Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: The NBC and CBS pulling has the Democrat Party's fair
Speaker 3: abilities in the twenties. Chuck Schumer is fighting for his
Speaker 3: job here on the hel and they're taking this nothing
Speaker 3: story and trying to blow it out proportion. And every
Speaker 3: time something like this happens, they call on the Republicans
Speaker 3: to resign. But yet we heard nothing on them calling
Speaker 3: on a vegetable that was ruling the country for four
Speaker 3: years to resign.
Speaker 4: Friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
Speaker 4: doing what you got to do for your team. This
Speaker 4: nothing story, it's not a nothing story.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's not watergnal scandal. That's right, it's not Watergate either,
Speaker 4: but it's not a nothing story. And if you haven't
Speaker 4: heard this, so Jeffrey Goldberg, not liking being challenged on
Speaker 4: the whole what were they war plans or not?
Speaker 2: Thing? Has released and was it classified or not?
Speaker 4: Yeah, was released a whole bunch more of the signal
Speaker 4: chat showing that it is absolutely war plans. Now you know, again,
Speaker 4: how long this scandal lasts, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And number one did Mark Wayne Mullen just called the
Speaker 1: former president of vegetable I believe so, Yes.
Speaker 4: It's overstated it somewhat but close and had it Yeah,
Speaker 4: non compassmentus definitely, but not quite a vegetable Anyway.
Speaker 2: Where were we?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yes, So last hour we were criticizing the Trump administrations
Speaker 1: handling of this crisis because they're they're fighting it and
Speaker 1: calling Goldberg a crackpot and saying there was nothing classified.
Speaker 1: It wasn't battle plans. And the more it gets released,
Speaker 1: the more they just they should have said, hey, it
Speaker 1: was a mistake, miscalculation, We've learned from it.
Speaker 2: It will not be repeated.
Speaker 1: Thank you to mister Goldberg for his restraint in not
Speaker 1: publishing the particulars to protect our troops.
Speaker 2: It would have been over over over.
Speaker 4: I wonder if some of this is lawyer stuff where
Speaker 4: we can't admit they were battle plans, because then we
Speaker 4: have committed a crime.
Speaker 2: Wow, and we're in trouble. I'm looking up at CNN.
Speaker 4: They've got more of this and says Intel chiefs testify
Speaker 4: as group chat fallout grows.
Speaker 2: Do you think the group chat fallout is growing still? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Today just because of those details in the Atlantic. I
Speaker 1: mean that again, I don't think would have come out
Speaker 1: most of them if they had just confessed to their
Speaker 1: sins and mistakes and moved on. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a great strike, successful for a good reason, and you
Speaker 1: know it certainly could have endangered our pilots what they
Speaker 1: did and how they did it.
Speaker 2: So, oh my god, really uncool.
Speaker 4: You talk a scandal if somehow because the one dude
Speaker 4: was in Russia while was this going on anyway, if
Speaker 4: they've been able.
Speaker 2: To give it cough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if somehow the Huthi's had gotten tipped off and
Speaker 4: you could connect any dots that it made a difference.
Speaker 2: Wooh, then this would be really a scandal, right.
Speaker 1: I just if you live long enough, friends and a
Speaker 1: lot of you have. You know, sometimes you say I
Speaker 1: screwed up, I'm sorry, it's on me, and.
Speaker 2: That makes things go away in a way. Anyway.
Speaker 1: So we got a little bit of a reaction this
Speaker 1: from uh Paolo. It's clear that stupid concerning mistakes were made.
Speaker 1: Read them, Yeman strikes. Why aren't they trying to spend
Speaker 1: the particulars of the mistakes, and so unconcerned with making
Speaker 1: it clear that they're lying to save face. Even if
Speaker 1: you believe everything they're saying, they still look incompetent. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. Obviously we got this from Kelly and Kansas.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration has already confirmed the signal meeting. Why
Speaker 1: do we need every detail of who's responsible? The Democrats
Speaker 1: have never admitted or taken responsibility for, or been held
Speaker 1: to account for anything. Hillary's private emare tapes in clinton
Speaker 1: sock drawer, Biden's unsecured classified documents, leaders of leakers of
Speaker 1: the Dobbs opinion, open Southern Border, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So Sparris, the fake outrage Democrats, Well, that's politics, fake outrage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Kelly, I want my team to win. As we've
Speaker 1: said before, I often liken it to sports talk. My
Speaker 1: quarter throw quarterback throws three consecutive interceptions. I'm gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: he needs to be more careful. That doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: liked Kamala Harris or that I want the Trump administration
Speaker 1: to fail.
