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Speaker 1: excited to be here with you. We uh, I guess

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're officially in an offseason show now, but there

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Speaker 1: is some football to talk about. We got to see

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Speaker 1: the rookies last week on the field on Friday, got

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Speaker 1: wasn't the rookies that stood out Paul, it was Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 1: Just how interesting it was watching Mike Rabel jump from

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Speaker 4: So this will a surprise. No one like that specific

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Speaker 4: really interested in is the stuff that you talked about initially,

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Speaker 8: It didn't work out. But yeah, I'm like picking and

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Speaker 8: Never forget that video out.

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Speaker 4: No, I thought we were trying to encourage them to.

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Speaker 1: Chokes, I came. I even made notes today, so we

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Speaker 1: have things to talk about. Uh. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: Mackay Butler as well as Isaiah Eaton, and they officially

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Speaker 4: He's the ninety first guy. Uh. And they did release

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Speaker 8: There's a time in track where we started doing going

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Speaker 4: I felt bad for Tatum.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long run.

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Speaker 4: I'm in trouble. I'm gonna be out for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah see, I haven't really seen any updates.

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Speaker 1: It's good though. I'm the host so I can grill

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Speaker 4: I just I'm a bomb tosser.

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Speaker 1: Is it over? Is it over? People? Can the Celtics

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Speaker 4: To the fan, I think they might.

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Speaker 8: Rally one game in honor of Tatum, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Just the death rattle this What is it tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: No, it's adding injury to insult, Isn't it? Like that's

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure we'll get plenty of Evan tomorrow. It

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Speaker 4: Day off, and the day today day. I like those

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Speaker 1: The game was last night or it's tonight, either way,

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Speaker 1: and outs plenty to say. Give us a call though,

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Speaker 1: eight five to five, Pats five hundred, send us an email,

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Speaker 1: you guys. So some big stuff also going on this week.

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Speaker 1: We've got the schedule coming out tomorrow. That's big news.

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Speaker 1: Many people in this building right now working on our

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Speaker 1: And what do you guys think about the schedule anything

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Speaker 1: we know now? It doesn't look like no international games

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Speaker 4: I think he's okay. I think he makes too many

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why, but that's what Fred said.

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Speaker 8: I remember looking at him too and being like that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got they had Donald and Baker Mayfield

439
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Speaker 1: there at the same time, and they couldn't get either

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Speaker 1: one of those guys to work. It's just funny how

441
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Speaker 1: you look back on some of those things.

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Speaker 8: Situation is everything.

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Speaker 1: We're just sharing a story I shared with Paul. I'm

444
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Speaker 1: doing a little digging on the eighty five season for

445
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Speaker 1: some stuff we're writing for for Game Day magazine this year,

446
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Speaker 1: and was watching the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

447
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Speaker 1: where Steve de Burg's in at quarterback and they're showing

448
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Speaker 1: Steve Young on the sidelines that they like, they can't

449
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Speaker 1: put him in yet. I guess they did. Did he

450
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Speaker 1: come over like midyear or something. I don't remember us

451
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Speaker 1: from the USFL, but express it's you look at this

452
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Speaker 1: and it's you got a Hall of Fame quarterback sitting

453
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. But I could just like you get

454
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Speaker 1: your head ringing. You're like your voice ringing in my

455
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Speaker 1: ear as I'm like, no, we can't, we can't play him.

456
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Speaker 4: Steve de Berg, we got we gotta ride it down

457
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Speaker 4: to st Berger.

458
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Speaker 1: Gross.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just that that's another example, though, where

460
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Speaker 4: you know the fit and where you go, Like you

461
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Speaker 4: just mentioned Mayfield in Donald or Carolina, And I'm not

462
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Speaker 4: saying either one of those guys is Tom Brady two

463
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Speaker 4: point zero, Okay, but they've both last year demonstrated that

464
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Speaker 4: if you if you surround them with some structure, their

465
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Speaker 4: competent NFL quarterbacks. Okay, maybe Donald isn't as good as

466
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Speaker 4: he looked for most of the year and he kind

467
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Speaker 4: of regressed to the mean by the end of the season,

468
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Speaker 4: but he showed you that he can play the position

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Speaker 4: at least at an average level.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: In Carolina, they look neither one of those guys looked

472
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Speaker 4: like they couldn't even play anymore. Yeah, and now that

473
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Speaker 4: you know they were both leading playoff teams last year.

474
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Speaker 4: That's on Carolina. I'm sorry, that's not the two quarterbacks faults.

475
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Speaker 4: They showed you if they get to an organization that

476
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Speaker 4: has an idea of how to win games, they can

477
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Speaker 4: win games.

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Speaker 1: What itever occurred to you when we were watching those

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Speaker 1: guys that like, man, you guys, you guys be a

480
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Speaker 1: lot better off if you could swap Mac Jones for

481
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Speaker 1: either one of those guys right now. I mean, maybe

482
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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to your point of did the

483
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Speaker 1: Patriots have the infrastructure around the quarterback to let them

484
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Speaker 1: have that success that they've had. I mean you look

485
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Speaker 1: at what Baker Mayfield has.

486
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Speaker 4: And yeah, they do have talent.

487
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Speaker 1: Donald had talent last year too.

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Speaker 4: You know Tampa, you know, with with Evans and Godwin

489
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Speaker 4: and then Minnesota obviously with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison

490
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Speaker 4: was just that makes a big difference. They what do

491
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Speaker 4: they have in Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no one really Adam to the corpse

493
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Speaker 1: of out Adam Thielen I think is of course.

494
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Speaker 4: That's all they got, disrespectful to Adam Bailey.

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Speaker 1: go places Sure resurrecting resurrecting Fred's thing.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's too soon to jump over

502
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Speaker 1: to the phones here, but it's never too soon too soon.

503
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Speaker 1: But I'm feeling like a little trip down to Providence. Hey, Randy,

504
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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 11: How the girl?

507
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Speaker 6: Guys?

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Speaker 11: I'm all right.

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Speaker 10: I had one question and a couple. Uh. Well, I

510
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Speaker 10: guess two questions. Kind of do you guys catch any

511
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Speaker 10: of the there's like some post draft news, you know.

512
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Speaker 10: And I thought it was a little bit confirming of

513
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Speaker 10: the peck right because Mason Graham he looked, it looked

514
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Speaker 10: really rough, you know, his practices in Cleveland and then

515
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Speaker 10: like and he had kind of been an option that

516
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Speaker 10: people had kind of kicked around. I didn't think it

517
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Speaker 10: was seriously given they had already invested in Milan Williams.

518
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Speaker 10: But my question about the practices the other guy was

519
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Speaker 10: about Trade Brown Henderson.

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Speaker 6: Did he ever make it.

521
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Speaker 10: Into the rookie medicamp because he wasn't there the first day?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And do.

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Speaker 10: You guys know why he wasn't there? And is that

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Speaker 10: something to be you know, concerned about going forward? Was

525
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Speaker 10: it contract related? Was it injury related?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He was he was out there the next day

527
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Speaker 1: we put out some pictures in practicing. I don't know exactly.

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Speaker 1: It might have just been contract related, like working out

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Speaker 1: some final details. Maybe that's just me speculating, but it

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Speaker 1: seemed like they signed all those guys at once, and

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Speaker 1: maybe he was one of the ones they couldn't quite

532
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Speaker 1: get done into.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't have to sign to be on

534
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Speaker 4: the field at Rooky Minnichamp, just you know, up front.

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Speaker 4: So my guess is that it was whatever it was,

536
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Speaker 4: was minor, because as Mike said, we did have some

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Speaker 4: pictures of him on Saturday. I was wondering just sometimes

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Speaker 4: at this time of year, these guys go back and graduate,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if maybe he was, you know,

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Speaker 4: it might have been a personal situation where he wanted

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's what he did because he

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Speaker 4: was there the next day. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 4: but that that sometimes happens with rookies is they want

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Speaker 4: to be part of the graduating class, and I I

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Speaker 4: think that's great when they do it. But I don't

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Speaker 4: know why he wasn't there, and I'm not overlly concerned

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 6: That makes sense.

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Speaker 10: Somebody had mentioned that one of the other second round

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Speaker 10: picks had signed like a fully guaranteed contract, and that

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Speaker 10: like hypothesize, I guess that maybe that was the hold

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Speaker 10: up that everybody in the second round was now looking for.

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Speaker 4: So that could be. That could be in terms of

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Speaker 4: signing contracts, Randy, that's absolutely a good point. I think

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Speaker 4: it was was was it Higgins? Jalen Higgins, Jayden Higgins.

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Speaker 4: I think he's the one that signed fully guaranteed. So

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Speaker 4: that's something to keep an eye on if the second

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Speaker 4: round picks end up, you know, being delayed a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But again in general terms, that wouldn't keep a guy

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Speaker 4: off the mini camp field. They signed where they get,

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Speaker 4: they get their money anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so nothing to worry about, little think. Thanks Randy,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. So jump over to Frez no Speed Speed.

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Speaker 12: What what's going on?

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Speaker 13: He got hear me?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you great?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 14: It's exciting for the you know, all the all the

571
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Speaker 14: stuff he's been happening the offseason. I guess just think

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Speaker 14: about Drake May and you know he's spraying the ball

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Speaker 14: a bit last year in his rookie year, and it's

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Speaker 14: kind of to be expected. There's going to be some

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Speaker 14: some struggles but there's a lot to be optimistic about.

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Speaker 14: I guess I wanted to ask coming into this season,

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Speaker 14: what do you what do you look? What are you realists?

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Speaker 14: Do excuse me, realistically expect? And at what point might

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Speaker 14: you start to worry if he's still spraying the ball,

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Speaker 14: like at what week's week three, week four, week six? Ooh,

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Speaker 14: maybe there's some concerns here. I don't know, what do

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Speaker 14: you guys think?

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Speaker 4: Thanks be, I would say if he's if he's turning

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Speaker 4: the ball over again, I don't care how many weeks

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Speaker 4: it is, that would be concerning to me. I'm expecting

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Speaker 4: to turn I think we talked about this a little

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Speaker 4: bit last week. I'm expecting the turnover number to drop dramatically.

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Speaker 4: I think having a guy like Ray and Josh McDaniels

589
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Speaker 4: on him, I think will will limit some of the mistakes.

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Speaker 4: But if they don't, and it's like Spee said, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of like as a result of just continuing to

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Speaker 4: spray the ball, because I don't think he made a

593
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Speaker 4: ton of bad decisions last year on his turnovers, like

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Speaker 4: mostly interceptions in the NFL will generally in general terms,

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Speaker 4: they have bad decisions misreading the coverage or trying to

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Speaker 4: jam one in that we're just not there. A lot

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Speaker 4: of May's last year I thought were just bad throws

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Speaker 4: because I do think it gets away from him every

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Speaker 4: once in a while. So if that continues, that's not

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Speaker 4: a good sign.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's a good question. I mean, I

602
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Speaker 1: think that's the thing that is going to define this

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Speaker 1: Patriots season. I think they're going to be a solid team,

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Speaker 1: but how good. I don't want to simplify it and

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Speaker 1: say that Drake May's going to determine this team's entire ceiling.

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Speaker 1: But he's the quarterback sort of.

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Speaker 8: He's so much more going for him this season in

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Speaker 8: terms of coaching, in terms of the web bins he.

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Speaker 1: Has now, So yeah, try to get digs up to

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Speaker 1: speed quick. You know, how does how does that all

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Speaker 1: play out with the receivers?

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Speaker 4: But boy Diggs was in New York last night.

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Speaker 8: Cardi B, Cardi B and the Kendall Jenner.

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Speaker 1: He's got like some style he had on like a

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Speaker 1: like a hood kind of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't he go to the Metdala?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was at the met Gala. I thought we

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Speaker 8: fumbled the bag with the Instagram caption that we did.

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Speaker 8: We posted a picture of him at the met gala

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Speaker 8: with like the fur we should have put King of

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Speaker 8: the North. It's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Well, hopefully uh back sooner than later. I'll's

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Speaker 1: jump over here in North Carolina and Todd Hey talked.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys are gonna start with an apology. When you

625
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Speaker 2: guys were talking sandwiches, I kept thinking that, Yeah, last

626
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Speaker 2: year the Patriots had way too much mail under sandwich.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dudes, I know I just kind of wrecked

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Speaker 2: your stick there with that thought.

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Speaker 15: True.

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Speaker 2: I really want to know is kind of related to that.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel the cult is this year compared

632
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Speaker 2: to last year, with you know, rabled hands on approach,

633
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Speaker 2: the just the engagement with the players, the more media president.

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Speaker 16: There seems to be more.

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Speaker 2: More coming out of what they're doing and what's going

636
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Speaker 2: on and where their approaches in last year.

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Speaker 12: How do you guys feel about that?

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Speaker 4: I haven't really sensed it. I mean, I think the

639
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Speaker 4: culture last year at this time of year was outstanding.

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Speaker 4: I think the players spoke glowingly about you know, Gerrod

641
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Speaker 4: Mayo's treating them like men. And the one thing that

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Speaker 4: I would agree with Todd there is I do feel

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Speaker 4: like it's been more football talk that we're hearing now

644
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Speaker 4: than we did last year, and I think it's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they knew exactly what you know.

646
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Speaker 4: I made a big deal of it at the time.

647
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Speaker 4: They had an opportunity to do a couple of these

648
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Speaker 4: weeks and they chose not to because they claimed they

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Speaker 4: weren't ready to. So I think football wise, they're ahead

650
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Speaker 4: of where they were last year at this time. Culture wise,

651
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Speaker 4: I would say it's pretty good right now from everything

652
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Speaker 4: I'm hearing. But I thought it was pretty good last

653
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Speaker 4: year from everything I heard, and that didn't really change

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Speaker 4: until you got into the season and the losses started

655
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Speaker 4: piling up. Yeah, and then we started hearing every game

656
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Speaker 4: postgame bad stuff.

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Speaker 8: I think last year too, a lot of our leaders

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Speaker 8: were defensive guys that had known Mayo for years before

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Speaker 8: he came loved and they had such a vested interest

660
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Speaker 8: in him being promoted to that level and him doing

661
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 8: really well. So in hindsight, maybe it was like, maybe

662
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 8: he was too much of their friend than their coach situation.

663
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 8: But yeah, looking back now I'm starting I'm like, Okay,

664
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 8: the vibes are really high, but taking it with a

665
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Speaker 8: grain of salt.

