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Middlecoff mailbag is my 18 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Instagram at John Middlecoff. I don't know exactly, maybe put 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: it on the weekend. Might not do a pod for Monday, 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: than have another one Tuesday. Not exactly sure for the 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: schedule for the next probably two or three weeks as 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: we hit July fourth. That's you know historically, you know, 23 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: I've been in the audio business now almost a decade. 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: That's when times slow, definitely in radio. But we're not 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: on radio. We're on podcast, and you guys listen. I mean, 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it's crazy. You see the download. Sometimes someone listens to 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: your podcast like three or four weeks later. It's the 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: great part about this medium, in this industry. So it 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: might not matter. So I'm gonna keep pumping out content. 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: We're efforting some guests to hold us over for the 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: next month because there's not that much going on. I mean, 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: let's just call a spade a spade. But I actually 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: got it. I'm pretty fired up on some of the 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: stuff that's going on. Obviously, the Deshaun Watson, I mean, 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Damn Snyder and the Redskins were just exhausting. I watched 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: his interview with Mike Tomlin. I'm gonna start their arch 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Manning Peyton's nephew broke the internet this morning. He committed 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: to Texas. God. He is a he is a load. 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean I've stood next to Payton and Eli. They 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: are enormous human beings. And in that picture that went viral, 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: he's standing kind of close to him. He's he's not 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: as thick as they are, partly because he's seventeen years old, 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: but he's close to their size. And then the NBA Draft, 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I have something on that actually right off the top 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: of him and hit on. I'm recording this before the draft, 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: but middlecoff mailbackfire in those dms. Share the podcast with 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: your friends, share them with your enemies, share it with 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: all your people. We're big on organic reach here and 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, I guess, I guess. Let's start with Mike Tomlin. 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: He did an interview Ryan Clark, Shannon Crowder, and Fred Taylor, 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: former Jackson running back. Have I guess this podcast called 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: the Pivot. They went to Mike Tomlin's house and they 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: went to his basement and they each had a twelve 54 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: pack and they just slammed beers and bullshitted for an 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: hour and a half and it was fantastic. It was 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: I watched the whole thing the other night. Tomlin he 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: would I bag on these TV execs because they hire 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, when they hired Drew Brees. You knew where 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I stood on that. I thought it was embarrassing. You 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: knew who was gonna be terrible. Obviously they've gotten it 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: right with Tony Romo, who I don't know if you 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: saw that video that went viral and Tony Romo, he's 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: playing in match play in Wisconsin and his back. I mean, 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: he's forty two years old. He's in so much pain. 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Tony. But Mike Tomlin would be 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: incredible on television, like him and Sean mcvayh are made 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: for it. And watching Mike Tomlin, you're just blown away 68 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: by how good he is with people. And listen, when 69 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you're looking for an NFL head coach and let's face 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: their jobs. I mean, we're a decade away from a 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: coach is making thirty forty million dollars a year. I mean, 72 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the top guys are making fifteen twenty now, and I think, ideally, 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: you want a guy that can lead and who can 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: scheme right. If I'm going to pay a CEO thirty 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: forty million dollars, I'd like him to be able to 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: do everything in the business market, understand finances, understand the 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: future of the business, to be a dynamic overall guy, 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: right Elon Bezos. I mean, there are some CEOs that 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: are better than others, clearly, and there are some head 80 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: coaches that are better than others because Belichick, Andy, what 81 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: can they do? They can lead and they can scheme. 82 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: The young guys Kyle McVeigh can lead and they can scheme. 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: Now I think we can say, is Tomlin some elite schemer? Clearly, No, 84 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know that that's not his strong point. But he 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: is an elite leader. And I think one thing we've 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: seen of guys that have failed over probably the last 87 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: couple decades in the NFL, we have seen a ton 88 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: of great coordinator become head coaches and sucked because they 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: were great schemers. Right. Pat Schermer's had been a head 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: coach multiple times, great schemer. He becomes an offensive coordinator, 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: remember Minnesota takes him to the NFC Championship with case 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: Keenum and it's awesome. Then he gets to the Giants 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and he's a laughing stock. McAdoo, who was an excellent 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: schemer as an offensive coordinator for Tom Coughlin, takes over 95 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: for Eli is laughed out of the building. So we 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: have seen time and time again, guys that can scheme, 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: but they can't lead, because once you're no longer in 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: front of half the team, you're in front of everybody. 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: You're leading the entire building. Honestly, you're leading the entire city. 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: And most guys become overwhelmed with that. You gotta have 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: thick skin, you gotta be very secure in yourself, and 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: you gotta have some innate qualities, and Mike was born 103 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: with that. And you watch this thing and you go listen. 