Speaker 2: They just have to do a better job. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if you need to go that far whose team?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: Just let me know. I don't even need to know
Speaker 4: the team. All those things were bad, including this one.
Speaker 2: Right agreed? Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Are they utterly inconsistent hypocrites? Yes, Kelly, Yes, they are
Speaker 1: my friend one hundred percent. So moving along. You know
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Bob Dylan songs. I still haven't
Speaker 1: seen that. Dang Nan old Timothy or Shallomey movie. Dylan movie.
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't. You'll like it? And I thought I
Speaker 2: would hate it. I swear to god it.
Speaker 1: Every time I think of going to a theater, I think, no,
Speaker 1: they showing the Joe Getty story, and I would think
Speaker 1: people talk.
Speaker 2: And they rattle their their rappers and stuff, and now.
Speaker 4: Unknown recordings of childhood athletic heroics they put in a film,
Speaker 4: and you think, nah.
Speaker 1: No, what Getty hero to millions now in theaters? Ah wait,
Speaker 1: let's on Netflix. What keeps you out of the theater?
Speaker 1: I don't know, just the whole experience of getting there
Speaker 1: and driving, parking, waiting and sitting and watching a bunch
Speaker 1: of heads and then somebody's talking.
Speaker 2: It's funny you are with that the way I am
Speaker 2: with flying. I hate flying. I hate it. I'm not
Speaker 2: scared of it or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Just the whole thing, the driving, the parking, the bag,
Speaker 4: the security, just all of it.
Speaker 1: I hate, Yeah, I sympathize anyway.
Speaker 2: So where were we?
Speaker 1: Oh, Bob Dylan, that's right, I'm tempted to tell a story.
Speaker 1: Isn't a side, but I want one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan songs from his Christian phase. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what album might have been, Slow Trained Coming Is, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's on Infidels, I don't know is Man of Peace,
Speaker 1: and the key line in it is sometimes Satan comes
Speaker 1: as a man of peace.
Speaker 2: Did you know this?
Speaker 4: Bob Dylan born a Jew, living a Jew all of
Speaker 4: a sudden in the mid seventies. It happened in Albuquerque.
Speaker 4: I think I was reading about this the other day
Speaker 4: in a hotel room. He gets struck by the by
Speaker 4: Jesus and he goes full hundred percent Christian for quite
Speaker 4: a few years.
Speaker 2: You got to save somebody.
Speaker 1: It may be the devil and it may be the Lord,
Speaker 1: but you kind of have to save something.
Speaker 4: You might be the heavyweight champion of the world. You
Speaker 4: gotta serve somebody, that's right. Anyway, Sometimes Satan comes as
Speaker 4: a man of peace. Sometimes Satan comes as a protector
Speaker 4: of children. And I speak of the teachers' unions suing
Speaker 4: the Trump administration this week for trying to a ball
Speaker 4: the Education Department, which is not a surprise because the
Speaker 4: Department of Education, as we've been detailing in the recent days,
Speaker 4: was created at the behest of the teachers unions by
Speaker 4: Jimmy Carter, who knew at the time it was a
Speaker 4: bad idea. He said, so Democratic Congress people we've quoted
Speaker 4: saying this is not a good idea.
Speaker 1: And the Department of Education has mainly served to advance
Speaker 1: the agenda of the teachers union for more spending and
Speaker 1: less accountability through the years. They are perhaps have been
Speaker 1: formed with honest aims of protecting teachers and making sure
Speaker 1: teachers are paid adequately and not fired arbitrarily. I get that,
Speaker 1: but they have absolutely become what Bob Dylan was talking about.
Speaker 1: They have become a force for evil, and they would
Speaker 1: feed children into the wood chipper, perhaps not literally, but
Speaker 1: damn close to profit. I speak of Randy Weingarten, not
Speaker 1: your data day teachers, many of whom are very very
Speaker 1: good people, but the unions have become unspeakably evil.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know how it works.
Speaker 1: So among the chief duties of the Education Department is
Speaker 1: to dole out federal money, which is somewhere around ten
Speaker 1: percent of all education spunding funding. Rather spending funding spunding,
Speaker 1: I combine them. Ninety percent is state and local government.
Speaker 1: But as ms McMahon, Linda McMahon, who's running and soon shutting,
Speaker 1: I hope the Education Department points out, quote, a lot
Speaker 1: of the funding that goes into the states now goes
Speaker 1: with a lot of red tape, a lot of strings
Speaker 1: attached to it. And the Trump administration, and I want
Speaker 1: you to hear this loud and clear. If you have
Speaker 1: heard the local Teachers Union, which represents probably some of
Speaker 1: your friends and neighbors, say, welssa's going to yank the
Speaker 1: money away from the special needs kids and the poorer kids.
