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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schreger. We are now less than

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Speaker 1: ten days away from the NFL Draft and it is

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Speaker 1: time to just rip through mock draft scenarios. This is

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Speaker 1: why you come to this podcast during this time of year,

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Speaker 1: and I like to think I've got connections with some

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Speaker 1: of the best guys in media who do this for

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Speaker 1: a living. One of them is Field Yates. Field is

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Speaker 1: younger than me. Field has experience with both the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and the Kansas City Chiefs working in their front offices,

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Speaker 1: and has been a rocket ship of a star over

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Speaker 1: at ESPN. He's also a really nice guy and he

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Speaker 1: loves the draft like I do. We're going to bring

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Speaker 1: Field on in just a second. But here's the exercise

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do with him. We're going to do

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Speaker 1: a mock draft. But the two of us have not spoken,

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Speaker 1: we have not looked at each other's mock drafts, and

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Speaker 1: we are going to alternate one pick to another, one

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Speaker 1: if you want to listen to it, I put it

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Speaker 1: up on the podcast in the most recent pod. It

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Speaker 1: just went live on NFL dot com. Again, a lot

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Speaker 1: of feedback and a lot of it being like what

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Speaker 1: the hell, which is exactly what we want to do.

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a really interesting

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Speaker 1: NFL draft with a lot of teams of passionate fan

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Speaker 1: the Giants, you're talking about the Jets. All in the

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see how it all shakes out. But

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Speaker 1: with no further ado, let's get my guy field Yates

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Speaker 1: on here and let's do something mocking, all right. Our

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Speaker 1: You're listening to his podcast and you're seeing his stuff

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Speaker 1: with Mel Kuiper. I have to think that's the ultimate

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Speaker 1: grew up just wanting to be mel Kuiper and do

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Speaker 1: this for a living. Field Yates from ESPN Field, what's

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Speaker 1: up man.

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Speaker 2: Not too much. It's great to be on with you.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this before the recording here

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Speaker 2: of I really believe, and I'm sure there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of other people in the media that fall into

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Speaker 2: one of these people. And I consider myself one of

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Speaker 2: I were a teacher, I have zero doubt in my

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Speaker 2: mind that right now, while at my other job, I

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Speaker 2: And I know you feel the same way, which is

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Speaker 2: why I would consider these next let's call it two

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember being in the college fraternity house

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Speaker 1: thing he won't miss is doing that April mock draft.

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Speaker 1: It's agonizing, it's painful. You find yourself on the phone

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Speaker 2: To, And I would say this, let me rank what

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Speaker 2: and this is like way above the rest entertainment. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there for entertainment purposes, mostly, not only, but mostly I

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Speaker 2: that might be a Matt Miller or Jordan Reid assignment. Eskay.

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Speaker 2: I will be devouring it. I know you and I

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Speaker 2: share an affinity for a lot of sports besides football.

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Speaker 2: I will read every MBA mock draft and now and

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Speaker 2: the reality is that the day after round one is over,

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Speaker 1: Right, real quick before we get to our exercise that

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Speaker 1: you and I are going to do. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: think Caleb, being Caleb, is well equipped to handle whatever

429
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Speaker 2: adversity may come his way. Now maybe that he's got

430
00:19:20,186 --> 00:19:22,786
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen Dj Moore a potentially other wide receiver to

431
00:19:22,826 --> 00:19:25,226
Speaker 2: throw to, and things are pretty seamless here. But I

432
00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:27,786
Speaker 2: do think that Caleb's authenticity is something that really has

433
00:19:27,826 --> 00:19:29,066
Speaker 2: shined through during the process.

434
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Speaker 1: Agreed number two. The Washington Commanders real quick what they

435
00:19:43,786 --> 00:19:46,906
Speaker 1: have done this offseason in acquiring a coaching staff that

436
00:19:46,946 --> 00:19:49,866
Speaker 1: I really like, but also a front office. Did you

437
00:19:49,906 --> 00:19:52,066
Speaker 1: ever work for the NFL proper? Do you work in

438
00:19:52,106 --> 00:19:52,946
Speaker 1: Park Avenue ever?

439
00:19:53,106 --> 00:19:55,506
Speaker 2: No, I never did, but I do work with Well.

440
00:19:55,706 --> 00:19:57,866
Speaker 2: My first this is a great well is I don't

441
00:19:57,866 --> 00:19:59,546
Speaker 2: want to get too far off track here, but my

442
00:19:59,626 --> 00:20:04,306
Speaker 2: first summer working with the Patriots in the in house

443
00:20:04,346 --> 00:20:07,226
Speaker 2: scouting area, there were three deaths, two of which were

444
00:20:08,146 --> 00:20:12,746
Speaker 2: Brian Flores and Adam Peters. So, I mean it's crazy.

445
00:20:12,786 --> 00:20:15,066
Speaker 2: I mean it was like if I went through the

446
00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:16,786
Speaker 2: people that were in the building at that point, you'd

447
00:20:16,786 --> 00:20:18,386
Speaker 2: be blown away. I mean, I think it was like,

448
00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:20,546
Speaker 2: I think it's pushing like a dozen or so future

449
00:20:20,546 --> 00:20:23,746
Speaker 2: head coaches or gms. But yeah, so I have a

450
00:20:23,906 --> 00:20:27,226
Speaker 2: ton of reference for from Adam Peters and I don't.

451
00:20:27,586 --> 00:20:29,626
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're gonna go down to the Dave GUARDI route.

452
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to just explain like who he was,

453
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Speaker 1: and I find it. So they've got like this, from

454
00:20:34,746 --> 00:20:36,666
Speaker 1: what I'm told, they've got like this open floor plan

455
00:20:37,066 --> 00:20:40,066
Speaker 1: in Washington right now, where like there's no not everyone's

456
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Speaker 1: in their own office. Everyone's kind of collaborating. And like

457
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Speaker 1: the thought of Dave Gardy in a commander's shirt sitting

458
00:20:45,866 --> 00:20:49,346
Speaker 1: in like an open Facebook style office is like jarring

459
00:20:49,386 --> 00:20:51,826
Speaker 1: to me because GUARDI has worked at the league the

460
00:20:51,946 --> 00:20:55,706
Speaker 1: entire time that I have been employed by NFL Network,

461
00:20:55,746 --> 00:20:57,706
Speaker 1: and I think at Fox and is like the most

462
00:20:57,786 --> 00:21:00,866
Speaker 1: trusted and beloved guy at the league office from the

463
00:21:00,906 --> 00:21:02,986
Speaker 1: team side, because they go to him with every question

464
00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:06,786
Speaker 1: about salary cap, about front office rules, about whether or

465
00:21:06,826 --> 00:21:09,186
Speaker 1: not this makes sense with the waiver wire, and there

466
00:21:09,186 --> 00:21:10,826
Speaker 1: are so many guys now you're just talking about the

467
00:21:10,866 --> 00:21:14,826
Speaker 1: new England Tree. The management council at the league is

468
00:21:14,866 --> 00:21:17,306
Speaker 1: a group, and it's all these ivy league guys and

469
00:21:17,386 --> 00:21:20,306
Speaker 1: really smart aspiring ladies and they go there and they

470
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Speaker 1: learn the league rules inside and out, and then they're

471
00:21:22,946 --> 00:21:25,306
Speaker 1: eventually spit out of the league office and they go

472
00:21:25,786 --> 00:21:27,946
Speaker 1: to teams all over the league, and you could turn

473
00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:30,546
Speaker 1: thirty two teams that have you know, people who worked

474
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Speaker 1: started off at the management Council in the League office,

475
00:21:33,666 --> 00:21:38,226
Speaker 1: Guardy is all of their mentors, and on Monday to

476
00:21:38,226 --> 00:21:41,666
Speaker 1: get the chefter notification that Dave Gardy's leaving the league

477
00:21:41,706 --> 00:21:45,626
Speaker 1: office to go work for a team, I was like, Wow, A,

478
00:21:45,866 --> 00:21:48,546
Speaker 1: that's surprising, b how cool is that for him? And

479
00:21:48,586 --> 00:21:51,826
Speaker 1: then see that was a sneaky hire by the Commanders.

480
00:21:51,866 --> 00:21:53,506
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of teams would have loved to

481
00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,586
Speaker 1: have them, And like, I think that is a major

482
00:21:55,746 --> 00:21:58,786
Speaker 1: X factor moving forward as the season goes. And I

483
00:21:58,946 --> 00:22:01,306
Speaker 1: just love what they've done this offseason and assembling a

484
00:22:01,306 --> 00:22:04,866
Speaker 1: group that includes him and obviously Peters and then d

485
00:22:05,106 --> 00:22:08,946
Speaker 1: Q and Kingsbury great coaches, but then also to tap

486
00:22:08,986 --> 00:22:12,186
Speaker 1: into guys like Bob Myers and to tap into guys

487
00:22:12,226 --> 00:22:14,666
Speaker 1: like Dave Gardy who are outside the box hires. I

488
00:22:14,706 --> 00:22:17,386
Speaker 1: love it. With the second overall pick, I don't care

489
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Speaker 1: if it's Dave Guardy, Adam Peters, Bob Myers making the pick.

490
00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:24,866
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, the Heisman Trophy winner out of LSU I

491
00:22:24,946 --> 00:22:26,586
Speaker 1: have going to the Washington Commanders.

492
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Speaker 2: I feel good about that one. I mean feel great

493
00:22:28,786 --> 00:22:32,226
Speaker 2: about the player. Obviously, after this past season, only player

494
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:34,706
Speaker 2: in FBS history with three hundred and fifty passing yards

495
00:22:34,706 --> 00:22:36,786
Speaker 2: and two hundred rushing yards in a single game. I mean,

496
00:22:36,826 --> 00:22:39,586
Speaker 2: the guy put up literally game numbers. It's against two.

497
00:22:39,666 --> 00:22:42,266
Speaker 2: I gotta watch that against Florida. There are a lot

498
00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:44,626
Speaker 2: of Florida grads. We were talking about Howie Roseman earlier

499
00:22:44,626 --> 00:22:47,826
Speaker 2: in the show, and you know, and he obviously and

500
00:22:49,186 --> 00:22:51,866
Speaker 2: Jed Fish. So I'm sorry if they're listening right now,

501
00:22:51,986 --> 00:22:54,226
Speaker 2: but all the Florida grads out there, I apologize, But

502
00:22:54,186 --> 00:22:57,226
Speaker 2: that game was I mean, that was extraterrestrial stuff. They

503
00:22:57,226 --> 00:22:59,666
Speaker 2: are from from Jada Daniels. I think the draft kind

504
00:22:59,666 --> 00:23:02,866
Speaker 2: of start to pick three. Let's think it's interesting, all right,

505
00:23:02,906 --> 00:23:04,786
Speaker 2: So the Patriots right now, this I think is the

506
00:23:04,826 --> 00:23:07,346
Speaker 2: dilemma if you're in New England is I think you know,

507
00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,946
Speaker 2: trade down possibilities are in play here, right because as

508
00:23:09,946 --> 00:23:11,986
Speaker 2: we know, there are teams that are interested. As we

509
00:23:12,146 --> 00:23:14,626
Speaker 2: also know, the price is going to be steep for

510
00:23:14,706 --> 00:23:16,866
Speaker 2: those teams to move up, whether it's the Giants from

511
00:23:16,866 --> 00:23:19,706
Speaker 2: six to three, whether it's the Vikings from eleven to three,

512
00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:23,546
Speaker 2: Broncos twelve to three, Raiders thirteen to three, the big

513
00:23:23,586 --> 00:23:26,946
Speaker 2: price sack, right, We're talking about likely three overall first

514
00:23:26,986 --> 00:23:29,866
Speaker 2: round you know, first round picks overall, whether they're you know.

515
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Speaker 1: From those teams and the teams, yes, like that eleven, twelve,

516
00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:35,386
Speaker 1: thirteen you're looking at as the trade lance trade is

517
00:23:35,466 --> 00:23:36,546
Speaker 1: kind of like the.

518
00:23:36,586 --> 00:23:37,306
Speaker 2: Good DAP point.

519
00:23:37,466 --> 00:23:39,786
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the basement offer more than that.

520
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Speaker 2: Yep, I would say that's exactly where you start. What

521
00:23:43,106 --> 00:23:45,706
Speaker 2: I fear if I'm a team moving down that needs

522
00:23:45,706 --> 00:23:48,346
Speaker 2: a quarterback is that while the Patriots I think they have,

523
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:49,826
Speaker 2: you know, this is a team, it's still got a

524
00:23:49,866 --> 00:23:51,426
Speaker 2: lot of gaps to fill and it might be a

525
00:23:51,466 --> 00:23:53,226
Speaker 2: long year this year as they move into a post

526
00:23:53,266 --> 00:23:56,626
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick world. You know, the NFL, you could easily

527
00:23:56,706 --> 00:23:58,986
Speaker 2: fall to, like the seventh or eighth pick in the

528
00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:01,826
Speaker 2: draft with like a five and twelve, six and eleven

529
00:24:01,866 --> 00:24:04,066
Speaker 2: record and a couple of weird things take place, or

530
00:24:04,146 --> 00:24:05,826
Speaker 2: late in the season you play a team, it's all

531
00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:06,786
Speaker 2: sorts of bang up.

532
00:24:06,986 --> 00:24:07,746
Speaker 1: In the wilderness.

533
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:11,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you might take that draft draft capital that

534
00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:12,986
Speaker 2: you just acquired and then have to use it to

535
00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:15,866
Speaker 2: move back up because you need to solve your quarterback equation.

536
00:24:16,026 --> 00:24:19,226
Speaker 2: So I'm going to resist trade down temptation and go

537
00:24:19,306 --> 00:24:21,826
Speaker 2: with Drake May, who I don't know that he is

538
00:24:21,866 --> 00:24:24,546
Speaker 2: a lock there. If you talk about there are a

539
00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:26,986
Speaker 2: couple of players in this draft, but don't generate a

540
00:24:26,986 --> 00:24:29,946
Speaker 2: lot of divert divisive opinions. There are sums that some

541
00:24:30,026 --> 00:24:31,826
Speaker 2: players that tend to be a little bit more all

542
00:24:31,866 --> 00:24:33,666
Speaker 2: over the board. I don't think people have Drake May.

543
00:24:33,706 --> 00:24:35,186
Speaker 2: It's like a second round pick. But I think there

544
00:24:35,226 --> 00:24:37,346
Speaker 2: are some people that feel like he's absolutely worth every

545
00:24:37,386 --> 00:24:39,826
Speaker 2: penny at pick two or pick three. There are others

546
00:24:39,866 --> 00:24:41,506
Speaker 2: who say, I wish it were a little bit lower

547
00:24:41,546 --> 00:24:43,786
Speaker 2: that I were taking him. You don't have that luxury though.

548
00:24:43,786 --> 00:24:45,546
Speaker 2: If you're a team at the top, you take the

549
00:24:45,546 --> 00:24:47,466
Speaker 2: player the bird in hand, and I think there's a

550
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:50,906
Speaker 2: ton of potential for Drake May a ton. It may

551
00:24:50,946 --> 00:24:53,066
Speaker 2: take some time there, but a twenty twenty year old

552
00:24:53,226 --> 00:24:55,786
Speaker 2: six four two thirty with that arm, that's a rocket.

553
00:24:56,026 --> 00:24:57,066
Speaker 2: I'm betting on Drake May.

554
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Speaker 1: Basketball family, incredible athlete, great kid, superstar. In Charlotte. You

555
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:07,626
Speaker 1: know that Patriots Place in Fox That's like, you know,

556
00:25:07,706 --> 00:25:10,986
Speaker 1: it's right back. So they took them to Davio's at

557
00:25:11,026 --> 00:25:13,546
Speaker 1: Patriots Place a couple of weeks ago, wind and dined

558
00:25:13,586 --> 00:25:16,346
Speaker 1: them and I'm the great Italian steak house there you go.

559
00:25:16,426 --> 00:25:19,306
Speaker 1: I talked to multiple people in that building and they they,

560
00:25:19,426 --> 00:25:21,826
Speaker 1: I mean, they like Daniels and they're gonna love McCart.

561
00:25:21,826 --> 00:25:23,746
Speaker 1: They were spoken about about j who's meeting with him

562
00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:26,986
Speaker 1: this week, but they loved Drake May. I think they're

563
00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:29,866
Speaker 1: comfortable with Daniels or May and they'll take the chips

564
00:25:29,866 --> 00:25:31,386
Speaker 1: that fall as they may. And it's like, we're not

565
00:25:31,706 --> 00:25:34,146
Speaker 1: planning on being in the top three too often. Let's

566
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Just let's not overthink this.

