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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Hello everyone across the world. You are

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Speaker 1: listening to Stradio lab Um. I'm joined today by my

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Speaker 1: gorgeous intellectual clost George Severis. Hi George, how's it going? Wow? Sam?

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Speaker 1: So professional? Thank you. I thought it would be like

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Speaker 1: I started talking, and normally I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: like I started actually low energy, and I had to

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Speaker 1: it would be funny to like pretend to be uh,

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Speaker 1: introducing a show, right, to pretend that you take what

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Speaker 1: we do seriously. Yeah, and I'd like to give it

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Speaker 1: a little weight. I felt like was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would actually be great at introducing

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Speaker 1: people as a career, but I completely I think we

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Speaker 1: would both be very good at that. Actually, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I would sound like I'm mocking them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like if I when I imagine if

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Speaker 1: I ever have the great honor of presenting an Academy award,

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Speaker 1: for instance, I would have to when I read the

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Speaker 1: like you know how everyone has to like define acting

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Speaker 1: before presenting the award. They're like a great actress embodies

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Speaker 1: embody as a woman but also has hair. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would yeah, I would say that, like and it would

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Speaker 1: sound like I was mocking Amy Adams or whatever. M No,

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Speaker 1: I think coming from you, it would kind of sound

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Speaker 1: like I don't say this about a lot of girls,

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Speaker 1: Like I think it could sound like really special and

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Speaker 1: it would actually be maybe the most special intro of

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Speaker 1: the night, thank you. I do prefer I prefer the

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Speaker 1: intros for like the categories people quote unquote, like the

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Speaker 1: you know, a mainstream non film audience quote unquote doesn't

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Speaker 1: care about like when you're introducing like film edit or

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Speaker 1: like sound editing, and you have to be like a

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Speaker 1: great sound can go from ear to ear, more from

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Speaker 1: country to country, transcending language. I know that people are like,

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Speaker 1: keep the film editing category. Don't do this. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get hate mail for what good? I say, cut it all,

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Speaker 1: I say, got the boring ship. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see it. If I'm watching the Academy Awards, I want

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Speaker 1: Best Actress fourteen times. I want I want best actress

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Speaker 1: in a blah blah blah, best actress in a superhero movie.

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Speaker 1: I want best actress in a in a Prestigi I

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Speaker 1: want best actress in a girly movie for the girls.

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Speaker 1: I do kind of like adding more genres, specifically girly

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Speaker 1: movie and superhero movie to the officers I do I

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Speaker 1: disagree with I think all the technical categories need to

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Speaker 1: be celebrated. This is a one night they get. Not

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Speaker 1: everyone is Jennifer Lawrence. Look if we're celebrating the people

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Speaker 1: that are technical, it's like, look, we need a masonry

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Speaker 1: night too, Like we should like this. You want to

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Speaker 1: celebrate only the humanity is not not the people that

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Speaker 1: are STEM. It is actually the oscars are the one

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Speaker 1: area in our society where STEM, where people in STEM

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Speaker 1: are marginalized. I think that, you know, I'm not a psychopath.

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Speaker 1: I understand they deserve to be recognized for their work.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just like, I'm not gonna watching this broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like, you know, who's a great

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Speaker 1: film editor? Actually it's stand Borgenstein is actually not very good. No,

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Speaker 1: you have to he's overrated. No, it's it's tight editing.

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Speaker 1: And I know that maybe that's not everyone style. Flabby editing.

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Speaker 1: Well it is. It is an interesting question how to

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Speaker 1: make the like the Oscars. It's almost like part of

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Speaker 1: it is just the fact that they keep failing over

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Speaker 1: and over again. They keep making all the wrong decisions.

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Speaker 1: No one is also like, cinema has never been less

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Speaker 1: important to mainstream culture, which is kind of sad. I'm

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Speaker 1: not kind of sad it is. Let's not it's sad.

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Speaker 1: It's sad. Yeah, movies are books now and since that,

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Speaker 1: people don't want to watch them. It really it makes

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Speaker 1: me feel reactionary because I'm like, no, like we need

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Speaker 1: to bring it back, Like how do we do it? Well,

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Speaker 1: there's just no way we got to change the like,

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Speaker 1: there's no like. It is literally a niche interest to

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Speaker 1: be interested in Oscar movies. That used to be the

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Speaker 1: most mainstream possible thing was like if you watch like

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Speaker 1: the Oscar movies were. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: like the mid budget movies or whatever. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: if a movie went the best picture. Well, it's also

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Speaker 1: because like Oscar movies have like I don't know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: I feel like they've eaten their own tail in a

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Speaker 1: way where it's like so many Oscar movies feel like

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Speaker 1: parodies of Oscar movies. Yes, and I'm like the worst

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Speaker 1: time for that was like there was one year where

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Speaker 1: there was both The Imitation Game and Theory of Everything, Remember,

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Speaker 1: and I was like those are the same. Let's grow

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Speaker 1: and actually we didn't need either of them. We didn't

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Speaker 1: Something that people don't realize is that Obama era oscars

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Speaker 1: oscars were better under Trump. I'll say it. No, so

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Speaker 1: you're you're arguing, actually, are aren't really thrived under Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that specifically, like mid budget Oscar movies, because

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Speaker 1: when was hold on, shut up unbelieva? Yeah, Moonlight? Would

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Speaker 1: Was Was that was that pre Trump? Because he was?

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Speaker 1: It certainly was filmed pre Trump. Yeah, so actually moon

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Speaker 1: like is why that was. Trump was a reaction to Moonlight.

