1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: There are so many people who sit in first class 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: that actually pay for those tickets. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who didn't get bumped up or who aren't. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Like being flown on another person's dime. Oh a lot 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: of people with real fucking money. And that's something that 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: the people at home should probably know. Whenever you see 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: celebrities sitting in first class. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: May pay for that shit. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: They said, we think about celebrities. That's how you think 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I don't need minor sense. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean anybody with even like a modicum of of 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: a suh. You're on TV sometimes like, we did not 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: pay for those first class. 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Seats, So when you see them sitting, when you see us, 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: I'll still sit in my ship. 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: You trying to shame me, but I won't. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: I won't apologize when you see us sitting. 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying this, last time we were on a plane, 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: one of us was in first class. Doesn't claim to 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: be a celebrity. One of us had to get to 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: the back, so I remember, That's all I'm saying. That's 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: on the other side, that's the best time it ever 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: felt for me sitting in your first class, because every 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: other time I'd be. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Hoping somebody I know, kids on the never never ever once. 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's sitting up way straighter, sitting up like this 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: with your drake, before y'all even touched it with, before 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: y'all even left. 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: And on of the reason I was in first classes. 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: It was like an hour flight, you remember, it was 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: like Houston or Austin. Chips in your. 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: Racist the. 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 3: Money turn stuff. 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: I can't tell me. Should we do botch you back? 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: I want to love you? 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Should we do bomps you back? 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Computer love? Should we do bot you? But? I want 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: to love you? Should we do bots you back? Computer love? 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: There it is, ladies and gentlemen's little mamas and gentiles alike. 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: It dives deep into the puckets of black conspiracy theory. 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: And we finally work to approve not a goddamn thing. 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: We're not solving none of your problem. 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: No ever answers here, and you know what, guess what 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: we're trying. Yeah, that's the sad part. We love to 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: be an advice podcast. We just stay got it. I'd 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 4: love to tell you what to do. 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes we've been telling people what to do and then 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: afterwards me and David to look at each other and 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: be like, we said. 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the car, like that was dumb, That's crazy. 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: Why would we tell them to do that. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know that problem that they're going through. Really, 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: I've never met them before in my life. I can't 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: assess it. But here we are. I've been thinking about 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: this a lot. I can tell you're excited. I want to. 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: It's on my chest heavy I am. I am very 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: excited to see what they do with the molestation in 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: this Michael Jackson film. I'm really pumped about how they 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: handle this. 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: I just want everybody to know I said a thing 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: about molestation earlier. I don't think as crazy is what 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: you just said. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: This feels like the most reasonable way to feel. Yours 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: was a crazy, huge, huge jump. Brother This is something 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: that's based in This is based in fact. This film 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: is happening the other there's a speculation about character in 69 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: a movie that doesn't touch the subject at any time. 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Said no, they said that Little Boy, Brother Man all Right, 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Brothers does. 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: Not have a follow up film, and it doesn't have 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: a prelude involved that. 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: They didn't address that once. They took a lot of 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: dookies in front of each other. Certainly that was how 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: they demonstrate brother. 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: You know what brothers do. 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: I always let my brother dookie while I shower. That's 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: perfectly normal. These children were raised right. I returned to 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: my premier continue. I am very excited to see what 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: they do, because they either have they have two choices 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: in front of them. They either address it poorly. It's 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna be They're either going to deal with this in 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: a ship of a way, or they are not going 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: to mention it at all. And both of those choices 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: are so funny. I think that, man, I think they're 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: not going to mention it. You think they're not even 88 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: going to bring it up. 89 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: So this is here's how I think of it. The 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: estate signed off right, his nephew is playing him. 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: It's Je's who dons whoa? 92 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was an Arab guy. No, I mean 93 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: sort of. 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: TAPETI to another Arabian night. Jafar Jackson is a cold 95 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: ass name. That's not even his worst the worst name, son. 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Your majesty is. 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: The worst name. 98 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: Son. 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: What was the order on that? Your majesty is first? Okay? 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: And then Jafar? Yeah, my boy? 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: He was like, no, I'm in a theme now, but 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't really know how to hit that's. 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: It feels hard to commit to letters for names for 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: black people, specific. 105 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Letters, and then royalty based on your own name. 106 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really gets complicated because I bet Jafar is 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: spelled a little bit like Jermaine. 108 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, I believe I bet he probably like tinkered. 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: With love that you're you're the only one here with 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: the kid, did you? Was there any want to do 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: that a little bit? Absolutely not, And respect to you 112 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: for that. 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I it weirds me out that my kids say my 114 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: last name, they say your last name, meaning like their 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: last name. They're like my kids identify with their last name, 116 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: and I go. 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: I thought you meant you made them call you mister 118 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: k like daddy Kerkman. Look, I'm not an unreasonable man, 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: but I like what I like. 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: You know what I think they're gonna do with the Michael Jackson, 121 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: You know what I I do think either they're gonna 122 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: not touch it, or they're gonna do like a like 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: a montage, like a montage like oh and then crazy 124 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: stuff starting out and then maybe like a news reporter 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: of being like false accusations level Michael jack Like they're 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be in like a musical number where 127 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: they're like they gloss over it, bro, They're just it's 128 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: just him, like walking into court and then it goes 129 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: immediately to you know, it's just like it's just a man. 130 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: In the mirror. But not only the song. I'm the 131 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: editor leave me alone. 