567
00:25:36,626 --> 00:25:38,946
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chicago was in a unique spot last year where

568
00:25:39,106 --> 00:25:41,386
Speaker 2: Justin had still, you know, only two years into his career,

569
00:25:41,426 --> 00:25:43,866
Speaker 2: had shown enough promise that you could justify the trade

570
00:25:43,866 --> 00:25:46,506
Speaker 2: down and bet on the possibility of Justin ascending. Now,

571
00:25:46,506 --> 00:25:48,426
Speaker 2: they ended up getting the first overall pick this year,

572
00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:50,546
Speaker 2: so it was all moot. But you just it's a

573
00:25:50,586 --> 00:25:53,266
Speaker 2: really difficult thing because if you're moving down with Minnesota

574
00:25:53,306 --> 00:25:55,706
Speaker 2: as an example, comp Peter three to eleven, you're not

575
00:25:55,746 --> 00:25:57,866
Speaker 2: getting one of those first three or four quarterbacks, and

576
00:25:58,226 --> 00:26:01,306
Speaker 2: Minnesota with a good quarterback next year and vat roster,

577
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:03,546
Speaker 2: I know, you kidding me, like that pick that they

578
00:26:03,586 --> 00:26:05,786
Speaker 2: would potentially get in twenty twenty five could be like

579
00:26:05,946 --> 00:26:09,146
Speaker 2: twenty one two. Right, that's the risk you run. So

580
00:26:09,226 --> 00:26:12,026
Speaker 2: we feel good about the first three picks being quarterbacks.

581
00:26:12,466 --> 00:26:14,266
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's Patriots at three, but I

582
00:26:14,266 --> 00:26:17,026
Speaker 2: would guess the Patriots end up sticking at three, taking

583
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Speaker 2: a QB.

584
00:26:17,946 --> 00:26:21,946
Speaker 1: Number four the air. I just sip myself, the Arizona

585
00:26:21,986 --> 00:26:24,266
Speaker 1: Cardinals are on the clock. I'm going to use one

586
00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:25,626
Speaker 1: of my two trade ups.

587
00:26:25,626 --> 00:26:29,706
Speaker 2: Okay, one of two has been exhausted. Got here we go, the.

588
00:26:29,586 --> 00:26:35,106
Speaker 1: New York Giants two spots from six to four. Here's

589
00:26:35,106 --> 00:26:37,386
Speaker 1: the trade compensation. I've kind of gone through the Jimmy

590
00:26:37,426 --> 00:26:39,586
Speaker 1: Johnson chart and then talk to people around the league.

591
00:26:39,706 --> 00:26:42,866
Speaker 1: Because it's just two spots, I think it would be

592
00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:47,506
Speaker 1: the sixth overall pick, all right, a third round pick

593
00:26:47,546 --> 00:26:50,026
Speaker 1: from this year, and then next year's second round pick.

594
00:26:50,066 --> 00:26:51,426
Speaker 1: Does that seem too light or do you think it

595
00:26:51,426 --> 00:26:52,506
Speaker 1: would have to be a little bit more.

596
00:26:52,666 --> 00:26:54,626
Speaker 2: No, I think that's that's a good starting point. Now

597
00:26:54,626 --> 00:26:56,986
Speaker 2: Arizona will ask for more. I think Arizona would say

598
00:26:57,026 --> 00:26:58,826
Speaker 2: give us twenty twenty five to one and we have

599
00:26:58,866 --> 00:27:01,026
Speaker 2: a deal right away. I think the Giants would say,

600
00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:04,426
Speaker 2: let's negotiate. I remind people of this all the time.

601
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:07,186
Speaker 2: The draft charts a nice proxy, but they matter a

602
00:27:07,226 --> 00:27:10,106
Speaker 2: whole lot more the further you get from pick number one, right,

603
00:27:10,386 --> 00:27:14,306
Speaker 2: and when you're paying up the price for a quarterback premium,

604
00:27:14,386 --> 00:27:16,666
Speaker 2: you can expect that it's not going to follow the

605
00:27:16,746 --> 00:27:21,346
Speaker 2: chart perfectly. So regardless of what four sorry six plus

606
00:27:21,426 --> 00:27:24,106
Speaker 2: the Giants third rounder plus the twenty twenty five second

607
00:27:24,186 --> 00:27:27,866
Speaker 2: rounder says, according to whichever draft chart you like the most,

608
00:27:28,586 --> 00:27:31,746
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are going to quote unquote win that trade

609
00:27:31,746 --> 00:27:33,986
Speaker 2: based off of the draft value chart. But the Giants

610
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:37,266
Speaker 2: in this scenario, I would assume we're getting a quarterback. Yeah,

611
00:27:37,266 --> 00:27:41,066
Speaker 2: And to your point, Arizona is going to be listening

612
00:27:41,106 --> 00:27:43,946
Speaker 2: to offers. Minnesota, I truly believe is looking to move up.

613
00:27:44,026 --> 00:27:46,826
Speaker 2: I also think Denver would call, although they don't have

614
00:27:47,106 --> 00:27:49,706
Speaker 2: many picks to give up, and I think Vegas might call.

615
00:27:49,746 --> 00:27:52,706
Speaker 1: I think all that might happen. But I think when

616
00:27:52,746 --> 00:27:55,066
Speaker 1: you're Arizona and you could get one of the wide

617
00:27:55,106 --> 00:27:58,346
Speaker 1: receivers at six, thank you, Yes, it's and you're not

618
00:27:58,386 --> 00:28:00,826
Speaker 1: getting them at eleven, you're not getting them at twelve,

619
00:28:00,946 --> 00:28:03,426
Speaker 1: you're not getting at thirteen. So it's a lot less

620
00:28:03,466 --> 00:28:05,586
Speaker 1: pain to move back to spots. I think you might

621
00:28:05,626 --> 00:28:08,866
Speaker 1: even be where to take less trade compensation.

622
00:28:08,706 --> 00:28:10,226
Speaker 2: Completely the future picks.

623
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Speaker 1: So I'm going Giants, and then, gosh, a lot of

624
00:28:13,546 --> 00:28:16,786
Speaker 1: Giants fans are gonna throw their remotes at the screen

625
00:28:16,906 --> 00:28:18,986
Speaker 1: because I know that there's a lot of people out

626
00:28:18,986 --> 00:28:21,346
Speaker 1: there who don't want to giant, big blue fans in

627
00:28:21,386 --> 00:28:23,426
Speaker 1: my life who are like, no, it's just Daniel Jones

628
00:28:23,466 --> 00:28:25,346
Speaker 1: two point zero, don't do this again. We still pay

629
00:28:25,426 --> 00:28:27,986
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones JJ McCarthy fourth to the Giants.

630
00:28:28,066 --> 00:28:30,306
Speaker 2: There you go. I'm not surprised by that one. There.

631
00:28:31,146 --> 00:28:33,506
Speaker 2: I think the most important point you made beyond the

632
00:28:33,586 --> 00:28:36,186
Speaker 2: Giants taking a quarterback is that the real risk that

633
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:38,826
Speaker 2: Arizona runs and moving too far down is missing out

634
00:28:38,906 --> 00:28:40,906
Speaker 2: on one of these. I'm not going to use the

635
00:28:40,906 --> 00:28:43,986
Speaker 2: word generational, but one of these I think surefire wide

636
00:28:44,026 --> 00:28:47,426
Speaker 2: receivers because there are three. The depth is tremendous, but

637
00:28:47,466 --> 00:28:49,746
Speaker 2: there are three that really are a cut above.

638
00:28:50,106 --> 00:28:53,186
Speaker 1: I think there's three and there's a big gap, and

639
00:28:53,226 --> 00:28:55,266
Speaker 1: then there's gonna be like five others taken in the

640
00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:57,586
Speaker 1: first round. That's how good this wide receiver draft is.

641
00:28:57,826 --> 00:29:00,426
Speaker 2: Totally agree So number five is the Chargers. I am

642
00:29:00,426 --> 00:29:03,586
Speaker 2: going to Obviously, in this scenario, the trade up has

643
00:29:03,626 --> 00:29:05,946
Speaker 2: already kind of taken place to shake up the top five.

644
00:29:06,546 --> 00:29:09,426
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say, hey, we have Marvin Harrison

645
00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:12,826
Speaker 2: Junior sitting here waiting for us. Now, I have heard

646
00:29:12,906 --> 00:29:15,506
Speaker 2: all of you very smart people, including Jim Harbaugh himself,

647
00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:18,266
Speaker 2: kind of alluding to it the importance of offensive line

648
00:29:18,266 --> 00:29:21,306
Speaker 2: play that should not be dismissed at all. But in

649
00:29:21,306 --> 00:29:23,586
Speaker 2: this scenario where I don't think another team's going to

650
00:29:23,586 --> 00:29:26,146
Speaker 2: be tempted to move up to five here, I just

651
00:29:26,466 --> 00:29:29,746
Speaker 2: I think Minnesota, as an example, might be willing to

652
00:29:29,826 --> 00:29:33,026
Speaker 2: run the risk, play the game stand pat a game

653
00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:35,826
Speaker 2: of chicken here and say, if we love and I

654
00:29:35,826 --> 00:29:39,066
Speaker 2: don't know they love Michael Pennix junior bon Nicks enough

655
00:29:39,106 --> 00:29:41,466
Speaker 2: to potentially take him in the first round, we might

656
00:29:41,506 --> 00:29:45,106
Speaker 2: be okay with just sitting at pick eleven and hoping

657
00:29:45,106 --> 00:29:47,426
Speaker 2: that things work out. So the Chargers end up taking

658
00:29:47,426 --> 00:29:49,946
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. To me, the most pro ready player

659
00:29:49,946 --> 00:29:52,786
Speaker 2: in the class twenty eight, receiving touchdowns over the past

660
00:29:52,826 --> 00:29:55,826
Speaker 2: two years, Peter and most in FBS. What's so impressive

661
00:29:55,866 --> 00:29:59,466
Speaker 2: about him is the consistency I'm c J. Shroud superstar.

662
00:29:59,826 --> 00:30:02,946
Speaker 2: Maybe the best rookie season ever for a quarterback this

663
00:30:02,986 --> 00:30:05,586
Speaker 2: past year, though Kyle McCord that that was a disappointing

664
00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:07,946
Speaker 2: Ohio State off. It's a number of plays left on

665
00:30:07,986 --> 00:30:11,466
Speaker 2: the field was really kind of stunning, except for when

666
00:30:11,506 --> 00:30:14,826
Speaker 2: they involved Marvin Harrison. He still went nuts. Yeah, nuts, Yeah.

667
00:30:14,866 --> 00:30:18,586
Speaker 1: I love that pick. And truly, if anyone knows what

668
00:30:18,626 --> 00:30:20,586
Speaker 1: he can do, it's the guy who played against him

669
00:30:20,626 --> 00:30:23,066
Speaker 1: in the Big Game three different times and they're coached

670
00:30:23,066 --> 00:30:26,586
Speaker 1: against him, that would be Jim Harbaugh. I love that pick.

671
00:30:26,666 --> 00:30:28,826
Speaker 1: I think that's the right pick, especially with Keenan Allen

672
00:30:28,866 --> 00:30:32,986
Speaker 1: gone and Mike Williams gone. Six. Now it's Arizona. I

673
00:30:32,986 --> 00:30:34,666
Speaker 1: think they put their card in. I know they have

674
00:30:34,746 --> 00:30:36,666
Speaker 1: offensive line needs, I know they have a lot of

675
00:30:36,706 --> 00:30:38,666
Speaker 1: needs on defense, but I don't think they let Roma

676
00:30:38,746 --> 00:30:40,826
Speaker 1: Dunes they fall out of the top six. I'm gonna

677
00:30:40,826 --> 00:30:45,266
Speaker 1: go Romadonsay, wide receiver out of Washington. Kyler Murray gets

678
00:30:45,306 --> 00:30:47,666
Speaker 1: his guy, and I'm sure you're hearing all the same stuff.

679
00:30:47,706 --> 00:30:52,586
Speaker 1: I am great player, maybe a better human. I hate

680
00:30:52,586 --> 00:30:54,626
Speaker 1: that term because it's so like it's like just but

681
00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:59,186
Speaker 1: like this guy is all World Corner. Yeah, tell me that.

682
00:31:00,106 --> 00:31:02,306
Speaker 2: I had the great fortune of being at both the

683
00:31:02,426 --> 00:31:04,626
Speaker 2: organ and the Washington Pro Day. Oregon was early in

684
00:31:04,626 --> 00:31:06,546
Speaker 2: the cycle. It was day two of free agencies. A

685
00:31:06,546 --> 00:31:09,746
Speaker 2: little sparse for crowd. Washington, big crowd. They've got a

686
00:31:09,746 --> 00:31:11,906
Speaker 2: ton of guys obviously this year, maybe ten or twelve

687
00:31:11,946 --> 00:31:15,586
Speaker 2: or whatever. It is the end of getting drafted. Let

688
00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:17,826
Speaker 2: me let me reach up. We're close to ten. Could

689
00:31:17,866 --> 00:31:20,026
Speaker 2: potentially be drafted from Washington then never may not be

690
00:31:20,066 --> 00:31:22,946
Speaker 2: exactly that, but Rome opted not to take part in

691
00:31:22,986 --> 00:31:25,026
Speaker 2: the Pro Day after working out the combin right, he

692
00:31:25,106 --> 00:31:27,346
Speaker 2: was the one receiver of that top group that did everything.

693
00:31:27,986 --> 00:31:29,986
Speaker 2: But the involvement that he had, Peter, I mean it

694
00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:32,946
Speaker 2: was awesome, like he was as involved as somebody could

695
00:31:32,986 --> 00:31:36,746
Speaker 2: be without actually taking part in the Pro Day. As

696
00:31:36,786 --> 00:31:39,946
Speaker 2: everybody was watching Michael Pennix Junior run his forty, I

697
00:31:40,026 --> 00:31:41,986
Speaker 2: was sitting there amongst you know, by one hundred and

698
00:31:41,986 --> 00:31:44,026
Speaker 2: twenty five scouts that are all you know, working the

699
00:31:44,026 --> 00:31:46,866
Speaker 2: stopwatches in Rome sitting there as well. And after the

700
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,586
Speaker 2: forty he I don't know why he turned him, you know,

701
00:31:48,866 --> 00:31:50,786
Speaker 2: a group that included me, but he's like, what'd you guys?

702
00:31:50,786 --> 00:31:52,666
Speaker 2: Get what'd you guys have? You know? And I'm like, well,

703
00:31:53,426 --> 00:31:55,426
Speaker 2: I'm not a scout room, but thank you, but it

704
00:31:55,466 --> 00:31:58,306
Speaker 2: was awesome. His encouragement for others and everybody of that

705
00:31:58,386 --> 00:32:02,346
Speaker 2: program echoed that sentiment that this is an A plus human.

706
00:32:02,746 --> 00:32:04,026
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here in front of the

707
00:32:04,026 --> 00:32:06,106
Speaker 2: Bay two on Rome versus Malik Neighbors, Peter, I think

708
00:32:06,106 --> 00:32:08,546
Speaker 2: it's said energy. I think the reality is that you're

709
00:32:08,586 --> 00:32:11,066
Speaker 2: talking about guys who, if we use an arbitrary one

710
00:32:11,186 --> 00:32:13,066
Speaker 2: to one hundred scale, these at all be you know,

711
00:32:13,146 --> 00:32:17,306
Speaker 2: ninety eight, ninety nine's ninety seven, So we can bicker. Ultimately,

712
00:32:17,426 --> 00:32:19,946
Speaker 2: the only people that it matters to about whether they

713
00:32:20,026 --> 00:32:22,386
Speaker 2: go wide receiver one, two or three are the first

714
00:32:22,426 --> 00:32:25,786
Speaker 2: two teams to take a wide receiver. So if Roma

715
00:32:25,826 --> 00:32:28,386
Speaker 2: Dunze ends up being better than the league Neighbors, then

716
00:32:28,546 --> 00:32:30,866
Speaker 2: if Neighbors goes ahead of Romaduonze, the team that takes

717
00:32:30,906 --> 00:32:32,786
Speaker 2: Neighbors will have to live with that. But ultimately, I

718
00:32:32,786 --> 00:32:35,306
Speaker 2: think all three of these guys are just outstanding.

719
00:32:35,586 --> 00:32:37,226
Speaker 1: Let me let me do a quick reset here, so

720
00:32:37,546 --> 00:32:41,746
Speaker 1: please One Chicago Caleb Williams, two Washington Jaden Daniels three

721
00:32:41,786 --> 00:32:44,706
Speaker 1: New England Drake May four New York Giants, JJ McCarthy,

722
00:32:45,186 --> 00:32:49,706
Speaker 1: five Los Angeles Chargers, Marvin Harrison Junior, six Arizona Cardinals

723
00:32:49,706 --> 00:32:52,146
Speaker 1: take Roma Dunsay wide receiver at A Washington, which goes

724
00:32:52,146 --> 00:32:56,826
Speaker 1: to seven Tennessee Titans. Field Yates. You are the Tennessee

725
00:32:56,986 --> 00:32:59,466
Speaker 1: front office and coaching staff. Your selection is whom.

726
00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,706
Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's the truth, Peter. I want to trade

727
00:33:01,706 --> 00:33:02,906
Speaker 2: down right now? Is that I want to do and

728
00:33:02,946 --> 00:33:04,586
Speaker 2: here's the reason why. I don't know who I'm going

729
00:33:04,626 --> 00:33:05,746
Speaker 2: to do it with. And I'm not sure that I

730
00:33:05,746 --> 00:33:10,226
Speaker 2: can execute this right now. So I am going to

731
00:33:10,226 --> 00:33:12,466
Speaker 2: pick a team, any team. I don't have a team,

732
00:33:12,506 --> 00:33:14,586
Speaker 2: and that's kind of killing me right now, I think.

