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Speaker 1: In mid January two thousand, Alien's father, Emiel, gave an

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Speaker 2: It has been suggested in some quarters, and I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give you the opportunity to respond that the reason

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Speaker 2: you do not come to Miami is because the Cuban

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Speaker 2: will defect. How do you respond to that?

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Speaker 1: Chris Wallace interviewed him with a life translator. Ask Emiel

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Speaker 3: Who said that?

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Speaker 4: Who said that? I think I have been extremely clear

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Speaker 4: clear people think, or some people think that I am

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Speaker 4: is go down there with a rifle. I don't know

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Speaker 4: to get rid of How many people.

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Speaker 5: Are you serious about that, sir?

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Speaker 2: That's obviously a very inflammatory remark.

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Speaker 4: And what about isn't it inflammatory what they are doing

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Speaker 4: with my son?

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Speaker 1: This moment was raw and revealed Juamiel's rage at being

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Speaker 1: kept from his son, But in the interview Chris Wallace

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Speaker 1: was hinting at something else that Framielle was being pressured

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Speaker 1: by the Cuban government to bring Ellang back to Cuba

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Speaker 1: to not affect to Miami that Framielle did not really

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Speaker 1: mean the things he was saying. This is Kennoc Coffee,

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Speaker 1: one of the attorneys for Alian's Miami relatives.

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Speaker 6: If you are living in Cuba, you're living in a

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Speaker 6: totalitarian regime where your movements are watched, your actions are controlled,

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Speaker 6: and you simply are not at liberty to advocate for

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Speaker 1: But Miuel had been a Philista rogastro for a long time.

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Speaker 1: He was part of the Cuban Communist Party, and he

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Speaker 1: used this connection after Elian was taken in by his

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Speaker 1: Miami relatives to knock on all the right doors until

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Speaker 7: So la.

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Speaker 1: Miami, and he told Castro no, he wanted to be

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Speaker 1: reunited with Elean in Cuba. Before that, the Miami family

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Speaker 1: had been hopeful. They thought this could be a chance

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Speaker 8: My uncle called Jamiel to let him know his son

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Speaker 8: and his answer was, quote, take care of him until

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Speaker 1: After the Nightline interview aired, Jamiel's uncle, Lascero responded, saying

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Speaker 1: something the family had said from the beginning. We will

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Speaker 1: United States, you know, deary, And he continued, I'm only

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Speaker 9: Also, Ramo Mdia, Yeah, my familia, miss Angry.

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Speaker 1: Here's my family, my blood, Lacearo said in a matter

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Speaker 1: using a different term than caring for Alian, one that

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Speaker 1: echo Fidel Castro saying the Miami relatives had actually kidnapped Elian,

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Speaker 1: my familiar. Pamiel said, the Miami family stopped letting him

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Speaker 1: speak with Elian, so they disputed that Alien's Iami relatives

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Speaker 1: and other Cuban Americans believed Castro cast a shadow over

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Speaker 10: Did that?

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Speaker 1: Sora and Penny later meres and this is Chess Peace.

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Speaker 1: The Lian Gonzalez Story a production of Futura Studios in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartsmichael Turda podcast network. After Ellen was found

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Speaker 1: at sea, many were watching je Miel, analyzing him, seeing

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Speaker 1: if it sounded like a real father, wondering did he

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Speaker 11: If he really wanted to come to the United States.

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Speaker 4: I think the Cuban government would have done everything they

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Speaker 11: There were questions about whether the father of Elian was

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Speaker 11: truly free, but how can we second guess his own

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Speaker 12: The wan Miguel I interviewed was extremely stressed. You could

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Speaker 12: think his life was his own. After Ellen became the

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Cuba, the question is always about freedom.

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Speaker 1: If you have free will, I wanted to find out

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Speaker 10: I was nervous and excited.

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Speaker 1: We submitted our project to the Cuban government Press office,

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Speaker 1: country where I was born. In Cuba, the government controls

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Speaker 1: the media, and organizations like Reporters Without Borders have documented

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Speaker 1: arbitrary detentions, harassment, illegal rates against Cuban journalists living on

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Speaker 1: FOREI in journalists are accredited selectively, those whose work is

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Speaker 1: Reporters Without Borders quote, Cuba remains the worst country for

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Speaker 1: press freedom in Latin America. After submitting the project, Cuba's

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Speaker 13: I'm working from Grand Central Station.

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Speaker 1: Cheer let me see on that, senior producer Nicole Rothwell.