Speaker 1: You're going to have poor legless children starving because they
Speaker 1: can't get lunch at school sort of thing. Here's the
Speaker 1: evil aim of the Trump administration. They want to make
Speaker 1: sure that quote the funding continues, but that the states
Speaker 1: are allowed to spend the money where they need to
Speaker 1: spend it, instead of where the federal government says they
Speaker 1: must spend now the federal government which is dancing to
Speaker 1: the tune of the teachers' unions.
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard this. This is not being covered well.
Speaker 1: And you know what's really interesting, this is some great perspective.
Speaker 1: The bigger problem may be that the federal funding program
Speaker 1: for disadvantage students has a near perfect record of being
Speaker 1: ineffective in improving outcomes. It is absolutely shoving money down
Speaker 1: a rat.
Speaker 2: Hole whatever that means. What hole in nineteen sixty six?
Speaker 2: Rat hole? Rat hole?
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty six, a year after Title one was
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the history. It's federal
Speaker 1: funding of education was created. A frustrated Robert F. Kennedy,
Speaker 1: not the new super tanned buff one with the weird voice,
Speaker 1: the old or the original the og exclaimed, what happened
Speaker 1: to the children? Do you mean you spent a billion
Speaker 1: dollars and you don't know whether they can read or not?
Speaker 1: Thirty five years later, Rod Page, you served under George
Speaker 1: W echoed that sentiment. Quote after spending one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five billion dollars of Title I money over twenty
Speaker 1: five years, we have virtually nothing to show for it.
Speaker 2: It' sect the War on poverty a similar situation.
Speaker 1: He's spent gazillions of dollars and haven't moved the needle
Speaker 1: poverty one. So as guardians of the status quo, quoting
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, Now, teachers' unions want the government
Speaker 1: to force children into the school's union's control, and the
Speaker 1: Education Department is currently constituted helps him advance that agenda.
Speaker 1: The money continues to flow with little or no accounting
Speaker 1: whether it's being used responsibly, let alone effectively. Before you
Speaker 1: buy the argument that mister Trump's effort to eliminate the
Speaker 1: Education Department will be detrimental to students, you need to
Speaker 1: buy the argument that.
Speaker 2: The department's creation.
Speaker 1: Had anything to do with improving student outcomes.
Speaker 2: That's a hard sell.
Speaker 1: As usual, teachers' unions are acting in their own interests
Speaker 1: while pretending to act in the interests of students and families.
Speaker 2: It's highly frustrating.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Satan comes as a teachers union representative.
Speaker 2: End of screed.
Speaker 4: So my new favorite band name is Belgrade Sound Cannon.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why that is coming up, among other things,
Speaker 4: stay tuned, Armstrong.
Speaker 2: And these are not savings, they're schemes.
Speaker 5: I would just buying toy paper the other day, and
Speaker 5: it was a five dollars discount if you had the
Speaker 5: digital coupon. Now, to get that coupon, I had to
Speaker 5: first download an app for Vaughan's. Then I had to
Speaker 5: sign up for an account. Then I had to scan
Speaker 5: the proper code to get the digital coupon, And once
Speaker 5: I was at the cash register, she had to manipulate
Speaker 5: my phone to figure out where the barcode was.
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Ah okay, that's what they're talking about. I've been in
Speaker 4: line behind people this with it slows down the line.
Speaker 4: San Diego who first city to ban these digital lonely coupons,
Speaker 4: which that guy there says a scam. I would never
Speaker 4: I've never done that. If you're gonna make me like
Speaker 4: make an account and sign up, I just know I'm
Speaker 4: getting stolen from.
Speaker 2: So San Diego is banning them.
Speaker 1: Why you can't ban that as a city and business
Speaker 1: can do what it wants if it says, look, you
Speaker 1: jump off through all these hoops, we'll give you five
Speaker 1: bucks on your toilet off your toilet paper.
Speaker 4: If you're willing to let us steal all your personal information,
Speaker 4: we'll give you five bucks off. But that's a deal
Speaker 4: you make with all kinds of websites. I feel like
Speaker 4: I do like long, I feel like I do like
Speaker 4: one a day. Right, sound for another thing with another password,
Speaker 4: and make the trade off of there's benefits to this
Speaker 4: versus I know what the downsides are. NET sure a
Speaker 4: bunch of emails from companies I've never heard of.
Speaker 1: Now, Well, and the nice lady there on Fox five
Speaker 1: in San Diego. Her tone of voice implied that, well,
Speaker 1: every American deserves that five dollars off, and I demand
Speaker 1: the right to not have to do that stuff for
Speaker 1: my five dollars off.
