1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: There's a name that you may not remember, but it's 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: a name that I think should be remembered by everyone, 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: and I believe that this person is an actual hero. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: John Paul mack Isaac. Remember that name, John Paul mac Isaac. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: Who is John Paul mac Isaac. He's the hero. He's 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: the man who was the legal owner of Hunter Biden's 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: laptop when Hunter Biden didn't pick it up from his shop. 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: We now know for a fact that he followed the rules. 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: We know that he did everything right, and the media 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: and the left and the FBI and the IRFS now 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: still did everything they could to destroy him in order 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat named Joe Biden, 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: a good man who represents the most vulnerable minority in 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the world. The individual did everything he was supposed to do, 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: everything they told him to do, and for that they 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: took away everything he had and refused to protect him 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: from the most obscene injustices that you will ever hear about. Now. 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: Before a drunken man entered his life with three broken laptops, 19 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: John Paul Maciaac owned a home, owned a small business, 20 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: and had carved out a life for himself in Wilmington, Delaware. 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: John Paul Maciaac wasn't looking for trouble by the way, 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: or to become famous or do anything other than quietly 23 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: live his life. Then walked in a drunk, entitled and 24 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: corrupt Vice President's son, Hunter Biden. And even after he 25 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: knew what he had, John Paul mac Isaac didn't try 26 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: to financially or politically profit for the potential windfall handed 27 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: to him and then legally surrendered to him by Hunter Biden. 28 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: He could have called and gotten an attorney and probably 29 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: made himself six figures, maybe even seven by handing the 30 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: laptop back over to the Biden crime family. He didn't 31 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: do that. He still did the right thing. He never 32 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: stopped doing the right thing. He could have sold the 33 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: contents of that laptop to or sold his story about 34 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the contents of the laptop for probably easy six to 35 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: seven figures, maybe even more. He could have shopped it 36 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: around on the market. He could have shopped it around 37 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: to different political people and easily gotten seven figures for 38 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the content. He didn't do it, and for that, for 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: being nothing more than less than an innocent bystander who 40 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: followed the rules. The media, the irs, the FBI, the 41 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Biden at regime has destroyed everything that John Paul mac 42 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Isaac created. He lost literally his whole life. Now the 43 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: media is not going to tell you this part of 44 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: the story because they don't want you to know just 45 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: how bad it's become for this man. His business, by 46 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:34,559 Speaker 1: the way gone, his trade gone, his privacy gone. Everything 47 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: that he worked for they took away from him. He 48 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: now might even lose his home. Who are they? I'm 49 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: talking about the government, the FBI that's sat purposely on 50 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: explosive evidence that would have set John Paul mac Isaac 51 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: free and did so to protect a wealthy and powerful 52 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: democrat named Joe Biden. Protected the man instead of the 53 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: innocent man who let them know about the contents of 54 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: the laptop. They is also the former fifty deep state 55 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: swamp intelligence officials who, knowing that the laptop was real 56 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: and the content was real, smeared this man, John Paul 57 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: mac Isaac. They claimed that he was a Russian spy. 58 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: And why did they do that? They said it was 59 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. These fifty former top intelligence officials said they 60 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: did it to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat by 61 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: the name of Joe Biden. They is the all powerful 62 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: tech giants who falsely accused this man whose name you 63 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: should remember as a hero, John Paul Maciaac, of traitorous 64 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: criminal behavior. They even accused him of being a hacker. 65 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: Never been a hacker in his life. Why did they 66 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: do it? Why did they say that he was a Russian? 67 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Why did they say he was working for Putin? Why 68 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: did they say that he was a hacker? Why did 69 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: they accuse him of criminal behavior? You're catching on to 70 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: the theme here to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat 71 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: named Joe Biden. And finally, who else is involved in 72 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the bigger grand plot that I referred to as they 73 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: the corrupt corporate media, the media who knew all of 74 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: what I just said to you was a lie. The 75 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: media knew the Hunter Biden laptop was legitimate almost instantly, 76 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and still for seventeen months, they spread lies and more 77 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: lies and more lies, and protected the lies that they 78 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: were telling to destroy a hero by the name of 79 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: John Paul mack Isaac. They spread these lies to destroy 80 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: his life. The New York Times now admits Hunter's laptop 81 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: is reel seventeen months later. You have to ask the 82 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: question why now? Why now? Is the media admitting that 83 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: this story is real. I will tell you why, because 84 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: they now know that something has to happen, and they're 85 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: playing defense. The New York Times admitting it it's real now. 86 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: When the media first dealt with the story, when the 87 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: news first broke, when there was that last presidential debate, 88 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Remember we didn't have as many because of COVID and 89 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: all that crap. This is what they said back in 90 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: There are fifty former national intelligence folks who said that 91 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: what this she's accusing me of is a Russian plan? 92 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Do you mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia 93 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Russia hoax? A vast majority of the intelligence people have 94 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: come out and said there's no basis at all. The 95 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: allegations against Joe and Hunter Biden have no basis. In fact, 96 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: who do you think is behind this? Well, the Russians 97 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: would be my number one guests. Obviously Russia would be 98 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the chief suspect. This information Rudy Giuliani is peddling very 99 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: well could be connected to some sort of Russian government 100 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: disinformation campaign. CBS News has learned the FBI is now 101 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: looking into whether the information found on the device maybe 102 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: part of a Russian disinformation campaign. There are fears that 103 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: what Giuliani is now pushing here in the United States 104 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: could actually be part of Russia's latest and very massive 105 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: disinformation campaign. Another wonderful propaganda coup for Vladimir Putin seeing 106 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: President Nited States holding up a newspaper promoting Kremlin propagandas 107 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that was the media. Seventeen months later, the media is 108 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: now saying, Okay, we lied to you. You can't trust 109 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the media anymore, certainly not the corporate media on anything. 