WEBVTT - Sixers Summer Of Change Is Just Beginning (Feat. Bill Reiter)

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Trista Quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of The Heat Check, We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>special bonus episode of The Heat Check featuring Bill Ryder,

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<v Speaker 2>friend of show NBA Insider as a CBS sports radio

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<v Speaker 2>show as well on honesty. The interview was conducted on

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<v Speaker 2>my other show bet MGM tonight, So thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>my co host Ryan Horvat and Nick Ashew for playing along.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's get right into it and drop that beat.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked Bill if the Lakers adjustments in the second

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<v Speaker 2>half gave.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lakers hope in the future. His answer to me

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<v Speaker 3>was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my takeaway is I wish I had a

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<v Speaker 1>yokicch Finals MVP. Do you want to sell them pennies

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<v Speaker 1>on the dollars? Look, I thought, it just continues this

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly interesting and in some ways at least half the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are left unpredictable NBA playoff run And for me, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>is the main thing is what you said Jokic amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But also we'll see what the adjustments are, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>sort of what other players step up. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't win a basketball game, if you're the Lakers, when

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis has that kind of a night, And despite

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers that Yogic put up, it's not like ad

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<v Speaker 1>was playing lacks of daisical defense on Nikola. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>the takeaway is Denver is so good and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a whole lot from La to win this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, do you feel like what we're seeing with Boston

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<v Speaker 2>with Denver that we are getting into a new era

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<v Speaker 2>where teams are going to just stop with the idea,

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<v Speaker 2>especially considering how Phoenix flamed out and basically had to

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<v Speaker 2>fire their coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, do you feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a place where, you know, gms and roster

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<v Speaker 2>builders are going to be thinking about slow, organic builds

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<v Speaker 2>versus you know, gutting their team for stars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a great question, and they should be. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still have buddies who think they're gonna find you know,

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<v Speaker 1>happy marriages, happily ever after at the bar after midnight, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's always gonna be a few out there who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to try to speed up the process. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're onto something. I think the inside is

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<v Speaker 1>really smart because the way the CBA was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>work last time around, but because of all the money

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<v Speaker 1>that flooded in from TV rights going up. It allowed

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors to get durant, and that it really sort

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<v Speaker 1>of confused how the process is supposed to work. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's all corrected itself, they're gonna level in the money now.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, there's gonna be huge advantages for teams that

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<v Speaker 1>draft properly, that developed talent properly. We've seen superstars willing

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in places more than they used to, like

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<v Speaker 1>Giannis for one of the many examples of Milwaukee, if

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<v Speaker 1>the situation's pretty good or if they have some success.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right there will be some super

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<v Speaker 1>teams that chase sort of that approach. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>certain players who are going to force their way out

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<v Speaker 1>like they always have. But I think you're right that

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<v Speaker 1>the new era is going to lean itself and lend

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<v Speaker 1>itself toward really well run organizations, drafting right players and

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<v Speaker 1>building a team in a very different way.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, with James Harden officially declining his player option,

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<v Speaker 2>the big question is where Harden will end up next season.

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<v Speaker 2>We also then get into some draft talk. Bill had

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<v Speaker 2>some fascinating thoughts on both subjects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, so I I think I'm right

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm about to say, but full disclosure, I say

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot, and so not everyone agrees. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Rivers is one of the most overrated basketball coaches

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, and I think that the numbers have

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<v Speaker 1>proven out for a long long time. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote something when he got hired in twenty twenty that

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<v Speaker 1>said Philly had just condemned themselves to mediocrity in the

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<v Speaker 1>postseason until they fired him. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big step forward, I really do. I know it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like low hanging through it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the right sort of beginning point for

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation, hardened by all indications. I'm in Chicago at

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<v Speaker 1>the combine, it was at the lottery the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>The GM's everywhere, so you know, everyone sort of believes

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<v Speaker 1>that Harden's going to be in Houston. That's been the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective even before, really even before they got they got

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<v Speaker 1>blown out of the postseason and beat it'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Darryl Morey's a pretty good GM. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are I would hire Monty Williams for that job,

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<v Speaker 1>but Nick Nurse is an excellent coach and Mike Budenholder

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<v Speaker 1>it is probably not the right fit for me, but

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<v Speaker 1>as an excellent coach, and you've got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>great assistants. So I think Philly is gonna be really competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the difficult question is going to be and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it depends how you view Tyrese Maxie In

