1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: First Date is follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. Erica is on the 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: phone today for a first date follow up and she's 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: getting ghosted by a guy named Nathan. So in a 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: few minutes we'll call him and see if it tells 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: But first, Erica, how long has it been since your date? 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Two weeks? 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Two weeks? Okay? 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 4: Was the last time you talked to him on the 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 4: date or did you guys have any ear interaction after that? 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Nothing? I tried texting him, he didn't answering back. 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 5: So I didn't want to seem desperate, And then the 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 5: next day I DMed him on Instagram. 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Nothing, So I don't know. 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: Okay, it is said, I know being ghosted is the 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: worst that was your yea? 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Was the date good though? 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? He had like this quiet confidence and like easy 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 5: half smile. 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: And like I forgot my name for a second, and. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: Uh he like packed a picnic like a Michelin star chefs, 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 5: like with the cloth, napkins, sparkling lemonade, homemade. 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: Peach hand pies. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: I was like, what you made this? I love a 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 5: guy who can cook. And I was excited and he 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: was excited. He offered to skip rocks and we ended 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: up skipping rocks and he was like, listen, when you 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: get it to finally glide, you're going to feel like 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: a superhero. And it was like Lakeside Park at Golden Hour. 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 5: You know, we had the blanket, it got a little chili, 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: and then he had this playlist, a little speaker and 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: snacks and he just had everything planned out. It was 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: just so nice to just experience the state with him 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 5: and talk and you know, he. 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: When he was skipping, he was giving me the technique. 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: Of the you know, rock throwing. And uh, the only 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: thing that I think maybe is the reason he's ghosting 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 5: is like I shared this story about about. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: My dad and like I was copying his stamp to 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: skip these. 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: Rocks, and I kept on splashing, and every time I 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: would splash, I would say strike, you know, and uh, 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: okay has a problem. I don't know, like, and I 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: was like, my dad, you know, forced me to play 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 5: softball growing up, and I sucked and every time I missed, 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: he would have the whole team and he would he 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: would yell strike and so off to choose to saying that, 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 5: and uh, I don't know if I shared too much 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 5: and I sounded like a loser and it was like 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: too much too. 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: Soon, But we laughed a lot. 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: You know, were you overly emotional or something and telling 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: that story like. 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: No, no, I just said as a matter of fact, 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: but he was just listening. And we moved on. 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: But like if I like going back and trying to 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: like find why he would be ghosting me, I'm like, well, 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: I did share that. Maybe that seemed like, uh, like 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: I was a loser or something. 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: Much. Yeah, it happens. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: But after that we started talking about his sister and 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 5: It was really fun and he offered me a hoodie 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: when it was cold, and the conversation after that was easy, 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: and you know, there were sparks everywhere. And so I'm 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 5: just like confused and heartbroken because I thought giving the 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: rocks was fun and I'm not sure if he did 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: or not. 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: It's like this always thrown me though, because he puts 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: so much effort into it and then you're just going 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: to disappear. 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like we were perfectly instinct. Yeah, I don't know, Okay, 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: it felt like the vibes were nice, so I'm not sure. 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: We'll see if we can figure it out for you. 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll play a song and then come back and then 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: call him and see if I tell us why he's 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. Okay, okay, 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: all right, we'll get your first day follow up next. 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Right in the middle of your first day follow up, 81 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and Erica is on the phone today and she's getting 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: ghosted by a guy named Nathan. So we're about to 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: call him and then see if he'll tell us why 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: But first, Erica, why don't you break down your date 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: again for us real quick? 87 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, we went on a picnic and he made 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 5: me a homemade peachant pies and everything was amazing, and 89 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 5: he taught me how to skip rocks, and I shared 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 5: a personal story about my dad. 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: That we have ruined it. 92 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: And then it got cozy and we were back in 93 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: the vibe and I'm not sure if I shared too much, 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: but I definitely had fun that it was really sweet 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: to be with him and talk with him. 96 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: Okay, well, are you ready for us to call him 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you? 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: Yes? Please? 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Hello, Hi, I speak to Nathan please. Yeah, Hey, Nathan, 100 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: how are you. This is a radio show. It's called 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: The Jewel Show. 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: Hi Nathan, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my name 103 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: is Jeubel. What's up? Have you ever heard the show before? 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: I just don't know why he might. 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 5: Be calling me. 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, have you gone on any dates recently? I? 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, cool. 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: We're calling because this is a first day follow up. 110 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: You know, the segment where you go out on day 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: with someone and you and up ghosting them. That person 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: can email us to get you on the phone and 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: ask why you're ghosting them. 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: And we got an email about you. 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 6: Okay, wow, all right. I was not expecting this at all. 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: Are you Who are you ghosting? Nathan? 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 6: I mean, who am I not ghosting? 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: Wo? 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: I assume it Eric? 