110 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: You can't trust that if they actually get the truth, 111 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: that the media will even tell you the truth. The 112 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: media will publish lies about the truth to protect their 113 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: people from the truth. There are all kinds of movies 114 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: about this, by the way, about how the goal is 115 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: to find a heroic journalist who will tell the truth 116 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and save you, right the Three Days of the Condor, 117 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: or the Pelican Brief, the China Syndrome. But this media 118 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: keeps lying, and now they're having to admit that one 119 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: of their lies. I'm just kidding. It was real. It 120 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: was all real, but lied to you long enough to 121 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: kit the guy we wanted into the White House. I 122 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: want to take a step back, and I want to 123 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: really look at what the media's role used to be 124 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: in this country. The Pentagon Papers, for example, water Gate. 125 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: There used to be a fundamental idea in this country then. 126 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: The idea was that if the government was trying to 127 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: squash you, if big business we're trying to crush you 128 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: or destroy you were hurting people, if they were lying 129 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to you about the levels of chemical and water that 130 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: was around your home, and you were getting cancer, and 131 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the government was in on it, local authorities were in 132 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: on it, or the whatever it may be, that there 133 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: was a place you as an individual could go to 134 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: tell your story. If you were the lonely, simple whistleblower, 135 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: there was a place for you to go to tell 136 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: your story. And that place that safe place that you 137 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: would turn whether you were a government employee high level, 138 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: low level, whether you were a local employee high level 139 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: or low level, whether you were just a basic little 140 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: person in a office, if you saw something right, if 141 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: you saw it, there was a place you could go. 142 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: And that place that you could go was the media. 143 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: Right the place you could go is that lonely whistle blower. 144 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: There was a safe place to run. It was to 145 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the press. That's where you're supposed to go no longer. 146 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: You go to them with the wrong story, and they'll 147 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: actually run to the people you're whistle blowing on and 148 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: tell them what you're up to. They will run to 149 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the people that you're whistle blowing on to destroy your life, 150 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened to this hero who got 151 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop because Hunter Biden came in hammered 152 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: and never came back to pick them up. You used 153 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: to have a safe place to run No more. Why 154 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: because the media now is all in on it. John 155 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Paul mack Isaac sat down last week with bright Bart 156 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: News and they wanted to give him a chance to 157 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: share his story and tell it other than editing for 158 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: clarity and length, they wanted the people to hear what 159 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: he had to say unfiltered. Bright Bart News set down 160 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: to do what the media is supposed to do, to 161 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: give a safe place for a whistleblower to go. Now, 162 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: while the media has been trying to destroy him in 163 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: the deep state, in the IRS, the FBI, while the 164 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: media was attacking him and attacking this story and saying 165 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: it's just information, there's a hack or these Russian spy 166 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: these working directly for Vladimir Putin. These are the things 167 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: they said while they destroyed his entire life. The media 168 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't defend him, No, no no, the media sold him out. 169 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Bright Bartnews said this in their interview. First, I'll thank 170 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: you for doing this, mister mac isaac. Where I want 171 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: to start, especially because the corporate meeting and social media 172 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: have done so much to cover up your story. To 173 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: cover your story cover it up is to start at 174 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the beginning, when the laptop was first brought into your store. 175 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Until all this happened, you did have a storefront, correct, 176 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: John Paul mac isaac said, Yes, twenty ten, I opened 177 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: the Mac shop and the Trolley Square area of Wilmington, 178 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: a little twenty foot retail space where customers could park 179 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: right in front of the shop instead of having to 180 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: walk through a shopping mall. I'd run out pick up 181 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: the item to be repaired for them, which was a 182 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: lot more convenient than taking it to an Apple store. 183 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Bright Bart News said, And you've since lost that store 184 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: due to the fallout over the Hunter Biden laptop. John 185 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: Paul mc isaac, yes, Bright Bart News said, Now were 186 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you working that day when the laptop came in, referring 187 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: obviously to Hunter Biden. It was April twelfth, twenty nineteen, 188 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: about ten minutes before closing. I remember I was climbing 189 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: the walls to get out of the shop because it 190 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: was Friday night. At other places I want to be 191 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I remember the door opening. There was a little chime 192 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: on the door. I look up, and this is something 193 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: you remember when you're eager to get out of the 194 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: shop on a Friday night, when there's only a few 195 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: minutes to go, and there's a guy standing there holding 196 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: three maclook pros. You realize this is the end of 197 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: my evening, always on a Friday night, right, bright Bart 198 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: responded in this interview, he laughed and said this customer 199 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: with the three MacBook books was pretty intoxicated. He approached 200 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the counter and the three laptops basically slid out of 201 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: his hands onto the counter. This kind of gave me 202 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: a clue as to the individual's care level when it 203 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: came to their electronic devices. Bright Barnews says, what made 204 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: you think Hunter was drunk? The smell preceded him. He 205 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: had balanced problems, speech problems, got it. So I inspected 206 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the laptops and explained they were liquid damaged. He said 207 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: he just wanted to get the data off them. At 208 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: this point, I have to get the customer into the system, 209 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: and even if it's a returning customer, if they are 210 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: more than a few feet away, I have to ask 211 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: their name. Mister Maciaac is legally blind. Just so you know, 212 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: he said his name was Hunter. I asked, what's your 213 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: last name? And there was a long pause, almost like 214 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: he was surprised I didn't instantly recognize him, so he responded, 215 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: almost sarcastically, Biden. Then I noticed the Bo bidensticker on 216 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the top of the laptops. That was when I made 217 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the connection to who he was, and I assumed he 218 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: was looking to get memories off the dead off his 219 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: dead brother off the laptop. So I actually felt sorry 220 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: for the guy and helped him recover the data of 221 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: one of the laptops without even charging him. I just 222 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: gave him a keyboard to use because they were missing 223 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: on the laptop's keyboard. He recovered that one himself in 224 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: the shop. Normally I charge two hundred dollars for data recovery, 225 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: but I charged him eighty five to recover the remaining laptop. 