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: Whoa, I didn't touch those kids. 133 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: That little white boy came on to me. 134 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Look at your skinny little chest. I want to suck 135 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: on your not nipples, Michael, I can get away from you, 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: white boy. I talk like this, Michael Jackson, I talk 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: like this, man. I want to see it in theaters 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: of getting my money. It feels like we have to write. Yeah, 139 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: it feels like we need I. 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: Want to make an event out of it. In l A. 141 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna get high boy. I would like I 142 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: would like to do that with all of my friends. 143 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: Because like the music is gonna get you. Of course 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: in the end, of course it's gonna make you. Because 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: it's so good. 146 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Bro that the trailer ain't nothing but his songs, and 147 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: we all just went, damn, it's gonna be great. 148 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna be that. 149 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 6: We didn't see the boy act once there's no from 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: different country, which is good at that's true. 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 2: British guys go crazy guys, British. No, I just didn't. 152 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: I just just like I didn't know about the I 153 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: didn't know about the the lineage. 154 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: Why is it far Jackson? 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: They gave him a prosthetic nose and and are they good? 156 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: Are they covering dark skin? Mic at all? I think 157 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: that is about as the dark as we're gonna. 158 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Get to me. If you're gonna do this movie, it's like, 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: why don't we just why don't we just see him 160 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: in his early years? Why don't we just do Jackson 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: five to like thriller and then you never have to 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: touch and I'm sorry again, no pun intended, But then 163 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: you never. 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: Have to. 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Then you never have to touch the nasty stuff, bro. 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: But because as a film you don't want to know 167 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: what the fuck was going on during Dangerous Yes, that's 168 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: all I want to. 169 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: Know all his complicated years. Why did you write a 170 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: song called Liberian Girl? 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 172 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I know that one? Liberian Gup, 173 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: it's not good. 174 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: You came in, you changed, just like a move. 175 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Also, keep it in the closet. 176 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Felt like he was saying something, Well, have you seen 177 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 4: in that video where he's like dancing on Miami Campbell's. 178 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: He's not in it. We've talked about it a lot 179 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: on this podcast. 180 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: It is the most ambitious he's ever been sexually. 181 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretending to like a lady in a video, for sure. 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: He picked the baddest bitch on the. 183 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Planet, put her in black and white, made her naked 184 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: like truly, that was the most naked I had seen 185 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: a woman. I think up to that point in my life. 186 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, I lived by woods. 187 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 188 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't mean that I hadn't, but like where I 189 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: could just watch it not not be doing something naughty nefarious, 190 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: I think. 191 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: I had to. 192 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: That was that was the most publicly openly naked woman. Yeah, 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: and he he just couldn't prove it to us that 194 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: he liked that. 195 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: It's a real bummer. Yeah, he tried. 196 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: He gave it a shot. 197 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Our guest today, we haven't seen him try to fuck yet. 198 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: We're excited. We're excited. You're in a brand new era 199 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: of your life, transition, ascending beyond beyond the point that 200 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: you were. 201 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: I think this is a huge opportunity for you to 202 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: get naked and full a bad bitch on camera. 203 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm inspired, you know what I'm saying. I've 204 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: seen the work that you've put forth, what you put 205 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: in strokes on camera. I've gotten to see Reggie Conquest 206 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: put in camera. Did not get that part was between. 207 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: You and of course. 208 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: You, Reggie Jamel Johnson, Yeah, was underground back you would 209 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: have took that, brother. I can't wait to see man 210 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 3: giving back shots to. 211 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: The idea of a fully naked Mandle just putting strokes 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: giving it man, that would have been cool. We need that. 213 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 214 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful future that we could all look for. 215 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: I hope to following y'all footsteps. That's sad, but I 216 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: think you could do it. I think it's coming for 217 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: all of us. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: don't really see niggas fucking on TV that much. That 219 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: show had a lot of fucking. It was the most 220 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: I think I've seen black people on TV. Yeah, you 221 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: don't get a lot of that. They don't want to see. 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: They don't want to see that. 223 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: Do you know what they used to fuck on? Actually, 224 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: you guys remember soul Food on Showtime? 225 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did a lot for me. Yeah, they you 226 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: could count on it almost episode. 227 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: The problem was you had to get to a house 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: at that showtime and then you had to be alone. 229 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: That's and that's asking a lot. 230 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta wait for everybody. You gotta hope they 231 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: got a certain cable package, and then everybody gotta go 232 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: to sleep, and you gotta go in the other room. 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: You gotta they gotta trust you with their hole. I mean, 234 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: I was like twelve. 235 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: I just mean that, Like there was never a time 236 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: where like a person came over and I just left 237 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: them alone in a room. 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what I mean, like you were 239 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: you're kind of you're here. I'm gonna why entertain my parents? 240 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: My mom went out a lot, so it would be 241 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: like all the kids at the house and everybody went out, 242 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: then it's the lord of the flies in there. 243 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: Sure for sure, there's no rules that no, no, no, 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: we got fireworks out. 245 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Did you guys are touching parents guns? Well yeah, yeah, 246 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: you guys. 247 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: Isn't it crazy how much that happened, Like they really 248 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,119 Speaker 4: played it up to I remember, like they're being PSAs 249 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: and stuff in the nineties, but like that should probably 250 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: happened to me ten. 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Times where somebody pulled out their parents goun yeah, probably 252 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: probably for real. Tis. I knew a lot of people. 