1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rob Thompson and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Rubin tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky It's the 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Philly Show. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Guys. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Rob Thompson on Tuesday night at City Field said told 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: reporters it's not the building. And then Kyle Schwarber told 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: our friend of the pod, the Kuala Matt Gel He said, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: I don't give a hell about the stigma. And the 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Phillies though, on Wednesday night lost to the Mets. They've 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: lost ten in a row against the Mets at City Field, 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: pretty unbelievable. Their lead in the National League East is 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: now four. The Phillies have now lost the season tiebreaker 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: to the Mets. So if somehow these teams end up 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: in a tie and the final day of the season 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: the Mets when the division, the Phillies are a wild 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: card team, a lot of craziness. Let's jump right into it. 17 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Parks First Pitch. 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: First Pitch is brought. 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: To us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: number one casino. All right, guys, where do we want 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: to start? 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: Where? Do we want to start with that? I'm ready, 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: I got both barrels open. 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Well, then take the floor, is yours? Give us your 25 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: impressions of what happened at shitty Field. I mean City Field, so. 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, before they went there, and I've sort of 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: held my water on this one, but my feeling has 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: always been I like to read faces and body language 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: and stuff like that when they go and play there. 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: There's no question in my mind that the Mets have 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: great confidence they everything they do, whether they're pitching it, 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: catching it, or hitting it. They play with great confidence 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: in their ballpark. Against the Phillies, they believe in their 34 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: heart of hearts that they're going to win games. 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: The Phillies do not. 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: They don't at least they don't play like it, and 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: they don't look like it on the field, And it's the. 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Only place I ever feel like that's the case. But 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: against the Mets, it's an issue. 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: It's a real issue, and whether you want to believe it, 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: it's the It may not necessarily be City Field, but 42 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: I think it's the uniform that they're playing against, because 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: the Mets have their number. 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: And that's the truth. Now, does this matter in the 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: scheme of things down the road. It might. I mean, 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: there was a time when the Atlanta Braves. 47 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: Had the Phillies number the Marlins, and when and the 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: Marlins and the Atlanta Breaks played in the playoffs and 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: the Phillies beat them, and the Phillies had their number 50 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and the same thing with the Marlins. 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: But it's pretty obvious that for. 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: Whatever reason, I don't know the reason, I wish I 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: did put my finger on it, but it's pretty clear 54 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: that the Mets believe that they can beat the Phillies, 55 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: and the Phillies don't believe that they can beat the Mets. 56 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: They won't tell you that, but I think that the 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: feeling is that they struggle there, and I think they 58 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: know it, and it's palpable. 59 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And it's real and it's good. An adjustment's gonna have 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to be made. 61 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: They're gonna have to figure out a way to turn 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: that mojo around, because right now, mojo ain't there. 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: I thought an adjustment was in the process of being 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: made in game one, when they hold an early lead 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: three nothing, I believe. And you got Christopher Sanchez, who 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: we were just talking about his ascension to close to 67 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: being in number one and he catches a Spikey balks 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: and he totally unravels. And the next night Lozardo unraveled. 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you're starting pitching in this series, so much 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: went wrong, you get swept in three games. 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 5: They got five and a third four and five innings 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 5: from their starters. Put a lot of pressure on their bullpen. 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: But you know, everything with this team has been built 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: around starting pitching, and the starting starting pitching was poor 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: throughout the series. 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: Their lineup was horrendous. 77 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: They were three for twenty two with runners in scoring position, 78 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: three for twenty two with runners in scoring position. They 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: only had three runners in scoring position on Wednesday night 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: in the final, and they struck out twenty seven times. 81 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: This series, with the to me, with the disappearance of 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: the offense, gives all the doubters fodder to say, see, see, 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen in October, and that's when 84 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: they're why they're going to go home early. And that's 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: what has been this team's DNA for years. They can 86 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: rack up strikeouts over a course of a week that 87 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: will blow your mind, and they can go totally cold 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: with runners in scoring position and not bring runs home. 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: And and just you know, look awful offensively, and if 90 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: it rears its head at the wrong time in October, 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: you go home. As it has the last two Octobers, 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: along with the bullpen being shaky in the last two octobers. 