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Speaker 2: It's the only way we know how to what a

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Speaker 2: two point seven kiss FM. I gotta tell you, Harvey,

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Speaker 2: we're celebrating twenty years Harvey Leven with us now at TMZ,

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Speaker 2: we're celebrating twenty years of this show on Earth Ride Secrets.

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Speaker 2: You guys launched TMZ the website how many years ago,

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Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 3: And you know what.

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Speaker 4: You know why I bring it up because and you're

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Speaker 4: so kind in inciting it. I saw you doing some

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Speaker 4: press for this specially you're doing and you were talking

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Speaker 4: about us starting a collaboration early on. I remember the

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Speaker 4: first year of this show was when we first started

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Speaker 4: to collaborate about TMZ because y'all were launching as just

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Speaker 4: a website.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say, to go down memory lane.

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Speaker 5: I ran into Ryan at a restaurant called mister chow

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Speaker 5: Y Yeah, And I walked up to a stable and

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Speaker 5: he said, what are you up to? And I said,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm working on this thing that we're going

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Speaker 5: to launch this website. We're gonna call it TMZ. And

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Speaker 5: you asked me what it was about, and you said,

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Speaker 5: I love this idea. I'm going to put you on

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Speaker 5: my radio show when you launch. You were the only

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Speaker 5: person who believed that this was a good idea. Everybody

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Speaker 5: else told me this was a terrible idea. You got

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Speaker 5: it and you said do it, and I kind of

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Speaker 5: needed to hear that from somebody. So I am forever,

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Speaker 5: aside from just loving this person, I am forever indebted

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Speaker 5: to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Wow, look at what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It completely reinvented the way that stories are told, the

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Speaker 4: way that we get information. And by the way, I

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Speaker 4: don't think anyone has the sources and the closeness that

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Speaker 4: you have to get stuff before your team has before

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Speaker 4: anybody else. It's pretty remarkable, is that. Just years and

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Speaker 4: years of relationships and obviously cleverness.

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Speaker 5: Again, you are just so unbelievably smart. And I'm not

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Speaker 5: just saying that, yes, and nobody asks it that way.

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Speaker 5: Nobody asks. Everybody says, OHTMZ must be doing something to

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Speaker 5: get these stories.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, I was a news reported

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Speaker 5: here for several decades before I started TMZ, and then

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Speaker 5: I have a staff here that for almost twenty years.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've been developing relationships, so exactly, there's no

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Speaker 5: magic to it. I mean, reporting is reporting, and it

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Speaker 5: means that You've got to find people who trust you,

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Speaker 5: who think you're fair, and you establish relationships with them.

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Speaker 5: And that's the way it works in every area of reporting.

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Speaker 5: When you go to Washington, d C. And cover the

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Speaker 5: White House, you find sources who will talk to you.

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Speaker 5: And it's the same thing covering pop culture, the same

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Speaker 5: skill set. It's establishing relationships and nurturing them. And that's

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Speaker 5: what it simply is about. And you actually said it

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Speaker 5: in a very clear way that a lot of people just.

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Speaker 4: Don't get Harvey Levin with this. I have to tell

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Speaker 4: you also work hard. I mean you work hard. I

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Speaker 4: know I work no, No, I know, no, no, I know

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Speaker 4: I work. You are up before I am, and you

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Speaker 4: have been for a long long time. You're working into

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Speaker 4: the weekend, you're working at night. You do not phone

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Speaker 3: I know that.

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Speaker 4: And so there's to me that that hard work is

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Speaker 4: certainly a part of it too. But I want it

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Speaker 4: speaking of poor, speaking of another thing he's doing. So

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Speaker 4: TMC presents Arnold in Sly Rivals Friends icons Premierre on

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Speaker 4: Fox Tonight eight seven Central Stream and to Mount Hulu, tell.

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Speaker 3: Us about this and why you're excited about it?

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Speaker 1: Well, look, it goes back a long way. It goes

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Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 5: I had just come back to LA to practice law,

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Speaker 5: I remember talking to him on Friday. On Monday, he

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Speaker 5: Years later, I end up working out of the same

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Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, the stories are this one of

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Speaker 5: And one would tell a story about what they did

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Speaker 3: Interesting Schwarzenegger and Stallone.

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Speaker 4: So why do you think they were comfortable enough to

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Speaker 5: Because they First of all, what I love about them

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Speaker 5: so they're not afraid to talk about this and it's

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Speaker 5: part of their lives. It's a mosaic of their life.

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Speaker 5: And they both really kind of wanted to do this,

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Speaker 5: and honestly, right I wasn't sure how it was going

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Speaker 1: They would say. They disagree with things, but it's it's real.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you will get them when you watch this.

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Speaker 4: It's it's why I watched maybe people listening saw as

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Speaker 4: well as Susney Tani. I watched their documentaries independently, and

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember whether it was Sli or Arnold who

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Speaker 5: Why it is that they had this kind of competitiveness,

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Speaker 5: So the two documentaries kind of come together when they

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Speaker 3: All Right, I checked out.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for hyping this, but I'm really into it.

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Speaker 4: Hiamatic, it's TMZ presenter, Harve you Love and the Arnold

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Speaker 4: and Sly, the rivals of Frenzy Icons Fox and then Hulu.

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Speaker 4: I can see your atomic clock to the second behind you.

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Speaker 4: I know you've got to do something immediately, so I'll

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Speaker 1: I want to say two things.

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Speaker 5: One it's on tonight at eight eastern, seventh Central, And

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you? How do you like what struck you?

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Speaker 5: I just thought the performances were so good. I mean,

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Speaker 5: every single performance was so memorable.

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know I was thinking as I was watching.

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Speaker 5: I thought, my god, you have done this. Wow, you

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Speaker 5: have you? But you have been the steward of this

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Speaker 5: thing for so long and it's just so good still.

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of shows after twenty years they

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for watching. Enjoy what you're about

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear about and I'll see after absolutely Okay,

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Speaker 4: thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 3: That looks great, doesn't here?

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Speaker 4: I got to put him on my fridge next to

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Speaker 4: Beckham as my motivation. No, I don't know, maybe not

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Speaker 3: Looks so good. Yeah, did you.

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Speaker 4: Hear how he's doing these things? And maybe you know

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Speaker 4: this is the thing. He's meeting people at the gym

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Speaker 4: like I am.

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Speaker 3: The deals being worked out what's next. You gotta look

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Speaker 3: up from your workouts and you look at the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: have a conversation, all right, let's pay a bell on

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