Speaker 2: No, it's a quid pro quo.
Speaker 1: They want access to you to promote their grocery store,
Speaker 1: and in return for you giving them that means they're
Speaker 1: giving you five bucks off on your toilet paper. That's
Speaker 1: the oh Man meddlesome America. Now, now we're gonna outlaw
Speaker 1: that because I don't like it. Then we're kind of
Speaker 1: outlawed that because I.
Speaker 2: Don't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I got a couple of stories for you
Speaker 4: that don't need a whole bunch of time. Each Serbian
Speaker 4: sound cannons. I like the sound of that better than Belgrade.
Speaker 4: Belgrade in Serbia, Serbian sound Belgrade but whatever, Okay, Bellground said,
Speaker 4: what happened to vaguely European.
Speaker 2: It's got sound in it. Cannon implies power, So.
Speaker 4: We won't get into the politics of Serbia. But they
Speaker 4: got problem the president. Big protest they think is corrupt,
Speaker 4: trying to drive them out office. That had huge, just
Speaker 4: absolutely huge demonstrations. Well thousands and thousands were gathered in
Speaker 4: Belgrade the other day to protest the president. Then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, something I've seen the video, something caused
Speaker 4: the crowd to like part and run away, and you
Speaker 4: can't really hear anything or seeing anything. And there are
Speaker 4: kinds of reports that the government used one of those
Speaker 4: weird sound wave things that maybe you've seen demonstrated online.
Speaker 4: Sixty Minutes had it years ago where they showed it
Speaker 4: like the Havana syndrome thing. I don't think so, it's
Speaker 4: I remember when sixty Minutes demonstrated. It's like a it's
Speaker 4: like a wave of sound.
Speaker 2: That was heat.
Speaker 4: But it's it's sure, yeah, it's just it's a sound
Speaker 4: might be the wrong way to describe it. You hear something,
Speaker 4: but that's not what makes you run away. You hear
Speaker 4: loud noises all the time don't make you run.
Speaker 1: And this is energy. It's some sort of energy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes you freak out and run away.
Speaker 4: This woman had never heard anything quite so alarming and
Speaker 4: disturbing in a protest as a sound that broke a
Speaker 4: commemorative silence during a huge anti government rally in Serbia's capital, Belgrade,
Speaker 4: it was quiet and peace well, and then we heard
Speaker 4: something we could not see, like a sound rolling Towrdoise.
Speaker 4: People started rushing for safety toward the payment, feeling that
Speaker 4: something was moving towardoise down the street. Wow, so that's
Speaker 4: not just a sound. The perception that something's moving toward
Speaker 4: you down the street wouldn't just be a sound. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of really really loud.
Speaker 1: Sounds in my life, and you instinctively find it menacing.
Speaker 4: Hundreds of others offered similar accounts, triggering accusations at the police, military,
Speaker 4: or security services. Or somebody used an acoustic crowd control
Speaker 4: weapon to target peaceful protesters. These weapons are illegal in
Speaker 4: Serbia in most places. Well, they're illegal until you decide
Speaker 4: you need to use them. We'll probably use them on
Speaker 4: the battlefield, you know, against the Chinese. Someday and them
Speaker 4: some weapon against us that we've never heard of anyway.
Speaker 4: They can trigger sharp ear pain, disorientation, ear drum ruptures,
Speaker 4: even irreversible hearing damage.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 4: And the president is denying it, saying if I use
Speaker 4: something like that, I'd be driven out of office immediately. Okay,
Speaker 4: Well that's what they're trying to do, is drive you
Speaker 4: out office. Yeah huh right, said the protesters. I find
Speaker 4: this interesting, Serbius. Police and government deny possessing the US
Speaker 4: made long range acoustic device l RAD when presented with
Speaker 4: photo blah blah blah blah blah. So they might have
Speaker 4: had this thing that we invented, and then one.
Speaker 1: Other the drones and this and the laser beams and microwaves.
Speaker 4: Well, the next war is going to be You'll constantly
Speaker 4: in the next big war, you'll constantly be reading about
Speaker 4: weapons you didn't even know existed. How much time I got,
Speaker 4: Michael Oh wanted to jam this in. Okay, got another
Speaker 4: unpleasant story. Probably doesn't need much time. Former NFL running
Speaker 4: back just busted in a dog fighting ring.
Speaker 2: Thing. One hundred and ninety pit bulls uh seized.
Speaker 4: It's the biggest single bust of dog fighting in American
Speaker 4: history against one guy. Horrifying detail that I won't get into.
