1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calahan. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: cal A new study published in the journal Scientific Reports 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: has found that dogs can become addicted to their toys 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: in similar ways to people who are addicted to well, 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: the kinds of things people get addicted to. Big thanks 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: to listener Carl Kaufman for bringing this to my attention. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: It actually explains a lot. The study took one hundred 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: and five dogs whose owners described them as motivated to 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: play with toys. They placed the dog's favorite toys in 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: an inaccessible box alongside other things that dogs might want, 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: such as treats or even their owner. Seventy two dogs 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: appeared normal and well adjusted, but thirty three dogs were 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: what you might call toy junkies. They showed a lot 15 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: of interest in food or playing with their owner, and 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: made persistent efforts to access their toy even when it 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: wasn't there. They also didn't calm down. Within fifteen minutes 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: of all toys being removed, two of these dogs actually 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: managed to destroy the box and get to their toys. 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: The study doesn't break down the results by breed, but 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: they do say that working breeds like labs in Belgian 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: malinoa were over represented in the study. If you have 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: a pooch that appears to have an unhealthy relationship with 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: a tennis ball or plush duck, don't worry too much. 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: These addictive behaviors are more akin to our addiction to 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: our smartphones, not like an addiction to hired drugs. It's 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: also true that having a dog that is very motivated 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: to play with a certain toy can be a great 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: training tool. If you're working on a new skill, having 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: playtime with that toy can be a great reward for 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: a job well done. Please note that fuzzy toys like 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: tennis balls can pick up a lot of sand and grit, 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: which will wear down your pupp's teeth. If that is 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: what you're doing has an obsession with, I'd suggest weaning 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: them off onto something a little more healthy. It can 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: be done. Maybe we'll start a little canine version of AA. Hello. 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: My name is snort Ah sort this week snort Report, 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Urban Critters, old school hunting, and so much more. But 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: first I'm gonna tell you about my week. And my 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: week has been great, which is why there is a 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: snort Report as well as a super special announcement. Snort 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: and I are communicating like I imagine a surgical unit, like 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: a brain surgic coal unit, or the folks who like 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: replace hearts, or maybe an elite military unit does We're 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: interpreting each other. There's no shouting, very few whistles. It's 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: eye contact, head nods and hand motions. And boy do 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: the old cockbirds pay for it. Despite a few misses, 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: we flushed a lot of birds in nasty, thorny cover. 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Poor snorts snoop and that dark and bald ear. Not 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: to mention, your eyes are thoroughly hamburger, despite a lot 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: of doctoring on my part. That little girl works so 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: hard for the birds. It is so damn much fun 53 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: to be around, and it hurts so so much to 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: miss an opportunity. Thankfully, I did have my poop and 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: a pile. I shot from the balls of my feet, 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: kept my cheek on the gun, followed through almost every time, 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: only missed two birds in three days if I don't 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: count some houns. That really did surprise me. And I 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: don't think my cheek touched the stock on the first 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: or second shot during that flush. Now I'm hacking up 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: pheasant carcasses and antelope bones for stock and packaging meat 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: for the long winter ahead, which gave me plenty of 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: time to think about how to tell you this next part. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I am the newly announced incoming President and CEO of 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: back Country Hunters and Anglers, which is amazing, and it's 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: amazing thing to say. It's taken a lot of discussions 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: and thought to get here. Old Steven Ranella and I 68 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: talked through this quite a bit and both agreed it's 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: neither an opportunity I should pass up, nor is it 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity I wasn't kind of made for. In a 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: lot of ways, I love our public lands, waters, wildlife. 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I cherish our ability to access them and steward them, 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: and have reaped the benefits from shaping my life around 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: spending time all across America on our public lands and waters, 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: most often in the pursuit of wildlife, be it fish, 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: big game, fowl. I feel more than ever a deep 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: gratitude for my time on America's public lands BLM, Bureau 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: of Wreck, US Fish and Wildlife, US Forest Service WMA, is, refugees, 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: national parks, you name it, and I feel a responsibility 80 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: to not only ensure that they are here for the 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: next generation, but that they are also managed better than 82 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: ever before. As you've heard me say many times on 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: this podcast, we can have our cake and eat it too. 