104 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: If I had to pick a coach, you're shooting for 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: the stars. You want Kyle Shanahanner, Sean McVeigh. But most 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: guys are not that. And if I had to lean 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: over leader or schematic, if I could just pick one 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: of the two, I think you go Leader because his 109 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: ability and looking back, I mean, he handled Antonio Brown, Roethlisberger. 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: They have had so many crazy guys on the Pittsburgh 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Steelers over the years, and he's handled it relative with ease. 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: Now you can say he hasn't won a playoff game 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: in six years or whatever, and obviously that's not ideal, 114 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: but he doesn't lose. He I mean last year or somehow, 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: he made the playoffs with a quarterback that couldn't throw 116 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: it down the field. I mean, Roethlisberger was basically Jimmy 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Garoppolo last year and they got some luck. But I 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: just think that I don't know if Mike Tomlin gets 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: enough credit for how great of a leader he is, 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: how great of just a front man he is for 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: an organization. And we we'll see. He's got a new 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: general manager, they got a new quarterback. He admitted in 123 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: this interview basically that he's scared as hell because like 124 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: obviously he's excited getting rid of Roethlisberger starting over, but 125 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: knows that more than likely this is gonna be a massive, 126 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: massive challenge and where I stand, Trubisky is definitely not 127 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: good enough. I'm not a Candy Pickett fan, but I 128 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: believe watching this thing. I believe in this guy, and 129 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: I think they will continue to be competitive, and it 130 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me at all if they make the playoffs. 131 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: And then the other thing watching this talking about Antonio 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Brown is like if you're following the NBA drama right now, 133 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Kyrie such a pain in the ass, And I'm not talking. 134 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: The vaccine stuff during the season never bothered me. I 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: thought New York were the wackos. They were like one 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: of two places them in San Francisco. They were mandating 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: that you had to get vaccinated to play in the building, 138 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: but the away guys could play. It was so stupid. 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: The media piled on him, yet nobody piled on the 140 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: policymakers that made absolutely no sense. But that's neither here 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: nor there. The reality is there's a lot of other stuff. 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Kyrie's a whack job, but on any given night, he 143 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: can score fifty points, just like Antonio Brown, complete lunatic. 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: He was the best player in the league non quarterback 145 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: for like four straight years. And I remember I had 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: a buddy on the Raider staff that when Antonio got there, 147 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, the bizarre part about Antonio is 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: like he's very hit or miss. He's like some days 149 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: and this was just during like OTAs he'd come in, 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: we'd be in the meeting room, we'd be in a 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: team meeting, and he'd be awesome. He'd be laughing with 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: the guys. We'd get on the practice field, and the 153 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Raiders weren't as good then, you know, three or four 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: years ago as they are now. He was so good 155 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: when they got him, and then he kind of got 156 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: weird and some days you just look at him. He 157 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to anybody, He'd be playing on his phone. 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Gruden wouldn't quite know how to interact with him. He 159 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: was just very hot and cold, right, And that's what 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: some of these guys are. But it's so easy. Like 161 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the best players in the league, Tom Brady, Aaron Donald, 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you don't even have to think about him. They show up, 163 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: they keep your shit out of everybody, They do their work, 164 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: they approach everything the right way. They never get in trouble. 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: They're the easiest guys to pay. And then the other 166 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: half of the league is like guys that are kind 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: of fringe guys but do everything they can maximize their talent, 168 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: and again you don't need to worry about them. And 169 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: then you have this crew of guys that are a 170 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: complete pain in here, you know what, but they're so 171 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: good that you have to deal with them. And that's 172 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: where Antonio Round was forever, that's where Kyrie is, and 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys like that, and that's part 174 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: of professional sports. There are only so many of these 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: human beings, and you have to have talent in the 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: in the NFL to win just like you do in 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: the NBA, just like you do in baseball, and not everyone, 178 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: but he's a choirboy. Some people are just tough to 179 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: deal with. That's no different than normal society, right. Anyone 180 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: listening to this that has an office knows, sometimes your 181 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: best sales guy is a complete asshole. You know, Sometimes 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: your guys number two in your company is a dick, 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: but he might be very important to the operation and 184 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you can't operate without him. And I think whenever you 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: can avoid and we talk a lot about this during 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: the draft, and this is why character and people's makeup 187 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: is so important, because ultimately in sports, with Antonio Brown 188 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: or Kyrie, and they were different. Antonio Brown was a 189 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: late round pick who became something. Kyrie was the number 190 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: one pick. All they come in different shapes and sizes. 