226 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: This guy had just lost his brother. I then wrote 227 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: up documentation saying we're going to attempt data recovery. I 228 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: worked with him for about twenty minutes. He left with 229 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: two machines. I was left with one machine and signed 230 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: paperwork allowing me to access the computer and recover data 231 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: from it. You said there were three laptops, Breitbart said. 232 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: The man who owned the shop responded with one was 233 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a complete rite off. The liquid damage was too great. 234 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: He took that one home, along with the one he 235 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: recovered in my shop with a keyboard. The one he 236 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: left me with had power issues that made it a 237 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: touch and go process for about twenty four hours as 238 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I mitigated the data. So you complete the data recovery, 239 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: and that was the procedure. What was the procedure from there? 240 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: I contacted in the next day, April thirteen, twenty nineteen, 241 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: and requested that he'd go and pick up a one 242 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: terribied external hard drive from like a Best Buy, and 243 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: if he could drop that off at his earliest convenience, 244 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: I would transfer everything from the damage computer that was 245 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: now on my secure store server. Did you contact Hunter 246 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: three email or phone phone? You remember if you spoke 247 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: with him or left a message. I want to say 248 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: I left a message. I don't think I've ever spoken 249 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: to him on the phone. I think it was the 250 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: April seventeenth when he showed up to drop off the drive. 251 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't the best buy bag. Was he sobered during 252 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: that visit? No, no, he was not sober. Going back 253 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: to the data recovery at this point, had you seen 254 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: anything on the laptop? I'm unfamiliar with the process, so 255 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: forgive me if that's an obvious question, bright Bart News asked. 256 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: The shop owner responds with, when you're recovering data for 257 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: a customer, you want to verify it. You don't want 258 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: to call a customer and say, hey, I recovered three 259 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: hundred gigs of data off of this. Here you go 260 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: and then have them take it home just to discover 261 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: that the data corrupt. The data's corrupted, or it's missing data, 262 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: or there's an inability to access the data. Because this 263 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: machine was unable and kept unstable and kept powering on 264 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: and off, there were multiple times I had to look 265 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: at the data. Typically, when you're dealing with a lot 266 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: of data recovery from an unstable source, you want to 267 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: look at things that are going to be the most 268 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: susceptible to digital corruption. Videos have a tendency to show 269 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: corruption easier than other files on inspected video file for corruption, 270 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: and it was a good way to get a finger 271 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: on the pulse of how well the rest of data 272 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: transfer is going. Right, Bartnews says, makes sense. I want 273 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: to get into the part where this really gets intense 274 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: for this shop owner. He has to check data make 275 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: sure that the transfers are going well. You got to 276 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: see if the data transfer is corrupted. So as the 277 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: shop owner says, quote, the first time I spot checked 278 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: what I was doing, I chose the biggest file, which 279 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: was a video file, and it was a video of 280 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: him Hunter engaged in acts, multiple acts that look compromising 281 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: and gross but embarrassing above all. But at this point 282 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: there was no red flowers. His dad, Joe Biden had 283 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: not announced his candidacy yet. To me, then, this was 284 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: just a drunk guy with some nasty stuff on his computer. 285 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: It was not a political concern at that time, right, 286 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: Barnews says, And you've probably seen this before with other customers. 287 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: He responds, yes, but not this quality. It was gross, 288 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: but it's the job. Did you come across any documents 289 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah. During the spot checking, I opened 290 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: a couple of documents that immediately stuck out. There was 291 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: a file I think was called invoice, and it had 292 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: a purple dot next to it. On a Mac, you 293 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: can label files with different dots or flags, so you 294 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: can search your computer that way for all those files. 295 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: This was obviously an important file, so I wanted a 296 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: spot check it and saw a lot of money exchanging 297 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: hands two point five million from Barisma, a statement that said, 298 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: you obviously can't survive off off five hundred fifty thousand 299 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: a year. Wow. Can you imagine living in a world 300 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: where you can't survive off of more than a half 301 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: million dollars a year? It just seemed really fishy, he 302 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: went on to say. And it seemed like an awful 303 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: lot of money and a lot of clever ways to 304 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: disguise and hide that money. Okay, I thought, there's a 305 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: lot of gross stuff on this computer, but there's probably 306 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: financial concerns as well, And some of those documents were 307 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: related to foreign entities and business dealings. This is when 308 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: I started to get a little concerned. But at this 309 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: point Joe had not announced his candidacy, so this is 310 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: just another guy do the job. Get him to pick 311 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: it up. And get it out of my shop. At 312 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: this point, did you have any intention of doing anything 313 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: other than just returning the laptop to Hunter like you 314 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: would any customer. The response in the shop owner, right, 315 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I had anything to fear. Yet 316 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: it was gross and embarrassing, but this was still just 317 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: a guy. It wasn't until I'm making multi bull attempts 318 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: to get him to pick up pick it up, and 319 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: his dad announces his run for the president on April 320 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: nineteen that I have a bigger fear. What if I 321 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: knew this was somewhere out There is signed paperwork in 322 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: Hunter's possession that says I was allowed to look and 323 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: recover data from this laptop. I could only imagine how 324 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: that there was someone on Joe Biden's staff, secret service 325 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: maybe who's responsible for wrangling in old Biden family electronic devices. 326 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: The shop owner states, if you have someone in your 327 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: family who is a bit of a loose cannon, wouldn't 328 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: you want to make sure their electronic devices are accounted for? Right? 