733
00:33:14,746 --> 00:33:17,066
Speaker 2: So I'm going to do two things. I'm going to

734
00:33:17,146 --> 00:33:23,066
Speaker 2: state that I believe Tennessee is a compelling trade down team. Okay,

735
00:33:23,586 --> 00:33:24,986
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some fun here. Let me just rup

736
00:33:24,986 --> 00:33:26,546
Speaker 2: things a little bit. Okay, let's do it. Let's shake it.

737
00:33:26,586 --> 00:33:27,786
Speaker 1: That's what the whole thing is. Exercise.

738
00:33:28,306 --> 00:33:30,186
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be tough to do because they have

739
00:33:30,426 --> 00:33:33,146
Speaker 2: they have paid premiums recently. I'm having the New Orleans

740
00:33:33,146 --> 00:33:34,026
Speaker 2: Saints trade up here.

741
00:33:34,066 --> 00:33:34,906
Speaker 1: I love this go on.

742
00:33:35,666 --> 00:33:37,586
Speaker 2: The Titans are at seven, they have a glaring needed

743
00:33:37,626 --> 00:33:39,986
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. We all acknowledge that when I am not

744
00:33:40,146 --> 00:33:42,466
Speaker 2: convinced of Peters that while I have Joe Walt as

745
00:33:42,506 --> 00:33:44,866
Speaker 2: the number one tackle on my board, and I think

746
00:33:44,946 --> 00:33:47,826
Speaker 2: many in the draft industry complex have it the same way,

747
00:33:47,946 --> 00:33:50,786
Speaker 2: I am not convinced that the league has complete consensus

748
00:33:50,786 --> 00:33:55,266
Speaker 2: that is head and shoulders above Tali Fuaga or old

749
00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:58,346
Speaker 2: the fashioned new Troy fot Utana, whoever it might be, right,

750
00:33:58,746 --> 00:34:01,626
Speaker 2: it's closely clustered enough. And with quarterback it's kind of

751
00:34:01,666 --> 00:34:03,426
Speaker 2: like house hunting, right, like if you don't get your

752
00:34:03,466 --> 00:34:06,906
Speaker 2: preferred target, you might move on. Right with offense of linemen,

753
00:34:07,586 --> 00:34:10,746
Speaker 2: especially when you have one of the absolute greatest to

754
00:34:10,746 --> 00:34:12,706
Speaker 2: ever do it, in Bill Callaghan. He might say, hey,

755
00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:15,706
Speaker 2: you guys are all happy with Joel seven. Yeah, but

756
00:34:15,786 --> 00:34:17,986
Speaker 2: if we're at fourteen we get Olu Fashioner, I'm cool

757
00:34:17,986 --> 00:34:18,306
Speaker 2: with it too.

758
00:34:18,546 --> 00:34:19,426
Speaker 1: I could coach him up.

759
00:34:19,906 --> 00:34:22,066
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do my trade down. So the Saints

760
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:24,826
Speaker 2: now at seven and the Titans at fourteen, I do

761
00:34:24,826 --> 00:34:27,106
Speaker 2: think the Saints have a desperate needed offensive tackle. They

762
00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:30,146
Speaker 2: may say, hey, let's address that, I too, all right,

763
00:34:30,706 --> 00:34:32,706
Speaker 2: and that which may have to be part of this

764
00:34:32,706 --> 00:34:33,306
Speaker 2: this this.

765
00:34:33,666 --> 00:34:36,026
Speaker 1: Let's just say this is a swap of seven and

766
00:34:36,106 --> 00:34:38,346
Speaker 1: fourteen and we'll go future first round or something like that.

767
00:34:38,306 --> 00:34:40,626
Speaker 2: Sounds right to me. Off the board, he stays home

768
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:43,906
Speaker 2: New Orleans, neighbors and a lave. I love it. Yeah,

769
00:34:43,946 --> 00:34:45,546
Speaker 2: And then they do need a wide receiver here. You

770
00:34:45,546 --> 00:34:48,626
Speaker 2: know there are as in investments, you know, relatively modest.

771
00:34:48,666 --> 00:34:50,986
Speaker 2: Cedric Wilson on a two year deal. Guy who's released,

772
00:34:51,666 --> 00:34:54,586
Speaker 2: I guess he's Conjuringspirer to Miami. So I think New

773
00:34:54,666 --> 00:34:57,626
Speaker 2: Orleans is a sneaky wide receiver team, and it's right

774
00:34:57,666 --> 00:34:59,826
Speaker 2: here would be as good as it gets on the

775
00:34:59,826 --> 00:35:02,026
Speaker 2: wide receiver front. I love fun here.

776
00:35:02,106 --> 00:35:04,826
Speaker 1: And jumping Atlanta at a who might have been in

777
00:35:04,866 --> 00:35:09,746
Speaker 1: the neighbors quote. It's funny. The regime everyone thinks is

778
00:35:09,786 --> 00:35:12,586
Speaker 1: like an old regime because Roheie Morris coach, But it's

779
00:35:12,626 --> 00:35:15,466
Speaker 1: not true because Terry Fonteo in Atlanta, the GM is

780
00:35:15,506 --> 00:35:20,466
Speaker 1: the one who drafted Pits and London and Bijon, And

781
00:35:20,506 --> 00:35:23,826
Speaker 1: it's three different offensive players at skill positions in the

782
00:35:23,866 --> 00:35:28,186
Speaker 1: top ten in three consecutive years. I don't see an

783
00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:31,786
Speaker 1: offensive skill position player now as we have gone quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

784
00:35:31,786 --> 00:35:34,466
Speaker 1: wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. I think Atlanta takes

785
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:37,866
Speaker 1: the first defensive player off the board. I'm going Dallas Turner,

786
00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:40,226
Speaker 1: pass rusher out of Alabama.

787
00:35:40,386 --> 00:35:41,906
Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing we know, I'll just make this in.

788
00:35:42,106 --> 00:35:43,946
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot to try to disrupt this,

789
00:35:44,026 --> 00:35:47,626
Speaker 2: but Terry Fonteau, the Falcons GM targets young players. Has

790
00:35:47,626 --> 00:35:50,986
Speaker 2: been a big part of his calculus. And Dallas Turner there,

791
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,866
Speaker 2: he's a true junior. Right, so it's only got three

792
00:35:52,946 --> 00:35:53,786
Speaker 2: years in colleges.

793
00:35:53,826 --> 00:35:56,226
Speaker 1: You know one of your contributors I've played yep.

794
00:35:56,266 --> 00:35:58,226
Speaker 2: I'll play them all yep. And was the SEC Defensive

795
00:35:58,226 --> 00:36:00,746
Speaker 2: Player of the Year this past year. Great length, right, athleticism,

796
00:36:00,826 --> 00:36:05,586
Speaker 2: ten plus sacks, versatility as well the Falcons, like I mean,

797
00:36:05,626 --> 00:36:08,266
Speaker 2: Terry Foutna has or he's lean young. Maybe it's too

798
00:36:08,266 --> 00:36:09,986
Speaker 2: small to sample size to say that this is a

799
00:36:10,026 --> 00:36:12,226
Speaker 2: forever trend, but back to back to back years of

800
00:36:12,266 --> 00:36:14,146
Speaker 2: going very young. Make it the fourth straight year. So

801
00:36:14,186 --> 00:36:16,026
Speaker 2: that brings us to the Jets at number.

802
00:36:15,786 --> 00:36:18,066
Speaker 1: Ten, It doesn't it brings us to the Bears at

803
00:36:18,146 --> 00:36:18,706
Speaker 1: number nine.

804
00:36:18,746 --> 00:36:22,306
Speaker 2: It brings us to the Bears at number nine, all right, So, Peter,

805
00:36:22,426 --> 00:36:25,186
Speaker 2: this one's really interesting, and this might be one of

806
00:36:25,186 --> 00:36:27,866
Speaker 2: those where, like the bear's screaming needs right now are

807
00:36:27,906 --> 00:36:29,786
Speaker 2: no longer screaming, right. I mean, they have a lot

808
00:36:29,826 --> 00:36:31,906
Speaker 2: of work this offseason. I think if one of the

809
00:36:31,906 --> 00:36:34,586
Speaker 2: three receivers is here, it's really, really, really tempting to

810
00:36:34,706 --> 00:36:37,586
Speaker 2: just take whoever is available out of Molie Neighbors or

811
00:36:37,586 --> 00:36:41,666
Speaker 2: potentially Ramadoonza. I think that Ed Rusher is certainly a

812
00:36:41,706 --> 00:36:44,466
Speaker 2: consideration as well, even after the Montes sweat trade, but

813
00:36:44,586 --> 00:36:46,786
Speaker 2: no Dallas Turner here. Layout to Lati will get to

814
00:36:46,826 --> 00:36:48,986
Speaker 2: it at some point, but I do think that given

815
00:36:49,026 --> 00:36:51,186
Speaker 2: the medical history, there are some that might feel as

816
00:36:51,226 --> 00:36:53,506
Speaker 2: though inside that top ten could come with too much risk.

817
00:36:53,746 --> 00:36:56,506
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the offensive line, and they do. Obviously,

818
00:36:56,506 --> 00:36:58,626
Speaker 2: they made a big investment in Darnell right last year,

819
00:36:58,906 --> 00:37:00,866
Speaker 2: so this is not a right tackle investment and it

820
00:37:00,866 --> 00:37:03,906
Speaker 2: may not necessarily be a left tackle investment either. And

821
00:37:03,946 --> 00:37:05,146
Speaker 2: this is where it gets fun. Do you take a

822
00:37:05,226 --> 00:37:07,706
Speaker 2: Joe Waltz or do you take a Tay Fought Utanu?

823
00:37:08,146 --> 00:37:11,466
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna lean towards fot Utanu here. Really the board,

824
00:37:11,506 --> 00:37:12,506
Speaker 2: I love that off the board.

825
00:37:12,546 --> 00:37:15,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Hey, no one had right going as the

826
00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:17,466
Speaker 1: first offensive tackle last year and he did, so this

827
00:37:17,546 --> 00:37:18,746
Speaker 1: is this could be true.

828
00:37:18,626 --> 00:37:22,226
Speaker 2: This may be crazy. But so with Braxton Jones at

829
00:37:22,266 --> 00:37:24,946
Speaker 2: left tackle, who's a thirty year player now, brown pick

830
00:37:24,986 --> 00:37:26,786
Speaker 2: out of Southern Utah a few years ago. The Bears

831
00:37:26,786 --> 00:37:28,706
Speaker 2: are in good shape, but not like this is not

832
00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:32,786
Speaker 2: I think he's a good player. I don't think, yeah,

833
00:37:32,866 --> 00:37:35,266
Speaker 2: we're not if he were to eventually be replaced by

834
00:37:35,306 --> 00:37:38,146
Speaker 2: this player. It's not like you're replacing Trent Williams and

835
00:37:37,506 --> 00:37:40,986
Speaker 2: his prime. So Troy fot Wutan, who at worst, Peter

836
00:37:41,306 --> 00:37:44,586
Speaker 2: is you're super sub at left tackle, left guard, right guard,

837
00:37:44,666 --> 00:37:46,226
Speaker 2: right tackle. I think he's a Day one starter a

838
00:37:46,306 --> 00:37:49,546
Speaker 2: guard for the Bears. And maybe maybe you're saying that

839
00:37:49,626 --> 00:37:52,106
Speaker 2: this is too much of an investment for back to

840
00:37:52,146 --> 00:37:54,266
Speaker 2: back years taking a right tackle and then potentially an

841
00:37:54,266 --> 00:37:56,626
Speaker 2: in tier offensive lineman. You got a young quarterback. I

842
00:37:56,666 --> 00:37:59,906
Speaker 2: am sort of saying, I don't care about the conventional norms.

843
00:37:59,946 --> 00:38:02,106
Speaker 2: I am taking Troy fot Utan here and now the

844
00:38:02,186 --> 00:38:04,106
Speaker 2: Jets around the clock and maybe the dreams.

845
00:38:04,546 --> 00:38:07,266
Speaker 1: I don't know about the dream scenario a sion And look,

846
00:38:07,306 --> 00:38:09,266
Speaker 1: you say, Joe Alt's there like that's a dream scenario.

847
00:38:09,626 --> 00:38:14,626
Speaker 1: But then I don't know they Rock Bowers is really

848
00:38:15,106 --> 00:38:18,306
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, that's a and the Jets from everyone. Look,

849
00:38:18,506 --> 00:38:20,586
Speaker 1: there's certain teams unplugged in with Jets or one of them.

850
00:38:20,586 --> 00:38:24,786
Speaker 1: They've told me. Anything's on the board obviously, and trade

851
00:38:24,786 --> 00:38:27,106
Speaker 1: back is an option. So they don't have a second

852
00:38:27,146 --> 00:38:29,586
Speaker 1: round pick this year? Do they think about trading back

853
00:38:29,626 --> 00:38:32,266
Speaker 1: here and collecting some more pieces? All right? If it

854
00:38:32,306 --> 00:38:35,466
Speaker 1: goes this way, gosh, offensive tackle versus tight end, I'm

855
00:38:35,506 --> 00:38:38,666
Speaker 1: going down to alt or Bowers.

856
00:38:40,306 --> 00:38:43,386
Speaker 2: Gosh, I know it's fun.

857
00:38:43,466 --> 00:38:45,586
Speaker 1: Right When did they take Beckon then the eleventh pick

858
00:38:45,626 --> 00:38:46,306
Speaker 1: couple of years ago?

859
00:38:46,346 --> 00:38:46,626
Speaker 2: Eleven?

860
00:38:46,826 --> 00:38:49,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's already a flame out and I don't think

861
00:38:49,346 --> 00:38:50,426
Speaker 1: he's been signed anywhere.

862
00:38:51,466 --> 00:38:55,026
Speaker 2: All will not be that. Gosh, that's I would agree

863
00:38:55,066 --> 00:38:56,426
Speaker 2: on that, all right.

864
00:38:56,466 --> 00:39:03,106
Speaker 1: For the sake of I'm gonna go Rock Bowers tight

865
00:39:03,226 --> 00:39:06,626
Speaker 1: end over Joe al might they might regret that, but

866
00:39:06,666 --> 00:39:09,426
Speaker 1: you know what, I feel like Rogers might want some

867
00:39:09,466 --> 00:39:12,146
Speaker 1: weapons and Bowers can, Bowers can ball. I'm gonna go

868
00:39:12,226 --> 00:39:16,306
Speaker 1: Bowers to the Jets at eleven. At ten. Oh, that

869
00:39:16,346 --> 00:39:19,146
Speaker 1: felt weird, which leads to the Minnesota Vikings, who did

870
00:39:19,146 --> 00:39:22,266
Speaker 1: not get one of the top four quarterbacks at number eleven.

871
00:39:22,266 --> 00:39:23,586
Speaker 1: Field eight's here on the clock.

872
00:39:23,786 --> 00:39:26,186
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thoughts here would be quarterback. I just don't

873
00:39:26,226 --> 00:39:28,666
Speaker 2: know that's the right spot there. You know, there's some

874
00:39:28,706 --> 00:39:30,786
Speaker 2: good offensive lineman here, but they've got a great tackle

875
00:39:30,866 --> 00:39:35,626
Speaker 2: duo ed rusher. Still feels like a need here. So

876
00:39:36,026 --> 00:39:41,266
Speaker 2: I thought that maybe because quasy Dopha. Benza has obviously

877
00:39:41,266 --> 00:39:43,906
Speaker 2: has Cleveland roots, San Francisco roots as well Cleveland. Andrew

878
00:39:43,946 --> 00:39:47,146
Speaker 2: Berry certainly a skewed, very young at his high caliber

879
00:39:47,186 --> 00:39:49,706
Speaker 2: picks right Also, like I was talking on Terry Fontno,

880
00:39:50,426 --> 00:39:53,506
Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Gregson, very prominent role there in Minnesota

881
00:39:53,586 --> 00:39:56,066
Speaker 2: former Colts GM, and I think that he's got enough

882
00:39:56,066 --> 00:39:57,666
Speaker 2: of the voice that they may say, you know, we're

883
00:39:57,666 --> 00:39:59,666
Speaker 2: not going to stick to just you know, young guys.

884
00:39:59,986 --> 00:40:01,226
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go lay out to a lot too.

885
00:40:01,226 --> 00:40:02,786
Speaker 2: Peter and I just mentioned how like he's it too

886
00:40:02,866 --> 00:40:04,386
Speaker 2: much of a risk inside the top ten. Is it

887
00:40:04,426 --> 00:40:07,026
Speaker 2: possible to take him outside the top ten a number eleven,

888
00:40:07,146 --> 00:40:08,706
Speaker 2: So I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth

889
00:40:08,746 --> 00:40:10,986
Speaker 2: and just saying based off how the board fail right now,

890
00:40:11,226 --> 00:40:13,066
Speaker 2: I'm going to play out to Latsu and I'm doing

891
00:40:13,066 --> 00:40:16,386
Speaker 2: this with the implicit sort of understanding or acknowledgment that

892
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:19,266
Speaker 2: their medical staff is comfortable with where things are at,

893
00:40:19,546 --> 00:40:23,306
Speaker 2: and Alto is a terrific player, such an advanced, nuanced

894
00:40:23,346 --> 00:40:25,626
Speaker 2: pass rusher. So they lose to Neil Hunter, and they

895
00:40:25,706 --> 00:40:28,706
Speaker 2: replace him with Jonathan Grenard and also lely Onto a lot.