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: We do not ever have to choose between our guns 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: or affordable housing and healthy ecosystems, wildlife connectivity, clean water, 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: abundant wildlife habitat, healthy wildlife habitat, so long as we 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: demand it. Hunters and Anglers are in the hot seat. 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: We know this stuff better than anyone. We know the 89 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: real value of time spent afield, the real value of 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the land that many are trying to discount. We are 91 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: also every single one of us consumers. We like our stuff. 92 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: We can responsibly have it all so long as we 93 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: demand it of ourselves and our politicians from the county 94 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: level through the White House. There are no political divides 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. We need it, we 96 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: are in the right to demand it. Proper management is 97 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: hard work. Nothing comes easy. Hunters and Anglers know that 98 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: if you aren't a member already, I hope you'll join 99 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: me at backhuntry hunters dot org. And don't you fret 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: and Stephen Ranella himself once said, I just can't quit. 101 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to host this here podcast and 102 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: contribute to both the continued conservation efforts and projects across 103 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: Meat Eater and First Light. I think the willingness to 104 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: continue this platform from the meat Eater side is a 105 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: really amazing deal and a commitment to the Meat Eater brands, 106 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: conservation ethos and alignment on hunter's rights, public land, public access, wildlife, 107 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and just good old American freedom. There's a lot more 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: to come. For those of you who don't know, you know. 109 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: I started working with the boys Kent and Scott over 110 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: at First Light and Like the Winner at two thousand 111 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and seven and came on board full time Winner at 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. It was just the three of us and 113 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: that brand. We grew it as organically as any brand 114 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: has ever been built. People would call say, why would 115 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: I pay so much for Marino wool, and by the way, 116 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: what the heck is Marino wool? And we would just 117 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: tell them our stories of working really hard, sometimes being successful, 118 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: a lot of times not being successfu on public land, 119 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: chase an elk during archery season and public lands were 120 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: just an integral part of the creation story of that business. 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: And it was very, very clear that public lands and 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: access to them were the only thing that allowed many, many, 123 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: many of our customers, our consumers to get out a 124 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: field at all. Without public lands and access to them, 125 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: this business doesn't exist. So there's a business side to it, 126 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: and there's a public freedom health side to it that 127 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: we just can't let go. Like I said, more to come, 128 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: super exciting time. I don't start officially till January one, 129 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: so I'm incoming until then, And as always, you can 130 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: write in call let me know what you think about 131 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: all that. Let's jump on over to the city Slicker desk. 132 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: The New York Department of Environmental Conservation is asking Long 133 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Islanders to help them control the deer population as it 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: grows out of control in Nassau and Suffolk Counties. The 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: growing deer population is causing car accidents, eating flowers and vegetables, 136 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: and spreading limes disease. The number of hunters is decreasing 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: as the number of deer are increasing, so the State 138 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Wildlife Agency is offering bonus permits to allow hunters to 139 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: take more than two deer antlerless deer. The deadline to 140 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: apply this year has passed, but if you live on 141 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: Long Island and want to really fill the freezer next year, 142 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for a similar program. Hunters took 143 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: more deer last year than the year before, but even 144 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: with solid participation, it will likely take several years to 145 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: reduce or even stabilize that population. Of course, not all 146 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: New Yorkers thanks shooting and eating deer is the best solution. 