WEBVTT - Why Old Heads Avoided ADD Diagnosis (With Devon Walker)

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many people who sit in first class

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<v Speaker 1>that actually pay for those tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, who didn't get bumped up or who aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like being flown on another person's dime. Oh a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people with real fucking money. And that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>the people at home should probably know. Whenever you see

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities sitting in first class.

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<v Speaker 3>May pay for that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, we think about celebrities. That's how you think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need minor sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean anybody with even like a modicum of of

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<v Speaker 1>a suh. You're on TV sometimes like, we did not

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<v Speaker 1>pay for those first class.

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<v Speaker 2>Seats, So when you see them sitting, when you see us,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll still sit in my ship.

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<v Speaker 3>You trying to shame me, but I won't.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't apologize when you see us sitting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying this, last time we were on a plane,

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<v Speaker 4>one of us was in first class. Doesn't claim to

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<v Speaker 4>be a celebrity. One of us had to get to

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<v Speaker 4>the back, so I remember, That's all I'm saying. That's

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<v Speaker 4>on the other side, that's the best time it ever

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<v Speaker 4>felt for me sitting in your first class, because every

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<v Speaker 4>other time I'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>Hoping somebody I know, kids on the never never ever once.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's sitting up way straighter, sitting up like this

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<v Speaker 3>with your drake, before y'all even touched it with, before

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<v Speaker 3>y'all even left.

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<v Speaker 2>And on of the reason I was in first classes.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like an hour flight, you remember, it was

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<v Speaker 4>like Houston or Austin. Chips in your.

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<v Speaker 5>Racist the.

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<v Speaker 3>Money turn stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell me. Should we do botch you back?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to love you?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we do bomps you back?

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<v Speaker 2>Computer love? Should we do bot you? But? I want

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<v Speaker 2>to love you? Should we do bots you back? Computer love?

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<v Speaker 2>There it is, ladies and gentlemen's little mamas and gentiles alike.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>It dives deep into the puckets of black conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>And we finally work to approve not a goddamn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not solving none of your problem.

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<v Speaker 4>No ever answers here, and you know what, guess what

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<v Speaker 4>we're trying. Yeah, that's the sad part. We love to

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<v Speaker 4>be an advice podcast. We just stay got it. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>love to tell you what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we've been telling people what to do and then

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards me and David to look at each other and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, we said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're in the car, like that was dumb, That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would we tell them to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know that problem that they're going through. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never met them before in my life. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>assess it. But here we are. I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>this a lot. I can tell you're excited. I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on my chest heavy I am. I am very

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what they do with the molestation in

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<v Speaker 1>this Michael Jackson film. I'm really pumped about how they

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<v Speaker 1>handle this.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want everybody to know I said a thing

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<v Speaker 4>about molestation earlier. I don't think as crazy is what

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<v Speaker 4>you just said.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels like the most reasonable way to feel. Yours

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<v Speaker 3>was a crazy, huge, huge jump. Brother This is something

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<v Speaker 3>that's based in This is based in fact. This film

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<v Speaker 3>is happening the other there's a speculation about character in

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<v Speaker 3>a movie that doesn't touch the subject at any time.

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<v Speaker 1>Said no, they said that Little Boy, Brother Man all Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not have a follow up film, and it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a prelude involved that.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't address that once. They took a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dookies in front of each other. Certainly that was how

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<v Speaker 1>they demonstrate brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what brothers do.

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<v Speaker 1>I always let my brother dookie while I shower. That's

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly normal. These children were raised right. I returned to

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<v Speaker 1>my premier continue. I am very excited to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they do, because they either have they have two choices

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them. They either address it poorly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be They're either going to deal with this in

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<v Speaker 1>a ship of a way, or they are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention it at all. And both of those choices

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<v Speaker 1>are so funny. I think that, man, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to mention it. You think they're not even

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is here's how I think of it. The

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<v Speaker 4>estate signed off right, his nephew is playing him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Je's who dons whoa?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was an Arab guy. No, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>TAPETI to another Arabian night. Jafar Jackson is a cold

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<v Speaker 1>ass name. That's not even his worst the worst name, son.

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<v Speaker 1>Your majesty is.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst name.

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<v Speaker 3>Son.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the order on that? Your majesty is first? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And then Jafar? Yeah, my boy?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, no, I'm in a theme now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how to hit that's.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels hard to commit to letters for names for

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<v Speaker 4>black people, specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Letters, and then royalty based on your own name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really gets complicated because I bet Jafar is

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<v Speaker 1>spelled a little bit like Jermaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I believe I bet he probably like tinkered.

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<v Speaker 4>With love that you're you're the only one here with

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<v Speaker 4>the kid, did you? Was there any want to do

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<v Speaker 4>that a little bit? Absolutely not, And respect to you

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<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I it weirds me out that my kids say my

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<v Speaker 1>last name, they say your last name, meaning like their

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<v Speaker 1>last name. They're like my kids identify with their last name,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you meant you made them call you mister

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<v Speaker 2>k like daddy Kerkman. Look, I'm not an unreasonable man,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like what I like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I think they're gonna do with the Michael Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I I do think either they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>not touch it, or they're gonna do like a like

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<v Speaker 3>a montage, like a montage like oh and then crazy

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<v Speaker 3>stuff starting out and then maybe like a news reporter

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<v Speaker 3>of being like false accusations level Michael jack Like they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna it's gonna be in like a musical number where

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<v Speaker 3>they're like they gloss over it, bro, They're just it's

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<v Speaker 3>just him, like walking into court and then it goes

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<v Speaker 3>immediately to you know, it's just like it's just a man.