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a drag or phrase it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to go back and celebrate that film

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Speaker 1: with a closer to mock the actress who plays the mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Then if they're like, it's actually like a beautiful, quiet

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Speaker 1: I have to see it. And yet you still haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Vox Lux. I know it's that as a movie

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Speaker 1: I have not seen it yet. You have seen Mother

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Speaker 1: Was that Trump era I think so. No, I definitely

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Speaker 1: I've remembered ever since, but it's something I think about

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Speaker 1: my extreme ignorance in the Obama era was truly like

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Speaker 1: Well I also, I mean, listen, we don't have to

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Speaker 1: but about other people. That's why. Which was the King's

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Speaker 1: Speech of Elections was the last election that was just chill.

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Speaker 1: the election because it was like the only it was

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Speaker 1: like the last election that was like vibes. Yeah, people

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Speaker 1: why I didn't. It was self care. Yes, it's truly

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Speaker 1: don't have to do this. Men are not safe. I

426
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: am one. I'm telling you they're not safe. I It

427
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: also like in a gay club, you have the facade

428
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: of like like we're being silly and dancing to pop

429
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: songs or whatever. And I feel like in a straight club,

430
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: you don't like if you're a man, if why are

431
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: you as a man dancing to a pop song? It's

432
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: like there's anything about it. But also like its god,

433
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: it if the gender like okay, what about this? The

434
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: fact that like men, it's like the performance of men

435
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: being like, well, I don't dance because dancing is gay,

436
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: but then women like dragging them to the dance floor

437
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: and like they the men look miserable and they're like,

438
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm just here because I gotta put in my hour

439
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: so I can so I can get some sex later.

440
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: That's really good Stan, But it is like, god, I

441
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: was thinking about this what I was at a wedding

442
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: the other week. Just like the the fact that when

443
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: you are a straight couple, at every turn you have

444
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: to kind of like negotiate gender differences, you know what

445
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean. It seems exhausting. It seems just like, oh

446
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: my god, there's a tiresome must be another way. Yeah.

447
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: I think I remember like listening to when I was younger,

448
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: hearing like Cascana that song every time we touch, and

449
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I remember like dancing to it really hard and really

450
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: fucking loving it, and I was like, Wow, this song

451
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: is fucking amazing, and I was like, something's wrong about this.

452
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm like the other girls. So yeah,

453
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: I guess I would bump up against a street guy

454
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: who was just ethic club to purely enjoy, sort of

455
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: like a Kesha like Timber remix. It's like, I don't

456
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: know what do we want them to do. It's like

457
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: I don't want them to be seedy annoying, but I

458
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: also am nervous if they are actually enjoying themselves and

459
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: just dancing for fun. No, You're absolutely right, which is why, like,

460
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: ultimately it is the most difficult being a straight guy culturally,

461
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: not not in terms of actual power, but just in

462
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: terms of like every day, everyday culture is an impossible position.

463
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: You can't get this post is about right. It's true truly.

464
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: It's like if I was a strike I what how

465
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: would I act in order to make a good impression.

466
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: I would probably just lock myself in a room and

467
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: never leie. Honestly, yeah, more I think more stra I

468
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: should try that, too bad, it would be the wrong

469
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: ones that would actually have that self awareness. That's always

470
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: the issue. The nice ones would be the ones locking

471
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: themselves up. But but truly, like what would either if

472
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: you were a straight man, how would you continue? You

473
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like if you're trying to like

474
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: go to a club and enjoy yourself and have like

475
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: a I'm having a straight into the club and I'm

476
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: not making any waves and I'm being a good, straight, ethical,

477
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: non toxic straight man. I think you like have a

478
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: nice wine. It basically goes back to wine. Well, that's

479
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: also you get into like like you go to like

480
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: music shows, like that's sort of it you like because

481
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: that's like a non hook up ee but still like

482
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: loud dancing space totally yeah, either to support are you're

483
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: there to like connect with one of your interests that

484
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: like I guess it's like yeah that makes sense. Okay, Yeah,

485
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: so we don't do clubs. You go to concerts with

486
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: your girlfriend and with another couple that you know from work.

487
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: That is the most way, That is the most ethical

488
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: way to be a straight man. You Also, I do

489
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: think clubs like Capital C clubs are are off the

490
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 1: table unfortunately. But I think like you can find like

491
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: a small bar with dancing that like is kind of

492
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: like playful and isn't like I'm here to like hook

493
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: up with chicks, but it's like I'm here to dance

494
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: a little and like be fun with like three friends. Okay, great.

495
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: I feel like the club could also be a transition,

496
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Like it could be like you, I would go to

497
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: that fun, divy bar that has like dancing, or to

498
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: the concert and then be like, hey, you want to

499
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: get out of here right there? And then maybe they

500
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: would want to go dance? Was that good? How did

501
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: that turn on? Like? Every woman listening to this is

502
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: like stopping wet. Now. I hope to make all the

503
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: stradio lab but listeners sopping wet. That's the goal every episode.

504
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: Not all our guests have achieved. No, no, no, I'm

505
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: working hard to do it. And another way I can

506
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: do it is by mentioning the King's speech is one

507
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: of the hottest movies. Do you like that? Um, Dave,

508
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I think it might be time for our first segment.

509
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Sam Georgia is completely right. So our first segment is

510
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: called straight Shooters. And in this segment we ask you

511
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: a series of completely nonsensical questions where you have to

512
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: choose one thing or another thing. And these are with

513
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: the intention of us gauging your familiarity with and complicity

514
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and straight culture. And the one rule is you can't

515
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: ask any follow up questions or anything about how the

516
00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: game works. Okay, I'm in Okay, Sam, take it away? Okay,

517
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Dave um being the Valedictorian or being a mandalorian being

518
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: the Valedictorian. Okay, Dave. Saturdays are for the boys, or

519
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays we wear pink Um Saturdays for the boys. Okay,

520
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Jesse J or Juicy Juice Jesse J. Justice for Jesse J.