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it is Erica. She emailed us. We talked to 121 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: her about your date. 122 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Sounded nice, sounded great actually, and she told us that 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: you haven't talked to her in two weeks. So would 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: you mind telling us why are you Ghostinger? 125 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 6: M m? She can't kiss my bottom lip is still 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: blue from all of the sucking and the slobber Wow. Yeah, 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: just a mood killer. The day was pretty romantic before 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: that too. 129 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: She bruised your bottom lip? 130 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was really something else. 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: She sucked that hard because that would be the only way, 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: right that you can does your lip change color if 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: that happens? 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yeah it was. 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 6: It looked like, you know, like somebody who had been 136 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 6: in the pool for too long. 137 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: Oh really, clearly, I haven't had my lips sucked that 138 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: hard before. 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 140 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: I hadn't either until I went to the doctor to 141 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 6: figure out what was going on. Well, and yeah, they 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 6: were like, you know, there's bruising, but you don't. 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: Think that you could have just like talked to her 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: about it, been like, maybe be more gentle next time. 145 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 6: No, it seemed like that was like her style, like 146 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 6: she was. She was really into it, and so I 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: just did. It just totally turned me off. I've kissed 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 6: bad kissers before, but I've never like kissed a vacuum cleaner. 149 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 6: It sucked, but I guess that's what I would say. 150 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Or is that awesome? 151 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: You know she lef to do that much, she couldn't 152 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: get enough. 153 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 6: I don't want to be I don't want to be 155 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: hurt by a person getting two into me. I think 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: there's a there's a happy medium for that. 157 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well, thank you for telling us. 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I'll also let you know that Erica is actually on 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: the phone and has been listening and wants to talk 160 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: to you. 161 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 6: Oh wait, she's here. Yep, yeah, hey Erica. 162 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. The kiss, you were making noises like you're 163 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: enjoying it like a cat. 164 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: A cat. 165 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 6: No, I was not purring. 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: I was wincing. You were sucking my lip. 167 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 6: Off my face and just like drowning it in saliva. 168 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: It was passionate. It was like getting caught. 169 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 6: In a sprinkler. It was just it was so much moisture. 170 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 5: My ex taught me how to kiss like that, which 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: makes it worse. 172 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 6: Why would anyone pass that on. It's not a family recipe. 173 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 6: Just like let that. 174 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: You want wincing in pain. 175 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 5: You were like, oh, like purring, I was drowning. 176 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 6: Does that sound like somebody purring or sound like somebody drowning? 177 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: No, you are drowning. I guess I'm memorable. What is 178 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: it really? 179 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: Like? 180 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: What is it really? That's it? That's what it is. 181 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 6: I mean, It's not just my lip. I mean like 182 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: my shirt was soap, like you have to wear a 183 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 6: bib if you want to make out with her? 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: What's come on? 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: Like you we were skipping rocks on the water. You 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: got splashed by the rocks and the water, and it 187 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: can't be the kick? Is there anything else? 188 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 6: Anything else? Do you think that the rocks skipping on 189 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 6: the water splashed up and only covered my mouth, my 190 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 6: chin and my shirt? 191 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 5: Let me do you know what I mean? 193 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 6: Water and saliva? It was like sticky. 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: It was like. 195 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 6: Glimer had just gone like right through me. 196 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: People like spitty kisses. Fish fish like spitty kisses. 197 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 6: People don't wind them. 198 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, I just thought that everybody liked that. 199 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 6: I'm telling you that's not true. So you can't say 200 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: that anymore. You can't say I mean, I'm taking off 201 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: my scuba mask so that I can say is so 202 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 6: they can let you know that that's not true. 203 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, maybe you can teach me how to do 204 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: a dryk is. 205 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: Hey, Nathan, would you like to go out with Erica again? 206 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 6: That sounds worse than the way I kiss. 207 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: No, I'm good, No, thank you. 208 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: You could teach her how to kiss exactly where you 209 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: liked it. Yeah, she's willing to learn how to kiss 210 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: Nathan style. 211 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: I can't. 212 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 6: My doctor told me I can't kiss anyone for like 213 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 6: three more weeks. 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: Really that sounds doctor have a crush on you. 215 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: Okay, well maybe he didn't say that exactly, but I 216 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 6: don't want to kiss anybody for like three weeks. It's 217 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 6: like even sipping home and it was straw, now is painful? 218 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: Wow, you sucked on his lips that hard? 219 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Erica, Well, I mean I was. I thought it was passionate. 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I get where you're coming from, Erica. Maybe 221 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: next time you just got to like gauge, like do 222 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: you want to kiss? From like a scale one to ten? 223 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: How Bruce, do you want. 224 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: To be you? 225 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: I can't believe that. I kind of want to see it. 226 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 5: Please give me another chance. 227 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: Please. 228 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 6: I gave you another chance when I was like pulling 229 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 6: away and you just kept coming. 230 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: I tried. 231 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: I can't, Nathan, think about it. 232 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: Really, you said yourself, she's a vacuum cleaner and now 233 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: she's begging. 234 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: Okay, those are good reasons to enday with somebody here. 235 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Ju Wile's first day follow up