147 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: Animal rights activists told the New York Posts that they 148 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: want to see the state adopt non lethal methods like 149 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: birth control, fences, end quote naturally evolved vegetation they won't eat, 150 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: to which I say, why don't we do all of 151 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: the above except for control that's never worked and mostly 152 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: just wasted a bunch of taxpayer money. Because the fact is, 153 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: if New Yorkers won't let hunters harvest these deer and 154 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: turn them into venison, the state is going to send 155 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: in sharpshooters. That's a solution nobody wants, so I say, 156 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: let the Orange Army on Long Island have at it. 157 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Turning to Wyoming, the Cowboys, state is trying to figure 158 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: out how to handle the so called suburban elk problem 159 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: in and around the town of Jackson. These elk are 160 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: attracted to the feeding grounds in the area, but then 161 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: they stick around for much of the year, eating hay 162 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: from fields, pooping on the heated driveways of the well 163 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: to do, and just generally causing a problem. They still 164 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: migrate during the summer, but often much later in the 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: year than their compatriots not so far away do. So 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: wildlife managers have hit on a solution, Judas elk. They 167 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: planned to radio collar some of these suburban servants so 168 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: they can differentiate them from other elk that do what 169 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: they're supposed to do and migrate all the way up 170 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: to Yellowstone National Park. Then they can point hunters in 171 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: the direction of the quote Judas elk during hunting season 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully thin them from the herd before they make 173 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it down to Jackson. Might be a short term solution, 174 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure what will keep other elk from 175 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: taking their place and enjoying all the high dollar comforts 176 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: that Jackson has to offer. I guess we'll see in 177 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the coming years, but if you live in Wyoming, be 178 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: sure to keep an eye out for some extra elk 179 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: hunting opportunities. So obviously, Judas in the biblical story is 180 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: the person who turned on Jesus Christ. Judas has been 181 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: a term in the biological community for a very very 182 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: long time, not as long as the story of Christ, 183 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: of course, But there is an idea that continuing to 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: use this term is not good for the Jewish community, 185 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: because there are some out there that you condemn the 186 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Jews for the act of Judas. I'm not opposed to 187 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: using it myself in the biological because as it is 188 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: purely from my POV about the role of the elk 189 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: in this case, or the snake in the case of 190 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: pythons and the Florida swamps, and the list goes on 191 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: and on right in let me know what you think 192 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: about that. It's an interesting one, as you might tell 193 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: by my stumbling, it's a little out of my depth. 194 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: But moving on to the accident desk, it's a great 195 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: time a year to be outdoors. But that also means 196 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: we've seen an unfortunate uptick in hunting and fishing accidents. 197 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: In Iowa, a seventeen year old high school senior was 198 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: shot and killed after another member of his hunting party 199 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: mistook him for a squirrel. The Iowa d NR reports 200 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: that Carson Ryan was with a group of hunters when 201 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: he got up to move positions. Another hunter mistook that 202 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: movement for a squirrel and fired, striking Ryan in the 203 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: back of the head. Officials haven't released the name of 204 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: the person responsible or indicated whether that person will face charges. 205 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Ryan was an avid hunter and angler, according to his obituary, 206 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: along with being a basketball player, football player, and track athlete. 207 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: His classmates named him Homecoming King just a week after 208 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: his death, and to go fundme was set up that 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: has so far generated nearly sixty thousand dollars. Accidents happen. 210 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Hunting is like the ultimate responsibility sport because when an 211 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: accident happens, something horrific like this can happen. Somebody can 212 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: lose their life. There's no going back and erasing this, 213 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the person responsible will truly never get 214 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: over it. This is a life altering and hopefully not 215 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: life ruining event. But you have to look at these 216 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and learn from them. One thing I know about myself 217 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: self admission here is I am way more likely to 218 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: pull that trigger if I have a round in the 219 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: chamber and my face is on the scope. So if 220 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I am looking at a buck or a bowl or 221 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: a pig or what have you through my scope, and 222 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: I'm like questionable of whether or not I really want 223 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: to take that animal. It is way easier to do 224 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: because I've never put around in the chamber, right, So 225 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm like one of those people that never has around 226 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: in the chamber. I have rounds in the magazine, the 227 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: gun is loaded. There is just not around in the chamber. 