666
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel a little more sense of an identity,

667
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: But I just I.

668
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: Think I do too.

669
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Speaker 1: I'm struggling with that with right now. Is it's hard

670
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: to compliment Mike Frabele and this team without it seeming

671
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: like you're trying to take a dump on what was before.

672
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

673
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there are certainly elements where people out there

674
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: are serving things and they're directly trying to take a

675
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: dump on last year. But it was the same thing

676
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: to last year, when everything you wanted to say nice

677
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: about Mayo it felt like, well, you're taking a dump

678
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: on Bill and I mean, and to be fair, sometimes

679
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I think they did overtly take a dump home, you

680
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: know what, They.

681
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: That regime had no problems doing that. I totally agree

682
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: with your summation of that because I do feel like

683
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: every time I talk about something that I like about Rabel,

684
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: I'd have to offer the disclaim show.

685
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like the pendulum was here with Bill swung

686
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 8: all the way over with Mayo. I hope we're back

687
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 8: somewhere in the middle.

688
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: And I just I want to always try to be

689
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: fair to drop Mayo because I think, I mean, he

690
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: was put in a really hard position. But Mike Frabil

691
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: is an experienced coach who knows what he wants and

692
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: had a whole year to refine his program and what

693
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: he wants. And I think what you're seeing from that

694
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: rookie mini camp and even some of the meetings that

695
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: you know we've seen with the media is just that

696
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: he knows exactly what he wants to do now and

697
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: he's going for it. And I think that's you know,

698
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: maybe Jirog could have eventually gotten there. But I really

699
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: liked what Mike Rabel said in that little clip that

700
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: we put out with him and Kaden Wallace from the

701
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: team meeting, where he said, I don't care how it

702
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: was coached in the past, this is how I want

703
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: to do it. And you know, I try to take

704
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: that approach a little bit and talking as much about

705
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: this as we do, because it's like, I just don't

706
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: want everything. Every time I give Rabel a compliment, somebody's like, well,

707
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Jerrob Murrio was never involved in practice, then was it?

708
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's they're totally separate, And I think there

709
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: is a way to still praise this regime without it

710
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: seeming like you're trying to take side shots at what

711
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: they did last year. Submittedly they were in a hard position, and.

712
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 8: Again Mayo really only knew what it was like here.

713
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 8: Like Rabel, you're getting his experience, but it's not just

714
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 8: years of experience, it's experience elsewhere, you know, Like it

715
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 8: wasn't part of Belichick's coaching tree. He just played for Belichick.

716
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 8: He learned how to coach at a bunch of different places.

717
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I think that was reflected

718
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: in you know, just as simple as the warm ups

719
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: before practice, you know, how does it go?

720
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 16: What?

721
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: Like I thought, I've always thought the coaches here have

722
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: had really good energy. I mean I thought Bill's practices

723
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: were always really high tempo and coaches running to and

724
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: front drills, and it just didn't feel like a lot

725
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: of time, you know, being wasted. But I definitely took

726
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: notice of the energy just overall from all the coaches.

727
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: I'd also just highlight Scott Booker was the safety's coach.

728
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Was one guy that really just stood out to me.

729
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Booming voice, knows what he's looking for. Talking to a

730
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys watching the practice from the back end

731
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: of the of the defense, he really seems like he

732
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: knows what he wants and how to get it out

733
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: of his guys. So I think you're starting to see

734
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, even Thomas Brown spending

735
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of time with Josh McDaniels on the field

736
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: during that practice as well, Like.

737
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: Someone was actually watching practice in.

738
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: Between talking with you and gigraphy me that. But those

739
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: are the things I think a lot of people were

740
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: so focused on, you know, reps and you know, here's

741
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams running through a little gauntlet like okay, yeah,

742
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: like it looks nicey can.

743
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: Someone a clip out? And like making the defense look silly?

744
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: I was like, are we serious right now? Like even

745
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: we had a call at earlier that said Mason Graham

746
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: looked terrible. I proba, like, no, we didn't. They're standing

747
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: out there in shorts and they're warming up and they're

748
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: like going to a shell of a seven on seven

749
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: Like no one's done a thing. Like these kids are

750
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: just learning what they're doing, you know, and how they're

751
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: going to practice at the NFL level. They're not. There's

752
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: no performance at all, no, no, Like no one looked

753
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 4: good and no one looked bad. I'm going to say,

754
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: across the board, unless someone got hurt, that I don't

755
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: know about obviously injuries bad, you know, but.

756
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: No, it's hard. I mean we will get another.

757
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 4: Kyle Williams did not make anyone look silly.

758
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean still look like let's say he caught

759
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: a couple of balls in the seven on seventh period.

760
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Speaker 1: That's nice, like you better than John Giles, right, So

761
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: to John Giles last year practice squatter who was out

762
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Speaker 1: there helping with the team.

763
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: I was watching that one.

764
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: And we'll also get another look at the full team

765
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: in OTAs a week from today next Tuesday. So I'm

766
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: not sure how that will affect PU, but that will

767
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: be a full group. Ra Abel said on Friday, you're

768
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: trying to get these rookies up to speed, which all

769
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: these veterans have been around last five weeks. Crash course

770
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: for the rookies, trying to get up to speed. What

771
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: it was the same drinking from the fire hose for.

772
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 8: How could you?

773
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: That wasn't a shot on how could you?

774
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: That was the most directly the show was.

775
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: A little bit. I will say this. We're going to

776
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: the phones Christian in l a Hey, Christian, what's going on?

777
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: You guys?

778
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: Are you today pretty good? How are you? How's things

779
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: out in LA these days.

780
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that things are kind of calm.

781
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 10: Down here in l A.

782
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, getting the June gloom yet going crazy.

783
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Speaker 12: People are a little weird about that. But the wedd

784
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 12: is nice and that would count.

785
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: No, no June gloomiat that's usually this time of year

786
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: you start getting in June. All right, good call, good correction,

787
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: that makes sense, right.

788
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 12: But anyway, you guys, I know we have a a

789
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 12: pretty good season coming up. I am watching and take

790
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 12: the Kyle Williams and love what he represents on tape.

791
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 12: I think we have a good shot at eight, maybe

792
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 12: ten Wednesday, if we really pulled things together. My quest

793
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 12: for you guys to say, though, it's about one game

794
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 12: in particular, and that's a home game, and that game

795
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 12: is going to be against the Lost Biggest Raiders. So

796
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 12: I sat down you with but we wondered what kind

797
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 12: of reception is and should Tom Brady gets if he

798
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 12: comes to sit in an owner's box for the Raiders

799
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 12: versus New England games. And do you guys think that

800
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 12: our Gedule, I mean our Brecord at the time will

801
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 12: have anything to factor into if we're you know, people

802
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 12: are kind of okay with Brady being there or like

803
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 12: with doing bad and they just want everything, you know,

804
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 12: to burn. What do you guys think about Brady's visits

805
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 12: to the New England as the owner now of part

806
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 12: of the Raiders.

807
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Christian, I don't anticipate that happening. I think he's

808
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: got a job and he'll be unless that's podcast, unless

809
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: that happens to be a Fox game and he's here

810
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: as the color analyst for the game. I don't anticipate

811
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: Tom Brady traveling to all the Raiders games in the

812
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: owner's box. He's got a job. He has stated on

813
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: the record that he's not doesn't have any plans to

814
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: to stop doing that. Now maybe that'll change, and then

815
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: in the coming weeks, maybe we'll find out. Oh, Tom

816
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 4: Brady won't be back with Kevin Burkhart in the lead

817
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: chair for Fox's top broadcast team, but he says that

818
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: he's going to continue to do it.

819
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: Right, Why would you do that, Bobby, Like why don't

820
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: you just if you own a part of a team,

821
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: like wouldn't and you were loaded, Like wouldn't You're I'm

822
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: just gonna travel to my team's games. I'm gonna watch

823
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: it from a luxury box. I'm gonna take my private

824
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: plane back like that, to me, would be the ultimate

825
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: to own a sports franchise and be able to just

826
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: follow them and there's.

827
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 4: Something that you really share, something you really want.

828
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: What's kind of what we do right now? Only I

829
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: don't own the team right like you just kind of

830
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: follow the team, and.

831
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 8: I like to just travel and put my feet up

832
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 8: and chill.

833
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I think you're sweet. Is ready for you, Miss Francisco?

834
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: You know, like the whiskey that.

835
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: Would be high on my priority list of money.

836
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 8: Money to bring into a Cup games, but.

837
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 4: Money to burn. I don't know if I so.

838
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think I've evolved a little bit

839
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: in that I can see why someone would not want

840
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: to own a team with everything that goes into Let

841
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: me look across the league at what different ownership groups

842
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: have gone through, whether it's controversies, whether it's you know,

843
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: selling the team, people want to move the team. I mean,

844
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: there do seem like a lot of headaches. And you've got,

845
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: especially here, you've got sports media up your butt like

846
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: they're high expectations. A fan base that knows the team

847
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 1: and and and has had success and wants that success back.

848
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying, though it is pressure fold.

849
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: I just think it. How about a minor league hockey team.

850
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm not even like with the pressure. I just feel like,

851
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: if I if I'm a huge sports fan, I don't

852
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: need to own the team. I'll just be a huge

853
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 4: fan of the team and go when I want to go.

854
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: And you know, I.

855
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 8: Don't think I would spend my money to buy into

856
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 8: a team right now. If I was born and if

857
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 8: I was like Amara or something different, story like that

858
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 8: would probably be awesome. But I don't think I would

859
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 8: use my own income to get into an owner. I

860
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 8: think the evaluations are just like way too high of

861
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 8: these teams.

862
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: Now, I got a question. Maybe you know this, Paul.

863
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot with

864
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: this one. So I mentioned I hate when people mention

865
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: what books they're reading. But I am reading the book, right,

866
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't read. But do you know what the

867
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: controversy was with the Giants coaches back in the eighties.

868
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I guess there was like a nephew that wanted the

869
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: ownership and well like Tim Maron, and there was like

870
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: Wellington mar I guess during this time there was a

871
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: lot of different I don't know the tension within the

872
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: ownership group of the Giants part of why, you know

873
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells had some of the complications there that he had.

874
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: But I just you know, it's interesting, we come here,

875
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: everything seems so stable, but you realize that sometimes when

876
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: these families do own the team, that family squabbles cap

877
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: and all, like.

878
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 8: The Lakers, like Jeanie Bust and her brothers, like and

879
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 8: I wonder what that relationships like now, you know.

880
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Sounds like it's good succession TV show, like a actually

881
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: a family that owns a team.

882
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 8: They made a I think it's a Netflix show and

883
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 8: it's Kate Kate Hudson.

884
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: I think, did you see it? It's terrific. It's really funny.

885
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 8: And it's I think Kate Hudson and Brenda Song the

886
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 8: songs like her chief of staff. But she's like Genie

887
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 8: Buss kind of the l a basketball team.

888
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Not much of a stretch to say. She's kind of

889
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 4: loosely based on Genie Bust, and I think Jeanie Bust

890
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: and producer she I think she is.

891
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 8: Her brother is the president of the team, but he

892
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 8: does a bunch of drugs and has a bender one

893
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 8: night and gets to an accident and becomes up in

894
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 8: the public eye, and he kind of appoints his sister

895
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 8: the next one. Another brother is the GM. Another brother

896
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 8: is like the CFO.

897
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: I forget the name of the shower. It's an easy,

898
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: easy watch too.

899
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 8: There it was cute.

900
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Beth and I watched it like a weekend.

901
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: Well, let's jump up down to Will Campbell's home state

902
00:40:52,920 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: down in Louisiana. He can running point, running point, running point, Kennedy. Then, yes,

903
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: you're on.

904
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: All right.

905
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 11: Hey, I'm calling from Louisiana and I just a second, okay,

906
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 11: I was I wanted to ask you about this because

907
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 11: I hey, man, how's everything?

908
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 6: Listen?

909
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 11: I want I am here.

910
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: Hell, Ken, you're on a radio show and he's having

911
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: like three conversations and we're not really a part of men.

912
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, I tell you what, I've got some kind of

913
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 11: bad connection here.

914
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll call back, all right, Ken, Sorry to hear that.

915
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: It's a shame down Louisiana.

916
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 17: He had like three conversations right on the street.

917
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, it goes good to see you. I can't

918
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: see love it.

919
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that life of just like hanging on

920
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: the radio waiting to get on the show and a

921
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: radio station only one appearing as.

922
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: A humble bragg.

923
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever a little bit of a flex.

924
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever called college.

925
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 8: I think I called into uh Dalen Hawley in college?

926
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: Why because they did you have to manage playing them

927
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 4: to No, it was.

928
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 8: A positive call. Actually, Holly told me that he would

929
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 8: get an I would get an A plus in his school,

930
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 8: the Holly School of Journalism. But remember we don't have

931
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 8: to get too deep into it. But Boogie Gross John

932
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 8: Bouchie Gross was like caught up in a scandal with

933
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 8: co worker, and I think the Boston the Boston Globe

934
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 8: published like texts, but they didn't have her text. They

935
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 8: only had his, and it was like small excerpts. So

936
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 8: I called in to say, like, hey, I'm just in

937
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 8: journalism school, but I think it's really responsible, irresponsible that

938
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 8: they published all this and they didn't have the full

939
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 8: context of the conversation. Because the way I talk with

940
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 8: some of my best friends, like if you just took

941
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 8: out bits and pieces of it, you'd think I was

942
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 8: a psychopath, you know. So I kind of called in

943
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 8: to make that point.

944
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Again. Actually I gotta I gotta share my joke with

945
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Alex that I pulled with Paul this weekend. I was

946
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: watching the Celtics on Saturday and Paul was texting me

947
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: about something and I thought of a joke. I thought

948
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: him a funny. I thought him a funny. So I

949
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: texted pon I'm like, you know, I think I'm actually

950
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: going to watch this is like they're up by thirty,

951
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: it's like the third quarter. You know, I think I'm

952
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: actually going to watch the game. And oh man, I

953
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: was no one cracked up more than me. I was like,

954
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting to Paul. He's gonna leave so hard because.

955
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: I thought, like I immediately looked at Bat and I'm

956
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: like telling her the whole story, like he doesn't really

957
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: like follow basketball, doesn't really care. And I was just like,

958
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, you do know that the game. The game's

959
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: almost over. They're up thirty with like three minutes left

960
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 4: the third courter.

961
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I had to throw a weight what first, just to

962
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: get jokeing, and I'm like, I'm just messing with you.