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: I'm from Texas, so it's like I knew people who 254 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: had Like Mahomie, his dad was on the swat team, 255 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: so we had like a hit a gun safe and 256 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: we wouldn't fuck we wouldn't because we always were scared 257 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: that if we moved him he would know. We would 258 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: just like yeah, exactly like but we always to open 259 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: up the safe and just be like. 260 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of a lot of guns. 261 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. 262 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: I once, I think only once for me, that's that 263 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: a kid pulled out their parents. 264 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: Their parents. 265 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: It was less gun ship for me and more like 266 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: uh one one nigga had like a porn DVD and 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: then he's put you know what I'm saying, Remember that 268 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: feels really you know, put on the on the big screen. 269 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: But then it's like everybody's just sitting around. You're just 270 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: hard but you're not doing nothing. Everybody's just like you 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean, there's no way to address that. 272 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: I think it's more wholesome than what they got going 273 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: on now. 274 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: Though the r Kelly tape got pulled out a bunch 275 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: on me from Chicago. 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Chicago. 277 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: Damn, yeah, a crazy thing. You just said, Yeah, damn 278 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: that sucks. 279 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like I didn't. I was good, y'all, 280 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: I don't really want to have to. 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but at. 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: The time it wasn't because we didn't have the capacities 283 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to right that, you know what I mean. Like I 284 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: knew deep down in my soul there was something not 285 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: good about this, but I didn't have the capacity to 286 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: be like, hey, y'all stop this. 287 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, wa, brother, this is dangerous what we're committing to. 288 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: Of course you talking about it in the hall, but 289 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: town you're from. 290 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: Kelly my homies mahomies from Chicago, and he talks about 291 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: like growing up, everybody just knew where R. Kelly would 292 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: be at, and so like his sister just wasn't allowed 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,359 Speaker 3: to go to the rock and roll McDonald's. 294 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: That was like a big thing. 295 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: It was like that's where R Kelly used to kill 296 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: it an don't be at the rock and roll McDonald's. 297 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: It's like a very it's like a. 298 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Very known thing in their family. 299 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that he had spots. 300 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Most of them were high schools and were lad where 301 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: children hung out and that everybody knew that. 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: I go crazy. Ye shout out, baby, love you. Our 303 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: guests today we set up and introduced him. We still 304 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: haven't even finished his intro. 305 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: I tried to do a charming thing of him having sex, 306 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: and then it turned into us talking about how bad 307 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: my city is, and I don't agree with them. I 308 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful. 309 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. 310 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I wish I could raise my children in that violence 311 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: right now. I miss it every day. That said our 312 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: guest today, he's wonderful. 313 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: You know him from ESML. You know him from his. 314 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: Brand new special on Hulu that you can watch. God 315 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: damn see funny A dear friend. Give it up for 316 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Devin Walker. Everybody. 317 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 7: Look, if you hate cops just because of cops, the 318 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 7: next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead. 319 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: Beautiful. What's up? Yeah? Shut shutdowns over, happy to be. 320 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: It is crazy. 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: We've fully gotten into We've gotten to what happens to 322 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: boys and group homes and Michael Jackson and r Kelly. 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: It's only been like fifteen minutes. No, it's been a 324 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: whirl win. 325 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: Sometimes I think it's crazy that we do this and 326 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: expect for some people to give us money. 327 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. 328 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: That's really weird. 329 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: We're really putting filth out there. Yeah, hoping to get 330 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: gold back. We're going okay, so yeah. 331 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: No, we're we're not. 332 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: We're not. 333 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: We're not in the red shut out to all the 334 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: new people. Don Lemon, maybe don't watch this one. Is 335 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: Don Lemon a fan? 336 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if we can call them man, Yeah, okay, 337 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: he's like he's liked a video, okay, and he's aware 338 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: that he's aware. 339 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: Don Lemon shut up for real. I won't even go crazy. 340 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: We'll be respectfu. We'll be yeah. Yeah, yeah, we know 341 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: that you have your own news channel. Is that what 342 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: he's doing now? He got his own joint? Is it 343 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: weather or actual news? Nah? 344 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: I think he's like doing like he's like dealing with issues. 345 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: But Don Lemon's style, Yeah, I think we need maybe 346 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: less news. Yeah, I would say so. I would say 347 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: if the if the news decides you're not cut out 348 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: for the news, you should stop being allowed to do news. 349 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: You just shouldn't. 350 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be allowed to do solo news. Yeah, you 351 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: can't be That's all social media is, though. I know 352 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: it's just people doing solo news which way you think 353 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: about it? That way is pretty hilarious. 354 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, people being like I gotta report this, Like you 355 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: know how much of my newsfeed was just other people 356 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 4: talking about Max bbing home. 357 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I felt like I got out, like right. 358 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: It was everybody's celebrating in a way that makes you 359 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: feel like, hey, these are my these are my people. 360 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: And I'm seeing the same thing from different angles. So 361 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, it's like I'm there, you know what 362 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: I mean, different angles. I saw him hug french Montana, 363 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: and I was like, by the third or fourth one, 364 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: You're like, this is beautiful. 365 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Forgive my forgive my ignorance. Why are they so close? 366 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: They were rapping together, and I think they came up together. 367 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 368 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know french Montana's origins very well. 369 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: I know Max b. 370 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: I think it's to Aladdin. 371 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 8: Yah. 372 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: He was st he was stealing bread for him and 373 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: his monkey. 374 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: Just and then Puffed Daddy saw him and he said, 375 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: wait a minute. 