WEBVTT - Red in a Blue State 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.520 All right, news, round up, information, overload, hour, toll free. 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.840 Our number is eight hundred and nine point one Sean, 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.920 if you want to be a part of the program. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.840 In a minute, we're going to get full, complete analysis. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.799 You know, the idea that some people, oh my gosh, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:19.040 the over thinking of what has happened in this election 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:24.919 in New York City and New Jersey and the Commonwealth 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.040 of Virginia is ridiculous to me. Now, I'm a big believer. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.200 I think one of the biggest mistakes the Democrats made 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.559 after twenty twenty four is there was no reflection, no introspection, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.400 no course correction. I'm willing to learn after every election, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.199 you know, maybe what things Republicans need to focus on. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.479 And I just hear some of this analysis and it's asinine. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.760 You know, New York City was always going to be 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.480 going blue. There was no chance. You know, it's an 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.120 eight to one advantage Democrats over Republicans. In New Jersey. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.120 It's just shy of a million more registered Democrats than Republicans. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.720 You know, you say, well, Glenn Youngkin was elected. You 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.400 know in twenty one. Twenty one was like the perfect storm. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.360 You had the perfect candidate in Glenn Youngkin. He is 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:18.600 a strong candidate and the perfect issue loud in County 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.080 DEI woke schools and it just resonated. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.039 And he barely won. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.200 He bought by like two points, and it was the 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.800 upset of all upsets. And I'll be very frank, I'm 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.240 a little disappointed in win some seeries that I did 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.640 not think she ran a strong campaign. And to be honest, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.000 I think I put Youngkin on campaigning for her more 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.559 than win some series because I felt like she wasn't 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.800 she wasn't strong on the stump, strong enough. In the 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.280 case of New Jersey, I look at New Jersey and 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.600 I said, wow, some of these polls are close. Not 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.040 one had him leading, but that had it, you know, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.440 within a one point, racing some poles for a period. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.320 And I'm like, okay, we got a shot here, but 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.600 it's only a shot. I knew it was only a shot. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.000 I was honest with you. I'd never get pollyannish. I 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.240 always tell you the truth. And but even in New Jersey, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.720 you know, I in the last three years they lost 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.200 a quarter of a million people leaving the state. They 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.720 have migrated out in New Jersey. Well, that would have 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.560 made all the difference because I can pretty much guarantee 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.560 you ninety eight percent of those people that left are 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.360 likely the ones that would have voted Republican and been 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.880 enthusiastic for Jack Chidarelli. I feel bad for Jack, but 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.440 it is what it is. Migration is now playing a 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.240 major part. Wait till the twenty thirty census. And you know, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.760 you know Marxist COMMI you know Mamdani in New York. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.880 It's not a surprise to me that city is so 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.680 hardcore radical left. Does it really surprise you? 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.840 But you know so. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.000 I kind of took Frank Sinatra's hit song New York 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.240 New York. I changed the lyrics. I can't sing, but 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.120 my friend Joe Pegs, the great Joe Pegs can. And 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.040 well here's what we put together. If you missed it earlier, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.040 start spreading the news. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:19.400 I'm leaving today. Don't want to be a part of it. Hi, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:28.799 tax New York, these men donny Blues. I'm making me 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:37.360 leave right to the very heart of it. Bye bye, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:44.560 New York. I want to wake up in a city 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.120 without bad crime. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.360 And fine, there's nowhere to see. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:04:03.320 And no chucking. These little town blues they pulled me 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:13.040 away I'll make up brand new start event outside New York. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:20.200 If I can make it their. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.360 Same money. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.760 Everywhere. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:42.599 Good Bye, if you knew New York, New York, screw you, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:50.400 dow Yor I wanna wake up in a city with 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:59.880 DOMANDONI and find out payload, taxays, no crime all day. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.560 Believe that our love. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.400 Reinalds go way. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.679 These big city blues. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.279 Hi John McLachlan, the MacLachlan and an associates group, the 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.320 great Joe Pegg singing Goodbye New York, New York. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:23.880 Oh what'd you think? 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.039 Well, you know, I listened to you talking about you know, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.800 F and I advice and analysts who don't know what 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.120 they're talking about giving bad advice. And the President's been 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.520 getting bad advice before this and after this from people 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.320 who really don't make a living out of doing this. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.160 But you know, I mean, the textbook example of how 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.599 to win as a Trump Republican happened in Nassau County 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.120 last night. I mean Bruce Blakeman, which is right next 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.200 door Nassau County. They have one hundred and ten thousand 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.880 more Democrats out of their million voters. You know the 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:04.360 area you grew up there, and the Republicans swept everything 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.840 Trump endorsed them. Bruce Blakeman has cut taxes, He's hired 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.280 hundred of them more law enforcement officers, he works with ice. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.000 He's got a couple thousand bad people in his jails 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.800 and they you know, I mean, he even banned transgender 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.320 guys from playing with girls in county parks. And you have, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.440 you have a perfect example of how to get Trump 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.839 voters out yesterday in New York, right next door to 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.400 New York City. And it's running on the issues, it's 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.359 having a message. And that's what Joe Cairo and the 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.800 Republicans did in Nassau County, and that's what Bruce Blakeman did, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.920 and they won from top to bottom. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.719 And in New. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.720 Jersey, they left hundreds of thousand of Trump voters home. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.120 We got almost two million votes in New Jersey last year, 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.080 and they didn't come back out. And the same thing 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.839 happened in Virginia and in two thousand I'm an old timer. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.800 In two thousand and. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.800 One, we will tell you somebody made a decision in 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.680 New Jersey not to involve Trump in that race. Nobody 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.919 because they weren't. They didn't bring him in. You know, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.440 I think the endorsement was like back in May, it 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.920 was like, you know, you know, yeah, okay, I'll support 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.200 the Republican and then they moved on. They never asked 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.480 for any help or any support from the President or 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:25.520 the White House, and I believe they probably made or 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.480 had the assumption that that might hurt them. But by 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.360 the way, Bruce Blakeman's a rock star. He'd be a 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.480 great governor in New York one day. In my opinion, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.160 he'd be you know, he could clean up New York City, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.640 but he doesn't live there. He's a great, you know, 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.520 county executive. I'm very fond of him, and the people 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:42.720 around him are phenomenal. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:43.840 Yeah. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.160 And by the way, you I mean for Bruce, I 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.120 mean we got through this election. We ran against the 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:55.200 Hulke Mndamie Democrats. I mean Governor huckel Is. She's doing 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.320 a terrible job in New. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.120 York and he needs. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.200 The key thing is Bruce Blakeman wins. And Bruce, we 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.080 need to win in New York and we need to 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.160 rebuild the Republican Party in New York City, and we 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.680 need to win in New York State. And we ran 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.400 Mandami had a sixty nine unfearable in our last Paul 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.000 on October twenty first in Nassau County, I mean we. 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:17.640 Ran against how did Suffolk County do? 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.320 Suffolk County was find the county executive was not up. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.600 The Republican DA was running unopposed in Nasau County, and Donnelly, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.600 the Republican district Attorney, ran against Castle's bales. That's how 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.160 she got elected four years ago. And she's tough on 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.400 She's the law and order, tough on crime. She got 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.079 re elected with Bruce virtually the same vote. I mean, 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.360 we made no apologies and in fact, I'll tell you 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.199 what was great about Nassau County was President Trump came 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.680 into the Ryder Cup. Remember we had a rally there 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:47.160 last year. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:47.679 Was great. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.439 He won the county even though it's a Democrat registration county. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.080 He came to the Ryder Cup and Bruce. You know, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.240 it was in Nassau County and Bruce hosted him. The 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.720 President brought his granddaughter. Fans loved them. They were channing USA, USA, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.360 you know these I mean, we brought our people back out. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.720 In fact, yesterday there was more Republicans who voted in 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.680 the early vote and absentees and in person on election 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.400 day than actual Democrats. We took it to the Democrats. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:24.079 We basically we ran a contrast campaign and it was 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.840 a textbook of how to win. And that's what we 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.440 used to do in Virginia when I worked for Governor 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.880 Gilmour in two thousand and one. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:30.160 Woman. