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Speaker 1: and Anian, the Car Doctor, since this is where car

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Speaker 1: qualt at eight five five five six nine, And now

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Speaker 1: by the dawnswer what's so proud of Twilightlight's last weeing,

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Speaker 1: Who's brought strives and bright stars through the farrowless fight

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Speaker 1: the freeze and the all of the bray he is running? Hey, welcome,

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Speaker 1: the car Doctor here today on this very special show.

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Speaker 1: I I enjoy every each and every show, spending this

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Speaker 1: time with you, but this time of year, Memorial Day weekend, UM,

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Speaker 1: to make her Junior. There's a Chuck wanna make her senior.

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Speaker 1: Him and his dad um O're way to repair facility

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Speaker 1: interesting couple of guys. We're gonna talk to Junior today

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at zero nine zero zero Again the

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Speaker 1: go out and fly, and sometimes they were combat assaults

430
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 1: and sometimes they were direct combat support where you'd fly

431
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: maybe to a mountaintop to us a Special Forces camp

432
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: and deliver goods or maybe something good like the mail.

433
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: People always ask me, what were they shooting at you?

434
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: Did you get hit? You only know if they're shooting

435
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: at you if you get hit, And I don't mean personally,

436
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean the aircraft. So when you took off and

437
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: you came back from the mission, amount how short of

438
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: how long it was, there was always an a visual

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: inspection that went on between the pilot and the maintenance crew.

440
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: And sometimes hits wouldn't hurt you. If you get it,

441
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: maybe in the fuselage, but if you take around and

442
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: the blades it certainly changed. That changes the aerodynamics of

443
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: the helicopter. So believe me, the pilots were great, but

444
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: the mechanics were even better. We flew with two pilots

445
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: and then there were two door gunners, and one was

446
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: always a full fledged mechanic. So if something happened in flight,

447
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: I guess we could try to fix it, or well

448
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: if if if you if you did take around, I

449
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: mean if you were unlucky enough to take around and

450
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: flight and it hit the engine or the transmission, basically

451
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: in a helicopter, if the next time you look at

452
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: when you can think of it, there's a key word.

453
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: It's called auto rotation. So let's say you take around

454
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're engine quits. The transmission,

455
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: which is really above your head, is a free wheeling system,

456
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: and as you're coming down with no power now the

457
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: air is rushing up through the blades and turning him

458
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: at the same rpm that you would if you had

459
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: the engine. And you go in and you make a

460
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: landing just like you did if had the engine. But

461
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: you have to remember you're only getting one shot at this,

462
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: so there's only one landing, and that's it. If if

463
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: you look back at it now, George, and you know,

464
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: they called you off, forget the age limitation, they called

465
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: you up. Would you go again? No, it's not that

466
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go, and you know, hopefully do

467
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: the cry for freedom and everything. But one of the

468
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: things that when I think back, and it's interesting, I

469
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: list last Wednesday May, I went to Vietnam fifty years ago,

470
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: and I think to myself, I'm seventy three now, I

471
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: was a twenty three year old kid who had very

472
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: limited hours, and nobody's gonna tell me I could do

473
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: anything with that machine. You want me to go out

474
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, we would land to

475
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: a flashlight on the side of the hill and just

476
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: hope it was an American on the other side holding it.

477
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Would I go to the friend feed and fine? But

478
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean some of the things as I look back,

479
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: I think when you're young and nai whether it's with

480
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 1: a car, you know, the problems that come out when

481
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: you first get your license or a race car driver.

482
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you look back and say, too, I can't believe

483
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: I did that. And then you came home from Vietnam

484
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: and you end up at w o R flying w

485
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: R seven ten around New York City. How great is that? Yeah?

486
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: That was great because I really wanted to continue flying

487
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: and I I couldn't get a job anywhere, And all

488
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I got a job with an alpha

489
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: call Butler Aviation, which is over La Guadia. They had

490
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: a contract with the old news station in New York

491
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: and I became a helicopter pile and got thrown on

492
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: the air one day and less than a year later,

493
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: April of nineteen sixty nine, I got to go to

494
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: w o R and fly with the great Fred Feldman,

495
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: who was the pioneer and traffic reporting in New York.

496
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: And that was it. Forty years later and I finally

497
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: walked away from the microphone and no regrets. Twenty five

498
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: of the forty years I flew around New York and

499
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: had this special bird's eye view reserve seat for the

500
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: greatest city in the world. And you were known as

501
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: the man who knew the streets. If anybody wanted directions,

502
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: you were the guy to listen to because you knew where.