963
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: I will, I will admit when you did the weight

964
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: what I knew that you do. But but he got

965
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: he totally got me. And this whole time I'm going

966
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: back and with Alex about random stuff. I'm like, yeah,

967
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: they're gonna do it again. They gotta just playing an

968
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: offense and stop Howking. But the Knicks were bad on Saturday.

969
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: Though they were not so much less not last night.

970
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: That second half of the Knicks. I have to say,

971
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: I've been very obnoxiously Boston centric in my watching of

972
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: this series, and I still don't really think there's much

973
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: comparison between the two teams. But the second half last

974
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: night was the first time the Knicks for any length

975
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: of time, were the better team. They played unbelievably well

976
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: in the second half, and the Celtics just couldn't stop them.

977
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: They couldn't get a single stop.

978
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: I have a taken in development, and you guys know

979
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm not it's not a big Celtics guy, so feel

980
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: free to shoot this down. But I've watched enough of

981
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: this series now to feel like Boston fans are maybe

982
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: a little envious of the kind of player that Brunson

983
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: is and the way he gets better as the game

984
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: gets harder. And to me, I don't think that's a

985
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: terrible take. Hearing you guys talk, it's kind of a

986
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: weird reflection on the things they don't like about Tatum

987
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: and maybe Brown. I don't know to speak totally to

988
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: that point, but.

989
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a terrible take. Would say that

990
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: most people that watch, you know, a lot of the games,

991
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: they'll say, give me Tatum, give me Brown. They're more

992
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: talented players. But I think Boston in particular has a

993
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 4: soft spot for that kind of scrappy, overachieving underdog who

994
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: tends to be at his best when it matters most. Yeah,

995
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: he's and I think that's a little bit of brunts.

996
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 8: In the Knicks fans I've talked to. I didn't watch

997
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 8: enough Knicks games this year, even in the playoffs, until

998
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 8: this series, but I get the sense from them that

999
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 8: they're like, Wow, this brunts In series is kind of

1000
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 8: not coming out of nowhere, but he's really taking a.

1001
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Step up, even for a guy who doesn't watch much basketball.

1002
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: Just when I flip the games on, it's just obvious

1003
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: that that guy is playing at an elite level right now.

1004
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 8: I Mean, there were so many times yesterday where he's

1005
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 8: the smallest guy on the floor and he's still getting

1006
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 8: all the rebounds, you know, like it was a fury.

1007
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: He's been in the Laite. The guy looks like he's

1008
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: like in his mid thirties. Two, Like he just looks

1009
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: old to spin around for a little while.

1010
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he started in Dallas. I'm spending the Knicks now

1011
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: for what three years? Two? Three years?

1012
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 8: Tons about right, Brunts and Burner.

1013
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: Such an idiot and then they're all like villing over

1014
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: guys too.

1015
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: So I heard that, not an idiot, it's not you,

1016
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: which I do like commercial.

1017
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 8: Then the Philly Philly whenever they can new house.

1018
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: All right, Ken's back in Louisiana with a better connection. Hey, Ken,

1019
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1020
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: Larious? Maybe I think maybe we'll table that to Thursday.

1021
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: It stay dry well, full lines are open. Give us

1022
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: a call. We'll get to the emails after nobody eats lunch.

1023
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: We will take a break here sometimes at about the

1024
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: top of the hour. But we are entering the official

1025
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: part of the off season where I feel like we

1026
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: need to bust out that game we were going to

1027
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: do with all of that, put their their pictures in,

1028
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: it's ready to go. I'm gonna put a final call

1029
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: out right now. So if you're a consistent caller and

1030
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: we know your name, email Matt Morrell or I guess

1031
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: the web web red radio, web radio at Patriots podcast

1032
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: podcasts at patriots dot com and just send them a picture.

1033
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna do who's that that caller, and we'll figure

1034
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: out a fun way to do it sometime over the

1035
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: next couple of months.

1036
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 8: Here's we maybe in a video form or we'll get

1037
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 8: them up on the screen or something. But yeah, we

1038
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 8: got a couple of great submissions, but there was a

1039
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 8: couple of regulars. I was a little disappointed to not

1040
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 8: see anything yet.

1041
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get on it in Claire case Eldred participate.

1042
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: We all know what unfortunately, but should be like the

1043
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: only woman that's true. Well, we have a couple. There's

1044
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: a couple of callers. You have, like an old collar

1045
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: from the Chicago area, Paul that was a big fan

1046
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: of of here a woman there's a big fan.

1047
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 4: Of Cat Cat in Chicago.

1048
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, trap, I got it.

1049
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: And she was a like good fan who would offer

1050
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: the critique when it needed to be too. I wonder

1051
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: where Cat is. She was like redoing a house in Chicago,

1052
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 4: and then we haven't heard from her for a long time.

1053
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: It's funny how that works for.

1054
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 8: Renovations.

1055
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Man, almost like social media, where there's all of a

1056
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: sudden you realize you're like, I haven't seen that person

1057
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: and forever on social media for whatever, you know, reading

1058
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: like somebody just drops off the face of.

1059
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: The earth, and then you start thinking, oh, I hope

1060
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: you know everything is okay. Yeah, you know, it's not

1061
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: like you know them, know them.

1062
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: But then suddenly someone random calls in that hasn't called

1063
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: in for like a year or something, and you guys

1064
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: instantly remember who they were.

1065
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 8: And I wis you could send wellness checks like I

1066
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 8: here's a quick everything going good?

1067
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Well the newsletter?

1068
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 4: We'll check and watch some of those shows. What's uh?

1069
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: What's the one Alison Victoria That one on HG TV.

1070
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: She does one of those rehab shows. Yeah, do you

1071
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: watch watch?

1072
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 8: I think TV was my backup plan if sports media

1073
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 8: didn't want to go.

1074
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: That's funny. I think she I think she was in

1075
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: Chicago and that's what this The cat in Chicago's like

1076
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: rehab project. That's what it reminded me of all the

1077
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: time listening to her talk about it.

1078
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: But house flipping.

1079
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: This wasn't flipping this. I think they bought something like

1080
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 4: downtown that they were completely redoing. If I'm not mistaken,

1081
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: heard her husband the.

1082
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Real estate game. It's tough. It's tough out there.

1083
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you a mogul?

1084
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely not. But are you dreaming of next

1085
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: to the off season?

1086
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 11: Paul?

1087
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Speaker 4: Is it easy to drink?

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Speaker 1: for It's right. Those are those are some tough copy.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of emails we got all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going right to the Jaws one first, so or

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Speaker 1: else we start, Oh Tyler from Ludlow first, he said,

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Speaker 16: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: We're giving a If you like Joss trivia, you should

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Speaker 1: check out the Jaws episode of the Unspooled podcast. You'll

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Speaker 1: learn things like the theme music was based on the

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Speaker 1: dinosaur fight scene from Fantasia, and that Quinn's traits are

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Speaker 1: based on a local Martha Martha's vineyard fisherman who was

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Speaker 1: allegedly the only person on the island to be arrested

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Speaker 1: for a drunk driving a team of oxen. They had

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Speaker 1: a small part in the movie, and the crew would

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Speaker 1: listen to his stories and use them to craft Quinn's line.

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Speaker 1: So Quinn is real. I can confirm that, Paul, you

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Speaker 1: know who that guy was. He's the one that's driving.

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Speaker 1: I think he played the Ben Gardner. He's like that,

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Speaker 1: said mothers. I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: It was the guy who comes outside with the pipe.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, maybe the hobbermaster.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was the guy in the boat. Wait,

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Speaker 1: we got it. We're gonna have to Tyler. Is it

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Speaker 1: is it the guy? Is it Ben Gardner?

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Speaker 4: Ben Gardners, that's Ben, and.

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Speaker 1: He's the one who guys like that whole when they're

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Speaker 1: all drying, of course, and he's going together with that's Markllo.

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Speaker 1: Sorry Alex, but well, Jows is coming back into theaters

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Speaker 1: this summer, and I think we need to do a

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00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: team outing of that. We just talked way too much

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Speaker 1: about it. It's gonna be playing right there at Patriot Place.

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Speaker 4: Do a little team to this particular summer. But I

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Speaker 4: would definitely be interested.

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Speaker 1: An eleven o'clock show you about nine am, we about

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Speaker 1: eleven to one the.

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Speaker 8: Team thing, or we do the drive in theater that's

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Speaker 8: on the cape and make it really an authentic experience

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Speaker 8: and then we expense the trip.

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Speaker 1: All right, Alex, Alex, you got your first email. Alex

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Speaker 1: is on the on the booth in the covering new

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Speaker 1: Alex Boy Alex to be confused girl, Alex. But Rick

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00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: is writing and saying, can you update the opening credits

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Speaker 1: to the show. The robotic voice in random Chatter is screaming,

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00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: screaming for an upgrade. So while Mamarrell's out today, Alex,

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Speaker 1: if you want to update the update the whole show?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the times, you know, flex your muscles.

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Speaker 1: This is probably a question for father Fred. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I know I probably have to ask for Father Fred.

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Speaker 1: Is the statue thing for Brady still happening or is

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Speaker 1: that in eighty six. I'd like to attend the ceremony

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Speaker 1: if it is. Thanks to my Week one prediction Week

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Speaker 1: one at Jets. That's Sean macfree one at Jets.

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Speaker 8: I feel like it's a timing thing, a schedule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think that is the issue currently,

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Speaker 4: and it judgs back to what we talked about about

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes ago. He has a job and he's kind

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Speaker 4: of busy on NFL Sundays. So I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the status of the statue is now.

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Speaker 4: Definitely status of the statue, it's not easy to.

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Speaker 1: It's think commission I don't know. I just want to

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Speaker 1: you commissioned a statute, what else do you do?

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Speaker 8: Do you think it's done and it's just like a

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Speaker 8: storage somewhere.

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Speaker 4: You think it looks like Dwayne Wade or Ronaldo Rinaldo's statue?

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Speaker 8: Is I'm certain?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I don't know what it looks like,

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Speaker 1: but I would just say, like, I hope that it

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Speaker 1: looks like Brady like, but football playing Brady like. I

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Speaker 1: would say, if you had to pick between helmet and

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Speaker 1: helmet off. I think i'd lean towards helmet on like

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Speaker 1: I would to play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 1: And he's just you know, standing there like I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want that Abe Lincoln or something not for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I get this one. Maybe you guys can

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Speaker 1: get it from Christopher and Clemson South Carolina Afternoon PF

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Speaker 1: as we begin to gear up for the upcoming season. Stuff.

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Speaker 1: They used to call it.

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Speaker 4: Yours PFW in progress. Now it's PU.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's enthusiasm is on the rise for their currently undefeated team.

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Speaker 1: Which performance indicators are you most looking forward to seeing?

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Speaker 1: When in the past I e OTA's training camp first

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Speaker 1: quarter of the season, were you able to confirm that

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00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: your indicator showed about the team? So I think I

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Speaker 1: get what he's getting at, which I do think is

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Speaker 1: an interesting question because so hard to discern in training camp.

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Speaker 1: I've now watched I don't know, six training camps with you,

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Speaker 1: and I think you can kind of tell a little bit,

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00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, like you don't want to believe it sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But last year was was you could tell after Philly

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Speaker 1: they were going to struggle movie.

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Speaker 4: I think it's hard to watch practices and say they're

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Speaker 4: going to do this well and they're going to struggle

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Speaker 4: at this last year. In the year before too, were

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Speaker 4: definitely outliars to me. They were so bad offensively. They

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Speaker 4: struggled so much offensively in my view for practice. Usually

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Speaker 4: in practice you find a way to complete passes and

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Speaker 4: move that it's not always going full tilt, so the

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Speaker 4: defensive backs aren't breaking on receivers to knock passes away.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot of contact. So generally

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Speaker 4: the completion percentages are very high. The last two seasons

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Speaker 4: it hasn't been very high. Like you could see they

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Speaker 4: were going to struggle offensively. But I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you can watch that and say, well, this team's just

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Speaker 4: not very talented. They're going against each other. You're right.

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Speaker 4: When they went to the joint practice against Philadelphia and

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Speaker 4: got pushed around like a little boy, it was hard

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Speaker 4: not to take that and say this could be a

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Speaker 4: long It's.

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Speaker 1: Hard too, because I think I wouldn't have thought the

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Speaker 1: defense would be that bad last year, and but injuries

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Speaker 1: really hit, and you know that kind of started to

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Speaker 1: unravel things. You know, Dugger was banged up all year,

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Speaker 1: Bentley was out, Peppers had his issues. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: go right down, you know, Christian Barmore, of course at

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Speaker 1: that point shoot on. You know, it's ah so. But

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Speaker 1: I think also of like a guy like Jalen Polk

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Speaker 1: that we watched have a pretty consistent camp and then

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Speaker 1: he can go the other way to a few games

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think that touchdown that wasn't was

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Speaker 1: really weird.

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Speaker 4: But that's a great example of why I don't think

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Speaker 4: you can necessarily do it that way the way the

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Speaker 4: emailer is looking for it, because I would say rookie

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Speaker 4: year Taekwon Dowton looked like he could play, and certainly

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Speaker 4: rookie year Jalen Polk last year looked like he was

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Speaker 4: going to be a big part of the offense. And

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden it happens for real and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't look the same way. Because practice is practice,

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Speaker 4: and you can you can glean some stuff. What I

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Speaker 4: always take away from it is I look and I watch,

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Speaker 4: and I say, Okay, this Malcolm Butler kid who's a

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Speaker 4: rookie who I don't have any idea who he is.

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Speaker 4: They look like they kind of like him because he's

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Speaker 4: in a lot of groups with like Devin mccordy and

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Speaker 4: Stefan Gilbert. You know these other guys that you know

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Speaker 4: are gonna play. Why do they keep putting him out there?

1235
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Speaker 4: They must like this kid, and you can extrapolate that

1236
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff, but I'm not gonna tell you I

1237
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Speaker 4: knew at the end of that year he's gonna make

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Speaker 4: the play of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That was the same for me witnessing them when you

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Speaker 1: that year of just thing pick.

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Speaker 4: Out there all the time, he's gonna play. You know

1242
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna play. At the same time last year when

1243
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: it's a revolving Dora at tackle was telling you they

1244
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: don't have any idea who's gonna play tackle. You could

1245
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Speaker 4: see it.