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<v Speaker 2>In the mirror. But not only the song. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>editor leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, I didn't touch those kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That little white boy came on to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at your skinny little chest. I want to suck

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<v Speaker 2>on your not nipples, Michael, I can get away from you,

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<v Speaker 2>white boy. I talk like this, Michael Jackson, I talk

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<v Speaker 2>like this, man. I want to see it in theaters

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<v Speaker 2>of getting my money. It feels like we have to write. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like we need I.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to make an event out of it. In l A.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm gonna get high boy. I would like I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to do that with all of my friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Because like the music is gonna get you. Of course

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<v Speaker 4>in the end, of course it's gonna make you. Because

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<v Speaker 4>it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro that the trailer ain't nothing but his songs, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all just went, damn, it's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be that.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't see the boy act once there's no from

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<v Speaker 6>different country, which is good at that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>British guys go crazy guys, British. No, I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just just like I didn't know about the I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know about the the lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it far Jackson?

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<v Speaker 2>They gave him a prosthetic nose and and are they good?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they covering dark skin? Mic at all? I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is about as the dark as we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to me. If you're gonna do this movie, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we just why don't we just see him

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<v Speaker 3>in his early years? Why don't we just do Jackson

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<v Speaker 3>five to like thriller and then you never have to

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<v Speaker 3>touch and I'm sorry again, no pun intended, But then

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<v Speaker 3>you never.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you never have to touch the nasty stuff, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>But because as a film you don't want to know

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<v Speaker 4>what the fuck was going on during Dangerous Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 4>all I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know all his complicated years. Why did you write a

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<v Speaker 2>song called Liberian Girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I know that one? Liberian Gup,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>You came in, you changed, just like a move.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Also, keep it in the closet.

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<v Speaker 4>Felt like he was saying something, Well, have you seen

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<v Speaker 4>in that video where he's like dancing on Miami Campbell's.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not in it. We've talked about it a lot

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the most ambitious he's ever been sexually.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretending to like a lady in a video, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>He picked the baddest bitch on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Planet, put her in black and white, made her naked

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<v Speaker 1>like truly, that was the most naked I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. I think up to that point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I lived by woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that I hadn't, but like where I

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<v Speaker 1>could just watch it not not be doing something naughty nefarious,

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was the most publicly openly naked woman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he just couldn't prove it to us that

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<v Speaker 1>he liked that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a real bummer. Yeah, he tried.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest today, we haven't seen him try to fuck yet.

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<v Speaker 2>We're excited. We're excited. You're in a brand new era

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<v Speaker 2>of your life, transition, ascending beyond beyond the point that

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a huge opportunity for you to

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<v Speaker 1>get naked and full a bad bitch on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm inspired, you know what I'm saying. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen the work that you've put forth, what you put

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<v Speaker 3>in strokes on camera. I've gotten to see Reggie Conquest

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<v Speaker 3>put in camera. Did not get that part was between.

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<v Speaker 2>You and of course.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Reggie Jamel Johnson, Yeah, was underground back you would

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<v Speaker 3>have took that, brother. I can't wait to see man

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<v Speaker 3>giving back shots to.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of a fully naked Mandle just putting strokes

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<v Speaker 2>giving it man, that would have been cool. We need that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful future that we could all look for.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope to following y'all footsteps. That's sad, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could do it. I think it's coming for

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<v Speaker 3>all of us. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't really see niggas fucking on TV that much. That

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<v Speaker 3>show had a lot of fucking. It was the most

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've seen black people on TV. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't get a lot of that. They don't want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what they used to fuck on? Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys remember soul Food on Showtime?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did a lot for me. Yeah, they you

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<v Speaker 1>could count on it almost episode.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem was you had to get to a house

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<v Speaker 4>at that showtime and then you had to be alone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's asking a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta wait for everybody. You gotta hope they

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<v Speaker 3>got a certain cable package, and then everybody gotta go

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep, and you gotta go in the other room.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta they gotta trust you with their hole. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean that, Like there was never a time

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<v Speaker 1>where like a person came over and I just left

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<v Speaker 1>them alone in a room.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know what I mean, like you were

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of you're here. I'm gonna why entertain my parents?

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<v Speaker 4>My mom went out a lot, so it would be

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<v Speaker 4>like all the kids at the house and everybody went out,

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<v Speaker 4>then it's the lord of the flies in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure for sure, there's no rules that no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we got fireworks out.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys are touching parents guns? Well yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it crazy how much that happened, Like they really

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<v Speaker 4>played it up to I remember, like they're being PSAs

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff in the nineties, but like that should probably

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<v Speaker 4>happened to me ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Times where somebody pulled out their parents goun yeah, probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably for real. Tis. I knew a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Texas, so it's like I knew people who

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<v Speaker 3>had Like Mahomie, his dad was on the swat team,

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<v Speaker 3>so we had like a hit a gun safe and

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<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't fuck we wouldn't because we always were scared

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<v Speaker 3>that if we moved him he would know. We would

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<v Speaker 3>just like yeah, exactly like but we always to open

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<v Speaker 3>up the safe and just be like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's a lot of a lot of guns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I once, I think only once for me, that's that

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<v Speaker 1>a kid pulled out their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Their parents.

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<v Speaker 3>It was less gun ship for me and more like

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<v Speaker 3>uh one one nigga had like a porn DVD and

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<v Speaker 3>then he's put you know what I'm saying, Remember that

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<v Speaker 3>feels really you know, put on the on the big screen.

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<v Speaker 3>But then it's like everybody's just sitting around. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>hard but you're not doing nothing. Everybody's just like you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, there's no way to address that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's more wholesome than what they got going

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<v Speaker 3>on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the r Kelly tape got pulled out a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>on me from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, yeah, a crazy thing. You just said, Yeah, damn

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<v Speaker 4>that sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was like I didn't. I was good, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really want to have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at.

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<v Speaker 1>The time it wasn't because we didn't have the capacities

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<v Speaker 1>to right that, you know what I mean. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>knew deep down in my soul there was something not

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<v Speaker 1>good about this, but I didn't have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, y'all stop this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wa, brother, this is dangerous what we're committing to.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you talking about it in the hall, but

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<v Speaker 2>town you're from.