376 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: He's gonna marry the princess. Whoa bro, french Montana, He's 377 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: one of the best. 378 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like, if life is about distance traveled, he 379 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: he went from coke boys. 380 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, coke boys. 381 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: What's also like, I think he has a really beautiful 382 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: career because he is one of those artists who, like 383 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: you're you never think about French Montana, but like when 384 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: you do think about like the hits that he has, 385 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: they're so mega, they're so monstrous, you you know what 386 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean. He's like very rich and successful, but like 387 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: also very out the way. Yeah, it feels like he's 388 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: not running a race against like other artists. It's like, no, 389 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: he makes songs for like Mountain Dew commercials, you know 390 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and like big radio hits with like 391 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: Swalen like stuff for like the Spider Man soundtrack, and 392 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: then he married a prince and then he's just over here. 393 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: He's ship where he went to Uganda. That song so good, 394 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm forgetting. He figured out a way to make it 395 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: so really he way to make flo Riders still cool? Whoa, whoa? 396 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 397 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Like Flow Rider was like, I don't I don't care 398 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: if you think I'm cool. 399 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: I am. 400 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: I am making this boy rich. Yeah, you know what 401 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Whenever you whenever you got songs they play 402 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: a sea world yo. 403 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 4: Ship going is although I think Sea World's kind letting 404 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 4: a lot. 405 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: In this series. That's exactly who's about to be made. 406 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: I made my plea before. 407 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I really think they're trying to convince us that slavery 408 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: is okay against I really think they're trying to tell us, hey, man, 409 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: we're because they're getting you to They want you to 410 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: be okay with what's going on with those whales so bad. Yeah, 411 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: it's too they're too desperate for that. And if they 412 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: do that with whales, they're gonna do it to us. 413 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: I promise you they will do the same ship they 414 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: do to whales to us. 415 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: Is about to be humped over bro not as their us. Yeah. 416 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: I feel like the titles really turned on Sea World though, right, 417 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: I feel like people are not really I feel like 418 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: that's why they're having to have like Young Jock come. 419 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: I think that's because everybody. I feel like at this 420 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: point it's kind of like, well, we can't be over there. 421 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: I love the man. If Young Jock is coming to 422 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: your event, it's because the titles turned at this point. 423 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Young Jock came to my college, so 424 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: I probably didn't go to a very good school. 425 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: You did not know that's why wuge university year? Did 426 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: you graduate twenty fourteen? Yep, that's too late. That's what 427 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: he came out with. The hair absolutely, yeah, yeah weird. 428 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: And it's like that's like if you go to like 429 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: a good university, because it's like I feel like other 430 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: kids who went to like cool private schools, they'd be like, oh, 431 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 3: like Tam and Paula came and played at my at 432 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: my at my college, and I'd be like, oh no, 433 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: we just we got young Jock. 434 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: We got a little scrappy. Yeah, we had we had 435 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: Janelle Monet when she was still a robot. You were 436 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: on some like innovative, went to like Dartmouth and like, yeah, 437 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: it was like crazy. 438 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we got her early when it was like 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: a theater where she was still crowdsurfing and adding people 440 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: touch her and this ship. 441 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: Whoa there, y'all. 442 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: That's said anybody university, quite a few. We were just 443 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: happy to have somebody there, Okay, right what I'm saying. 444 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: It was like there was just like young Jock next 445 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: week Jamie Kennedy. 446 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: Jamie Kennedy followed me at one point on Instagram, and 447 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: then I went back and looked like a month later 448 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: and he unfollowed me. 449 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: Jimmy Kennedy followed me on tour for three stops once 450 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 4: whoa three stops in a row, same venue. Jamie No, 451 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: like he was he was either coming or had been 452 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 4: what at the venue I played? 453 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: And it was hard for me to understand where I 454 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: was in my career, like my. 455 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: Up or is he down? 456 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Now that's a bummer. That's a hard one. Yeah, 457 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: it was tough. It's it's you know, I think where 458 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: I landed. Yeah, I can imagine. It is one of 459 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: those where you want to maybe you're on a flyer 460 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: with Jamie Kennedy once in your lifetime and you go 461 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: all right, yeah, you know sometimes you're going to cross 462 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: the paths. Yeah, but you don't want it to be 463 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: re stops. Yeah, that's where you start going, all right. 464 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 2: Uh now I'm starting to worry. Yeah, yeah, I'm starting 465 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: to starting to feel like maybe I gotta have a 466 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: conversation with somebody. 467 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: Maybe I got to get back to Delta our straight. 468 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Devin, you you came to us, and we should maybe 469 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: take a break before we probably should. I think we've 470 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: we've we've talked. 471 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: So long, yeah, and and so thoroughly. 472 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I think it's been a thorough conversation that that we 473 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: will start with the break and then we're going to 474 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: get into your conspiracy because it's a it's an exciting one. 475 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: It is. It's really good. I'm excited. We're we're gonna 476 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: have some more fun more Devin Walker more. 477 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 7: My mama told me, Yeah, Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came, 478 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 7: Mark Zuckerberg came, many of them came numerous times. The 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 7: bankers have all come. 480 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: Everybody's coming, and you're coming back to this podcast. 481 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: Welcome back to my mom and told me, you know, 482 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: every once in a while, I forget what's on there, 483 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 484 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, things that get sent over that we go, hey, 485 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: we should make this a drop or somebody sends it 486 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: to us and thank you all. 487 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: A lot of people send us drops, and we're not 488 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: always good. I especially am not always good about thanking 489 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: you for the contributions you're making. But man, are you 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: adding to the texture of this podcast. 491 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's good to have emails. We truly appreciate it. 492 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just good to be able to look through 493 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: your emails and have some new shit. 494 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 495 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: A lot of influencer deals We're not going to do 496 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: no for like new energy drinks and protein powders. 497 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: And whatnot for or socks compression socks. Yeah. 498 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 4: And they always you ever noticed when they try to 499 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: send us brand deals, it's always they say me or you. 500 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 4: It's never both, never both. It's always like, hey, Langston, 501 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: enjoyed your pod your I'm here with a great opportunity. 