Speaker 4: But what is it with NFL players and dog fighting?
Speaker 2: Who's the dude?
Speaker 4: I'd never heard of him? He played six years in
Speaker 4: the NFL with a bunch of different teams. Lashawn Johnson,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wow, crutal.
Speaker 2: I'd say armstrong and getty.
Speaker 4: I tended to get sidetracked by our last story that
Speaker 4: he did wrote before the commercial break, but just so ahead,
Speaker 4: just say this underappreciated cultural differences among different segments of society.
Speaker 4: They busted this dog fighting ring. Former NFL player he
Speaker 4: had one hundred and ninety dog whose biggest single dog
Speaker 4: fighting bust in US history? But just I mean, how
Speaker 4: many people had to be involved in the running of that,
Speaker 4: and then how many people are involved to make it
Speaker 4: worthwhile to have one hundred ninety dogs? I mean, there's
Speaker 4: gotta be thousands and thousands and thousands of people that
Speaker 4: are participating and attending and betting on for that to exist.
Speaker 1: Has to be quite a few people. Anyway, I don't
Speaker 1: know that it needs to be that many, but well,
Speaker 1: certainly hundreds and hundreds it have to be. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be beneficial.
Speaker 4: And who do you know that wouldn't just be absolutely
Speaker 4: shookingly horrified if they had to watch something like that,
Speaker 4: let alone enthusiastically participate.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you talk about a cultural difference.
Speaker 4: I know, I know way more people that would cry
Speaker 4: hearing this story than I've ever known that would enjoy watching.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the most useful and simple explanation of culture.
Speaker 1: Explanations of culture I've ever come across. Who the heck
Speaker 1: wrote this name will pop it into my head. Culture
Speaker 1: is how we do things around here. It's as simple
Speaker 1: and complicated as that. What's a husband's relationship with his
Speaker 1: wife in our culture? What's our relationship with a police officer?
Speaker 1: That's our relationship with the government. How do we treat
Speaker 1: each other when we pass a a stranger? How about
Speaker 1: a friend? How does one religious denomination interact with the other?
Speaker 1: That's all culture. Do you pet your dog and you
Speaker 1: love dogs and you like donate to rescue operations? Or
Speaker 1: do you have animals fight each other to the death
Speaker 1: for your entertainment and gambling?
Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious cultural difference.
Speaker 4: I gotta believe I don't know this, but I would
Speaker 4: assume that the crowd that can watch dog fights is
Speaker 4: also more okay with like domestic violence and violence in general. Shure,
Speaker 4: non kids or what I gotta be, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah? I think so. Oh that's horrible anyway.
Speaker 1: There are very few cultures around the world that have
Speaker 1: horrifyingly violent entertainment of this sort that.
Speaker 2: Aren't more violent just in general.
Speaker 1: Right anyway, speaking of violence and horror, I know what
Speaker 1: you're thinking, same thing I've been thinking forever. When are
Speaker 1: we going to get like a horror movie version of
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse? Okay, nobody's ever thought that, but Michael, I
Speaker 1: guess apparently there's something like that out these days. Set
Speaker 1: sail for an adventure like no other meat Steamboat Willie.
Speaker 2: He's wacky, he's wicked, and he's whistling his way into
Speaker 2: your heart. Literally, O d.
Speaker 3: All aboard the Staton iveand ferry.
Speaker 2: They're all going to die when their dream voyage turns
Speaker 2: into a nightmare. This is no fairy tam please please
Speaker 2: Steamer Screamboat. Screamboat.
Speaker 4: So if you're not familiar, Mickey Mouse originally was Steamboat
Speaker 4: Willie nineteen twenty eight. I just looked it up almost
Speaker 4: one hundred years ago. The first Disney cartoon with Mickey Mouse,
Speaker 4: and they're calling it scream boat Michael.
Speaker 2: Is that a parody because the voiceover doesn't fit with
Speaker 2: like an actual attempt to And.
Speaker 1: They're going to get sued for using steamboat Willy in
Speaker 1: their advertisement.
Speaker 4: It might be public domain at this point, it's almost
Speaker 4: one hundred years old.
Speaker 2: It's not a parody.
Speaker 6: They're and they're calling him screamboat Willie.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the stuff that becomes at the
Speaker 4: first of the year. I always think this list is
Speaker 4: interesting stuff that becomes public domain, and it's different limits
Speaker 4: for different things, but like songs, books, poems, videos, that's
Speaker 4: the rules we have in the United States. After a
Speaker 4: certain amount of time, it's just out there and anybody
Speaker 4: can use it for whatever they want to.