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly my homies mahomies from Chicago, and he talks about

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<v Speaker 3>like growing up, everybody just knew where R. Kelly would

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<v Speaker 3>be at, and so like his sister just wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the rock and roll McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like a big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like that's where R Kelly used to kill

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<v Speaker 3>it an don't be at the rock and roll McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a very it's like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very known thing in their family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just that he had spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them were high schools and were lad where

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<v Speaker 1>children hung out and that everybody knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>I go crazy. Ye shout out, baby, love you. Our

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<v Speaker 2>guests today we set up and introduced him. We still

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<v Speaker 2>haven't even finished his intro.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to do a charming thing of him having sex,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it turned into us talking about how bad

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<v Speaker 1>my city is, and I don't agree with them. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could raise my children in that violence

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I miss it every day. That said our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today, he's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him from ESML. You know him from his.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand new special on Hulu that you can watch. God

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<v Speaker 1>damn see funny A dear friend. Give it up for

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Walker. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, if you hate cops just because of cops, the

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<v Speaker 7>next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful. What's up? Yeah? Shut shutdowns over, happy to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We've fully gotten into We've gotten to what happens to

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<v Speaker 3>boys and group homes and Michael Jackson and r Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only been like fifteen minutes. No, it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>whirl win.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I think it's crazy that we do this and

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<v Speaker 4>expect for some people to give us money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really weird.

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<v Speaker 4>We're really putting filth out there. Yeah, hoping to get

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<v Speaker 4>gold back. We're going okay, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're we're not.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not in the red shut out to all the

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<v Speaker 4>new people. Don Lemon, maybe don't watch this one. Is

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<v Speaker 4>Don Lemon a fan?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we can call them man, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like he's liked a video, okay, and he's aware

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<v Speaker 3>that he's aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Don Lemon shut up for real. I won't even go crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be respectfu. We'll be yeah. Yeah, yeah, we know

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<v Speaker 2>that you have your own news channel. Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing now? He got his own joint? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>weather or actual news? Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's like doing like he's like dealing with issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But Don Lemon's style, Yeah, I think we need maybe

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<v Speaker 1>less news. Yeah, I would say so. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>if the if the news decides you're not cut out

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<v Speaker 1>for the news, you should stop being allowed to do news.

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<v Speaker 2>You just shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't be allowed to do solo news. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't be That's all social media is, though. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's just people doing solo news which way you think

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<v Speaker 3>about it? That way is pretty hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people being like I gotta report this, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>know how much of my newsfeed was just other people

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<v Speaker 4>talking about Max bbing home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I felt like I got out, like right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was everybody's celebrating in a way that makes you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, hey, these are my these are my people.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm seeing the same thing from different angles. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, it's like I'm there, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, different angles. I saw him hug french Montana,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, by the third or fourth one,

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, this is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive my forgive my ignorance. Why are they so close?

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<v Speaker 3>They were rapping together, and I think they came up together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know french Montana's origins very well.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Max b.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's to Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 8>Yah.

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<v Speaker 2>He was st he was stealing bread for him and

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<v Speaker 2>his monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Just and then Puffed Daddy saw him and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna marry the princess. Whoa bro, french Montana, He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's like, if life is about distance traveled, he

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<v Speaker 4>he went from coke boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coke boys.

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<v Speaker 3>What's also like, I think he has a really beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>career because he is one of those artists who, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're you never think about French Montana, but like when

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<v Speaker 3>you do think about like the hits that he has,

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<v Speaker 3>they're so mega, they're so monstrous, you you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. He's like very rich and successful, but like

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<v Speaker 3>also very out the way. Yeah, it feels like he's

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<v Speaker 3>not running a race against like other artists. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he makes songs for like Mountain Dew commercials, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, and like big radio hits with like

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<v Speaker 3>Swalen like stuff for like the Spider Man soundtrack, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he married a prince and then he's just over here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's ship where he went to Uganda. That song so good,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm forgetting. He figured out a way to make it

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<v Speaker 2>so really he way to make flo Riders still cool? Whoa, whoa?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Flow Rider was like, I don't I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if you think I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I am making this boy rich. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Whenever you whenever you got songs they play

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<v Speaker 3>a sea world yo.

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<v Speaker 4>Ship going is although I think Sea World's kind letting

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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>In this series. That's exactly who's about to be made.

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<v Speaker 3>I made my plea before.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think they're trying to convince us that slavery

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<v Speaker 1>is okay against I really think they're trying to tell us, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're because they're getting you to They want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with what's going on with those whales so bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too they're too desperate for that. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>do that with whales, they're gonna do it to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you they will do the same ship they

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<v Speaker 1>do to whales to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Is about to be humped over bro not as their us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the titles really turned on Sea World though, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like people are not really I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's why they're having to have like Young Jock come.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's because everybody. I feel like at this

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<v Speaker 3>point it's kind of like, well, we can't be over there.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the man. If Young Jock is coming to

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<v Speaker 4>your event, it's because the titles turned at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Young Jock came to my college, so

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<v Speaker 3>I probably didn't go to a very good school.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not know that's why wuge university year? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you graduate twenty fourteen? Yep, that's too late. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>he came out with. The hair absolutely, yeah, yeah weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like that's like if you go to like

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<v Speaker 3>a good university, because it's like I feel like other

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<v Speaker 3>kids who went to like cool private schools, they'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>like Tam and Paula came and played at my at

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<v Speaker 3>my at my college, and I'd be like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>we just we got young Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a little scrappy. Yeah, we had we had

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<v Speaker 2>Janelle Monet when she was still a robot. You were

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<v Speaker 2>on some like innovative, went to like Dartmouth and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we got her early when it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a theater where she was still crowdsurfing and adding people

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<v Speaker 1>touch her and this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa there, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's said anybody university, quite a few. We were just

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<v Speaker 3>happy to have somebody there, Okay, right what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like there was just like young Jock next

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<v Speaker 2>week Jamie Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie Kennedy followed me at one point on Instagram, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I went back and looked like a month later

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<v Speaker 3>and he unfollowed me.