228 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: And it gives me another action, or I should say 229 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: three actions to take to run the mental process of 230 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: identifying my target, being absolutely sure, also identifying what is 231 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: beyond my target in case I miss or the bullet 232 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: passes through before I squeeze that trigger. And if this 233 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: is new to you, the actions I'm talking about is 234 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking through the animal, seeing what's beyond it. I'm 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: making sure that is the animal the proper sex or age, 236 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: or it's in the proper position to take a shot. 237 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Then I have to load around into the chamber, which 238 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: is a fast movement. If in that split second the 239 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: situation has changed, I'm putting the safety on, which then 240 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: I have to take that safety off in order to 241 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: squeeze the trigger. And it just gives me more time 242 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: to process. I'll tell you, like if I was running 243 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: around and all I had to do was squeeze the 244 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: trigger or flip the safety off. I see it in 245 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: my shotgun shooting all the time. In the case of 246 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: the huns that I mentioned at the beginning of the show, 247 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew I was not going to hit 248 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: those birds. I knew it. My barrel was behind him 249 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: and lo my head was high following the birds, and 250 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I still squeezed off two shots. Just an example, take 251 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: it or leave it. A Massachusetts man fell to his 252 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: death and Alaska last month after he slipped off a 253 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: cliff while goat hunting. Official say a sixty seven year 254 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: old John de Luca was trying to traverse a hillside 255 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: with his hunting partner when he stumbled. His friend tried 256 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: to grab him and they both fell about one hundred feet, 257 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: but Lucas slid another three hundred to four four hundred 258 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: feet and was unresponsive by the time EMS personnel arrived. 259 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: He was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital. His friend 260 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: suffered serious injuries but is expected to survive. In Idaho, 261 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: two hunters were killed within two days of each other, 262 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: both due to accidents with firearms. Twenty one year old 263 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: kaylawnie Or suffered a gunshot wounded the chest while on 264 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: a hunting trip in a remote area of Fremont County, Idaho. 265 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: Details are still scarce at this time, but local news 266 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: reports that Or was hit when a relative's firearm quote 267 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: accidentally discharged. It's unclear what kind of firearm it was 268 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: or what the circumstances of the accident were. Then, just 269 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: a few days later, forty eight year old Nathan Thomas 270 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Coss was shot in the leg while his hunting partner 271 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: was trying to pull his rifle from the back seat 272 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: of a truck. The bullet from the two seventy win 273 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: struck costs Or cass Kaas in the upper thigh, and 274 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: he died from blood loss at the scene. No charges 275 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: will be filed against the hunting companion, but we haven't 276 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: heard what will happen in Kailanie Orr's case. Another I'm 277 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: not saying it it would have saved the day here, 278 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: but it very well could have. And everybody handles traumatic 279 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: experiences in different ways, but always always have a tourniquit 280 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: with you. I mean, the chances of dragon a bowl 281 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: or a buck downhill and getting an antler through the 282 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: leg are very high. Or somewhere else I've seen that happen. 283 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: Let alone, a gunshot, wound, stop the bleed courses highly 284 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: recommend it, very short course, gruff rough. Anybody can understand them. 285 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Carry a tourniquit with you, practice with it, know how 286 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: to use it. They're very inexpensive. On this last hunt 287 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: out on the Alaska Peninsula, my brown bear hunt, which Gosh, 288 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: I gotta get around to telling you guys all about. 289 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: We had multiple tourniquits all over. We had a paramedic 290 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: as one of the guides, Old Brando. In addition to that, 291 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: my producer Jason Rerigg, who is on the hunt. He 292 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: is is way fresher on his wilderness first responder course 293 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: than I am. An old Joe dirt. Garrett Smith, the 294 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: international man of mystery. He can handle just about anything. 