521
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: All day. You are the only gay on earth that

522
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: believes that I love that. No one cares. She's the

523
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: best singer alive. No, not one person cares at all, Okay, Dave.

524
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Cracking your iPhone screen or cracking the da Vinci code.

525
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Cracking the da Vinci code okay, okay, love me or

526
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: hate me? It's still an obsession. Or to be or

527
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: not to be? That is the question. I love that.

528
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Wait who is this artist? Love me or hate me?

529
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: It's still an obsession. Wait, it's Sam's favorite song all

530
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the time. Wait, who is it? Lady Sovereign, Lady Starburn, Okay,

531
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Lady Salving. I have to I'm listening to that as

532
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: soon as we are over. Okay, Dave, making it rain

533
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: or voting for John McCain, um making it rain? This

534
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: one's not good. I was. I ran Okay, Yeah, okay,

535
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: this one's just pretty straightforward and actually really obvious. Um filthy,

536
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: rich or poor? I don't know. I don't know money

537
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: with with money comes a lot of problems. I guess

538
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: I'll stay here from the thirty sixth floor of this

539
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: luxury high rise in Midtome, Manhattan. Rich. Um, okay, Dave,

540
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: go fund me or go fuck yourself, Go fund yourself? Perfect? Wow, Dave.

541
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: You know, we rank everyone's performance on the skill of

542
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: zero to one doves, and to me, that was a

543
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: near perfect score. Yeah, a thousand thousand h I love

544
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: that song. I think it's one of my favorites off

545
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: the album I don't know one feels that way, but

546
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm excited for we need to know we have not

547
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I have tickets, tickets, you have tickets? Yeah, I have

548
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: two tickets. Well wow, I wouldn't mind. They were already

549
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: sold out, like immediately bow And said maybe he could

550
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: make it happen. That's kind of what I mean. I

551
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: was like when he said that, I was like, Okay, great,

552
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything. He's gonna get a ticket. Yeah.

553
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I sort of backed off as well. I'll follow up

554
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: with whatever I do. I do need to go because

555
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: I've I mean, we can't get into this. The other

556
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: thing is right now. It is my job and I

557
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: have I need to get back to Sam on this,

558
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: but it is my job to get tickets for Sam

559
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: to see Hi. I am in Madison Square Garden and

560
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. George is

561
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: our official recreations event planner, and I did find tickets

562
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: text about them. But yeah, I weirdly, Oh, I actually haven't.

563
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've told you this, Sam, But

564
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: like so, I have always liked time like unlike you,

565
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: I never had to forgive them. He did last year. Yeah,

566
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: I famously had to forgive them what happened. Sam first

567
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: didn't like them, and they went to see them at

568
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: a very early show at Le Poisson Rouge in New York.

569
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: It was like France in Paris um and they were

570
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: like really annoying and it was like a really annoying show.

571
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: And so I forever after that was like fuck them.

572
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: And I truly was like every song that came out,

573
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I was like angry about it. And then they stuck around,

574
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: stuck around, and then Women in Music Part three came out,

575
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I actually love this

576
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: and I forgive them. Whereas I always liked them, but

577
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: recently I would say I have I literally listened to

578
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: them all day long in a way that I have.

579
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think there's they're just the

580
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: right level of easy listening, no offense to them. They're

581
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: very talented, but it's not challenging music, like you really

582
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: can kind of put it on totally and to me,

583
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: but it's not brain dead, it's not it's not like

584
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: it's just down the middle enough. And I have truly

585
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: become their number one fan. I listened to them all

586
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: day well. They say there are two kinds of people

587
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: in this world. There's people who have always loved Hime

588
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: and people who were mad at them but like them again,

589
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: and every good couple. It's true. And I also, like

590
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: I think we talked about like, Dave, did you see

591
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: like Rish Pizza? Um No, I haven't yet. It's I've

592
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: literally gotten the screener and I have seven DVDs of it. Yeah,

593
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I just haven't sat down and watched it yet, but

594
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I would like to do. Was it good? It's it's

595
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not like my favorite pal Times interest movie,

596
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: but it's definitely good. But more importantly, the Hymes are

597
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: so charming in it, all of them. Yeah, it's amazing.

598
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it. It feels like like casting

599
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, and it feels like they wouldn't

600
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: have cast her for like the stunt of it all,

601
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: like she must have really fit the role. And yeah,

602
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: yeah she really, I really, I was really impressed and

603
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: honestly very suppriseding good nomination. But anyway, um wait, I

604
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: have something I want to bring up. Yes, bring it up. Okay,

605
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: so we're all gay guys, we can agree on that

606
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: at least. Um Okay, but Dave, I actually feel like

607
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: me talking about hating him. I feel like you're not

608
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: much of a hater, Like do you have like any

609
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: do do pop girls ever make you mad? Or are

610
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: you like a lover of all? Um? I believe I

611
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: am an EmPATH in that I can find a way

612
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: to understand the story and of any female artist, even

613
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: if they're like truly tragic. I'm just can find a

614
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: way into understanding how they got there. I mean, from

615
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Iggy Azalea to Rita Hora to Babe Rex. I just

616
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I know who these girls are. I think, and um,

617
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't like to leave anyone alone at the lunch table.

618
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: I really do think you're EmPATH. Colon Pop Diva Edition,

619
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: I think you're an EmPATH only for Pop Diva, I

620
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: think I still I'll just I mean, Britney is a

621
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: huge part of my story. Like when I was a kid,

622
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: I was truly blocking my homosexuality with what I thought

623
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: was sexual attraction and to Britney spears like she was

624
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: the my only um And then the fall from Grace,

625
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: I really felt responsible for it in so many ways that, um,

626
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: I just don't want that to happen to anybody else.

