1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm Buzznight and welcome to the Taken a Walk Podcast. Now, 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: if you are a fan of the Taken a Walk Podcast, 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: we asked that you spread the good word. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Tell all your. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Friends about it, and you can find us certainly on 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts, 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: follow us, share it, leave your reviews. 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: We love if you could spread the good word. 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, today, I'm honored to have a topic here Bruce 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Springsteen that is near and dear to my heart. And 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: I've got the author of this beautiful photography book called 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Spirit in the Light, James Fuller. Welcome to the Taking 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: a Walk Podcast. It's a beautiful book. Oh my god, 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: I love it. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Thank you, Buzz. It's great to be here. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: And it was a labor of love or something that 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: sat in a box for fifty years and now has 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: come out into the light. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Nice Spirit in the Light. 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: It covers nineteen seventy three to nineteen seventy five, right. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Right, just a brief two year period when Bruce was 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: between his second album and Born to Run. 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Pretty rich period for Bruce Springsteen fans. 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk to James Fuller about spirit in 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the light. 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: After we take this quick break and we'll be right 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: back Taking a Walk. 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: James Fuller, Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 3: Thanks man, it's great to be here. 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to let you escape our opening question. 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: And I have a feeling I know what the answer is, James. 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: If you could take a walk with someone, who would 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: you take a walk with and where would you take 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: that walk? 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: Wow? 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't prepared for this, but actually actually not Bruce Okay, yeah, 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: actually probably someone like Clarence Clements and to get his 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: side of the story of what thing were like, sort 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: of behind the scenes, because there's a lot of information 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: about Bruce out there, lots of interviews, lots of you know, 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: I sort of feel like I know where he's coming from. 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good. 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: And Clarence the big man, Oh my god, I mean 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: I love that. Jake Clemens is certainly now still you know, 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: carrying the torch for Clarence. 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: But boy, don't we miss Clarence every day? 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: Right, big shoes to fill. But yeah, he played an 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: important role. 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: So James, what is your line of work? 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: I know you're not, by nature a full time photographer, 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: is that correct? 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: True. I was a teacher for many years. I'm retired now, 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: and teaching is all about words, and I taught middle 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: school most of the years, and students were like in 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: my face all the time, and I loved it, just 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: loved the job. But summers were really a nice time 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: to get away and do something different. Allowed me to 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: work on things without words, without people, photography. So I 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: was a photographer early on and gradually moved along from 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: taking pictures of Bruce to doing large format landscape photographs, 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: cloth over the head, that whole kind of thing. 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: So do you recall the first time that you personally 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: connected with Springsteen's music. 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, my ear was to the ground. I was always, 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: you know, going to concerts and trying to look for 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: the next big thing. I was up at a small 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: college in upstate New York, Hobart College, and freshman fall 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: concert was supposed to be John Sebastian. He got sick 70 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: at the last second, and then posters went up around 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: campus and they advertised an unknown recording artist named Bruce Springsteen. 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: I'd heard of just a little bit about him. So 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: I got the theater half an hour early, and I 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: got front row seats because there wasn't much demand at 75 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: the time. The place eventually filled up and within a 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: few minutes of Bruce taking a stage, I knew this 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: was it, this was the next big thing. 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Did you have camera in tow at that moment? 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: I did. I almost always had my camera in tow 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: back then, my thirty five millimeter Canon FTV. So I 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: took a role of film that night developed him. And 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, the lighting back in the early days and 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: Brus's whole performance was a little bit the lighting was 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: weak and had basic stage lighting in one spotlight. It 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: was fun to see through the years how he increased 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: the lighting and did different things with lighting, and how 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 3: he responded to that because they brought in a lighting 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: director to make more dramatic lighting, using fills and things 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: like that. Suddenly he was being more dramatic and I think, 90 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, encouraged by. 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: That, and as we understand, over time, ticulously fanatical about 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: the details, whether it be the lighting, the staging, the 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: whole sound. 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: From every aspect of a venue. 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: As you sort of reflect on this from seeing that 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: first show to the way it's become what do you 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: think of Bruce and that you know, just fixation for excellence. 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just went to the Archives celebration, the Springsteen 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Archives celebration of the fiftieth anniversary Born to Run, and 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: they showed a film of the making of jungle Land, 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: and you think that boy, that'd be fun to watch, 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: but it wasn't because he was so relentless in his 103 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: quests for excellence. And the thing I remember most about 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: is I'm saying again again again to the band members 105 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: to try different things and keep going. So there are 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: actually two sides to Bruce, the stage foreman side where 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: he's you know, all out fun and just a joyous 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: and moving experience. But then you can see from those 109 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: films how hard he worked to get the sound right 110 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: for each thing. 111 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: So we've had a few photographers of rock on the 112 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: taking a walk. We had a couple of visits with 113 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: our dear friend, the great Henry Dilts, who's an amazing 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: photographer without question. 115 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: Elliott Landy as well. 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar with Elliott, but but 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: had Elliott on and Lynn Goldsmith actually too at her on. 118 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: So when you think about your style and what people 119 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: can look forward to seeing in your beautiful book Spirit 120 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: in the Light, how would you define your style. 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think I was in the right place at 122 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: the right time that he was pretty much unknown these 123 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: years that I photographed him, and so I could get 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: quite close, usually front row. At one point the manager, 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Mike Apell even sent me up on stage with I 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: was taking pictures up there behind all the equipment and 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: all the wires and all that going on, and then 128 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: suddenly I was grabbed by two roadies and thrown off stage. 