329 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Bar News. When he gave you the laptop, he gave 330 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: you authorization in writing to access all the content. Correct, 331 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: shop owner. Correct, And he has his copy of that agreement, 332 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: which could be on the floor of his truck or 333 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: on his nightstand. There was paperwork out there that gave 334 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: me permission to go into the drive and recover the data. 335 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: And if someone was worried about what was on the drive, 336 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: they were going to be worried about what I saw. 337 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: How much did you put into contacting him once the 338 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: job was done. I called him up to three or 339 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: four times over the course of a month and a 340 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: half two months there was no response. But by this 341 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: time Joe Biden has announces run and I just wanted 342 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: to get this out of my shop. I also sent 343 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: him a way to pay electronically the eighty five dollar 344 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: bill was never paid. That would have sent him regular 345 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: and automatic email reminders. So to be clear, Hunter drops 346 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: off his laptop on April the twelfth, twenty nineteen. His 347 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: data announces presidential run on April the twenty fifth. You've 348 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: made numerous attempts to reach Hunter and get this out 349 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: of your shop. Then what it's now May and things 350 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: get busy in the shop. The kids are getting out 351 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: of school and they want stuff fixed, along with educators. 352 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: So I got pretty busy and I didn't really pay 353 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: attention to anything until I saw on the news that 354 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: there were investigations into Barisma and Hunter Biden, and I 355 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: remembered seeing those names while verifying the data. So I'm 356 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: starting to really get concerned that there might be something 357 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: on this drive. Part of me was curious, but the 358 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: other part of me said, I need to get this 359 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: laptop out of here. The whole time, hanging over my 360 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: head is this document out there ian Hunter's possession giving 361 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: me the okay to look at this drive as a 362 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: summer progressed. I became even more concerned. The shop owner says, 363 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: then it's mid July, and after several more attempts to 364 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: get him to pick it up, it became my property 365 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: after those ninety days when it was legally my property. 366 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Curiosity killed the cat and I went into the laptop. 367 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: Editor's note. When Hunter Biden signed the paperwork, the work agreement, 368 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: it slipulated, and this is standard for repair businesses that 369 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: if he didn't pay for the repair, pick it up 370 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: after ninety days, ownership transferred to mister mac Isaac. Now 371 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: you're looking at the laptop's content, whine Bright bart Nude's ass. 372 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: I went in because I was concerned there was activity 373 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: related to Barisma. That was all I focused my attention on. 374 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I ignored the porn and everything that was silacious. I 375 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: wanted to see if I was sitting on something that 376 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: was potentially criminal and part of a criminal investigation. What 377 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: I saw I would describe as sinister, a blatant pay 378 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: to play scheme, and appeared to be very shady. For example, 379 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: you have a private Ukrainian citizen getting emails from the 380 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: White House discussing scheduling with the then Vice President Biden. 381 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Coming from a military family, especially my dad, I knew 382 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: that the last thing you should do is discussing an 383 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: open air email the Vice President's travel plans. At this point, 384 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I real lies this is beyond me. I'm in too deep. 385 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: So by the end of summer I determined that I 386 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: needed to some level of protection, and the best way 387 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: to do that was to get the laptop and the 388 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: drive to the FBI. So we're in August September, bright 389 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Barton News asked, He says, responds the shop owner, September. 390 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: So by now you've had the laptop since mid April. 391 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: What do you mean by a level of protection. I 392 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: was increasingly concerned someone was going to come to me 393 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and silence me either legally or physically. You were concerned 394 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: for your physical safety, Bright Barton News ass the shop owner. 395 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I believe I had. I had just cause to be 396 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: concerned for my physical safety, and I figured if I 397 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: went to the FBI, I was doing the right thing. 398 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: I was following what I call the chain of command, 399 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: and the FBI would have a paper then would have 400 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: a paper trail. This way, I could never be accused 401 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: of leaking things to tabloids, or trying to blackmail Hunter Biden, 402 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: or anything an evil person would do. In my situation, 403 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: I wanted the FBI involved and to voice my concerns 404 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: to them about my physical and legal safety. This is 405 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: information that pertained to a candidate for the president of 406 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: the United States of America. I trusted the federal government 407 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: enough and wanted a paper trail that showed I was 408 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. The FBI would be aware of 409 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: my situation, and I would have a number I could 410 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: call if I needed help. I just knew that the 411 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: FBI was there was where this had to end up, 412 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: Bright bart News. At this point, had you made any 413 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: other copies of the hard drive other than the hard 414 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: drive Hunter gave you shop owner. No. At this point, 415 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: I was only on my store server. It was only 416 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: on my store server, which I kept for a couple 417 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: of weeks after the customer collects their device. That way, 418 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: if there's a problem, I can always go to the 419 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: store server. His equipment was gathering dust on a shelf. 420 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: I hadn't made any other copies until I spoke with 421 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: my father. I eventually told him, look, Dad, I have 422 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's laptop. It's full of stuff that looks criminal. 