
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: important one because you're actually you're a bridge builder, I think,

1485
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: in between different people. And and this is this is

1486
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: like the last frontier of a format that we can

1487
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: actually sit round and really digest some of this stuff.

1488
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: Like not give you a bit of candy to get

1489
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: your sugar levels up, but like let's digest these these ideas.

1490
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: We feel very very seen. So thank you, well, let's

1491
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: do this.

1492
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: Whenever you guys do announce your movie and do announce

1493
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: the project come back. I could do another hour, but

1494
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: honestly got my trainers out in the front yard ready

1495
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: for me right now with Eddie.

1496
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 3: Probably it is out there taking your time.

1497
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: Waiting on me. At this point.

1498
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: We're doing squats right now.

1499
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: Man, maybe you're just getting out of it. Man, this

1500
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,479
Speaker 1: is good. There's no getting out of it, no getting

1501
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: out of it. But I I just I enjoy you guys.

1502
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 1: I know women, I've been watching you guys the same way,

1503
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: mostly just because your signs will pop up all over

1504
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: when I'm driving to work and I'm like, those guys

1505
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: are both better looking at me, and I would be jealous,

1506
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: and then I would listen to the music and go,

1507
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm inspired, and probably not for the same reasons they

1508
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: think everybody else is inspired, the same reason that they're

1509
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: being told. I just listen and am motivated by the music,

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Speaker 1: and then I would see clips and you guys, you're

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: just really good. And in the end, it's the most

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01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: simple thing I could say, is that what you guys do,

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01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: the elementary version, is you just really good at it.

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01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: And what it is isn't really able to be defined

1515
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: because do you sound good? Sure, do you have a

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01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: good but do you see your instrument lives? Yeah? Yeah,

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: but everybody does. But also it's just good all the

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: elements people can do really well individually, but there's just

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01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: something about you guys. Man, I don't know, and if

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: I could define it, I would and you can't. But

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01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: it's there and you don't need my little pep talk here.

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm a believer and so keep it up.

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: You're killing it. I love to see it. I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of you guys. Thanks man, And that's all.

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Speaker 3: Mike, don't don't edit that last bit out of the.

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna beat it all, just like I'm gonna take that.

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01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna like just play that just anytime I

1528
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 3: have a depression night. I'm in the barthleto there's his

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Speaker 3: clothes off.

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Speaker 1: There are a few artists that actually moved me. I'm jaded.

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Speaker 1: I'll end with this. I'm Jada. We all get a

1532
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: bit Jada because we're around the best of the best

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: all the time. We're to town. We're the giants, a

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: land of giants. Everybody's good here. I'm moved by you guys,

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01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: and I don't and it's it could be one of

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: many things, but I love it. Thank you for spending

1537
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: over an hour with me, and we talked about it.

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: But you guys go check it out. The twenty twenty

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: three Spring Tour what we're waiting for starts March ninth,

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: all the way to the end of May for King

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Speaker 1: and Country dot com. And I'm gonna go work out.

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01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna go. Best of luck to you.

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: Sit in the bathtub and your son left. He was

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: in and Mike told him about the pool. He's probably

1545
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: like the pool. Mike lives here. Mike lovely, good to

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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Speaker 5: M HM.