627
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: By my hand. So I just sort of I just

628
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: sort of feel like I just want the best for everybody.

629
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: If Kesha likes what she's doing right now and she's happy,

630
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm living. I don't care if she looks like a

631
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: dumpster or like like she's actually she looks great now,

632
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: but like the like I don't know, like DEMI, like,

633
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that DEMI like that they are going

634
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: through like this change and that they're happy, and that

635
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: they're like on social media being happy. Like I don't

636
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: want anything for them other than happiness, Like that's I

637
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: don't need any to make anything more music if she

638
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want to just like live your life, be happy. Yeah,

639
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: it's it is very impressive, even when you reference like

640
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: bb Rex and all these people play Jesse j all

641
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: these people that I feel like are the butts of

642
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: jokes around here. Yeah yeah, I mean I'm definitely singing

643
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: those jokes. Can you sing a bb rexa song right now? No?

644
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: Because if there was a gunway ahead is good? I'm like, no,

645
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: I guess I can sing one lyric of she has

646
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: one right already now called sacrifice. It's like, so would

647
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: you sacrifice? You know? What's so funny. She's like one

648
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: of the people being considered for the Madonna biopic. How

649
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: funny would it be? Yeah, have you guys talked about

650
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: this camp that they're all in. No, but let's let's

651
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: get into it. They're they're in a camp. They're in

652
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a boot camp to like get this role. I don't

653
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: who who is in it. It is Julia Gardner, Florence Pew,

654
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: Alexa de mei uh, and various other girls that I

655
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: don't know. There's one called Odessa something who I've ever

656
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: heard of, But I think those are the main ones,

657
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: and I think maybe Julia Garner is like the front runner. Wow,

658
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: that should be a show like I want the like

659
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Search for El Blonde, sort of like behind the scenes

660
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: of this boot camp. I can't. I like love it

661
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: so much. It makes me feel like there's still magic

662
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: in the world, like I know. But then on the

663
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: other hand, it is all of them are being like

664
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: it's an abusive environment. Oh, I know what should have

665
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: known you has gone too far? No, I feel never

666
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: truly like I don't even want to know what it

667
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: would be like for Madonna herself to be running the

668
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Madonna biopic boot camp with these poor girls who have

669
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: already been exploited in various ways in their short lives.

670
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I want to like Todemi to get it just because

671
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: just because it for her, she deserves it. I've seen

672
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't watch you for it, but I have seen

673
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: that clip where she goes, I know no one wants

674
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: me here because I'm ahore. Yes, wait, you don't want

675
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: you for you? Are you actively resisting mainstream culture again?

676
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean I do. I mean Sam and I've talked

677
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: about this, but I've watched. I watched like the first

678
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: three or four episodes. I couldn't it was two. Here's

679
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: what I think it is. I think it's like each

680
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: episode is such an experience that you can't really binge

681
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: watch it. I couldn't really, I've only watched. There was

682
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: one day when I was stuck in Chilia, I watched

683
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: eight hours of Before My God, and I was happy

684
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: about it, and I wish I could have done more. Well,

685
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: all I'll say is, and I stand by. I really

686
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: think all the actors are great. I think everyone is

687
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: doing such a good job. I think the day it

688
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: is great. I think, but I just somehow it's like

689
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: it's one too many things. It feels like sensory overload,

690
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 1: and I the drug stuff stresses me out. I would

691
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: almost like it more if it was just a high

692
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: school drama without drug cartels. The uh, I agree with that. Yeah,

693
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: I mean it is a lot, but I think it's

694
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: just so beautifully done. And also I'm obsessed with the girls,

695
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: all the girls, and all the girls all love all

696
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: the dolls like they're fucking great, and they bounced the

697
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: ball back and forth. So it's so great. Sydney Sweenie

698
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: is so Sydney's great. Hunter Shaffer is great. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Hunter is amazing. Yeah. Everyone everyone listening to the pot

700
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: You should listen to this. You should watch the show.

701
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: You for it. You know. Sydney Sweeney was also in

702
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the running, but I think got eliminated from I would

703
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen that lip sync euphoria triggering

704
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: for me because of the high school at all. That

705
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what the what my topic is about? Like, yeah,

706
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: let's get into the topic. Let's let it. Okay, So

707
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: so your topic, well, why don't you introduce it and

708
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: then say kind of why you think it is straight

709
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: or emblematic of straight culture. Okay, my topic is handshakes. Um,

710
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: and I think it is representable. When I think of handshakes,

711
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: I think of a very specific thing. I think of

712
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: middle school, when everyone started to in the hallways, uh,

713
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: like greet each other and do performative displays of friendship.

714
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: It just started to become like, oh, we hug when

715
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: we see each other, we do like a little like

716
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: handshakes sort of like dat moment, like all the boys

717
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: on football or like all the guys here, and like

718
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I used to have massive anxiety about how to engage

719
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: in the handshake. I just never really knew like what

720
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: the combination was, like what the pattern was. Um, no

721
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: one ever rehearsed it with me. I didn't know if

722
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: there was like a memo that went out. Uh. And

723
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: so that was like where the trauma behind handshakes really

724
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: started for me. And then as I grew older, I

725
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: just realized that like a firm handshake was so specific

726
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: to a certain kind of straight dude, like a really

727
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: hard sort of like meat grab. Yeah, just like and

728
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I also started to notice weaker handshakes in certain in

729
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: certain personality types. It was like, this is a this

730
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: is a form of body language that like involves touching

731
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: it's more than just seeing and men use it to

732
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: assert dominance and display like confidence in a way that

733
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable. Yeah. I the firm handshake thing really

734
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: weirds me out, Like it feels so old school, like

735
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: truly you want to like almost hurt the person's hand

736
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: to like show that you are strong. It's like this

737
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: is like so weird. When I was a little kid,

738
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: like my parents were like, you're not shaking your hand,

739
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: like you're not doing it right, like they had like

740
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: they were like like I remember them being like firm

741
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: and look at the man in the eyes and I

742
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: was like okay, okay, and like like it was so

743
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: like this is such a weird thing. I guess it's important.