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Kennedy followed me on tour for three stops once

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<v Speaker 4>whoa three stops in a row, same venue. Jamie No,

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<v Speaker 4>like he was he was either coming or had been

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<v Speaker 4>what at the venue I played?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was hard for me to understand where I

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<v Speaker 2>was in my career, like my.

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<v Speaker 3>Up or is he down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Now that's a bummer. That's a hard one. Yeah,

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it was tough. It's it's you know, I think where

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<v Speaker 2>I landed. Yeah, I can imagine. It is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those where you want to maybe you're on a flyer

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<v Speaker 2>with Jamie Kennedy once in your lifetime and you go

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<v Speaker 2>all right, yeah, you know sometimes you're going to cross

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<v Speaker 2>the paths. Yeah, but you don't want it to be

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<v Speaker 2>re stops. Yeah, that's where you start going, all right.

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh now I'm starting to worry. Yeah, yeah, I'm starting

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to starting to feel like maybe I gotta have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I got to get back to Delta our straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Devin, you you came to us, and we should maybe

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<v Speaker 3>take a break before we probably should. I think we've

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've talked.

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So long, yeah, and and so thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's been a thorough conversation that that we

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<v Speaker 1>will start with the break and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into your conspiracy because it's a it's an exciting one.

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 2>It is. It's really good. I'm excited. We're we're gonna

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 2>have some more fun more Devin Walker more.

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<v Speaker 7>My mama told me, Yeah, Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came,

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 7>Mark Zuckerberg came, many of them came numerous times. The

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 7>bankers have all come.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's coming, and you're coming back to this podcast.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to my mom and told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while, I forget what's on there,

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, things that get sent over that we go, hey,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 3>we should make this a drop or somebody sends it

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to us and thank you all.

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people send us drops, and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>always good. I especially am not always good about thanking

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you for the contributions you're making. But man, are you

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>adding to the texture of this podcast.

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, it's good to have emails. We truly appreciate it.

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's just good to be able to look through

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 4>your emails and have some new shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 4>A lot of influencer deals We're not going to do

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 4>no for like new energy drinks and protein powders.

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And whatnot for or socks compression socks. Yeah.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 4>And they always you ever noticed when they try to

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 4>send us brand deals, it's always they say me or you.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 4>It's never both, never both. It's always like, hey, Langston,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed your pod your I'm here with a great opportunity.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 4>And it always is a rude association. It'll be like

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 4>for him, it'll be like something mean.

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not good. It always it's mean whenever they're

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like at it. But they're like, David, this is for

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you and you owe me.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, do you need to exercise your cagles,

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 4>share with your fans?

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you losing roles to Reggie Conquest? And you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what the next step is, David? What

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 3>if gas station pills could be a prescription? What if

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 3>the Dick pills you had to ask.

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Your doctor for them? Bro? You know, what's what to

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the one that we got that I actually filled out.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'm gonna get picked for the Prada

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 4>the Prada Colone.

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Did they send it to your house? No?

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 3>They emailed me to ask if I wanted it, What

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>did you say? I haven't responded yet. Hey, you don't

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 3>want the along the product, just flip it, ok, yeahs

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 3>to be disappointed.

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I filled it out. But I don't think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're gonna send.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll think however they tell me to. I don't give

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a fuck.

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>We just want some free ship. Yeah that's if you know.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I need to hit them back. Yeah, you got it, bro,

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 3>get get everything you can.

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm bad about emails in general and text messages. And Devin,

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you came to us with a conspiracy that we haven't addressed.

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's been an hour. Probably not, but it's close

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>to it. But you said, my mama told me black

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>people shouldn't be diagnosed with a d D or autism

0:26:47.440 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>or it'll ruin their academic future. Incredible.

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this was the thing. I wish

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have ordered it better. But this is the

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>thing that my dad used to tell me all the time. Yeah,

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>my dad was really afraid that like if I got

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 3>like I definitely had ADHD, I definitely like needed to

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 3>get medicated for it. I just I couldn't focus for shit,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 3>especially like I couldn't do anything like at school, Like

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 3>if there was a thing where it's like, all right,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I finished this worksheet at school right now, I couldn't

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 3>do it. I had to go home and just like

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 3>be in a place where it was quiet because I

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 3>would just be talking and like doing shit.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, school was fun if you're cool, you know what.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I knew everybody.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 3>I was cool with everybody in the class, and so

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like talking to like fucking around and shit

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>like that. I really wanted to get like, you know,

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 3>I really was like, Dad, I probably need something, and

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 3>he was just like nah, He's like, you can't do that.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 3>You do that, they're gonna put you in the class

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 3>over there, and then once you went to class over there,

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to college.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>This yeah, this is a really.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's also like my dad's also like a child,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 3>like he was a kid in the sixties. Like my

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 3>dad was an older dad. She's in the sixties from

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 3>the sixties. That is actually what was happening.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 4>I'd say seventies, eighties and nineties that kids who got

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 4>bandaged to fucking the portables.

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Bro the extra.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>For us, it was a fourth floor, but it was

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>really like a floor three and a half where it

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a full extra floor. It just had one

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>entrance and one exit.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>We know they struggle with numbers and.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>They so they had to go all the way upstairs

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to the back. Every day they went to the back,

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and then they had a separate little set of stairs

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that led to like three separate classrooms and everybody with

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>any version of a learning disability was lumped together into that.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And that feels crazy.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>It's nuts.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 4>It's like, it's like, how does that not ruin the kid?

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>There's no chance that you get out of that and

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 2>go to any ivy League school whatever for.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 4>The fuck because they're separating you in a way where

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 4>it's not like, oh, I'm differently abled, which I do

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 4>think is a decent is like a good They're like,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 4>you're stupid.

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>This is where it's stupid. It's stupid in here.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Bro, you're hopeless. We plan to keep you that way.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh wow, see I kind of came on here

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to be like, man, my dad was being crazy.

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I should have should have gave me Andy'

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>were like, no, nigga, do well, I don't go over.

