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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, all of y'all. This is episode seventy eight

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Speaker 1: of Native Lampod where we give it to you straight,

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Speaker 1: with respect for your opinions and that you'll come to

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Speaker 1: the right conclusion. We talk all things, of course, politics

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Speaker 1: and culture, and we're your hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Raie,

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Speaker 1: and I'm Andrew Gillim. What's up everybody?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Hi Andrew. I like your Malcolm X glasses.

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Speaker 1: Oh listen to you. You know what, Thank you friend.

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Speaker 1: I take it. I'm feeling a little rebellious right now

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Speaker 1: on some things, but we'll get into that when we

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Speaker 1: get into some of this rundown. Angela, I know you've

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Speaker 1: been on the road. It is good to see you

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Speaker 1: with your traditional background of hay, flowers and trees behind you.

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Speaker 1: You're doing okay?

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Speaker 3: Am ready to get into it right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a great show today, a good conversation

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Speaker 1: coming up. And actually along those lines, Angela, why don't

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Speaker 1: you what you tell us first? What we're talking about, Well, what.

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Speaker 5: I would like to talk about first is I know

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Speaker 5: some of you will remember last week we talked about

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Speaker 5: the tour and I really wanted to find the one,

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Speaker 5: really hoping that we could find the one.

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Speaker 3: And from when did we.

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Speaker 5: Record Wednesday to Saturday, when we got to Birmingham, the

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Speaker 5: one appeared. And his name is Ray Lewis, and Ray

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Speaker 5: will join us today. He's not the football player, but

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Speaker 5: he has made the quite quite the impact in his

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Speaker 5: local community. And I just really think what he shared

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Speaker 5: is so profound. It pricked the hearts of my brothers, Killer,

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Speaker 5: Mike and Leonard and Wallow all who I've heard from,

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Speaker 5: and they've shared Ray's amazing story. And Ray's story is

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Speaker 5: going viral because Ray speaks for many. There is a

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Speaker 5: Ray Lewis in every community, every black community, all over

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Speaker 5: this country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's real. I'm looking forward to that. And

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Speaker 1: I did see his express thoughts, at least those that

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Speaker 1: were captured on video. And y'all, you do not want

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Speaker 1: to check out, You do not want to tune out,

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned in. This is going to be a conversation

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Speaker 1: that you are gonna want to hear. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things, Tiff, I know you and I also have

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Speaker 1: been passionate on and hopefully we'll get to it if

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Speaker 1: we don't have our souls arrested completely during today's interview.

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Speaker 1: Is what's happening with our historically black colleges and universities

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Speaker 1: around the country. How is the MAGA movement influencing and

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Speaker 1: filtrating down to impact the future of our HBCUs. And

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Speaker 1: I'm open we'll be able to get into that tipping

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Speaker 1: anything else on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Hit, Yes, Actually so, I as a lot of you

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Speaker 6: saw raise clip and often on this show, I've tried

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Speaker 6: to talk about what happens in prison, and you know

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Speaker 6: how many people are in prison. I've had family members

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Speaker 6: and and so I was able to chat with Ray

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Speaker 6: a little bit in the green room, in our digital

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Speaker 6: green room, and that's really something I want to hear

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Speaker 6: from him about, like how can we support the people

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Speaker 6: who are behind bars to know that we haven't forgotten

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Speaker 6: about them the treatment that they're getting there. So as

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Speaker 6: important as it is to support our people on the outside,

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Speaker 6: I do want to get his thoughts on what it's

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Speaker 6: like on the inside, since so many of us are

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Speaker 6: ensnared in a very punishing and racist criminal justice system

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Speaker 6: here in America.

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Speaker 1: That's real that's real. And then y'all, we're going to

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Speaker 1: prioritize your questions and comments, which we will filtrate into

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Speaker 1: the show, and we'll close this thing out with some

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Speaker 1: calls to action for you. So with that, let's get in.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go to this young man right here, and

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Speaker 5: then we have to wrap your ten minutes by schedule.

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Speaker 2: So sorry, but alright, all right, my name Ray lou

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Speaker 2: Off from Burmahall, straight back Collegeville, and I'm speaking on

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Speaker 2: behalf of the streets for all my people that ain't

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Speaker 7: My baby brothers just got off.

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Speaker 2: Death row where he spent seventeen years of his nineteen

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Speaker 2: was nineteen. I hear everything, and y'all love babies. I

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Speaker 2: love y'all. Y'all can't do nothing bad it. But I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say what y'all didn say, because this right here,

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Speaker 2: direcular effect y'all in these streets, the murder rate through

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Speaker 2: the roof, This is what we're gonna start. It Ain't

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Speaker 2: nobody said that, but I'm gonna say this here. We

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Speaker 2: put them gun down. We learned to stop killing each other.

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Speaker 2: Bo what we started cause were killing each other.

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Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying, That's what is it?

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Speaker 2: The only way you can get a cure from a

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Speaker 2: disease and from the disease itself. I come from the streets.

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Speaker 2: The only thing they're gonna say the streets is something

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Speaker 2: come from it. I used to be a monster. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know what a man was because one naw now

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Speaker 2: by my brother got shot fifty six time with I

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Speaker 2: aink for this self and they left him out in

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Speaker 2: the rain for four hours in front of my mama.

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Speaker 2: Everybody had lost some pain. Lack is what breed kill ERUs.

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Speaker 2: Lack of resources. Boy, we ain't we ain't.

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Speaker 7: We don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Back going to getting no job and the refrigerator empty

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Speaker 2: and we're fourteen years old and it can't go get

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Speaker 2: no job to pay that bill mine. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, y'all want to know how.

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Speaker 7: To help us?

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Speaker 2: Mane you know what, I'm somebody help heal this plain

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Speaker 2: man because the paint sits so deep and it'll create

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Speaker 2: a monster mind. And y'all hear us out here saying

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Speaker 2: we don demon time in the little boy. That's serious

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Speaker 2: until the devil show up.

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Speaker 7: On five to five.

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Speaker 2: It phelsical stature, But I'm self fort foe in spirit.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm trying about.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna change this invirovment? Man? Is us changing our

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Speaker 2: mind because we manifest west in our mind, because we've

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Speaker 7: When I look at y'all, I see me.

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Speaker 2: When y'all look at me, y'all see y'all, cause we're

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Speaker 2: a mirror reflection of each other. And what we have

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Speaker 2: in coming is the struggle. It struggles every part of

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Speaker 2: every part of life. Man. You see what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: y'all looking at a man that died inside. Y'all want

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Speaker 2: to see the living dead you looking at it. The

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Speaker 2: only reason I'm here is called God got me, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Suposta have been on death row, but he saved me.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm telling y'all, this from the perspective

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Speaker 2: of a real hero. That's what We're gonna stop it

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Speaker 2: right now, Mike. They say we can't stand together for

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Speaker 7: I come from crypt background.

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Speaker 2: Man. We stand together neck until somebody asks me. Why

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Speaker 2: would you be willing to die for a stranger who

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Speaker 2: you don't know because of a blue color we have

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Speaker 2: in coming, rather than live your life for them babies

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Speaker 2: that you help. Rated My I'm just not getting in

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Speaker 7: I'm like you hear me, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Daddy could be me if he ain't that already. My

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Speaker 2: daddy wouldn't never do. He told the streets over us

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Speaker 2: my mama soul her body to put food.

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Speaker 7: On the table.

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Speaker 2: But I ain't see her as.

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Speaker 3: No hope, I saw my mama, that.

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Speaker 1: Poet and so angel love him to leave it to

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Speaker 1: you to uh bring in.

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Speaker 5: I want to think Ray before we bring him in,

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Speaker 5: for his vulnerability, uh, for his transparency, and for his

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Speaker 5: willingness to go above and beyond to save this next generation.

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Speaker 5: Ray's remarks resonated across the country, not just in that

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Speaker 5: theater in Birmingham.

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Speaker 3: So Ray, I would love to bring you on.

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Speaker 5: Ray Lewis a poet and activist, a disciple, welcome, an

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Speaker 5: EVANGELI listen to this next generation. Ray, thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for joining joining Native Lampid today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you here, brother, good to have

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Speaker 1: you here. Man, you have me a little emotional there

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Speaker 1: because I saw my cousins, I saw people I grew

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Speaker 1: up with, I saw I understood just perfectly what you

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Speaker 1: were explaining. And brother, you didn't have to share and

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Speaker 1: bear your soul the way that you did, but you

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Speaker 1: did it anyhow, And I'm just, you know, just to

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Speaker 1: kick us off, I'm really curious to know to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. One how did you know about the tour?

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Speaker 1: And two did you know when you got there that

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Speaker 1: you might bear your soul in the way that you did.

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Speaker 1: When I think about Angela having in allowed your question

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Speaker 1: just think about divinity. But God, right, it could have

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Speaker 1: ended ten minutes before, and I'm just so glad they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Right, I honestly, I went one of the sisters with

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Speaker 7: Down to the car theater, right.

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Speaker 2: So when we got there, you know, I seen how

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Speaker 2: everything was set up, with everybody who had the individual table,

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Speaker 2: And I never went back to the auditorium part the

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Speaker 2: until my little cousin called me and were like, hey man,

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I stopped what I was doing

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Speaker 2: for many waiting to see who it was he was

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Speaker 2: referring to this. When we ended up in the auditorium

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Speaker 2: and I just sat down, I really didn't come to speak,

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Speaker 2: so I just came looking for that person, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: cause they were talking about a job.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: like I'm hoping that they was gonna see They said

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Speaker 2: everything that they said, and I was grateful for that,

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Speaker 2: you understand what I'm coming from. That why I was

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Speaker 2: on the edge of my seat, hold in my hand

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Speaker 2: or actually, if somebody told me not to say something,

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Speaker 2: you feel me so and I was like, okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to get one of the cheers, and it said

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Speaker 2: until that Paul right there. And I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: some my little cousin. Man, please put your hand back up, bro,

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Speaker 2: because they need to hear from you. Bro.

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Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying. So I raised my hand

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Speaker 7: and it is right there, and she called on me.

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Speaker 4: You know, Ray, Yeah, I gotta love. I love hearing

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Speaker 4: Race speak.

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Speaker 6: If I close my eyes, I swear I'm talking to

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Speaker 6: my brother right now.

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Speaker 4: Like everything about you, it.

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Speaker 6: Reminds me of family and just familiarity and authenticity. So

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Speaker 6: I just echoed Angela's sentiments, thank you for joining us

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Speaker 6: and having a honest testimony that is familiar to so

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Speaker 6: of people who you know, didn't grow up seeing and

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Speaker 5: You to talk about the work of the Offenders Alumni

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Speaker 5: I think that folks felt like you stumbled in from

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Speaker 2: Bridge that gap by providing for them resources.

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Speaker 2: You understand what I spent twenty years separated from my

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Speaker 1: Talked to betting your testimony around a little bit of

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Speaker 2: It ain't like that, man, It is these right here.

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Speaker 2: It because certain sayings and conditions that we feel forced

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Speaker 7: Like like I told.

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Speaker 7: I ain't want to be no police officer. I ain't

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Speaker 3: I want to ask it. I didn't. I didn't mean

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Speaker 5: That's something that I think we all relate to so

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Speaker 3: Can you talk about why that is so important? Right now?

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Speaker 5: This part of the reason why I know you're doing

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Speaker 2: Well, I said, like this, God allow us to experience

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Speaker 7: Coming from a real life gins them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, background because it's immin and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they gonna flock, they gonna calm.

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Speaker 2: You understand, like a lot of people are in all

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Speaker 7: You understand why' coming wrong?

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Speaker 2: This? So this is so real like that, that's all

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Speaker 7: You understand what.

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Speaker 2: Coming from like strictly for real, for real, it's it's

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Speaker 7: For the living.

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Speaker 2: When you physically removed from society and placed in the

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Speaker 2: understand where I'm coming from, And man, is it real?

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Speaker 7: Is it real? Real? Bro?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 6: I actually I have a question for you, Ray, But

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Speaker 8: We'll get to it on the other side.

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Speaker 7: M h.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy you brought that up because that that's something

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Speaker 6: in prison across the country. That's according to Florida Atlantic

440
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Speaker 6: University School of Social Work. Five hundred thousand of those

441
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 6: men are fathers. And so something that I would like

442
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Speaker 6: our audience to know is, even if you may not

443
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 6: know someone in prison, what is something that we can

444
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 6: do to reduce recidivism, you know, to stop this cycle

445
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: of men getting out and going back to prison. And

446
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 6: what is something that we can do to support people

447
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 6: who are inside right now to let them know we

448
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 6: stand with them. They are not forgotten about. They've lost

449
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 6: their liberty but not their life, and we want to

450
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 6: be helpful to them and honor their humanity.

451
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Speaker 4: What's something that you could have.

452
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Speaker 2: Used, I mean having people like myself going back into

453
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: the penitentiary to talk to those individuals and letting them

454
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: know that these resources are available to them when they

455
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: get out because a lot of us the reason the

456
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: recipive is rated so high, and they say, well, eighty

457
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: five percent return back because a lot of them don't

458
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: have homes to go to no more. We've been gone

459
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 2: so long, Mama dead, daddy gone. You understand why, coming

460
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: from a lot of people that lost people. You understand,

461
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 2: so it's easier for one to resort back to what

462
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: they know. Is easy for them to put some money

463
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: in their pocket to feed their families, to feed their children.

464
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: So y'all social and economical resources need to be available

465
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: for them, for them babies when they come up out

466
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: of there.

467
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Speaker 7: You hear me, you understand, because if.

468
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: They feel like they lost, and they feel like it

469
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: ain't no other way.

470
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 7: It's just human nature. You know what.

471
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: You understand what coming from to do self preservation, it's

472
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: lower man.

473
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Speaker 7: Bro. I don't want to starve, Bro, I don't want

474
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 7: to die. Bro. It's better you than me. You see

475
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

476
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: I got to have this. You understand why, coming from

477
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: and a lot of people they turn they they turn

478
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: they know down. They turn their head down to us

479
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: because of what we've been to prison for. Like myself,

480
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 2: I went to the state for kajacking on Ryber first kajak,

481
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: I went to the FASE for a temptaclemitt murder over

482
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 2: a federal agent, a police officer in marijuana position.

483
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying.

484
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, my baby brother just spent seventeen years on death row.

485
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: We've been gone almost tuning that. They sent it to

486
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: the DED in nineteen. He been teaching lot for fifteen

487
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: and got itself out of all you understand. Wow, But

488
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: I'm just like, look at that. It's serious. So going back,

489
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: going back when it right in their face and let

490
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: them know that these are you care. That's the only way,

491
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: that's the only way it's gonna help. You Gotta go

492
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: back in and reach them.

493
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, rad I almost feel embarrassed about this. But

494
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: we spend a lot of time here talking about people

495
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: voting post step in our communities very specifically, and we

496
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: also spend a good deal of time, you know, talking

497
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: about why did people make the choice to stay out

498
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: of the process. And when I listened to and I

499
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: know this intuitively, and I know this from my I

500
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: know it from my relationships, from my brothers to my cousins,

501
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: to family people who I'm close to what it is

502
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: you're talking about. But I can't help but wonder, based

503
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: off your relationships, your own experience, folks, no, penitrentaries aren't

504
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: created by themselves, right, They didn't grow out of the

505
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: ground by themselves. A government, a set of institutions. Put

506
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: that together, the laws that they charge you with, either

507
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: breaking or not breaking, are not mysteries. They are written

508
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: in books and people are you know, their jobs are

509
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: to go after you and then to prosecute you, and

510
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: then to keep you in the industrial complex of prisons

511
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: as long as they possibly can. Right. So, if we

512
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: know that about the systems, meaning we know that there

513
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: are people who pull the triggers and I don't mean

514
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: the literal ones, but make the decisions that create the

515
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: conditions that many of us live in, then why is

516
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: in it sort of automatic that my brain go to, well,

517
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: what do I do to sort of shake that up?

518
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: Stop that break that silly question when you put that

519
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: next to some of the conditions that you described, right,

520
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: when you think about folks are trying to put food

521
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: in their mouth to live another day, or a roof

522
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: over their head, or finding love and acceptance and a gang,

523
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: or in a criminal enterprise because you don't have it

524
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: where you live. I am still I am still challenging

525
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: myself to still say that it's still our job, our

526
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: obligation to try to reach people, educate them, and involve

527
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: them in a process that can disrupt the cycle in

528
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: a real meaningful way, not just for one person, but

529
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: for that pipeline that what do you call that, that

530
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: assembly line that keeps feeding them into the chipper? Right?

531
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: What advice would you give us? What advice would you

532
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: give the listeners who are who want to affect change

533
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: there in a meaningful way? But at the end of

534
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: the day, say well, if folks don't want it, if

535
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: folks won't vote, if folks won't get out there and

536
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: do it, then why do I keep doing it?

537
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 7: Right?

538
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: So that well as okay, as it relates to the

539
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: voting thing, don't don't nobody in the street kept at it.

540
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: You know why, because everybody that be voted for and

541
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: put in office don't do nothing but talk.

542
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

543
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: The way we view politicians, you understand, why come run?

544
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: They don't do it down do nothing but a whole

545
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: lot of talking in the streets. We do a whole

546
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: lot of moving and shaking. When I was in when

547
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I was in prison, all oh year I've been going

548
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: to jails. I was eleven years old bro. You know,

549
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: I man, Well, when I stood in the Federal pentitention

550
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: and I looked around, you understand, me and my men

551
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: and the brothers DEVI was there younger because they in

552
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: the feed. They from all over the world, I understand.

553
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: And I looked around and we had we had a

554
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: little dialogue. And this this the question, This one question

555
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: right here would shake a lot of things to this core.

556
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: This one question as it relates to the men that's

557
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: in concentrated right, What greater power for one to have

558
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: over any race of people? Then the power will over

559
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: their ability to reproduce. If we keep dying and they

560
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: keep locking us up, you see that power and over

561
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: their ability for us to reproduce. Well, you know, if

562
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: we stop reproducing, we gonna die off. You understand what

563
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: come from you remove a man? How these women gonna

564
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: get pre You understand what I'm coming from. And the

565
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 2: babies out here killing each other and things of that

566
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 2: nature like that. They was like, man, that that way

567
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: right there, we could start jail right there. We ask

568
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: the right questions, We're gonna give real answers. You understand,

569
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people like the sugar coat. It ain't

570
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: no sugarcoat not here. Life is real for everybody, like

571
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: how we believe there is no such thing in a

572
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: middle class you got you know, like that class syism

573
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: they want to class by everything, upper class, middle class,

574
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: little class in our man. You either got it or

575
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: you don't. You understand you can't be had weight there

576
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: you know what I like? You almost there, but you ain't.

577
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: Now you the real or you faith the life going

578
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: through Going through prison was like a cocoon, like Jonah

579
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: and the bill of the beast. That's the bill of

580
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: the beast, that's the furnace. Change is only for those

581
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: who want it for themselves. You can't make change. You

582
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: can't make nobody change real abilitation is only for those

583
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: who seek it for themselves. And consertration starts in the

584
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: man before itever becomes physical. What you conceive in your

585
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: man and you believe in your heart through the physical

586
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: demonstrations of your physical actions, do you manifest all of

587
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: that into a physical reality. So the condition of your mind,

588
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: the condition of your life, is gonna reflect it. You

589
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: can't get a million dollars with a food stemp me talents.

590
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: You understand where I'm coming from. You understand you can't produce.

591
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: Change is constant, whether it's negative or positive. It's all

592
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: about energy. Baby, Whatever you put out there, that's what

593
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna get back. If this is what you want,

594
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: if you really want to live, you're gonna act like

595
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: you want to live. And if you really want to die,

596
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna act like you wanna die. It ain't no

597
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: in between, you understand. And a lot of these babies

598
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: are out here commit society to suicide. Yeah, yeah, they

599
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 2: for for lack of knowledge of self. You you you

600
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: heard it for for lack of knowledge people perish.

601
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 7: You understand what coming from? But this, this is more dick.

602
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: The most deadliest, most effective killer known to man is ignorance.

603
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 7: M then stand welcome.

604
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: I want to ask you because you're saying that politicians

605
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: don't do anything.

606
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 7: Nothing we don't see.

607
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: Okay, well that is a part of my question because

608
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 6: you're you're on this podcast with a public servant, with

609
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 6: someone who worked in politics, with someone who covered politics,

610
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 6: and so I want to hear from you, what does

611
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 6: doing something look like to you?

612
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 7: Providing really for real, for real.

613
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Like what we at. I'm just speaking about what we

614
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: get and what we see. We only see them talt.

615
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: We only see them do that make promises that they

616
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: don't keep to us. We just see it for them

617
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: as just being a money thing. And I ain't speaking

618
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: for our alarm, just speaking for the ones that we see. Yeah,

619
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: like we don't even care about that, like this real

620
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: life man, No, folks don't care about that. Them folks

621
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: is not ain't nobody but Grandma and auntieing them watching

622
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: the news and talking about going stand in the line

623
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: to vote for something. You know, when people out here

624
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: going through some real, some real struggles. The problem, the problem,

625
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: you fad, The problem is there. The solution is there too,

626
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: providing the resources and being for real about it. They

627
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: took everything away from these babies, all of the community,

628
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Like every project here that got community center, they had

629
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: closed them down. They took away all of these type

630
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: of activities that these babies can go and do this

631
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: and that right there, you understand. So now they playing

632
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: GTA out in the streets, They playing you know, a

633
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: call of duty out in the streets because they don't

634
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: they like we We feel like, don't nobody care, don't

635
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: nobody care about us? But us, Ain't nobody gonna do

636
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: that for us? But us. You understand why we gonna

637
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: sit here and wait around for somebody else to keep

638
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: a promise to us that they made. You understand what

639
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna do for the city. You understand what coming

640
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: from like the police, the police man, I'm trying to

641
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: tell you, it's real, bro, this real life.

642
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 7: You understand.

643
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: We police our own. Don't nobody stop no violence in

644
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: th streets.

645
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 7: But the streets.

646
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: You see what I'm talking about. We see drug dealers

647
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: make more change. You understand what coming from from our

648
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: It's sinna be like that.

649
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 7: That's why they think being gangster is cool.

650
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: That why they around here walking around with thirty round

651
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: magazines expose You understand they we come from chasing death

652
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: trying to live life because we didn't even know that

653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: we didn't know.

654
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 7: You understand.

655
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: So politicians, for the politicians that really care about the people,

656
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: they'll understand that the people are the people.

657
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 7: With the people is where the real power act.

658
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: You understand, and if you show them people that you

659
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: really love them, you can start by keeping promises that

660
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: you may and do exactly what you say you're gonna do,

661
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: instead of leaving it to them and them being left

662
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: to their own devices, because y'all know the street. It's

663
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: all over America, just keeping it local to the United

664
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: States of America. People so medicate.

665
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Using drugs.

666
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand, they drink alcohol just to know them

667
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: that pain on the inside, bro, because this be dead

668
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: for real. You understand. They making minimum wage around here,

669
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: and that ain't even enough, you understand. So everybody pushing

670
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: for entrepreneurship just so they can have enough capital. It's

671
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: all about providing the basing their systens of life because

672
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: the money is on a little tool that provide those things,

673
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: which is food, shelter, and clothes, you understand. But they

674
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: keep taking so much away from us what you wouldspect

675
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: somebody gonna do. Every dog has its day, you understand that.

676
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Why these girls out there doing the girls doing the

677
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: same thing that the boys do. Now you got what

678
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: you so called woman head a household because they making

679
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: rules in the projects and things of that nature like

680
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: that right there. Well, it's just for the woman in child.

681
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: They got so much going on for the women and children.

682
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: They left us out. So we gotta do what we

683
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: gotta do. Ass black men in this country just to

684
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: stay in rise aboard the condition of the struggle and

685
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: stay though. You see what I'm saying. It's all about winning,

686
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: you know. But like I say, y'all got it. All

687
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: they got to do is just really just stole it.

688
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 7: Uph be real.

689
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 3: I just want to say this to you, Ray.

690
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if you need to run for office

691
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: or consult for some elected officials, but what you're saying is,

692
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 5: you know, kitchen table politics is what we call that.

693
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 5: How people make ends meet, how they're closed, what programs

694
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: exist for kids. All of those are policy based decisions,

695
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: and whether or not they're funded or those opportunities are

696
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: closed are absolutely political. So I hope you will consider

697
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: running or advising I think you know Randall wood find

698
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 5: the mayor of Birmingham, was at the event on Saturday,

699
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: so I hope that you will advise Randall. I know

700
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: he takes violence prevention very serious. He lost family members

701
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 5: in the streets, and I know that he wants to

702
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: get right and keep getting tight, so I hope you

703
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: will consider consulting him. Definitely, stay in our kitchen cabinet

704
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: and get us right and what we're saying and how

705
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: we're showing up. That's important to us because we don't

706
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: want to just be talking for or at the community.

707
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: We want to serve it as well.

708
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could add to that, Ray, I've been

709
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: a mayor myself, and I have been elected to office

710
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: since I was twenty three years old in an official capacity,

711
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: and I'm in my forties now, I'm ad forties, And

712
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I will just say every mayor needs somebody like you

713
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: if you're not the mayor yourself. So when you think

714
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: about the system and how to disrupt it, how to

715
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: change it, it does sometimes feel like people running for

716
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: office run and they make promises and then when they

717
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: get there, they seem incapable of delivering. And I will

718
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: just tell you real quick that one of the reasons

719
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: why the delivery gets stalled is that the mayor isn't

720
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: government him or herself. There are there are this is

721
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: these are institutions. And I know you know enough about

722
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: institutions to know that not one person can turn that

723
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: thing around by itself. Not one person can create a

724
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: new by themselves. But or by the way, do they

725
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: know where to make the disruptions, where to create the wrinkles.

726
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: And so, folks like you in Cahoo's Coalition Partnership whatever

727
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: you want to call it with the people who are

728
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: deciders and helping to direct their actions, like, hey, you

729
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: put that center up, thank you for funding it, but

730
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: it's in the wrong place. Don't let it be in

731
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: the wrong place. Make sure you're in the conversations about

732
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: where a center is going to go that you and

733
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the crew that you're raising up under you. Because I

734
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: can tell by your voice, your presidence here today, what

735
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: you did at that at the forum, a state of

736
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the people when you were there. You are a leader.

737
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: You're a lion. You people follow you. Your voice, whether

738
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: you have a title of position or not, is one

739
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: that commands the attention of the room, of the space.

740
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you've manifested and not. Maybe you've manifested that in

741
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: your head before it's manifested physically, so you're aware that

742
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: you're a leader. But I would go further and say

743
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: you are a leader amongst leaders. That's a powerful calling. Man.

744
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: You said, God gave you back your life and took

745
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: you off death row and gave you back to a

746
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: community because He has a higher work for you. I

747
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: believe that because it's been evident just in the few

748
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: minutes of knowing you right now. And so my call

749
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: to you is simply to say, don't write them all

750
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: up and throw them all out. That sometimes it's not

751
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: that they have bad intention or ill intention or none whatsoever.

752
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just not sure where to start or the

753
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: right way to do it. And it's folks like you

754
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: who speak truth to power, unapologetically showing up and saying, no, man,

755
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: this is what we need, and we need it yesterday.

756
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: That's the urgency behind it. Because they're not all bad.

757
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Many run with the good intention, and they want to

758
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: deliver what they said they deliver. The cogs in the

759
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: wheel catch them up every time, so much so that

760
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: they want them to get to the place where they

761
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: forget what their intention was in the first place. You're

762
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: there to keep it and remind them of it, man,

763
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and I do hope that you'll consider an even larger role.

764
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: God may be leading you toward a larger role and

765
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: disrupting that not just in Alabama, not just but around

766
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: the around the globe.

767
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 9: Ro Ray laughing?

768
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: What'd you laughing?

769
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Ray?

770
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 7: No, I was just thinking about what he was saying.

771
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 2: Now. I just want you try to think about this right. Well,

772
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: if you take the red neighborhood, and if you take

773
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: neighbor from neighborhood. Hood stands alone. Hood is equivalent to

774
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: a war zone. That's what the hood is. So now

775
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: we're working toward.

776
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 7: Putting neighbor back in the neighborhood like community. You know what.

777
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: In order to unify, there has to be communication, the

778
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: right kind of communication. Unity is power where the vision

779
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: is not you understand, right. So as a relation to that,

780
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: that's my whole mission and my whole life with every

781
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: fight but of my being and to God called me home.

782
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm just really just living in my purpose. I prayed

783
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: for this honestly, bro, you understand, And I didn't know

784
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: where was gonna come from. Like as I told you,

785
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: I was, I wasn't going to go I wasn't gonna

786
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: go back till I got that call and I just

787
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: stopped everything. Right then it came on back and now

788
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm here. So I give all glory to God for

789
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: allowing me to be able to embrace this opportunity because

790
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: he awesome. You know that. No word to describe the

791
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: awesomeness of God. But I want him to use me,

792
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: you understand. And I know I can reach some baby

793
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: you already had you like you said that by myself.

794
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: I can't do it by myself saying.

795
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: Brother, you've been You've been at delight, You've been more

796
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: than that. You just issue a calling and you've been

797
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: shooting many of them in your time just being with us,

798
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: and I want to thank you again from the bottom

799
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: of my heart. I know that up is the direction.

800
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: There's no other there's no other option. UP is the

801
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: direction for you. And I think the movement that you're

802
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: beginning to, that you've been leading, and that you're continuing

803
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: to lead. And I just want to thank you for

804
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: offering our listeners and us just a little bit of

805
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: time to pull back back the layers. There. Angela, you

806
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: introduced us to God's angels, so I'll let you give

807
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: your part work.

808
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: I just wanted to to thank Gray for his testimony,

809
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: but I also would invite you to tune in to

810
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 6: Native Land Podcast if you can, because we definitely go

811
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 6: out of our way and try to make politics and

812
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 6: policy digestible. And if there is something going on, if

813
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 6: there's a question that you have, or or if you

814
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 6: see in your community, like yeah, this school is getting

815
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 6: closed down or they lack funding, to come back and

816
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 6: tell us about that, and maybe we can walk you

817
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 6: through the problem and the solution and how policy impacts

818
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: that to give more folks like you a sense of

819
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: agency over how you can impact everything and how you

820
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 6: are impacting everything around you. And I don't think you

821
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: know how many people will hear this and be so

822
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 6: illuminated by what you had to share.

823
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Today, so hopefully inspired to do something as well.

824
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: They definitely will. Ray's not gonna have it any other way.

825
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 5: Ray, I got to tell you, I thank you for

826
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: answering the call of your cousin. I thank you for

827
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: being in divine order. I thank you for living in

828
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 5: your purpose in your call, and I pray.

829
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: We gonna see you in New Orleans.

830
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 5: I know we're trying to make that happen, so I

831
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: am really grateful. I know you also mentioned to me,

832
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: and I hope I'm not putting your business all the

833
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: way out there.

834
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: Folks, you have heard Ray. You hear how compelling he is.

835
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: Ray told me the other day he was interviewing for

836
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: a job so Birmingham Randall woodfin in particular, I'm gonna

837
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: call you because Ray, I don't know, I feel like

838
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: you should have an advisory role in the administration of Birmingham,

839
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: but it is paid. So if there's anything we can do,

840
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 5: we got some people who got their eyes on you

841
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 5: from all over the country and if we can help

842
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: facilitate that, we got your back yard brother for life

843
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: now too.

844
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 7: Thank you.

845
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Those are just words for twenty years plus, that's real.

846
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: Well y'all you've heard it. Ray, Thank you. Brother. If

847
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: you've got parton words, give them to us. Beyond that, Brother,

848
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: thank you, and again, Hire, thank you.

849
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 7: I love yeah, I can't.

850
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: We love you, Ray, Thank you so much.

851
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 9: Welcome Nade Lampard.

852
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 10: I gotta be quick. So you guys were talking about

853
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 10: how you ought to have guests.

854
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

855
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 9: I think that the three of you brings.

856
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 10: Such a phenomenal level of conversation that you don't need it.

857
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

858
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 10: This most recent episode where you were talking about voter engagement,

859
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 10: you represent three diverse opinions that our community all engaged with,

860
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 10: but you bring them to the table and you allow

861
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 10: those three opinions to engage Tiffany, who many relates to,

862
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 10: who is just kind of frustrated, Andrew, who understands the

863
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 10: frustration but also knows that if you're going to direct funding,

864
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 10: it can't necessarily go into apathy. But then Angela, who

865
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 10: is just so powerfully engaged in striving to get that

866
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 10: demographic who is not engaged engaged it's listening to that conversation.

867
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 10: Those are the kitchen table talks that we need more

868
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 10: than anything. So No, I don't think you need anybody

869
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 10: on your show other than you all. You have three

870
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 10: diverse opinions that I think resonate with this audience in

871
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 10: a tremendous way.

872
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 9: Keep up the great work, y'all, and welcome home.

873
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. It's powerful.

874
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 6: Welcome, and I think we all disagree with you, brother Ali.

875
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: No, I think two things can be true. I think

876
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: two things can be true at one time. What he's

877
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: saying is is that these are conversations right in our

878
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: own community, which you say a lot in. I mean,

879
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: when you're talking about how diverse even our panel amongst

880
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: the three of us are background lived experience, and how

881
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: lived experience has shaped our oar, then opinions. I validate

882
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: what he said as relates to the richness of the

883
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: conversation that we're having, And the only place where I

884
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: differ is imagine, brother, how much more rich the conversation

885
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: will be when we're engaging with people who may offer

886
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: a fourth or a fifth and certainly beyond perspective that

887
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: we can engage with. I just I hear him, and

888
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: I think two things can be true at once.

889
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 6: Well, I, you know, I definitely appreciate that level of

890
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 6: interest and confidence and to what the three of us

891
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 6: have to say. And then there will be times where

892
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 6: you know, the audience will obviously hear just from the

893
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 6: three of us. There are times where they just hear

894
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 6: from Angela on her solo pod and you from on

895
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 6: your solo pod, Andrew. But I do think the conversations

896
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 6: are richer with different voices that we invite on.

897
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: And I thought.

898
00:45:53,640 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 6: Raised perspective was just touching to me because, like, I

899
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 6: don't know, I feel like we.

900
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 4: All know Ray, you know, like I know you.

901
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 6: I if my brother was like that, Ray is my

902
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 6: brother or my brother's best friend, you know, like I

903
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 6: know that person.

904
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: But even more importantly, I want.

905
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 6: For elected officials to know that that's right, you know,

906
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 6: because when he said politicians don't do anything, I think

907
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 6: that's such the dangerous disconnect that happens. And I'm so happy,

908
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 6: Andrew that you were able to walk him through that

909
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: as a mayor, because, like I always say, people don't

910
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 6: always understand the difference between state, federal, local.

911
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: They don't understand the funding structure.

912
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 6: You know that the Republican governor who was a travesy

913
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 6: in Alabama, k Ivy can get a you know, a

914
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 6: bucket of funding and only distribute it to white neighborhoods

915
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: or to Republican neighborhoods, who can cause quite ruckus for

916
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: Randall wood Bean a morehouse man who's the mayor there?

917
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 6: Alpha man who's the mayor there? So I just I

918
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: like being able to make that connection. And I'm gonna

919
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 6: tell you all that is a dangerous thing to do.

920
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 6: It's a dangerous thing to give people like Ray a

921
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 6: sense of agency. It's a dangerous thing to tap into

922
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 6: folks who are on the underbelly of society, people who

923
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 6: are returning citizens formally incarcerated. It's a dangerous thing to

924
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 6: do that because they kill that person. You know, that's

925
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 6: the one thing that you can when you start giving

926
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 6: people empowerment, agency and voice, they will come and kill

927
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 6: the person giving them the microphone. They've done it every time,

928
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 6: and I just feel like, then let's be dangerous. You know,

929
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 6: let's be dangerous and tap into this. The thing is

930
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 6: we're dying anyway, you know, We're dying in this land.

931
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like.

932
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I just really quick. I do think there

933
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 5: are a lot of people. I'm thinking about Shaka sing

934
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: Or from the anti Recidivism Collision when he was there.

935
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about Latasha and Cliff with Black Voters, or

936
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: d who's their organizer on the ground in Birmingham, do

937
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: Wanna and Emil who do stuff with Woke. Well, there

938
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: are a lot of people who do this work, who

939
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 5: earned it, and they are still They tried and they

940
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 5: are still they are still living there, still with us.

941
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: And I don't want to suggest to people that if

942
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 5: you go and do this work it is a death sentence.

943
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 5: I think that there is there's hope, there is there's

944
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: covering for those folks.

945
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I also just want I also didn't hear you as

946
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: a literal death. I almost thought of it as you know.

947
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: Like they s.

948
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeahularly, you're just talking to somebody talking about killing.

949
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: So I just I wanted to make sure they were clear.

950
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: But but I will say, Angela, even for life, like

951
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 6: I mean, they have threatened Latasha's life.

952
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: They have like.

953
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: Their experiences, but they are still living and fighting on right.

954
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: So I just am saying I don't want people to

955
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 5: feel like it is an automatic death sentence and thereby

956
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: we're discouraging them from doing the work.

957
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 6: No, definitely, definitely don't mean to be discouraged a target.

958
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: But the thing my point is we're targets anyway, like

959
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 6: they are coming after us anyway. So I don't know,

960
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 6: I just feel like it right now is the time

961
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 6: for radical thought, radical action because and this is where

962
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 6: you and I have talked about Angela's like, I don't

963
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: know that I want to uphold the system that exists,

964
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 6: and so many people have asked me, okay, but what

965
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 6: does that look like? And I can't always answer those questions,

966
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 6: but I know, like just hearing from Ray, And that's

967
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 6: another thing. It's like Ray is the voice we need

968
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 6: in Congress, Like we always talk about, oh, this is

969
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 6: the most diverse Congress, and every Congress it has grown

970
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 6: more diverse. The Tricaucus, which is the Black Caucus, the

971
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 6: AAPI Caucus I'm very small, Indigenous Caucus, and the Latino Caucus.

972
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 6: They've grown in number. But you know, I kind of

973
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 6: say the same thing to my friends. My friends are

974
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 6: very privileged people, and you know, they talk about their

975
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 6: kids going to diverse schools, and I'm like, you're a

976
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 6: kid just go to schools with a bunch of other

977
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 6: wealthy kids of color. You know, they go to wealthy

978
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: white kids, wealthy Black kids, wealthy Latino kids. But when

979
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 6: you talk about diversity of circumstance, diversity of background, diversity

980
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 6: of thought, diversity of socioeconomic status, like that, you want

981
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 6: your kid to be able to go to the hood

982
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 6: and play basketball with everybody and feel just as comfortable

983
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 6: as he is, you know, at the private school basketball court.

984
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: And it's just I think, I don't know.

985
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes there's a disconnect that happens and we get so

986
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 6: like thankful because there is a black face, which is

987
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: not always a black voice and not always somebody you know,

988
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: who understands different circumstances. I think, so, yeah, I don't

989
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 6: mean that today. Don't do it because y'all gonna die.

990
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 6: But I hear your point, Angela with yeah.

991
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: And then moving on to the I think the first

992
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 5: part of what you said, I think the latter part

993
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 5: of what you're saying, I think actually is kind of

994
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: in alignment with what Ray said. And I think with

995
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 5: a lot of us who have family members and friends,

996
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 5: you know, from.

997
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: The hood, grew up in it.

998
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: Whatever the politicians talking don't do, and that is their experience.

999
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 5: And I think that it's really important for us to

1000
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: not say or to say, like you said to Andrew,

1001
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: like well, I'm so glad you were here, but to

1002
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 5: help him understand like he doesn't understand X, Y or Z.

1003
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: What he does understand is his experience. What he can

1004
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: feel is his experience. What he does know is what

1005
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: they're all sharing amongst each other.

1006
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: And I wrestle with this a lot. I'm gonna tell

1007
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: y'all straight up.

1008
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 5: We did the solo pot yesterday and had someone on

1009
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: who didn't want to, who didn't vote in the last

1010
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: two elections, and I found myself trying to hear but

1011
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 5: also arguing, also.

1012
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: Convincing, right tipics we would say.

1013
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 5: And it's hard for me because my experience is so

1014
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 5: remarkably different than the gentleman I was speaking to yesterday,

1015
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 5: and raise I have felt moments that feel identical to Ray.

1016
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: These people right now, I don't know who they serve

1017
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 5: it they talk and not doing they taking away all

1018
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 5: of our stuff. But there are people in Congress who

1019
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 5: I've worked for, who I love, who I text, who

1020
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 5: are fighting against that. But when you're you know, fifty

1021
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: layers removed, what you see is that the powers that

1022
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 5: be are harming you. That is their experience. So even

1023
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 5: if there is one or two or seven who are

1024
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 5: doing the right thing, there's still two hundred who.

1025
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 3: Are, especially in damn Alabama, who are doing the wrong thing.

1026
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: They are trying to erase you with anti DEI measures,

1027
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: They trying to force women to have babies they can't carry,

1028
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 5: They're prosecuting people right. It is crazy. So I want

1029
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: us and I'm saying this because I need help with

1030
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: this too. Let's please find the balance between giving space

1031
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 5: and holding space for the unique experiences of some of

1032
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 5: our brothers and sisters who are different than ours, and

1033
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 5: also encouraging them to engage because their voices need to

1034
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: be to be heard, and also trying to correct where

1035
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: there is mis or disinformation. I think mis or disinformation

1036
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 5: is one thing, but if you ain't felt what we're

1037
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: telling you, that's another thing. And there's it's a fine

1038
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 5: fine line. I am doing a terrible job. I need help.

1039
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 5: But I am watching myself vacillate between what Joe Biden

1040
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 5: gave such a such amount of money to HBC, Like

1041
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, it don't matter if they didn't feel it,

1042
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: if the kids didn't feel it, they still couldn't get

1043
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 5: their financial aid and their pilgrams was still cut.

1044
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: Like that's their.

1045
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Experience, ANGELA motive. Motive to me matters. And I hope

1046
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and I know you're I know I agree with both

1047
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: of you all are saying. And I just want to

1048
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: say my intention and I know you're not talking about me.

1049
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: It's not you're saying that I exhibited this the intention

1050
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: with saying from my perspective as a person who I

1051
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: think has been molded both in the streets through my

1052
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: lived experience, but also who has been in the halls

1053
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: where these decisions get made, that everybody is in moving

1054
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: with the intention of trying to make their statements become

1055
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: a lie. In fact, a lot of folks are moving

1056
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: with intention to make real the promises that they made.

1057
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: It was their vision and it's their aim as well.

1058
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: So my only point is to all of us is

1059
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: not to conclude just because it's said a lot and

1060
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: experienced a lot doesn't make the conclusion you draw the

1061
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: accurate one, and I'm not saying that his is wrong

1062
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: or right. There may be people there with intention to

1063
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: do harm, and in fact, I know that's the case,

1064
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: but there are also people who are there, who are

1065
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: in positions where they can make moves, who are being

1066
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: stopped at every track rod bumps are being erected after

1067
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: bump after bump, because the institution is there to uphold

1068
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: that divide, not the individual, but the institution is there

1069
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: to ensure that that road doesn't get built. I've been

1070
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: on the cybe where stat says, unfortunately, if we do that, sir,

1071
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: we will be approaching a environmentally sensitive area and we

1072
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: cannot put a road through.

1073
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1074
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: Okay, well guess what build the stilts that go over

1075
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: the environmentally sensitive area and will raise the road. Right.

1076
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: But but all that to say that there just as

1077
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: much as there is an energy to see change happen,

1078
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: there is an energy to maintain the status quo. Yeah,

1079
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: And that's the tension that I think we want to

1080
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: at least call out, not to say your issue, your

1081
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: perspective is wrong, or mine's right, to say that there

1082
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: is another way to observe what is happening that you

1083
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: may not know, but it is happening.

1084
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 6: But I guess to Angelo's point, I hear you because

1085
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 6: I think that it and both. I hear both you, guys.

1086
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 6: I think there is a nuance of balance to strike.

1087
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 6: So you know, when we say you know Ray, maybe

1088
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Speaker 6: you don't understand how you know. Maybe your mayor is

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Speaker 6: doing everything he can for you, but you don't understand.

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Speaker 6: It's k I Governor. I got an issue with Governor

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Speaker 6: K Republican woman. She is allocating a billion dollars to

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Speaker 6: build a massive prison there. She is horrible when it

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 6: comes to criminal justice issue, She's awful. But I also,

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00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 6: because I think Angelo, a part of your point is

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Speaker 6: so when Ray shows up and speaks, it can't be well,

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Speaker 6: let's dismiss Ray's experience because you don't understand it can

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Speaker 6: be both and it can be. Yes, to honor your experience.

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Speaker 6: But let me also, especially as a public servant, let

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Speaker 6: me walk you through what I'm dealing with and let

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Speaker 6: me bring you into the process. And I think that's

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Speaker 6: why I try to be so intentional about making sure

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Speaker 6: people understand like it ain't not the wrong of y'all

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Speaker 6: know what the CBO is.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: I remember coming to DC and people was throughout these names.

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00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 6: They're like, oh, go to the ellipse, and I'm like,

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00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 6: what's the ellipse? Where's the ellipse? Like I just wouldn't know,

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: and just how it made me feel. And so it's like,

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Speaker 6: once you start to learn and understand things, that does

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Speaker 6: give you a sense of agency, and it also can't

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00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: be I don't vote, and this is why. And then

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Speaker 6: my immediate response is, well, you should vote. No, let's

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00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 6: understand you, let me hear you, let me so I

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 6: take your point in about just don't deny people their experience.

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Speaker 1: That's it, which is why I would never say I

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: hear you, but right, because that but it negates what

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: came but everything and everything before. I simply want to say,

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: there's another there's another experience to be to be seen here,

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00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and guess what. That's not to say that experience is

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Speaker 1: the right one, but I do I don't want us to.

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Speaker 1: I don't. What I don't want Ray or anybody else

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: to conclude is that elected officials all lie and then

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Speaker 1: they get there and they don't do anything to fulfill

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Speaker 1: the truth they told us. When they were running. My

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Speaker 1: experience has been that you do make promises when you're aspiring.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of us have those promises that are

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00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: well intentioned, hard felt, and we mean to do the

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Speaker 1: thing that we say we mean to do. And then

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Speaker 1: there's the people who also have intention to do what

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00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: they mean to do, and that is to stop you

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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: at every way along the tracks. I bet Mayor with

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Speaker 1: Finan out there saying, let me tell you who stood

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00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: in my way today, and let me tell you who

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00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: stop this. That's not what he's saying, because he's the mayor,

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Speaker 1: so he takes responsibility. But I gotta say I can

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Speaker 1: imagine it would not surprise me if his experience is

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Speaker 1: that at every turn, my job is to disrupt and

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: to discard and to keep you from doing what it

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: is that you told those folks you were going to do,

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: because that's how the institutions survive, by allowing folks out

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00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: there to believe that it is never going to work

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Speaker 1: for them. And if a thing is never going to

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: work for me, you goddamn right, I'm not participating. That's

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Speaker 1: a fool's Errand if I know a thing is never

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: going to work for me, I'm never going to get

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Speaker 1: in incentive to now.

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Speaker 6: My incentivized to participate in this system that harms me everything.

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: And you're telling me yet again, voting is going to

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 6: change it. Well, one mama voted, my grandmama voted, and

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 6: I've still been in the same circumstances for decades. Like that,

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Speaker 6: That is kind of my point about we have to

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00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: give people something to believe in. And I think when

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Speaker 6: we talk about the diversity of Congress, like that's also

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 6: something that we have to think about, like a voice

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Speaker 6: like Rays actually does.

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Speaker 4: Belonging to it does. Congress is supposed to be representative

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Speaker 4: of the people.

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Speaker 6: Then we need a Ray who is in elected office,

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Speaker 6: who is representing a demographic of people that deserve representation,

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Speaker 6: and right now we do not.

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Speaker 4: They keep saying it, we do not have a diverse Congress.

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Speaker 5: And better than I say that Ray don't belong because

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00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 5: he is a convicted feeling because the man sitting in

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Speaker 5: the highest office of the land, in the Oval office,

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Speaker 5: not only had convictions, he got some pendy. So I

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00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 5: don't want to hear another thing. And there's a difference

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Speaker 5: between being a crook who continues to steal and take

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Speaker 5: from all of the American taxpayers, all of the people

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Speaker 5: that contribute to society, and another one who has gone

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Speaker 5: in and is redeemed and understands what time it is

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Speaker 5: so right down.

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what, y'all we got so into the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick down the road the university.

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Speaker 4: It's only we can do.

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Speaker 1: What I wanted to do is to get that next

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Speaker 1: viewer questioning so that uh we can we can respond

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Speaker 1: to that. That's your that's your perch by which.

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Speaker 6: You literally she go kill Anthony's question, you don't die.

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Speaker 1: I was like, they still living.

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Speaker 3: To get your hand out my bucket, like.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad corrected me.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like, well those timeus with Andrew production

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Speaker 5: time out.

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Speaker 3: You're not you're not doing what you think you're doing. Andrew.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not doing what you think you're doing.

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Speaker 3: That not today, but that time.

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Speaker 1: Into the video. Thank you, Nick.

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Speaker 7: Greetings that lampard.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luclator.

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Speaker 11: I hail from Shaker Heights, Ohio, where I currently serve

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Speaker 11: on the City Council. Longtime listener and fan, First time

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Speaker 11: submitting a video and a question, and I want to

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Speaker 11: ask you all if you could take some time to

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Speaker 11: talk to listeners about the elections that are on the

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Speaker 11: ballot this year. As we talk about Welcome Home FAU,

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Speaker 11: we want to make sure that people understand close to home,

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Speaker 11: there are a lot of elections going on this year,

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Speaker 11: and how we can have our voices heard, what issues

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Speaker 11: those offices are responsible for, so we know we can

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Speaker 11: work on the changes that.

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Speaker 1: We want to see in our communities.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: On his shirt was no, I couldn't read those Greek letters.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a pie in there.

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Speaker 3: It wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's a pie at the end.

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Speaker 7: But we do for.

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Speaker 3: Maybe to ask Greek for shakers.

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Speaker 1: I guess, let's not guess, let's not guess. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole there's probably a constituency of folks who know exactly

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Speaker 1: what exactly Well, when you know, you know, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't, just keep it. I don't know, Tiffany, y'all

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Speaker 1: just corrected because I was, of course a little nervous

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Speaker 1: about the Greek lettering that I didn't know and google

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Speaker 1: them and Angela, but that was.

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Speaker 6: My new pie. That was fine, new pie on his sweatshirt.

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Speaker 6: So sorry if you Tiff is.

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Speaker 3: An unofficial Kappa Sweetheart and she's corrected.

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Speaker 6: Lord, you know I'm gonna hear from Albert and all

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Speaker 6: my so my apology.

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Speaker 1: You should have trusted your gut if you knew that

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Speaker 1: was my new PI. You should have said you.

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Speaker 2: Want to.

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Speaker 3: A cap of bow tie?

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Speaker 1: Get that man like that nice.

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Speaker 3: A nice lots is all nicely pixelated.

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Speaker 1: Clearly that unaffiliated people to a Greek letter, which is

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Speaker 1: why we don't know.

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Speaker 4: So, yes, what I wanted to local election?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, and targeting.

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Speaker 1: I was targeting. All I was saying. All I was

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Speaker 1: saying was this last This, this podcast and our conversation

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Speaker 1: just now with Ray should be really instructive for those

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Speaker 1: at the local level who are running for public office

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Speaker 1: and around. I think how we should be talking about

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Speaker 1: these issues and who we ought to be trying to

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Speaker 1: reach an advance of an election. That it is extremely

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Speaker 1: challenging to convince people to take an action and pforative

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: and support of a system that they don't feel seen,

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: heard supported by, and in fact the exact opposite, feel

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: demonized by, made small and quite frankly, uh see it

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Speaker 1: as an enemy, a thing that works against them, that

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01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: works against their needs. And so my recommendation would be one.

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Speaker 1: Take good listen at what we just what we just

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01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: heard again from from our good brother Ray, and let

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01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: that dictate how you move and campaigning and talking to

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: folks in and trying to recruit people to participate in

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: a local election that right now they may not very

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01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: much believe in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think even just an understanding of a

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Speaker 6: lot of the ballot initiatives. You know, we've said on

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Speaker 6: this show before, that's where a lot of this shitty

1253
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 6: policy bubbles up from at the state and local level.

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Speaker 6: State legislatures often introduce bills that land in the United

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Speaker 6: States Congress, and they create narratives and storylines and fake

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Speaker 6: culture wars. And certainly I didn't I was born not

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Speaker 6: too far from Shaker Heights. Our good brother Wes Lowry

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Speaker 6: is from Shaker Heights. And so there are a lot

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Speaker 6: of challenges in Cleveland. I mean that is just Ohio

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Speaker 6: as a state. This is a space where the population

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Speaker 6: is declining, the steel industry left, and a lot of

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Speaker 6: people are struggling. There a lot of rays in even

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 6: so Yeah, maybe we can I don't know how to

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 6: highlight this, but maybe we can start highlighting some of

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01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 6: some local things every week. Maybe one of us can

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01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 6: highlight something locally that's happening that hasn't happened already. That's

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Speaker 6: like maybe on the ballot or somebody trying rather it's

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Speaker 6: school board, city count If.

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Speaker 4: Y'all want to do that, Yeah, people, we don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Do it here.

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Speaker 4: We can always do it on our on our instagram.

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Speaker 1: Many individuals or individual social But I do think it

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: is important to illuminate that good things can happen. Good

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: good policy has come out of some places and start

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Speaker 1: to highlight the fact that there are there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of places where the government that you hired, that

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Speaker 1: you elected is working toward your good and because it's true,

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people are not if they're not experiencing it,

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01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: is it really true? If that's not my experience, did

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Speaker 1: it really happen?

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Speaker 4: That was Angelo's point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, everybody. We have CTA's coming up right

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Speaker 5: after at this break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think we can do CTAs.

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, although and we got a mini file coming up

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Speaker 1: which we're going.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, which I want to talk about on me.

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Speaker 3: You want to do HPC.

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Speaker 4: Where does everybody seen centers?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Andrew, Hey, I'm involved in a very time sensitive.

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Speaker 5: Andrew, go to the movies for two hours and twenty

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Speaker 5: five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Leave.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a movie theater, and who knows when.

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Speaker 5: You go see this movie it is, but it's all

1298
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: talking about it's gonna be old.

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Speaker 1: Go today, y'all start, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it for me and give you ten dollars

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Speaker 3: for your movies.

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Speaker 6: You need a babysitter, I need the time two tickets

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Speaker 6: of center.

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Speaker 1: Baby, I'm with you right now, and when I hang up,

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Speaker 1: I will be going to get them and take them

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Speaker 1: to math, tutoring and the other.

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Speaker 3: Baby me like airline, he trum, like my child.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I'll go now. I'm gonna go now. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all can talk about it in the mini.

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Speaker 12: All right, well we can talk about HBCUs and yeah,

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Speaker 12: what's your CT But what about wait before we get

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Speaker 12: it at what about hbc Oh, because fam you is

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Speaker 12: trying to put.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of a presidential search. Angela has served,

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Speaker 1: you know, serves on the board of an HBCU. I've

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: served on the board before. There you also attended along,

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, as long as I you the threats are real,

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: and I just want to dig in a little bit

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: to what what's the what shape they're.

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Speaker 4: Taking in particular because you're president.

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: And we've got you know, a Republican you know, a

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01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: board that has been shaped by Republicans for the last

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty plus years, and the tactics that we're seeing at

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: the national level, fear retribution, those kinds of things are

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: rearing their heads in some ways. And and I just

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: want folks to know that how that attitude of if

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: you're not with me, you're against me, there is no

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: side but one side or the other is it's filtrating

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: down through the system that even something as pure as

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: our educational system and finding good people to lead them

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: is now you know, out the window in sake of

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: trying to move a political agenda and a political aim,

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01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: not the aim of an HBC, you know, the rich

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: legacy they have toward you know, greater outcomes. And I

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 1: think that's real dangerous.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well we'll talk about that on the mini pot

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 6: co coch I have a CTA please, it's really like

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 6: a testimony. So my friend Jackie Reid, who y'all may

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 6: remember from BT News, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: She called me.

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 6: She had a little puppy pit bull that needed rescuing,

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01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 6: and our esteem colleague Michael Harriet and his wife took

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01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 6: in that baby, and my CTA is, please adopt, don't

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 6: shop there or somebody was keeping this poor dog tied

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 6: up outside all day and she literally went over there

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 6: and just got the dog and had the dog in

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 6: her house and.

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01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: Was trying to find it.

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: Yes, but she was removing a dog from harm.

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: And she has seven fosters in her house right now,

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 6: So please adopt.

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: Don't you have to call right she told the one.

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 6: The woman didn't even care. She ended up telling the woman,

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01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 6: I'm just checking, but she didn't kidnap. I just appreciate

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 6: Jackie for getting that dog out of a bad situation

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 6: and loving animals enough that she has seven fosters in

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 6: her house right now. And if I know somebody's kind

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: to an animal and loves an animal like, I know

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 6: they're a good person.

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: Did you guys just hear my stomach?

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: Nope, because I was doing my CPA.

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: It's very hard.

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 6: So anyway, my whole cta adopt, don't shop, Please donate

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: to your local shelter, ASPCA, Human Humane Society.

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 4: All of that, please do.

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01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: That all right, Angela, you got one.

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01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: My stomach got one.

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 5: Apparently, if you hungry eat, make sure that you are

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01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 5: spiritually fed, you are emotionally fed.

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01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 3: You are fed.

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 5: And one of the places where I plan to eat

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 5: well and participate this weekend is in New Orleans, Southern Louisiana.

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: I got family, Ay, you a douche. I'm gonna go

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: down there. I'm gonna eat real good.

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01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna see morrows in New Orleans, and I'm looking

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: forward to that. If you guys have not paid attention,

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 5: please follow State of THEPPO dot com register, sign up, participate,

1378
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 5: get involved.

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 3: The black Papers are out doctor David John's.

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01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 5: Under his direction, we have twenty five, no i think

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 5: now twenty eight policy papers that will be released under

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 5: the Black Papers banner. Make sure you check them out.

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 5: That will become our agenda. So I invite you all

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 5: in to be spiritually fed and actually fed, just like

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01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 5: I'm about to eat.

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Speaker 6: For Also, all the people who leave comments who are

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 6: like Angela, please drink tea.

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 4: Angela, please just get rest.

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 6: Show up in New Orleans and lay eyes on the

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 6: antelo yourself and bring her bring her some yeah, bringing some.

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: Tea, bringing some beignets. Don't touch her, but bring her.

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01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: You won't mute?

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01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: Answer what you want?

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: Mute?

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01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 4: Why is she onna mute?

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh lord, she don't want her stomach?

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01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 5: No, I was, I didn't. I didn't realize it was.

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01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 5: I think I muted it instead the mudia. But I

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 5: was gonna say definitely, please don't touch me. You don't

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 5: have to bring me no beignets, because I have sanitary

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: issues too. I'd be worried about the chain of how

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01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 5: many people touch the food.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: I apologize y'all just hugged though for the most part.

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: Just don't put all your underarm juice on top of them.

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01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 6: I don't like shaking us today.

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Speaker 1: For a Native Lampire. You guys are fist bumps.

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Speaker 4: But I'm hugging.

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Speaker 3: Is it is mine too? I meant bump.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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