1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: The NBC and CBS pulling has the Democrat Party's fair 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 3: abilities in the twenties. Chuck Schumer is fighting for his 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: job here on the hel and they're taking this nothing 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: story and trying to blow it out proportion. And every 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: time something like this happens, they call on the Republicans 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: to resign. But yet we heard nothing on them calling 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: on a vegetable that was ruling the country for four 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: years to resign. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: Friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: doing what you got to do for your team. This 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: nothing story, it's not a nothing story. 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: It's not watergnal scandal. That's right, it's not Watergate either, 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: but it's not a nothing story. And if you haven't 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: heard this, so Jeffrey Goldberg, not liking being challenged on 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: the whole what were they war plans or not? 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Thing? Has released and was it classified or not? 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, was released a whole bunch more of the signal 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 4: chat showing that it is absolutely war plans. Now you know, again, 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: how long this scandal lasts, I don't know. 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: And number one did Mark Wayne Mullen just called the 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: former president of vegetable I believe so, Yes. 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: It's overstated it somewhat but close and had it Yeah, 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: non compassmentus definitely, but not quite a vegetable Anyway. 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Where were we? 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: Ah? 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So last hour we were criticizing the Trump administrations 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: handling of this crisis because they're they're fighting it and 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: calling Goldberg a crackpot and saying there was nothing classified. 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't battle plans. And the more it gets released, 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the more they just they should have said, hey, it 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: was a mistake, miscalculation, We've learned from it. 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: It will not be repeated. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Thank you to mister Goldberg for his restraint in not 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: publishing the particulars to protect our troops. 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: It would have been over over over. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: I wonder if some of this is lawyer stuff where 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: we can't admit they were battle plans, because then we 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: have committed a crime. 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: Wow, and we're in trouble. I'm looking up at CNN. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 4: They've got more of this and says Intel chiefs testify 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: as group chat fallout grows. 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: Do you think the group chat fallout is growing still? Uh? Yeah, 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: it is. 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Today just because of those details in the Atlantic. I 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: mean that again, I don't think would have come out 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: most of them if they had just confessed to their 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: sins and mistakes and moved on. I mean, it was 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: a great strike, successful for a good reason, and you 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: know it certainly could have endangered our pilots what they 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: did and how they did it. 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: So, oh my god, really uncool. 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: You talk a scandal if somehow because the one dude 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: was in Russia while was this going on anyway, if 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: they've been able. 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: To give it cough. 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, if somehow the Huthi's had gotten tipped off and 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: you could connect any dots that it made a difference. 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Wooh, then this would be really a scandal, right. 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: I just if you live long enough, friends and a 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of you have. You know, sometimes you say I 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: screwed up, I'm sorry, it's on me, and. 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: That makes things go away in a way. Anyway. 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: So we got a little bit of a reaction this 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: from uh Paolo. It's clear that stupid concerning mistakes were made. 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Read them, Yeman strikes. Why aren't they trying to spend 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the particulars of the mistakes, and so unconcerned with making 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: it clear that they're lying to save face. Even if 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: you believe everything they're saying, they still look incompetent. Uh yeah, 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: I agree. Obviously we got this from Kelly and Kansas. 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: The Trump administration has already confirmed the signal meeting. Why 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: do we need every detail of who's responsible? The Democrats 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: have never admitted or taken responsibility for, or been held 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: to account for anything. Hillary's private emare tapes in clinton 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: sock drawer, Biden's unsecured classified documents, leaders of leakers of 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the Dobbs opinion, open Southern Border, et cetera, et cetera. 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: So Sparris, the fake outrage Democrats, Well, that's politics, fake outrage. Yeah, 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and Kelly, I want my team to win. As we've 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: said before, I often liken it to sports talk. My 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: quarter throw quarterback throws three consecutive interceptions. I'm gonna say, hey, 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: he needs to be more careful. That doesn't mean I 86 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: liked Kamala Harris or that I want the Trump administration 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: to fail. 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: They just have to do a better job. I don't 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: even know if you need to go that far whose team? 90 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: What? 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: Just let me know. I don't even need to know 92 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: the team. All those things were bad, including this one. 