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Speaker 1: It's also interesting I thought at the receiver position last

1247
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: year and again this year that they had a lot

1248
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: of bodies, not a lot of delineation for who's the

1249
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: best every but he is kind of specific roles. But

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Speaker 1: it was interesting last year watching Kashan Boudi emerge, not

1251
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Speaker 1: somebody that really you know, started the parade.

1252
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Speaker 4: For and again not in training camp. It was once

1253
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Speaker 4: the game started, it was like him and pull changed roles.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the point too. Paul is that once

1255
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Speaker 1: the season starts, things can change quickly quick whether it's injuries,

1256
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Speaker 1: whether I mean I made the point with Polk the

1257
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: game that he didn't get his back foot in thought

1258
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Speaker 1: he had the game winning touchdown, and really, for me,

1259
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Speaker 1: it looked like from that point was when he just

1260
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Speaker 1: started to lose his confidence and needed to hit the

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Speaker 1: reset button. Never really was able to. Then got hurt

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: But quickly.

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Speaker 1: I've said it before that last year showed me last

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: two years that every loss makes it worse. Every loss,

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: things get worse, People get a little bit more pissed,

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Speaker 1: people get a little bit more clipped, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's not fun to be around a team

1269
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: that continues to drop games, especially when you feel like

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Speaker 1: they've kind of lost lost the plot. I guess it

1271
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Speaker 1: was like you're not really gunning for the playoffs anymore.

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Speaker 1: War you're just kind of trying to run the string

1273
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: out here at the end of the season. But Polk's

1274
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: such a great example of that where I just head scratcher,

1275
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: thought he'd be productive, thought he would at least contributing.

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of guys, but you know, when

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: you have your fifty three man roster when the season

1278
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 4: opens and you look and you're like, oh, that guy

1279
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: was here and he was starting. And then all of

1280
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like ten twelve weeks later and you're like, wow,

1281
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: I don't even remember him being on the team, you know.

1282
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 4: And there are different examples of different caliber players. I

1283
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: remember the year that they had the you know, all

1284
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: the tight ends, Scott Channing, Remember Scott Chandler. Scott Chandler.

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Speaker 4: At the beginning of the year, you're like, this guy,

1286
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna be a big part of this team.

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: And he catches a touchdown, I want to say, on

1288
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: opening night against Pittsburgh. And then by the time that

1289
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: season's oh, you don't even remember Scott Chandler was part

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: of the team, yeah, let alone being part of the offense.

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Speaker 1: I called him Scott Chandler. Of course, that was like

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Speaker 1: the never ending search to find the calm ement to Gronk,

1293
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Speaker 1: Like every year there was a new but they had

1294
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Speaker 1: fourths tight ends and they're gonna do this, you know, revolutionary,

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Speaker 1: and by the time you get like five six weeks in,

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Speaker 1: it's like, no, Okay, that didn't work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just have to regroup, you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we're going to take a little break here.

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Speaker 1: But first, it's easy to drink. It's easy to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Bud Light, the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 20: Exclusions apply, Buddy, Welcome to the PU Extra Relieve read

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Speaker 20: your leftover emails I didn't get read on the show. Guys,

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Speaker 20: as always, send your emails to podcasts at Patriots dot

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Speaker 20: com because if the guys don't read them, we will.

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Speaker 3: Chris Alex get into it's been a while. Yeah, a lot,

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Speaker 3: a lot's happened.

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Speaker 8: But thank god that's over.

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Speaker 15: First.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you've heard, but we

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Speaker 20: also had a Hall of Fame announcement. As I get

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Speaker 20: into this email from Sean, Hello, gents and lady up

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Speaker 20: to say I'm upset with the Hall of the Hall

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Speaker 20: decision is an understatement.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 20: I guess I should have known when the bandwagon one

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Speaker 20: that came and came on in twenty fifteen, would vote

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Speaker 20: for the guy that has a stupid podcast to be

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Speaker 20: in the Hall of Fame over a guy that helps

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Speaker 20: start a dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Edelman deserves to be in, but he needs to wait.

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Speaker 20: Shame on the Hall of Fame fake committee for putting

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Speaker 20: him on the ballot. You can save those lunches for

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Speaker 20: the next four years, because this is how it's going

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Speaker 20: to go twenty twenty six. Gronk twenty twenty seven, mccordy

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Speaker 20: twenty twenty eight, Slater twenty twenty nine, Andrews. Why put

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Speaker 20: guys like Adam Adam Vinteri, Megan's Russ, Francis Welker who

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Speaker 20: should have been in before Edelman? Or that about Monty Beisel. Sorry,

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Speaker 20: I can't pronounce that right. It's a waste of time

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Speaker 20: time to change the process. You don't listen to the

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Speaker 20: fans about a uniform chain. So that's so, that's so

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Speaker 20: desperately needed. Don't know how that gets proud. Yeah, you

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Speaker 20: listen to fans for a very oh so, yeah, you

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Speaker 20: listen to fans for a very important decision.

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Speaker 3: Get the process fixed.

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Speaker 20: Now, as a fan of those nineties teams, it would

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Speaker 20: have been special to of Adam and parcels going together.

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Speaker 3: He spelled it seam.

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Speaker 20: But Sean mack Freeland, Pennsylvania, lot's take in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what he's saying. By the way, I.

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Speaker 9: Understand the frustration and I agree with it. But at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, like the younger generations are

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Speaker 9: more online, like I don't know, I think who elections

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Speaker 9: are important?

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Speaker 1: You guys, you gotta get hold with these elections.

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Speaker 9: Think make a bought, make it bought, and just ram

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Speaker 9: your candidate.

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Speaker 21: I just think the argument too is Edelman state of

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Speaker 21: the team. There's that, and I like, again my generation,

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Speaker 21: everything I knew was winning growing up, and I attributed

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Speaker 21: that with Edelman, Brady kral.

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Speaker 20: Well, Minitarry kicked off like our generation and that being said,

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Speaker 20: like got to vote online like the older people prior't

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Speaker 20: voting online. But I think this lineup he has might

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Speaker 20: be pretty I mean, he's Gronk.

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Speaker 9: Most of that email is the fact that McCarty's already

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Speaker 9: going to be ready to rock.

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Speaker 20: But he also left he left out his career, he

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Speaker 20: left out High Tower, like like that being said, like Adam,

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Speaker 20: but Hary is gonna get pushed down.

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Speaker 3: I think, I know, I may.

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Speaker 21: I think Gronk is that next year, but then Pastor,

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Speaker 21: I think he's gonna win.

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Speaker 15: Over a mccordy in that first year. I just think.

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Speaker 9: That's going to bring up another question is who gets

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Speaker 9: in first High Tower mccordy. Yeah, I've had so many

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Speaker 9: so like there are plays that High Tower made in

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Speaker 9: multiple Super Bowls that were not winning those games without

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Speaker 9: clutch playing.

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Speaker 21: Indeed, I also think though the Devons, I mean they

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Speaker 21: both had long jeviny, but I think Devin's like overall leadership,

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Speaker 21: Like they're both leaders, but I think overall, like Devin

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 21: was more like that focus like on the defense.

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Speaker 20: You know, so we got we got that Edelman this year,

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Speaker 20: and I think you can pencil in Gronk.

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Speaker 3: I think for the year after then then I'll get

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Speaker 3: a little interested.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think Vin Terry will be Tony twas.

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Speaker 20: He definitely deserves to be in. But all right, next one,

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Speaker 20: hilarious lines from last show. This will be interesting because

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Speaker 20: Alex wasn't on the show. We were on the show,

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Speaker 20: So all right, dear Patriots Unfiltered, Hey guys, last show,

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Speaker 20: you kind of glossed over two lines that made me

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Speaker 20: laugh out loud. The first one, the first one of

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Speaker 20: the darkest. That was one of the darkest, funniest things

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Speaker 20: I've ever heard. Right at my alley when Paul said

1423
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 20: that Tim Tebow failed, I almost split up my walk.

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Speaker 20: Later in the show, Deuce was saying, the Jets are

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Speaker 20: in year fifty one of a rebuilt Thank I needed that.

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Speaker 8: You got That's Thursday show I was on.

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Speaker 9: Okay, it was hilarious In hindsight, Duce, it's so great

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Speaker 9: for those little like quick line you just gloss over.

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Speaker 15: But they really have been in a rebuild album.

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Speaker 20: Well, just thought, I can't get over that the Rogers

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 20: situation failed so poorly. It was either going to be

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Speaker 20: Super Bowl or I didn't think it would be as

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 20: bad as it was. No ye, like it'll be forever

1434
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 20: etched in NFL history of him running out anniversary September eleven,

1435
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 20: and that was a flag And now he's still signed.

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01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 15: Trying to figure out what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: I think up on the Steelers.

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Speaker 21: I don't know what the whole is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 20: Clip with the Commander's draft room. Hey, everyone, just curious

1441
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Speaker 20: event you saw the video of the Commander's draft room

1442
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Speaker 20: from a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: It's been circulated on the internet.

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Speaker 20: It was really interesting to see the Patriots try to

1445
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 20: move up, probably for Gonzalez, only the Commanders traded up instead.

1446
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 3: How we still ended up with the better player. Would

1447
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Speaker 3: love to know your thoughts.

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 20: Eric from Rochester, he asked, Christian from LA seems like

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Speaker 20: the type of guy who would have passed on Gonzo.

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Speaker 3: Why would he do that? So for this, Bean said,

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Speaker 3: have you seen the clip?

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Speaker 4: Have not?

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: Have you say so? Similar to the similar to the Eagles.

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Speaker 20: With the Justin Jefferson thing where they got laughed about

1455
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Speaker 20: them not taking him.

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Speaker 3: It was Commander's draft room. They're trading up.

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Speaker 20: Van Ness got taken and then their GM was like

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Speaker 20: we're taking Forbes.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like between Gonzon and Fores like.

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Speaker 20: Forbes is the better player, which is interesting because now

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Speaker 20: Forbes is not even on the team anymore. He's on

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 20: the Rams and the Pats got very lucky. So a

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Speaker 20: bit of that could be the Commander's Nikhil Harry's situation

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Speaker 20: with their cornerback issues.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think the Pats locked out with Gonzo for sure.

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Speaker 21: Forbes had a lot of upside coming into that draft.

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Speaker 21: He was I think one of the I think he

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Speaker 21: was the top rated to get back get in the draft, so.

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Speaker 15: I mean said a lot.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, he did little a lot, which is crazy because

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Speaker 20: I'm pretty sure if you redrafted that he'll be top five.

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Speaker 21: Gonzo is one of the best covery corners that organ

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Speaker 21: so I and in the pack twelve where they packed

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Speaker 21: telve at the time back then. So I mean, I

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Speaker 21: don't know, it's it's definitely up for debate. But it's like,

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 21: how do you know in that moment, what hell these

1477
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Speaker 21: players would turn out?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 21: So it's like kind of hard dolling coutos kind of

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Speaker 21: back and forth.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, all right, Hi guys, are you surprised that the

1482
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Speaker 20: Patriots did not draft a quarterback?

1483
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: Quin uers would have been a good pickup.

1484
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 20: Is there any news of Pats interest in any free

1485
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 20: agent quarterbacks or trades?

1486
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: Yemmy in Texas, do sign any undrafted guys?

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 20: There's reports that we were bringing in a camp body

1490
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 20: more or less. But right now we got Drake May,

1491
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 20: Josh Dobbs, obviously, Joe Milton what the Cowboys Paul always says.

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Speaker 20: I mean, there's no like, it's not bad to drafted quarterback.

1493
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 20: It's good business because you're gonna hit on one. I'm

1494
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 20: a little surprised, but personally, I think this franchise might

1495
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 20: be a little traumatized.

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Speaker 3: The Bailey Zappi, Matt Jones, de Vacle.

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Speaker 8: And then even the Joe Milton ye, which.

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Speaker 3: You heard some stuff, but you know, you know, you

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 15: But you never know the full story.

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Speaker 3: Dobbs.

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Speaker 20: Dobbs is a great veteran, He's been in the league

1503
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 20: for a long time. That's what you want with.

1504
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 21: The back they're locked. You obviously drinks your starter. Dobbs

1505
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 21: is a really solid backup quarterback. I mean kind of

1506
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 21: serves a similar role. If Drake were to have started

1507
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 21: all year last year and Scobian with actually just kind

1508
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 21: of that he's been been.

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 15: Doing it for a while. He's been in for a while.

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Speaker 21: So those two are locks, and as far as whoever

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Speaker 21: comes in as well, Like I mean, they're just gonna.

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Speaker 15: Learn from those two ahead of them.

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 21: So I think grant scheme of things that extra person,

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 21: regardless of who it is, I don't think it matters

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 21: too much to kind of what's going on, just more

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Speaker 21: in the fact that you can develop and kind of

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Speaker 21: grow onto them.

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Speaker 8: I think it just speaks to to just the type

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 8: of draft it was. It wasn't a quarterback to you know, not.

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Speaker 15: All I'm drafting Shandora.

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 20: That would have been crazy if he's just there, all right.

1522
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 20: Last email Fortune and Foxborough release date. Hi Gang, wondering

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01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 20: if the loyal pe listeners can get insider information on

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Speaker 20: the release date for Fortune fox Bro When will it be?

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 20: The sneak peak looks amazing. Keep up the great work

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01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 20: as always. Matt from Saskatchewan s gratitude. I definitely said

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 20: that on sketch guys that we're going to say the

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 20: trailer was awesome.

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Speaker 15: You did nothing.

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01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: If you want, if you don't relaxed, you did nothing.

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 20: But if you want, if you want to see more, just

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Speaker 20: stay up to date with Patriots dot com and you'll

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Speaker 20: you'll find out soon enough.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 21: Shut up nothing, We're good, all.

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Speaker 20: Right, guys, thank you for listening to p you extra,

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Speaker 20: send in your emails to podcast at patriots dot com.

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Speaker 3: If they don't get read on the show, we'll read

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:34,879
Speaker 3: them here. And now great moments in history.

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Speaker 22: I mean, I think it's a balancing act. And I

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 22: mean I think building a team, you don't want to

1541
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 22: get too young. You want to still have some veteran presence.

1542
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: But uh, but did you hear that? You know?

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 22: I also don't think you can turn it all over

1544
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 22: to we haven't even eaten yet, Fred. What are they doing, Matt,

1545
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,480
Speaker 22: Matt's going to take care of business?

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: It down?

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 22: Why was this marine must ties the bandana first for

1548
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 22: some reason?

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 20: Like what is Rambo?