295 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: So know who you're with, communicate where that life saving 296 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: gear is, and make sure people know how to use it. 297 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: Last one for him. A father of four drowned in 298 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: the Mississippi River last month after his boat capsized. Twenty 299 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: eight year old Tyler Tash was fishing with his grandfather 300 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: and younger brother when their boat got too close to 301 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: a waterfall in Monticello, Minnesota. He tried to turn the 302 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: boat around, but it flipped in the current, sending everyone 303 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: into the water. Sixty six year old Mark Tash was 304 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: wearing a life vest, so he managed to make it 305 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to shore. Meanwhile, the younger brother, eighteen year old Tristan Tash, 306 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: thought Tyler was trapped underneath the boat, so he worked 307 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: to write it. But Tyler wasn't under the boat. He'd 308 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: been swept down river, and when he was finally found 309 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: by the staff the nearby Excel Energy power plant, life 310 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: saving measures were ineffective. Tash was married and served as 311 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: a stay at home dad to four kids five to ten. 312 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Tyler's black Pomeranian, Bonnie, also died in the accident. Hunting 313 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: and fishing are generally safe activities, so long as you 314 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: make them so and you demand it out of your 315 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: hunting and fishing partners. These stories are a good reminder 316 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: that things can change in an instant. Sometimes there isn't 317 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: anything you can do. But if you are ever tempted 318 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: to take an unnecessary risk in the back country, just 319 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: remember that you aren't the only one who will suffer 320 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: if something happens to you. Whether you have kids, a girlfriend, 321 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: a dog, or a solid group of friends, keep those 322 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: folks in mind while you're out there, quick trip to 323 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the state legislation desk. Over in Tennessee, the Fish and 324 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: Wildlife Commission is open for public comment on rule making 325 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: for a new law set to go into effect for 326 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season, which legalizes 327 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: hunting for deer over bait. Although biologists from the Tennessee 328 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Wildlife Resource Agency have argued against baiting in the past, 329 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the bill passed in the state legend after a similar 330 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: law passed in nearby Alabama and enjoyed wide public support. 331 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: The rulemaking process will now determine the implementation of the law, 332 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: details like what kind of bait has allowed, how much, 333 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: limitations in special circumstances, and so on. The law allows 334 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: baiting on privately owned and leased land in the state, 335 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: but a dear baiting Privileged license is required fifty dollars 336 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: per residents and one hundred dollars for non residents. Notably, 337 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: even landowners who in Tennessee do not need a hunting 338 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: license to hunt on their own property will need to 339 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: pay for this new baiting permit. This is going to 340 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: bring in a big chunk of change for the volunteer state. 341 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned the similar law that Alabama passed recently. Well fully, 342 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of deer hunters in Alabama paid for 343 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: a baiting permit this year. If that many people buy 344 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: a baiting permit in Tennessee next season, it would bring 345 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: in six and a half million dollars to the TWRA. 346 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Of Course, as always with baiting, the big worried is 347 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: the spread of diseases, most notably nic wasting disease. Deer 348 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: congregate unnaturally around feeding stations, rubnoses together, swap saliva. Those 349 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: nasty little prewonns have an easy time spreading. CWD has 350 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: been found in seventeen of Tennessee's ninety five counties where 351 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: baiting will remain illegal, But if it spreads further and 352 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: knocks back the state's deer population, that means fewer hunters 353 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: in the field and less conservation funding in the long term. However, 354 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: supplemental feeding of wildlife in general has also been long 355 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: legal in Tennessee, so the new deer baiting bill is 356 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: intended to define best practices to reduce problems like spreading 357 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: fungus through certain kinds of bait or unintentionally feeding meso 358 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: predators like raccoons that then impact turkey numbers and oliver 359 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: eppland bird populations, and can also spread diseases of their own. 360 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: As far as baiting bills go, this one has been 361 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: thoroughly and thoughtfully designed, and the law does include a 362 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: provision allowing TWRA to suspend baiting in the case of 363 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: disease outbreak. Of course, when's an outbreak happens, you can't 364 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: put it back in the bottle, and cwdpreons remain on 365 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: the landscape indefinitely, so the way this one is implemented 366 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: really matters. We spoke to Mike Butler and Horace Tipton 367 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Wildlife Foundation who helped shape this bill, 368 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: and they stressed that hunters should keep an eye out 369 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: for education campaigns about the implementation of the law and 370 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: other upcoming issues related to supplemental feeding in the coming year. 371 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: So Tennesseeans go read up on the proposed rules on 372 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: the TWRA website and make your voices heard. Will include 373 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: all the details on the cal to action page of 374 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater website, but listen up. The TFWC will 375 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: host in person hearings at its next meeting on December 376 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: four and five at the Tennessee Aquarium in Chattanooga. The 377 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: online comment period on this extends through November fourteen, and 378 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: the email for that is TWRA dot Rules comments at 379 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: tn dot gov. Be sure to include the words dearbaiting 380 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: rule in the subject line of your email. This is 381 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: going to be a social science effort as to if 382 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: baiting can be done responsibly. Another responsible use experiment. Moving 383 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: on to the true grit desk. We're getting into the 384 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: thick hunting season and sometimes it feels like a hassle 385 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: to get outside while still negotiating all the regular job, 386 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: family and life demands. If you can relate to that, 387 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes I can, this next story will change your attitude. 