Speaker 2: Use it for. It's an interesting idea. Well, some people
Speaker 2: are against it, some people are for it.
Speaker 6: And the director of this is actually a pretty great
Speaker 6: horror director. He did the Terrifier series, which if you're
Speaker 6: a horror fan.
Speaker 2: You could have made that up. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: I don't have the horror fans. No, I'm not making
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 6: It's a great it's a it's a series of horror
Speaker 6: movies and they're fantastic.
Speaker 1: Huh, okay, you could bond with my son.
Speaker 2: He's crazy into that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Encyclopediachnology writes, like serious treatises on those series and what
Speaker 1: they mean, and ei they're effective and it's crazy anyway,
Speaker 1: So moving along, at least somewhat thought this was interesting.
Speaker 1: Joanna Stern writes a popular tech column and her headline
Speaker 1: is I quit Google Search for AI and I'm not
Speaker 1: going back. Oh wow, I love this, And obviously she
Speaker 1: goes into how ads and search optimized junkies made a
Speaker 1: mess of Google.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: Like last night I was, I Googled a particular car dealer,
Speaker 4: like the name of it, and I get eight other
Speaker 4: options first, right, Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That's not what Google used to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she goes into, you know, the history of
Speaker 1: it and how it got kind of gummed up in
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think we're all fairly familiar
Speaker 1: with that. At she says, with AI chatbots, it's really
Speaker 1: like having that personal search Butler Chat, GPT, Microsoft Copilot
Speaker 1: and Perplexity have real time web access, generating responses with
Speaker 1: citations to external websites.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Last week Anthropics Claude joined the club and Google's testing
Speaker 1: in AI mode built into search.
Speaker 4: Woway, I need a smart person. Maybe I'll ask U
Speaker 4: my sitter house sitter. They're good with tech. I need
Speaker 4: somebody to walk through how I get this on my
Speaker 4: phone so I can use it. I absolutely would use
Speaker 4: this instead of Google. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's actually fairly easy because they have apps
Speaker 1: in the app Store.
Speaker 2: But when is AI better? She says, I try to
Speaker 2: list all the places.
Speaker 1: AI search beats old school search, shopping, people recipes, how tos,
Speaker 1: movie recommendations, places to stream a recommended movie. The rundown
Speaker 1: was longer than a CVS receipt, she said, that's long.
Speaker 2: Oh so instance, who's streaming this movie?
Speaker 4: Google's only going to give you the places that paid
Speaker 4: them to be at the top of the list. There
Speaker 4: might be other places that are cheaper or free.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, sure it doesn't sprize.
Speaker 1: It is AI search the death of the Blue Links.
Speaker 2: I'd say it's more a makeover than funeral. She writes.
Speaker 1: Yes, these bots spar us from the click through marathons,
Speaker 1: but if they are good at grabbing useful information from
Speaker 1: the web, you'll get links you actually want to click.
Speaker 1: For instance, I asked all of the chatbots the same
Speaker 1: crucial parenting question, what three D printer under five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars should I buy my seven year old?
Speaker 2: And the results were very, very useful.
Speaker 1: Without a bunch of gummed up sales crap. Old school
Speaker 1: Google search was exactly what you'd expect, sponsored links, promoted products,
Speaker 1: links to best buy Amazon, YouTube videos, took several clicks
Speaker 1: to even get a baseline of credible options. And if
Speaker 1: you think I'm picking on Google bing was just as bad.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the free market at worked.
Speaker 4: This is similar to the conversation we had last hour
Speaker 4: about the whole coupon thing that you were rent and
Speaker 4: raving about.
Speaker 2: This is fine. You know Google did that. They went
Speaker 2: too far.
Speaker 4: They have practically killed the golden goose, I think, and
Speaker 4: it's going to drive a lot of us to try
Speaker 4: something else, and then they'll probably have to back off
Speaker 4: their sponsorships if they want to keep people around.
Speaker 1: Oh, I needed to read a sentence and make a confession.
Speaker 1: For some searches like when is the first day of
Speaker 1: spring or the airtime of the Severance finale, the first
Speaker 1: answer is all I need. I was griping, I think
Speaker 1: it was yesterday about how I was watching Severance and
Speaker 1: it seemed to have a story arc that might continue forever.
Speaker 2: Well, I could have.
Speaker 1: Just Googled it or aied it or something and realized that,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, the season, the end of season two
Speaker 1: is the end of the series, and the finale's going
Speaker 1: to air tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh it was decisive, It was.
Speaker 1: Wild, satisfying, great sci fi ish twist. No spoilers here,
Speaker 1: but I apologize for questioning the creative geniuses behind the
Speaker 1: behind this.