191 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: But once you get one of these guys associated with 192 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: your team, you're kind of stuck because you can't often 193 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: get rid of him because they're so good and they 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: are irreplaceable, but you never really enjoy being around him 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: because they're just not very enjoyable. And I think it's 196 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: why during the draft that ultimately teams are so desperate 197 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: to just find the best player that's a good guy. 198 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: And it's why so many teams take guys with character 199 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: stuff off the board because even if early on, and 200 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: this happens a lot right early on, even a guy 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: that's been in trouble, been arrested, been suspended when he 202 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: was in college, gets to the pros, he's on his 203 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: best behavior. He's trying to earn his next contract. He's 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: trying to prove that, you know, he's worthy of the 205 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: draft selection. And then once he starts bawling, and once 206 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: he gets his money, he's you know, your true colors 207 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: typically come out the more cash you get. And you 208 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of people say cash just kind of 209 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: reveals your true you know, true character, your true colors, 210 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and that's often what happens, especially fame and fortune for sure. 211 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: So the bigger you get, the harder it is to 212 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: avoid or show people who you really are. And it's 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: why ideally you get really good people and they can 214 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: just handle it. And it's hard. I mean, sometimes you're 215 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: immature and you go through some stuff. But I think 216 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin looking back, that he was able to handle 217 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown for almost nine seasons. Are Levy on Bell? 218 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Remember when Levy on Bell and Lea Garrett Blunt got 219 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: a dui on the way to the team playing and 220 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: the technically they were just smoking but got pulled over 221 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: on the way of the team playing high as hell 222 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: like that's what Tomlin was dealing with. And it never 223 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they were just ten eleven games every single year. 224 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: So you know, it just shows you. Man, this in 225 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the NBA Draft, which I've kind of developed this theory, 226 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this watching the Warriors in the 227 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. You know, in football, you have to go 228 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: to college for three years, and that's if you're only 229 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: a three and done guy. In the NFL, if you're elite, 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: most guys go for school for four or five years. Right, 231 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: So at minimum, every guy in the NFL has gone 232 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: to college for three years. I would bet if we 233 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: did a study, every single guy in the NFL has 234 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: averaged over four year in college and in the sport 235 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: of football anyone that's played high school football, let alone 236 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: college football or the pros. Honestly, a pro practice is 237 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: not that much different than a high school practice. Right. 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: You go out to practice, you stretch, then you go 239 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: with your group and you do individual drills. You do 240 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: the most basic fundamental drills. Right, It's like writing or 241 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: reading the equivalent of football. Your footwork. You know, if 242 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, under center, if you're a running back, 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: ball security, if you're a dB. The footwork, the most 244 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: basic drills that you do in high school, you end 245 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: up doing in the pros when you're making millions. And 246 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: it's why, you know, if you watch football, the game 247 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: has changed because we have regulated the hitting and the 248 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 1: physicality out of the sport. And that's because the lawsuits 249 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: for CTE. The media freaked out and the NFL pivoted, 250 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: and I'll give them credit, they went incredibly hard one way. 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: And look at Mike McCarthy and Ron Rivera just got 252 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: fined one hundred thousand dollars in lost practices. They are 253 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: not fucking around with that. If you're a physical and OTAs, 254 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the players will turn you in and the NFL will 255 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: have the players back. We have enough evidence now. Teams 256 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: are getting popped over. And I remember last year the 257 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers one of their rookie dbs because a 258 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: lot of guys during OTA's love putting on Instagram their 259 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: highlights from practice. You know, when they're just sitting on 260 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: their iPad and the rookie dB like mauld this wide 261 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: receiver at the line of scrimmage posted it that the 262 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: team didn't even put it out. The NFL saw it 263 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: and they dock couching and hand a practice like they 264 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: are not messing around. And fundamentals and physicality are obviously 265 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: a huge part of the sport, but you can't be 266 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: physical in these practice. But the fundamentals are a big deal, 267 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and all these guys learn these fundamentals through high school 268 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: up through the pros. And I'm watching the Boston Celtics 269 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: who are in the NBA finals. They're two best players, 270 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum can't dribble a basketball. They 271 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: are NBA players. Both these guys are on like one 272 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollar contracts. They can't dribble. Think 273 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: about that, But isn't that crazy. Both those guys were 274 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: one and duns. And when you say one and duns, 275 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: when you're a one and done college basketball player, you 276 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: really go to school for six months. You don't go 277 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: to school the second half of the year because you're 278 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: immediately going pros. Think about the lack of fundamentals all 279 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: these guys. If you're listening to this on Friday. The 280 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: NBA Draft happened on Thursday night. All these guys are 281 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: one and dense, all the top guys, we're freshmen. They 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: literally were in college for six months and then they left. 283 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: And then the way they've become a big deal going 284 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: into college was AAU basketball, which is nothing like this 285 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: is being played in the NBA. It's why so many 286 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: of these old school guys talk a lot of shit 287 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: about AU. It's basically like a bunch of individuals playing 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: fundamentals have been lost in the sport of basketball. I 289 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: actually think, and all these guys love to tell me 290 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: there's never been more town in the NBA. There's never 291 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: been more town in the NBA. I call bullshit on that. 292 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: There's never been more athletic talent in the NBA. Speed, size, strength, Yeah, 293 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: but in terms of fundamentals, like I think a lot 294 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: of teams in the nineties would drub the teams now, 295 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: not the Warriors, anything about the Warriors, Steph Close, Jeph 296 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Curry three years in college, Draymond Green four years in college, 297 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson three years in college. Really, their resume is 298 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot like an NFL player. They went to college, 299 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: they learned fundamentals of basketball, and even they can be 300 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: a little loosey goosey. But whenever you draft a guy, 301 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: I think about all the guys this year, Cabon Thibodeaux, 302 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: who's the number one prospect coming out of high school, 303 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: three years in Oregon, Aid Hutchinson, several years in Michigan. 304 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: All these guys, even all the Georgia guys. We're all 305 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: at minimum there three seasons. Will A Anderson, who easily 306 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: would have been the number one pick in the NFL 307 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: Draft this year, was not eligible to come out. He's 308 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: at Alabama. He participated in spring drills. I don't know 309 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: how much save it actually made him do, but he 310 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: had to stay in school. So think about the base 311 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and the fundamentals you develop. It's why a lot of 312 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: people think about, like most of us non professional athletes, 313 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: as our career goes, we make more money, right, we 314 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: have more success because in your twenties you build a base. 315 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: In your thirties, you learn a lot more in your forties, 316 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: Like it just continues to go. We're in you know, 317 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: in basketball, you just get thrown in the fire. And 318 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: most guys like they can get by with athletic ability, 319 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: but they don't actually know how to play. We're in football. 320 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: You have no choice but to know how to play 321 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: because it's it's literally taught every day in practice, and 322 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: you're forced to go to the equivalent of the minor 323 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: leagues in college, which really benefits the NFL. That's why 324 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: the product. I don't know if it's never been better 325 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: we can. I like the game a little more physically. 326 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't love the version of what we have, but 327 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: in terms of an entertainment value, and I just see 328 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: the ratings, I mean, you guys enjoy it, and that's 329 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: all that matters to me. 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It's not he can't put pen to paper 365 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: till later this year. A couple quick thoughts. I've never 366 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: met Steve Sarkisian. I know several people that know him well, 367 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: and they love the guy. He is very very well 368 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: thought of by people, and obviously Coward has been friends 369 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: with him a long time. People really really if you 370 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: root for the guy. I guess there is one way 371 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: to say it. My take has always been and I 372 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: think sometimes when I'm anti guy people at Middlecoff you 373 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: have a vendetta just a personal shot, like, no, I 374 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: have no issue with these guys personally. I'm just not 375 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: sure and I think his resume would speak as a 376 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: head coach. He's any good and the best part about 377 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: pro sports unlike all these other industries, like it's pretty 378 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: black and white. Do you win or do you lose? 379 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: And I would say historically, Steve sarkisi just doesn't win. 380 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean last year he lost a fucking Kansas. He 381 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: lost to the University of Kansas. Think about that. He 382 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: went six and seven. Now I root for college football. 383 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I love college football plays a big part of my 384 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: life in the fall. I love watching it just like 385 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's the second biggest sport in America. 386 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: It is very, very entertaining. But the University of Texas, 387 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: just the NFL D they did not have a player drafted. 388 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: I thought last year was a low point, right, They 389 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: go six and seven, they lose to Kansas starks guy 390 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: that he brings from Alabama, that married the stripper, had 391 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: the monkey that bit the kid. I mean, it was 392 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: a disaster. They were a laughing stock. But because a 393 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of people like this guy in something to be 394 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: said in life about having people like you that goes 395 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: a long way. I think we'd all agree. And Steve 396 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Sarkisian is very well liked and he's a great recruiter. 397 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Because of that. Now, I don't believe just because he's 398 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Eli and Peyton's nephew and Archie's grandson that I remember 399 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: when Peyton if you read about when Peyton went to 400 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee or Eli went to Old Miss Archie said, it's 401 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: their decision. They can do whatever they want. And I 402 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: believe reading a bunch of articles about this, that they 403 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: allowed arch to make this decision. And it came down 404 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: to Alabama, Georgia in Texas and I've only been to 405 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: Austin once. Yeah, I thought it was a little overrated, 406 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: to be honest, but I understand it in theory it 407 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: should be a big time place to play college football, 408 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and historically I actually think it's. Historically it's a little overrated. 