423 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: There's embarrassing stuff. I'm worried if it gets out, If 424 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: someone on the campaign discovers I have it, I'm going 425 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: to be in trouble. I told him I wanted to 426 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: take it to the FBI, but not in Delaware with 427 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: its good old boy politics. I asked him to take 428 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: it to the FBI and Albuquerque. I mailed him a 429 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: copy of the drive and the paperwork. But also by 430 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: this time I had watched the FBI get involved with 431 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: Trump and Russian collusion and no longer felt that the 432 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: FBI was a safe bet smart man. So I made 433 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: another copy of the drive and wrote a letter to 434 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani telling him what's going on. All of that 435 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: the letter to Giuliani, and a copy of the hard 436 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: drive was given to a trusted friend with instructions to 437 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: hand the letter and hard drive to Giuliani if anything 438 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: happened to me. That was my come save me plan. 439 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Now you've got to think about how terrified this man 440 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: is to not trust his own government, to not trust 441 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: the media, not to be afraid that his life could 442 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: be ended because he had a laptop that was in 443 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: his possession that Hunter Biden never came and picked up. 444 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: Bright Bartnews says, So we're in September of twenty nineteen, 445 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: and now your friend is sitting on the letter and 446 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: your dad is headed the FBI. Right, dad went to 447 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the FBI in October and the FBI slammed the door 448 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: in his face, told him to get out of their 449 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: office while you're up, and don't talk to anybody about 450 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: any of this. Really, bright Bartnews says. The shop owner says, 451 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: my father described as the most embarrassing moment of his life. 452 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: This is a thirty year Air Force colonel to give 453 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: thirty years of your service and have a bureaucrap slammed 454 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: the door in your face. So we sat in the 455 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: dark for a month scratching our heads wondering what we 456 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: do now, but the fear level ratch it up because 457 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: now the FBI knows that we have this and doesn't 458 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: want to do anything. They kept the paperwork we presented, 459 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: the repair agreement, etc. But refused to accept the hard drive. 460 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: So now the FBI is saying, we don't want the 461 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: hard drive. We just want to know who you are 462 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: and the agreement so we know who you are. Does 463 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: that sound like the deep state and the swamp that 464 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: the President of the United States of America, Donald Trump 465 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: warned us all about. Yeah. A month later, an FBI 466 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: agent i'll call Agent Joshua reached out to my father. 467 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to contact me. I did some research on 468 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: him online. He seemed like a good guy who had 469 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: focused a lot of time going after child predator. So 470 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: I trusted him and arrange some meeting at my house. 471 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Bright Martinude says, where are we at now in the year? 472 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: When was this meeting arranged? Mid November? He showed up 473 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: with another agent I'll call Agent Mike. I voiced my 474 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: concerns about people for an in domestic who might want 475 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: to do me harm over what I've seen told them, 476 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: and I want a paper trail and the ability to 477 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: contact them if something happens. They told me they couldn't 478 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: take the laptop due to legal concerns. Really, the FBI 479 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: can't take a laptop. These are the people that take 480 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: laptops all the time, folks. But they would quote get 481 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: back to me on the morning of December ninth, agent 482 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: might call me for the serial number of the hard drive. 483 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Initially they said they were just going to come in 484 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: and make a clone of the drive. But they showed 485 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: up at ten am in my shop with a subpoena 486 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: for everything, which I thought was great. I wanted them 487 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: to take everything. I wanted it out of my shop. Right. 488 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: Barnews says, Okay, so we're in December. You've had this 489 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: compromising information since April, for eight months, and you've not 490 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: reached out to anyone other than the FBI. Correct. You'd 491 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: not even reached out to Giuliani. Correct, You had only 492 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: sent the letter and hard drive to a friend to 493 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: send to Giuliani in case of trouble. Right, that's right. 494 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: The man says. How many copies were there the hard 495 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: drive at this point? My dad had the copy that 496 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: was supposed to go to the FBI, but they declined it. 497 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: My friend had a copy for safekeeping. I had a 498 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: copy on my store server. Did the FBI ever demand 499 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: all the copies? Nope, they never asked, and I wasn't 500 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: about to advertise smart Bright Bartnews says for perspective, it 501 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: was around September twenty eighth when the Wall Street Journal 502 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: released a call that then President Trump was putting pressure 503 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: on Ukraine President Zelenski for information about what the Bidens 504 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: were up to during the Obama administration, and Democrat House 505 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Speaker Nancy Pelosi ran with that as grounds for impeachment. 506 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: When I realized all of this, he was at the 507 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: same time when my dad was going to the FBI, 508 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: and I thought the timing would be critical or crucial 509 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: because that was on the laptop, and what was on 510 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: the laptop showed why Trump called Zelensky to find out 511 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: about the Bidens in Ukraine. I felt it was important 512 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: that the laptop be admitted as evidence if there was 513 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: an impeach trial. So now it's December, these two FBI 514 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: agents are in my house and I gave them pronounce 515 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: from the laptop that would show them that the laptop 516 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: was relevant evidence to the impeachment hearings. They refused to 517 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: look at it or even pick it up. I never said, hey, 518 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: this is relevant to impeachment. I didn't want this to 519 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: be partisan. I just wanted to do the right thing. 520 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be political about it, but the 521 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: country was headed to its third impeachment in history, and 522 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: if I could prevent that embarrassment, I wanted to try 523 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Right Bart News. At this point, still, after eight months 524 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: and all the political stuff going on, you had to 525 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: you had not reached out to the media or any 526 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: political operatives like Giuliani. Shop owner, No, it would have 527 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: been completely inappropriate. Only the FBI. The FBI is where 528 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: this had to go. So I gave them everything and 529 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: joked about leaving their names out of any book I write. 530 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: And this is when Agent Mike says, in our experience, 531 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: nothing ever happens to people who don't talk about these things. 532 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Whoa right Bartnews responds shop owner. I was so happy 533 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: to get that stuff out of my life. It took 534 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: me a couple of hours before I realize that that 535 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: was a thinly veiled threat. Sure was. They also said 536 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: that if anyone comes looking for the laptop, that I'm 537 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: supposed to stall them. Say it's off site and I'll 538 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: need a couple of days to get it. The FBI said, 539 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm to take this person's information, contact them, and the 540 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: FBI will return everything to me. Well that's a red flag. 541 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: How can they return everything if it's going to be 542 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: considered evidence. Agent Mike told me he was my contact now, 543 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: not Agent Josh, and I'm only to contact him via 544 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: text message, no emails. A couple of hours after they 545 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: collect the equipment, I got a call from an IT 546 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: guy at the Wilmington FBI office. They were having trouble 547 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: accessing the drive. There were two separate calls where I 548 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: had to help them through this. But this was another 549 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: red flag. Why didn't it go directly to DC? Why 550 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: are they poking it with a stick in a field office. 