93 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean, this happened in late August. They still have 94 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: thirty games left something like that to you know, right 95 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: the ship and getting into October. I'm not worried about 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: them getting into October. They're going to be there. They 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: just have to avoid series like this. And on top 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: of it all, they didn't play good defense, so it 99 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: was just a terrible, terrible showing up there. But I mean, 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: I do think you have to keep it, you know, 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: in perspective, they're still they got to lead in the division. 102 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: And it was just a week ago that the Phillies 103 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: did a similar number on the Seattle Mariners. They just, 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, the Mariners had to go home feeling like 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: they played an awful series in Philadelphia. 106 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: So it can turn quickly. But they need to come. 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Out there on Thursday night make a good showing against Atlanta. 108 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 2: This is the type of series that I think should 109 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: It will scare Phillies fans because not only do they 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: lose the season series now, but you know, the Phillies 111 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: they have to get that first round by They got 112 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: to get that first round by. 113 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Now. 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: Depending on what the Dodgers do on Wednesday night, they 115 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: could be the third the Phillies could fall to the 116 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: third seed. 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: You know. 118 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: So if the season ended today and the Phillies are 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: the third seed, they would play the Mets in the 120 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: wild Card series. Now, those games would be at Citizens 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: Bank Park. Those three games in the best of three 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: series would be at Citizen Bank Park. Nevertheless, though you 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: don't you can't tell me that if that, if they 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: end up playing in the division series and they have 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: to go back to the city field, that that's not 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: gonna be on their minds. 127 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: And you're right, Rubin, they're gonna say, you. 128 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Know, it's you know, it's you know. And Rob said 129 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: it after the game, He's like, you know, we've got 130 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: an experienced group. We're just gonna flush it and move on, 131 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: you know. Kyle Schwarber said, nothing fazes us. You know, 132 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it, And I get it. That's 133 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: what That's what the players and the manager and the 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: front office they're going to say in the moment publicly, 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: but then we then far removed from it, right, They go, yeah, actually, 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: now I'm thinking back to it. At the time, you know, 137 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: it was definitely in our heads. 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: You know. 139 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: John Crux said it the other day. Rubin, you might 140 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: remember this. He said ninety three, he said we were scared. 141 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna say scared to death. He says, in 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: ninety three, we were not looking forward to playing the 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Giants if the Giants uh won the NL West that year, 144 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: because we could not beat the New York Giants the 145 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants. And I looked it up and he 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: was right. I mean, the Giants absolutely throttled the filly. 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: He's like, you know, ninety three, the two seasons before that, 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: it's like we were we didn't we want to know 149 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: part of the Giants, so we felt we were much 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: better face chasing, you know, playing the Braves, and so 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: you know, there's and ask the Mets if they didn't 152 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: feel any pressure going down to stretching O seven when 153 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: things started and fall apart, you know, those things getting 154 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: the players team's minds. And I can really rattle rattle 155 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: these guys, so they want no parts of going up 156 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: to New York they want again because it's going to 157 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: be on their minds. It is going to be on 158 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: their minds. 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: Rubens right there. They're just they're just so confident against Phillies. 160 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: Ventos has not had a good season. He has a 161 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: great series, you know. They And here's another thing that 162 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: I think we need to consider. Schwarber has been an 163 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: MVP candidate all year. 164 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: What a year he's had. 165 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: He's really carried this team and he's going to finish 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: in the top three in the MVP. 167 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: He just he was human in this series. He had 168 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: an O far. He was human. 169 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: And I'm not pointing any fingers because he's that good 170 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: and he's been that good and he showed he's human. 171 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: But they are so schore or dependent. 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By the way, 240 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: that broccoli chicken, you know, white broccoli chicken might be 241 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: changed over. 242 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 5: Is that right? 243 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: You might have a different name sometime soon. I'm not sure. 244 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: That was that's the That's the pizza that Ruben crush 245 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: when we were down at Manco last month. 246 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: And how about that It's delicious? You never know your 247 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: ears open. 248 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: Was already taken though. 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't have the Ruben. 250 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: You can't have you could never have a sandwich no 251 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: matter how. 252 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: Good you are. 253 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: You know, whatever you do in your life, you could 254 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: never have a sandwich named after you. 255 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: I will say this, My dad had the name in 256 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo when I first got there. 