409 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: It Google Oklahoma's last forty years and google Texas last 410 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: forty years. It ain't even close. You know, I judge 411 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you based on your rival right, Like Ohio State versus Mission. 412 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State's on a completely different level than Michigan Alabama. Auburn. 413 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Alabama's on a completely different level than Auburn ucla USC 414 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: like USC's on a completely different football I'm talking football. 415 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: Duke North Carolina, you'd say that's pretty even and I 416 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: remember when coach k played him, they showed the historical 417 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: win loss record it was both basically tied. It's pretty incredible. 418 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: But this was a big deal for Sark because what 419 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: happened last season, especially once the monkey bit the kid. 420 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: I thought like, this guy might not make it two years, 421 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: but you get Arch, it's gonna buy him several years now. 422 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: And they're going to the SEC. And let's face it, 423 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: if they were in the SEC this year, they would 424 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: get curb stomped, that they would get absolutely molly wapped. 425 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: It would be a blood bath for them. So they 426 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: have several years. They're not going to go to twenty 427 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty five. By then, Art should be a sophomore or 428 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: junior in college. Obviously he comes from a lot of money. 429 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: I would imagine Texas gave him a lot of cash. 430 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: You know, the going rate for these guys three four 431 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: five million dollars now it's the atomic sums. Now. I'm 432 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: not saying he need quote unquote needed the money, but 433 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: he definitely got paid. And I think it's a big 434 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: deal for the program. Never forget the highest rated game 435 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: in the history of college football, thirty plus million people. 436 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Vince Young Matt Leiner, Texas USC like it. It's why 437 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: it's such a big deal that Lincoln Riley went to USC. 438 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: And we just had him on my other podcast and 439 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: he downplayed it. But because also he's from Oklahoma. He's 440 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: been making eight nine million dollars now for five or 441 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: six years. But USC being relevant is a big deal 442 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: for college football, just like they would love for Texas. 443 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: They don't need him winning the national championship, but they 444 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: would instead of going six and seven and losing to Kansas, 445 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: how about we win ten eleven games and having arch 446 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: banning is a really big deal. Now. The one thing 447 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: I wonder, the pressure on this kid is gonna be 448 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: like Lebron James. I mean, and he's not. We talk 449 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: about him like he's peyton realized kid. He's not. He's 450 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: their nephew. But he's discussed like that. Obviously, Peyton and 451 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Eli are going to be going to these games. I'm 452 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: sure the pressure is going to be immense. I can't 453 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: even fathom being seventeen years old and having that kind 454 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: of target on my back. Now, you could argue he's 455 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: grown up around it. You kind of when you're around 456 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: something for a while, it's like experience you become I 457 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: would say, somewhat numb to it. I saw they were. 458 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: Jordan's speet did an interview recently and someone asked him like, 459 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: how do you get so used to hitting around all 460 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: these people watching you hit a golf ball? And He's like, 461 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: after a while, you just get used to it. You 462 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: don't even see them because you know, like when you're 463 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: watching a big golf tournament and it's like a major 464 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: and everyone corrals, like ten thousand people around a guy 465 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: in the rough, You're like, I would shank that ball, 466 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: and the guy just hits it perfectly on the green. 467 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: Just it's just like anything you do something for a while, 468 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: you get used to it. I mean, when you're a manning, 469 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, in this country, you're basically royalty. So he's 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: been around the best and the brightest and the bright lights, 471 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: and people have been talking about this guy, I mean, 472 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: seventeen years old and we've been talking about him now 473 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: three or four years. I just don't know anything less 474 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: than being like Trevor Lawrence, Andrew Luck as a college 475 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: player and as a college prospect is going to feel, 476 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, like he underachieved. And you could argue that's 477 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: not fair, but that's just kind of the world he's 478 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: in the life. I don't know if he necessarily chose it, 479 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: but the chose him, that the last name chose him, 480 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: and he's clearly has some god given talents. I've watched 481 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: some high school clips. You know, I'm not some high 482 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: school recruiting expert. I remember watching him play basketball and 483 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: thought like, holy shit, this guy's a monster, so absolutely 484 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: massive get for Texas also makes sense if you're him. 