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.040 Yeah, but the entire population of Virginia, especially Northern Virginia, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.760 is dramatically shifted as hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.720 thousands of DC bureaucrats, as the bureaucracy has gotten bigger 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.480 over the last decades, have moved into northern Virginia and 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.720 they've turned that in as far as I'm concerned, into 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.959 a blue states. Everyone likes to say purple. I don't 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.320 believe it's purple. I think the anomaly was Glenn Youngkin, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.760 and it was you know, it couldn't have been better 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.520 timing and a better person in a better candidate than 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.040 Lenn Youngkin. That was the That was the outlier. That 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.960 is not and the exception. That's not the norm. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:08.520 Right. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.000 You know, By the way, if you look at all 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.880 those states last night, California, if you look at New Jersey, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.439 if you look at New York, if you look at Virginia. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.280 Donald Trump lost all of those states three separate times. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.480 Okay, he didn't win any of them. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.120 Yeah, but we by the way, the strategy last year 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.439 for Donald Trump was to improve our popular vote in 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.320 those states. We almost had a shot. At New Jersey. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.719 We only lost by six and if we were tiring. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.680 That losing by six is, granted, is better than losing 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.400 by sixteen like he did in twenty sixteen. But you know, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.120 we have a major, you know other problem that's happening 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.680 in these blue states, and that is mass migration. I 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.080 mean New Jersey lost to you know, nearly a quarter 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.520 of a million people have left the state in the 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.520 last three years. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:52.880 John. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.400 You know, let me, I would argue probably ninety five 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.800 percent of those people. You know what, if they stayed, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.400 they would have been high propensity Republican voters. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.600 Yeah that's true. But I tell you, we still have 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.840 to win in these states. And I look, I grew up. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.920 You know what, we really don't. We proved that in 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.160 the last election. We don't have to win. We have 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.479 to win congressional races and jerry mandering is hurt Republicans 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.440 and now we're finally fighting back. I don't care what 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.720 Gavin does. Uh my free state of Florida. They're getting 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.800 into the jerry Mandarin game, as is a number of 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.120 other red states and Democrats. They're jerry mandered to death. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.160 They've mastered the art. We're going to catch up and 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:34.720 beat them. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.760 Well. I will tell you this that we would not 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.760 have won the popular vote with Donald Trump last year 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.880 if we did not do better in New Jersey and in. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.120 New York. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.000 I mean we The games we made in New Jersey 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.160 and New York allowed us to get the fifty percent 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.720 in the national popular vote. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.680 And I don't disagree with I don't disagree with that. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.679 But Joe, you know you're also running against an a 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:04.280 minisministration that was the biggest failure of all time, and 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.520 Donald Trump had been treated so horribly. The American people 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.520 had had it and Independence had had it too. Look, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.920 I'm not disagreeing. I agree with you of analysis completely, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:19.000 especially on Bruce Blakeman Nassau County. How to run successfully 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.480 as a Trump Maga conservative. I think there is a 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.400 path that needs to be studied and duplicated. But I 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.440 do think that there are places that are loss causes, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.559 and I think New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and California 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:34.319 the top four. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:35.320 Tell me if I'm. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.320 Wrong, Well, I'll tell you what you're wrong about is 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.000 is you just repeated to me the message that we 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.320 had last year against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.040 they were the worst She was the worst president in 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.800 the history of the United States. That was what Donald 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.160 Trump said, and that's what we encouraged in the campaign. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.680 That was our strategy. And to run a contrast campaign 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.960 against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris allowed Donald Trump to 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.080 raise his job approval and raise his favorable rating. What 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.480 we have right now is no message that we need 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 to really get back to having a message. We need 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.000 to also. I mean, the guy's done amazing things this administration, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.400 what they've done with Susie Wilds, what they've done with 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.480 the getting things done his cabinet, you know, the tax 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.120 cuts past, the inflation's getting back in check. But we 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.120 need a message to sell them. The message is this 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:34.320 president puts America first. He puts America first before anything else, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.360 and he puts the Americans, the American taxpayers, the hard workers, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:38.680 puts them first. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.800 And that's how we're going to reduce inflation. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.720 That's how we're going to grow the economy. And we 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.600 need to get back to those basics. And people like 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:52.000 who are trying to put stand their engine, like Jerome 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.200 Powell at the Federal. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.240 Reserve, by the way, he's gone in May, and Trump 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:03.480 already between Trulyan's and new manufacturing energy dominance and the 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.800 jobs and the money that is going to be brought 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.079 in the largest tax cuts in history, we're going to 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.319 have economic growth. I believe a year from now everything's 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.199 going to be very, very different because the President already 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.360 put those pieces in place. He's been talking about the 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.320 economy all day. Look, John, I'm out of time. Did 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.120 you like the song or no? It's kind of funny 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.320 right now. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.400 I'm still here fighting it and you are in Florida. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.080 Oh you don't like it. You know, my friends in 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.640 New York don't love me right now. Oh listen, I 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.680 feel bad. You want me to cry with you, or 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.520 you know, try and make you laugh a little bit 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.800 and put a smile on your face. Anyway, John McLachlin, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.080 McLoughlin and associates. Thank you, sir. I quickbreak right back. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.760 We'll continue straight ahead. Eight hundred and nine four one, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.840 Shawn is our number. All right, let's get to our 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.480 busy phones here. So many of you have been so patient. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.760 Chris in tennesse see No not Chris, John and Florida, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:54.480 my free state. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:54.840 What's up? 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.120 John? 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:55.600 How are you? 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.400 I am good, shun And I just want to say 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.440 at the outset that I politically with just about everything 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:07.240 you say except the God thing. Let me ask you this, So. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.160 Wait a minute, does that mean you don't believe in God? 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:09.840 You're a nighteist? 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:10.720 Correct? 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.040 I Can I ask you a question? 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.120 I want to ask you the questions first. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.360 All right, you asked me a question, and I'll ask 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:16.920 you a question. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.880 Go ahead, there you go, Thank you, sir. Okay. The 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:25.400 natural disaster is the hurricanes, tidalways, earthquakes, tornados, the recent 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.640 flooding in Texas that dround dozens of Christian girls. Is 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.960 this the handiwork of some God that cares about you? 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.000 How about all the stillborn dead babies, the babies born 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:40.440 blind and without limbs, kids with cancer? Why does your 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.800 God love to bombard Earth and the moon and just 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:48.160 about everything else out there with huge asteroids and meteorites. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.520 What's going on there? Is that the handiwork of your 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:51.120 loving God. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:56.000 John Well, first of all, I don't sit here and 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:01.560 begin to tell you that I know the majesty of 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.440 God and the mystery of God and the will of God, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.920 because I don't, and I'm not going to proclaim that 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:08.320 I do. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.440 Just the opposite. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.440 I think that our God is a loving God, and 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.720 I think there is a purpose. But I also believe 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.480 the other side of it, which is human beings are 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:24.720 fallen beings, and in the in our fallen condition, I 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.120 believe that through one man's sin and evil came into 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.160 the world, and through salvation we find our path back 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.280 to God. And you know, but but God has always 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.120 been a mystery, you know. It's it's the age old 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.480 question why the bad things happen to good people? And 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.640 I wish I could give you a better answer than that, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.040 I honestly can't. However, with all my heart, mind, body 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.760 and soul, I do believe that there is a reason, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:59.520 a purpose, and a plan that far transcends any any ability. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.880 We as human beings have to know that. That's that's 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.120 my heartfelt belief. Now my question for you, so you're 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.560 an atheist, you believe we do know through science that 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:15.240 we have universes within universes within universes within universes, and 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.359 we keep discovering new universes all the time. And you 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.720 have the sun and the stars and the ocean and 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.639 plant life and human life and animal life, and you 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.520 know it's just it is a mystery and a majesty 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:34.480 unto itself. To be an atheist, I would argue, you 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.520 have to believe if you believe that, you know, somehow 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.480 all of that came together and we had a big bang, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.520 but there was not a creator. And it raises a 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.320 question that you have to answer as an atheist, and 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.840 that is and I would argue, you believe something can 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.560 come from nothing, because otherwise, where did the energy come 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.240 to that created this perfect solar system within solar systems 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:59.440 within solar systems? 