896
00:40:29,066 --> 00:40:30,706
Speaker 1: I don't think if you're a Vikings fan, you could

897
00:40:30,706 --> 00:40:32,506
Speaker 1: complain about that pick at all. You'd look at the

898
00:40:32,506 --> 00:40:35,386
Speaker 1: board and you'd say, Okay, that's that's how it fell.

899
00:40:35,506 --> 00:40:37,946
Speaker 1: We didn't give up the next five drafts. We didn't

900
00:40:37,946 --> 00:40:39,986
Speaker 1: get the quarterback, but let's get the best, you know,

901
00:40:40,586 --> 00:40:42,506
Speaker 1: first or second best pass rusher in this draft, which

902
00:40:42,586 --> 00:40:45,946
Speaker 1: leads to Denver at twelve. I've got two guys in

903
00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:50,906
Speaker 1: mind here, neither one being a quarterback. I'm gonna if

904
00:40:50,946 --> 00:40:54,026
Speaker 1: I'm Denver, I'm thinking here, okay, we're gonna go Joe

905
00:40:54,066 --> 00:40:59,386
Speaker 1: Alt offensive tackle. I know they've got they're paying Mike

906
00:40:59,466 --> 00:41:02,226
Speaker 1: mclinchee a lot of money, and they obviously have Garrett Bowles,

907
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:02,986
Speaker 1: but I think.

908
00:41:03,306 --> 00:41:05,146
Speaker 2: In his thirty now he came in the league, is

909
00:41:05,146 --> 00:41:07,626
Speaker 2: an older player right now. You know it was a

910
00:41:07,706 --> 00:41:10,226
Speaker 2: late entrant and he had I believe he had turned

911
00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:12,986
Speaker 2: college as a mission that he took. Yes, so he's

912
00:41:13,026 --> 00:41:15,266
Speaker 2: an older prospect. Or he was an older prospect. So

913
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:17,906
Speaker 2: he's at the point now where like looking towards the future,

914
00:41:17,946 --> 00:41:19,946
Speaker 2: it's not the worst thing in the world. Plus Joe

915
00:41:19,946 --> 00:41:21,226
Speaker 2: hold it picked twelve is pretty darn.

916
00:41:21,106 --> 00:41:23,066
Speaker 1: Good, right, pretty good, and they don't have to mortgage

917
00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:25,426
Speaker 1: the future to get it. And another team that didn't

918
00:41:25,426 --> 00:41:28,586
Speaker 1: get a quarterback at eleven or twelve or twelve, but

919
00:41:28,946 --> 00:41:31,026
Speaker 1: I think they'd be happy there, which leads to the

920
00:41:31,106 --> 00:41:32,506
Speaker 1: Raiders at thirteen.

921
00:41:32,586 --> 00:41:34,506
Speaker 2: You're on the clock, buddy, Yep, I'm going to make

922
00:41:34,506 --> 00:41:41,386
Speaker 2: it easy here, Michael Pennix Junior. And yeah, right, I

923
00:41:41,426 --> 00:41:43,266
Speaker 2: haven't read your mock yet this morning, and there's a

924
00:41:43,346 --> 00:41:45,106
Speaker 2: chance that he's not even in the first round. I

925
00:41:45,106 --> 00:41:47,666
Speaker 2: don't know. I am going to this unvarnished. I am

926
00:41:48,466 --> 00:41:50,506
Speaker 2: not at all. I have no idea what you said,

927
00:41:50,586 --> 00:41:54,386
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna acknowledge that right away. But Michael Pennix

928
00:41:54,466 --> 00:41:57,626
Speaker 2: Junior would feel, you know, there's an interesting team, right.

929
00:41:57,626 --> 00:41:59,586
Speaker 2: They're saying all the right things about Aidan O'Connell and

930
00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:01,426
Speaker 2: how he's going to have to lose the job for

931
00:42:01,546 --> 00:42:03,546
Speaker 2: someone to take over for him, and they signed gard

932
00:42:03,546 --> 00:42:05,426
Speaker 2: new Minister this two year deal. But if you look

933
00:42:05,426 --> 00:42:08,266
Speaker 2: at the quarterback market, like nothing about the finance that

934
00:42:08,346 --> 00:42:12,586
Speaker 2: says guaranteed starter. So Michael Pennix Junior ends up in

935
00:42:12,986 --> 00:42:16,066
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. It's really tough to pass on both Olu

936
00:42:16,106 --> 00:42:19,506
Speaker 2: Fashionu and also Tali Fluaga, especially Puaga because they have

937
00:42:19,626 --> 00:42:21,706
Speaker 2: Colton Miller. He could be a plug and play right

938
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:25,786
Speaker 2: tackle there. But I end up with Michael Pennix Junior

939
00:42:25,786 --> 00:42:29,986
Speaker 2: at thirteen. Dude, I love that. I love having fought, haven't.

940
00:42:29,986 --> 00:42:32,346
Speaker 2: But I should say this. I know entertainment rules, and

941
00:42:32,386 --> 00:42:35,186
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to know. There's a lot of arguments.

942
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:37,706
Speaker 2: There's sort of conceivable. I think this is a not

943
00:42:37,826 --> 00:42:39,426
Speaker 2: to be dismissed possibility.

944
00:42:39,706 --> 00:42:42,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would also say if bo Nicks went

945
00:42:42,186 --> 00:42:45,106
Speaker 1: twelve to Denver, I wouldn't bat and eye either. Like,

946
00:42:46,066 --> 00:42:49,346
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are at a premium and there are about six

947
00:42:49,386 --> 00:42:50,786
Speaker 1: of them that are going to go in the first

948
00:42:50,866 --> 00:42:52,506
Speaker 1: or second round. If you like them enough to take

949
00:42:52,546 --> 00:42:54,586
Speaker 1: them in the thirties, you might as well take them

950
00:42:54,586 --> 00:42:55,586
Speaker 1: at twelve or thirteen.

951
00:42:55,706 --> 00:42:58,226
Speaker 2: That's how I feel as well, totally all right.

952
00:42:58,106 --> 00:42:59,906
Speaker 1: So the Titans are on the board now because of

953
00:42:59,946 --> 00:43:00,946
Speaker 1: your Saints trade.

954
00:43:01,026 --> 00:43:03,986
Speaker 2: I mean, this is perfect scenario for them, perfect just.

955
00:43:03,986 --> 00:43:06,626
Speaker 1: A bunch of offensive tackles that they can still live there.

956
00:43:06,706 --> 00:43:11,506
Speaker 1: All there, I will go with Talisa Fuaga at Oregon

957
00:43:11,706 --> 00:43:16,986
Speaker 1: State as their pick at fourteen. I got to talk

958
00:43:16,986 --> 00:43:19,506
Speaker 1: with him at the combine. That is all business. He

959
00:43:19,626 --> 00:43:22,946
Speaker 1: is a maller and whatever team gets him is going

960
00:43:22,986 --> 00:43:25,906
Speaker 1: to love his his attitude in addition to the play.

961
00:43:25,946 --> 00:43:26,946
Speaker 1: I love I love his game.

962
00:43:27,066 --> 00:43:28,626
Speaker 2: All right, let me just say one thing to help

963
00:43:28,666 --> 00:43:30,546
Speaker 2: you out here. It's a tough first name to pronounce.

964
00:43:30,586 --> 00:43:32,506
Speaker 2: I've hurt him. I've heard him do interviews and people

965
00:43:32,906 --> 00:43:36,586
Speaker 2: have different ways and he's icknowledged them both. But on

966
00:43:36,626 --> 00:43:38,706
Speaker 2: the pro day circuit and talking to teams, he's often

967
00:43:38,786 --> 00:43:41,746
Speaker 2: said I'm Tally, so Tally seems to work as well.

968
00:43:41,986 --> 00:43:44,346
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess first mentioned. We'll try to

969
00:43:44,426 --> 00:43:46,786
Speaker 2: name the you know, Tally, yes, Paga. Try to hit

970
00:43:46,786 --> 00:43:49,306
Speaker 2: it correctly, and I apologize if I missed it there.

971
00:43:49,346 --> 00:43:51,826
Speaker 2: But apparently he goes by Tali, or has gone by

972
00:43:51,826 --> 00:43:54,826
Speaker 2: Tally during the pre draft process to some so hopefully

973
00:43:54,826 --> 00:43:57,026
Speaker 2: sooner enough we can all call him Tally if that's

974
00:43:57,026 --> 00:43:59,466
Speaker 2: what he prefers to be called. That leads us to

975
00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:04,106
Speaker 2: the fifteenth pick. So my final odds team pick Andlas

976
00:44:04,186 --> 00:44:06,386
Speaker 2: is here. All right, So Indy's been mocked so many

977
00:44:06,546 --> 00:44:09,146
Speaker 2: times with the corner that almost feels boring, Peter, and

978
00:44:09,226 --> 00:44:11,026
Speaker 2: yet I am going to do the boring thing and

979
00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:14,786
Speaker 2: give them Quinon Mitchell from Toledo, who has been borerlin

980
00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:16,906
Speaker 2: flallbless during the pre draft process. This is a big

981
00:44:16,906 --> 00:44:19,106
Speaker 2: time college player at Toledo, though, right, so how is

982
00:44:19,106 --> 00:44:22,266
Speaker 2: he going to handle better competition? Goes to the Senior Bowl.

983
00:44:22,586 --> 00:44:25,546
Speaker 2: Look like he more than belonged. He was the dominant player.

984
00:44:25,666 --> 00:44:28,386
Speaker 2: The guy was just absolutely aces there, ran four three

985
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:30,786
Speaker 2: three at the combine. It's got a good size, that's

986
00:44:30,826 --> 00:44:34,746
Speaker 2: excellent speed. Obviously great kid. I mean his football knowledge.

987
00:44:35,106 --> 00:44:37,026
Speaker 2: I talked to scouts that how like this guy is

988
00:44:37,186 --> 00:44:41,906
Speaker 2: like Einstein, Like he's really his recall is terrific. Some

989
00:44:41,946 --> 00:44:43,386
Speaker 2: of the stuff that he has shown during that pre

990
00:44:43,466 --> 00:44:47,586
Speaker 2: draft process has been really impressive there. So Quenyon Mitchell,

991
00:44:47,866 --> 00:44:51,746
Speaker 2: his intellect combined with his physical skill set makes me

992
00:44:51,786 --> 00:44:54,146
Speaker 2: feel like he is a good bet. In the first

993
00:44:54,146 --> 00:44:56,746
Speaker 2: half of the first round, Indianapolis at fifteen. They got

994
00:44:56,786 --> 00:45:00,226
Speaker 2: by last year with a very young and not heavily

995
00:45:00,266 --> 00:45:03,546
Speaker 2: invested corner room, especially at the perimeter spots. But it

996
00:45:03,546 --> 00:45:06,266
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me if they make a bigger investment this

997
00:45:06,426 --> 00:45:08,186
Speaker 2: off season with qu I.

998
00:45:08,186 --> 00:45:20,466
Speaker 1: Like it, Seahawks sitting there at sixteen. I am looking here,

999
00:45:20,786 --> 00:45:23,546
Speaker 1: and if I'm the Seahawks, I see a corner that

1000
00:45:23,626 --> 00:45:27,306
Speaker 1: I like. I also see the offensive tackle out of

1001
00:45:27,346 --> 00:45:30,546
Speaker 1: Penn State. Let's go there, let's go conservative here, help

1002
00:45:30,586 --> 00:45:32,626
Speaker 1: me with this one field sixteen out of Penn State.

1003
00:45:32,746 --> 00:45:38,746
Speaker 1: Oh fashion, new FASHIONU to the Seattle Seahawks at sixteen

1004
00:45:39,106 --> 00:45:42,466
Speaker 1: the OT. Now we've got a little run on our

1005
00:45:42,626 --> 00:45:45,386
Speaker 1: big offensive tackles here, which goes to seventeen, which is

1006
00:45:45,386 --> 00:45:47,666
Speaker 1: going to be my pick Jacksonville.

1007
00:45:47,746 --> 00:45:50,186
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that I flipped here because this one's

1008
00:45:50,186 --> 00:45:50,626
Speaker 2: a tricky one.

1009
00:45:50,666 --> 00:45:54,586
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm gonna go oh, because I know

1010
00:45:55,626 --> 00:45:59,746
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Terrian Arnold out of Alabama. I

1011
00:45:59,746 --> 00:46:04,626
Speaker 1: will say this red shirt sophomore, but yet was, from

1012
00:46:04,666 --> 00:46:08,426
Speaker 1: what I'm told, the leader of that Alabama defense. And

1013
00:46:08,506 --> 00:46:10,706
Speaker 1: like the face, even with Dallas Turner there, and it's

1014
00:46:10,746 --> 00:46:16,026
Speaker 1: like the voice, the face and like the most charismatic

1015
00:46:16,106 --> 00:46:18,946
Speaker 1: kid in this draft perhaps, and just a magnetism to

1016
00:46:19,066 --> 00:46:21,346
Speaker 1: him and how special a guy he was and his

1017
00:46:21,386 --> 00:46:23,866
Speaker 1: connection I was saving in those folks. I think he's

1018
00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:25,786
Speaker 1: going to be a top twenty pick. Obviously he might

1019
00:46:25,826 --> 00:46:29,266
Speaker 1: go before Mitchell in the draft. I'm gonna say, Terry

1020
00:46:29,266 --> 00:46:32,746
Speaker 1: and Arnold, here's seventeen to Jacksonville, Okay.

1021
00:46:32,786 --> 00:46:34,946
Speaker 2: I like it a number seventeen that the corner would

1022
00:46:34,986 --> 00:46:36,906
Speaker 2: certainly be one of the most primary needs for that

1023
00:46:36,986 --> 00:46:39,466
Speaker 2: team right now. Darius Williams release, he returns for the

1024
00:46:39,546 --> 00:46:43,146
Speaker 2: Rams this offseason, and you know they signed Ronald Darby

1025
00:46:43,146 --> 00:46:45,666
Speaker 2: do material two year deal. What they need to continue

1026
00:46:45,706 --> 00:46:47,746
Speaker 2: to kind of hammer away in that secondary. There, So

1027
00:46:47,866 --> 00:46:51,386
Speaker 2: a good pick there. I am going to go at

1028
00:46:51,426 --> 00:46:54,626
Speaker 2: number eighteen the Cincinnati Bengals, who you have to look

1029
00:46:54,666 --> 00:46:57,266
Speaker 2: both short and long term, right t Higgins recently said

1030
00:46:57,266 --> 00:47:00,426
Speaker 2: he expects to be back for twenty twenty four, but

1031
00:47:00,506 --> 00:47:02,466
Speaker 2: still he's in a FRA. He's a franchise tag player

1032
00:47:02,506 --> 00:47:04,986
Speaker 2: who previously requested a trade wide receiver in need there,

1033
00:47:05,146 --> 00:47:08,186
Speaker 2: But I'm going to Maus Mims. The team recently signed

1034
00:47:08,626 --> 00:47:10,786
Speaker 2: Trent Brown to a one year deal. Brown obviously a

1035
00:47:10,866 --> 00:47:13,186
Speaker 2: very talented player when he's on the field and engaged,

1036
00:47:13,506 --> 00:47:15,666
Speaker 2: but one year deal and a guy that you can't

1037
00:47:15,706 --> 00:47:19,106
Speaker 2: always expect to be, you know, wire to wire dominant player.

1038
00:47:19,506 --> 00:47:22,106
Speaker 2: Marius Mamms is a dice roll. This guy has eight

1039
00:47:22,346 --> 00:47:25,266
Speaker 2: hundred and three college snaps to his name. Peter eight

1040
00:47:25,306 --> 00:47:28,506
Speaker 2: starts eight and three college snaps. That is fewer snaps

1041
00:47:28,506 --> 00:47:31,386
Speaker 2: than Joe all played this season alone. So different level

1042
00:47:31,386 --> 00:47:33,626
Speaker 2: of experience, but all the talent. He's got a nearly

1043
00:47:33,666 --> 00:47:36,146
Speaker 2: eighty seven inch wingspan. If you're a nerd like you

1044
00:47:36,186 --> 00:47:38,706
Speaker 2: and I are, and you love wingspans and arm length

1045
00:47:38,746 --> 00:47:41,786
Speaker 2: and things like that, that a Marius Mams checks every box.

1046
00:47:41,946 --> 00:47:44,386
Speaker 2: It's going to take some time here, obviously to develop him,

1047
00:47:44,426 --> 00:47:46,906
Speaker 2: but I think highly of this prospect. If he can

1048
00:47:46,906 --> 00:47:48,906
Speaker 2: put it all together, eighteen will end up being a

1049
00:47:49,106 --> 00:47:51,386
Speaker 2: value and not a reach for Amarius Mams.