502 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: And it always is a rude association. It'll be like 503 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: for him, it'll be like something mean. 504 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good. It always it's mean whenever they're 505 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: like at it. But they're like, David, this is for 506 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: you and you owe me. 507 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: And it's like, do you need to exercise your cagles, 508 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: share with your fans? 509 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: Are you losing roles to Reggie Conquest? And you're trying 510 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: to figure out what the next step is, David? What 511 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: if gas station pills could be a prescription? What if 512 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: the Dick pills you had to ask. 513 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: Your doctor for them? Bro? You know, what's what to 514 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: the one that we got that I actually filled out. 515 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna get picked for the Prada 516 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: the Prada Colone. 517 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: Did they send it to your house? No? 518 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: They emailed me to ask if I wanted it, What 519 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: did you say? I haven't responded yet. Hey, you don't 520 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: want the along the product, just flip it, ok, yeahs 521 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: to be disappointed. 522 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: I filled it out. But I don't think they're gonna 523 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna send. 524 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: I'll think however they tell me to. I don't give 525 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: a fuck. 526 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: We just want some free ship. Yeah that's if you know. 527 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: I need to hit them back. Yeah, you got it, bro, 528 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: get get everything you can. 529 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 530 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm bad about emails in general and text messages. And Devin, 531 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: you came to us with a conspiracy that we haven't addressed. 532 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: And it's been an hour. Probably not, but it's close 533 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: to it. But you said, my mama told me black 534 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: people shouldn't be diagnosed with a d D or autism 535 00:26:47,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: or it'll ruin their academic future. Incredible. 536 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this was the thing. I wish 537 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: I would have ordered it better. But this is the 538 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: thing that my dad used to tell me all the time. Yeah, 539 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: my dad was really afraid that like if I got 540 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: like I definitely had ADHD, I definitely like needed to 541 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: get medicated for it. I just I couldn't focus for shit, 542 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: especially like I couldn't do anything like at school, Like 543 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 3: if there was a thing where it's like, all right, 544 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: I finished this worksheet at school right now, I couldn't 545 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: do it. I had to go home and just like 546 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: be in a place where it was quiet because I 547 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: would just be talking and like doing shit. 548 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: Well, school was fun if you're cool, you know what. 549 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: I knew everybody. 550 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: I was cool with everybody in the class, and so 551 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: I was like talking to like fucking around and shit 552 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: like that. I really wanted to get like, you know, 553 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 3: I really was like, Dad, I probably need something, and 554 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: he was just like nah, He's like, you can't do that. 555 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: You do that, they're gonna put you in the class 556 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: over there, and then once you went to class over there, 557 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: you're not going to college. 558 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: This yeah, this is a really. 559 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: And it's also like my dad's also like a child, 560 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: like he was a kid in the sixties. Like my 561 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: dad was an older dad. She's in the sixties from 562 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: the sixties. That is actually what was happening. 563 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: I'd say seventies, eighties and nineties that kids who got 564 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 4: bandaged to fucking the portables. 565 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: Bro the extra. 566 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: For us, it was a fourth floor, but it was 567 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: really like a floor three and a half where it 568 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: wasn't even a full extra floor. It just had one 569 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: entrance and one exit. 570 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: We know they struggle with numbers and. 571 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: They so they had to go all the way upstairs 572 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: to the back. Every day they went to the back, 573 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: and then they had a separate little set of stairs 574 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: that led to like three separate classrooms and everybody with 575 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: any version of a learning disability was lumped together into that. 576 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: And that feels crazy. 577 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: It's nuts. 578 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: It's like, it's like, how does that not ruin the kid? 579 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: There's no chance that you get out of that and 580 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: go to any ivy League school whatever for. 581 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: The fuck because they're separating you in a way where 582 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, I'm differently abled, which I do 583 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: think is a decent is like a good They're like, 584 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: you're stupid. 585 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: This is where it's stupid. It's stupid in here. 586 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Bro, you're hopeless. We plan to keep you that way. 587 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh wow, see I kind of came on here 588 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: ready to be like, man, my dad was being crazy. 589 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I should have should have gave me Andy' 590 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: were like, no, nigga, do well, I don't go over. 591 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you're they're gonna put you on the 592 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: fourth floor. No lists could be true, can be true. 593 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: I don't think that we grew up in the tail 594 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 4: end of that because we're just a couple of years 595 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: older than you. I think we grew up kind of 596 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 4: in the tail end of that. I think that like 597 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: as we were towards high school age, it was getting better. 598 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: But I think, like your dad's age, I think he's 599 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: terrible over there. 600 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure he saw that, right, I'm sure, like did 601 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: he do? You tell you? 602 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: He's like, no, that happened. That's what he would always say. 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: But he used to my dad, you know black dad. 604 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: It's like my dad, Yeah, I know, we know. We 605 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: also realizing who I'm okay, we both know about I'm 606 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: saying black dad. 607 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: We know about you know about black dad. 608 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: That's I realized in the moment that we both have 609 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: plenty of experience with black fathers. I've had a few 610 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: black uh step dads. 611 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: That's pretty good, and only one of them during any 612 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: formative years. 613 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: The rest of them, I was a grown ass man. 614 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: That's probably the worst step dad. Huh. It's it's not 615 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: a stepdad anymore. It's just a man who's that's just my. 616 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 617 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that you made it sweet. 618 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: That was good, you were about to take it. 619 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I sweetness in my mind for these men. 620 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: Sure, I feel nothing for them. 621 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: Who dated your mom? Who's beenning the bull? Was that 622 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: a black man married my mom married black man? 623 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 624 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: He uh married the second longest of my mom's four marriages. 