503
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: You had that bird's eye view. Yeah, I was the

504
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: eye in the sky, and you know I was mr

505
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: GPS long before they ever invented it, and there wasn't

506
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: anything I didn't know about the city. And I think

507
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: that was the magic at w o R when I

508
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: worked with John A. Gambling, he would turn New York

509
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: into a little city. And that's exactly, uh, the integral

510
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: part I played, because we would talk about the streets

511
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: in New York are things that were going on, and

512
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: you would think you were talking about Waldwick, New Jersey. Yeah,

513
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: smalltown USA, right, And that was one of the gifts

514
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: that he always brought to the microphone, and you were

515
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: there with him, um, and then you had some opportunities

516
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: also as an aside, right you were you were in

517
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: the movies afternoon. Any any time there was a movie

518
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: or they wanted to shoot a commercial around New York,

519
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: they'd always come to w o R Radio and neither

520
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: talk to Fred Felman or myself and we were actually

521
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: I actually covered the real events a dog days afternoon

522
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: and that us in uh in Brooklyn during a convention,

523
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: I think with the Democratic Convention down in Miami. We

524
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: broke in as I was doing the afternoon traffic and

525
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: lo and behold. Years later it became a part of

526
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: a movie and yeah, I had a lot of, you know,

527
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: fun things from just taking a helicopter ride early in

528
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: my life. I mean, I did a book George Meets

529
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: New York, or in a couple of movies, and we

530
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: did commercials. So it beat working for a living. And

531
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: you still drive a Buick. Listen, I have two white

532
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: Buicks in my garage and I have four grown children,

533
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 1: eight grandkids, and they all look at me and said, hey,

534
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: there's more of those white cars. And they don't they

535
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: don't know what they are. But as you always told me,

536
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: one of the best engines ever made. Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, George.

537
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, it's been an absolute pleasure. And uh,

538
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, I look back on our days together at

539
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: w R and I laughed and I smile, and I

540
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: was glad to count you as one of the mentors

541
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: that helped bring me along. And um, I've just been

542
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure to have you here today with us.

543
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: We have to look do it again sometime. Yeah, we'll

544
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: do it again sometime. And I appreciate the time to

545
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: do in a Memorial day, and don't just think about

546
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: veterans this time of the year, think about in the

547
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: rest of the year because a lot of people made

548
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifices so we could have the life

549
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: we have, ron So we will see you well see

550
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: thank you George. We appreciate your time and your sentiments

551
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: and we we thank you for your service. Like so

552
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: many others. I'm Ronny in the Car Doctor. We are

553
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: back right after this. Hey, welcome back. Why don't any

554
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. And once again I want to

555
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: thank George mead and for taking the time and out

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: of his weekend, and also Chuck Wanna Maker. We just

557
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: posted up on our Facebook page as far as the

558
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: waldw Car Show by the way, which is Sunday, June five,

559
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: if you're in the wald of New Jersey area, we

560
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: just put up on our run and evening the Car

561
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Doctor facebook page more information about the show. You can

562
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: read all about it there and what it does for

563
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the Walda Community Alliance. Let's get over to the phone

564
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: lines zero nine zero zero, Bob, you're out with the

565
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Car Doctor H five f three fifty. What can I

566
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: do for you? Run? The truck belongs to my brother

567
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: in law. He's been having a trouble with this two

568
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: zero zero five fort f three fifty Super duty. It

569
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: has about a hundred and sixteen thousand on the odometer,

570
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: and he's got an intermittent no crank, no start for

571
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: the last year and a half. He's been getting by

572
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: by jump starting it all this time, and then he'll

573
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: come home and he'll put it on the charger, he'll

574
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: charge the battery back up, and he'll be all right

575
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: for a little while, and then the same cycle repeats itself.

576
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Now I've had a chance to UH load t this

577
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: battery at least twice, and it passed the UH. The

578
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: cable connections on the battery are spotlessly clean. Um. The

579
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: battery voltage across the battery when it's when the engine

580
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: is running is about thirteen eight five volts. Now, I

581
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: know the charging system that I've checked at least twice

582
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: tests out that way, So I'm thinking, what the heck,

583
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: it's got to be a parasitic draw. So a couple

584
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, UH, after I did a lot of

585
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: researching on I took my my digital Vault home meter

586
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: and hooked it up for a parasitic draw test, and UM,

587
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm reading three hundred and fifty milliamps after the courtesy

588
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: lights and whatever else is going on there at times.

589
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: How long are you waiting for the end of this

590
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: stat is gonna be my good question. So let's let

591
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: me tell you. I I waited, uh you know, uh,

592
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: I could tell when the when the courtesy lights went

593
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: up because it was drawing like three quarters of a

594
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: nap after all of those courtesy and dome lights went out.