257 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: The very first time I played for the Cleveland Indians 258 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: Organization Organization Triple A. I go to a restaurant in 259 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: Buffalo and they had the Ruben Tomorrow sandwich, no kidding, 260 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: named after my dad. Yes, it was right by the 261 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: ballpark and it's at a bar in uh in Buffalo 262 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: bar restaurant in Buffalo. 263 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: It was I thought it was a joke. 264 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: When I sat down, I thought somebody was playing playing 265 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: in a practical joke. I sat down, I'm looking at 266 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: Ruben Amorrow sandwich. I'm going and it was like, you know, 267 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: the Ruben and but they spelled my dad's name right. 268 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: UH spelled our name right, and it's hilarious. That was like, yeah, 269 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: it's funny. 270 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, Well maybe you'll get maybe you'll get. 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: A pizza, pizza maybe named after me. That would be nice. 272 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: So the uh back to the Eyesore in City Field, 273 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: if I may for a moment. 274 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: So the Mets just called up this Jonah Tong. 275 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: Right right hander who's having a great year in the 276 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: minor league, like number one prospect. But the kid who 277 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: pitched Wednesday night, McLean, he's here for three stars. He 278 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: was spectacular, really good stuff. He gets the ball to 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: move both ways, sharp, sharp slider, sweeper, sharp sinker, great 280 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: change up hard for four seamer. And he was a 281 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: two way player at Oklahoma State. Drafted in the third round. 282 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: I mean, how did he last till the third round? 283 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: He looked great. 284 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: All the draft. 285 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: Nice work he got he got, I mean swings and 286 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: misses on everything. He had, like six different pitches he 287 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: got at least I think two swings of misses on 288 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: everything he threw. It was almost amazing that he didn't 289 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: get more. Yeah, I think he had like thirteen whiffs 290 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: the entire night. But you just watched him picture like, 291 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: how how are they even They had no shot? 292 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: They got no shot. 293 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: He was tremendous. 294 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: What what sharp movement he had? Uh from you know 295 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: the right hand or but and I'm also you know 296 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: the Mets they hit over five hundred like with runners 297 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: and the scoring position over three nights. 298 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: We do we think they had something on the Phillies Reuben. 299 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Well, there's some discussion about that. 300 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: It's because they they seem to be on pretty much 301 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: everything that they're throwing up there. 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if they're. 303 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: Just confident at the dish knowing what these guys are 304 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: gonna throw, or whether they have somebody's tipping some pitches 305 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: or something's going on. But i mean, I'm sure that's 306 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: something that Rob Thompson sort of obsessed with a little bit. 307 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: But they'll check it. 308 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: But the Phillies were up in the zone a lot, 309 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: even Duran was up a little bit. 310 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: They missed in the middle of the plate a lot. 311 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: And just what the Mets did exactly what you're supposed 312 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: to do with those pitches, and the Phillies did not 313 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: right simple. 314 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: You know. 315 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: The other thing you mentioned, how about confident the Mets 316 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: are and how they come in with a swagger, and 317 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: they don't. They look like a team that just knows 318 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna win. I mean, you saw some frustration from 319 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: the Phillies, most notably from Christopher Sanchez on on Monday, 320 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: which is who's usually pretty calm and cool on the mound. 321 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: He kind of absolutely unravels and what was that the 322 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: sixth inning? Fifth inning? Sixth inning he kind of unraveled. 323 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: I can't remember what inning that was, but whatever he 324 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: unraveled in that. Yeah, and then you know he ends 325 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: up kicking the garbage can and throwing the garbage can 326 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: down the tunnel. And then you see Alizarda go off 327 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: on the umpire, which deserved or not? 328 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: Uh? 329 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: You see you see those things kind of happened back 330 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: to back to back, and and you say, wow, that's 331 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: to me, that's just a sign of you know, nothing 332 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: can do, nothing's happened. We can't make anything happen here, 333 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: Like you know, we're losing and it's unraveling and we 334 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: can't find a way to stop it. And so I'm 335 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: gonna go, okick your trash can. I'm gonna go yell 336 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: at an umpire again, deserved or not? 337 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: You know that? 338 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 9: To me, there's a little Murphy's law working right now 339 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 9: for the Phillis when they go there, Little Murphy's law, 340 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 9: little bad mojo, not good, No bueno, it's gotta change. 341 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: You gotta have a paradigm shift there. 342 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: Don't blame I don't I don't blame Lozardo one bit. 343 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: That's why I deserve or not. You know, he was awful. 344 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: It was awful, he told the guy, and he told 345 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: the guy you need to wake up back there as 346 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 3: he walked off, and honestly, people get on Rob for not, 347 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, pitching a fit now and then, and I'm 348 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: more like, you got to be true to your personality. 