1050
00:47:51,546 --> 00:47:54,186
Speaker 1: I love that number. Nineteen is the Rams, as you

1051
00:47:54,226 --> 00:47:55,146
Speaker 1: know about baby.

1052
00:47:55,346 --> 00:47:57,506
Speaker 2: I know I'm listening closely here.

1053
00:47:57,506 --> 00:48:00,666
Speaker 1: First time that the Rams have had a first round

1054
00:48:00,666 --> 00:48:02,146
Speaker 1: pick with Sean McVay as their coach.

1055
00:48:02,186 --> 00:48:05,946
Speaker 2: How nothing is that insane? Like DeShawn even know the

1056
00:48:05,986 --> 00:48:08,106
Speaker 2: draft begins next Thursday.

1057
00:48:08,146 --> 00:48:11,466
Speaker 1: I think he's a picabo. I think he's chilling, yeah,

1058
00:48:11,546 --> 00:48:13,026
Speaker 1: I don't know who they're gonna take, I'll tell you that.

1059
00:48:13,066 --> 00:48:14,266
Speaker 1: And they don't know who they're gonna take. How the

1060
00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,186
Speaker 1: board falls, I will say this, I would be absolutely

1061
00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:18,506
Speaker 1: shocked if they don't take an offensive player. This is

1062
00:48:18,546 --> 00:48:19,826
Speaker 1: mcveigh's first draft.

1063
00:48:19,866 --> 00:48:21,746
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to take a great note.

1064
00:48:21,826 --> 00:48:23,346
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna take a middle line back.

1065
00:48:23,426 --> 00:48:24,666
Speaker 2: It's just me just knowing him.

1066
00:48:24,746 --> 00:48:26,866
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll taking a middle linebacker or a

1067
00:48:26,906 --> 00:48:29,786
Speaker 1: third corner. I think they're gonna go offense. The question

1068
00:48:29,826 --> 00:48:31,586
Speaker 1: is do they take a skill position player or do

1069
00:48:31,626 --> 00:48:34,546
Speaker 1: they take it for the sake of fun? Okay, just

1070
00:48:34,626 --> 00:48:38,066
Speaker 1: for fun? Yep, there are a million ways they can

1071
00:48:38,106 --> 00:48:40,946
Speaker 1: go here. I do not have this from them directly,

1072
00:48:41,106 --> 00:48:43,946
Speaker 1: but I look at the way that this guy plays,

1073
00:48:43,986 --> 00:48:45,946
Speaker 1: and I know the way that not only Sean, but

1074
00:48:46,026 --> 00:48:49,906
Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan wants a player. How about this shocker

1075
00:48:50,146 --> 00:48:52,866
Speaker 1: nineteen rams take Lad McConkie out of Georgia.

1076
00:48:53,706 --> 00:48:55,986
Speaker 2: It's a fun one. No, it's so it's interesting. I

1077
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:58,986
Speaker 2: mean during the process, I have, like from the very

1078
00:48:58,986 --> 00:49:02,466
Speaker 2: first time that you watch Lad screen the tape, there's

1079
00:49:02,586 --> 00:49:04,826
Speaker 2: elements of the tape that screen first round pick right,

1080
00:49:04,866 --> 00:49:07,826
Speaker 2: But yes, Georgia offense, which had two players last year,

1081
00:49:07,866 --> 00:49:10,226
Speaker 2: they had two separate running backs with Kendall Milton de

1082
00:49:10,266 --> 00:49:12,746
Speaker 2: Jon Edwards, who had thirteen bust rutching touchdowns. They had

1083
00:49:12,786 --> 00:49:15,786
Speaker 2: Rock Bauers right and Marcus Roseby jacksont a Senior Bowl

1084
00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:18,146
Speaker 2: attendee who could get drafted as well. Like a lot

1085
00:49:18,146 --> 00:49:20,906
Speaker 2: of mouths defeats so Ladd's overall production, especially when you

1086
00:49:20,986 --> 00:49:24,466
Speaker 2: factor in the time miss due to the injury. You know, like,

1087
00:49:24,626 --> 00:49:26,506
Speaker 2: is it going to blow you away? No, it is not.

1088
00:49:26,786 --> 00:49:28,786
Speaker 2: But it's a hell of a player and he is.

1089
00:49:29,426 --> 00:49:32,386
Speaker 2: He's an outstanding right runner, which everybody knows.

1090
00:49:32,266 --> 00:49:35,026
Speaker 1: It's smart, smart smart. I think of it, and I

1091
00:49:35,026 --> 00:49:37,106
Speaker 1: know they're both white receivers, but like he looks like

1092
00:49:37,146 --> 00:49:39,026
Speaker 1: a skinnier Cooper Cup when I watch him, and.

1093
00:49:38,986 --> 00:49:41,306
Speaker 2: I'm like, people get mad when you make that compy.

1094
00:49:41,506 --> 00:49:44,306
Speaker 2: Elements of it that come that are I think are

1095
00:49:44,306 --> 00:49:44,786
Speaker 2: our pertinent.

1096
00:49:44,906 --> 00:49:46,626
Speaker 1: I asked, I asked for a player come to a

1097
00:49:46,666 --> 00:49:48,306
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach that I trust in the league. And

1098
00:49:48,346 --> 00:49:50,546
Speaker 1: he didn't go Cooper Cup. He said Terry McLaurin. Just

1099
00:49:50,586 --> 00:49:53,346
Speaker 1: the intelligence and the route running and the ability and

1100
00:49:53,386 --> 00:49:55,426
Speaker 1: you know what. I know, Brian Thomas is on the board.

1101
00:49:55,426 --> 00:49:57,586
Speaker 1: I know ad Mitchell's on the board. It's my mock draft.

1102
00:49:57,626 --> 00:49:59,666
Speaker 1: I have the Rams taking Lad McConkie, Peter.

1103
00:49:59,786 --> 00:50:02,786
Speaker 2: There are shocks every year, and I love Ladam. He's

1104
00:50:02,786 --> 00:50:04,346
Speaker 2: been a, you know, a fixture in the top forty

1105
00:50:04,426 --> 00:50:06,986
Speaker 2: or so players from my board for throughout this so

1106
00:50:07,546 --> 00:50:09,546
Speaker 2: as nineteen a rege relative to my board sort of.

1107
00:50:09,546 --> 00:50:11,186
Speaker 2: But I tell you this all the time. The further

1108
00:50:11,266 --> 00:50:15,546
Speaker 2: you get away from the beginning of the draft, like

1109
00:50:15,666 --> 00:50:18,546
Speaker 2: the lesson really matters, Peter. I'm just telling everybody. Everybody

1110
00:50:18,546 --> 00:50:20,786
Speaker 2: has a different board, everybody has different things they value.

1111
00:50:20,826 --> 00:50:22,346
Speaker 2: There are a couple of wide receivers that I thought

1112
00:50:22,386 --> 00:50:24,346
Speaker 2: to myself that they go to the Rams specifically, I

1113
00:50:24,346 --> 00:50:26,586
Speaker 2: would love them. If they go elsewhere, I wouldn't be

1114
00:50:26,706 --> 00:50:29,346
Speaker 2: quite as optimistic. So I totally get that pick that

1115
00:50:29,346 --> 00:50:31,466
Speaker 2: gets me the Steelers at number twenty. I'm good to

1116
00:50:31,546 --> 00:50:33,866
Speaker 2: keep up with my boring theme here, but sometimes boring

1117
00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:36,266
Speaker 2: means it feels strongly about it. And I'm going Graham

1118
00:50:36,306 --> 00:50:39,986
Speaker 2: Barton center from Duke guy who played left tackle the

1119
00:50:40,026 --> 00:50:44,666
Speaker 2: past three years. Peter's this true freshman center for Duke.

1120
00:50:44,746 --> 00:50:47,986
Speaker 2: So he's played the interior before. You know, again back

1121
00:50:48,026 --> 00:50:50,106
Speaker 2: to like arm length and wingspan. Those are the kind

1122
00:50:50,106 --> 00:50:52,226
Speaker 2: of things that suggests he's more of an interior player.

1123
00:50:52,306 --> 00:50:54,866
Speaker 2: The Steelers have really worked hard to reshape that offensive

1124
00:50:54,906 --> 00:50:58,026
Speaker 2: line over the past fourteen twelve fourteen months, both free

1125
00:50:58,026 --> 00:51:00,146
Speaker 2: agency last year and the draft last year. So give

1126
00:51:00,186 --> 00:51:03,586
Speaker 2: me Graham Barton, who at worst gives you two position

1127
00:51:03,626 --> 00:51:06,586
Speaker 2: of flexibility. I think he's probably your day one starter.

1128
00:51:06,746 --> 00:51:09,986
Speaker 2: They've released Mason Cole actually, like at the beginning of

1129
00:51:09,986 --> 00:51:12,746
Speaker 2: the waiver period, they have not yet replaced him, at

1130
00:51:12,826 --> 00:51:16,306
Speaker 2: least notably to this point. So the Steelers get Graham Barton. Okay,

1131
00:51:16,506 --> 00:51:16,826
Speaker 2: love it.

1132
00:51:17,586 --> 00:51:20,026
Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do for twenty one to thirty two. Okay,

1133
00:51:20,106 --> 00:51:23,146
Speaker 1: we're just gonna go your ten seconds on the clock

1134
00:51:23,266 --> 00:51:25,266
Speaker 1: in rapid fire. I think that's a fair way to

1135
00:51:25,306 --> 00:51:28,506
Speaker 1: do it, all right. Twenty one is the Dolphins. I

1136
00:51:28,546 --> 00:51:33,986
Speaker 1: am going to go with Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle

1137
00:51:34,226 --> 00:51:35,506
Speaker 1: out of Texas.

1138
00:51:35,706 --> 00:51:38,546
Speaker 2: Yep, okay, love it. He's I mean, the guy had

1139
00:51:38,746 --> 00:51:40,866
Speaker 2: just an awesome, awesome final season right.

1140
00:51:40,826 --> 00:51:43,386
Speaker 1: There, and so good at the combine and so good

1141
00:51:43,386 --> 00:51:45,066
Speaker 1: at the work. Oh yeah, I think that's a great

1142
00:51:45,106 --> 00:51:46,586
Speaker 1: spot for him at twenty one.

1143
00:51:46,506 --> 00:51:49,426
Speaker 2: Yep, twenty two Philadelphia Eagles. This is me. I'll go

1144
00:51:49,546 --> 00:51:52,226
Speaker 2: Tyler Geiton, offensive tackle from Oklahoma. They have a long

1145
00:51:52,346 --> 00:51:56,146
Speaker 2: history of taking players early, as in like addressing positions

1146
00:51:56,186 --> 00:51:58,466
Speaker 2: earlier than they need them. They do not necessarily need

1147
00:51:58,506 --> 00:52:01,786
Speaker 2: an offensive tackle, but this would be Jeff Stoutland's newest project.

1148
00:52:01,866 --> 00:52:06,266
Speaker 2: They're terrific offensive line coach. This kid has so much talent,

1149
00:52:06,466 --> 00:52:08,586
Speaker 2: great feet, left tackle or right tackle.

1150
00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:13,426
Speaker 1: Potential vikings on the board. I am attempted to do

1151
00:52:13,506 --> 00:52:18,386
Speaker 1: it because he Bo Nicks quarterback. Oregon have him to

1152
00:52:18,386 --> 00:52:20,346
Speaker 1: do it, right, do Yeah? I don't know, Like they

1153
00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,266
Speaker 1: sit up twenty three and our Vikings fans like, okay,

1154
00:52:23,506 --> 00:52:25,906
Speaker 1: in this scenario, we got lot too in bow Nicks.

1155
00:52:25,946 --> 00:52:28,106
Speaker 1: What the hell we thought we were getting Drake? May

1156
00:52:28,226 --> 00:52:30,586
Speaker 1: you know, like, are they just like blah or do

1157
00:52:30,666 --> 00:52:32,866
Speaker 1: you look at that and say, all right, bow Nicks

1158
00:52:32,906 --> 00:52:34,426
Speaker 1: is definitely better than Sam Darnold.

1159
00:52:34,466 --> 00:52:36,786
Speaker 2: I don't know that, I know, I know it's well.

1160
00:52:36,826 --> 00:52:38,706
Speaker 2: The only thing I will say though, is just you know,

1161
00:52:38,746 --> 00:52:40,826
Speaker 2: with the one year deal for Sam, you have to

1162
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:43,386
Speaker 2: already be mindful of twenty twenty five, right. Other things

1163
00:52:43,426 --> 00:52:46,226
Speaker 2: don't go well, then you're obviously looking for a quarterback.

1164
00:52:46,266 --> 00:52:49,346
Speaker 2: If things do go well, then you're gonna have to

1165
00:52:49,386 --> 00:52:52,266
Speaker 2: reinvest in Sam. And you know, negotiating quarterback contracts is

1166
00:52:52,306 --> 00:52:55,466
Speaker 2: not always easy. So all right, so this is where

1167
00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:56,146
Speaker 2: things get fun.

1168
00:52:56,226 --> 00:52:56,386
Speaker 1: Right.

1169
00:52:56,746 --> 00:52:58,746
Speaker 2: So we are up to pick number twenty four, the

1170
00:52:58,786 --> 00:53:00,906
Speaker 2: Cowboys on the clock. I think this is a team

1171
00:53:00,946 --> 00:53:03,666
Speaker 2: that obviously needs an offensive tackle. I certainly would be

1172
00:53:03,746 --> 00:53:06,986
Speaker 2: looking at the various options here. I would consider a

1173
00:53:07,066 --> 00:53:09,306
Speaker 2: trained down because I think that right now, Peter, like

1174
00:53:09,306 --> 00:53:11,546
Speaker 2: I may have reached the threshold of my offensive tackle

1175
00:53:11,586 --> 00:53:15,506
Speaker 2: that I think that like unimpeachable first round picks. So

1176
00:53:15,866 --> 00:53:18,066
Speaker 2: what I am going to do is do a little

1177
00:53:18,106 --> 00:53:20,546
Speaker 2: bit of a reach here, Peter, and go with Jordan Morgan,

1178
00:53:20,666 --> 00:53:22,786
Speaker 2: left tackle from Arizona. Not a huge reach, but a

1179
00:53:22,826 --> 00:53:25,426
Speaker 2: tiny bit of a reach here. Uh something. He could

1180
00:53:25,466 --> 00:53:26,986
Speaker 2: be a guard at the next level. Here's the good

1181
00:53:26,986 --> 00:53:28,826
Speaker 2: news for Dallas. If he ends up being a guard,

1182
00:53:28,906 --> 00:53:31,466
Speaker 2: they already have a potential left tackle in Tyler Smith.

1183
00:53:31,546 --> 00:53:33,986
Speaker 2: The preference, though, would be to leave Tyler Smith at

1184
00:53:34,066 --> 00:53:36,826
Speaker 2: left guard, so you have Jordan Morgan. If he works

1185
00:53:36,866 --> 00:53:39,466
Speaker 2: out at left tackle, you keep things status quote. Otherwise,

1186
00:53:39,826 --> 00:53:41,626
Speaker 2: if he doesn't work out at left tackle. You put

1187
00:53:41,706 --> 00:53:44,026
Speaker 2: him to that left guard, Tyler Smith left tackle.

1188
00:53:44,306 --> 00:53:46,706
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a bailout here if you want,

1189
00:53:46,786 --> 00:53:48,506
Speaker 1: because I know how this goes. You've got a board,

1190
00:53:48,546 --> 00:53:50,946
Speaker 1: You've got all this fictional stuff. Would you rather have

1191
00:53:51,066 --> 00:53:53,266
Speaker 1: JC Latham? Or is that? Is that a no mission

1192
00:53:54,306 --> 00:53:56,106
Speaker 1: of still on the board?

1193
00:53:56,386 --> 00:53:58,866
Speaker 2: Fully crap, Peter, I don't, okay. So this feels like

1194
00:53:58,946 --> 00:54:02,786
Speaker 2: a massive, massive ror in our ways people. All right,

1195
00:54:02,826 --> 00:54:05,146
Speaker 2: so we needed to just acknowledge its like I put it.

1196
00:54:05,186 --> 00:54:07,506
Speaker 2: I think I would have taken I'm like fourteen all right.

1197
00:54:07,426 --> 00:54:09,306
Speaker 1: So let's go back. Let's go back, let's go back.

1198
00:54:09,306 --> 00:54:10,706
Speaker 1: So let's go tackles here.

1199
00:54:10,746 --> 00:54:12,106
Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah, I.

1200
00:54:11,986 --> 00:54:16,546
Speaker 1: Had we had all. No, you took Chicago, went out

1201
00:54:16,546 --> 00:54:17,746
Speaker 1: of Washington. Do you want to keep that?

1202
00:54:18,586 --> 00:54:19,746
Speaker 2: I will keep that one right there?

1203
00:54:19,826 --> 00:54:22,746
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well yeah I took Joe all I

1204
00:54:22,786 --> 00:54:25,026
Speaker 1: still want to keep that. This is where we go, Titans.

1205
00:54:25,106 --> 00:54:26,866
Speaker 1: I still want Fuaga over him?

1206
00:54:26,986 --> 00:54:28,546
Speaker 2: Okay, all good, No problem there.

1207
00:54:28,706 --> 00:54:30,866
Speaker 1: The Hawks. I still want Shanu over him.