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: Right agreed? Yeah, you're right. 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Are they utterly inconsistent hypocrites? Yes, Kelly, Yes, they are 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: my friend one hundred percent. So moving along. You know 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Bob Dylan songs. I still haven't 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: seen that. Dang Nan old Timothy or Shallomey movie. Dylan movie. 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh you haven't. You'll like it? And I thought I 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: would hate it. I swear to god it. 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Every time I think of going to a theater, I think, no, 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: they showing the Joe Getty story, and I would think 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: people talk. 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: And they rattle their their rappers and stuff, and now. 104 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: Unknown recordings of childhood athletic heroics they put in a film, 105 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: and you think, nah. 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: No, what Getty hero to millions now in theaters? Ah wait, 107 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: let's on Netflix. What keeps you out of the theater? 108 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, just the whole experience of getting there 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: and driving, parking, waiting and sitting and watching a bunch 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: of heads and then somebody's talking. 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: It's funny you are with that the way I am 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: with flying. I hate flying. I hate it. I'm not 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: scared of it or anything like that. 114 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: Just the whole thing, the driving, the parking, the bag, 115 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: the security, just all of it. 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I hate, Yeah, I sympathize anyway. 117 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: So where were we? 118 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Bob Dylan, that's right, I'm tempted to tell a story. 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Isn't a side, but I want one of my favorite 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan songs from his Christian phase. I can't remember 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: what album might have been, Slow Trained Coming Is, or 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's on Infidels, I don't know is Man of Peace, 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: and the key line in it is sometimes Satan comes 124 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: as a man of peace. 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: Did you know this? 126 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: Bob Dylan born a Jew, living a Jew all of 127 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: a sudden in the mid seventies. It happened in Albuquerque. 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: I think I was reading about this the other day 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: in a hotel room. He gets struck by the by 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: Jesus and he goes full hundred percent Christian for quite 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: a few years. 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: You got to save somebody. 133 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: It may be the devil and it may be the Lord, 134 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: but you kind of have to save something. 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: You might be the heavyweight champion of the world. You 136 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: gotta serve somebody, that's right. Anyway, Sometimes Satan comes as 137 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: a man of peace. Sometimes Satan comes as a protector 138 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: of children. And I speak of the teachers' unions suing 139 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: the Trump administration this week for trying to a ball 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: the Education Department, which is not a surprise because the 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: Department of Education, as we've been detailing in the recent days, 142 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: was created at the behest of the teachers unions by 143 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: Jimmy Carter, who knew at the time it was a 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: bad idea. He said, so Democratic Congress people we've quoted 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: saying this is not a good idea. 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: And the Department of Education has mainly served to advance 147 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: the agenda of the teachers union for more spending and 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: less accountability through the years. They are perhaps have been 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: formed with honest aims of protecting teachers and making sure 150 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: teachers are paid adequately and not fired arbitrarily. I get that, 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: but they have absolutely become what Bob Dylan was talking about. 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: They have become a force for evil, and they would 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: feed children into the wood chipper, perhaps not literally, but 154 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: damn close to profit. I speak of Randy Weingarten, not 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: your data day teachers, many of whom are very very 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: good people, but the unions have become unspeakably evil. 157 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: And if you don't know how it works. 158 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: So among the chief duties of the Education Department is 159 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to dole out federal money, which is somewhere around ten 160 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: percent of all education spunding funding. Rather spending funding spunding, 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: I combine them. Ninety percent is state and local government. 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: But as ms McMahon, Linda McMahon, who's running and soon shutting, 163 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I hope the Education Department points out, quote, a lot 164 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of the funding that goes into the states now goes 165 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: with a lot of red tape, a lot of strings 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: attached to it. And the Trump administration, and I want 167 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: you to hear this loud and clear. If you have 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: heard the local Teachers Union, which represents probably some of 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: your friends and neighbors, say, welssa's going to yank the 170 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: money away from the special needs kids and the poorer kids. 171 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: You're going to have poor legless children starving because they 172 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: can't get lunch at school sort of thing. Here's the 173 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: evil aim of the Trump administration. They want to make 174 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: sure that quote the funding continues, but that the states 175 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: are allowed to spend the money where they need to 176 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: spend it, instead of where the federal government says they 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: must spend now the federal government which is dancing to 178 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: the tune of the teachers' unions. 