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: It can't be manufactured, it can't be fake. But he 350 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 3: goes out to get Lozarro. I don't know how he 351 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: didn't turn to the umpire and say, why didn't you 352 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: throw or why did you throw him out? Just out 353 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: of curiosity? Why did you throw him out? The empire says, well, 354 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: he told me to wake up. That's where I would 355 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: have said, well, he's right, you need to wake up. 356 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 3: You are having a night and you know they they 357 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, that's sort of getting booted. 358 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 5: Organically. 359 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: The guy was just I mean, what Soto backing out 360 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: and being granted that was total he was intimidate by Soto, 361 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: young opire, young players. 362 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: Things happened, but that was not a good performance. 363 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: No, there's I mean, there's there's other things that happen. 364 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: You know. 365 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: Ryan Kirker and gets brought in fifth inning and he 366 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: gets knocked around, and yeah, you do you look do 367 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: you guys look at his numbers? Uh, inherited runners scored, 368 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: and well it's. 369 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Inherited runners scored are not very good. But you know, 370 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: he comes in in a situation. 371 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: I know it's in the Titans, and he's got to 372 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: pitch whenever he's called upon. 373 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: But he's been pitching in the seventh, eighth, and ninth. 374 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: He hasn't been pitching in the fifth. And I think 375 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: that maybe either mentally or physically may not have been ready. 376 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: Not an excuse, I'm not saying it's an excuse, but 377 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: he has to now he knows he's got to be 378 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: ready to go because in tight situations like this in 379 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 4: the playoffs, some of the gun's gonna have to be ready. 380 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: In the fourth, Yeah, very tough coming into the bases, looaded, 381 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: very tough. 382 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: It's not an easy task. No, it's nothing. 383 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 5: Nothing went right up there. 384 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 10: But you got to be ready, and you got to 385 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 10: be professional, and you've got to be ready to try 386 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 10: to make your pitches, and and and uh I I 387 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 10: personally would rather have a more veteran guy coming in 388 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 10: that situation, a guy like Robertson, just because of the 389 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 10: tightness of the situation. Robertson would have probably a better 390 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 10: handled and demeanor of and the gravity of the situation. 391 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: But he went with Kirkham and he struggled. 392 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: But Kirkling has been around a good bet. Now he's 393 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: not it's not like he's still behind. 394 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: He's a kid. But but you know, I like, you know, 395 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: I feel about the veteran guys. 396 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: The guys have been around, have been there and done it. 397 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: Kirkhan has been there and done a little. But I 398 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: would rather have a more veteran guy going in that 399 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: situation myself. 400 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would rather have I would rather have my 401 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: starter get me through. 402 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: Five or. 403 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: I start to get me through seven? 404 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, five, six or seven? 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Nothing really good, but 438 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: Joe Ros gets released on Monday. 439 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Mano also semi going. 440 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: My eyebrow raised when I saw it fifteen day, I 441 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: l with inflammation and the right middle finger. Ruby, I 442 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: think you once had showed Jim you when you had 443 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: right middle finger inflammation. 444 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: A few times a few show you which finger it 445 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: was her rubin he had. 446 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: He had chronic middle finger inflammation. He was always showing me. 447 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: I showed it to him pretty much every single day. 448 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god. As say as I saw that injury, 449 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I was like, uh, And. 450 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 5: I never I never reported it. 451 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: I never mixed into my story that the general manager 452 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: flipped off the beat Rider because I was a pro 453 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: and I got some good advice as a young writer 454 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: from Larry Baa and it was this. 455 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: Take it like a man, bitch. I took it like 456 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 5: a man. 457 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that. 458 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: People people think that Jim's joking there with what Larry 459 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: bow has said to him once, and that that is 460 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: a truth. That is a true line. 461 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: When Jim Fragosi was yelling at me one day, Larry 462 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: walked by and interjected, take it like a man, bitch. 463 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Larry is such a gem man. 464 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 5: He is so funny. Well, you just take it like 465 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 5: a man, you know. 466 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Larry is very. 467 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: One of the sneakiest, funniest guys you'll ever run into. 468 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he's you could destroy anybody and the like. 469 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: He would be great. He would be a tremendous guy. 470 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: To have it a roast. 471 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: He would be the greatest roaster of all time. 472 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 2: You would walk home with your head between your legs, 473 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: just you know, feel bad about yourself. 474 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 5: But anyway, so they brought up Lou Trevino. Mm hmm, 475 00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: right hand. 476 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: Had some good years in yeah, like Quakertown or something 477 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: up it that way maybe. 