744
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Like didn't like my uncle's are I'm Italian and my

745
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: whole family is very like touchy and like it's so

746
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: interesting to see like my uncle I give a handshake

747
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: to somebody and then when he sees me just coming

748
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: and give me a kiss square on the lips, like yeah,

749
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: like little it's a little sort of like peck of

750
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: like hi, yeah, like like and it's like so it

751
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: is feels like not gay at all. It feels extremely heteroic. Yeah, um,

752
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: and I just feel like the greetings amongst men sort

753
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: of like the way that they differ. It's totally but

754
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying I have, So I like

755
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: kind of during this time, I would say, what like

756
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: early middle school, let's say, when everyone started doing these handshakes.

757
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: I was this is before we moved back, so I

758
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: was living in New Jersey at the time, kind of

759
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: a straight mecca in in many ways, and I remember

760
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: it so well where somehow overnight you were supposed to

761
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: know these these like handshakes that everyone was doing, or

762
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: someone would like, I mean this is you know, if

763
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: you're listening, you can't see what I'm doing, but like

764
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: someone would like put their hand up and like go

765
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: like like this, and you were supposed to know that

766
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: then you were to you should put your palm down

767
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: so that you could do like a high five or something.

768
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: Did you ever like go up with like I feel

769
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: like there were so many times where I would be

770
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: I would give a high five and like there was

771
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be some sort of interlock exact change, and

772
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know, and I was always like quietly like, oh,

773
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: I would have totally done more of the hand stuff

774
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: I kind of note of we had talked. God. Yeah,

775
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: it's like it is an early memory of being like,

776
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: oh I don't have the instinct. Yeah, and like also

777
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: girls to like I don't know, I just feel like

778
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: I remember all the girls like giving these sort of

779
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: like weird one armed hugs with like a little like

780
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: von Dutch like like like bag or like a little

781
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: duny in Burke like shoulder bag, and like giving the

782
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: sort of like like holding a binder in one hand,

783
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: like sort of like a one arm hug, and like

784
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I was good at those. Yes, the handshakes felt like

785
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: you were set up to fail. Like sometimes I didn't

786
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: feel like everyone knew. I just felt like the people

787
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: that really embraced them were like kind of being mean.

788
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: There were the alpha is that defined the hands shake,

789
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: and then the vetas that had to like catch up

790
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: and the handshake. The handshake could change overnight and you

791
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: would have to like keep up otherwise the alpha would

792
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: humiliate you. Absolutely. It was absolutely like sort of like um,

793
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: just distribution of information that's selective and like malicious, And

794
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, well, this go on forever. I'm so

795
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: happy that it reduced down to just just a normal handshake, Like,

796
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm so happy in adulthood that we've we've sort of

797
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: like just brought it down to like how hard is

798
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: the grip? Yeah, there's real. I still sometimes you'll meet

799
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: a strake and they'll still do the middle school handshake.

800
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Do you not experience this experience like sort of like

801
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: the grab in the pool exactly exactly, ye, yeah, the

802
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: grab in the chest and then you're like whoa. And

803
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: then like also the like pat on the back sometimes.

804
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: Do you ever see the episode of Will and Grace

805
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: where they do like the the three pats on the back.

806
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not gay, the interlock pinding something back in,

807
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm not getting three. Yeah. Sometimes I find myself when

808
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I hug someone doing the batpack and I'm like, oh,

809
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: don't do that. The backpack is is internalized homophobia. It

810
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: really is, and stilled within me. It could be actual too,

811
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: if we just been a little further with it, it

812
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: could be so nice. But the moments where, yeah, the

813
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: moments where you instinctively suddenly the part of you from

814
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: when you were thirteen comes out that wants to be

815
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: straight or what you like, and you suddenly find yourself

816
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: like deepening your voice on the phone, or something that

817
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: you haven't done in years, like wanting to buy a

818
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Sewan John shirt exactly. Yeah, there's something about that where

819
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: it's like it happens with that you're realizing getting like

820
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: the body remembers that trauma is still there. Yeah. I

821
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: feel like physical trauma is also an element of straight culture,

822
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: just like uh, sort of like being bound up in

823
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: like physical having physical responses that are just like that. Also,

824
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: another another topic that I was going to bring up

825
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: was acts body spray because I'm thinking about high school.

826
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever? Did you guys? I mean briefly,

827
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was like I kind of thought that

828
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: was I mean, then it became a yeah, yeah, Like

829
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know, it just felt somehow adult.

830
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: It did. Yeah, it was. It was the only playing

831
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: up like the sleek black branding. I love man branding.

832
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: When it's like sandal wood, it is better, I mean ultimately,

833
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: like it is just simply more empowering than than anything

834
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: they've done for women. Like all male branding is like, well,

835
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: you're the king of the forest, whereas women branding, it's

836
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: like you might think you're disgusting, but actually you're fine, Yeah,

837
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: life is really hard, but take a delight exactly. Yeah,

838
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: it's just gaslighting. It's like you might every everywhere you

839
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: look people think you're disgusting, But when you're at home,

840
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: that's your time to shine, your time to think you're disgusting.

841
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: Um wait, I have in the handshake conversation, I want

842
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: to know what your guys preferred like physical greeting is.

843
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'm a hugger. I go right in.

