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Speaker 1: love Saquon and wishing nothing but the best. Joe, Ryan

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Speaker 1: so I guess it would be twenty five years ago. He

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Speaker 1: you're getting a hard worker, you're getting a really good leader,

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Speaker 1: You're getting a hell of an evaluator, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a really good move by you know, coach Rabel and

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Speaker 1: do a good job for you guys. Joe here, you

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Speaker 1: made the decision pick what don't you keep it or created?

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