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<v Speaker 1>terms of Kenny step up and fill that void offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he can. How did Philly get

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<v Speaker 1>creative in replacing Harden's at least regular season production? Darryl

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<v Speaker 1>Morey's pretty aggressive in that respect, But I'm pretty I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty optimistic about Philly for a lot of reasons, the

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<v Speaker 1>main one being I think they got rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach I know people really like, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he was ever going to have the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>success that they're crazing with m beat on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that I have heard, and we don't know, right

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<v Speaker 1>because I could never have predicted that Harden, nor I

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<v Speaker 1>think did anyone else. Certainly the poor folks in Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>would force his way to the nets and then force

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<v Speaker 1>his way to Philly and then you know, obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>stay in Philadelphia. I mean, this guy has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the move, and I like James, but they answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody thinks he's going to Houston, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less ap only place now that they're obviously not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to draft Victor webin Yama, they did

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<v Speaker 1>not get the number one overall pick. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's either gonna go to Houston out of the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of love for it, or he's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the bag right because he's older and if he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get paid, this is the time basically get a

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<v Speaker 1>contract from somebody to me. And I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is sort of influenced by the view of

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<v Speaker 1>people around the league, but I think what he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>is his way of trying to set the narrative to

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<v Speaker 1>why he's gonna leave Philadelphia. They weren't happy at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw NB throw guys under the bus. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it did not end the way they wanted. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's just gonna go to Houston, and I think what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying is probably not his actual heart's desire. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he just wants to leave Philly and he's set

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<v Speaker 1>in the stage for then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting too, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>nothing stunts the growth of young developing talent like James

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<v Speaker 2>Harden on the roster, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>With you Mayu Doka.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's gonna be a wild one to watch. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that you were at the combine. I think what's

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating for us outside of the Victor Wambia and now

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<v Speaker 2>to the Spurs, which in time is a flat circle

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<v Speaker 2>and they just get a transcendent generational big Man after

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<v Speaker 2>big Man? Is this difference between Scoot Henderson and Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Miller and the needs of Charlotte and Portland trading that pick.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think happens with Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you take Brandon Miller to go second overall, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like plus one twenty five, would you take Scoot

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<v Speaker 2>Henderson to go third, which is you know, plus one

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five, or would you think that maybe there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a shake up because of all the teams

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<v Speaker 2>trying to trade up into getting into the top three pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good question. So for people that are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out where they're well out their money

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<v Speaker 1>to go right in that respect, I'll give this information

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<v Speaker 1>and may be had influences to we're taking some more chances.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a couple executives and a couple gms

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<v Speaker 1>who in a very candid sort of background conversation where

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<v Speaker 1>they said some other things that were off the record

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<v Speaker 1>but pretty startling, right like just gods if I can't say,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of trust in this conversation. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we got to the draft, they're view and these

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<v Speaker 1>are people I really respect for their ability to analyze talent,

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<v Speaker 1>was that one is obviously set, but they thought even

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<v Speaker 1>two to five, while it's probably a three person drafts,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought certainly at two and even at three and

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<v Speaker 1>four that they think there could be room for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things to change, and that there will actually

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<v Speaker 1>be in Charlotte a pretty aggressive debate between those two

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<v Speaker 1>guys and maybe other people. Portland's absolutely going to trade

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<v Speaker 1>out of that position. They're going to move on from

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<v Speaker 1>that spot. Someone's going to trade up. It'll probably depend

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<v Speaker 1>when we sort of know where Charlotte's going. Who values

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<v Speaker 1>the guy of those two that you mentioned that has left.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there are pretty good odds on somebody right

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<v Speaker 1>now and maybe Tenderson, it may not be the worst bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my understanding talking to the experts here is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a lock. It may not be Brandon Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>It very well could change, and so there might be

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<v Speaker 1>some opportunity today for some value if that perspective is correct,

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<v Speaker 1>that the conventional wisdom now is not going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is a month from now.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning like maybe one of the Thompson twins could go second.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe or third, right, depending where you think it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going to be. And obviously there are some

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<v Speaker 1>personal issues that you have to weigh with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people you mentioned, and that really comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>every individual executive in front office assessing that young man

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<v Speaker 1>and where he's at, and you know all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean the general view of the experts,

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<v Speaker 1>which is different by the way than the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are my media colleagues. But the actual gms in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's they think there's the possibility of it

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<v Speaker 1>being pretty surprising. After we get past number one.

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