551 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Two weeks later, Agent Mike calls and asked if anyone's 552 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: been in and seen and seemed surprised no one has this. 553 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: As mid December twenty nineteen, we get through the holidays, 554 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: the impeachment hearings begin. I keep waiting for the laptop 555 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: to be admitted into evidence. I'd seen what was on 556 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: the laptop. I knew it was relevant to impeachment. The 557 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: very least, it should have been given to the White 558 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: House to aid in the present's defense. So at this 559 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: time I can only assume the FBI has no intention 560 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: of letting that laptop be submitted as evidence. Now I 561 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: have to worry about myself, my own safety and identity. 562 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: I felt even more alone and exposed. This is when 563 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: went to Giuliani No with the help of my father 564 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: and uncle. This is when we tried to go to 565 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: Congress after the FBI slash Justice Department. That seemed like 566 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: the appropriate next step. Republicans and Democrats are just republicans. 567 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Brightbart News ass shop owner says Republicans. All I wanted 568 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: from day one was to stay safe, protect my business, 569 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: and protect my status in my community. And I knew 570 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: that in northern Delaware, Biden country, I would have to 571 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: remain in the shadows. So I enlisted two retired colonels, 572 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: my father and uncle, to go to Congress for me. 573 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: They also tried to reach the White House without any luck. 574 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: And this is my biggest regret, my fear of being exposed, 575 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: that my father and uncle out there to Congress and 576 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: they were met by the guards. I think I could 577 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: have explained what I had better, Especially in an environment 578 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: where the fear of Russian disinformation was so great that 579 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: anything like this was being shut down. Everyone was afraid 580 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: to let anyone talk to anyone for fear being caught 581 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: up in a conspiracy. Now you've been sitting on this 582 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: for nine months, why not go to the media right 583 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: bart Neew's ass shop owner. I wanted to do this 584 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: right through the correct channels. I tried the Justice Department, 585 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: I tried Congress, and now it's August twenty twenty. I've 586 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: been sitting on this for more than a year, and 587 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: I've decided it was time to go to the present, 588 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: directly to his attorney. So I came out of the 589 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: shadows and emailed Giuliani directly. So you waited until August 590 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You waited sixteen months, shop owner end of 591 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: August around the twenty fourth, nine months after the FBI 592 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: picked it up and did nothing with it. You gave 593 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: the FBI nine months to do the right thing. Yep, 594 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: And I get a call from Rudy's lawyer, Bob Costello. 595 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: It was a few days before they believed I was 596 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: for real, and on August twenty eighth, I overnight a 597 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: copy of the drive. Bob wanted to pay for the 598 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: shipping and reimburse me for the drive. I said no, 599 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: I didn't want any money. Bob Costello, by the way, 600 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: confirmed this. That's how paranoid I was about anyone judging 601 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: this in a certain light. Perceptions mattered. The shop owner said, 602 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to the press because I 603 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to be accused of not going through the 604 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: proper channels or doing this for money. I've seen how 605 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: things can pervert noble gestures, and I didn't want my 606 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: action seen as anything other than honorable. No money change hands, 607 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: even for your expenses, questioned Mark bright Bart News asked 608 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: shop owner, right, and I didn't want anyone to know 609 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: who I was, including Giuliani. My thinking was geared towards 610 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: saving my denity in business. So Rudy's attorney has the drive, 611 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: and I'm happy. I'm thinking mission accomplished. It's over. I 612 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: have a paper trail proven, the FBI has it, the 613 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: Presence lawyer has it. I haven't profited. I've acted honorably. 614 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: I thought my job was done. Then on September the twenties, 615 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: fifth Republican Senator Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson released their 616 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Senate rep on Hunter's business dealings. I went through it. 617 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of the money that was given 618 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: to Hunter, but not what he had done to earn 619 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: that money. So I reached out to Senator Johnson's office 620 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: or the whistleblower link on the website and explained the 621 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: situation I was in. I heard back, but the fear 622 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: of Russian disinformation got nowhere other than a ninety minute 623 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: call with two NSA guys and a johnson A grilling 624 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: me about being a Russian spy instead of the laptop contents. 625 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: They never once asked me about the laptop right, Bartnews 626 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: sounds like they might have been worried about getting pranked exactly. 627 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: I get it. I don't fault them. The hysteria was 628 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: so whipped up. I'm disappointed, but life goes on. Then 629 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday, October eleventh, twenty twenty, a few days before 630 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: the Posts ran the story. On October fourteenth, I get 631 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: a knock on my door. The shop's closed, but I'm 632 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: in there working and it's a reporter, which scared the 633 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: hell out of me. Ever thought I would have to 634 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: speak to a reporter It was never my intention, but 635 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: now my name is out there. Who gave your name 636 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: to the Post? I called Bob Costell and asked, why 637 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: is the press here? He assured me the Post is 638 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: going to run the story, but this standard, this is 639 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: standard operating procedure. They wanted to ensure you're a real person. 640 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: Then on the night of October thirteenth that I get 641 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: a call from Hunter's lawyers, George Massirius, and he asked 642 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: me if I was still in possession of a laptop 643 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: his client dropped off in April of the previous year. 644 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: I told him what the FBI told me to say. 645 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: Please for your credentials so I know you who are 646 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: who you say you are. He agreed, but also asked 647 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: questions about my physical location. Is your store still in 648 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: the shopping center? So now I'm scared. I didn't go 649 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: home that night. I called Bob Costello. He tells me, 650 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag. The Posts run the 651 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: story tomorrow. There's nothing that can be done. It's I 652 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: slapped at a friend's house that night. I wake up 653 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: the next morning and my phone is blowing up the Post. 654 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: Forget the Post, forgot to blow out my shop's name 655 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: and one of the images they published, So within an 656 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: hour everyone knew who I was. Then within an hour 657 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: I watched Twitter and mainstream media block and repress the story. Right, 658 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: bart News, it sounds like you had an agreement with 659 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: a post remain anonymous shop owner. I didn't want my 660 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: name or shop name made public. I was. It was 661 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: a tiny mistake on their part. They bloored out everything 662 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: in the Hunter paperwork except some fine print that said 663 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: the mac shop is not liable. They were very apologetic. 