388 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Randy Swalina is an instructor 389 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: of auto mechanics at Wyoming Technical Institute, specializing in hot rods, 390 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: which is almost definitely the coolest job a person could have. 391 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: In two thousand and two, he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, 392 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: which led to a series of bone implants over the 393 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: next several years, as well as near total hearing loss. 394 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Sfeleina beat the cancer, but after life threatening infection late 395 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: last year, doctors amputated Selena's right leg above the knee. 396 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: But even with the pain of recovery and despite having 397 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: to learn to walk again, Spelena still accompanied his wife 398 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: into the back country near Laramie this season as she 399 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: attempted to fill her antelope tag. Their first outing wasn't 400 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: successful when his crutches made too much noise, so he 401 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: left them behind the next time out and his wife 402 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: got her antelope s Feleina decided to go out by 403 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: himself the following day, crawling much of the way and 404 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: collecting dozens of prairie cactus spikes in his legs as 405 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: a result. After missing his first shot, Speleina bagged a 406 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: buck on the second. In his pictures of the kill, 407 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: his two crutches are laid across the animal along with 408 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: his rifle. Speaking to Cowboy State Daily, he described dressing 409 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: the antelope with a new prosthetic leg as quote a 410 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: wrestling match with knives with rain and lightning coming in. 411 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: Seleina lifted the buck into his truck by himself and 412 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: got underwag just before the storm. But Spealina's resourcefulness and 413 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: grit doesn't stop there. After joking with his doctor that 414 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: he was going to make his prosthetic leg into a 415 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: rifle rest. He started experimenting with bending the knee joint 416 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: of the prosthetic the opposite way, so that the soul 417 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: of the foot formed a horizontal shelf to support the 418 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: gun's for stock. With a little more tweaking, he and 419 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: his doctor think they might actually have a pretty good 420 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: prototype that right there is not just turning lemons into lemonade, 421 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: but turning lemons into like a lemon soux fle and 422 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, lemon crem fresh or something. So stories 423 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: like this should inspire you that all those little things 424 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: staying up all night last night, not getting enough sleep, 425 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: cutting up an antelope in that big of a deal 426 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: for the prices that we pay to do the things 427 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: that we like to do. Drop those kids off at school, 428 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: get those expense reports done, fold all the laundry late 429 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: into the night, with a smile on your face, get 430 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: out in the cold, wet, difficult woods, and enjoy the 431 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: fact that it's not coming easy to get your chosen quarry. 432 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: If Felina can do it, you better believe you can too. 433 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: Moving on to the ancient hunting desk, Satellite images from 434 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: the Andean Highlands of Chile recently revealed seventy six ancient 435 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: stone hunting traps, demonstrating that people in the region depended 436 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: on hunting much later than previously thought. The V shaped traps, 437 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: known as chakas, have two long stone walls called antennae 438 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: that form a funnel running downhill. Hunters chase animals into 439 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: the wide end of the funnel, then move them farther 440 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: down the chute until a drop of several feet deposits 441 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: them into a circular corral where hunters can collect and 442 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: kill them. Before this discovery, chakas were thought to be 443 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: very rare in this region and in the Americas in general. However, 444 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: similar game traps called kites were once very common in 445 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: North Africa, the Middle East, and Western Asia in what's 446 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: now Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan. Until the advent of satellite photography, 447 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: outsiders couldn't even tell the traps were there, but from 448 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: several miles above, they're as clear as day. There's even 449 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: a website that collects all the research and images of 450 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: these traps called Global Kites dot fr. Do yourself favor 451 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: and go check out these photos. They look like crop 452 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: circles from the nineties, but with a very no nonsense 453 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: purpose anyway, The Andians who built these stone traps were 454 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: mostly going after the vicuna, a camelid species. It's a 455 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: wild relative of the alpaca. Bakuna are no doubt good eating, 456 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: but their wool is also some of the most sought 457 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: after in the world, making your cashmir sweater feel like chainmail. 