478 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: But. 479 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: He was with Oakland and then he was at the 480 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 3: Yankees and he got hurt and he bought. But uh so, 481 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: somebody in the organization was really like him, because the 482 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: Phillies almost had a trade for him. The final day 483 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Final a couple of days of spring training in twenty 484 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: twenty two. And the reason I know this it was 485 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 3: for Connor Brogden, and Brogden had was banged up like 486 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: the last week of camp, so I think the deal 487 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: got put on the shelf. And but if you remember 488 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: Todd Brogden had didn't throw, and then he was going 489 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: to throw the last day at camp, and two Oakland 490 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 3: A's scouts like parachute into clear water to see any 491 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: like what are these guys doing here? And then Connor Brogden, 492 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden appears and throws an 493 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: inning and the next thing you know, there's no trade. 494 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: They must not liked what they saw, but somebody liked 495 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: and that was going to be a trade for Trevino. 496 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: Brought it in for Trevino and uh and somebody must 497 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: like him. They finally got him, Yeah, they finally got him. 498 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Finally got him years later. I mean, you know, that's 499 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: just the Ross and Romano moves though, or moves that 500 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: needed to be made. I mean, just not not competitive, 501 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: even in the mop up situations. You can't you know, 502 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: if you're going in a game you're down eight nothing, 503 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: keep it eight nothing, don't make it thirteen, you know, 504 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing. And those guys just weren't able to 505 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 2: get done. 506 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: So and he both in the disappointment. Let's call a 507 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: spade a spade here. They've been in disappointment and they 508 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: have not pitched. They did not pitch well, and I 509 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: know that they're holding out some hope that Romano can 510 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: bounce back and do something. 511 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: But the reality of it is that they both were 512 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: poor performers. 513 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the the fact that both of those 514 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: guys have failed partly why they had to go out 515 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: and sign David Robertson to a free agent contract. And 516 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: in a sense they'd go out and get jowonder On. 517 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: Maybe they would have gotten a stud closer anyway, they 518 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: probably would have, but I certainly increased the urgency. And 519 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, you absolutely had to go out and do 520 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: it because you weren't getting anybody from a guy that 521 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: they thought was going to be the closer this season 522 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: in Romanos. So yeah, so we got that going Braves. 523 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up here with the Braves coming to 524 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Citizen Bank Park. The best way guys to make people 525 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: forget about this series. I think, Jim you might have 526 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: said at the very beginning of the show, go out 527 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: and win three out of four from the Braves at 528 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: Citizens Bank Park this weekend. And then everybody's gonna come down. 529 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: And then you go to Milwaukee and you can play 530 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: well against the Brewers. And so Thursday you've got Aaron 531 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: Nol against Cal Quantrill, who the Brave just picked up recently. 532 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: Friday Ranger Swarz versus Bryce Elder. Saturday Christopher Sanchez pitches. 533 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Braves have not announced the starter for Saturday. And then 534 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: Sunday is Hayes Loose Lizardo against Hurston Waldrip. That's a 535 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: great name. 536 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: That's a it sounds like a he's a Georgia guy. 537 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: It's an I'm a hustin' wall Rip. 538 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: That's it sounds like the may But so we will 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: be back. You need to take three out of four 540 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: of these boys and settle. Settle the folks down. 541 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 5: Ruben, just tell tell everybody where you are. I think 542 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: it's very interesting. 543 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five Cleveland Indians. 544 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: Ball Club that one the al the National League and 545 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: uh lost to the Atlanta Braves in the World. 546 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Series that year. But we have our thirty year reunion. 547 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: Just was having a cocktail of my man Bud Black 548 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: and Paul Austin mocker uh Off with my man Charlie 549 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: Naggy used to be my roommate and many many others. 550 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's cool, cool to be out here. I'm 551 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna be here for a few days and then I'll 552 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: be back in Philly on Saturday. 553 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: Is there anybody that you I guess you haven't seen 554 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: everybody yet. Everybody's not in town. 555 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys yet. 556 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing any Murray is not going 557 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: to be here, and I think Jim Toby is going 558 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: to be here. 559 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Lofton will be here. 560 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if we're gonna see Joe Table or 561 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: Omar Viskell. Maybe they'll get into a little fight. Uh 562 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: that's a possibility. You know they're not friendly. And then uh, 563 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. It was it was a very volatile, 564 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 4: interesting call the house back in the day. But it 565 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: was Alva offensive team. Man never been around a better 566 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: offensive team. I don't know if Ramiers will be here, 567 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: but we'll see. What about Albert no charger? 568 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: What was the story with Table and Viscal Like, didn't 569 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: it he hit a home runs. 570 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Wrote a book and said that had little balls. 571 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: That's true in the ninety seven World Series. 