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01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: Like?

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: What is that look? But I'm coming to get you, Yeah, Todd, I.

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 22: Would just say, though I think generally, you know, Paul

1553
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 22: and I are the same page. It's just like this

1554
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 22: team has to get younger.

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: They gotta get younger. And so that guy's dead now,

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01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: everybody so covering blood neutralizes the word.

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Speaker 3: We use that.

1558
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 4: The fastest I've ever seen you disposed of my body.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: That was impressive.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 4: That's good.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 13: I don't have to be a witness being on the phone.

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Speaker 21: Right, No, you don't know what happened.

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, saying he didn't see anything.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Todd, appreciate it.

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 20: That's another great moment from Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's why we put on the on air sign outside

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: so that people know there's more helped before they get

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: put out.

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 8: Today they're wowed out there.

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: Well, kenderl Mar's got a big set and clean.

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Speaker 8: I love that Math's not here today, but he set

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 8: himself up with like a nice clip that makes him

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Speaker 8: look real good.

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: Right, he knows what we doing. Patre's on filters. Sorry Alex, Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered is sponsored by the Massachusetts two fifty campaign,

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Speaker 1: anniversary of King Filters. Well, don't get me started on that,

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Speaker 1: but no one wants to talk about that one. But anyway,

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01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: we heard from Williams Kendrick Bourne when.

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Speaker 8: You brought up your books you were reading earlier.

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: I thought nobody wants to around Nobody ever wants to

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Speaker 1: hear about what books you're reading, right like, and you're

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: in your own world reading your book and you just

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01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: want to talk to somebody about it sometimes, but you

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: don't want to. There's no way to bring it out

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Speaker 1: without being like, I'm reading a book, actually, let me

1590
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Speaker 1: tell you about it.

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Speaker 8: As bad as fantasy, fantasy, but.

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Speaker 4: Rather listener, you talk about the books that you're reading

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Speaker 4: than someone's fantasy. Fair enough the golf game.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I just feel like we're bad.

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01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 8: We sat down and the first thing you said to

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 8: me today was about holding out for one fifty.

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Speaker 4: Did I tell you anything else?

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Speaker 8: No, No, just that you know someone all hold out

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Speaker 8: from one.

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Speaker 1: That's not exaggerated on that's ridiculous. That's pretty good though,

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 1: And so now you're you're back in on golf. That's

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01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: how it works with golf, right like, you hit one

1603
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: really because I retired, I can't wait to get back out.

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01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: So guys, we heard from Williams and Kendrick Wormer over

1605
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: there speaking a little bit. Caught some of the highlights.

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne very excited to have Josh McDaniel's back, probably

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: no surprise had maybe the best year of his career

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: there with Josh back in twenty twenty one, and No

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: Williams had thought out a good story that everybody tweeted out.

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: You know, somebody tells the story to podium. He gets

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: seventeen different accounts from it within three seconds. But he

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: said he was leading a sprint race and kind of

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: let up a little bit at the end, and Rabel

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: yelled at him a little bit and said, you know,

1615
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: you got to set the tone. Don't wait up for

1616
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: anybody you know'll finish as hard as you can. So

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01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: in a little little glimpse behind the curtain there of

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Speaker 1: of Mike Rabel with mil Williams, who's going to be

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: a huge part of this team this year, arguably the

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: biggest free agent signing, not just for this team, but

1621
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: one of the biggest free agency fishes this year. Talking

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: to Derek Haynes at Derek Havens and Steve Balas Schueri yesterday,

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01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: who said hello on their podcast, but they had a

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: good question.

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Speaker 4: Two of my favorite blogger types.

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01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh great guys, But we were talking just a little

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01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: bit about the defensive line, as you know, I am,

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: I am want to do. That's probably why they had

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: you on. Yeah right, that's exactly right. But just wondering

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: how it's gonna all come together. It seems like Barmore

1631
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: has been around, which is encouraging. All we know is

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: we've seen him in pictures working out here, which I

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: just take as a positive sign. I don't know what

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: his prognosis is right now, if he's beyond it, if

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: he's still dealing with it, but he's here. That's encouraging.

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01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: Getting him and Milton Williams out there at the same time,

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: that feels like that's the special sauce for this Patriots defense.

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: If they can get those two guys, and this defense

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: has largely been remade, I think schematically it's going to

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: be all new to us, and you guys all make

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: fun of me, but I'm excited to get out there

1642
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: and just see what it looks like a little bit.

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01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: Last point, I just want to bring up Paul, because

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it. Was Terrell Williams, which was

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 1: also announced Friday you brought that had a health issue.

1646
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: Spoke with reporters on Friday afternoon, catching people up really

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: His message was, don't take things for granted, take care

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: of yourself. I think he's intimated that he had taken

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: things a little bit for granted, maybe not taking as

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: good a care of himself as maybe he could have said.

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: He's still been very involved with the team, checking in

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: via zoom, all that stuff. Hopefully he's back soon. And

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: he lastly had high praise for Zach Kerr, who was

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: with him in Tennessee, who will be kind of running

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: the defense, leading the defense at least in person until

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: Terrell Williams is able to get back. So unfortunate news

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01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: kind of the first little bit of I don't know,

1658
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 1: think it didn't break great for the Patriots.

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: I would say this offseason. Otherwise, they've had.

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: A pretty good offseason and things have generally broken in

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01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: their favor. But we'll see when he's able to get back.

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 4: So hope he can get back sooner than it.

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 8: Was encouraging that he was able to hop on a

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,839
Speaker 8: zoom because to me, it looks like he's probably trending

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 8: towards getting better and coming back, or as if I

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01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 8: think it were still a more dire situation, maybe they

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 8: would still just be like they.

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Speaker 1: Let him speak for himself, right, I mean that was

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01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: Brabel came out, made the announcement and then said we're

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna actually let you guys speak with Terrell in person

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: on Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was encouraged by that too, and again just had

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: such he got really emotional talking about Mike Rabel and

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: what Mike Frabel is meant to him from the trailer

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 1: we saw earlier a couple of weeks ago for Fortune

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: in Foxborlle. He said, you know, yes, the opportunity to

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: be a defensive coordinator was the reason to come here,

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01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: but really the biggest reason was Mike Rabel. So you

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01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: just like you see the loyalty from the guys that

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,520
Speaker 1: he's worked with, that they want to work with him.

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean stretch John Striker was out with the Rams.

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know exactly. I think it was

1684
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: game management kind of stuff, but still an excellent organization

1685
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 1: out there in the Rams there one year. Didn't hesitate

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: jump right back to Mike Frabel. Seem everybody knew that

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: that was going to happen as well. Uh just says

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: it means good things to me. I just no one's

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01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: surprised that I'm excited about my friend Will being the

1690
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: coach of this team, but everything that's kind of gone

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: on since he's got back, I just I think it's

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: it's really encouraging and it's exciting to watch this football

1693
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: team come together. I've only I was leaning about it, PAULI,

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: I've only I've seen like, oh, I've seen three coaches

1695
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: like here, you've only seen four. You've been here like five.

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: Times last year Peter Carold was my first year.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 23: Other than that, because in my mind, I was trying

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 23: to compare, like, because we've seen some joint practices too,

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 23: so I have some experience seeing how other teams kind

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 23: of run things a tiny bit.

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: It's always when you do those joint practices, it's always

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: geared towards joint practices, so you don't know if you're

1703
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: getting the real practice. Example was when we were down

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: in Philly, remember a couple of years ago, everyone were

1705
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: talking about Philly's doing shorter practices. There we went and

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: then yeah, it was it was a very different practice

1707
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: than we were used to watching for the Patriots. So

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff. Love getting the.

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 4: Same to the super Bowl twice in three years, right, true?

1710
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: Really you bring that up again.

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 4: It's amazing to be on the practice field for eight

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01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 4: hours to find a way to win games if you

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 4: have talent. But I one thing that you said that

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01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 4: I really agree with is just how the defense has

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: been remade and they're gonna be I don't know, a

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 4: half dozen minimum new starters, right, I mean Harold Landry

1717
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: and Milton Williams and Robert Splaine, not Sperlaine, but Spillane.

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean Carlton Davis, and that they're going

1719
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: to be a number of guys playing prominent roles that

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 4: are that are new. And now the you know, like

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01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: you guys know how I always operate. Mike is a

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01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 4: defense guy. I'm the concern guy. I get worried about

1723
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 4: stuff because that's just my upbringing. And how does it

1724
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 4: all fit together? How do the new how do the

1725
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 4: new piece at the most so then you even can

1726
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 4: imagine now, but how they all how the new pieces

1727
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 4: all fit together?

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01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: And what worries you most right now, Paul Perillo about

1729
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: this team Patriots.

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01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 4: For the Patriots in general, would be the offense and

1731
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 4: can they can they be better?

1732
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 11: Can?

1733
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 4: If you have to pigeonhole me into one thing, Drake May.

1734
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 4: Does Drake May take the year two jump and, you know,

1735
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 4: sort of cut back on the mistakes and become the

1736
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 4: guy that we all think he can be. Or does

1737
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: he sort of stagnate and like kind of stay that

1738
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: super talented but erratic rookie that we saw last She.

1739
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 8: Tapes out too Now, you know, like it's not like

1740
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 8: he's this young fresh guy coming into the NFL. No

1741
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 8: one really knows what to expect other than what they

1742
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 8: saw from college. And now he has a whole season

1743
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 8: that he put together and started.

1744
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: There was one player you could think of, you what's

1745
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: your number one? No, I think that that's a really

1746
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: good one. I feel like the defense will be good enough.

1747
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: I think that they have an aggressive scheme. I think

1748
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: they might get gashed at times with big plays because

1749
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: that's lived by the sword by the sword. But I

1750
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: think they'll do enough to be able to disrupt opposing offenses.

1751
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: But I guess the question I was thinking about when

1752
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: you said that is who's second behind Drake? Who can

1753
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: do the most to help Drake have that year? Is

1754
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: it Stefon Diggs getting to the level he was at

1755
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: with the Bills and what he did for Josh Allen,

1756
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: is it the offensive line getting stabilized?

1757
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 4: And I would say that, I would say the second one,

1758
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 4: and you know kind of Josh McDaniels falls into that.

1759
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 4: You know, how much better does the entire operation look

1760
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 4: because it's more cohesive in terms of its structure. And

1761
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 4: I would put that on Josh.

1762
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm interested to see. Just when we

1763
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: get out to OTAs next week, that'll be something. Again.

1764
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: It's not so much the players the performance, but just

1765
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: not that we're getting back to who has the walkie talkie?

1766
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: Remember those days in.

1767
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two, who's got the walkie?

1768
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: Who's calling the place? We didn't know? But now that

1769
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: that Josh is back, just that was I spent a

1770
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: lot of time watching him during the rookie mini camp

1771
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: practice too, but he was a little more hat hands

1772
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: off than I thought maybe he would have been. I

1773
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: don't know if if if there had been Drake May,

1774
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: was there a rookie quarterback that he really had a

1775
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: couple of kids, your kid from Brown as well as

1776
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: who is the the other player, the other quarterback? I'm

1777
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: blanking on his name, will the other guy? I got it,

1778
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: I got it written down right, let's see. That's why

1779
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: I bring my death chart everybody. Yeah, Ben Woolridge, Ben Woolridge,

1780
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: not will wolves Ridge from Louisiana. Louisiana. So I thought

1781
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: those guys looked okay, wolds Reach guy's got a chance.

1782
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just interested to see the dynamics of

1783
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: who's coaching who and who's wearing all that. We'll get

1784
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: another guns next week.

1785
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: A lot of change, a lot of change.

1786
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: Jump out Alex's Neck of the Woods and agawam, it's Patty, Hey,

1787
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: Patty going on everyone much? What's going on with you?

1788
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 13: Driving back to my shop, I'm done, I'm pretty much

1789
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 13: done with work for the day. But I just want

1790
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 13: to do all you were talking about Drake May and

1791
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 13: the second year jump, and just to kind of piggyback

1792
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 13: off of that, I'll give you one of the reasons

1793
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 13: why I'm optimistic, and that's, you know, the fact that

1794
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 13: he did look good last year. You know, he looked

1795
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,919
Speaker 13: a little erratic. But I'll say I'll kind of mammullion

1796
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 13: on that and say I think he's gonna look a

1797
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 13: lot better with this coaching staff, especially with Josh McDaniels.

1798
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 13: But another big reason why I'm I'm very optimistic. Is

1799
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 13: I just look at like the first four picks at

1800
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 13: least offensively like that they made this year, and I'll

1801
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 13: even lump in Folk. I'm not going to give up

1802
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 13: on them. You know, the Crafts, the bet this year,

1803
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 13: I'll give up on him. But like the oldest guy,

1804
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 13: the oldest guys are full twenty three. Kyle Williams is

1805
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 13: twenty three, and everyone else is younger than that. And

1806
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 13: I think if they can all develop like together and

1807
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 13: learn and you know, make mistakes and learn from their mistakes,

1808
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 13: I mean, we got even if they're all just good,

1809
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 13: good players, you know, we got a pretty good young nucleus.

1810
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 13: And I just wanted to see what you guys had

1811
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 13: to say about that. And that's it. I'll talk the

1812
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 13: guys either Thursday or next week, NICs.

1813
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: Patty, to find out how competition plays out.

1814
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 4: Hard to say I'll tell you about the young nucleus

1815
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 4: this time next year. I have no idea. Yeah, I

1816
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 4: mean I didn't really get the whole youngest thing. What

1817
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 4: about Diggs, what about Bourn, Hunter, Henry? I mean, those

1818
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 4: are the guys that I think are going to be instrumental.

1819
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 4: I would even throw to Mario Douglas in there, if

1820
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 4: it's going to be we're just going to rely on

1821
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,799
Speaker 4: Kyle Williams as a rookie third round pick and Jalen

1822
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: Polk to somehow overcome his struggles from a year ago.

1823
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to be in great shape,

1824
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 4: but I would expect Digs to at least be competent.

1825
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 4: At the very baseline, he's going to be a competent receiver.

1826
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: I think to Mario Douglas will benefit from being a

1827
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniel's scheme. And I think Kendrick Bourne, as you

1828
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 4: mentioned a little while ago, had his best year as

1829
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 4: an NFL player, So can Josh mcgenial still tap into that.