Speaker 4: They're in a booth at a pizza place and it
Speaker 4: just goes black and a journey song starts.
Speaker 1: Oh you saw it anyway, So that's up with AI?
Speaker 1: When is Google better? And she writes, here's an easier
Speaker 1: list to draw. What Google Search is still good for
Speaker 1: for starters? Links to any web page you already know exists,
Speaker 1: Adam Scott's IMDb page.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Adam Scott is.
Speaker 1: Bob from Accounting's linked in a story you vaguely remember
Speaker 1: calling Bluie a juggernaut. Google's still your go, Tom. And
Speaker 1: while AI tools can recommend local restaurants and shopping, Google
Speaker 1: still excels at showing you accurate maps, addresses, and hours.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, huh, I do think Google. I'll get used
Speaker 2: to this as it comes on.
Speaker 4: Google pushed it too far and they're gonna have to
Speaker 4: pare it back if they don't want to lose everybody
Speaker 4: to to something else.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, now and smartly, Google has its own AI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they get either way, they get you.
Speaker 4: Theoretically, Amazon has gone too far too But there's no
Speaker 4: competition for Amazon, which is what some people are arguing
Speaker 4: it's a monopoly or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But man, you search on some specific thing and you
Speaker 4: get nineteen other.
Speaker 1: Choices first, or your first twenty seven links are sponsored,
Speaker 1: and you know, okay, there it is for less per
Speaker 1: item with free shipping four pages in. Yeah, it's gotten
Speaker 1: a little obnoxious than come on, Jeff, Jeff Zebasos.
Speaker 4: Nobody had comments on the fact that the world's first
Speaker 4: of all, how many times do I ever hear Elon
Speaker 4: Musk's name without World's richest man attached to it in
Speaker 4: the news?
Speaker 2: No, I don't, and talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk, the World's richest man, thinks we need to
Speaker 4: cut back social security checks. It's either a good idea
Speaker 4: or not. His personal wealth has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He ought to give away a couple hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 4: So he's the world second richest man, because if you're
Speaker 4: the world second richest man, you can do whatever the
Speaker 4: hell you want Beizo seems to care mostly about looking
Speaker 4: cool and yachts and hot chicks and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: He gets knocked never for being the world's second richest man.
Speaker 2: Right right.
Speaker 1: He's tried to reform the Washington Post at least a
Speaker 1: little bit, which is going to fail, but I appreciate
Speaker 1: the effort. Oh. Speaking of which, we got an email
Speaker 1: from a guy the other day. I wish I could
Speaker 1: give him credit. I don't remember the name, but pointing
Speaker 1: out that, all right, you hear twenty times a day.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is the world's richest man. But MBS in
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia has multiples of Elon's money, multiples. Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: is believed to be, if not the richest man on earth,
Speaker 1: among the richest men on earth. So Elon is the
Speaker 1: richest guy whose income and wealth is disclosed earned.
Speaker 4: That's what I go with, and that's why we'll continue
Speaker 4: to call him the world richest man. While that is
Speaker 4: technically true and interesting, I'm giving no credit to people
Speaker 4: who are thugs and thieves.
Speaker 2: All right, the world's my most financially successful man would
Speaker 2: be yeah, one way to put it, you know, and
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 4: I think he'd have to give away like I haven't
Speaker 4: looked recently. I'll look it up, but like three hundred
Speaker 4: billion dollars to drop the second place. He has really
Speaker 4: got a lot of money. He's likely, he's only fifty
Speaker 4: two or something. He's likely to become the first trillionaire.
Speaker 4: Weighty hits a trillion, you know how people like round numbers.
Speaker 2: Oh, that'll really be a big deal. Then he's super evil.
Speaker 1: A trillionaire is trying to cut your government services.
Speaker 4: Right. I was listening to MSNBC this morning. They said,
Speaker 4: do you think Elon Musk, the world's richest man, has
Speaker 4: any idea what it's like for a grandmother's three hundred
Speaker 4: dollars social security check to matter?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, unless I'm also poor, I can't imagine it'd
Speaker 4: be impossible. Right, we'll finish. No, we're not done yet.
Speaker 4: I almost thought we were done.
Speaker 2: How do you like that?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like when you wake up and you think
Speaker 4: it's Saturday and it turns out it's Tuesday. No more
Speaker 4: of the waste to hear.