1208
00:54:31,426 --> 00:54:33,706
Speaker 2: So I guess I didn't really take too many of attacks.

1209
00:54:33,266 --> 00:54:35,586
Speaker 1: Angles he took it, took Mims over him. Do you want.

1210
00:54:37,346 --> 00:54:39,906
Speaker 2: I do. I do, and I apologize to j C. Latham,

1211
00:54:39,986 --> 00:54:42,826
Speaker 2: so to both Jason Latham and A Marius Mam. So

1212
00:54:42,866 --> 00:54:45,626
Speaker 2: we'll just keep sliding the guys down the border here here,

1213
00:54:46,826 --> 00:54:47,186
Speaker 2: I like this.

1214
00:54:47,306 --> 00:54:51,386
Speaker 1: Latham goes eighteen, and then do you want Graham Barton

1215
00:54:51,466 --> 00:54:53,986
Speaker 1: still Steelers there, okay.

1216
00:54:53,786 --> 00:54:56,066
Speaker 2: And then Mims can go and slide down. So we'll

1217
00:54:56,066 --> 00:54:59,426
Speaker 2: go to the Eagles. Yeah, there we go, okay, and

1218
00:54:59,466 --> 00:55:02,906
Speaker 2: then they always get guit So I apologize. This is

1219
00:55:02,946 --> 00:55:04,906
Speaker 2: the reality of doing a off draft on the fly

1220
00:55:05,146 --> 00:55:08,546
Speaker 2: right eater screen and going to old school writing things down.

1221
00:55:08,626 --> 00:55:11,706
Speaker 2: So I love that, all right. So those three impacted

1222
00:55:11,706 --> 00:55:12,506
Speaker 2: parties there.

1223
00:55:12,586 --> 00:55:14,626
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to write a long letter to Jordan Morgan.

1224
00:55:14,666 --> 00:55:15,946
Speaker 1: He thought it was the first round pick. I don't

1225
00:55:15,946 --> 00:55:19,346
Speaker 1: know about it, all right, So let's just to recap here.

1226
00:55:20,346 --> 00:55:24,746
Speaker 1: Instead of Mims at eighteen, the Bengals take JC Latham,

1227
00:55:25,266 --> 00:55:29,506
Speaker 1: and then the Eagles take Mimes from Georgia, and then

1228
00:55:29,546 --> 00:55:31,706
Speaker 1: the Cowboys they.

1229
00:55:31,666 --> 00:55:38,266
Speaker 2: Take Tyler Gaydon, Tyler Guyton Oklahoma, yep, so take it.

1230
00:55:38,266 --> 00:55:41,226
Speaker 1: We're good, moving back all down the field here, sorry, yes,

1231
00:55:41,466 --> 00:55:42,426
Speaker 1: we're back on course.

1232
00:55:42,426 --> 00:55:42,866
Speaker 2: We're good.

1233
00:55:43,426 --> 00:55:47,946
Speaker 1: Uh, Packers, I'll go with there are a bunch of

1234
00:55:47,946 --> 00:55:49,986
Speaker 1: wide receivers sitting there, dude, But I don't know.

1235
00:55:49,986 --> 00:55:51,626
Speaker 2: They've made so many investments there, right.

1236
00:55:51,626 --> 00:55:53,546
Speaker 1: They have all those late round guys that all were

1237
00:55:53,546 --> 00:56:03,066
Speaker 1: awesome last year. Uh, Packers, I will go west, Uh

1238
00:56:02,666 --> 00:56:06,066
Speaker 1: the Packers. I will go with Jared Verse out.

1239
00:56:05,906 --> 00:56:08,706
Speaker 2: Of Florida like a state, yep, and keep beefing up

1240
00:56:08,706 --> 00:56:11,666
Speaker 2: that edge rush. You know, Preston Smith restructured his contract

1241
00:56:11,746 --> 00:56:14,346
Speaker 2: this offseason. Keeps him around, but at some point, you know,

1242
00:56:14,426 --> 00:56:16,826
Speaker 2: he's he's the oldest player on the team's president. I

1243
00:56:16,866 --> 00:56:18,386
Speaker 2: think he's the only guy in the thirties by the way,

1244
00:56:18,546 --> 00:56:21,346
Speaker 2: the entire Yeah, so a very very young roster.

1245
00:56:21,146 --> 00:56:23,266
Speaker 1: Obviously still kicking there.

1246
00:56:23,946 --> 00:56:26,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mays ended up with the Rams last season.

1247
00:56:26,466 --> 00:56:28,506
Speaker 1: Yeah, they took one of the other Carlson guys. They

1248
00:56:28,506 --> 00:56:29,386
Speaker 1: took one of those two.

1249
00:56:29,466 --> 00:56:31,746
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Yep. All right, so we are

1250
00:56:31,866 --> 00:56:34,786
Speaker 2: back to pick number twenty six years we are rolling

1251
00:56:34,786 --> 00:56:36,866
Speaker 2: along him on the evens again. This is my way

1252
00:56:36,866 --> 00:56:39,906
Speaker 2: of filibustering for the for the Bucks, I'll take Chop Robinson,

1253
00:56:40,066 --> 00:56:42,706
Speaker 2: who if you look at the profile of players they

1254
00:56:42,706 --> 00:56:45,266
Speaker 2: have drafted early in Tampa, they have definitely skewed towards

1255
00:56:45,306 --> 00:56:48,746
Speaker 2: athletic guys. Chop Robinson is an elite athlete, somewhat of

1256
00:56:48,786 --> 00:56:51,786
Speaker 2: a divisive prospect because he had modest college production. Peter

1257
00:56:51,986 --> 00:56:55,746
Speaker 2: just four sacks last year to ast Yeah, and two

1258
00:56:55,786 --> 00:56:58,466
Speaker 2: of which game against UMass uh. So you know, to

1259
00:56:58,466 --> 00:57:01,426
Speaker 2: two sacks in the and the games against the tiffer competition.

1260
00:57:01,546 --> 00:57:04,106
Speaker 2: But that first step quickness is just so good, Peter,

1261
00:57:04,186 --> 00:57:06,506
Speaker 2: he is. I think this is the definition of a

1262
00:57:06,546 --> 00:57:09,066
Speaker 2: better pro than college player. So I'll go Chop Robinson.

1263
00:57:09,066 --> 00:57:10,026
Speaker 1: There, Chop Robinson.

1264
00:57:10,066 --> 00:57:10,906
Speaker 2: It is okay.

1265
00:57:11,026 --> 00:57:14,346
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with another Robinson on the defensive line

1266
00:57:14,346 --> 00:57:17,626
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals twenty seven. I'm gonna go Darius Robinson,

1267
00:57:18,226 --> 00:57:19,706
Speaker 1: who is a I don't would you call him a

1268
00:57:19,786 --> 00:57:21,706
Speaker 1: rising prospect. I guess like he's been there for a

1269
00:57:21,706 --> 00:57:24,346
Speaker 1: long time. He's not at all. But like in our world,

1270
00:57:24,466 --> 00:57:26,266
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm being told he's a surefire

1271
00:57:26,306 --> 00:57:26,906
Speaker 1: first round pick.

1272
00:57:26,986 --> 00:57:28,946
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the sky screens first round picked Peter.

1273
00:57:29,266 --> 00:57:31,586
Speaker 2: He's just the total package. Is the defensive lineman, right,

1274
00:57:31,626 --> 00:57:33,986
Speaker 2: He's not just an edge rusher, not just a defensive tackle.

1275
00:57:34,066 --> 00:57:36,626
Speaker 2: He spends much of his early portions of his time

1276
00:57:36,906 --> 00:57:40,146
Speaker 2: at Missouri, his defensive tackle transformed, his body dropped some weight,

1277
00:57:40,826 --> 00:57:42,706
Speaker 2: and he became an edge player. He did not dominate

1278
00:57:42,746 --> 00:57:45,226
Speaker 2: the combine in part because he's still got some defensive

1279
00:57:45,266 --> 00:57:48,346
Speaker 2: tackle body on him, but had a great season this

1280
00:57:48,346 --> 00:57:50,306
Speaker 2: past year for the Tigers. Part of that really really

1281
00:57:50,346 --> 00:57:54,346
Speaker 2: good defense obviously had a total, dominant, totally dominant Pro

1282
00:57:54,426 --> 00:57:56,946
Speaker 2: Day as well, which again people will say, what the

1283
00:57:56,946 --> 00:57:59,266
Speaker 2: heck is a pro day worth? Well, every team is

1284
00:57:59,306 --> 00:58:01,786
Speaker 2: either there or watching it on total and I'm just

1285
00:58:01,786 --> 00:58:03,666
Speaker 2: telling you I've gotten feedback on that prote that it

1286
00:58:03,746 --> 00:58:07,106
Speaker 2: was awesome. So Darius Robinson's tapes has first round pick,

1287
00:58:07,146 --> 00:58:09,186
Speaker 2: and I think that other parts of the process have

1288
00:58:09,266 --> 00:58:12,226
Speaker 2: also said first round pick. Love it for Arizona at

1289
00:58:12,386 --> 00:58:15,426
Speaker 2: number twenty seven, and the Bills I think just maybe

1290
00:58:15,546 --> 00:58:17,706
Speaker 2: want a lottery here, Peter right, I mean to get

1291
00:58:18,266 --> 00:58:21,586
Speaker 2: either Brian Thomas or Mitchell make twenty eight. I don't

1292
00:58:21,586 --> 00:58:23,746
Speaker 2: know though. Brian Thomas Jr. I have one spot. I

1293
00:58:23,786 --> 00:58:25,866
Speaker 2: had one whole spot. I had him on the big board.

1294
00:58:26,186 --> 00:58:28,506
Speaker 2: An Ady Mitchell with Brian Thomas Jr. Such a great

1295
00:58:28,506 --> 00:58:31,466
Speaker 2: accelerator at the second level, had over seventeen yards to

1296
00:58:31,506 --> 00:58:35,186
Speaker 2: catch last year, had seventeen receiving touchdowns that led FBS.

1297
00:58:35,506 --> 00:58:37,546
Speaker 2: The guy's second gear is just so special. And of

1298
00:58:37,586 --> 00:58:40,066
Speaker 2: course when you have I don't know about the strongest arm,

1299
00:58:40,146 --> 00:58:42,306
Speaker 2: but certainly on the short list for strongest arms. Now

1300
00:58:42,306 --> 00:58:44,346
Speaker 2: that Anthony Richardson is in the league and a couple

1301
00:58:44,346 --> 00:58:47,586
Speaker 2: of other guys, that strong arm competition would be fascinating.

1302
00:58:47,586 --> 00:58:50,546
Speaker 2: But with Josh Allen's arm strength, eighty Mitchell or Brian

1303
00:58:50,586 --> 00:58:52,826
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior would work. Give me Brian Thomas Jr.

1304
00:58:53,186 --> 00:58:56,306
Speaker 1: It would everyone be just gobsmacked if lat buck Conki

1305
00:58:56,386 --> 00:58:59,106
Speaker 1: went before Brian Thomas. This is what I'm saying. Sometimes

1306
00:58:58,946 --> 00:59:00,346
Speaker 1: it's just fit like.

1307
00:59:00,346 --> 00:59:02,506
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for the Rams, I wouldn't be at all right.

1308
00:59:02,746 --> 00:59:03,106
Speaker 1: Rams.

1309
00:59:03,346 --> 00:59:05,106
Speaker 2: I mean just in the same way that Pooka if

1310
00:59:05,466 --> 00:59:07,346
Speaker 2: you placed him in Buffalo. And I'm not trying to

1311
00:59:07,346 --> 00:59:09,346
Speaker 2: be disrespectful to a guy who had maybe the greatest

1312
00:59:09,426 --> 00:59:12,626
Speaker 2: rookie receivers season ever, but the outcome is different than

1313
00:59:12,706 --> 00:59:15,186
Speaker 2: the system he played in Los Angeles. It was just

1314
00:59:15,666 --> 00:59:17,346
Speaker 2: That's what I love about what they do in LA

1315
00:59:17,546 --> 00:59:20,066
Speaker 2: is that they're less worried about how the league views

1316
00:59:20,066 --> 00:59:22,186
Speaker 2: a player and more worried about how they feel a.

1317
00:59:22,106 --> 00:59:25,466
Speaker 1: Player and that is exactly the perfect transition to a

1318
00:59:25,506 --> 00:59:28,586
Speaker 1: team that has a general manager from the Los Angeles

1319
00:59:28,706 --> 00:59:32,026
Speaker 1: Rams organization who also took a running back and an

1320
00:59:32,106 --> 00:59:34,906
Speaker 1: inside linebacker with two first round picks last year, the

1321
00:59:34,986 --> 00:59:39,146
Speaker 1: Lions at twenty nine. I can go a million ways here.

1322
00:59:40,866 --> 00:59:44,106
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the Lions take kool Aid McKinstry

1323
00:59:44,666 --> 00:59:45,266
Speaker 1: twenty nine.

1324
00:59:45,506 --> 00:59:48,306
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Alabama corner has had a good free draft

1325
00:59:48,306 --> 00:59:50,906
Speaker 2: process recently because he came back from that foot injury,

1326
00:59:51,066 --> 00:59:53,306
Speaker 2: ran somewhere in the high four forest and everybody's got

1327
00:59:53,306 --> 00:59:55,986
Speaker 2: a different stop watch a pro days Buttery Smooth though

1328
00:59:56,026 --> 00:59:58,866
Speaker 2: Peter are really really good, like natural man coverage player

1329
00:59:58,906 --> 01:00:01,266
Speaker 2: and twenty pass breakups over the past couple of years.

1330
01:00:01,306 --> 01:00:03,946
Speaker 2: So when the football is in his vicinity, it ain't

1331
01:00:03,986 --> 01:00:06,986
Speaker 2: often caught, which is a good sign there. I mckinshew.

1332
01:00:06,986 --> 01:00:09,146
Speaker 1: I think kool Aid might actually have a better rookie

1333
01:00:09,426 --> 01:00:11,746
Speaker 1: year than Terry and Arnold, like just because of the

1334
01:00:11,866 --> 01:00:13,946
Speaker 1: experience and just getting him out there, and it feels

1335
01:00:13,986 --> 01:00:15,826
Speaker 1: like he might even be more pro ready to take

1336
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:17,706
Speaker 1: on number one wide receivers. And I feel like the

1337
01:00:17,746 --> 01:00:19,226
Speaker 1: Lions like that defensive backfield.

1338
01:00:19,226 --> 01:00:21,226
Speaker 2: They could use another guy, Yeah, they could use one

1339
01:00:21,266 --> 01:00:24,386
Speaker 2: more guy and the Ravens in that defensive backfield. Still,

1340
01:00:24,426 --> 01:00:26,626
Speaker 2: I think you know a body short there, so I

1341
01:00:26,706 --> 01:00:28,866
Speaker 2: will go with So I look at the big board.

1342
01:00:28,906 --> 01:00:30,186
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that I'm not like

1343
01:00:30,306 --> 01:00:32,426
Speaker 2: totally overlooking the players that I have ranked high on

1344
01:00:32,466 --> 01:00:34,146
Speaker 2: my big board, and there are a couple of names

1345
01:00:34,146 --> 01:00:36,666
Speaker 2: that are still pretty intriguing there. I can make a

1346
01:00:36,666 --> 01:00:39,346
Speaker 2: pretty good case between Cooper Degene and Nate Wigans and

1347
01:00:39,386 --> 01:00:42,586
Speaker 2: uncle Nate Wiggins from Clemson speedy cornerman ran a fourto

1348
01:00:42,626 --> 01:00:46,986
Speaker 2: eight at the Combine, and you know, I just I

1349
01:00:47,026 --> 01:00:48,906
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of a fool's errand and

1350
01:00:48,986 --> 01:00:51,706
Speaker 2: focusing too much on one play, one series for one game.

1351
01:00:52,026 --> 01:00:54,586
Speaker 2: But I've talked about this a bit with kuyper Is.

1352
01:00:54,626 --> 01:00:58,026
Speaker 2: There are two separate occasions this past year where Nate

1353
01:00:58,066 --> 01:01:00,386
Speaker 2: Wiggins was like out of the frame of the TV

1354
01:01:00,906 --> 01:01:03,066
Speaker 2: and a running back was off to the races for

1355
01:01:03,226 --> 01:01:05,506
Speaker 2: what would be an easy touchdown and Wiggins, with that

1356
01:01:05,506 --> 01:01:07,786
Speaker 2: four too eight speed caught them on both occasions. One

1357
01:01:07,826 --> 01:01:10,626
Speaker 2: time he forced to fumble against North Carolina that resulted

1358
01:01:10,626 --> 01:01:12,946
Speaker 2: in the touchback. Another time he forced to fumble the

1359
01:01:12,946 --> 01:01:15,586
Speaker 2: one yard line by Miami running back that was recovered

1360
01:01:15,586 --> 01:01:17,826
Speaker 2: by Miami. But you know it became a jump ball

1361
01:01:17,906 --> 01:01:21,226
Speaker 2: for being a touchdown or a touchback. So Nate Wiggins,

1362
01:01:21,306 --> 01:01:23,426
Speaker 2: I thought championship efforts showed up on a couple of

1363
01:01:23,426 --> 01:01:25,746
Speaker 2: different occasions that speed really applied. So he goes to

1364
01:01:25,786 --> 01:01:26,826
Speaker 2: the Ravens to pick thirty.