1830
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 4: Or they look at Born and say he's a guy

1831
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 4: we need to move and we need to make way

1832
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 4: for Kayshawn Booty. But those are the guys like I

1833
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 4: don't really care how old they are now. Is it

1834
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: a nice thing if Kyle Williams turns in let's just

1835
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 4: see seventy seventy five catch, eight hundred yard season as

1836
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 4: a rookie, Well, that is fantastic to have a young

1837
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 4: receiver like that that can go the next four or

1838
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: five years with Drake May, that would be absolutely ideal,

1839
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 4: but I don't need it to be that way. I

1840
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 4: don't have any problem if it's to Mario Douglas making

1841
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: that leap or Stefan Diggs sort of solidifying the whole

1842
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 4: thing and making making life easier on on Drake May.

1843
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 4: I don't really care how it happens. Would it be

1844
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: ideal if it's it's a couple of the younger guys

1845
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 4: Jalen Polk bounces back, and everything that we thought we

1846
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 4: saw in training camp last year we see this year

1847
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: in the regular season.

1848
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 15: Great.

1849
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah's who's the chain mover? That's my question.

1850
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 4: Because I think it's got to be Douglas. I mean,

1851
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 4: but if you go to the whole Josh McDaniels thing

1852
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 4: with that volume slot.

1853
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: Guy, doesn't he scare you with him as a volume guy?

1854
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1855
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: With his size.

1856
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and his catch radius he's small, feels like And

1857
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 4: now Welker had a small catch radius and he caught

1858
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 4: a million passes. So I'm not telling you it can't happen.

1859
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: They're all just so specific, and it's born has an

1860
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: element of run after catch. I would say he's a

1861
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a gadget kind of a guy. Booty

1862
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: is an outside guy who was pretty much shots right

1863
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: shots to him.

1864
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 4: I mean there wasn't a lot of but Henry can

1865
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 4: do that too. Henry can chain mover kind of thing.

1866
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: That's why I still hold out a little bit of

1867
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: hope for Jalen Polk. I just I think he's got

1868
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 1: the size. I don't know if he has the quickness

1869
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: necessarily to get open as consistently as Josh might like

1870
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: him to, but his physicality it stands out to me.

1871
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 4: And just gonna make a prediction. Ready for a prediction,

1872
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 4: let's go. Fred always likes to tease me because I

1873
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 4: pre arrange my fights in my head. Right, I invent

1874
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 4: that he Polk had a great campus.

1875
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: No he didn't.

1876
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 4: That's going to be the debate. That's my prediction. There

1877
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 4: are going to be an element of people saying bounce

1878
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 4: back year two. Yet, well, I mean, look, look, everybody

1879
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 4: wrote off Polk, and then there's gonna be another segment

1880
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 4: of fans that are going to say, yeah, we wrote

1881
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 4: them off, and he said, this is what we saw

1882
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 4: last year, he thinks, and who knows who's gonna end

1883
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: up being right. But that's gonna happen. There's going to

1884
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: be a wildly differing opinion on Jalen Polk once training

1885
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 4: camp is over.

1886
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: He's intriguing to me just the way that Josh views

1887
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: his skill set and how he can play with that

1888
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: A little bit. I think I don't know how.

1889
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 4: To compare him to like with Josh as had in

1890
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 4: the past, Givens.

1891
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Is that wrong? You saw more Givens in person than

1892
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: I ever did, But I just see him as a

1893
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: bigger kind of physics.

1894
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 4: So I would say if he was Givens, that's kind

1895
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 4: of feeding into what I'm saying about how wildly different

1896
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 4: people's version are going to be. Like he could play

1897
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: like that and a lot of people would say, yeah,

1898
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: he's a bust and he could play like that, and

1899
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 4: a lot of people say, see he's got something. You know.

1900
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 8: I wonder how much of it was mental for him

1901
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 8: last year.

1902
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: I think it was a big like it was a

1903
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 4: big part of me. That's why I worry about it.

1904
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 8: Getting one? Was it once or twice early in the season.

1905
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: That well, there was one he didn't get feet inbounds,

1906
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: and I think he thought was a big drop. And

1907
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: then there was one in the back of the end

1908
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: zone that his heel came down, and I think he

1909
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: thought of it.

1910
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 4: And my bigger problem was that he thinks he was

1911
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 4: in he thinks they were catches. That's my bigger problem

1912
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: with it. And so instead of just saying ah, and

1913
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 4: I was close, Yeah, what could have been, It's like

1914
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 4: I'm now I'm fighting everybody.

1915
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 8: And then wasn't there a thing where Gerrod was kind

1916
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 8: of just chalking it up to like it's a mental thing,

1917
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 8: he'll learn and he'll grow. And then he walked. He

1918
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 8: kind of contradicted.

1919
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 4: That he got met like, yeah.

1920
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 8: A maturity, mental thing. Hopefully he gets past that this year.

1921
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 8: That's my opinion.

1922
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. That was the biggest problem, Alex,

1923
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 4: and that's why I'm worried about it. Well, that's it's

1924
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 4: hard to just sort of magically fix. Well.

1925
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 8: I wonder if Rabel will just kind of just demand

1926
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 8: a lot better, Like I think Rabel commands a room

1927
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 8: differently than Gerrod did, whereas I think they all really

1928
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 8: liked Gerad. But it's like it's your friend, it's not

1929
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 8: your I don't know.

1930
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. And again, this is

1931
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: going to go back to what I said of not

1932
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: trying to crap on last year's not But do you

1933
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: feel like that offensive coaching staff brutal gave him enough

1934
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: tools to be successful, and once things started to go sideways.

1935
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 4: With it, they gave him too much too soon.

1936
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: Well, I know they said that. They said that, and

1937
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't really what I was trying, And that wasn't

1938
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: really what I was trying to get at. It was

1939
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: more just they didn't know how to save them. They

1940
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't know how to when you see a receiver, maybe

1941
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: you have experienced with this Paul hitting a wall or

1942
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: hitting a rookie wall. That happens a lot, how to

1943
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: get somebody out of that funk. Because for him, after

1944
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: that moment with his heel in the end zone, it

1945
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: was a consistent.

1946
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 4: But that's my point about why I worry more about

1947
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: the mental because if you just look, he drops some

1948
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: passes last year. Receivers drop passes sometimes. But if you

1949
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 4: if you're really having a problem with concentration, focus catching

1950
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 4: the ball, you just I mean, you're catching a thousand

1951
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: balls off the drugs machine before every practice, you know,

1952
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 4: you just really like, I gotta focus. It's a physical

1953
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: thing and I can get over the hump. Yes, it's

1954
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 4: part of it is mental, but it's a physical thing.

1955
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,799
Speaker 4: I need to catch the ball. When it's a mental

1956
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,799
Speaker 4: thing and you're dealing with these kinds of it's it's hard.

1957
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 8: Like media asking about it always constantly.

1958
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 4: But you know, like I was, this is going to

1959
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 4: come as a shock to most. Like when I when

1960
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 4: I played, when I pitched in college and my whole life,

1961
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 4: I was always hard on you know, the umpires, Like

1962
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 4: the umpires would drive me crazy, right, and I never

1963
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: wanted to be that guy, but I always ended up

1964
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: being that guy all the time, no matter how much

1965
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 4: I thought about it, no matter how much I I

1966
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 4: focused on. Okay, no matter what happens today, I'm not

1967
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 4: going to give the umpire a hard time, not going

1968
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: to give him a second look. I'm not gonna bitch.

1969
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna pitch. I should have used that, right.

1970
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 4: I never I was never brought enough to come up

1971
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 4: with that back in the day. But I would. I

1972
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: would sit there and I would pitch, and I would

1973
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 4: go like six innings, seven innings, and I'd be like

1974
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 4: I felt like the Empire didn't miss one pitch. This

1975
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 4: is like great you know, five innings, six innings, seven innings.

1976
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I have like a two to

1977
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 4: two pitch in in the eighth inning, and he missed it,

1978
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 4: and he missed it, and I'd lose my have a

1979
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 4: love in mind?

1980
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Now you miss one like one pitch.

1981
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 4: I was like, what happened? You had this whole thing

1982
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 4: like you would go. You were staying calm today, And

1983
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 4: as soon as I thought I got wronged once, I would.

1984
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 4: I would flip, you know, not openly, but I would.

1985
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I would.

1986
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 4: It would bother me.

1987
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 8: Perspectives, every would bother me, perspectives everything, Like if you

1988
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 8: think the world's out to get you, yes, you think

1989
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 8: the world's.

1990
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 4: Out there, the world is all to get you something,

1991
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 4: it's probably not. I tell Mike all the time. Just

1992
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 4: because I'm parano, it doesn't mean they're not ought to

1993
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: get me.

1994
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: It's a classic VIC quote right there, right jumping back.

1995
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I got an over under game here from Kyle I

1996
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: believe in Pembroke. Yeah, there's only one Kyle, and he's

1997
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: from Pembroke. Over unders, guys, here we go wins seven

1998
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: point five.

1999
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: It's a good number, and go over. It's a good number.

2000
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say over because I want

2001
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 4: to be positive.

2002
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. You can be negative in some of

2003
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: these other ones.

2004
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 4: May passing TDS thirty point five under.

2005
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a big number. I'm gonna go under.

2006
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: Two May interceptions ten point five over, it's a good number.

2007
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: Diggs receiving yards eight hundred point five, it's gonna say

2008
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: a thousand yard seasons.

2009
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say under on that.

2010
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say little pup, Pup, pup, pup.

2011
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 4: I could, yeah, I could change that based on eleven games.

2012
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 4: What I see, what he's able to do as the

2013
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 4: off these nunfolds.

2014
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the positivity theme.

2015
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 4: But what you said, you said pop for Diggs.

2016
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Pop.

2017
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 4: If he starts on pup, I don't think he's gonna

2018
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: get eight hundred yards.

2019
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: So that's an easy way to say it. Eleven games only,

2020
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: But he was on track for a thousand yards last year.

2021
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 4: Yes, just barely.

2022
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Williams Kyle Williams receiving yards four hundred point five,

2023
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: it's a solid number.

2024
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: Just staying positive. I think I'm gonna say it over.

2025
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 8: I'm gonna stay over to because it's just interesting how

2026
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 8: it's gonna shake out with how many guys they have,

2027
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 8: you know, like there's so much competition at that position.

2028
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: We're going to so many questions on that over the

2029
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: next two months leading up to start. I'm just gonna say, now,

2030
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone probably will get hurt and someone

2031
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: will get cut that you don't expect, but it's hard

2032
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: to say right now. Gonzo interceptions three point five.

2033
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under on that. Yeah, they think

2034
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 4: people are going to stay away from.

2035
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Them, they don't throw them.

2036
01:31:59,280 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

2037
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: Key On White sacks five point five.

2038
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 4: Take the over on that. I don't think that's a

2039
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 4: very big number.

2040
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Take the over two. I'm gonna surprise some people with that.

2041
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: I think the other guy's getting more attention. Maybe free

2042
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 1: some things up for key On White to dominate games

2043
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: scoring thirty plus points Paul two point five. I gotta

2044
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: get back on my number of when the last time

2045
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: they exceeded thirty points was.

2046
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under, but that's that's a low number.

2047
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: Two and a half. I mean, you get a couple

2048
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 4: of pick sixes in the scene, you know what I mean, Like.

2049
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go over bridany alex positivity training.

2050
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 4: There you go, all right, yeah, I'll change. I'll go

2051
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 4: over just to stay on the positive.

2052
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: One more game scoring less than twenty five, ten point five.

2053
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Under ten point five eleven times they're going to score.

2054
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 4: Oh my god, under twenty five?

2055
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are you doing here?

2056
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: I can't you know what. I can't do it again.

2057
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 4: I can't keep doing it. Got a punt, punt punt?

2058
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 4: Oh man, I can't do it.

2059
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Tim from Lington Spy ponders, say, Tim, what's going on?

2060
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 16: Hey guys, how's it going? I have two quick things,

2061
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 16: and the first one is a serious football question, and

2062
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 16: the second one since I've been listening to Unfiltered slash

2063
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 16: PFW in progress since I was in college, it's directly

2064
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 16: specifically at Paul Perlo. I just have a question insights,

2065
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 16: Oh all right, my football question that I'm happy to

2066
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 16: take both off air. My football question real quick is

2067
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 16: I know Josh's going to have a new system for

2068
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 16: direct well not a new system, but he could have adjusted.

2069
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 16: It's not going to be the same as Brady. He

2070
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 16: adjusted with Cam. He adjusted you know, in Oakland or

2071
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 16: Las Vegas. YadA, YadA, YadA, But my football question, and

2072
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 16: then I'll ask my TFW question, is what made Josh's

2073
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 16: system so much more complicated? It's the minds of some

2074
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 16: because I listened to NFL players, like even receivers who

2075
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 16: quote unquote got it, like Brandon Marshall talked about how

2076
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 16: he had many playbooks throughout his career, and Josh's system

2077
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 16: was by far the most complicated. Everyone keeps saying getting

2078
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 16: on the same page as quarterbacks if I take it

2079
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 16: that side adjustment, and there's players that said the route

2080
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 16: would change three times sometimes after the snap. That was

2081
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 16: a Patriots player to one of the Boston media. But

2082
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 16: I can't imagine Josh's system is the only system with

2083
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 16: side adjustments and it's not the only iteration of the

2084
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 16: Earnhart Perkins. So the football question is what made what

2085
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 16: made Josh's system more complicated? And are there any worries

2086
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,480
Speaker 16: for receivers like Polk even if it's not as complicated

2087
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 16: as he has to think more and a large partisan

2088
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 16: issues were with concentration. And then my PFW question, And

2089
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 16: I waited ten plus years fast this because I didn't

2090
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 16: want it to be in bad taste. But Paul, do

2091
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 16: you remember when Eric went on his safari to Africa.

2092
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 4: I do do you remember how I think Andy kept

2093
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 4: joking about him getting eaten by a lion, and you know, hey,

2094
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: it would have been a bad event, but it would

2095
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 4: have been a good story, great, great story. I believe

2096
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 4: you called it him.

2097
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 16: Exactly well. Andy at the time, I think was also

2098
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 16: training for the Boston Marathon, and there was some jokes

2099
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 16: made that hey, if something happened, you know, it might

2100
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 16: be bad, but it'd be a great story. And then

2101
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 16: obviously the tragedy of this, yeah, you know, the marathon.

2102
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 16: My question is, what was the reaction, you know, after

2103
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 16: everyone knew everyone was okay and Andy got back in

2104
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 16: the studio, was it.

2105
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 13: Like a oh crap.