Speaker 7: So the task force is going to bring together all
Speaker 7: of the cases in attacks against Tesla facilities, vehicles for
Speaker 7: charging stations across the country. So that'll be FBI agents
Speaker 7: working with ATF agents. Now ATF has the premier lab
Speaker 7: when it comes to solving ARSON cases in the country,
Speaker 7: along with intelligence analysts, to develop a unified case intake
Speaker 7: system so that they can track the cases and use
Speaker 7: those intelligence analysts and investigators to find out is there
Speaker 7: a connection between the attacks, the attackers, or any particular network,
Speaker 7: and to make sure that they are gathering evidence and
Speaker 7: driving towards prosecutions.
Speaker 4: You can't claim CNN, for instance, isn't taking the attacks
Speaker 4: on Tesla seriously because they've been going pretty big on it.
Speaker 4: It's domestic terrors and it should get a lot of attention.
Speaker 4: And we let this slide, you know, the other side
Speaker 4: will do it or other causes and it'll just grow
Speaker 4: and grow and wrong and it will be happening all
Speaker 4: the time. Absolutely undeniable. Yep, this stat yesterday bothered me.
Speaker 4: Consumer confidence index was down seven point two points, biggest
Speaker 4: drop in three years. So or go back to twenty one,
Speaker 4: so that's four years middle of the pandemic. So didn't
Speaker 4: like seeing that several months in a row.
Speaker 2: Two? Yeah, what's that based on the whole tar thing?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and people have maxed out credit cards.
Speaker 2: Uh, defaults are on their eyes.
Speaker 1: There are just savings are at a low since you
Speaker 1: know several years ago. There are just a number of
Speaker 1: not so great indicators.
Speaker 4: Colorado, their state houses agreed to remove the quote bad
Speaker 4: painting of Trump after he complained about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I think about this painting.
Speaker 1: Painting deliberately painted to make him look fatter.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be it looks like a fat little baby.
Speaker 4: But was that the person's best effort or you think
Speaker 4: it was delivered? First of all, I'm amazed that anybody
Speaker 4: can ever sketch or paint someone and make it look
Speaker 4: enough like them that you would know what was them.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just stunning to me. Stunning.
Speaker 4: But if you're walking through that Hall of the Presidents,
Speaker 4: there's not one person that would say, who's that?
Speaker 2: You know it's Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: It's just an odd painting of him, and I just
Speaker 4: think of lots of paintings I've seen, or that MLK.
Speaker 2: Memorial they've got in Washington, d C. It doesn't Oh,
Speaker 2: is that who that is?
Speaker 4: It doesn't look anything like MLKA that If you told
Speaker 4: me who's this, I wouldn't have been able to guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, And that wasn't on purpose to make MLK look bad.
Speaker 4: It just was an artist rendering that didn't go. Oh well,
Speaker 4: right anyway, I don't think Trump's out of line to say,
Speaker 4: can I get one that's not quite so roundheaded?
Speaker 1: He really looks like a fat toddler Trump. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of that big Trump and a diaper that was
Speaker 1: popular in Europe there for a while.
Speaker 2: Oh right, a big balloon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, Can I throw in one more quick note on
Speaker 1: the AI thing we were talking about a minute or
Speaker 1: two ago. The journalist points out that while I'm in
Speaker 1: favor of shifting the stale search paradigm, I do have
Speaker 1: AI reservations. These systems hoover up answers from the Internet,
Speaker 1: but rarely push you to the original source. Your trusted
Speaker 1: sources of information, like her publication in the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 1: stand to lose visibility, subscribers, and traffic. If too many
Speaker 1: online platforms suffer, will end up losing the open web
Speaker 1: in exchange for one big answer machine with zero citations
Speaker 1: or accountability.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: And you said you're going to sign up for some
Speaker 4: AI and start dabbling. I think that great. I've been
Speaker 4: promising to do it, but I haven't. I've let the
Speaker 4: show down. I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1: Yes, again, mostly for search purposes. I love the idea
Speaker 1: of like playing around with image creation or video creation
Speaker 1: with the prompts, or music creation, I suppose, but honestly
Speaker 1: I should at least spend a day on it or something.
Speaker 1: I would rather make real music or watch the birds
Speaker 1: flying back and forth or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need writing do that, but I would
Speaker 4: love to get into spend more time with various AI chatbots,
Speaker 4: you know, asking it questions about historical facts or whatever,
Speaker 4: and just seeing kind of answers. Again, I'm pretty interested
Speaker 4: in that, and I certainly read about it A lot
Speaker 4: came across the shoesh today. I'm going to throw it out.
Speaker 4: One of those sayings you see every now and then.
Speaker 2: I really liked this.
Speaker 4: If you're worried about the cost of going for it,
Speaker 4: you should see the price of staying exactly where you are.
Speaker 2: Mm I like it. I thought that was fantastic, Speaking of.
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