664 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: In my mind, the Post did what I needed them 665 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: to do. They got the story out, and that's what 666 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: I wanted. To protect my personal safety, especially if Biden one. 667 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: If Biden one and this had not been made public, 668 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: with all of the people who knew I had this, 669 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: how would I have survived? Not to beat up post. 670 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: This is bright bart News talking now, It says, but 671 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: the what if question must be a pebble in your shoe, 672 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: as in, how different would my life be right now 673 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: had the Post protected my identity? Shop owner says, I 674 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: don't look at it that way. My what if is 675 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: what if the FBI had done its job? What if 676 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: they had taken the drive in October twenty nineteen and 677 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: done something with it instead of doing nothing with it. 678 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: I count four times, including the time Rudy handed it 679 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: to them, that the FBI had the opportunity, opportunity to 680 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: do something and chose not to. If they had done nothing, 681 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: if they excuse me, if they had done something two 682 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: and a half years ago, maybe now I would have 683 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: a job and I wouldn't have had to have gone 684 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: to Giuliani, and Giuliani wouldn't have had to go to 685 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: the Post to get the truth out bright bart News. 686 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: Excellent point. Tell me what happened to your life afterwards? 687 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: You lost your shop, correct? I did? I tried to 688 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: open for another two and a half weeks, initially because 689 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: the corporate media and social media suppression. My customers were 690 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: unaware of the story. The only question they had were 691 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: about why there were police cars parked outside the shop. 692 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: Police cars. I have to say, the Wilmington Police Department 693 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: really stepped up after the death threats started pouring in. 694 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: I called Bob Castello, who called Wilmington PDE who had 695 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: a trooper out there whenever I was in the shop. 696 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: I cannot thank them enough for that. I tell you 697 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: my mom felt better knowing I was being looked after, 698 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: what form did the death threats come in? I'd answer 699 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: the phone and hear terrible things. I had to file. 700 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: I had to file a terrorist threat report with a police. 701 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: Not so many emails or text but a lot of 702 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: stuff about how Putin thank me for my service, or 703 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: how I'm a Russian stooge, or how I'm a hacker 704 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: who's going to go to prison. That's what I didn't 705 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: get why people were calling me a criminal. I had 706 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty voicemails the first day with people saying 707 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: I hope you get blown up in prison, and I 708 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: hope you rot in jail, and I'm just scratching my head. 709 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: I went to the FBI. If I did something wrong, 710 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: they would have come after me. It wasn't until later 711 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: that I realized this was because of Twitter. Twitter had 712 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: labeled me a hacker by labeling the material hacked material, 713 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: So people identified me as a hacker who had hacked 714 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: hunter's computer and stole the data and broke the law. 715 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: As far as the allegations about me working for Putin, 716 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: I can think fifty intelligence officials for that one. My 717 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: family served during the Cold War. My father and grandfather, 718 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: So that didn't sit well. I remember those fifty intelligence 719 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: officials came out and said this was Russian disinformation, even 720 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: though they knew the laptop was real. This came from 721 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: the deep state at the highest level. James Clapper, John Brennan. 722 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: They said Hunter Biden's emails was Russian different disinformation, whether 723 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: genuine or not. They all did this to this poor 724 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: man who was just trying to do the right thing. 725 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: Don't forget that bright Bart news. So you had to 726 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: close down after two and a half weeks. Yes, things 727 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: were were getting real sketchy. People were coming into the 728 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: shop without computers, which was a bad sign. That happened 729 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot. Did they come to glare at you or 730 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: yell at you. Luckily, it was busy, so when I'd 731 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: ask what they need, if they needed help, they would 732 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: say the computer was in their car and never come 733 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: back in. But I was only busy because the media 734 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: blocked the story and my customers didn't know. But that 735 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: only lasted for a week or two. After the story 736 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: spread through, I lost my computer my customers. Add that 737 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: to the death threats and these visitors, it was becoming 738 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: very becoming too dangerous. I needed to get out bride 739 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: bart News. So the story broke on October fourteenth, twenty twenty. 740 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: When did you abandon your shop? I closed up November 741 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: the second I left the state November fifth. How long 742 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: were you gone? About a year? So what's your financial 743 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: situation now? Shop owner? Bankruptcy is possible. I could lose 744 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: my house. I'm not there yet, and I hope not 745 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: to lose my house. A friend finally convinced me to 746 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: let her open give send Go account to help me out. 747 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: That's helping some. I'm also doing odd jobs like going 748 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: to people's homes and picking up trash for twenty dollars 749 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: an hour. It's not like fixing computers like it used to. 750 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to go back in the business because I 751 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: have no control over who will show up. After seventeen months, 752 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: are you still being harassed? Bright bart New's ass? Every 753 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: day I wake up to someone posting a new thing 754 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: about me being a Russian stooge. Putin invading Ukraine has 755 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: created a groundswelve attacks against me. You know, Putin thanks 756 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: you for your service, or if you're still out of money, 757 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: go to Putin he paid you before. That's daily. How 758 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: do they reach you. I have a YouTube channel where 759 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: I defend myself in postmac tech stuff. YouTube naturally has 760 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: suppressed my reach, but people find it and post in. 761 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: The comments are on Facebook page, which I don't care 762 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: about anymore. This stuff doesn't really bother me. I'm a 763 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: sticks in stones kind of purse and I'm a blind albino, 764 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: the man says, which is true. I've been picked on 765 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: forever and haven't cared for forty five years. I just 766 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: don't want to. I just don't want to break through 767 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: my window, and being legally blind, I would never see 768 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: anything coming. It's caution now, not fear. Brye bart News. 769 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: You're a forty five year old man. You handled a 770 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: situation you did not ask to be dropped into about 771 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: as honestly and honorable as anyone could. And your name 772 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: has been smeared and run through the mud. You lost 773 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: your shop, your business. It's so unjust I can hardly 774 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: articulate it. How do you perceive your future? What's your 775 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: outlook on life? The shop owner laughs, with the New 776 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: York Times finally coming out last week and admitting the 777 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: laptop was real. That's what I want to see more 778 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: of the more that the news gets out that I'm 779 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: not a hacker, not a Russian spot, not a trader. 