1365
01:01:27,586 --> 01:01:30,066
Speaker 1: Okay, I dig that pick right now. There's a bunch

1366
01:01:30,106 --> 01:01:31,866
Speaker 1: of names that are on the board. We got two

1367
01:01:31,946 --> 01:01:33,226
Speaker 1: teams left all the.

1368
01:01:35,266 --> 01:01:37,226
Speaker 2: Sorry they really get.

1369
01:01:37,066 --> 01:01:38,106
Speaker 1: Oh and you're still talking.

1370
01:01:38,266 --> 01:01:40,946
Speaker 2: Ad Mitchell still out baby worthy, Ady Mitchell. Those are

1371
01:01:40,986 --> 01:01:41,706
Speaker 2: the names, yep.

1372
01:01:42,026 --> 01:01:44,826
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know you could always just say, hey,

1373
01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:47,146
Speaker 1: give me the next offensive lineman Jordan Morgan. Of course

1374
01:01:47,186 --> 01:01:49,546
Speaker 1: we said, we said. Zach Fraser still on the board

1375
01:01:49,546 --> 01:01:52,426
Speaker 1: out of West Virginia. He's tough. You know what, I'm

1376
01:01:52,426 --> 01:01:56,906
Speaker 1: gonna go, Zach Fraser, four time All State wrestling champion,

1377
01:01:57,066 --> 01:02:00,626
Speaker 1: inside offensive lineman, nothing flashy. Forty nine ers take Zach

1378
01:02:00,666 --> 01:02:04,826
Speaker 1: Fraser over all those wide receiver prospects, just to cause

1379
01:02:04,946 --> 01:02:07,466
Speaker 1: great madness amongst the forty nine faith. Well, that's just

1380
01:02:07,466 --> 01:02:09,946
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm going offensive line and tough, gritty

1381
01:02:09,986 --> 01:02:12,986
Speaker 1: guy who they're going to just continue to protect Rock

1382
01:02:13,026 --> 01:02:13,546
Speaker 1: Berdy with.

1383
01:02:13,826 --> 01:02:16,106
Speaker 2: By the way, this team does what it wants in

1384
01:02:16,146 --> 01:02:17,986
Speaker 2: the draft, right, Yeah, the four nine ers are not

1385
01:02:18,306 --> 01:02:21,266
Speaker 2: Beholden's to you know, mind mock drafts, your mock draft, right,

1386
01:02:21,266 --> 01:02:22,786
Speaker 2: They're going to do what they want to do. And

1387
01:02:22,826 --> 01:02:25,546
Speaker 2: if that means taking a you know, a center at

1388
01:02:25,586 --> 01:02:28,026
Speaker 2: thirty one, that somethink might be available at forty one,

1389
01:02:28,186 --> 01:02:28,986
Speaker 2: so be it. They don't care.

1390
01:02:28,986 --> 01:02:30,986
Speaker 1: What do you make as Zach Frasier because everyone loves

1391
01:02:30,986 --> 01:02:32,706
Speaker 1: the kid, but no one has them in the first round.

1392
01:02:32,706 --> 01:02:33,466
Speaker 1: I just said, screw it.

1393
01:02:33,506 --> 01:02:35,546
Speaker 2: I like him. Yeah, so he went is at the

1394
01:02:35,546 --> 01:02:38,306
Speaker 2: Big twelve pro Da. I mean he's the toughest player

1395
01:02:38,306 --> 01:02:39,826
Speaker 2: in the draft. There's no two ways about that, right.

1396
01:02:39,866 --> 01:02:42,946
Speaker 2: Wrestling background, everybody knows the story by now. Final play

1397
01:02:42,986 --> 01:02:45,306
Speaker 2: for him at West Virginia this past year breaks his leg,

1398
01:02:45,826 --> 01:02:48,226
Speaker 2: game winning drive is going on. But of course in college,

1399
01:02:48,266 --> 01:02:51,346
Speaker 2: if you require medical assistance, you don't have a timeout.

1400
01:02:51,346 --> 01:02:54,626
Speaker 2: It's ten second runoff. So the guy hobbles to the

1401
01:02:54,706 --> 01:02:57,666
Speaker 2: sideline to ensure that his team preserves ten seconds, which

1402
01:02:57,706 --> 01:03:01,026
Speaker 2: is so tough and so impressive, but that injury obviously

1403
01:03:01,066 --> 01:03:03,346
Speaker 2: impacted it. So he was at the combine, took part

1404
01:03:03,386 --> 01:03:06,666
Speaker 2: in some portion of trideline. He tried it, and that

1405
01:03:06,786 --> 01:03:09,106
Speaker 2: big twelve Pro day didn't have overwhelming numbers. So I

1406
01:03:09,106 --> 01:03:12,146
Speaker 2: think that's the question is for a center only, probably

1407
01:03:12,186 --> 01:03:15,906
Speaker 2: a center only. Is the athletic profile good enough for

1408
01:03:15,986 --> 01:03:18,626
Speaker 2: every team to view this level? That's the question mark.

1409
01:03:18,666 --> 01:03:20,346
Speaker 2: I think if he ends up going forty one, it

1410
01:03:20,386 --> 01:03:22,866
Speaker 2: would be because of the you know, in that range.

1411
01:03:22,906 --> 01:03:25,346
Speaker 2: It would be because the athletic stuff. But the question

1412
01:03:25,426 --> 01:03:27,706
Speaker 2: you have to ask is is that a real reflection

1413
01:03:27,786 --> 01:03:29,466
Speaker 2: of who he is athletically? I mean, the guy's coming

1414
01:03:29,466 --> 01:03:32,866
Speaker 2: off of a major leggage, so long winded way of saying,

1415
01:03:32,906 --> 01:03:35,786
Speaker 2: don't know for sure what the range is, but there

1416
01:03:35,826 --> 01:03:37,346
Speaker 2: was a time where I would have fought twenty five,

1417
01:03:37,386 --> 01:03:39,906
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven was where the thing the range

1418
01:03:39,906 --> 01:03:42,426
Speaker 2: started for Zach Frasier. That brings to the chief at

1419
01:03:42,466 --> 01:03:44,546
Speaker 2: thirty two. Chiefs at thirty two, And I'm going to

1420
01:03:44,586 --> 01:03:46,026
Speaker 2: make it real simple, Ady Mitchell, right, I mean the

1421
01:03:46,066 --> 01:03:49,506
Speaker 2: need to wide receiver desperately, and Adie Mitchell probably I

1422
01:03:49,506 --> 01:03:52,706
Speaker 2: think he goes earlier than this, Peter, but it is

1423
01:03:53,906 --> 01:03:56,226
Speaker 2: that's a heckic there. I mean, I don't know they've

1424
01:03:56,266 --> 01:03:58,266
Speaker 2: been so money in the draft recently that I'm going

1425
01:03:58,306 --> 01:04:00,906
Speaker 2: to whoever they pick, I'm going to probably.

1426
01:04:00,546 --> 01:04:03,706
Speaker 1: Just be totally to say plus, great pick, great value.

1427
01:04:04,306 --> 01:04:06,226
Speaker 2: You know, there is pressure in the sense that they

1428
01:04:06,586 --> 01:04:08,986
Speaker 2: need some of these guys to perform, to continue to

1429
01:04:08,986 --> 01:04:11,146
Speaker 2: fill holes that they you know, that are created when

1430
01:04:11,146 --> 01:04:13,866
Speaker 2: they lose players in free agency. But we've also seen

1431
01:04:14,066 --> 01:04:17,826
Speaker 2: like it's not they didn't need Like last year's first

1432
01:04:17,906 --> 01:04:20,546
Speaker 2: round pick barely played defense.

1433
01:04:21,026 --> 01:04:24,146
Speaker 1: The defensive lineman out of what TCU out of Kansas State, Yeah,

1434
01:04:24,186 --> 01:04:25,906
Speaker 1: Kansas State and Uzoma.

1435
01:04:26,026 --> 01:04:28,746
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever I got on the field. Yeah, So it's like, yes,

1436
01:04:29,066 --> 01:04:31,186
Speaker 2: you need these guys, you also kind of don't, right,

1437
01:04:31,546 --> 01:04:33,946
Speaker 2: but I do think Aidie Mitchell or xavierly Get would

1438
01:04:33,946 --> 01:04:36,386
Speaker 2: be fascinating there. The only thing I'll add at thirty two, Peter,

1439
01:04:36,626 --> 01:04:39,106
Speaker 2: everybody talks about the possibility of teams trading up into

1440
01:04:39,106 --> 01:04:43,106
Speaker 2: the back and back quarterbacks. I'll highlight this, how about

1441
01:04:43,146 --> 01:04:45,426
Speaker 2: the potential for a wide receiver trade up? Right, You've

1442
01:04:45,426 --> 01:04:47,826
Speaker 2: got Caroline at thirty three knowing it at thirty four,

1443
01:04:48,066 --> 01:04:51,306
Speaker 2: bodd for wide receivers if they start to see that

1444
01:04:51,426 --> 01:04:53,746
Speaker 2: run happening, or if one of those guys falls a

1445
01:04:53,746 --> 01:04:56,586
Speaker 2: little bit wouldn't be. I don't have intel on either

1446
01:04:56,626 --> 01:04:59,306
Speaker 2: of those teams. I am simply using logic and noting

1447
01:04:59,346 --> 01:05:01,626
Speaker 2: that you really need a wide receiver and at some

1448
01:05:01,666 --> 01:05:04,386
Speaker 2: point that drop off takes place. Do you say, hey,

1449
01:05:04,426 --> 01:05:08,186
Speaker 2: take our third to go from thirty four to twenty

1450
01:05:08,226 --> 01:05:11,786
Speaker 2: six or thirty three out of twenty five and get

1451
01:05:11,786 --> 01:05:14,346
Speaker 2: that preferred wide receiver target. I don't remember. I'm trying to.

1452
01:05:14,386 --> 01:05:17,226
Speaker 1: I mean you both both of us are Encyclopedia's. Obviously

1453
01:05:17,226 --> 01:05:19,986
Speaker 1: we've seen the trade back into the first for quarterback

1454
01:05:20,026 --> 01:05:23,346
Speaker 1: a million times. I don't have a recollection of like, oh,

1455
01:05:23,466 --> 01:05:25,306
Speaker 1: thirty one or thirty two, like we need to trade

1456
01:05:25,346 --> 01:05:27,066
Speaker 1: up to get a wide receiver. Do you have anyone

1457
01:05:27,066 --> 01:05:28,906
Speaker 1: that you can remember that that was the guy?

1458
01:05:29,066 --> 01:05:30,946
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say. I don't think I can recall

1459
01:05:31,026 --> 01:05:33,266
Speaker 2: a wide receiver trade up, but I want to say,

1460
01:05:33,346 --> 01:05:34,706
Speaker 2: and I'm going to try to pull this up on

1461
01:05:34,746 --> 01:05:38,186
Speaker 2: the fly here through Google. Do I recall Tampa moving

1462
01:05:38,266 --> 01:05:42,506
Speaker 2: up for a late round first late first round offensive

1463
01:05:42,546 --> 01:05:47,346
Speaker 2: lineman a few years back? That maybe maybe a misrecollection there, No,

1464
01:05:47,466 --> 01:05:48,266
Speaker 2: that sounds right.

1465
01:05:48,866 --> 01:05:52,226
Speaker 1: Think it was the guy from No, No, it was

1466
01:05:52,266 --> 01:05:55,106
Speaker 1: because they took they took the big kid out of.

1467
01:05:56,946 --> 01:05:59,466
Speaker 2: What's his name, Logan Hall who this was a couple

1468
01:05:59,466 --> 01:05:59,866
Speaker 2: of years ago.

1469
01:05:59,946 --> 01:06:02,026
Speaker 1: Yes, and then the first pick they took the other

1470
01:06:02,146 --> 01:06:06,066
Speaker 1: kid who I sound like. I'm just like, was it

1471
01:06:06,106 --> 01:06:08,506
Speaker 1: feat of they took with like the thirteenth pick, and

1472
01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:09,186
Speaker 1: then that one.

1473
01:06:09,026 --> 01:06:10,546
Speaker 2: They took early. Yes. Let me just see if I

1474
01:06:10,546 --> 01:06:12,026
Speaker 2: can get this correctly. This may be wrong.

1475
01:06:12,626 --> 01:06:15,306
Speaker 1: Okay, if they have a second second, here, there we go.

1476
01:06:15,386 --> 01:06:17,546
Speaker 2: I had it backwards. It was Tampa they moved back.

1477
01:06:17,586 --> 01:06:19,666
Speaker 2: It was the year that Jacksonville moved up from thirty

1478
01:06:19,706 --> 01:06:22,226
Speaker 2: three to twenty seven from Devin Lloyd, the wide receiver.

1479
01:06:22,586 --> 01:06:24,626
Speaker 2: I'm part of the linebacker, so got it. I don't

1480
01:06:24,666 --> 01:06:26,986
Speaker 2: know why I said wide receiver there from Utah.

1481
01:06:27,106 --> 01:06:29,826
Speaker 1: Yes, and Jacksonville took that was Taevon Walker their first

1482
01:06:29,826 --> 01:06:31,426
Speaker 1: overall picks and they had Walker.

1483
01:06:31,586 --> 01:06:33,986
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, so they think, Okay, three first round picks

1484
01:06:33,986 --> 01:06:35,026
Speaker 2: that year? Am I making that up?

1485
01:06:35,106 --> 01:06:37,826
Speaker 1: Gosh, Peter, for guys who take this from did it?

1486
01:06:38,146 --> 01:06:39,946
Speaker 1: ETN was the year before which Trevor Lawrence.

1487
01:06:40,026 --> 01:06:41,826
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they had back to back years with two

1488
01:06:41,906 --> 01:06:44,066
Speaker 2: first round picks. It was Etn Lawrence and then they

1489
01:06:44,106 --> 01:06:46,746
Speaker 2: had Walker and also Devin Lloyd. There so a lot

1490
01:06:46,786 --> 01:06:49,066
Speaker 2: of capital there in Jacksonville to work with.

1491
01:06:50,506 --> 01:06:52,866
Speaker 1: All Right, I love what we just did. It was

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01:06:52,906 --> 01:06:56,306
Speaker 1: one great yeah, real quick for the listener. Should we

1493
01:06:56,386 --> 01:06:57,266
Speaker 1: should we? Just? Should?

1494
01:06:57,306 --> 01:06:58,146
Speaker 2: We just rattle it off?

1495
01:06:58,146 --> 01:06:59,666
Speaker 1: Do you have your list in front of all the picks?

1496
01:06:59,706 --> 01:07:01,386
Speaker 2: Or no? I do? I got it all right, So

1497
01:07:01,626 --> 01:07:02,266
Speaker 2: go back if you.

1498
01:07:02,306 --> 01:07:03,946
Speaker 1: Go first, Kayleb Williams.

1499
01:07:03,546 --> 01:07:05,466
Speaker 2: Kaler Williams so. The Chicago Bears number.

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01:07:05,306 --> 01:07:08,786
Speaker 1: One, number two, Washington Jaiden Daniels.

1501
01:07:08,266 --> 01:07:11,506
Speaker 2: Number three, The Patriots Drake May number four. The Giants

1502
01:07:11,546 --> 01:07:14,906
Speaker 2: trade up and get JJ McCarthy number five. The Chargers

1503
01:07:14,946 --> 01:07:18,146
Speaker 2: Dan Patt and take Marvin Harrison Junior number six. Arizona

1504
01:07:18,186 --> 01:07:21,066
Speaker 2: trades back and still gets Roma doonza Ana number seven.

1505
01:07:21,066 --> 01:07:23,666
Speaker 2: Things get spicy. The Saints trade ups take Malik Neighbors

1506
01:07:23,706 --> 01:07:26,186
Speaker 2: number seven. Meeting Tennessee moves back to fourteen.

1507
01:07:26,746 --> 01:07:30,786
Speaker 1: Number eight Atlanta, Rahim Morris's first pick as a new

1508
01:07:30,786 --> 01:07:33,506
Speaker 1: head coach of the Falcons takes Dallas Turner defensive end

1509
01:07:33,506 --> 01:07:34,986
Speaker 1: at Alabama.

1510
01:07:34,426 --> 01:07:36,746
Speaker 2: And number nine. The Chicago Bears Stan Patt and take

1511
01:07:36,786 --> 01:07:39,186
Speaker 2: Troy Futon Tanu A little bit of disruptive pick there

1512
01:07:39,226 --> 01:07:41,586
Speaker 2: from the University of Washington.

1513
01:07:41,306 --> 01:07:43,586
Speaker 1: Jets go with ten and stay where they are, and

1514
01:07:43,626 --> 01:07:46,186
Speaker 1: they take the tight end brock Bowers out of Georgia.

1515
01:07:46,306 --> 01:07:48,786
Speaker 2: Vikings don't move up, so they take Leatu Latu, the

1516
01:07:48,906 --> 01:07:50,906
Speaker 2: awesome ed rusher from UCLA.