2106
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 8: Uh?

2107
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 16: Yeah, I can really hear the great story stuff afterwards.

2108
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 4: I think you did the right thing, tim by waiting years,

2109
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,560
Speaker 4: ten years to do that, because I do think it

2110
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 4: would have been perceived to have been in poor taste.

2111
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 4: It did leave an impact. Andy's family was very near

2112
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 4: the finish line at the time, so yeah, it would

2113
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 4: have been definitely no matter how soon you did it, it

2114
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 4: would have been too soon in my mind for Andy.

2115
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I know where you're going. I see

2116
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 4: where you're going. It's one thing to sort of joke

2117
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 4: around about something that didn't happen and joke around what

2118
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 4: something that did happen was that impactful?

2119
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Tim appreciated, what good question.

2120
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 4: I do think that the Iarhart Perkins system relies a

2121
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: lot on post snap adjustments and whatnot. I think that's

2122
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: part of But I think what made it so complicated,

2123
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 4: I think was Brady's advanced nature of it and his

2124
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 4: ability to do more. It's probably the same kind of playbook,

2125
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 4: but maybe Raiders receivers and Bronco's receivers didn't take it

2126
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 4: as being as difficult as some Patriots did. And I

2127
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 4: put that because Brady was just at such an advanced level.

2128
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great way to put it.

2129
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: It's something that I think it's forgotten when you talk

2130
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: about the complexity of the system. And I mean, I've

2131
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: been just as guilty saying that post snap reads are

2132
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: a big part of it. I think Evan would push

2133
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: back on that too and say there are a lot

2134
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of teams that do that.

2135
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2136
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: I think another part of it too, though, is that

2137
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: you learn concepts, you don't really learn routes, and so

2138
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: you learn concepts and then you can theoretically be moved

2139
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: to any position on the offense. So it's not just

2140
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: learning your spot, it's learning a more holistic approach, like

2141
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: looking the big picture of how I can get it.

2142
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: But I think you're totally right, Paul. With Brady, I

2143
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: don't think he gets enough. And look, what do you

2144
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: expect him to do? I mean, the guy's awesome. He's

2145
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 1: been in the same system forever. He's got a high standard.

2146
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: You've heard it now where he'd say players like you

2147
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 1: run it that way, you ain't getting the ball like

2148
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that was how Tom Brady was. The hope

2149
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: is that now Josh has started over with Drake may

2150
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: and it's more of the base level, and that this

2151
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: group can grow together. That goes to what one of

2152
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: the earlier callers just said about the young nucleus. Well,

2153
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: all right, it's great if Kyle Williams and you know,

2154
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: these guys can all understand it together and that together,

2155
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Patty said.

2156
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 4: And that's a great point that you bring up, Mike,

2157
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: because I don't remember a lot of people in the

2158
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 4: first iteration of the dynasty talking about how complicated the

2159
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 4: offense was, and that's probably not a coincidence because Brady

2160
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 4: was at the same level in that offense as Troy

2161
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 4: Brown and David Gibbons and David Patton and those guys

2162
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 4: that were all, you know, a big part of his weapons.

2163
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 4: The second part of the Dynasty, Brady is now at

2164
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 4: a you know, super level PhD compared to the receivers

2165
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 4: that are coming into it. He just laughs or makes

2166
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 4: it more complicated, and.

2167
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: He could just look at Josh and be like Cleveland

2168
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Yeah, that's or like that shorthand we experienced

2169
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,520
Speaker 1: something little flex.

2170
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 4: Right there by Deuce because I don't know if you

2171
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 4: know this, Alex, but Mike and I sat down and

2172
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 4: we talked with Josh McDaniels, you know, about some of

2173
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 4: brad comebacks, so you know, and when some of this

2174
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 4: was on camera, some of it was off. We were

2175
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: just riffing, you know, we're just talking ball, chewing the

2176
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 4: fact we're just talking ball. You know, we're talking offense

2177
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 4: in particular passing game. But that was the kind of

2178
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 4: stuff that that Josh would throw out. Like we got

2179
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 4: to a point where we could just look and we

2180
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 4: talk about our game plan and be like, oh so

2181
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 4: like Cleveland and whatever. Yeah, right, you know that that

2182
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 4: game that we did this, this and this because Cleveland

2183
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 4: was doing that and they just knew exactly instinctively what

2184
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 4: each other was talking about. Why it is different now,

2185
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 4: It's also.

2186
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 8: Like, at the same hand, well, Tom and Josh are

2187
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 8: just becoming like they're molding into almost maybe like the

2188
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 8: same brain. Offensively, I don't watch enough college football to

2189
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 8: speak to this, but I hear like the game's really

2190
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 8: been dumbed down significantly.

2191
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 4: I picked this is an element of truth.

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01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 8: So you're also you're getting these two guys that work

2193
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 8: together so long, and then you have guys coming in

2194
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 8: who are used to the dumbing down to the college game,

2195
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 8: and then it's probably a lot for them to take in.

2196
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I mean I think that's I think

2197
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 4: there's some truth to that.

2198
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: You just you can't expect in I think any industry

2199
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: to walk into a room where there are two guys

2200
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 1: who have worked together for twenty years and in an

2201
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: environment where it's rapid and you have to be on

2202
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: top of everything, and these guys just know how to

2203
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: do it together too. Then I feel for some of

2204
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: these wide receivers that would come in and I think

2205
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: some of it was still misscouting and not quite understanding it.

2206
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think Brady always held

2207
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: the bar so high for these guys and he never

2208
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: really got it was always the system. It was never

2209
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 1: really like Tom, could you just go a little easy

2210
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: on mkill Harry for a couple of months and let

2211
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: him get some confidence before you start not throwing the

2212
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: ball to him anymore.

2213
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: But not every guy who failed failed because he couldn't

2214
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 4: pick the system up. You know, like a guy like

2215
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 4: Ocho Sinko probably struggled, you know, mentally, you know, learning

2216
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 4: the system. But like Aaron Dobson and Taylor Price, and

2217
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 4: you know, there was those endless string of love saying

2218
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 4: them of second and third round receivers that came in.

2219
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 4: They didn't all fail because they couldn't pick the system up.

2220
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 4: Some of them probably did, But it wasn't all about that.

2221
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 4: Nikhil Harry's problem wasn't mental. He wasn't that good, wasn't

2222
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:00,440
Speaker 4: that talented.

2223
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, they're giving you

2224
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: a playbook with the answers to the test. And I

2225
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: would hope that if you're diligent and you study that

2226
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: you cannot understand mentally, maybe physically it might not translate,

2227
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: but like there's not a lot of excuse to like,

2228
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I just don't understand.

2229
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 4: Maybe another sort of really off the wall example. I

2230
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 4: remember when they traded in what it was it eighteen

2231
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 4: or nineteen whenever from Mohammed Sanu, and he came in

2232
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 4: and he got like ten passes like one of the

2233
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 4: first weeks he was here against Baltimore in that blowout loss.

2234
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 4: But he was on the same page with Brady immediately.

2235
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 4: He was a veteran who came in and he picked

2236
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: it up. Now physically he wasn't the same guy anymore,

2237
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 4: and I think he actually hurt his ankle in that

2238
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 4: Baltimore game. He was a bit player the rest of

2239
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 4: the way. He never really did anything. It was bad

2240
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 4: trade as a result, they got too much for him.

2241
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 4: But mentally he picked it up. He physically couldn't be

2242
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 4: that guy anymore. Second round pick, Yeah, think you have

2243
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 4: a second round pick for him player. Most of it's

2244
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 4: goat to Ohio, talk to Brad, Hey.

2245
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,799
Speaker 6: Brad, hey, crew, how are you doing this afternoon?

2246
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Good? Are you man?

2247
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 6: Think? Pretty good? So just to reiterate and go back

2248
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 6: on a couple of callers and Jalen Pope. First of all,

2249
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 6: you know, I know you all probably agree the amount

2250
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 6: of dysfunction that our offense was in last year, and

2251
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 6: even the offensive line and the rookies that we had.

2252
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 6: I mean, it's probably just hard to press to kind

2253
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 6: of judge them based on how it functional and ankally

2254
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 6: incompetent the whole coaching staff was compared to what we

2255
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 6: have now, especially so I mean, I'm not even going

2256
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 6: to say that they can't play or anything until I

2257
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 6: acted to see him in a Josh McDaniel's offense where

2258
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 6: they may have an opportunity to flourish some like some

2259
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 6: of these just see as you were speaking at but

2260
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 6: the givers where you know they weren't super gifted their

2261
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 6: mark players d M brands, and they put right in

2262
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 6: with Josh McDaniels. And then I think Polk had storted

2263
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 6: like Brandon Lafel maybe or Malcolm Mitchell if he could

2264
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 6: turn into something like that, maybe, But what do you

2265
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 6: think about that, about how much dysfunction that we were

2266
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 6: just trying to weep through last year to get them

2267
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 6: on their and then mentally they didn't have no one

2268
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 6: there to go to, like Jared Mayo just wasn't I

2269
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 6: don't think capable of being able to harness their emotional

2270
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 6: distress and that in that regard. So what do you

2271
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 6: think about that stuff?

2272
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks Brad, anybody we got.

2273
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 4: I think it's an awfully optimistic way of looking at

2274
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 4: your talent. Like it was all the coaches fault. Maybe

2275
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 4: it was. I don't know. Like I've heard a lot

2276
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 4: of I feel a lot better about X, Y and Z.

2277
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 4: I would probably tell you that I do too, but

2278
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. I felt pretty good about a lot

2279
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 4: of the things left. You know, Scott Peters came over

2280
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 4: last year as the offensive line coach, and he worked

2281
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 4: under one of the best offensive line coaches to who

2282
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 4: has ever done it right in Callahan, Bill Callahan. Now

2283
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 4: you're calling him dysfunctional. Maybe he was. I don't know.

2284
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 4: I'm not behind the scenes. You guys were all talking

2285
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 4: about the strike system and all these different things that

2286
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 4: they were doing that were innovative or you know, a

2287
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 4: better way to do not innovative, but maybe a better

2288
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 4: way to go about it from a physical, you know,

2289
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 4: technical standpoint. Now we're calling all those same things that

2290
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 4: at this time last year I was being told how

2291
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 4: much better it was, and now it's all dysfunctional. Maybe

2292
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 4: it was, but maybe this is going to be dysfunctional too.

2293
01:44:59,280 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2294
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 8: Well, if you want to talk about dysfunctional, that year

2295
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 8: prior with Patricia felt like the most dysfunctional.

2296
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely didn't even have you didn't even have

2297
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 1: a strike system.

2298
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 4: So relative to Adrian Klim was the offensive line coach

2299
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 4: two years ago and like halfway through the year he

2300
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 4: was gone, and then Bill O'Brien was forced to run

2301
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,879
Speaker 4: the offensive line meetings as well as run the offense.

2302
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: Like that's dysfunction. No, like they actually didn't physically have

2303
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 4: coaches in place. O'Brien was doing it all.

2304
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 8: I know, here's dysfunctional the offense.

2305
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 4: So like, I don't know what it's going to be

2306
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 4: like this year. I mean, they have like three offensive

2307
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 4: line coaches. Is that is that a recipe for dysfunction? Maybe?

2308
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I saw the development though, from

2310
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: going from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four where

2311
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: you had Scott Peters. Wow, we just have an offensive

2312
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: line coach. Now we seem like we have like the

2313
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: correct whole position.

2314
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 4: Everything was going to be better and.

2315
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: Then this year you still have that. So I like that,

2316
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: But I like your point. People want to get, you know,

2317
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: carried away right now. Everyone should be positive right now

2318
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL. If you can't be positive right now

2319
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: when you're zero at zero and you got two months

2320
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: before training camp, I feel bad for you. But you're right.

2321
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: And that's what's great about this game is that until

2322
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: you get on the field, guys start hitting other guys,

2323
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: injuries start to pile up. How the teams manage those

2324
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: things you don't truly know.

2325
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 4: Like if you think they went four and thirteen last

2326
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 4: year because of coaching dysfunction, then I think that you're

2327
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 4: being very optimistic because it wasn't just about I mean,

2328
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 4: and I'm not telling you there was no coaching dysfunction.

2329
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 4: There was, yeah, but they had a talent deficiency across

2330
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 4: the board that led to the coaching dysfunction. They went

2331
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 4: four and thirteen the previous year with the same kind

2332
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 4: of talent. They brought it all back. The reason why,

2333
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 4: if you're going to put a gun to my head

2334
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 4: and say you got to pick one or the other,

2335
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,679
Speaker 4: do you think they'll be better or the same. I'm

2336
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 4: definitely saying better because I think Mike Rabel and Elliott

2337
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 4: Wolf and Ryan Cowden went to work in this off

2338
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 4: season and said the problem is the players. We need

2339
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 4: better players, and they went out and signed fifteen sixteen

2340
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 4: free agents, ten or twelve of which I think are

2341
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 4: going to be very important players for this team. They're

2342
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 4: not all gonna hit, because they never all hit, but

2343
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 4: I think there's a better chance that they get ten

2344
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 4: or twelve guys that are playing significant roles and contributing

2345
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 4: that are gonna be better than the guys they replaced.

2346
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 4: If that happens, you'll be better. But I can't possibly

2347
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 4: know that for sure without having seen it.

2348
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: I left that practice on Friday with the hope, seeing

2349
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: how involved Mike Fable was that this is the kind

2350
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: of coach that can take a player who hasn't quite

2351
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: broken out yet but can provide the conditions where this

2352
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: player can excel. We saw a little bit of that

2353
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: last year. I would say Drake ish, I wouldn't like,

2354
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: wow when amazing. I mean, he had his issues last year,

2355
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: for sure, but generally I think he looked competent and

2356
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: was able to demonstrate the quality skills that he has.

2357
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: But otherwise on the roster. Last year, it maybe Ben

2358
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: Brown is another example of somebody who came out of

2359
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: nowhere and at least was serviceable played.

2360
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: But is that are You're going to be happy if

2361
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 4: Ben Brown's in the.

2362
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: Center And that's and that's that that goes to the

2363
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 1: heart of the point I'm trying to make, is that's

2364
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: just last year there wasn't a blossoming of a player

2365
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: that comes out of nowhere. And it happens a lot

2366
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 1: across the league. There's always, you know, and I credit

2367
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 1: a lot of that to coaching. When those unique players

2368
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden blossom. You don't know why or how,

2369
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: but and that's what I just am hoping. I'm not

2370
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: sure great.