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: I hadn't heard this. This is not being covered well. 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: And you know what's really interesting, this is some great perspective. 181 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: The bigger problem may be that the federal funding program 182 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: for disadvantage students has a near perfect record of being 183 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: ineffective in improving outcomes. It is absolutely shoving money down 184 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: a rat. 185 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Hole whatever that means. What hole in nineteen sixty six? 186 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: Rat hole? Rat hole? 187 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty six, a year after Title one was 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the history. It's federal 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: funding of education was created. A frustrated Robert F. Kennedy, 190 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: not the new super tanned buff one with the weird voice, 191 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the old or the original the og exclaimed, what happened 192 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: to the children? Do you mean you spent a billion 193 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: dollars and you don't know whether they can read or not? 194 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Thirty five years later, Rod Page, you served under George 195 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: W echoed that sentiment. Quote after spending one hundred and 196 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty five billion dollars of Title I money over twenty 197 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: five years, we have virtually nothing to show for it. 198 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: It' sect the War on poverty a similar situation. 199 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: He's spent gazillions of dollars and haven't moved the needle 200 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: poverty one. So as guardians of the status quo, quoting 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, Now, teachers' unions want the government 202 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: to force children into the school's union's control, and the 203 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Education Department is currently constituted helps him advance that agenda. 204 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: The money continues to flow with little or no accounting 205 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: whether it's being used responsibly, let alone effectively. Before you 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: buy the argument that mister Trump's effort to eliminate the 207 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Education Department will be detrimental to students, you need to 208 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: buy the argument that. 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: The department's creation. 210 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Had anything to do with improving student outcomes. 211 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: That's a hard sell. 212 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: As usual, teachers' unions are acting in their own interests 213 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: while pretending to act in the interests of students and families. 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: It's highly frustrating. 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes Satan comes as a teachers union representative. 216 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: End of screed. 217 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: So my new favorite band name is Belgrade Sound Cannon. 218 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why that is coming up, among other things, 219 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: stay tuned, Armstrong. 220 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: And these are not savings, they're schemes. 221 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: I would just buying toy paper the other day, and 222 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: it was a five dollars discount if you had the 223 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: digital coupon. Now, to get that coupon, I had to 224 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: first download an app for Vaughan's. Then I had to 225 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: sign up for an account. Then I had to scan 226 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 5: the proper code to get the digital coupon, And once 227 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: I was at the cash register, she had to manipulate 228 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: my phone to figure out where the barcode was. 229 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. 230 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: Ah okay, that's what they're talking about. I've been in 231 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: line behind people this with it slows down the line. 232 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: San Diego who first city to ban these digital lonely coupons, 233 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: which that guy there says a scam. I would never 234 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: I've never done that. If you're gonna make me like 235 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: make an account and sign up, I just know I'm 236 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: getting stolen from. 237 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: So San Diego is banning them. 238 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Why you can't ban that as a city and business 239 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: can do what it wants if it says, look, you 240 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: jump off through all these hoops, we'll give you five 241 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: bucks on your toilet off your toilet paper. 242 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 4: If you're willing to let us steal all your personal information, 243 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: we'll give you five bucks off. But that's a deal 244 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: you make with all kinds of websites. I feel like 245 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: I do like long, I feel like I do like 246 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,359 Speaker 4: one a day. Right, sound for another thing with another password, 247 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: and make the trade off of there's benefits to this 248 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: versus I know what the downsides are. NET sure a 249 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: bunch of emails from companies I've never heard of. 250 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: Now, Well, and the nice lady there on Fox five 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: in San Diego. Her tone of voice implied that, well, 252 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: every American deserves that five dollars off, and I demand 253 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the right to not have to do that stuff for 254 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: my five dollars off. 255 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: No, it's a quid pro quo. 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: They want access to you to promote their grocery store, 257 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and in return for you giving them that means they're 258 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: giving you five bucks off on your toilet paper. That's 259 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: the oh Man meddlesome America. Now, now we're gonna outlaw 260 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: that because I don't like it. Then we're kind of 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: outlawed that because I. 262 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Don't like it. 