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: Never forget Peyton Manning went to Tennessee because he didn't 486 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: want to follow in his dad's footsteps, and it was 487 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: a big deal in the SEC. I mean I was 488 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: junior high or whatever. But watching the documentaries about it, 489 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: like Archie got a lot of shit for having his 490 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: son go there, and ultimately he said, it's not my choice, 491 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: it's Peyton's. And it's you know, one of the biggest 492 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: recruiting gets in the history of the most important conference 493 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: in the country. And obviously Eli went ended up going 494 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: to Old Miss this year, got his you know, number retired. 495 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: But I just do wonder like it came down to 496 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: three people, right, Nick Saban Kirby Smart and the University 497 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: of Texas and Sark, you can't. What are you gonna 498 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: do with Alabama win another national championship? I mean they've 499 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: won six or seven, so that to me, if you're arch, 500 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Obviously you're gonna win there, but you're 501 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: not gonna get that much credit there. Georgia, I do 502 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: think you would get some credit, but maybe you just 503 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: don't want to go to Georgia, so you come to Texas, which, 504 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: if you read the articles, like starks quarterback coach recruited 505 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: him really heavily and it worked. So Stark's landing. Dudes, 506 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: now it's time for him to start winning some games. 507 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson paid off twenty of the twenty four women 508 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: that were suing him. He settled with them. You know, 509 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I always get struggled with the legal legal jargon because 510 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm just state school guy, never 511 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: went to law school. Don't even quite understand I know 512 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: the basic civil and criminal. But Reading Florio wrote a 513 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: little blog post that Deshaun Watson has been working with 514 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: the NFL on his punishment, and he says this is 515 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: not abnormal. Players work with the league when they know 516 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: they're going to get suspended. Basically, waiving their right to 517 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, what's it called, not not sue, but to 518 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: have the union fight for them. So if you give 519 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: me five games, if you give me ten games, I 520 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: waive my right to fight it, I waive my right 521 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: to Basically, I don't know the words escaping me, but 522 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. And Florio wrote that the negotiations 523 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: fell apart, but I think it's pretty clear that someone 524 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL had to tell him, Deshaun, every single 525 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: day women are added to this case. Every single day 526 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: you look worse, and every single day you look worse, 527 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: our league works looks worse. So you better figure this 528 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: shit out. I don't think him settling randomly, when for 529 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: two straight years or a year and a half he 530 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: not only refused to settle, he was adamant, I'm going 531 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: to clear my name. So to me, he settled thinking 532 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: this would help him with the NFL. And last week 533 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I think Mary Kay said on NFL radio when the 534 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Browns acquired him, and this is so arrogant to think this, 535 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Haslim, you're a moron if you thought this. 536 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: They thought he'd only get five or six games when 537 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: they acquired him, which to me, I don't totally believe 538 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: because the way they set up is two hundred thirty 539 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. They paid him a million dollars a 540 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: year one. When you pay him a million dollars a 541 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: year one, you're basically acknowledge, like listen, if you do 542 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: get to spend it for the year, you're only losing 543 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: a million dollars. So to me, they set it up 544 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: knowing that this was worst case scenario or knowing this 545 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: was very possible. But I think it's pretty clear that 546 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: DeShawn settling all these cases, and let's face it, like 547 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: it's the damage has already been done, Like the court 548 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: of public opinion, we've already decided that, like listen, whether 549 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: he's guilty or innocent. I have no clue, he said. 550 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: She said things I've been saying for years on this podcast. 551 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't even like pretending no one has any clue 552 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: except him and the twenty million massage therapist that he 553 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: was hooking up with. But what I can red flag 554 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: him is I will never look at him the same. 555 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: He was a rich, good looking NFL quarterback and he 556 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: had to use massage therapists to get laid. Like every 557 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: single guy I talked to in the NFL, looks at 558 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: this guy and goes like, I don't even take him 559 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: seriously anymore. And I'm not saying like I'm not getting 560 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: on my moral high horse and not there's a guy 561 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: on every NFL team. There's probably a coach on every 562 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: NFL staff who has done something with a massage therapist. 563 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: So he ain't alone, but he is alone having every 564 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: single one in Texas and then they all like just 565 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: randomly colluded to get him, and clearly will eventually find 566 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: out because they all signed NDA's when he paid him off. Like, 567 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: as we know, I don't even know what an NDA 568 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: means anymore, because we've seen time and time again people 569 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: talk with these situations like this got way out of control, 570 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: spiraled out of control, and it's not over necessarily. But 571 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: I think that DeShawn, I think it's fair to take 572 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: an educated guest started getting pressure from the league. You 573 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: need to make the ship go away. If you ever 574 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: want to play in our league again, if you don't 575 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: want to get suspended indefinitely, you gotta figure your stuff out. 576 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: We're tired of seeing these headlines. You need to get 577 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: your