625 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: Fo. Yeah. 626 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And she ain't she ain't done. I respect her, 627 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think she's retired. I think that 628 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: from the marriage, though. 629 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I think that her situation is complicated enough where she 630 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: may never get married again. But I don't think that. Instinctually, 631 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: she goes like, whoa for it's crazy, I'm at my limit. 632 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, man, I kind of like a shoot or shoot. Yeah. 633 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: I like that. That's romantic to me, and that is 634 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: her position as well. She was like, nah, I love love, 635 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: I fall fast. I will not apologize for that. I 636 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: think that's brave. Yeah. 637 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: I do think it's probably done to damage to you. 638 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: Mm hm, that's correct. Yeah. 639 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: I would say that's two things can be. 640 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: We can both my Legston's mother's commitment to finding partnership 641 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: and love at all costs, and we can also acknowledge. 642 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: There is no life is complicated. There is no person 643 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: on the planet. 644 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: I admire more for their willingness to experiment with with 645 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: their life. Do you know what I mean, to look 646 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: at their situation and go I would like to try 647 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: something else and truly be able to commit to it 648 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: full throttle. I think my mom's like instincts and bravery 649 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: in that way are admirable. She she will always have 650 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: my heart in that way, and I think that her 651 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: decision making could use some work word. 652 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: But like even you ignowledge you witnessing that led to 653 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: a bravery of your own. I think it was gonna 654 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: get a master's in poetry. Yeah, that's. 655 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: That's like a that's like a that's like that's a you. 656 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 4: And you went to like a real school that wasn't 657 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: even like community college, right yeah, yeah, that's. 658 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: Like no reason to end up in comedy. 659 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: I had figured out a functional life beyond ed, you know, 660 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: and beyond like my own education. And I do think 661 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: without a parent, both of my parents in a lot 662 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: of ways being the type of people that are like, 663 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: fuck it, this is what I want to do, I 664 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: would not have ended up this way. They truly taught 665 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: me how to be like, no, live a life there 666 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: there is nothing else but you going to exist. And 667 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: if you don't commit to that, then you're not committing 668 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: to anything. I will cherish it always. Let's talk about 669 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: the choices. Let's just focus on we can we can 670 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: harness this strength? 671 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: Sure, we can. We can be free together. 672 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: I think that sometimes you wonder though, It's like can 673 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: your parents harn it? They got what they got, and 674 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: then it's just just up to you to harness it 675 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: a little more. And the next one's gonna harness a 676 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 4: little boy, you know what I mean? And then like 677 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: three generations, now you got Now you got a goku. 678 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: That sucks that. 679 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: It's gonna take three generations for rest end up at 680 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: go who's a man's Goku's pretty good? 681 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Why people don't ever get you know 682 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 2: how many families got no Goku's of them? Yeah? Most 683 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: of them? A bunch of cheese. All right? 684 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: This was as good as I could do with anime. 685 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to relate to my friend, and I think 686 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: I did a pretty good job. 687 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: Do you do you have the thing whereas you're not 688 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: an animate guy? No? 689 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: I watched Dragon Ball as a little kid. And then 690 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 4: I watched Dragon ball Z Dragon cartoon Net. 691 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he is a little boy and he wraps 692 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: be careful. Is that not what? 693 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: Well? 694 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: Let's and again you're being nasty. You're being nasty. 695 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: How about being nasty if he's a little boy with. 696 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: A monkey tail and I'm saying, relax, crazy, you're being crazy. 697 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: Stop what you're doing. Which part is bad? 698 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: That trying to stop you and you keep saying it, 699 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: You're being nasty. 700 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: He's not a monkey, he's a saying. He comes from 701 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: a different plane. 702 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: Okay, but what is the tail? 703 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: Is the tail is their ship. That's the saying tale. 704 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 5: They all got people, they all got they all got tailed. 705 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 5: There's so much he's a monkey hens he turns into 706 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 5: a monkey, and he. 707 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: Turns into an eight, which is a form of monkey. No, no, no, 708 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: you're being you guys are being crazy. 709 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 7: Show. 710 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: Let me be clear. 711 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: In the show, the main villain of the show goes 712 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: by the name of Freezer. Freezing is a a galaxy 713 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: dominating force, the strongest mother fucker to ever exist, who 714 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: destroyed the Saying planet because the threat that they represented 715 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: to him. 716 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: He didn't like how strong these motherfus he blew the 717 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: ship up, and all he does is call them monkeys. 718 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: It's like it's an allegory for racism and sort of 719 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: the violence against the people. 720 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 8: I would say, well, we didn't call you a monkey, 721 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 8: behave as such. Okay, that's what it is. What it is, 722 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 8: that's what it is. 723 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: And my family, Okay, okay, now I understand, I understand, okay. 724 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: Right now. But I'm gonna come back strong thousand. 725 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: It is if it is, if it is an allegory 726 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: for racism, I will say, it is like as as 727 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: much as like as much racism has been hurled that 728 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: black people forever, I will say, if if we actually 729 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: had some of the same stuff that a monkey. 730 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: Had, if we had. 731 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: Watch but you are going but all I'm saying is 732 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: like if we if we if we had this, and 733 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: they're like, oh yeah, you guys kind of have the 734 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: same stuff going on. I do, Like I see, like 735 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 3: it's in the way that it's been thrown at black 736 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 3: people is obviously racist and fucked and unfair and like unkind. 737 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 3: But but like I get, I get how that association 738 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: could be made if you have the exact same appenditure. 739 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: I'd ask you to stop tooting your butt up in 740 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 2: our podcast, and I see maybe our most complicated episode yet. 741 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: I'd ask you all to behave for some reason. Sure, 742 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: I understand that you are ignorant to the dragon Ball universe. 