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're they're gonna put you on the

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>fourth floor. No lists could be true, can be true.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that we grew up in the tail

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 4>end of that because we're just a couple of years

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 4>older than you. I think we grew up kind of

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 4>in the tail end of that. I think that like

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 4>as we were towards high school age, it was getting better.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>But I think, like your dad's age, I think he's

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 4>terrible over there.

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he saw that, right, I'm sure, like did

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>he do? You tell you?

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 3>He's like, no, that happened. That's what he would always say.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>But he used to my dad, you know black dad.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like my dad, Yeah, I know, we know. We

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>also realizing who I'm okay, we both know about I'm

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>saying black dad.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>We know about you know about black dad.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 3>That's I realized in the moment that we both have

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 3>plenty of experience with black fathers. I've had a few

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>black uh step dads.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good, and only one of them during any

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>formative years.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>The rest of them, I was a grown ass man.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the worst step dad. Huh. It's it's not

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a stepdad anymore. It's just a man who's that's just my.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. I like that you made it sweet.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>That was good, you were about to take it.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I sweetness in my mind for these men.

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I feel nothing for them.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Who dated your mom? Who's beenning the bull? Was that

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 3>a black man married my mom married black man?

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>He uh married the second longest of my mom's four marriages.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Fo. Yeah.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she ain't she ain't done. I respect her,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't think she's retired. I think that

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 3>from the marriage, though.

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that her situation is complicated enough where she

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>may never get married again. But I don't think that. Instinctually,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>she goes like, whoa for it's crazy, I'm at my limit.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, man, I kind of like a shoot or shoot. Yeah.

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I like that. That's romantic to me, and that is

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 2>her position as well. She was like, nah, I love love,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I fall fast. I will not apologize for that. I

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 2>think that's brave. Yeah.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I do think it's probably done to damage to you.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Mm hm, that's correct. Yeah.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say that's two things can be.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>We can both my Legston's mother's commitment to finding partnership

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and love at all costs, and we can also acknowledge.

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>There is no life is complicated. There is no person

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>on the planet.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I admire more for their willingness to experiment with with

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>their life. Do you know what I mean, to look

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>at their situation and go I would like to try

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>something else and truly be able to commit to it

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>full throttle. I think my mom's like instincts and bravery

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>in that way are admirable. She she will always have

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>my heart in that way, and I think that her

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>decision making could use some work word.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 4>But like even you ignowledge you witnessing that led to

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 4>a bravery of your own. I think it was gonna

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 4>get a master's in poetry. Yeah, that's.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>That's like a that's like a that's like that's a you.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 4>And you went to like a real school that wasn't

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 4>even like community college, right yeah, yeah, that's.

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Like no reason to end up in comedy.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I had figured out a functional life beyond ed, you know,

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and beyond like my own education. And I do think

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>without a parent, both of my parents in a lot

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of ways being the type of people that are like,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, this is what I want to do, I

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>would not have ended up this way. They truly taught

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>me how to be like, no, live a life there

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>there is nothing else but you going to exist. And

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>if you don't commit to that, then you're not committing

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to anything. I will cherish it always. Let's talk about

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the choices. Let's just focus on we can we can

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>harness this strength?

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Sure, we can. We can be free together.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I think that sometimes you wonder though, It's like can

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 4>your parents harn it? They got what they got, and

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 4>then it's just just up to you to harness it

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 4>a little more. And the next one's gonna harness a

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.719
<v Speaker 4>little boy, you know what I mean? And then like

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 4>three generations, now you got Now you got a goku.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 2>That sucks that.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna take three generations for rest end up at

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>go who's a man's Goku's pretty good?

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Why people don't ever get you know

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>how many families got no Goku's of them? Yeah? Most

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of them? A bunch of cheese. All right?

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 4>This was as good as I could do with anime.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to relate to my friend, and I think

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>I did a pretty good job.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you have the thing whereas you're not

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>an animate guy? No?

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I watched Dragon Ball as a little kid. And then

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 4>I watched Dragon ball Z Dragon cartoon Net.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he is a little boy and he wraps

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>be careful. Is that not what?

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's and again you're being nasty. You're being nasty.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 3>How about being nasty if he's a little boy with.

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>A monkey tail and I'm saying, relax, crazy, you're being crazy.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Stop what you're doing. Which part is bad?

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>That trying to stop you and you keep saying it,

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You're being nasty.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>He's not a monkey, he's a saying. He comes from

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a different plane.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but what is the tail?

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Is the tail is their ship. That's the saying tale.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 5>They all got people, they all got they all got tailed.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 5>There's so much he's a monkey hens he turns into

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 5>a monkey, and he.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Turns into an eight, which is a form of monkey. No, no, no,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you're being you guys are being crazy.

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 7>Show.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>In the show, the main villain of the show goes

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Freezer. Freezing is a a galaxy

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>dominating force, the strongest mother fucker to ever exist, who

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>destroyed the Saying planet because the threat that they represented

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to him.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>He didn't like how strong these motherfus he blew the

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>ship up, and all he does is call them monkeys.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's an allegory for racism and sort of

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the violence against the people.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 8>I would say, well, we didn't call you a monkey,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 8>behave as such. Okay, that's what it is. What it is,

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 8>that's what it is.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 4>And my family, Okay, okay, now I understand, I understand, okay.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Right now. But I'm gonna come back strong thousand.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 3>It is if it is, if it is an allegory

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 3>for racism, I will say, it is like as as

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 3>much as like as much racism has been hurled that

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 3>black people forever, I will say, if if we actually

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 3>had some of the same stuff that a monkey.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Had, if we had.

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Watch but you are going but all I'm saying is

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 3>like if we if we if we had this, and

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh yeah, you guys kind of have the

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 3>same stuff going on. I do, Like I see, like

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 3>it's in the way that it's been thrown at black

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>people is obviously racist and fucked and unfair and like unkind.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 3>But but like I get, I get how that association

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>could be made if you have the exact same appenditure.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I'd ask you to stop tooting your butt up in

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.399
<v Speaker 2>our podcast, and I see maybe our most complicated episode yet.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd ask you all to behave for some reason. Sure,

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I understand that you are ignorant to the dragon Ball universe.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I've watched a lot of dragon Ball.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Actually, the fact that it's just a lot means that

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>you ain't really with the ship.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Sure, there's watched it all. Yeah, I've seen. I mean

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 2>I grew up during the time the Dead Zone, and

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>there ain't a one I ain't caught. I had the

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>video game, I had the one on pscan They not good?