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I got a couple of stories for you 264 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: that don't need a whole bunch of time. Each Serbian 265 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: sound cannons. I like the sound of that better than Belgrade. 266 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 4: Belgrade in Serbia, Serbian sound Belgrade but whatever, Okay, Bellground said, 267 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: what happened to vaguely European. 268 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: It's got sound in it. Cannon implies power, So. 269 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: We won't get into the politics of Serbia. But they 270 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: got problem the president. Big protest they think is corrupt, 271 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 4: trying to drive them out office. That had huge, just 272 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: absolutely huge demonstrations. Well thousands and thousands were gathered in 273 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: Belgrade the other day to protest the president. Then all 274 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden, something I've seen the video, something caused 275 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: the crowd to like part and run away, and you 276 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: can't really hear anything or seeing anything. And there are 277 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: kinds of reports that the government used one of those 278 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: weird sound wave things that maybe you've seen demonstrated online. 279 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: Sixty Minutes had it years ago where they showed it 280 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: like the Havana syndrome thing. I don't think so, it's 281 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: I remember when sixty Minutes demonstrated. It's like a it's 282 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: like a wave of sound. 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: That was heat. 284 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: But it's it's sure, yeah, it's just it's a sound 285 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: might be the wrong way to describe it. You hear something, 286 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: but that's not what makes you run away. You hear 287 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: loud noises all the time don't make you run. 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: And this is energy. It's some sort of energy. Yeah, 289 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: that makes you freak out and run away. 290 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: This woman had never heard anything quite so alarming and 291 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: disturbing in a protest as a sound that broke a 292 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: commemorative silence during a huge anti government rally in Serbia's capital, Belgrade, 293 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: it was quiet and peace well, and then we heard 294 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: something we could not see, like a sound rolling Towrdoise. 295 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: People started rushing for safety toward the payment, feeling that 296 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: something was moving towardoise down the street. Wow, so that's 297 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: not just a sound. The perception that something's moving toward 298 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: you down the street wouldn't just be a sound. I mean, 299 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of really really loud. 300 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Sounds in my life, and you instinctively find it menacing. 301 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: Hundreds of others offered similar accounts, triggering accusations at the police, military, 302 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: or security services. Or somebody used an acoustic crowd control 303 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: weapon to target peaceful protesters. These weapons are illegal in 304 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: Serbia in most places. Well, they're illegal until you decide 305 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: you need to use them. We'll probably use them on 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: the battlefield, you know, against the Chinese. Someday and them 307 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: some weapon against us that we've never heard of anyway. 308 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: They can trigger sharp ear pain, disorientation, ear drum ruptures, 309 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: even irreversible hearing damage. 310 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: Yikes. 311 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: And the president is denying it, saying if I use 312 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: something like that, I'd be driven out of office immediately. Okay, 313 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: Well that's what they're trying to do, is drive you 314 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: out office. Yeah huh right, said the protesters. I find 315 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: this interesting, Serbius. Police and government deny possessing the US 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: made long range acoustic device l RAD when presented with 317 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: photo blah blah blah blah blah. So they might have 318 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: had this thing that we invented, and then one. 319 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Other the drones and this and the laser beams and microwaves. 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: Well, the next war is going to be You'll constantly 321 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: in the next big war, you'll constantly be reading about 322 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: weapons you didn't even know existed. How much time I got, 323 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: Michael Oh wanted to jam this in. Okay, got another 324 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: unpleasant story. Probably doesn't need much time. Former NFL running 325 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: back just busted in a dog fighting ring. 326 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: Thing. One hundred and ninety pit bulls uh seized. 327 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: It's the biggest single bust of dog fighting in American 328 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: history against one guy. Horrifying detail that I won't get into. 329 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: But what is it with NFL players and dog fighting? 330 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: Who's the dude? 331 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 4: I'd never heard of him? He played six years in 332 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: the NFL with a bunch of different teams. Lashawn Johnson, 333 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wow, crutal. 334 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 2: I'd say armstrong and getty. 335 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: I tended to get sidetracked by our last story that 336 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: he did wrote before the commercial break, but just so ahead, 337 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: just say this underappreciated cultural differences among different segments of society. 