844
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: Um Like, it also depends on on Like in post COVID,

845
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more like I think there's I

846
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: feel like in post COVID like it's a very subtle

847
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: leaning in where both people do it. Then you go

848
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: in for the hug, but you're actually waiting. It's not

849
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: even about like vibe anymore. It's literally about like are

850
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: you with this? Sort of like are you? But I

851
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: prefer hug. I go right in my default as a hug,

852
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I would say. And then of course in Greece everyone

853
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: does the two kisses, and I would say, my favorite

854
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: kind of greeting is meeting kind of like a glamorous

855
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: middle aged Greek woman who gives you the two kisses

856
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: and you can smell her like expensive perfume, and you're like, wow, wow,

857
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: that does sound fun. I like, I like the two kisses.

858
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: It's very very cute. And um, I went to Greece

859
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: this plast summer. I was talking to George about it.

860
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: It gives like two kisses makes sense. There you're in

861
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: a beautiful voice. It's just nice. It's also like, then,

862
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: I think what ends up happening in Greece is like

863
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: you do two kisses with women and then you do

864
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: a normal handshake with men, and then sometimes men will

865
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: go in for two kisses and you just have to

866
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of adapt. But it's like, you know, it's so funny,

867
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: so much happens in one second and then it's just over.

868
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: But there is such thing as a good a good

869
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: greeting and a bad greeting, and it just always it

870
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: happens with every single person. Like and then I went

871
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: to this girl's birthday pray last night. I didn't know

872
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: anybody and was meeting every single person. It's so funny

873
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: how you adjust. Yeah, I one time you Sam, I

874
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: love a hug. I find it tears down the walls

875
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: very quickly in a way that I appreciate. But then

876
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: I have had hugs fully backfire, where like like be like,

877
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: I've made the decision, I'm going to hug you, and

878
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: then it's like oh and they like, you know, just

879
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of stand there. And I did it with one

880
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: um comedian we all know, and I will not say

881
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: her name on this podcast, but I like it was

882
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: mid hug and I was like, what what am I doing?

883
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: And she was not reciprocating, She was not re forgetting

884
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: at all. And I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no,

885
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: no no, I don't want to I just made a choice,

886
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: and I thought this was normal at a birthday party

887
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: and are aboard, aboard, aboard, and it like I think

888
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: about that hug and how bad it was all the time,

889
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: And so honestly, I think sometimes, especially post COVID, I'm

890
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: now like a little standoffish when I meet people in

891
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: a way I don't like like I'll kind of stand

892
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: and like look at them too much to see what

893
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: they're going for, but in a way that makes it

894
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: look like I'm just not trying to interact with them.

895
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: You know. What's one of the most fraught like Okay,

896
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: what am I trying to say? Basically, the greeting between

897
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: a gay man and a straight man will never not

898
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: be fraught. Suddenly, the entire history of the entire history

899
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: of UM, like l g B t Q play equality

900
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: plays out in one second, like yeah, it's like how

901
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: do you how do you how do you make it

902
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: not weird? Because it's if you do anything to make

903
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: it casual, you're being homophobic. Like if you try to

904
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: be like this isn't sexual, then it's like, well, no

905
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: one said it is. You're being weird. And if you

906
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: like don't do anything to do that, it's like, Okay,

907
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: he's obsessed with me and wants to have sex with

908
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: me right now. And then basically what ends up happening

909
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: and this is you know, we've talked before about how

910
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: we love hanging out with straight men and and and

911
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: it's one of the great joys of our lives and ironically,

912
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: but but it's like, basically, what has to happen is

913
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: one of the either the gay man is going to

914
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: bend condescending to the straight man or the straight man

915
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: is going to be condescending to the game. Someone has

916
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: to call someone else buddy, and then finally we feel safe.

917
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: It's like more gracious to let the gay person be condescending.

918
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I feel like it's my right

919
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: to condescend to you, and I think that straight man

920
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: who's interacting with me should know that immediately, exactly know.

921
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: It's like then the gay man can kind of half

922
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: jokingly called the straight man like girl. And then it's like, Okay,

923
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: this is we're getting to a place of equality. We

924
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: are getting to a place of equality. You can call me,

925
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 1: he can call me a little bit if you want,

926
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: but only after he lets me warm him up a

927
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, yeah, let me warm you up a

928
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I want to rip apart sort of like

929
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: his eyebrows and um, mock mock him once or twice,

930
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: and then he can call me fagett. Yeah. The all

931
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: that empathy you uh have for pop stars goes completely

932
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: out the window when you meet a straight man and

933
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: you're just reading them for filth. You're tearing them to shreds.

934
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: It's just not the same. Did they right till the

935
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: World ends? Until each straight man writes a till the

936
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: world their version of till the World ends, I'm just

937
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: not okay. You actually raise a great point. I do

938
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: think potentially something we could instill as a form of

939
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: public service and to fight against toxic masculinity. Is that

940
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: every man when they turn eighteen has to write a

941
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: pop bop. Yeah, it's like the army or whatever. Like

942
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: they are assigned up. They are assigned up an up

943
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: and coming pop star. Let's say Baby Rexa and and

944
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: they have to they have to write an empowerment anthem

945
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: for bb REXA. Oh gosh, yeah that would be I

946
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: would absolutely love to hear a straight man's idea of

947
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: what A and bb REXA like female and them would

948
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: sound like. Yeah, that is actually so funny to think about. Wait,

949
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: I've never thought about do straight men know who Baby

950
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: Rexa is? I mean, do gay men? That's the thing.

951
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: If gay men feel like they don't even know a

952
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: song by her? No do straight men? No? Baby Rexa

953
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah no, she's kind of face list the poor girl.