743 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: I've watched a lot of dragon Ball. 744 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: Actually, the fact that it's just a lot means that 745 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: you ain't really with the ship. 746 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: Sure, there's watched it all. Yeah, I've seen. I mean 747 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: I grew up during the time the Dead Zone, and 748 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: there ain't a one I ain't caught. I had the 749 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: video game, I had the one on pscan They not good? 750 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: But it was like I got that in Barbara to 751 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: or No Barbara was that like much? 752 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: I got that in Barbershop the DVD for like my 753 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: sixth grade birthday, for like my twelfth birthday, I got 754 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: Dragon No I was. I was, Yeah, that's doing crazy. 755 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: I was doing good. Fuck yeah, Barbershop really hit like 756 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: a wave. It's crazy. I will see you're from Chicago. 757 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: Do you guys love barbershop as much as everybody else? 758 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's part of the Chicago lord, 759 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 3: is that we we feel deeply connected to the Barbershop franchise. 760 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: It was not. 761 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: And Joelle if you disagree, I'd love for you to 762 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: chime in. It wasn't at all a part of They 763 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: didn't They weren't tracking Chicago when they made that movie. 764 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: They shot it there, but they weren't like being like 765 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: we gotta be respectful of like all of what Chicago represents. 766 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: We're going on to the gangs and the counselor you. 767 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. Like it was just like, it's Chicago. 768 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: It just happened to be there. 769 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: It was ice Cube's interpretation of Chicago. 770 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: And so in that way, whoa, that's better than young job. 771 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: That is better than young job at. 772 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: Your dad? 773 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm just trying to get us right wherever we were. 774 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: Your dad sort of threatening you, warning you that that 775 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: you should not take this medication to me, does feel complicated. 776 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: That's where I do worry that. Like, while I do 777 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: agree with the sentiment of like now I was crazy 778 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: how we treated you know, differently able children, in some 779 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: ways it does feel like, fuck, hey man, you gotta 780 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: give people the help that they need, regardless of like, yeah, 781 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: the world is going to. 782 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: Put on them. 783 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: It's a difficult thing because it's like now he's perpetuating 784 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 4: the third and a half floor. Yeah, but it's like 785 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 4: that is such a tough That is such a tough 786 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: thing to wonder how you could get a parent to 787 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 4: trust in that when his his own personal experience is 788 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 4: so visceral and he's on the point of like he's like, 789 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 4: I'm for real trying, you're my son. I just don't 790 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 4: want you to get iced out of the future, you 791 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, do you think in like 792 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 4: post high school, do you think your dad is softening dependent? 793 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 4: Like do you say dad, I have ADHD now h No? 794 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean what if this is you coming out to 795 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 2: your dad? 796 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 3: Dad? 797 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: My dad? You know my dad. 798 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: My dad has softened in a lot of ways, but 799 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 3: I do feel like he's also still just like he's 800 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: from where he's from and he's from the time that 801 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 3: he's from. Yeah, I had a pair of pink sneakers 802 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: and my dad was like, son, I know you're bisexual. 803 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: So it's so funny. So it's like, I just. 804 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 3: Don't know if we can get there on like a 805 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: mental diagnosis level. That's just not well. What was the 806 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 3: tone though, was he mad or was he like, hey, 807 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 3: he was very excepting. My dad has thought my dad's 808 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: thought I was gay? Many times. 809 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 4: Okay, that's much be hard for you because you're so tall. 810 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 4: You know. I feel like if your son's as tall 811 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 4: as he does, sure and you were athletic, right, yeah, 812 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 4: but maybe probably he was like he was. 813 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, you think Magic Johnson is having the 814 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: hardest time. 815 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: I think he. I think he didn't see it coming. 816 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: EJ is big, huge, that's a big motherfucker. I mean 817 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 2: it's son of Magic, too large for his position. 818 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's he's arguably one of the biggest that's 819 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 3: ever played that position. 820 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. 821 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 4: That's they wanted him to be a big The point 822 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 4: is it was your dad like pink sneakers, I love you, 823 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 4: welcome home. 824 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: It was not It was not hatred. But it's like 825 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 3: there's a there's a Okay, can we uh let's let's 826 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: draw the path of my father's uh the homophobia. 827 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So like first, all right, the first memory I have. 828 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 3: Of it is when I was really little, when I 829 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: was like in preschool, we had like a at the 830 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 3: daycare I went to, they had like a like a 831 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: cooking set, like a kitchen set where you could like 832 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: put like little fake eggs on the stove, and like, 833 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 3: I really liked it a lot, So I asked for 834 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: one for Christmas, for a kitchen set. Yeah, for a 835 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: little kitchen set, because I liked it at daycare. I'm 836 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 3: probably five four or five. 837 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah this one. I'm super little. This is what's 838 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: men provided for you. 839 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: You enjoy it? Yeah, I would like to replicate that feeling. Yeah, 840 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 3: let me everybody get on for the house, little fake 841 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: orange juice. Like I want to cook, like y'all cook, 842 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 3: like dot it up. I remember that Christmas, I got 843 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: a barbecue grill. I got like a fake barbecue. 844 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 2: You got a real grill. 845 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: Cook, No, you're gonna go out cook, put some steak 846 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: on the grill, like. 847 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: We used charcoal in his house. Ain't gonna be no 848 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 2: pro paane tank. 849 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: And like I liked my fake grill, Like I really 850 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 3: did enjoy it. But I was like, oh, this is different, 851 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: but I guess like it's I'm still fake cooking shit, right. 852 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: And then I talked to my mom later on down 853 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: the line, and she was basically like, yeah, your dad 854 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: thought like a cooking set was gay. He thought a 855 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: cooking set was gay, so like he was like a 856 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: man grills and so like you can fake grill to 857 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: prepare you for like what you'll actually do. 858 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: Who as an adult. 859 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: He was he was bottom of the barrel homophobic at 860 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: one point. And you're saying the transition has now made 861 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: it so that he can see you in pink sneakers 862 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: and laying on bisexual. 863 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just be like something like I mean, I know, 864 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 3: like he'd seen me date women. Yeah, so he knows 865 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 3: what he's like. 866 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 2: Thank God, you at least have a taste for pussy. 