780 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: The more quickly and officially I can rebuild my life. 781 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: Once people realize he's not these things, he did the 782 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: right thing, then I feel I will have an opportunity 783 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: to rebuild my life. Last week with the New York 784 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: Times admission that that was the first glimmer of hope 785 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: I've had an over a year. It's only one news source, 786 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: but the Washington Post just reached out to me, so right, 787 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: bar news. After all the lies the corporate media told 788 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: about you, do you trust them now? Shop owner? I 789 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: remember the day after the story broke. It was October 790 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: the fifteenth, twenty nineteen, and I had CNN, The New 791 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: York Times, a Washington Post in my store. It was 792 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: immediately obvious they were only there to catch me in 793 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: a lie. They were not there for the truth. They 794 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: wanted to catch me revealing their narrative. I told them everything. 795 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: I offered to show them a photo of Hunters signed authorization. 796 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: They weren't interested. They were only interested in there narrative. 797 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: They were only interested in what their trusted government sources 798 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: were feeding them, So they published nothing. I said because 799 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't what they wanted to hear that this was 800 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: a valid, factual, and consequential story. Yesterday I left to 801 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: comment with a Washington Post and they probably won't publish that. Right. 802 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: Bart News, CNN, the New York Times, and Washington Post 803 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: didn't use anything you said back when the story first 804 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: broke question mark. They were only interested in discrediting me. 805 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: If not, they would have told the public what I 806 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: told them. The thing that messed me up is that 807 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for this. No one coached me. I 808 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: didn't even know what I could or could not say. 809 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm cornered in my shop by five members of the press. 810 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: It was a very awkward interview. It was as uncomfortable 811 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: as I'd ever been. My main concern was protecting my family. 812 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: I didn't want my dad harassed, So it was awkward. 813 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Bright Bart News, I honestly didn't don't see anything you 814 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: did wrong here. But let me ask if you would 815 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: do anything differently if you got to do over shop owner. 816 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: Definitely I would have grown a pair if I had 817 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: known then that it didn't matter that I was going 818 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: to lose it all anyway, my business, maybe my home 819 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: and have to flee the state for a year. I 820 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: would have reached out to Giuliani at the same time 821 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: I reached out the FBI, bride Bar News. You waited 822 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: more than nine months after contacting the FBI to contact Giuliani. Yeah, 823 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't blame myself, But had I known I would 824 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: lose everything anyway? Will I feel like I could have 825 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 1: done more had I been less concerned about protecting myself. 826 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: Maybe I do blame myself, bride Bar News, or just 827 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: published the contents the laptop online? Shop owner, you know, 828 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: doing that the WikiLeaks thing just didn't feel right. We 829 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: have all these systems in place for a reason. Good point, right, 830 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: Bartnews says shop owner. You have to trust the system 831 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: that it's going to Once you go outside the system, 832 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: it has no purpose. I felt I had to do 833 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: it this way, but given a second chance, I would 834 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: I would do the same, but would work the parallel 835 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: angle with Giuliani and not worry so much about self preservation. 836 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: Some things are more important than self preservation. This country 837 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: owes you an apology, bright, Bartnew says. The shop owner says, quote, 838 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: only half the country owes me an apology. The other 839 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: half keeps going that positive feedback from those who know 840 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 1: I did the right thing has been phenomenal. But people 841 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: don't understand that something like this, what something like this 842 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: can do to crush the individual. I was an exile 843 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 1: in Colorado. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't go anywhere. 844 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: Everything I loved and cared about was far away, including 845 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: my cats. Takes a lot out of you emotionally. I 846 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: got really it got really tough. If if it wasn't 847 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: for the support I received, not just from family and friends, 848 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: but thousands and thousands of complete strangers that told me 849 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: that what I did was right. If I didn't have that, 850 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 1: I don't know where i'd be right now. I hope 851 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: all of you, by the way, we'll go to give, 852 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: send go and donate. I think it's shocking how little 853 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: money has been raised so far. I want to make 854 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: that clear. They've only raised seventy four thousand for this guy. 855 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: You can go to give, send go, and I'll put 856 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: a link up on our social media accounts. But it's 857 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: called build back mac Isaac. The funds received will go 858 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: to John Paul Maciaac. Seventy four thousand is all that 859 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: has been given to this guy, which is insane, which 860 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: should be at this point, I think millions of dollars. 861 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to post it on all of our social 862 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: media accounts so that you can get to it. So on, 863 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: get her on parlor, on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, wherever they'll 864 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: let us, we will put it up there for you. 865 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: So make sure that you go and give. I'm gonna 866 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: give because I think it's important that this man has 867 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: a future. It's shocking what has happened to this man. 868 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: It makes me angry what the government did to him, 869 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: what James Clapper would, John Brennan did to him, what 870 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: the White House has done to him, what the Bidens 871 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: have done to him. So please give to the man 872 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: who exposed Hunter Biden. Give to this man and help 873 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: because there's more coming. My friends, get ready for it. 874 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this. Get ready for it. Make sure 875 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: you share this podcast with your family and friends. 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