572 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: So he can look he looked in his eyes and 573 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: knew he was gonna blow the game or something like that. 574 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: Right told me he had no balls. And then Jose Mason, 575 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: i think, decided that every single time he faced him, 576 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: he was going to hit him with a pitch. 577 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 5: He was with the Philly when we went there. 578 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I know. We had to go down there and say, 579 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: please don't do that, because you're gonna lose the game. 580 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: He said, I don't care, I'm drowing him. 581 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: Wasn't there a story Ruben in in winter Haven't? 582 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 5: Didn't? 583 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: In Winter Haven they were playing an intrasquad game. 584 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 5: And didn't Viscal hit a home run off. 585 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: Mason and did a cartwheel across home plate. 586 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: That's repossible. I don't know if I was there. I 587 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: was there, I think that year. I'm not either ninety 588 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: four or ninety five. But there's no love loss there. 589 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Joe Tableman, you don't message Joe Table. 590 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: Jim knows. 591 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: He was going and nose. He was taking it like 592 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: a man. 593 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Jim and Joe Table went nose to 594 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: nose once at the old that Clubhouse. 595 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: I love Joe. 596 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: I actually when he had his thousandth Big League appearance, 597 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: I wrote a really nice tribute up to him, and 598 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: yeah he was very uh, hell of a career. 599 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: A career man League games. 600 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Oh saves until Patavan took over. Here the most saves 601 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: in the history of the Phillies. Did you know that, Yes, sir, 602 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: we did. 603 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Always enjoyed, always enjoyed Joe, especially I just don't do 604 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: a cartwheel across one point. 605 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Look that up now, sackless, don't call him sacklist. 606 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually I covered that World series that that 607 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: SkELL Yeah, it was the scale was referring to. You 608 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: know what is funny is I think I still have 609 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: an old computer in my basement seriously todd because that 610 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: game was one of those games, like I think I 611 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: wrote the Cleveland Indians won their first World Seriesness nineteen 612 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: fifty four last night, and then it blew up in 613 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 3: the ninth inning. You know, you have to start your 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: story all over and write a new story. And I 615 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: think I still have a computer with the with the 616 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: with them winning that game and then all hell broke 617 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: broke loose Tony Fernandez making an error and. 618 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: No, I think it was Charlie and that you ended 619 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: up throwing like an O two pitch to that their 620 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: first shortstop tea. Yeah, Rentri came up with more two 621 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 4: out hits than anybody on two strike hits and anybody 622 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: on the planet. 623 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: He had a little soft line in the center field 624 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: that everybody missed. 625 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: And Creig Council scored the winning run, right, I believe, 626 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: So he did score the winning run, and so that I. 627 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: Remember being there at the ballpark and I didn't know who. 628 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: I had my buddies. I had my buddy, Yeah, I 629 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: got a ticket. 630 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: From Darren Dalton, but I was there. 631 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: I had my all my buddies, Jim, like all these 632 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: guys from the Cleveland and Cleveland Indians. And then you know, 633 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: I had Issy and Dutch on the other side, and 634 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: I was like, who am I rooting for? 635 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't lose. Yeah, exactly. 636 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: I remember being at the I was at the ballpark 637 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: that night till like three in the morning, because I 638 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: you know, I filed my story. I went to the clubhouse, 639 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: I talked to everybody back upstairs, filed another story, and 640 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: then went back to the clubhouse because I wanted to 641 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: get like a second day story, uh, talking to Darren Dalton, 642 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: and I got that and I went to my hotel 643 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: at like four in the morning. 644 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 5: I had like a seven am flight. 645 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: I packed my bag and I said, I'm just gonna 646 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: go sit at the airport because there's no way I'm 647 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 3: going to go to sleep. And I went to this 648 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: all night diner near the Fort Lauderdale Airport and I 649 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: was there was only me and three other people in 650 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: there at the table tables like feet away. It was 651 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: Craig Counsel eating French toast at five in the morning 652 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: with his parents after he has just scored the winning 653 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: run in the World Series, like five or six hours earlier. 654 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: It was it was really, you know, Neat. 655 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 656 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a cool story. 657 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. 658 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was fun. 659 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: Guys. 660 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: Well, this last part was fun. That the series wasn't 661 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: The series was not fun. It was it was ugly, 662 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: it was brutal, it was bad and so many different ways. 663 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: But one good weekend can change it all. 664 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 5: Well, is a new day. 665 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: Tomorrow is a new day. You're right, You're right, Jim, 666 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: and we will be back next week. 667 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: And we will smell you later, small Jim. 668 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 669 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 670 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts