WEBVTT - 9021One on One: Tracy Middendorf 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.520 It's nine oh gene one with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:10.440 Amy. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.200 Guess what today? What we have a very special guest. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:15.760 In the house. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.160 I know, I can't wait. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.799 We're doing nine oh two one on one with Tracy Mittendorf. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.040 You guys, you know she played Laura Kingman in season four. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.440 She was good, the bad, the good, the bad, so confusing. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:34.239 I'm really excited to talk to her. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:39.120 Her character wigs me out, but her performance is incredible. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.600 I know. Okay, so let's do this. Let's talk to her. Hi, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.800 you guys, this is this is like a reunion because 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:53.120 I haven't seen you in thirty years. Is that right? Yeah, 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.640 my god, it's so good to see you. A you 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:02.000 look exactly the same. No, it's crazy, it's mild, very sweet. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.080 Really excited to talk to you because we've been in 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.759 the thick of all things Laura Kingman on the Pod 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.440 in season four and we loved you and we hated 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.080 you and all the things in between, and so you're 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.280 just such a good actress. Let's just say that right 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.000 out of the gate. Oh no, you're sweet. Thank you. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:29.800 I you know, I hesitated about doing this simply because 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.720 it's been thirty years and going back and looking at 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.440 my work from thirty years ago, it's just horrifying. I mean, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.520 I don't know how you're doing it right on the show. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.440 But we grow and we and we don't always like 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.800 to look back and see we do grow. You and 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.400 I think we're the same age. Yeah, yeah, And I 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.520 at this point have developed that developed that like I 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.120 don't give an f you know, like I'm just so 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.480 when I watched show back, I'm so tickled and like 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.160 stoked that that's me. And I appreciate it in such 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.640 a different way now than I ever could before because 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.639 I do share that like hate to watch myself think. Yeah. Also, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.120 and honestly, I'm doing this because I just have so 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.200 much respect for you and for Tori. You were both 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.919 like badass women moms. You know, I'm working moms. I 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.600 just think that's incredible. And you were just so sweet 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.240 to me on the show and you didn't need to be. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.000 It was my first show I did. I was right 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.480 out of college. I did the soap for one year 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.040 and then you did a lot of the soap just 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.760 a year one year, But how many episodes is that? Is? That? 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:46.000 All? 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.480 I was full on in that. I mean, they because 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.000 I replaced a character, so they had me working. Was 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.000 that days of our lives? 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.280 Was that days of our lives? 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:59.440 Yeah? Okay, yeah, And so it was they moved me 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.800 out from New York. I was all of a sudden, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.280 three cameras, you know what am I doing? And so, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.360 I mean that was really good training ground though it was, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.440 it was, and I was glad to get off it. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.440 I mean, one year's enough. And then I was on 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.600 this show that was I think it was the height 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:18.960 of its popularity too. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:19.440 It was. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.079 Yeah, and you. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.600 Came in right after the summer, right when we went 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:26.840 to college. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.240 Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, you guys were just so 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.799 sweet to me, and I really appreciated that. I never 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.720 forgot it, so fondest I thank you. First of all, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.920 I had the fondest memories of working eat with you too, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.800 and just I remember just then just watching your work 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.720 and just being inspired by it and learning from just Honestly, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.160 I wouldn't say that if I didn't mean it. I 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.360 think you're a really good actress. Thank you. Thank Okay, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.480 enough with that, But anyways, Amy, I was telling you 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.480 I saw Tracy on my TV two nights ago and 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.480 what was that? It was you. I've just started to 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:10.840 watch for the first time the Dead People's show with 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.400 the dead guy. He makes the dead people look good? 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:23.599 What's it called with the funerals? Yeah? That too? Thank you? Yeah, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.880 I was. That was one of my favorite gigs I have. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.080 I have a track record of opening really successful series. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.839 I'm not on them all the time. I'm just on 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.560 the first episode and I remember that. Yeah. I sat 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.719 it next to Alan Ball, who was the creator of 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.320 that show, who also did American Beauty. He's this incredible 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.599 writer director, And I went to like an orphan's Easter 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.800 dinner at a friend's house in la and he's from 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.760 Georgia and I'm from Georgia and we sat next to 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.520 each other and he was on the Sybil Shepherd's show 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.560 at the time, and then he started writing sixteen a 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.560 hundred me in for that and I so wanted the part. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.840 And it took a week to hear back and then 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.960 you know, it was It was a It was a 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.279 dream job. The writing was so good and it's a 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.440 great show. I wish I had done more of the 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.159 funny me too. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.920 Can you remember how you got the part? On nine 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:17.520 O two one? Zero. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.720 So I was trying to think about that because I 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.280 didn't know what I was going to talk about because 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.760 it's been so long. Oh don't you worry. I've got 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:31.760 a questions, You've got stuff. So something I do vividly remember, 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.080 and I'm pretty sure it was nine o two one 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:40.400 oh's audition was a room full of people and Aaron 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.160 Spelling was there, and just a ton of producers and directors. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.040 And that's when back then, that's when you used to 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.080 used to go in for everybody. You didn't go on tape. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.479 You you went into a room with a bunch of 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:57.440 people staring at you, staring at you. So I think 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.360 that it was for a NATO. It might have been 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.240 Meloe's place, but I think it was nine or two. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.160 And I tell actors that all the time, young actors. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.280 When I was I did a series for MTV, Scream, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.680 and I was the oldest one on the show everyone 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.200 else for you know, the twenty something kids, And I 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.240 would tell them that that's the one I would bring 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.240 up is that as actors, we used to go in 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.520 and we used to read with casting directors with their assistants. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.480 We used to meet the director. We used to meet 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:32.159 the producers, the showrunners, and audition for them, and we 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.080 don't do that anymore. We go on tape or it's 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.960 maybe a casting director, and then we never hear anything. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:40.720 Just here. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.200 Oh you don't hear if you don't happened. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.240 Like it never happened, just out there. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.880 And so your feeling right. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.360 Your job is just the audition basically until you get 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:52.719 the job. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.760 See why they had a room full of people there, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.520 including Aaron, because this part is so important. If the 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:07.200 person didn't do it right, it would literally have ruined 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.080 what is such a major arc in this season. It 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.560 was so crucial that they get it right, and I 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.960 think they did. I mean, i'll tell you stories as 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.360 we talk, but you nailed it. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:20.840 I have to tell you. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.160 I didn't know it was going to be because because 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.400 I was only booked for those first three episodes, and 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.960 I felt, Okay, I've experienced college, I know what that 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:38.120 environment's like. I can do this. What was terrifying was 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.240 when they brought me back and handed me. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.440 The script most unhinged gal around. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.800 Not only that, I so I do a lot of 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:58.280 a theater and I'm I love Tennessee Williams and being 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:06.160 given this monologue from one of the most beautiful plays 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.960 ever written for the American theater was terrifying. And I 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.200 had like four or five days to do it. And 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.800 so when I look when I look at those scenes, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.000 which I just did for the first time in thirty years, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:30.240 and I all I saw was this young, scared actress 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:36.360 trying to do justice to this beautiful play. And I 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:43.400 think I tried a little too. I love you. No 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.160 you didn't. First of all, I should have pulled back. No, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.160 you should never ever pull back. That's my theory, right, 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.240 because that's a little bit. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.800 It was a little big, But you weren't doing You 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:59.160 were Tracy doing Tennessee Williams. You were Tracy being Laura, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.240 Laura doing Tennessee Williams. And that was the same thing 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.040 we talked about with Jenny, because Jenny was Kelly and 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.160 then Kelly doing it. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.480 It's like, that's but. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.080 Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna ask you this, Uh, Jenny, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.560 do you feel like, oh, I'm going to make the 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.280 choice that my character is a bad actress. It's very 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.320 hard to make that choice. You'd make the choice that 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.600 you're did you ask yourself that before you did the scene? Oh? 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:27.040 Hell yeah? 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.599 I was did you prepare as a bad actress or 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.800 a good actress? No, because then they were just saying 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:36.679 Tracy's a bad actress. You may announce everybody. I just 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.880 want you all to know that I've made a choice, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:44.120 a choice that she's going to be bad you that 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.560 I'm going to use that now you should. I think 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.840 I'll use it too, really, dots all the actually thought 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.800 I actually thought you were quite lovely when I was 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.160 watching it, and I watched your audition with him. Although 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.079 he was creepy, I mean, it was painful. I can 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.719 I can feel your pain because you just reminded me 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.840 I did it too. Did that have audition for her? 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.600 If they tried to do that episode today, First of all, 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.560 he would be rested for having a young actress come 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.120 and you know, even letting her into his house to 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:26.480 a he was. But I thought you were quite lovely, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.800 and I thought honestly that if I was to cast it, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:34.680 I didn't necessarily think that Shannon would have been the actress. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:39.240 But she was the type that makes sense. She's you know, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.200 sexy and kind of grounded, and that's kind of that's 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.320 Maggie the cat to me. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:11:02.000 Totally, these were all y'all's best episodes, because Shannon is 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.920 amazing in these episodes too, because you know, I'm I know, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.439 Tory's so disappointed to not be here, so you got 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.280 stuck with me. But I watched it as a fan, 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.720 so we weren't like judging your work. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.400 In Tennessee Williams kat on a honton roof, We're like, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.160 oh my god, Laura has lost it. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:29.080 When you're up on this scaffolding anybody, everybody, you guys, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.719 I don't know if you watched it. I'm sure they did. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.319 They're listening now, but you got to watch it. It's 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.839 so good. It's so good, and then it's so confusing too. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.240 And you must have felt this way when you read 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.200 the script. It in the beginning for the first three episode, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.440 you were accusing Steve Sanders, and then you came back 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.880 and you then you're hooking up with them and he's 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.760 your biggest supporter. Yeah, and why he trust me, I'm 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:56.000 not that's such a lot. Yeah, that was That's not 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.600 on me. That's not I'm sure not on him either, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.640 because I yeah, it just didn't it wasn't very consistent. Yeah, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.839 they made it there. Yeah, they made a leap. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.400 They really needed you, They needed you for all this. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.800 It was like a big arc in the season and 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:16.319 that's often too wanted to become an actress and then 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.120 going off. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.920 To London, right, Oh, is that what happened? You didn't 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.000 watch after your episode? 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:24.360 What I can say. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.559 And that's why I was so excited to talk to 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.240 you today because I was probably nineteen at the time 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.240 when I was watching this, because we're all about the 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.960 same age, so we were in college watching this, like 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.480 you said at the height, And what I found so 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.720 interesting is I saw you obviously go on to do 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.760 other things, and every time I would see you on screen, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.520 I would get like ooh, because it was so ingrained 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.240 in me that character. And I think it was the 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.839 first time we sort of saw someone We saw it 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.079 a little bit with Christina Elise, but somebody that was 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.200 like a bit unhinged, and it was sort of like 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.120 my first experience with that. And that's why I thought, 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.840 I mean, now, maybe look back with different eyes. But 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.520 then I was just like sucked in, like this is 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.240 what happens if a girl kind of goes off the 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.680 edge or gets too obsessed with something. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.000 And I just it took me a while. I'm scary. Yes, like, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.040 I'm so happy to see you today because you really 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.160 are nothing like Laura you look. But it was like, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.440 that's stuck with. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.640 Me, and that means I also most of the things, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.040 I've died a lot in a lot of different things too, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.600 so that's traumatic. It really kind of does leave an imprint. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.640 I'm not just the viewer, but I'll see the actor. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.680 you know, I had totally I'd forgotten a lot of 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:49.160 that last scene, so it was interesting to watch it again. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.679 I mean, I don't know how you're doing it. Are 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.400 you Are you not watching the next episode? Are you 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.760 trying to refresh yourself as you go along? Is that 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:57.400 what's happening. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.040 Yeah, we're just watching an episode by episodes, so we're 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.199 at the end of season. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.760 For any of them. That must ain't telling me about it. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.040 She was taking a while when she took this show 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.160 on that there were ten seasons. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.720 Well, and there's like thirty episodes or thirty two or something. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.040 They don't do that anymore. I mean, it's running podcasts 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:26.000 ever in the world. Yeah. It's wonderful though, but I 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.400 can imagine you do forget a lot of them because 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:29.480 I forgot all of them. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.480 Yes, well that's what's so funny too, because. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.160 I watched it, you know, I was the fan. We 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.320 were all in soo already watching it, and then I've 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.520 kind of dabbled it watching it again. But your character 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:46.760 is unforgettable. And I wonder how long did people recognize 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.480 you from nine oh two one oh after you did it? 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.240 I mean that must have been crazy. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.840 I just got it last like three weeks ago. Someone 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.920 in the airport, Well what happened? I said, are you serious? 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:00.320 He said, what you say? 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.600 What they say? You said, you're from nine to two? 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.120 And oh, I said, are you kidding me? I said, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.920 when did you watch that? Because he was younger than us, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.880 and he said, oh, no that I think he's there 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.640 rewatching it. He and his girlfriend are rewatching all of it. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.320 And he recognized me from that. I couldn't believe it. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.320 I mean I did, but I got it a lot 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.160 right after the show aired, and I got it a 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.480 lot from I don't know if you had this, but 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:31.200 from like basketball players who were in the locker room, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.040 or you know, like weird like crazy. You know, I 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.080 thought you were going to say prisoners. No, I had that. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.760 That was more than So that was a lot. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.720 I got a lot of Yeah, Days of Our Lives 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.080 would be a major one too. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.200 Oh my god, that's hilarious basketball players. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.560 Okay, So did you play her the same in each arc? 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:55.200 Because the first version of Laura, you know, it's almost 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.160 like she just got worse by the second. So did 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.840 you have to come in and play her a bit 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.160 more over the top for the second. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.520 Set of episodes? She almost sort of redeemed herself in 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.120 the first set, and I was like, oh, I'm cool 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:09.520 with her. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.080 Yeah this round, I was like, yeah, we don't know 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.440 what Steve did. Like we kind of talked about this 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.360 when your first set of episodes aired because it was 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.200 so fascinating. They showed your perspective and his, and we 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.400 assume the truth was somewhere sort of in the middle. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:26.680 Mm hmm. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.560 But that then she comes back and she's very you know, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:33.240 really frightened. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:38.240 Yeah. Uh, I had to be honest with you. I 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.000 struggled with it was a hard It was hard. Those 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.160 first three episodes were hard because you're having to kind 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.440 of I had to believe that it was true and 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:56.000 my version was true, but I also struggled as a 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.960 woman that so many women in the nineties in college, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.000 probably ninety percent of them don't report being raped, you 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:10.240 know at that time, and that the show is choosing 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:14.480 to focus on the male being the victim. I really 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.000 struggled with that a bit, just as a woman, So 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.800 as an actress, I went in with you know, I 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:28.440 didn't fully say yes, I'm confused and vulnerable. And then 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:34.600 so when that progressed, I chose that her being lost 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.520 and alone in college, that just made it worse. And 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:43.600 so when she shows up again and later in the season, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.800 she has been alone a lot. She doesn't have a 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:52.080 lot of friends, and I think I think Iron's character 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.960 was somebody that she could convince. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.440 Interesting she came back for your fourth episode, let's say, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:08.120 Lara part two, that were you up to something when 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:09.480 you came back, like straight. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.119 Out of the gate? No not, I think I mean 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.960 because he finds me in the episode he comes into 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.679 my room in the beginning of the second time I 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:24.040 came back. So I think I think there was legitimately 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.040 trying to do this play to somehow find some footing, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:30.840 to find some places. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.439 Yeah, but so weird. You're right that she would even allow, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.160 you know, allow him to get close to her again 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.439 if that had. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.280 Been and vice versa. But I think they had some guilt. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.480 Like I might be going way to like the psychology 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.920 of these characters, but like Laura has some guilt over 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:54.400 what she maybe she misinterpreted what was happening or had 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.800 her perspective and then it became this hold to do. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.879 And he has guilt because he does it. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.919 Admit he shouldn't have done what he did, even though 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:09.320 it wasn't necessarily quote rape or criminal, it was he 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.800 knew he had celested, and there was the whole thing. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.639 So he's got guilt, which is why I think it 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.560 was a perfect storm. You two connected because of this past, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:23.040 and then it just spirals and he almost causes the spiral, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.440 not exactly, but he doesn't, you know, bring you down 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.240 and say wait a minute, or did you call Brenda 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.840 and do this about the rehearsal. It's like he's so 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.920 in with you, probably from the guilt, that it exasperates 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:39.360 this messiness. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:44.360 Right, Yeah, it got really messy. I think I think 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:49.800 obviously the characters unhinged otherwise to go there so quickly 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.120 over not getting the part, or you know, I think 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:59.639 already confused and lost and struggling in college and alone, 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.480 and then Okay, this is going to solve everything. I'm 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.239 going to do this play. I'm going to get this 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.639 part and work my ass off on it, and I'm gonna, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.080 you know, nail it and should have gotten it. And 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:15.000 then and legitimately feeling like, wait, what happened? How did 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.480 she all of a sudden get the part when she 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.879 bombed the audition? And right, so that's legitimate confusion. And 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:30.640 then he was, you know, guilty of seducing his leading ladies. 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.880 And then to find out that she went to his house. 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.680 So it all those pieces to defend her, that character, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.000 all those you and she wasn't the only one saying 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.399 it so right, you know, so you know, yes, she 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:50.960 made it worse and then totally went off the deep end. Right, 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.159 who directed? Do you remember? Who was that James? That 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.760 house that directed? Do you have any section one of them? 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.119 Maybe that maybe that last one? I don't remember. I 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.560 don't know. I just was wondering because, especially with the 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.520 last couple episodes, you had so much like work to 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.080 You had to really prepare stuff and bring it in 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:18.120 and sometimes on an episodic show like this, it gets 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.520 a little like you know, the director doesn't really step 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.560 up and help or support the way they could with 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.800 an actress, especially when they have stuff this heavy. I 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.919 was just wondering if if you remember any like people 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.320 that supported you or helped you, or like, you know, 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:42.680 made it up. I don't. I don't for those episodes. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.200 I do remember a director and I can't remember his 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:49.640 name on the earlier episodes being very kind and thoughtful 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.320 and trying to help me through a moment this one, 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.399 this one, I think I was just, you know, I 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:04.160 was so focused on trying to as an actor, trying 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.040 to nail that arc and try to make sense of it. 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.240 And you must know this so well. When you're on 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:16.760 a series, you almost have to be director proof because 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.880 can you take from the good and hopefully you get 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.320 really good ones, but there's bad ones out there that 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.080 tell you to do things that just aren't write for 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.640 your character, especially if in an episodic. They're coming in 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:31.560 for each show. You're on the show every episode, so 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:37.080 you want your character you understand, and sometimes it's a 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.080 good thing and you do know your character. I've definitely 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.439 worked on series where the ego is really big and 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.520 they just won't do anything the director says, well, they 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:52.160 just focus on the guest star because that that regular 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.960 will not do anything, and that's got to be frustrating 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:56.600 for a director. 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.400 Well, and this character is so complicated. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:15.200 This isn't like Sorority Girl one, you know number two, 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.159 Like if this didn't go, if you didn't do it 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.240 right and have that support you needed, it could have 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:25.960 derailed multiple episodes. That's why I think there was so 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.600 much pressure on this character because you became the forefront 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:30.600 of this episode. 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.200 And again, it could have been clowny if you didn't 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.960 do it right, or like too soapy or I. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.280 Mean, we got you to play this role because you're right, 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:44.800