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:00.600 Can you explain that? 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.439 Because you're telling me that something can come from nothing, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.119 and that seems far less believable than the idea that 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.200 we have an almighty creator that created all of this. 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.280 Your chance, go. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.480 Ahead, Sean, But you're just getting back to. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.800 No, no, no. I answered your question directly answered my question. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.480 Let me speak, who created God? Then God must have 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.639 been eternal, always there, right, So you can't hit me 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:30.960 with it. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:32.600 Well, God answered Moses. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.119 Moses asked the question right, and he said, who should 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:35.800 I say sent me? 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.200 I am sent you. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.879 Now that in that statement, that is predicated, and I believe, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.480 always was, always has been, always will be. Now what 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.440 does that mean? That is not a concept that human 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.840 mind can wrap its arms around. But if you're telling 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.160 me that what I describe to you universes within universes 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.080 within universes, that you're telling me as an atheist, you 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.960 believe it can come from nothing, that's what you're. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:09.440 Saying, Sean Sean. Yes, some particles look into quantum physics. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.879 Where did they come from? Where did the particles come from? 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.480 Nobody knows. Nobody knows, but they do just spontaneously. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.760 Okay, So then we're just at a crossroads. You know, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.719 you you can't. You're believing that something can come from nothing. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.000 The difference between your belief system and my belief system 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:32.199 is that something came from a mysterious that it's I 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.119 believe in an afterlife we will know from a God, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.560 all powerful, ever present, ever living, that created everything, and 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.760 that it's not in this in this present form and 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.399 on earth, we're just not designed to know, but I 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:52.400 will tell you this. I believe human beings are of mind, body, 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.240 and spirit. And I can tell you in my stillness, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.960 in my quietness, in moments of prayer, that I I 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:06.359 can feel that side of myself that is not myself. 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.560 And I believe that God created every human being with 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.560 a purpose the word from the Latin education to bring 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.320 forth from within. I believe that God gave everyone a purpose. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.640 But you're telling me you believe that something can come 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.359 from nothing. That is far less believable than the concept 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.480 that there is an almighty you know, all powerful, always 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.480 has been, always will be God that is a creator. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.040 So that's my belief system. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.159 But you can't explain quantum particles to me without you 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.600 answering where did the quantum particles come from? 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.720 Sean, So your God created these babies with cancer and 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.200 no limbs. 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.120 Where did the quantum particles come from? Stay focused? 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.840 He created them for a purpose? Right, Well, I told 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.880 you nobody knows where they came from. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:54.040 That okay, So to go back to your position, you 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.600 believe there's no God, then you have to believe there's 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.440 no other option than to believe that. 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.280 You think something can just come from nothing. 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:04.879 We don't know, Sean, we just don't know. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.800 No, No, that's what you're saying. You're saying you you 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.359 have to to be an atheist, you have to believe 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.399 something can come from nothing. And I think that is 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.560 far less plausible than a belief in an almighty creator. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.320 I believe that your God is pure evil for creating 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:22.960 deformed babies. 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.119 Well, you can judge God all you want, but you 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.119 don't know a thing about them. You don't even have 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.399 the curiosity. I I far more respect your call in 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:35.159 the sense intellectually if you are agnostic that you have 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.080 an open mind that there might be a God, you 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.639 just don't understand it, and you're you know, you're willing 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.760 to have a more open mind to it. But to 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.160 be an atheist, you are hardcore. You believe something can 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.119 come from nothing. There are no quantum particles because nothing 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:50.080 can come from nothing. 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:51.480 Sure, but there is. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.880 Something that can come from something that we don't intimately 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.560 know the knowledge of, nor are we designed. I believe 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:02.040 like animals have no know don't have a consciousness of 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.919