house in order, bro, And clearly he is attempted 578 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: to do that. I do just wonder if it's a 579 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: little too little, too late. The other thing is that 580 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: the Redskins, the Commanders, whatever the hell they're called. God, 581 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: they're exhausting and God, they're toxic. And it really starts 582 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: and ends with Dan Snyder. And I can't even keep 583 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: up with everything. But it's just always something. Commissioner Goodell 584 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: had to go in front of the House Committee yesterday 585 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: because of Dan Snyder. So there is a reason that 586 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: they want this guy out. It's just drip, drip, drip. 587 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: There's just a toxicity with the guy. The reason Elon 588 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: musk Twitter as a good get, I think because he 589 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: realized if you get off Twitter, the people that talk 590 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: and love Twitter are media people. It is their microphone. 591 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: They think it's a really big deal, even though potentially 592 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: there's like five six percent of society is on it. 593 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: On the grand scheme of things, it's pretty irrelevant. And 594 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: when you talk to people outside of the Internet, just 595 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: like in a real life situation at a bar at dinner, 596 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: you bring up Twitter, it has a toxic vibe. People 597 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: think it's just negative comments come up. It's a place 598 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: of hate and anger, and it is as someone I 599 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: use it and I was like, God, I hate the place. 600 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I feel like. The Redskins are the 601 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: commanders are to the NFL, you just save the people. 602 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Go oh oh, you know, they're just they are an 603 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: anchor right now on a league that is printing money, 604 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: that is running circles around every single sport in America. 605 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: It ain't even close. I saw there was a statistic 606 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: out the other day that Game six of the NBA 607 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Finals a little over thirteen million people watched. More people 608 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: watch Game six of the World Series a year ago. 609 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: But bottom line, thirteen million people. If I put Jags 610 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: Texans on Thursday night next week, thirteen million people would 611 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: watch with the East. I mean, the NFL has no 612 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: problem getting people to watch games, and I think they 613 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: have never been stronger in terms of their relevance. Obviously, 614 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: gambling's blowing up, but this situation with Dan Snyder, it 615 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: is just one thing after another. Now I heard I 616 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: was in the car the other day driving to the 617 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: airport and Pellasaro, Tom Pellosaro, who I like. Tom Pillasar. 618 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I've running into him sometimes at forty nine or training camp. 619 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Nice guy covers the NFL for a long time, works 620 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL network now and he lives in Minnesota, 621 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: and he was on with Pat McAfee. I don't know 622 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: if you've heard of him. He's got a pretty big show. 623 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: And he was telling Pat like and this gets back 624 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: to Cuban when what's his name with the Clippers, Donald 625 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Sterling got kicked out for when Vivian Stiviana or whatever 626 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: the hell name was turned his ass into TMZ and 627 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 1: Cuban said, you know, it's a slippery slope if we 628 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: start kicking owners out. And remember everyone freaked out, like, wow, 629 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: how can you say that? He said such a he said, 630 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Rachel bad words. It is true. But Mark Cuban's thinking like, 631 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: it's just like, listen, this opens It's just it opens 632 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: the possibility for who knows what for any owner. A 633 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: lot of owners got some you know, some skeletons in 634 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: their closet, right, so it's it's easy to kind of pound. 635 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: This is what I always say about moral high horse guy. 636 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: The louder you scream about your morals, and you know, 637 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: especially on Twitter all the media, the more I think 638 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: you're a fraud behind closed doors, the louder you are 639 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: the bigger fraud. I think you are. That's just a 640 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: philosophy I have, and I see it a lot with Live, 641 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, to live golf. All these guys go into 642 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: the sadis. There are several people that cover golf. They 643 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: are very loud and outspoken. I would be fascinated to 644 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: see what skeletons are in their closet, what shady shit 645 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: they're doing. I'll promise you they got it. And just 646 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: like all these owners. Man now, the Donald Sterling thing 647 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: was very black and white. Donald Sterling was a complete loser. 648 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: They were looking for a reason. They hated him, and 649 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: it was an easy thing for them to do. The 650 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder situation, it feels like he's wearing a lot 651 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: of people out. He clearly is now. I don't know 652 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: if there's anything concrete for them to kick him out, 653 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: but they've been circling the wagons to try to boot him. 654 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: I think they want Jeff Bezos to own that team. 655 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: I've said forever like Jeff Bezos is so rich, he's 656 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: not just going to own any team. He wants to 657 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: own that team. He owns The Washington Post clearly has 658 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: a he wants to stranglehold. He buys a bunch of politicians. 659 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: He wants to own the Washington football team, and I 660 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: think the league would like him to own it. But 661 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: you gotta get this guy out. And I've been saying 662 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: it forever. They've been coming after this guy for a 663 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: long fucking time. And Dan Snyder is not Mark Davis. 