458 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: During the Incan Empire, only the most elite upper classes 459 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 1: were permitted to wear it. Vacuna are also known as 460 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: very capable jumpers, and the Andean chaku traps were built 461 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: with walls as high as six feet, often with natural 462 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: rock features forming one side of the funnel so they 463 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't have to haul all the rocks. Until recently, anthropologists 464 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: believed that settled agriculture had replaced dependence on hunting in 465 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: the Andes by the year six fifty eighty or so, 466 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: but the age and number of these hunting traps suggest 467 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: that native people were still getting a major chunk of 468 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: their calories from hunting through the late seventeen hundreds. Evidence 469 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: like this all over the world is challenging the thesis 470 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: that human societies had a linear history, beginning as hunter 471 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: gatherers and quote unquot quote progressing into agriculture and livestock 472 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: herding and animal husbandry gaining more and more sophistication along 473 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: the way. In many places, people farmed when conditions were right, 474 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: then stopped when they weren't. They tended loose herds while 475 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: still hunting. They remained in place for a while, then 476 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: moved on. Over the course of millennium, and many of 477 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: those cultures who didn't farm extensively still developed extremely sophisticated societies, 478 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: like the Paleolithic people who built massive circular structures of 479 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: mammoth tuss and bones on the Russian steps, or the 480 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: ancient Hopewell culture that left behind enormous earthworks and what's 481 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: now Ohio. And you know this fall when a lot 482 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: of us are freezing our butts off in a tree 483 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: stand for hours on end waiting for a singular deer 484 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: to walk by, even if it's not the one we want, 485 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: just to break up the doldrums, those Andeans with their 486 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: funnel traps catching dozens of wild alpaca at once are 487 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: going to seem very very sophisticated. Indeed, for those of 488 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: you who have ever run through dou Boys Wyoming, be 489 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: sure to check into the sheep music there and you 490 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: can see some funnel traps that folks made here the 491 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: sheep eater people utilized to get some galleries here in 492 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: North America. Super cool. Moving on to the correction desk. 493 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, I told you about a controversy 494 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: in Tennessee about funding the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency. I 495 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: recommended that the volunteer state imitate Missouri, which uses a 496 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: portion of its sales tax to fund their wildlife agency. 497 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: But listener Zach wrote in to point out that the 498 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: fund I mentioned, the park, soils, and Water sales tax, 499 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: actually funds the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. Unlike other states, 500 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: the Missouri DNR doesn't deal with game management. That's the 501 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Missouri Department of Conservation, which is partially funded by the 502 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: design for Conservation Tax, which is one eighth of one 503 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: percent of the state sales tax. That's an important distinction, 504 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: but it also goes to prove my point. Taking a 505 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: small portion of a state's sales tax and putting it 506 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: towards water, soil, habitat and wildlife issues is totally doable. 507 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: Missouri has two separate funds that both pull from the 508 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: sales tax, and they've been popular and successful for decades, 509 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: despite ever since the very beginning. Uh, knuckleheads, you don't 510 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: understand that funding mechanism. Try to steal that money for 511 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: other things. If other states want to make funding wildlife 512 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: conservation in an effective and sustainable way, they might look 513 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: to the show me State for a model. That's all 514 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: I got for you this week. Thank you so much 515 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: for listening. Remember to write in to ask Al that's 516 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: Askcal at the meeteater dot com, or as you hopefully 517 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: know by now, you can call me four oh six 518 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: two two oh six four four one and leave a 519 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: message let me know what's going on in your neck 520 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: of the woods. You know, we appreciate it and we 521 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: depend on you lots. That's happening. Thanks again, we'll talk 522 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: to you next week.