1517
01:07:51,106 --> 01:07:54,706
Speaker 1: Number twelve, the Denver Broncos, with the number one offensive

1518
01:07:54,706 --> 01:07:56,906
Speaker 1: tackle prospect and a lot of teams boards sitting on

1519
01:07:56,946 --> 01:07:59,226
Speaker 1: the board, they take Joe alt out of Notre Dame.

1520
01:07:59,786 --> 01:08:03,426
Speaker 2: Alrighty, and the Raiders at number thirteen take Michael Pennis Junior.

1521
01:08:04,866 --> 01:08:05,946
Speaker 1: I love that, and that's where it.

1522
01:08:06,946 --> 01:08:10,866
Speaker 2: Tom Talco, you dog, he's the most unpredictable GM in

1523
01:08:10,866 --> 01:08:13,586
Speaker 2: the f IS. It's yes, it's great. He's a hard

1524
01:08:13,586 --> 01:08:16,106
Speaker 2: gear after years. That's a hat tip to him, by

1525
01:08:16,106 --> 01:08:16,866
Speaker 2: the way it is.

1526
01:08:16,946 --> 01:08:19,026
Speaker 1: And they and say what you want about the Chargers

1527
01:08:19,026 --> 01:08:21,506
Speaker 1: win losses. Over the last decade, their first round picks

1528
01:08:21,546 --> 01:08:25,506
Speaker 1: have been absolutely money. Uh fourteen the Titans. They trade

1529
01:08:25,546 --> 01:08:28,986
Speaker 1: back and they get Tally Tally fu Wanga. I was

1530
01:08:29,026 --> 01:08:32,866
Speaker 1: told to make it an enng like like to Popago violo.

1531
01:08:33,066 --> 01:08:36,466
Speaker 1: So it's Tali fu Wanga offensive tackle Oregon State.

1532
01:08:36,786 --> 01:08:39,146
Speaker 2: Okay, it is noted now Tali fu Wanga.

1533
01:08:39,146 --> 01:08:39,426
Speaker 1: All right?

1534
01:08:39,466 --> 01:08:44,186
Speaker 2: So fifteen Indianapolis Colts quin Mitchell cornerback from Twedo.

1535
01:08:44,226 --> 01:08:49,786
Speaker 1: Great sixteen Seahawks, Olo Olu Fashanu, offensive tackle slash whatever

1536
01:08:49,786 --> 01:08:51,146
Speaker 1: you need them to be, Penn State.

1537
01:08:51,506 --> 01:08:53,266
Speaker 2: And then you go right back to the well because

1538
01:08:53,306 --> 01:08:55,866
Speaker 2: you're this is our flip our roll our odds to

1539
01:08:55,866 --> 01:08:57,026
Speaker 2: Evans reversal.

1540
01:08:56,666 --> 01:09:00,906
Speaker 1: Here seventeen Jacksonville Jaguars. They select Arry and Arnold cornerback

1541
01:09:00,946 --> 01:09:01,826
Speaker 1: out of Alabama.

1542
01:09:02,186 --> 01:09:05,146
Speaker 2: Eighteen. My personal apology tour begins. The Bengals take a

1543
01:09:05,226 --> 01:09:08,986
Speaker 2: Marius JC. I hate them after previously taking imperious myths.

1544
01:09:09,026 --> 01:09:11,186
Speaker 2: Jac Latham is the pick confirmed at number eighteen.

1545
01:09:11,466 --> 01:09:13,026
Speaker 1: Would you be shocked if that was the order of

1546
01:09:13,066 --> 01:09:15,146
Speaker 1: the offensive tackles? If it went then I go through

1547
01:09:15,146 --> 01:09:20,986
Speaker 1: it here? Yeah, Batanu okay, then Joe Alt, then Fuaga,

1548
01:09:21,146 --> 01:09:25,386
Speaker 1: then Fashanu and then going with Latham all the way

1549
01:09:25,426 --> 01:09:26,746
Speaker 1: down there as the fifth one take And would you

1550
01:09:26,786 --> 01:09:27,146
Speaker 1: be shocked?

1551
01:09:27,226 --> 01:09:30,386
Speaker 2: Or there are some massive, massive grades on Jac Latham

1552
01:09:30,386 --> 01:09:33,706
Speaker 2: around the NFL, Peter, so I would be surprised. But

1553
01:09:33,746 --> 01:09:37,066
Speaker 2: those massive grades may not necessarily be held by teams

1554
01:09:37,106 --> 01:09:40,026
Speaker 2: that are in a position to make those first picks

1555
01:09:40,106 --> 01:09:41,306
Speaker 2: of the offensive tackles.

1556
01:09:41,506 --> 01:09:44,746
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could be the I heard he could be

1557
01:09:44,786 --> 01:09:46,986
Speaker 1: the first one taken. I mean, so it could be anywhere,

1558
01:09:46,986 --> 01:09:48,706
Speaker 1: So we haven't fit. That's just the draft. That's how

1559
01:09:48,706 --> 01:09:50,946
Speaker 1: it goes. Sorry, that's what it is.

1560
01:09:51,426 --> 01:09:54,226
Speaker 2: Number nineteen Spice Tour.

1561
01:09:54,346 --> 01:09:57,706
Speaker 1: This is where screw it. Ladi McConkie. Come at US

1562
01:09:57,746 --> 01:09:58,826
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Georgia.

1563
01:09:59,146 --> 01:10:01,866
Speaker 2: Lad McConkie, love it, great player, four, three, nine and forty.

1564
01:10:01,866 --> 01:10:04,386
Speaker 2: The guy can absolutely fly. Graham Barton goes twenty to

1565
01:10:04,426 --> 01:10:08,066
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers meat potatoes film that center film in

1566
01:10:08,066 --> 01:10:09,666
Speaker 2: at center. Right away we run.

1567
01:10:10,306 --> 01:10:14,106
Speaker 1: Number twenty one Byron Murphy, defensive tackle out of Texas.

1568
01:10:15,106 --> 01:10:18,146
Speaker 2: That one feels just too good to ignore. No Christian

1569
01:10:18,146 --> 01:10:20,826
Speaker 2: Milkins anymore. Our number twenty two Eagles on the clock.

1570
01:10:20,906 --> 01:10:23,546
Speaker 2: They take Amarius Mims, who again got through the grips

1571
01:10:23,586 --> 01:10:25,266
Speaker 2: of the Bengals because they took jac.

1572
01:10:25,186 --> 01:10:28,866
Speaker 1: Lath all right. Twenty three the Vikings. I don't gonna

1573
01:10:28,866 --> 01:10:31,186
Speaker 1: say they're settling, but they get the fifth quarterback off

1574
01:10:31,266 --> 01:10:34,026
Speaker 1: the board, bow Nick our sixth bo Nick's quarterback out

1575
01:10:34,026 --> 01:10:34,506
Speaker 1: of Oregon.

1576
01:10:34,746 --> 01:10:37,466
Speaker 2: Bo's got good tape, man. I get it. People are

1577
01:10:37,466 --> 01:10:39,546
Speaker 2: gonna want the guy in the first five picks, and

1578
01:10:39,626 --> 01:10:41,666
Speaker 2: I understand that I would too. But Bo's got some

1579
01:10:41,666 --> 01:10:44,386
Speaker 2: good tape. Tyler got in twenty fourth overall of the Cowboys'

1580
01:10:44,746 --> 01:10:47,906
Speaker 2: potential to play left tackle or right tackle, but they

1581
01:10:47,986 --> 01:10:49,946
Speaker 2: got Terrence Steele there, so he settled in it left.

1582
01:10:50,426 --> 01:10:53,386
Speaker 1: Twenty five Jared Verse to the Packers Florida State.

1583
01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:55,906
Speaker 2: Yeap, and then chop Robinson twenty six, So back to

1584
01:10:55,906 --> 01:10:58,026
Speaker 2: back ed rushers. He goes to the Buccaneers, who still

1585
01:10:58,026 --> 01:11:01,226
Speaker 2: have the need opposite of Joe Tryon Trianca.

1586
01:11:01,386 --> 01:11:03,786
Speaker 1: Yes, let's go back to back to back defensive lineman.

1587
01:11:03,866 --> 01:11:06,346
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals select Darius Robinson Adam.

1588
01:11:06,986 --> 01:11:08,866
Speaker 2: Yeah, I talk about some good tape right there. All right,

1589
01:11:08,906 --> 01:11:11,986
Speaker 2: So twenty eight Buffalo Bills take Brian Thomas, junior wide

1590
01:11:12,026 --> 01:11:14,066
Speaker 2: receiver from LSU to pair with Josh Allen.

1591
01:11:14,866 --> 01:11:16,946
Speaker 1: If he falls to twenty eight, you say that's crazy.

1592
01:11:16,986 --> 01:11:18,586
Speaker 1: It happens, guys, twenty does happen?

1593
01:11:18,706 --> 01:11:18,946
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1594
01:11:18,986 --> 01:11:22,066
Speaker 1: The Lions take kool Aid mckinstrey defensive back out of.

1595
01:11:22,106 --> 01:11:25,986
Speaker 2: Alabama, number thirty. So again we were in running we

1596
01:11:25,986 --> 01:11:28,986
Speaker 2: are in cornerback run territory. Nate Wiggans goes from Clemson

1597
01:11:29,026 --> 01:11:32,106
Speaker 2: to the Baltimore Ravens, who need offensive line and cornerback.

1598
01:11:31,666 --> 01:11:35,106
Speaker 1: Helpt and thirty one, I said, screw it. The forty

1599
01:11:35,186 --> 01:11:38,186
Speaker 1: nine ers take a center coming off a broken leg.

1600
01:11:38,266 --> 01:11:40,386
Speaker 1: Zach Frasier at O West Virginia, Yep.

1601
01:11:40,426 --> 01:11:43,226
Speaker 2: Can never. It's never toally to look ahead, especially when

1602
01:11:43,226 --> 01:11:45,306
Speaker 2: you have an investment that could be amongst the highest

1603
01:11:45,306 --> 01:11:47,266
Speaker 2: paid players in the league next year. In brock Purty.

1604
01:11:47,346 --> 01:11:49,106
Speaker 2: And then thirty two, the Chiefs wrap things up with

1605
01:11:49,146 --> 01:11:53,346
Speaker 2: Ady Mitchell. Personal apologies for me, Peter go to Cooper Degen,

1606
01:11:53,426 --> 01:11:55,426
Speaker 2: the highest rated player on my board that did not

1607
01:11:55,586 --> 01:11:56,746
Speaker 2: go in the first round.

1608
01:11:57,106 --> 01:12:00,266
Speaker 1: And personal apology to me is to Jordan Morgan who

1609
01:12:00,386 --> 01:12:02,786
Speaker 1: put the hat on and everything and still did not

1610
01:12:02,906 --> 01:12:05,546
Speaker 1: go in our first round. Guys, that is our first

1611
01:12:05,666 --> 01:12:10,506
Speaker 1: round fields ninety minutes of just just juice. I loved it, dude,

1612
01:12:10,586 --> 01:12:12,186
Speaker 1: you are so great at what you do. I'm wishing

1613
01:12:12,146 --> 01:12:14,786
Speaker 1: you need so much luck. Over the next ten days,

1614
01:12:14,826 --> 01:12:16,906
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a blast, and I'll be watching obviously,

1615
01:12:17,306 --> 01:12:20,266
Speaker 1: and maybe we're sets are sort of near each other.

1616
01:12:20,306 --> 01:12:21,746
Speaker 1: We can give a little fifth pound, like you know.

1617
01:12:21,706 --> 01:12:23,266
Speaker 2: I love I would love to do it. Yeah, No,

1618
01:12:23,346 --> 01:12:25,986
Speaker 2: I love how much I love how much the draft

1619
01:12:26,026 --> 01:12:27,746
Speaker 2: means to you, and I admire the heck out of

1620
01:12:27,786 --> 01:12:30,306
Speaker 2: your process and all that you do. And I'm glad

1621
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,466
Speaker 2: that Good Morning Football will be on the air during

1622
01:12:32,466 --> 01:12:35,906
Speaker 2: the draft because fans strongly deserve your and the entire

1623
01:12:35,946 --> 01:12:38,146
Speaker 2: panels insight for that. That great I mean to me,

1624
01:12:38,306 --> 01:12:40,346
Speaker 2: the you know, the second best event on the entire

1625
01:12:40,466 --> 01:12:43,706
Speaker 2: NFL calendar, behind only the super Bowl, which may sound sacrilegious.

1626
01:12:44,626 --> 01:12:46,146
Speaker 2: I might go, I might, I might go.

1627
01:12:46,266 --> 01:12:48,026
Speaker 1: Draft combine then super Bowl.

1628
01:12:48,106 --> 01:12:50,826
Speaker 2: That's not much. You love it, that's dedication to it.

1629
01:12:50,906 --> 01:12:54,026
Speaker 1: Love it great, Field, Yates, You're the man. Thank you

1630
01:12:54,066 --> 01:12:54,426
Speaker 1: so much.

1631
01:12:54,626 --> 01:12:55,146
Speaker 2: Thank you, Peter.

1632
01:12:57,546 --> 01:12:59,786
Speaker 1: So there you go, guys. Hopefully you are on a

1633
01:12:59,826 --> 01:13:01,986
Speaker 1: commute or you're on a run or a jog, or

1634
01:13:02,026 --> 01:13:03,786
Speaker 1: you broke it up with the two spots like that

1635
01:13:04,026 --> 01:13:07,306
Speaker 1: is just content. That is just juice. And Field is

1636
01:13:07,346 --> 01:13:09,506
Speaker 1: great at what he does. You could watch him on

1637
01:13:09,666 --> 01:13:13,106
Speaker 1: ABC's coverage the first two nights and then ESPN's coverage

1638
01:13:13,106 --> 01:13:16,546
Speaker 1: on day three. I encourage you to do so, flip around.

1639
01:13:16,666 --> 01:13:19,826
Speaker 1: I'll be over on NFL network. But there's so much

1640
01:13:19,866 --> 01:13:22,746
Speaker 1: good draft coverage. Field is one of the greats, and

1641
01:13:22,786 --> 01:13:25,586
Speaker 1: he's really coming into his own. I love when we

1642
01:13:25,626 --> 01:13:27,946
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't have

1643
01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:29,826
Speaker 1: Michael Pennox in my first round of my mock draft.

1644
01:13:29,866 --> 01:13:31,906
Speaker 1: He's got him going thirteenth over all of the Raiders.

1645
01:13:32,186 --> 01:13:33,466
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of this thing. The two of us

1646
01:13:33,466 --> 01:13:35,826
Speaker 1: are as plugged in as anybody, and that's how different

1647
01:13:35,866 --> 01:13:38,346
Speaker 1: it can be. I'm gonna do one more of these,

1648
01:13:38,386 --> 01:13:40,266
Speaker 1: I think this week we're working on. It might be

1649
01:13:40,266 --> 01:13:42,466
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah, it might be with somebody else, but

1650
01:13:42,666 --> 01:13:44,306
Speaker 1: I feel like this is what you guys want from

1651
01:13:44,306 --> 01:13:47,146
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from all the feedback on the podcast.

1652
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:48,986
Speaker 1: You liked these last year, We'll keep on doing them

1653
01:13:48,986 --> 01:13:51,826
Speaker 1: this year up until draft. It's a simulation, it's an exercise,

1654
01:13:51,866 --> 01:13:53,666
Speaker 1: but it also informs you on a lot of these guys.

1655
01:13:53,706 --> 01:13:56,426
Speaker 1: I got about fifty nuggets from players that I didn't

1656
01:13:56,426 --> 01:13:59,786
Speaker 1: know just listening to Field Talk. The Roma Dunesday stuff

1657
01:13:59,866 --> 01:14:02,306
Speaker 1: was terrific. And of course you talk about Quinny on

1658
01:14:02,346 --> 01:14:05,586
Speaker 1: Mitchell being described as a genius. I had not heard that.

1659
01:14:05,826 --> 01:14:07,906
Speaker 1: I love that. I will add that to my repertoire

1660
01:14:07,946 --> 01:14:10,546
Speaker 1: and I will consider that as a good info to

1661
01:14:10,626 --> 01:14:13,986
Speaker 1: share moving forward. But there you go. More draft stuff

1662
01:14:14,026 --> 01:14:16,826
Speaker 1: and on behalf of Aaron Wang Kaufman who's been just

1663
01:14:16,866 --> 01:14:19,866
Speaker 1: fantastic and flexible around my schedule. And Chason English and

1664
01:14:19,866 --> 01:14:22,066
Speaker 1: everybody at the NFL network, and in this case, I

1665
01:14:22,066 --> 01:14:26,066
Speaker 1: guess ESPN. We're all hands on board here. The NFL

1666
01:14:26,146 --> 01:14:28,306
Speaker 1: Draft is one of my favorite events, and I want

1667
01:14:28,346 --> 01:14:30,826
Speaker 1: to make sure you guys are as well informed as

1668
01:14:30,986 --> 01:14:34,346
Speaker 1: possible until next time. This is the Season Peter schreg

1669
01:14:42,746 --> 01:14:45,466
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1670
01:14:45,626 --> 01:14:49,586
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