2371
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about like the secondary and they've upgraded

2372
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 4: the number two cornerback spot with Carlton Davis, and we

2373
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 4: know Gonzo is there and he's you know, second team

2374
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 4: All Pro, so we feel good about him. They might

2375
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 4: need a third guy because Marcus Jones hasn't been able

2376
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 4: to make it through full seasons here, so they might

2377
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 4: need someone to augment him. If Craig Woodson could be

2378
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 4: one of those guys that sort of blossoms into something

2379
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,759
Speaker 4: a little bit more than you think. He was obviously

2380
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 4: someone they felt really good about. He was a high

2381
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 4: fourth round pick, which means you come into Day three

2382
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 4: and Day three opens, you had the whole night to

2383
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 4: think about it. They traded a lot in Day three.

2384
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 4: They moved around a lot. They didn't move out of

2385
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 4: that spot because I think that they identified this guy

2386
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 4: who had played six years of college football. I cal

2387
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 4: now full disclosure. He was one of the draft profiles

2388
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 4: that I wrote. So, yeah, but you get on board

2389
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 4: when you when you talk to these coaches and it's yea,

2390
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 4: is it an exception?

2391
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 8: I feel about the kicker, let's go look, but it's.

2392
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 4: Like an exceptional young man. You hear these kinds of

2393
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 4: things and you're like, and you can.

2394
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 8: Even just in the draft. I don't know if you

2395
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 8: guys were probably doing the show, but he probably stuck

2396
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 8: out to me the most in the post dropt interview,

2397
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 8: like right after being picked, it's like, Wow, this kid,

2398
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 8: you can just tell is super intelligent.

2399
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 4: He was described to me as an A plus person,

2400
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 4: so like if he's got some ability and all of

2401
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 4: a sudden, he's like the sixth defensive back and he's

2402
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 4: playing a prominent role instead of like the Jalen Hawkins

2403
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,759
Speaker 4: of the world or the Alex Austen's of the world.

2404
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 4: Maybe he's better than those guys.

2405
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 1: I love that you brought him up, Paul, because he's

2406
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: the one player. Referenced Giardi's piece today as well, said

2407
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: the one player when you talked to split, quite sure,

2408
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 1: it seems like Ellie Wolf and company they saw something

2409
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: in him that they were willing to have a little

2410
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: bit of a gamble on. There weren't didn't feel like

2411
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: there were a lot of gambles in this class. Was

2412
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: pretty much paint by number, which I think we all liked.

2413
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 1: But he's a really interesting player to me and somebody

2414
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: that it felt like they did their own thing on him.

2415
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: And if he does blossom like that, I think it's

2416
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: a positive sign in the future that if they do

2417
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 1: go off the beaten path a tiny bit, that maybe

2418
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: they're making the right decision. We got Aldred coming in

2419
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: hot here right before the end of the show. Ha Aldred,

2420
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 1: thanks for calling.

2421
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 24: Hey, Bith Alex Aldrid, Hey, question I heard some from

2422
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 24: you earlier. Alex the picture, Yeah, where do you send

2423
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 24: it through?

2424
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 8: We are looking for you to send a photo of

2425
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 8: yourself in so that we can play I guess that

2426
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 8: regular caller game.

2427
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: I think we all know what you look like. Eldred though.

2428
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 24: I think so my email and the Twitter. Yeah, hit

2429
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 24: hit you up and pall up too.

2430
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 3: I think.

2431
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 4: I have you on.

2432
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: That's all right, You're you're in the Hall of Fame.

2433
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.

2434
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 4: P that's a different category. Mount Rushmore, pulle, Well, thank you.

2435
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 24: I appreciate it. I got two questions and I'm gonna

2436
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 24: let it go at there hit pick it off the

2437
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 24: air quick. One is I started a rookie camp somerom

2438
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 24: the pitches and stuff, and then had John Jaws one

2439
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 24: of the ones from last year with the rookie anything

2440
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 24: looking into that or they gonna do what they got

2441
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 24: they cut them at the end of the year.

2442
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 12: Or excuse me for the year start.

2443
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2444
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 24: And the other question is can anybody help feel for

2445
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 24: the fireman nor Carolina coach. I didn't like him at

2446
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 24: the GM love as the coach, but this image as

2447
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 24: a legendary.

2448
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 4: Coach, it certainly is.

2449
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 6: Thank you.

2450
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 4: The latest from Pablo Torre is that you know there's

2451
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 4: a one it becomes a one million dollar buyout on

2452
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 4: June first, and he thinks that's not not all of

2453
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 4: the rama possibility to exercise that, and he never coaches

2454
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 4: a game for North Carolina. I'd be surprised if it went.

2455
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 4: I think if you go through all of this, you

2456
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 4: got to see it through at least try to get

2457
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 4: the benefits of his coaching all the kids. But it's

2458
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 4: a mess.

2459
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: Met with and promised they came there to play for him.

2460
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 4: It's a mess.

2461
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: It's a mess. Uh, gotta get through some emails here. Sorry,

2462
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 1: didn't do a good enough job today reading.

2463
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 4: I think you are fantastic, mad you tell yourself.

2464
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 1: Sure, thank you. Listen, Luke and Virginia. I feel like

2465
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the roster is much more filled out and sturdy than

2466
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of years. But just wondering, is

2467
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: there any position group or player that you feel like,

2468
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: if they go down or if we suffer an injury

2469
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: to that position group, we're legitimately in deep do do?

2470
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Aside from Drake, love the whole PU team. Send all

2471
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: my thoughts and prayers to Evan, who's most likely in

2472
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Dante's seventh Layer right now, And the subject of the

2473
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: email is I love you, Paul. So we'll shut out

2474
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: from your own nice I've said it before. Harold Landry's

2475
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: my guy. I don't I think that's a that's a

2476
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 1: tough one. They were to lose him. I think they're

2477
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: counting on him to be their every down defensive end.

2478
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,520
Speaker 4: This is not fair what I'm going to answer, Will Campbell.

2479
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: Will Campbell, Yeah, it's a good one.

2480
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I do think that they're sort of dangerously

2481
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 4: thin at a number of spots. I think they've really

2482
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 4: I agree with him. I think they've solidified the roster

2483
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 4: in a lot of areas. They've upgraded the talent. We

2484
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 4: just kind of chronicled some of it. But if you

2485
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 4: get you know, a couple offensive line injuries, you know,

2486
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 4: if Diggs can't be healthy, I think the wide receiver

2487
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 4: group largely looks the same, which isn't good enough in

2488
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 4: my view. Splain you know, kind of like when Bentley

2489
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 4: goes on last year. Yep, Yeah, Milton Williams. I think

2490
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 4: that's a little bit.

2491
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: Maybe why Jack Gibbons is here as a little spellin insurance.

2492
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 4: You feel good about that? I mean.

2493
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: No, And I wonder who's gonna start next to Splaine.

2494
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 4: As you know, I think we're gonna hear from Gibbons Thursday.

2495
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 4: I think he said to me with the media, I

2496
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 4: want to know a little bit more about him.

2497
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Tell me tell me more about yourself.

2498
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 4: Well, no, because I kind of envisioned him as just

2499
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 4: kind of like a scrappy like you know, underdog stories,

2500
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 4: kind of special teamer who can play defense. But is

2501
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 4: he more than that?

2502
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2503
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 4: Is maybe I'm selling I'm sure, maybe I'm being Christian.

2504
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Ellen's more than that is?

2505
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

2506
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: It's where there's I think this just reinforces what you're

2507
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: trying to say. Is that splain every down player?

2508
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 4: For sure? I think, I mean what he's done in

2509
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 4: the last the racers come off the field.

2510
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: So what happens if you lose that kind of player?

2511
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 4: Now?

2512
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have a little bit of

2513
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: of depth to deal with, Like if a Gonza were

2514
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: to go down, or Carlton Davis might thrust somebody like

2515
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Alex Austin into the mix of maybe him. Those are

2516
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: always the third fourth cornerback competition.

2517
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 4: We're tight. Never spoke a little bit of a bigger,

2518
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 4: a little bit big never spoken to the man. He

2519
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 4: doesn't pp much like everybody else either a whole or

2520
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 4: he doesn't have any idea.

2521
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 1: Come out from Georgia. Number one, what do you think

2522
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: we can trade to get Trey Hendrickson to need New England?

2523
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: And how do you guys think mac Hollins can help

2524
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: this team this season? Mac Hollins probably the only receiver

2525
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: we didn't mention that talking about wide receivers. And I

2526
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: see him as in a trench number five, like who

2527
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: has some size for the outside, has some experience, can

2528
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: play a lot of special teams, has some deep playability.

2529
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I I I like the player. It's just

2530
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: he's not going to be anything. He'll be the spot piece.

2531
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 4: Someone I think will go and he'll be like four.

2532
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 8: But to me, he brings like a leadership presence to

2533
01:55:55,200 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 8: that room too. Has a real stoicism about him though

2534
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 8: so grounded literally and figuring we.

2535
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: Get to the bottom of that one. And Trey Hendrickson,

2536
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I I keep saying it. I wouldn't

2537
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 1: be opposed to adding another veteran.

2538
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 4: They certainly need a like a Clowney, they need a

2539
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 4: pass rusher, but I don't see them giving up resources.

2540
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 4: Maybe now, maybe you can get them for pennies and

2541
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 4: the dollar.

2542
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: Claire, Hi, everyone, Marine, apologies, I have missed some of

2543
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: the show making dinner, but it's anything been mentioned seen

2544
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 1: on the U d F A tight end CJ Dipprey uh.

2545
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: And Also I was gonna ask if I could participate

2546
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: in the collar quizling but totally shot me down. Yeah, Claire,

2547
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: we know what you look like. So if you can't

2548
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: do it, sorry you have to sit this one out.

2549
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 1: But we will entertain. I mean we saw CJ. There,

2550
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: he's other on the sidelines right near us in the

2551
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: practice on Friday. He was doing a little of a

2552
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: little of this, a little three point stance. We'll get off.

2553
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 4: It's time to talk to about media, right.

2554
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 1: I talked to Haven's and and and Steve and and

2555
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: Mike Debate yesterday about about you know, specifically about him.

2556
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: They asked, I just, I think you always are, like

2557
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 1: with Henry and Hooper, you're always curious if maybe a

2558
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: blocking tight end could sneak on or they just happy

2559
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: to use somebody like Cayden Wallace third third tackle tight

2560
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 1: But I think it's a you know, it's a valuable

2561
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: question if you get a guy with some stand in

2562
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 1: your pants. I said to those guys. I'm like, when

2563
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: do you think you would get to the point where

2564
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: you're like, could we just there's no more blocking tight

2565
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: ends out there, Like no tight ends can block anymore.

2566
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 1: They're all six two two forty and you know, just

2567
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: want to run around with the ball in their hands.

2568
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 4: With just the athletes. I don't blame them trying to

2569
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 4: get them in space matchup, you know, trying to get

2570
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 4: matchup nightmares.

2571
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: Not like eighty five powers. See that's but it's funny.

2572
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: It's like watching some of eighty five where we talked

2573
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: about this where the tight end was just an afterthought.

2574
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 4: All Derek Ramsey I think was a couple. It was

2575
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 4: more of like an h back pass catcher. But yeah,

2576
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 4: Lynn Dawson was what you're talking about. Rod Rutledge and

2577
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 4: oh one. He laughed at me once when I was like,

2578
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 4: do you think you'd be used more as a receiver

2579
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 4: a week? He put put his arm around.

2580
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 17: He just thoughted the laugh trains left the station. Was

2581
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 17: Wiggy was a past catcher. Wiggy was a past catcher. Ye,

2582
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 17: he was bigger, but he was more athletic than his

2583
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 17: than his parents. Let's do playing high school basketball. You

2584
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 17: covered him at East Boston High.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 4: You shut him down right, No, I covered him.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you may cover him on defense, Harold,

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: take the guy who's going to be in the NFL.

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01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 4: Looks like a good athletic matchup. I was at the

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01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 4: Herald at the time covering the games.

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Speaker 1: Forgot about your big Jay journalism background, Small j at best.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read this one from John Luke from

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01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee originally Rhode Island. I would love to be able

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01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 1: to see the Titans game as a primetime game. Not

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01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 1: being selfish since I'm going to that game. Last year

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01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 1: was my first Patriots game. Bro got video of the

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01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Drake May miracle. I'm thinking storylines for that game for

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01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: able versus old time team going against Cam Warred for sure.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Evan and Mike have been great hires. However,

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01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Evan tends to come off as wine and when defending

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01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: valid points. I figured out why Deuce wanted asking genty.

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01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: There is video of asking draft prospects their nicknames, and

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01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: one of Ashton's nicknames is Deuce, so I didn't know that.

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01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 1: So when Mike would have been interviewing you, double duces,

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01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 1: we could have we could have done the double Duce

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01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Squared two squared. I didn't know that though.

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01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 4: The curb in a hurry, didn't he?

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01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: Pep and the Deuce is a better name the Pep

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01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: in the Deuce with with Alex, we need something for

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01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: you to get you into this one.

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01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 8: Something to do with going to the bathroom. I can't.

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Speaker 8: We'll think of it.

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Speaker 1: We'll find something. All right, Well, I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for us here, guys, is that we

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Speaker 1: made it through this Tuesday without our feelish leader Fred and.

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Speaker 4: Great jobs checked it moving.

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01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Today. Allergies, allergies hitting me the hair no good. But

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Speaker 1: we will be back Thursday. We're expecting that Jack Gibbons

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01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: will stop in so we'll get to talk to him

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01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about the linebacker position. You know. I'll

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01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: be excited about that. And we should have Fred back

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Speaker 1: in the mix schedule tomorrow though, stay tuned and Yesterday

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Speaker 1: documentaries on Friday. Yeah, and we'll see. We'll do a

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01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: wellness check on Evan tomorrow. See on Thursday.

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Speaker 8: Also, make sure you follow us on the New.

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Speaker 7: Patriots Catch twenty two We'll join Evan Lazar and Alex

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Speaker 7: roster moves.

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Speaker 1: And I'm usually into the numbers. Okay, we do this.

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Speaker 1: I mean to the tangible numbers. There's two give you,

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Speaker 1: just give me your there's the advantage of the fact

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Speaker 1: you don't know how to work it. I'm surprised, you

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Speaker 1: know an old man over here. I thought maybe i'd

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Speaker 1: have to show you, like a tutorial or something.

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