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>But it was like I got that in Barbara to

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>or No Barbara was that like much?

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I got that in Barbershop the DVD for like my

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 3>sixth grade birthday, for like my twelfth birthday, I got

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Dragon No I was. I was, Yeah, that's doing crazy.

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I was doing good. Fuck yeah, Barbershop really hit like

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a wave. It's crazy. I will see you're from Chicago.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys love barbershop as much as everybody else?

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that's part of the Chicago lord,

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>is that we we feel deeply connected to the Barbershop franchise.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 2>It was not.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And Joelle if you disagree, I'd love for you to

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>chime in. It wasn't at all a part of They

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't They weren't tracking Chicago when they made that movie.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>They shot it there, but they weren't like being like

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we gotta be respectful of like all of what Chicago represents.

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>We're going on to the gangs and the counselor you.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean. Like it was just like, it's Chicago.

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It just happened to be there.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It was ice Cube's interpretation of Chicago.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And so in that way, whoa, that's better than young job.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>That is better than young job at.

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Your dad?

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm just trying to get us right wherever we were.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Your dad sort of threatening you, warning you that that

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you should not take this medication to me, does feel complicated.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>That's where I do worry that. Like, while I do

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>agree with the sentiment of like now I was crazy

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>how we treated you know, differently able children, in some

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>ways it does feel like, fuck, hey man, you gotta

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>give people the help that they need, regardless of like, yeah,

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the world is going to.

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Put on them.

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 4>It's a difficult thing because it's like now he's perpetuating

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 4>the third and a half floor. Yeah, but it's like

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.280
<v Speaker 4>that is such a tough That is such a tough

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 4>thing to wonder how you could get a parent to

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 4>trust in that when his his own personal experience is

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 4>so visceral and he's on the point of like he's like,

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm for real trying, you're my son. I just don't

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 4>want you to get iced out of the future, you

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? Like, do you think in like

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 4>post high school, do you think your dad is softening dependent?

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 4>Like do you say dad, I have ADHD now h No?

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean what if this is you coming out to

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 2>your dad?

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Dad?

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 2>My dad? You know my dad.

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>My dad has softened in a lot of ways, but

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 3>I do feel like he's also still just like he's

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>from where he's from and he's from the time that

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 3>he's from. Yeah, I had a pair of pink sneakers

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and my dad was like, son, I know you're bisexual.

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's so funny. So it's like, I just.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Don't know if we can get there on like a

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 3>mental diagnosis level. That's just not well. What was the

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 3>tone though, was he mad or was he like, hey,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>he was very excepting. My dad has thought my dad's

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 3>thought I was gay? Many times.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's much be hard for you because you're so tall.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 4>You know. I feel like if your son's as tall

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 4>as he does, sure and you were athletic, right, yeah,

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 4>but maybe probably he was like he was.

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, yeah, you think Magic Johnson is having the

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 3>hardest time.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he. I think he didn't see it coming.

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>EJ is big, huge, that's a big motherfucker. I mean

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>it's son of Magic, too large for his position.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, it's he's arguably one of the biggest that's

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 3>ever played that position.

0:41:58.760 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 4>That's they wanted him to be a big The point

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 4>is it was your dad like pink sneakers, I love you,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 4>welcome home.

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 3>It was not It was not hatred. But it's like

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a there's a Okay, can we uh let's let's

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 3>draw the path of my father's uh the homophobia.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So like first, all right, the first memory I have.

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Of it is when I was really little, when I

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>was like in preschool, we had like a at the

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 3>daycare I went to, they had like a like a

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 3>cooking set, like a kitchen set where you could like

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 3>put like little fake eggs on the stove, and like,

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I really liked it a lot, So I asked for

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>one for Christmas, for a kitchen set. Yeah, for a

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 3>little kitchen set, because I liked it at daycare. I'm

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 3>probably five four or five.

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah this one. I'm super little. This is what's

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>men provided for you.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>You enjoy it? Yeah, I would like to replicate that feeling. Yeah,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 3>let me everybody get on for the house, little fake

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 3>orange juice. Like I want to cook, like y'all cook,

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 3>like dot it up. I remember that Christmas, I got

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 3>a barbecue grill. I got like a fake barbecue.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 2>You got a real grill.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Cook, No, you're gonna go out cook, put some steak

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on the grill, like.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>We used charcoal in his house. Ain't gonna be no

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 2>pro paane tank.

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>And like I liked my fake grill, Like I really

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.760
<v Speaker 3>did enjoy it. But I was like, oh, this is different,

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 3>but I guess like it's I'm still fake cooking shit, right.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>And then I talked to my mom later on down

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 3>the line, and she was basically like, yeah, your dad

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 3>thought like a cooking set was gay. He thought a

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 3>cooking set was gay, so like he was like a

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 3>man grills and so like you can fake grill to

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>prepare you for like what you'll actually do.

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Who as an adult.

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>He was he was bottom of the barrel homophobic at

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>one point. And you're saying the transition has now made

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it so that he can see you in pink sneakers

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and laying on bisexual.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just be like something like I mean, I know,

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>like he'd seen me date women. Yeah, so he knows

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 3>what he's like.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Thank God, you at least have a taste for pussy.

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't got to eat it every day, that's fine,

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>shut but diverse, you need to. But it's supposed to

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>get thrown that you ain't going around from it.

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can live with this. Yeah.

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 3>So it's it was that, and then it was like, oh,

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the one time I was I was at my I

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 3>was at my house with this like other kid named

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan I used to do karate with, and we were

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 3>like truly, we were.