954
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: But no, she's blonde. She's like very symmetrical. Um, she

955
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: likes jewel tones and tattoos. I don't know. That's all

956
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: I know about her. She doesn't really have Like somebody

957
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: once told me that a pop star uh like really

958
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: takes on. It doesn't matter with it, like, as long

959
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: as their voice is singular like even if it's bad

960
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: like Selena Gomez or like whatever, like when you if

961
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: when you hear it you know who it is, it

962
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: will sell totally and and I can't tell if something is. Yeah,

963
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is like there is she sounds

964
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: like so many people where it's like somebody like Halls Halsey,

965
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: who like maybe doesn't have like the same sort of

966
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: vocal chops that Babie may or may not have, Like

967
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: she can sell records and have an identity because we

968
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: can hear her like throaty, sort of like husk like

969
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: like right away incredible, incredible. Makes you think these Halls

970
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: these one where I'm like people do that's just a

971
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: me blind spot. I think I really don't know her deal. Yeah,

972
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: I do think Halsey though, is And I've been known

973
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: to occasionally listen to this song bad at Love by Halsey.

974
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Yea honestly great, great track. It

975
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: is good. It was a great good But I do

976
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: put these little white girls on hip hoppy and like

977
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: just it's it's good. Halsey is definitely like the song

978
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: playing at the Halsey, I'm sorry to say, is a

979
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: straight is a straight culture. She can be a whole

980
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: topic for sure. She's from New Jersey, but like I

981
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: thought she's European. I thought she was like I thought

982
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: dead as she was from like the Middle East. Also

983
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: her name is Ashley, which is an anagra. Yeah, my god,

984
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: uh huh. And she's from like New Jersey. She's like

985
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: from around the corner from where the Jonas brothers are from.

986
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: So much culture from New Jersey. I know New Jersey

987
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: that that would never be another great topic. Wow, do

988
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: do we feel we got to the bottom of handshakes?

989
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm like I feel for for me, Like when when

990
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned straight culture, the first thing I thought of

991
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: was this one kid in middle school and he used

992
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: to wear I used to want to do everything that

993
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: he did, and handshake was always the thing I wanted

994
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: the most. It was like sort of like do you

995
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: ever touch knees with somebody under the table, Like do

996
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: you remember that physical contact with men when I was

997
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: younger was so important to me? No, you're absolutely right,

998
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: you know you are right. I was like pining for

999
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: it at all times, yet somehow thinking that I was

1000
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: in love with Britney Spears too. It's so gay. My

1001
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: existence is so gay. It is crazy, Like it's something

1002
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: that you kind of have to just like block out.

1003
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: But it is crazy to like, puberty is already traumatic

1004
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: if you are literally like have all the privilege in

1005
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: the world, you know what I mean. Like it's it's

1006
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: like to be going through an experience of realizing you're

1007
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: different while all so just objectively going through puberty is insane.

1008
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: I haven't heard the word puberty in a long time,

1009
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: and I hated hearing it just I know it is

1010
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: one of the bad words. Yeah, it's a really really

1011
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: nasty word. Yeah, I just remember, like it's just like digres,

1012
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: like where did you guys go through puberty? Like early,

1013
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: I went at the exact right time. I think I

1014
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: was a little late, I would say I was a

1015
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: little late. I also I think I was young for

1016
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: my grade, so not too young, but like on the younger.

1017
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: And so I think I felt like many people are

1018
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: going through it before I was, Oh my god, puberty,

1019
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: it's such an ugly word. It's terrible. I also feel

1020
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: like that even looked like I went through puberty until

1021
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: like after college. Yeah, it also did feel like something

1022
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: some people are going through more puberty than others, you know,

1023
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yeah, I'm like growing in the

1024
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: proper way. But it's like I'm not that guy who

1025
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: if suddenly has like a full chest of hair. Oh

1026
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: my god, the hair, and I feel like Georgia Greek.

1027
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you would well avenged write yeah, like

1028
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: right now I'm covered in hair. But but that took

1029
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: a while. It took a while with a com let

1030
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: me tell you. Yeah, that's nice. I love the hair,

1031
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I've grown to I've grown to

1032
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it. But you know, it's a process. Yeah, I

1033
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: mean it takes me like six months to grow beird.

1034
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: So it's like I envy the options. You have so

1035
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: many options. Yeah, I do have options, but I also

1036
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: have spent so much money on electrolysis as a hairy chest,

1037
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: but keep going. Sorry, I don't have one either. I

1038
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: don't have one either. It's so scragging and silly. It

1039
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: would like it would so complete the look for me,

1040
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: like like me on the beach with a big hairy

1041
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: chest is like it would be so perfect. I am,

1042
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: I am. It is not like I do wonder sometimes

1043
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: if not I would. I don't feel in any way

1044
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: like masculine because of being Harry. But I do wonder

1045
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: if I wasn't, if I would somehow have a complex

1046
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: about like you know what I mean, like because you

1047
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: associate hair with like masculinity. Sure, sure, sure don't know.