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Speaker 1: This past summer, we met up in midtown Manhattan on

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Speaker 14: So basically we are going to be here because even

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Speaker 14: before asking Eliam for an interview, we need to ask

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Speaker 1: When you walk into the office, you are met with

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Speaker 1: We were invited into a meeting room with comfy couches

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Speaker 10: We gave our pitch, shared who we were.

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Speaker 1: And that we believed to tell the liand story, we

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Speaker 10: Reach sources in Cuba.

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Speaker 1: That's when we got some exciting news from a fixer

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Speaker 1: in Cuba that Elian and his father Juamiel were open

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Speaker 1: our visa approval, so we kept waiting. Back to two thousand,

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Speaker 1: a week after Juan Miel's Nightline interview, an announcement was

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Speaker 5: Today, the two grandmothers of Ilian Gonzalez flew from Havana

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Speaker 1: Just after landing in New York, the grandmothers gave a

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Speaker 11: Is the.

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Speaker 15: La mam liang.

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Speaker 4: Many people say that was the will of the mother.

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Speaker 16: Denoido avlo, that the son will stay here. Lang I

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Speaker 16: know how she thinks and how they behave Yeah, zebasoue

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Speaker 16: okay then unga posso ramulento ilam and Asara.

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Speaker 1: The grandma alleged that her daughter only came to the

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Speaker 1: to get on the boat. Alien's grandma pleaded to be

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Speaker 16: Eole pidouelo alo.

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Speaker 17: Interested and.

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Speaker 3: You want to help us all about for kil Nino.

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Speaker 16: Aluela paga wela Let's concerin boss.

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth's mom told reporters this more than once, and even

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Speaker 1: before her daughter's tragic death, she had express worry about

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Speaker 10: His mom to risk her life for him.

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Speaker 9: To get liberty, and I hope that this country gives

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Speaker 1: In the US, the grandma's met with Congress members and

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Speaker 1: but just over a week after they landed, they boarded

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Speaker 1: Elian's paternal grandmother, Mariella, made a final plea to the public, saying,

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Speaker 15: He will never be happy.

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Speaker 8: Because he grew up in Cua and Cuba.

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Speaker 13: He's a Cuban boy.

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Speaker 18: He has a father Squadro, he has four grandpa familia,

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Speaker 1: The Grandma's returned to Cuba to a hero's welcome of

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Speaker 10: Father in Cuba.

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Speaker 1: A month after the Grandma's left the United States, the

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Speaker 1: Fidel Castro's own a strange daughter. There is no recording

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Speaker 10: Here is part of what she said to Congress.

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Speaker 18: He knows that his son is in a country of

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Speaker 1: Mary Lesis is talking here about what in Cuba we

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Speaker 1: The shadow makes sure you always watch.

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Speaker 19: What you say.

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Speaker 1: It was not the only time Mary Lacey's assured Miel

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Speaker 1: that in Miami, in the US, he will be safe.

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Speaker 8: I would like to follows to come and take him

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Speaker 8: I put him in good hands.

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Speaker 1: Mary LASiS also told the Senate committee that Jua Miel

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Speaker 1: The rumor was that Juan Miel wanted to come to

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Speaker 10: They didn't like some tweets, so they denied our visas.

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Speaker 10: My tweet said Cuba needs you today.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you don't get what's going on,

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Speaker 10: Years in Yale. It's a big deal. Yes.

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Speaker 1: In this particular tweet, I share my opinion. It came

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Speaker 13: So basically because I tweeted those things, we are prevented

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I have spent most of my

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Speaker 13: I know my people, you know, I know how they work.

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Speaker 4: To go to my own country.

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Speaker 1: Four months after Elean was found at sea, the Miami

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Speaker 1: Juan Miguel Gonzalez is ready at a moment's notice to

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Speaker 1: This is Gregory Craig, Quamiel's attorney, who had also represented

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Speaker 18: He has been ready, willing, and waiting for too many weeks,

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Speaker 10: But with a condition.

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Speaker 1: In the early hours of April sixth, two thousand, Fidel

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome one Michuel Gonzales

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Speaker 10: It was not just the media there.