338 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: They busted this dog fighting ring. Former NFL player he 339 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: had one hundred and ninety dog whose biggest single dog 340 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: fighting bust in US history? But just I mean, how 341 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: many people had to be involved in the running of that, 342 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: and then how many people are involved to make it 343 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: worthwhile to have one hundred ninety dogs? I mean, there's 344 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: gotta be thousands and thousands and thousands of people that 345 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: are participating and attending and betting on for that to exist. 346 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Has to be quite a few people. Anyway, I don't 347 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: know that it needs to be that many, but well, 348 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: certainly hundreds and hundreds it have to be. Yeah, it 349 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: would be beneficial. 350 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: And who do you know that wouldn't just be absolutely 351 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: shookingly horrified if they had to watch something like that, 352 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: let alone enthusiastically participate. 353 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you talk about a cultural difference. 354 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: I know, I know way more people that would cry 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 4: hearing this story than I've ever known that would enjoy watching. 356 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Yeah. 357 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: One of the most useful and simple explanation of culture. 358 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Explanations of culture I've ever come across. Who the heck 359 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: wrote this name will pop it into my head. Culture 360 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: is how we do things around here. It's as simple 361 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: and complicated as that. What's a husband's relationship with his 362 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: wife in our culture? What's our relationship with a police officer? 363 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: That's our relationship with the government. How do we treat 364 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: each other when we pass a a stranger? How about 365 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: a friend? How does one religious denomination interact with the other? 366 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: That's all culture. Do you pet your dog and you 367 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: love dogs and you like donate to rescue operations? Or 368 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: do you have animals fight each other to the death 369 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: for your entertainment and gambling? 370 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious cultural difference. 371 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: I gotta believe I don't know this, but I would 372 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: assume that the crowd that can watch dog fights is 373 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: also more okay with like domestic violence and violence in general. Shure, 374 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: non kids or what I gotta be, doesn't it? 375 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah? I think so. Oh that's horrible anyway. 376 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: There are very few cultures around the world that have 377 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: horrifyingly violent entertainment of this sort that. 378 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Aren't more violent just in general. 379 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: Right anyway, speaking of violence and horror, I know what 380 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: you're thinking, same thing I've been thinking forever. When are 381 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: we going to get like a horror movie version of 382 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse? Okay, nobody's ever thought that, but Michael, I 383 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: guess apparently there's something like that out these days. Set 384 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: sail for an adventure like no other meat Steamboat Willie. 385 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: He's wacky, he's wicked, and he's whistling his way into 386 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: your heart. Literally, O d. 387 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: All aboard the Staton iveand ferry. 388 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: They're all going to die when their dream voyage turns 389 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: into a nightmare. This is no fairy tam please please 390 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: Steamer Screamboat. Screamboat. 391 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: So if you're not familiar, Mickey Mouse originally was Steamboat 392 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: Willie nineteen twenty eight. I just looked it up almost 393 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: one hundred years ago. The first Disney cartoon with Mickey Mouse, 394 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: and they're calling it scream boat Michael. 395 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: Is that a parody because the voiceover doesn't fit with 396 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: like an actual attempt to And. 397 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: They're going to get sued for using steamboat Willy in 398 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: their advertisement. 399 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: It might be public domain at this point, it's almost 400 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: one hundred years old. 401 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: It's not a parody. 402 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 6: They're and they're calling him screamboat Willie. 403 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the stuff that becomes at the 404 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: first of the year. I always think this list is 405 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: interesting stuff that becomes public domain, and it's different limits 406 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: for different things, but like songs, books, poems, videos, that's 407 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: the rules we have in the United States. After a 408 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: certain amount of time, it's just out there and anybody 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: can use it for whatever they want to. 410 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Use it for. It's an interesting idea. Well, some people 411 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: are against it, some people are for it. 412 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: And the director of this is actually a pretty great 413 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: horror director. He did the Terrifier series, which if you're 414 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 6: a horror fan. 415 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: You could have made that up. As far as I'm concerned, 416 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't have the horror fans. No, I'm not making 417 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: it up. 418 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 6: It's a great it's a it's a series of horror 419 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 6: movies and they're fantastic. 420 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Huh, okay, you could bond with my son. 421 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: He's crazy into that sort of stuff. 422 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Encyclopediachnology writes, like serious treatises on those series and what 423 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: they mean, and ei they're effective and it's crazy anyway, 424 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: So moving along, at least somewhat thought this was interesting. 