1048
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I associate not giving a funk about it with masculine. Yeah, yeah,

1049
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Well should we do our final segments? Oh my god,

1050
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: that is crazy, I guess is insane to think, insane

1051
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: to think we arrived here. It actually is crazy. Well,

1052
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: our final segment is called shoutouts, and in a homage

1053
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: to the Grand tradition, we give a shout out to

1054
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: anything that we enjoy, sort of in the style of

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00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: its You know, two thousand one, you're at TRL and

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Times Square shouting out to your squad back home. So

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I have one. I do

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: have one? Okay, you should go first, and I need

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: to think of one. Um, okay, that's up. Freaks and

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: losers and perverts and nobody's had nothing. What's happening. It's

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Speaker 1: sam uh And I just want to give a huge

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00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: since your shout out to the Kanye Netflix documentary. I

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00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: started watching this last night, and let me tell you,

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00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: it is touching. Yeah, I am so moved. I forgot

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00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: how much. I mean, I you know, everyone will want

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00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: to murder me after this episode because I've admitted that

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I do not vote, and now I have an admitting

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: that I love Kanye West, and it's really hard for

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: me to let go of that love. And seeing this

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: early documentary about like the early career, it's really like

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: bringing me back and being like, oh wow, this is

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: why I care so much about him, and it's he's

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: he's incredible or was and I wish he were mentally sound,

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: and um my heart goes out to him. And I

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00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: love this documentary. Watch it and learn some freaking context,

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00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: you dumb pieces of ship. Um incredible, I mean, you know, okay,

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00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm going to think of something and and

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00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: just I want to do is great. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I really well, you know I heard At first, I

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh Netflix, it's Netflix, right. Yeah. At first,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Netflix, they haven't released anything good since,

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, literally House of Guards. But I heard that

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01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: this was a documentary that they bought, so it was

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: made with it like, it was not made by Netflix.

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01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: And so now I am trigued and I want to

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: and I want to watch it? Okay, Well I can

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: attempt something. Okay, Um, what's up? Ye a little? The

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Speaker 1: Little Georgina's my fan army stand by me every time

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01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I say something prerogative. How would I give a quick

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: shout out to the actress Patricia Arqutt. I recently started, actually,

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: on the recommendation of one of our discordistas, I started

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: watching Severance, the series on Apple TV, directed by Ben Stiller,

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: and first of all, I'm loving it. But second of all,

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: everyone is very good in it. And Patricia Arkett, you know,

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: she looks incredible. Say it. She looks so good. She

1096
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: looks great with gray hair. She always turns it out.

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Despite never being at a level of you know, certain

1098
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: of her other peers who have, um, these giant followings,

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: I feel like she's underrated. Um. I kind of love

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: that she is. I feel like the type of person

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: who would you know, kind of have a T shirt

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: that said still with her. But I celebrate that to

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: the end of the world and back. And I wouldn't

1104
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: have it any other way. So here's what I'll say.

1105
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: Let's put that bitch in the Marvel Cinematic universe. And also,

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said the b Award. It actually felt

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: really disrespectful, and I apologize to an art head and

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: I really actually I actually go bad for saying and

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Incredible an apology, we may shout out and

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: an apology, and you've got her in the Superhero movie

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: so that she can be nominated for Best Actress in

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: the Superhero Movie in the exactly I mean, she'd be great.

1113
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I want to see her as the best nominee for

1114
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: girly films. Yeah, I agree, I agree. She has such

1115
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: a presence on screen you forget and because she's playing

1116
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: basically a villain, she's like in the position of power

1117
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: at the Shadowy Company, and and she's so good at that. Anyway, Well, Dave,

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Speaker 1: whenever you're ready, feel free to hit us with a

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: shout out. Okay, I want to give First of all,

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Speaker 1: I want to say a big hello to all of

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01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: the Georgina's that I'm now learning our George's fan base.

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: I want to say high specifically to the Georgina's wherever

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: they are. Um, and I want to give a huge

1124
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: shout out to I guess I'll follow the suit here

1125
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: and I'll say what I've been watching, which is the

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Speaker 1: Gilded Age, specifically carry con Yes, carry Coon in the

1127
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Gilded Age. Girl, you are crushing it. I have never

1128
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: had so much fun from the seat of my couch.

1129
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: I live for the feathers in your hat and the

1130
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: money in your pocket. You are beautiful, Solui and icon.

1131
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: I think Christine Baranski is also giving I want to

1132
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: give the Guilded Age just a big uplause. I want

1133
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: to give Telsey cast thing just standing ovation for giving

1134
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 1: all these Broadway actors a job. And also, of course

1135
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: Christine Baranski giving her the opportunity to be slightly racist,

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: but then not because she has a heart and is

1137
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: warm and we get to grow with her on that

1138
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: that well, Don Blessed noticeably absent from that, shout out

1139
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: something on next time. Um, I forgot all about the

1140
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Georgina Stan Army there come for me so hard. Um,

1141
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge them. They're very vicious, grew, They're vicious,

1142
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: and they're toxic and I and at every point, much

1143
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: like Nicki Minaje, I encourage them to be as toxic

1144
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: as possible. Yeah, they're all they're all also barbs. That's

1145
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: like they are. It's like barbs. Georgina it's a circle. Well, Dave,

1146
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: this has been such a delight's thanks for having me,

1147
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: thanks for doing and doing it. Yeah, it's been a blast.

1148
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and I'm off to go have some

1149
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: runch now. Although it's what they so I guess I'm

1150
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna go have some just proper dinner. But I can

1151
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: to think about how I'm going to touch everyone before

1152
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: I do it. Yeah, I'm sure you'll find a classy way,

1153
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: the classy but manly but still feminista way to do

1154
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: it for the girlies. We do. We do it all

1155
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: for them. Can I sell you something? The other day?

1156
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: You know how I had been on the podcast, I've

1157
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: been saying Girlina's and then I was like, I was,

1158
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: I truly in my mind convinced myself I invented it.

1159
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: And then I remember no, I heard Catherine say it.

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: Like in my mind, I was like, Wow, it's crazy

1161
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: that I invented Girlina. It's like, no, I really didn't. Well, yeah,

1162
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: everything everything is borrowed, not everything. Nothing's original. You think

1163
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: your original? But no, I apologize to the little Georgina's.

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh anyway, Yeah, well then I guess goodbye guy. Happy

1165
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: Lord's Day, Happy Lord's Day, I guess goodbye the beat

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: and the d