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Sitting on the same couch.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 3>We're sitting on the same couch, but like we had

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 3>a big blanket and the blanket was like over the

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 3>whole couch. It was like a sectional couch. I'm on

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>this side of the couch. Other kids, you're.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Black in the early we know it was a sectional yeah,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Couch.

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 3>They went all the way around and I remember my

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 3>dad coming out seeing we just two boys under the

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 3>same blanket.

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 2>My deals. He took the ship.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Off and he was like, you're not about to be

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 3>you don't need to be underneath the blank like so

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>that's so, that's five is the grill that happens at

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 3>like I'm probably like ten.

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>At that point he.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Snatched the blank He's like, why boy, y'all boys don't

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 3>need to be under the blanket.

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Your legs ain't cold.

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.399
<v Speaker 3>When when I'm eighteen, I come home from college and

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 3>my homie like really likes to cook and he had

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 3>like really.

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>All over and that's why I get it.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 3>My homie really likes to cook. He was like, yo,

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>he was like I just made I just figured out

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 3>this lasagna. He was like, he was like, can I

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 3>come over and make it? So my homie made lasagna

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 3>at my house and my dad this is I'm a

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 3>freshman in college. Yeah, my dad found out that my

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 3>homie made lasagna at the house and he sat me down.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 3>He was like, son, if there's ever anything you need

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 3>to talk to me about whoa if you want to

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.720
<v Speaker 3>He was like, you got niggas over here making pasta dishes.

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 3>He got niggas over here making pasta dishes. If there's

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 3>anything that you want to talk to me about, let's

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 3>then let's just have that conversation.

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Son, did that boy put his period blood in yell lasagna?

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Because you might be cursed? Yeah?

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 3>All real stuff.

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 2>It's all real stuff. Oh that's so funny, man. Yeah.

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Because he had to get that call, like at work

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 2>or something, He's like, he did what?

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come over with what.

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 2>College, mister Randall. I'm gonna have to take the rest

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 2>of the day. I gotta go deal with something. My son.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>He let a boy cook lozana. His boss is like,

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>oh god, it.

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.959
<v Speaker 3>Would be a very funny euphemism for somebody being gay.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, somebody's like, oh, he's a little little light

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 3>in the loafers. Oh did they be cooking lasagna at

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 3>his house? I bet he lets men prep a meal

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 3>in his kitchen, if you know what I mean.

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds like a good guy.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Though, no, he's he means well, he means well, He's

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:46.959
<v Speaker 3>just he's from a time all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we need to take one more break. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be back with more Devin Walker and more. My mama

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<v Speaker 2>told me.

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<v Speaker 4>And me want you to come back and watch this podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome back to my mom and told me, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think and I asked this to both of you,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that there still is a lingering threat

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<v Speaker 1>of diagnosis of black kids? Like, do we feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there is some remaining truth in the way that we

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 1>acknowledged our three and a half floor did exist, your

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking the portables exist? Do we still worry that like,

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>by diagnosing black children, especially too early, we are somehow

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>empowering them to be targets for separation.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think there's a million places that the system

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 4>can catch little black boys. I think that that is

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<v Speaker 4>like as far as we've come, I think that's probably

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 4>always going to be the case. So like I'm hesitant

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.479
<v Speaker 4>to say that. I don't think diagnosis is like because

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.280
<v Speaker 4>obviously get the people to help they need, like you said,

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 4>But I think it's like, man, you're a little black

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 4>boy and that's in the system, Like you fall off

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 4>for anything, you know what I mean, you really you

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 4>could really get out of here on anything, So like

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<v Speaker 4>do I think there's still like it's reasonable to be hesitant. Yeah,

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I always always always just the system, we see how

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 4>it's designed, right, you know what I mean?

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like it really is so much

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 3>a story, just like anything else. I'm just like all right,

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like where is this black boy at you know what

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying? What does his family have like access to?

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What school does he go to? You know? What

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<v Speaker 2>are the other kids in the class who are being

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with ADHD. I think there's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that I read.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to a thing the other day that was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about people who get like adderall as kids and

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of tracking the progress that they make over like

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit larger span of time, and like there's all

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:02.240
<v Speaker 1>this evidence of like immediate turnarounds for kids that start

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>taking you know, ADHD drugs, but there's not as much

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 1>statistics on like what happens beyond the immediate reactions, right,

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of what they found is statistically those

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>students do not end up doing better than they were

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 1>previously doing. Really they have like these sort of spikes,

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>but then they eventually sort of find their way back

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>to a like not you know, stellar level in their

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>school exactly. And so I wonder how much of these

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:39.439
<v Speaker 1>medications were even still going to be activating the same

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>way that we were activating at a time where like

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it was an immediate solve to a problem. I think

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>people are now a lot and you know, some of

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>it is the anti vacshit. Some of it is like

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the anti medication movement, whatever it is, but some of

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it is very real too, where you go like, well,

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know that a drug that sort of

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>changes your you know, your plants chemistry is the solution

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.879
<v Speaker 1>to in your in your lasting life. I like being

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>temporary but not forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I never got I never got on any type of medication,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do feel like some of that like kind

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 3>of stuck, you know what I'm saying. Like I just

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 3>came off of like three years of working at a

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 3>place where I was like depressed all the time. Yeah,

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:24.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. It was just like honestly,

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 3>like I really do want to, like I would like

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 3>to at some point like fully talk about that experience,

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 3>but it's like the the like news news publications keep

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>picking ship up that I say in different places in

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 3>a way that makes me want to not the news lemons,

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 3>don all come on and talk to you on your

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 3>news program. Well we'll break it down. But yeah, even

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 3>even like throughout that where I was like really depressed,

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 3>really in like a dark dark space, like I never

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I never could do it, some something that like little

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 3>piece of what my dad was telling me is like

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 3>still in there where it's like you don't need to

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>be on them drugs, like that's going to lead you

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<v Speaker 3>down like a weird path.