425 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Joanna Stern writes a popular tech column and her headline 426 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: is I quit Google Search for AI and I'm not 427 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: going back. Oh wow, I love this, And obviously she 428 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: goes into how ads and search optimized junkies made a 429 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: mess of Google. 430 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. 431 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: Like last night I was, I Googled a particular car dealer, 432 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: like the name of it, and I get eight other 433 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: options first, right, Yeah, that's ridiculous. 434 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: That's not what Google used to be. 435 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she goes into, you know, the history of 436 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: it and how it got kind of gummed up in 437 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think we're all fairly familiar 438 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: with that. At she says, with AI chatbots, it's really 439 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: like having that personal search Butler Chat, GPT, Microsoft Copilot 440 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: and Perplexity have real time web access, generating responses with 441 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: citations to external websites. 442 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 7: Uh. 443 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: Last week Anthropics Claude joined the club and Google's testing 444 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: in AI mode built into search. 445 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 4: Woway, I need a smart person. Maybe I'll ask U 446 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: my sitter house sitter. They're good with tech. I need 447 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 4: somebody to walk through how I get this on my 448 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: phone so I can use it. I absolutely would use 449 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: this instead of Google. Uh. 450 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's actually fairly easy because they have apps 451 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: in the app Store. 452 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: But when is AI better? She says, I try to 453 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: list all the places. 454 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: AI search beats old school search, shopping, people recipes, how tos, 455 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: movie recommendations, places to stream a recommended movie. The rundown 456 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: was longer than a CVS receipt, she said, that's long. 457 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh so instance, who's streaming this movie? 458 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: Google's only going to give you the places that paid 459 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: them to be at the top of the list. There 460 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: might be other places that are cheaper or free. 461 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, sure it doesn't sprize. 462 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: It is AI search the death of the Blue Links. 463 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: I'd say it's more a makeover than funeral. She writes. 464 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Yes, these bots spar us from the click through marathons, 465 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: but if they are good at grabbing useful information from 466 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: the web, you'll get links you actually want to click. 467 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: For instance, I asked all of the chatbots the same 468 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: crucial parenting question, what three D printer under five hundred 469 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: dollars should I buy my seven year old? 470 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: And the results were very, very useful. 471 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Without a bunch of gummed up sales crap. Old school 472 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: Google search was exactly what you'd expect, sponsored links, promoted products, 473 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: links to best buy Amazon, YouTube videos, took several clicks 474 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: to even get a baseline of credible options. And if 475 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: you think I'm picking on Google bing was just as bad. 476 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: Well, this is the free market at worked. 477 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: This is similar to the conversation we had last hour 478 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: about the whole coupon thing that you were rent and 479 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: raving about. 480 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: This is fine. You know Google did that. They went 481 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: too far. 482 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: They have practically killed the golden goose, I think, and 483 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: it's going to drive a lot of us to try 484 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: something else, and then they'll probably have to back off 485 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: their sponsorships if they want to keep people around. 486 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I needed to read a sentence and make a confession. 487 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: For some searches like when is the first day of 488 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: spring or the airtime of the Severance finale, the first 489 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: answer is all I need. I was griping, I think 490 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: it was yesterday about how I was watching Severance and 491 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: it seemed to have a story arc that might continue forever. 492 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, I could have. 493 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: Just Googled it or aied it or something and realized that, 494 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: oh no, no, the season, the end of season two 495 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: is the end of the series, and the finale's going 496 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: to air tomorrow. 497 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh it was decisive, It was. 498 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Wild, satisfying, great sci fi ish twist. No spoilers here, 499 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: but I apologize for questioning the creative geniuses behind the 500 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: behind this. 501 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: They're in a booth at a pizza place and it 502 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: just goes black and a journey song starts. 503 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Oh you saw it anyway, So that's up with AI? 504 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: When is Google better? And she writes, here's an easier 505 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: list to draw. What Google Search is still good for 506 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: for starters? Links to any web page you already know exists, 507 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Adam Scott's IMDb page. 508 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: I don't know who Adam Scott is. 509 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Bob from Accounting's linked in a story you vaguely remember 510 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: calling Bluie a juggernaut. Google's still your go, Tom. And 511 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: while AI tools can recommend local restaurants and shopping, Google 512 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: still excels at showing you accurate maps, addresses, and hours. 513 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, huh, I do think Google. I'll get used 514 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: to this as it comes on. 515 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: Google pushed it too far and they're gonna have to 516 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: pare it back if they don't want to lose everybody 517 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: to to something else. 518 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: Interestingly, now and smartly, Google has its own AI. 519 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they get either way, they get you. 520 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: Theoretically, Amazon has gone too far too But there's no 521 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: competition for Amazon, which is what some people are arguing 522 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: it's a monopoly or whatever. 523 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 524 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: But man, you search on some specific thing and you 525 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: get nineteen other. 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: Choices first, or your first twenty seven links are sponsored, 527 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: and you know, okay, there it is for less per 528 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: item with free shipping four pages in. Yeah, it's gotten 529 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: a little obnoxious than come on, Jeff, Jeff Zebasos. 530 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 4: Nobody had comments on the fact that the world's first 531 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: of all, how many times do I ever hear Elon 532 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 4: Musk's name without World's richest man attached to it in 533 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: the news? 534 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't, and talked about it yesterday. 535 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: Elon Musk, the World's richest man, thinks we need to 536 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: cut back social security checks. It's either a good idea 537 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 4: or not. His personal wealth has nothing to do with it. 538 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 539 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: He ought to give away a couple hundred billion dollars. 540 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: So he's the world second richest man, because if you're 541 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: the world second richest man, you can do whatever the 542 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: hell you want Beizo seems to care mostly about looking 543 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: cool and yachts and hot chicks and stuff like that. 544 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: He gets knocked never for being the world's second richest man. 545 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: Right right. 546 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: He's tried to reform the Washington Post at least a 547 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: little bit, which is going to fail, but I appreciate 548 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: the effort. Oh. Speaking of which, we got an email 549 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: from a guy the other day. I wish I could 550 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: give him credit. I don't remember the name, but pointing 551 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: out that, all right, you hear twenty times a day. 552 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is the world's richest man. But MBS in 553 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia has multiples of Elon's money, multiples. Vladimir Putin 554 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: is believed to be, if not the richest man on earth, 555 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: among the richest men on earth. So Elon is the 556 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: richest guy whose income and wealth is disclosed earned. 557 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: That's what I go with, and that's why we'll continue 558 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: to call him the world richest man. While that is 559 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: technically true and interesting, I'm giving no credit to people 560 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: who are thugs and thieves. 561 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: All right, the world's my most financially successful man would 562 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: be yeah, one way to put it, you know, and 563 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: he is. 564 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: I think he'd have to give away like I haven't 565 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: looked recently. I'll look it up, but like three hundred 566 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: billion dollars to drop the second place. He has really 567 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: got a lot of money. He's likely, he's only fifty 568 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: two or something. He's likely to become the first trillionaire. 569 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: Weighty hits a trillion, you know how people like round numbers. 570 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: Oh, that'll really be a big deal. Then he's super evil. 571 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: A trillionaire is trying to cut your government services. 572 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: Right. I was listening to MSNBC this morning. They said, 573 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 4: do you think Elon Musk, the world's richest man, has 574 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: any idea what it's like for a grandmother's three hundred 575 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: dollars social security check to matter? 576 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: All right? 577 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, unless I'm also poor, I can't imagine it'd 578 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: be impossible. Right, we'll finish. No, we're not done yet. 579 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: I almost thought we were done. 580 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: How do you like that? 581 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: Oh, it's like when you wake up and you think 582 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: it's Saturday and it turns out it's Tuesday. No more 583 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: of the waste to hear. 584 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 7: So the task force is going to bring together all 585 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 7: of the cases in attacks against Tesla facilities, vehicles for 586 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 7: charging stations across the country. So that'll be FBI agents 587 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 7: working with ATF agents. Now ATF has the premier lab 588 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 7: when it comes to solving ARSON cases in the country, 589 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 7: along with intelligence analysts, to develop a unified case intake 590 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 7: system so that they can track the cases and use 591 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 7: those intelligence analysts and investigators to find out is there 592 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 7: a connection between the attacks, the attackers, or any particular network, 593 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 7: and to make sure that they are gathering evidence and 594 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 7: driving towards prosecutions. 