129 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: They said to me, Bruce doesn't want anybody on stage 130 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: when he's up there. But you know, Bruce is uh, 131 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, his quest for excellence really put pressure on me. 132 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: When I was thinking about bringing out this book. I 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: didn't want to do something that was less than the 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: best I could do, and so I spent a lot 135 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: of time and a lot of money getting everything done 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: just right. So I felt a little bit like Bruce 137 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: in that, you know, I wanted it to be as 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: good as it could possibly be. So I had the 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: negatives on drum scan by Mark Doyle Akellor and and 140 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: then I had a designer brought into it an elegant 141 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: look and went to a printer a duo tone printing 142 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: which really makes the prince pop. So I did as 143 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 3: best I could. 144 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: You certainly did. 145 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Now did you have to be in contact or were 146 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: you in contact with you know, John Landau or the 147 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, the Springsteen organization. 148 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: No, you know they you know they're they're not all 149 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: that accessible. You know. Everything I did, I was in 150 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: a public performance, so it's sort of fair game, and 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: I just wanted to do the best I could with 152 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: it and honor this period of time because I feel 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: like this period of time has been a little bit neglected. 154 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: There's no recording of the East Street Band when they 155 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: had David Sanchez, incredible piano player, and it just had 156 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: a little different feel to it, and thinking back in 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: those days, I wanted to try to preserve some of 158 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: that visually, at least hoping that someday that maybe one 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: of those conc tapes come out. 160 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: But you aren't curious to see what what Bruce would 161 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: think of it. 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: Uh, Well, I've had a friend who has a connection 163 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: and sent it to him and I'm just waiting waiting 164 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: for the word. So hopefully someday I'll hear from him. 165 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I mean, he's he's gotta you know, love 166 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: it being you know as he is, and artists often 167 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: are not always you know, so respectful of the historical 168 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: aspect of things, you know, artists like Bruce or you know, 169 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: re releasing things or unearthing things. 170 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: So I have to think this would this would speak 171 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: to him. 172 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I would hope. So I hope, you know, 173 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: bring back some some fond memories when you know, he 174 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: was really working to make himself known and the record 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: company was threatening to drop him, and so every show 176 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: seemed to be like his life depended on it. And 177 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: he's continued that spear through all the years since. 178 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's the last show, right, like 179 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: like you know, I'm going to play it like like 180 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: this is it, you know, even though it's not it 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: that that mentality which you have to admire. Now, was 182 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: this just taken from the Hobart show The Spirit and 183 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: the Light or where it was a series of shows obviously? 184 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, interesting because he came as a total unknown 185 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: and by then and I they gave him three encres 186 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: at a time when encores were not standard, and and 187 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: they brought him back a little more than a year later, 188 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: and those shows you can see the improvements in the 189 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: lighting and the photographs really start to pop and Brice 190 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: gets much more dramatic, more hand gestures, plays off Clarence 191 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: Clemens more. It's just becomes a much more polished and 192 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: exciting act. And then he came back one more time 193 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: for this is a small theater in upstate New York 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: for the second show with the Born to Run tour. 195 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: He was supposed to rehearse there for a week to 196 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: get this show ready to go, so there was some 197 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: connection to that theater that he seemed to like. So 198 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: he did you know, the recording of the album took 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: longer than they thought, but so I had to cancel 200 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: the rehearsals, but he honored coming back for one the 201 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: third show there, and just within two years. 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Now, I saw him for the first time at Ohio 203 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: U in Athens on the Born to Run tour and 204 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. The memories are incredible of it. And 205 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: one memory that sticks out for seeing him on that 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: show and that tour was the crowd stood up pretty 207 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: much the entire show, as I recall, it was that 208 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: true at the Hobart show. 209 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: Well, the first show, I would say, you know, wasn't 210 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: an enthusiastic audience at first, but you got feel and 211 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: when he started out with New York City Serenade, just 212 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: Bruce only acoustic guitar and David Sanchez's long piano introduction. 213 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: Suddenly you could just feel it in the room that 214 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: people suddenly sat up and said, whoa, this is something 215 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: really exciting has happened here. And by the end he's 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: finishing with twist and shout and the crowd has stormed 217 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: the stage for a total unknown. 218 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Now did you say earlier that you had been sitting 219 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: on these and done nothing with this work for fifty years. 220 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, my brother was always encouraging me to get these out, 221 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: and he did find Dave marsh but out a concert book, 222 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: and I submitted a few of them, and surprisingly he 223 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: used them. But I was never really happy with how 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: the reproductions in that book, and so I sat sort 225 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: of kept in the back of my mind that maybe 226 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: I should do something because I felt my photographs told 227 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: a story of the evolution of Springsteen days, that he 228 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: went from just a sort of a street punk to 229 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: a dramatic performer to just the very edge of total stardom. 230 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: I knew I had something, something in the box, and 231 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: I didn't realize I had so many good ones because 232 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 3: I just printed a few when I first did them, 233 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: and so when I went back just two years ago 234 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: and started printing all these old negatives, I realized I'd 235 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 3: enough for a book that could could be important historically. 236 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: It's a piece of music history, no doubt. It's it's 237 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful. 238 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: So tell our listeners how they can find your book, 239 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: Spirit in the Light. 240 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I've chosen not to go with the big 241 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: box route and all that. I can't find an Amazon, 242 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: but I do have a website in e commerce website 243 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: it's called Spirit in thelightbook dot com, and you can 244 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: go there and order it and I'll hand package it 245 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: and send it to you. 246 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Well, it's an honor having the book. 247 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: It's an honor speaking to you and hearing your story. 248 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: James Fuller, congratulations on it, and thanks for being on 249 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk. 250 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: Thanks buys, it's been a fun walk. Thank you. 251 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 252 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 253 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 254 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,359 Speaker 2: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 255 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: and wherever you get your podcasts.