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I still won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think the bigger problem was how unwilling

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>we were to diagnose people. I think there was a

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>culture to not even put a label on a lot

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of the kids that we put on the third and

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a half floor and instead just put them up there

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>because they were behavioral issues, you know what I mean,

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like how you suck to teach, therefore you need to

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>be separating, and that I think is an actual violence

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 1>against people. But I do think empowering people to understand, yo,

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.879
<v Speaker 1>this is what you're experiencing, and there are other people

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>who are experiencing it, and here are options for how

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>they've solved it is what everybody should be presented with.

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not the drug is the solution. It's hey, the

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 1>drug is an option, and should you choose it? This

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 1>is what the fuck could happen. And I think unfortunately

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>we went from not diagnosing motherfuckers to then diagnosing them

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a fuck ton but only giving them one option to

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>resolving it. And I'm hoping we're towards like, hey, there

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>are eight options, bro.

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, that's what you because I think also systemically

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 4>for little black boys, behavioral problems are just like kind

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 4>of just a part of being in the system, right, yeah,

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Like so that's what I worry where it's like that's

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 4>a thing, yo, bro, like if.

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 3>You social personality dis or whatever.

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I was talking to my mom recently and she was

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 4>talking about how she had multiple teachers come at her

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 4>with kind of crazy shit, and it was just from

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 4>being a little black boy, being like I'm not particularly

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 4>poorly behaved or anything like that, you know what I mean.

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, so like that's my worry is like

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 4>you were, you're like sweeping up all these kids because

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 4>behavioral How many.

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Of these badass kids that school would do better if

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 1>their mom just didn't have to work late?

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? For true, you know what I mean? They just

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 2>had like access to vegetables, you know what I'm saying.

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>If you just gave them basic resources and like a

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 2>sincere connection with all parties that are involved, I bet

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>they can get to a place where like some of

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 2>that shit chills out for sure, and you you are

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 2>just so lacking in empathy with like their actual lived

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 2>experience that you go, I got to put a.

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Drug in that.

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you got to change the chemistry of that person,

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise they should not.

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 2>They can't even like be educated. They're animals to me.

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I get why motherfuckers are wary of the thing,

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think I wish we could we had other

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>solutions without calling the thing evil. Yeah, like I think both.

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be that thing doesn't have to

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>be fully evil, but it doesn't mean it's good for everybody,

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and everybody should be allowed the choice to decide for sure.

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Correct to all that though, to your dad, your dad's point,

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I do think there was a time you had to

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 4>be a lot more wary of it, And I understand him.

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:51.479
<v Speaker 3>Like in his time for sure.

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's like, well maybe not

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 4>all the way I guess, correct, which was correct?

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Correct? But like it. It was like a real understandable fear.

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 2>And you gotta think about what his dad taught him.

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you know what I mean. He like, man,

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 2>if you say that they're gonna shoot you in the woods.

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 4>You had a boy making for you. His dad thought

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:18.359
<v Speaker 4>he was gay just for knowing what lazagna was, what.

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 9>You pronounced that. It's no, God, damn Frenchman. I do

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 9>got a diff but like, yeah, I know, did you

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:42.879
<v Speaker 9>just really quick?

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Did y'all did y'all's moms ever hit y' all with

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 3>this type of stuff, Like, did y'all's mom's ever.

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Hit you with like you're gay? Because you did? Like blank,

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what's crazy? My mom never did.

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 4>My stepdad was nasty and joke about like of course,

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 4>not even like hit me with like anything that I did.

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 4>But he would just be like, you know, it's okay

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 4>if you're gay, ha ha, which is like a very

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 4>evil and it's just like a very nasty thing to

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 4>do to a person. But my mom, because my mom

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 4>was like when I was little, her friend came out

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 4>as lesbian and she was triny, so it was like

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 4>her mom had a tough tough time with it tiddaddy.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so my so, like.

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>My mom, he was mispronouncing something. I was like, whoa.

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, y'all talk crazy on his podcast, but

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>It was it was like I didn't know he was there.

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Brothers stick around. We hate speech with accent.

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it makes it to all that that was like

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.439
<v Speaker 10>a huge thing when she was young and my mom

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 10>got here young, so it was like my mom's she

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 10>just really open to that.

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 2>My mom was a really open person all that time. Yeah.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>My mom's best friend from growing up was a trans

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 1>woman is a trans woman.

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 3>And I think in that way, my mom didn't.

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Have progressive sort of like necessarily responses to all of it,

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>but she was fully like that's still my yeah.

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my mom's always been She's like

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:15.440
<v Speaker 4>wide open like that.

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, progressive, Devin, this was crazy. This was really fun, man.

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 2>This was a chaotic yeah wind of an episode. I

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 2>really we couldn't be more grateful you were here. Could

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you tell the people where they can find you? What

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.280
<v Speaker 2>cool shit you got going on? Y'all? Go follow my podcast.

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 2>It's called My Favorite Lyrics.

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<v Speaker 3>Lengthston has done an episode one of my favorite episodes

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 3>we did on the podcast. David did an episode that

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.439
<v Speaker 3>we did recently. This should be out. I'm not sure

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 3>when this is coming out, but it should be out soon.

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Check out my favorite lyrics wherever you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Instagram,

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 3>TikTok is on all that stuff.

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's a very fun podcast.

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 4>I had a good time. Yeah, backdrop what you got.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know when this comes out. Oh, December twelfth

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 4>and thirteenth, see me at Sports Drink in New Orleans.

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pull up. That's gonna be fun. That's my est

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 2>date for the year.

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a few dates coming up. I'm gonna

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>be in New York. I'm gonna be in Chicago December fourth.

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I added the date Chicago. You've been bitching the morning,

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you come to see us because it

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>hurts to be back there. But guess what, I'm coming

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>back December fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull up. Then you're bringing lasagna.

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm bringing lasagna.

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And if this comes out after that, then I'm deeply

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed that said there, I've got a bunch of dates

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 1>still left, and you can see all of that at

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<v Speaker 1>Langston Kerman dot com. And you shouldn't follow us. You

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