595 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: You can't claim CNN, for instance, isn't taking the attacks 596 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 4: on Tesla seriously because they've been going pretty big on it. 597 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: It's domestic terrors and it should get a lot of attention. 598 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: And we let this slide, you know, the other side 599 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: will do it or other causes and it'll just grow 600 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: and grow and wrong and it will be happening all 601 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: the time. Absolutely undeniable. Yep, this stat yesterday bothered me. 602 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: Consumer confidence index was down seven point two points, biggest 603 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: drop in three years. So or go back to twenty one, 604 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: so that's four years middle of the pandemic. So didn't 605 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: like seeing that several months in a row. 606 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Two? Yeah, what's that based on the whole tar thing? 607 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and people have maxed out credit cards. 608 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: Uh, defaults are on their eyes. 609 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: There are just savings are at a low since you 610 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: know several years ago. There are just a number of 611 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: not so great indicators. 612 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: Colorado, their state houses agreed to remove the quote bad 613 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: painting of Trump after he complained about it. 614 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what I think about this painting. 615 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: Painting deliberately painted to make him look fatter. 616 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: It's gotta be it looks like a fat little baby. 617 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: But was that the person's best effort or you think 618 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: it was delivered? First of all, I'm amazed that anybody 619 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: can ever sketch or paint someone and make it look 620 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: enough like them that you would know what was them. 621 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just stunning to me. Stunning. 622 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: But if you're walking through that Hall of the Presidents, 623 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: there's not one person that would say, who's that? 624 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: You know it's Donald Trump. 625 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: It's just an odd painting of him, and I just 626 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: think of lots of paintings I've seen, or that MLK. 627 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: Memorial they've got in Washington, d C. It doesn't Oh, 628 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: is that who that is? 629 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: It doesn't look anything like MLKA that If you told 630 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: me who's this, I wouldn't have been able to guess. 631 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 632 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: So, And that wasn't on purpose to make MLK look bad. 633 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 4: It just was an artist rendering that didn't go. Oh well, 634 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: right anyway, I don't think Trump's out of line to say, 635 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: can I get one that's not quite so roundheaded? 636 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: He really looks like a fat toddler Trump. It reminds 637 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: me of that big Trump and a diaper that was 638 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: popular in Europe there for a while. 639 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh right, a big balloon. Yeah. 640 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Can I throw in one more quick note on 641 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: the AI thing we were talking about a minute or 642 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: two ago. The journalist points out that while I'm in 643 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: favor of shifting the stale search paradigm, I do have 644 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: AI reservations. These systems hoover up answers from the Internet, 645 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: but rarely push you to the original source. Your trusted 646 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: sources of information, like her publication in the Wall Street Journal, 647 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: stand to lose visibility, subscribers, and traffic. If too many 648 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: online platforms suffer, will end up losing the open web 649 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: in exchange for one big answer machine with zero citations 650 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: or accountability. 651 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: It's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah, it is. 652 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: And you said you're going to sign up for some 653 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: AI and start dabbling. I think that great. I've been 654 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 4: promising to do it, but I haven't. I've let the 655 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: show down. I haven't done it yet. 656 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: Yes, again, mostly for search purposes. I love the idea 657 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: of like playing around with image creation or video creation 658 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: with the prompts, or music creation, I suppose, but honestly 659 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: I should at least spend a day on it or something. 660 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I would rather make real music or watch the birds 661 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: flying back and forth or whatever. 662 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 663 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need writing do that, but I would 664 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 4: love to get into spend more time with various AI chatbots, 665 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: you know, asking it questions about historical facts or whatever, 666 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 4: and just seeing kind of answers. Again, I'm pretty interested 667 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 4: in that, and I certainly read about it A lot 668 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: came across the shoesh today. I'm going to throw it out. 669 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 4: One of those sayings you see every now and then. 670 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: I really liked this. 671 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: If you're worried about the cost of going for it, 672 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 4: you should see the price of staying exactly where you are. 673 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: Mm I like it. I thought that was fantastic, Speaking of. 674 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Fantastic, more intormation to come during our four. Wait what, 675 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: you don't get our four? You've got to go somewhere. 676 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: That's fine. 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