595
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking there's got to be other things that

596
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: are waiting to go to sleep. I thought I waited

597
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: two or three minutes, good amount of time before everything

598
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: went to sleep, and I'm still seeing three d and

599
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: fifty milliamps. Now I know I want on the fifty

600
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: milliam So, uh, I said John, get in the truck

601
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: and start pulling these fuses one at a time until

602
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: we find what circuit is gonna drop. So we pulled

603
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: all of the fuses. Everyone in the It's got a

604
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: fuse box inside under the dashboard. There's another one under

605
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: the hood. There's there's there's there's two fuse boxes. There's

606
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: one under the hood, one under the dash exactly. But

607
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: but but the other part of this question still becomes,

608
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: how long are you waiting to to judge this draw?

609
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: We we waited about two or three minutes, not not

610
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: nearly long enough. So Ron, here's my question. We pulled

611
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: the F two fuse um, which is labeled in the

612
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: Ford Owners Manual as cluster. That's when we saw the

613
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: the current draw fall off from three fifty to about thirty.

614
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, Okay, something in the cluster here is

615
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: causing this parasitic draw. So Ron, I have these two

616
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: questions written down here for you. The first question is

617
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: did I wait long enough for the circuits to go

618
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: to sleep? I read on the internet that someone suggested

619
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: to wait forty five minutes before everything goes to sleep,

620
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: So then, uh that that begs the question did I

621
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: troubleshooted correctly so far? And my second question is I

622
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: read that there is a battery saver relay on the cluster,

623
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: and is that malfunctioning because I see I'm looking at

624
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: the schematic that I downloaded here, and I see that

625
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: there is a battery saver relay controlled by some sort

626
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: of a microprocessor that exists on I'll tell you what bop.

627
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Sit tight and let me pull over and take this pause.

628
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll answer both of those questions.

629
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car doctor, we're back right

630
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: after this love bad Night, welcome back. We're any of

631
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: the car doctor, Bob you're still there, sir, Yeah, we're

632
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: talking with Bob up. And I believe it's is it

633
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Maine or Massachusetts? Bob? About is oh five f three

634
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: fifty with a drain? Um? Let me get a couple

635
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: of comments in here. First of all, Um, on the

636
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: chance that this is not a dead battery, and I

637
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: just want to say this, okay, that you know, is

638
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: there any sound from the key when you turn it

639
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: or is the vehicle dead? He tells me there's a clickank,

640
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: no crank, no start, okay, so there's an instant response

641
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: whether he puts on a lengthy listening um jump starter

642
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: or a regular jump from another vehicle. I just I

643
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: just want to put it in there that if it's

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Speaker 1: a click but no start, I want to know where

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Speaker 1: that clicks coming from. Is the starter drive getting thrown out?

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Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, I've seen jump starts start starters

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Speaker 1: that have an internal high resistance issue. So I just

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Speaker 1: want to state that maybe this is a starter problem

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Speaker 1: that being said, or a starter circuit related problem. One

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Speaker 1: of the things I would do with all that you've

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Speaker 1: done so far is the solenoid feed is a yellow

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Speaker 1: light blue wire that comes out of the starter relay,

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Speaker 1: out of the battery box under the hood and the

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Speaker 1: battery junction box, and I would put side marker bulb

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Speaker 1: circuit in there. I would set it up set the

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Speaker 1: ball lights. If you turn the key on and that

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Speaker 1: bulb is lit and you get a click that starters

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Speaker 1: got that Starters got juice. The next thing I would

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Speaker 1: do is I would go find a cigarette lighter adapter

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Speaker 1: and set it up so that you can put a

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Speaker 1: volt meter right across it through the cigarette lighter inside

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Speaker 1: the vehicle. When you go to crank it, do you

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Speaker 1: have at least twelve volts twelve and a half faults

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Speaker 1: at the terminal cranking? And you can actually test to

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Speaker 1: see what voltage do you have when the car starts

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Speaker 1: versus what voltage do you have when the car doesn't start.

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Speaker 1: That being said to answer your two direct questions. One,

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Speaker 1: you did not wait long enough. This vehicle requires thirty

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Speaker 1: five to forty five minutes of weight time in order

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Speaker 1: to be sure that the system has powered down that

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Speaker 1: fuse you pulled. Fuse number two actually does is doing

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Speaker 1: just what it's supposed to do. You are putting the

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Speaker 1: instrument cluster and what they call deep sleep, and then

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Speaker 1: at that point you've now bypassed the battery saver relay.

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Speaker 1: So rerun all your tests. You're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: Just wait forty five minutes and see if the draw

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Speaker 1: goes away. If it doesn't, call me back and we'll

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Speaker 1: diagnose from there. But think about that side market bull

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Speaker 1: bishop as that maybe it I'm on any car