664 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: He did not inherit this team. He made hundreds of 665 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: millions of dollars in his late twenties. He is a 666 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: self made He might be a scumbag, he might be 667 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: an a hole. Everyone hates the guy, but he clearly 668 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: is kind of smart and he has avoided all these 669 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: situations over the years. Somehow. Remember what was the what 670 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: was the mobster's name they took over for the five families? 671 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: His nickname was teflon Don because no one could no 672 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: one could take him out. The mob couldn't kill them, 673 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: and the police couldn't take him down. And I think 674 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: there are elements of this with Dan Snyder. I think 675 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult. But Po Pelasaro mentioned that like 676 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: some owners are just they get uncomfortable with kicking people 677 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: out because listen, rich people do shady shit. That's just 678 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: reality of kind of the you know, sometimes the crew 679 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: and the people they run with. So if you open 680 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: the closet on all these guys, you're gonna find some stuff. 681 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: I'll listen. I've heard stories, and i don't even know 682 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: any these guys personally, but I've heard some stories that 683 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: would make some people uncomfortable immediately. So it's gonna be 684 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: fascinating to see where this goes. But you can't keep 685 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: going in front of Congress and have this going well. 686 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: There has to be a lot of people in the 687 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: NFL that will do anything humanly possible to get this 688 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: guy removed. And if this this guy gets removed and 689 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: this team goes on the open market, we just side 690 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. Now, the Denver Broncos does not 691 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: have this negative connotation around them, and they sold for 692 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: four point six billion dollars, the biggest sale in the 693 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: history of American sports. If you put the Washington Commanders, Redskins, 694 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, on the open market 695 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: in that market, with that history, in that division, that's 696 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: the number one TV market division in the league. The Giants, 697 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Eagles, and them, I think they would 698 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: get five billion dollars with these and I think Bezos 699 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: would pay cash. It last, but not least rip to 700 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: Tony Saragosa, who I say it all the time. I 701 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: think to be it's so easy to be, like I 702 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: want to work in the media. Well, do you have 703 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: a good personality? Just because you were successful in whatever 704 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: you did doesn't mean you're going to be good with 705 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: a mic in front of you. Think of historically, like 706 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: Joe Montana was terrible. Is Tom Brady gonna be any good? 707 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: I have no clue. Drew Brees first ballot Hall of 708 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: Famer puts you to sleep. Then there are certain guys 709 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: that aren't Hall of Fame players that weren't all pros 710 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: or Pro bowlers. I think Tony Saragosa had his moments 711 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: where he's a pretty good player, but are just like 712 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: this guy? Is it now? Ideally you get Charles Barkley, 713 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: all time great player, Hall of Famer, one of the 714 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: best players of a generation, elite personality, that's a total package. 715 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: That's a guy that makes I bet Charles has made 716 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars post career because of his personality. 717 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: And then there're a guy like Tony Sarah Goose And 718 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: let's face it, when you're an offensive lineman or a 719 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You're a little under the radar, but the 720 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: one thing you are is when you're really big, there's 721 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: a lovable connection. And I think Charles has this because 722 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: he's kind of fat, and I think we all can 723 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of relate to that. And Tony sarah Gousa was massive, 724 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: but he had this just gregarious personality. I honestly, when 725 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: I think of Tony Saragosa, I think about him more 726 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: on the sideline with a microphone than I do as 727 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. He was lovable. Now, as of recording this, 728 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: I haven't seen how he passed. I saw the clip 729 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: that went viral. If you remember the Baltimore Ravens. I 730 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: think the year after they won the Super Bowl, so 731 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: it would have been two thousand and one. We're on 732 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: HBO Hard Knocks and he, you know, Shannon Sharp ray 733 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: lewis him and there was this clip of him taking 734 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: his kids to toys r ust during training camp, and 735 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: you start doing the math. He had a daughter who 736 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: was probably four or five. I mean she's got to 737 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: be in her mid twenties, and then he had a 738 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: son who was probably one or two, and you're like, God, 739 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: you know these two kids just lost their father in 740 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: their early twenties. It just kind of breaks your heart. 741 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: Just a special personality, you know. And obviously he went 742 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: to another level when Fox hired him. He did sidelines 743 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: for them. But you know, I saw a lot of 744 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: people on social media giving him praise and giving him 745 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: shot outs. Michael Mike Silver, who actually now has a podcast. 746 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: I saw he interviewed McVeigh and Ceedee Lambs some other 747 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: guys tweeted out this article that he wrote on him 748 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: for UH for Sports Illustrated years ago, and it was 749 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: just hilarious talking about how the world needs plumbers and 750 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: relating a plumber to himself as a defensive tackle. Just 751 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: an enjoyable guy. So R I P Tony Saragosa have 752 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: a good weekend. Talk to everyone soon. Audios. The volume