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Speaker 1: Someone in the crowd yells out, you're free here. Here

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Speaker 1: Son has been subjected to cruel psychological pressures to influence

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Speaker 1: And on top of everything, he added, Elian has been

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Speaker 1: From the video, you can tell that toll this saga

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Speaker 23: I wholeheartedly reject Cuba's system of government. Mister Gonzales and

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Speaker 1: Even when in the US, without Castro looking over his shoulder,

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Speaker 10: An Eilean Wood grew up on the island Cuban.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to go home. Not everybody wants to live

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Speaker 1: Jim Goldman, a special agent with the I Ins who

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Speaker 1: But now even with Jamielle here, they still refused to

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Speaker 1: hand him over the government. So things were escalating.

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Speaker 3: Every day thing to start worse and worse, and worship

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Speaker 3: got darker and deeper.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, the Attorney General and AS Commissioner flew to Miami

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Speaker 3: His relatives did not want him to go home. Call

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Speaker 3: it what you want. Was he being held against as

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Speaker 3: will I don't know. Was he endangered? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: On April twelfth, almost a week after Camille had landed

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Speaker 1: in the US, the Ions instructed Lasarro Gonzalez remember the

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Speaker 1: Great Uncle, to bring Elean to the Opa Loka Airport

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Speaker 1: in Miami at two pm the next day, but he

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Speaker 1: never showed. This is when the government revoked the Miami

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Speaker 1: family's temporary care of Ilian. Remember, dian Areno was the

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Speaker 23: It has been nearly twelve weeks since the Commissioner's decision,

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Speaker 23: four months since Elian was found at sea. It is

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Speaker 23: time for this little boy, who has been through so

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Speaker 23: much to be with his father. The relatives say it

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Speaker 23: would be wrenching to him to take him from the home,

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Speaker 23: but four months is no substitute for six years for

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Speaker 23: a father who had such an important role in raising

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Speaker 23: such a wonderful little boy.

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Speaker 1: The day that Lasar was supposed to bring Elian to

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Speaker 14: Ba Jnai Erica.

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Speaker 1: Eleann is sitting on a bed, presumably in the Miami

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Speaker 1: family home, and someone is recording a home video of

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Speaker 1: him saying, Bapa, I don't want to go to Cuba

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Speaker 1: and you should stay here.

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Speaker 10: I'm not going to Cuba here.

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Speaker 1: After this line, he looks away towards someone of camera,

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Speaker 1: and then the video cuts and edit before he picks up.

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Speaker 10: Again, sahah here you stay to return with.

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Speaker 1: Our Many who took the father's side felt that Eleano

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Speaker 1: was coached in this video that he as a child,

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Speaker 1: was being manipulated by the adults around him to say it.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to remain in the United States, but perhaps

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Speaker 1: what the Miami family had been worried about, that he

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Speaker 1: here in the United States with them. On the same

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Speaker 1: day the video aired, the Florida Family Court reversed his

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Speaker 1: previous ruling and dismissed laceroscostoly request. The odds were stacking

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Speaker 1: up against the Gonzalezes of Miami, and yet they would

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Speaker 23: Instead of discussing how Ilion should be reunited, the attorneys

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Speaker 23: for the relatives continued to demand that we revisit the

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Speaker 23: issue of whether Alion should be reunited. That is not

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Speaker 23: what the law provides.

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Speaker 1: As negotiations stalled, Emiel was in d C without his son.

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Speaker 1: One day, the frustration got to him as he grabbed

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Speaker 1: some air outside the Qban interessection in d C. Protesters

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Speaker 1: yelled to him that he could stay in the US

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Speaker 1: with a lian.

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Speaker 9: Yes, that's yes, not I thing a waniyay? Why how'd

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Speaker 9: I leaving a maday?

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Speaker 1: And he responded raising his middle finger. A brief hit

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Speaker 1: of his more brazen self, and also likely a breaking

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Speaker 1: point for him, because then Elian, who had been in

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Speaker 1: the spotlight twenty four seven, started disappearing from the public view.

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Speaker 3: If my son hadn't been seen for five days, I'd

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Speaker 3: be concerned, and I know mister Gonzales would have been

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Speaker 3: concerned too.

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Speaker 1: Elian's grandmother's visit didn't bring him home to Cuba. His

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Speaker 1: own father coming to the United States didn't bring the

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Speaker 1: Gonzaleses together. The government now believed that only one thing

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Speaker 1: could resolve the standoff at this point, an intervention by

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Speaker 1: force if necessary.

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Speaker 10: That's next week. Chess Piece.

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Speaker 1: written and reported by me Pennilei Ramdez with Maria Garcia,

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Speaker 1: for voicing Marie Lesy Gonzalez for a quote.

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