867 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: You don't got to eat it every day, that's fine, 868 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: shut but diverse, you need to. But it's supposed to 869 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: get thrown that you ain't going around from it. 870 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I can live with this. Yeah. 871 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: So it's it was that, and then it was like, oh, 872 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: the one time I was I was at my I 873 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 3: was at my house with this like other kid named 874 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 3: Jonathan I used to do karate with, and we were 875 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 3: like truly, we were. 876 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 2: Sitting on the same couch. 877 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 3: We're sitting on the same couch, but like we had 878 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 3: a big blanket and the blanket was like over the 879 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: whole couch. It was like a sectional couch. I'm on 880 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: this side of the couch. Other kids, you're. 881 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 2: Black in the early we know it was a sectional yeah, 882 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Couch. 883 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 3: They went all the way around and I remember my 884 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: dad coming out seeing we just two boys under the 885 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 3: same blanket. 886 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: My deals. He took the ship. 887 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 3: Off and he was like, you're not about to be 888 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 3: you don't need to be underneath the blank like so 889 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: that's so, that's five is the grill that happens at 890 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 3: like I'm probably like ten. 891 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: At that point he. 892 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 3: Snatched the blank He's like, why boy, y'all boys don't 893 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 3: need to be under the blanket. 894 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: Your legs ain't cold. 895 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 3: When when I'm eighteen, I come home from college and 896 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: my homie like really likes to cook and he had 897 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 3: like really. 898 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: All over and that's why I get it. 899 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 3: My homie really likes to cook. He was like, yo, 900 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 3: he was like I just made I just figured out 901 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 3: this lasagna. He was like, he was like, can I 902 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: come over and make it? So my homie made lasagna 903 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 3: at my house and my dad this is I'm a 904 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 3: freshman in college. Yeah, my dad found out that my 905 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 3: homie made lasagna at the house and he sat me down. 906 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 3: He was like, son, if there's ever anything you need 907 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 3: to talk to me about whoa if you want to 908 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 3: He was like, you got niggas over here making pasta dishes. 909 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: He got niggas over here making pasta dishes. If there's 910 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: anything that you want to talk to me about, let's 911 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: then let's just have that conversation. 912 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: Son, did that boy put his period blood in yell lasagna? 913 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: Because you might be cursed? Yeah? 914 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 3: All real stuff. 915 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 2: It's all real stuff. Oh that's so funny, man. Yeah. 916 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: Because he had to get that call, like at work 917 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: or something, He's like, he did what? 918 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, come over with what. 919 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 2: College, mister Randall. I'm gonna have to take the rest 920 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: of the day. I gotta go deal with something. My son. 921 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: He let a boy cook lozana. His boss is like, 922 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: oh god, it. 923 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 3: Would be a very funny euphemism for somebody being gay. 924 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 925 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 3: You know, somebody's like, oh, he's a little little light 926 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: in the loafers. Oh did they be cooking lasagna at 927 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 3: his house? I bet he lets men prep a meal 928 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 3: in his kitchen, if you know what I mean. 929 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like a good guy. 930 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 3: Though, no, he's he means well, he means well, He's 931 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 3: just he's from a time all. 932 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 2: Right, we need to take one more break. We're gonna 933 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: be back with more Devin Walker and more. My mama 934 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: told me. 935 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 4: And me want you to come back and watch this podcast, 936 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 4: welcome back to my mom and told me, Yeah. 937 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: Do you think and I asked this to both of you, 938 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: do you think that there still is a lingering threat 939 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: of diagnosis of black kids? Like, do we feel like 940 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: there is some remaining truth in the way that we 941 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: acknowledged our three and a half floor did exist, your 942 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: fucking the portables exist? Do we still worry that like, 943 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: by diagnosing black children, especially too early, we are somehow 944 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: empowering them to be targets for separation. 945 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 4: And I think there's a million places that the system 946 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 4: can catch little black boys. I think that that is 947 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 4: like as far as we've come, I think that's probably 948 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 4: always going to be the case. So like I'm hesitant 949 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,479 Speaker 4: to say that. I don't think diagnosis is like because 950 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 4: obviously get the people to help they need, like you said, 951 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: But I think it's like, man, you're a little black 952 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 4: boy and that's in the system, Like you fall off 953 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 4: for anything, you know what I mean, you really you 954 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 4: could really get out of here on anything, So like 955 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 4: do I think there's still like it's reasonable to be hesitant. Yeah, 956 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 4: I always always always just the system, we see how 957 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 4: it's designed, right, you know what I mean? 958 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 2: And I do. 959 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it really is so much 960 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 3: a story, just like anything else. I'm just like all right, 961 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: like where is this black boy at you know what 962 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying? What does his family have like access to? 963 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? What school does he go to? You know? What 964 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 2: are the other kids in the class who are being 965 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: diagnosed with ADHD. I think there's like a lot of 966 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: a lot of that I read. 967 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: I listened to a thing the other day that was 968 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: talking about people who get like adderall as kids and 969 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: sort of tracking the progress that they make over like 970 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: a bit larger span of time, and like there's all 971 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: this evidence of like immediate turnarounds for kids that start 972 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: taking you know, ADHD drugs, but there's not as much 973 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: statistics on like what happens beyond the immediate reactions, right, 974 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: And a lot of what they found is statistically those 975 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: students do not end up doing better than they were 976 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: previously doing. Really they have like these sort of spikes, 977 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: but then they eventually sort of find their way back 978 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: to a like not you know, stellar level in their 979 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: school exactly. And so I wonder how much of these 980 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 1: medications were even still going to be activating the same 981 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: way that we were activating at a time where like 982 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: it was an immediate solve to a problem. I think 983 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: people are now a lot and you know, some of 984 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: it is the anti vacshit. Some of it is like 985 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: the anti medication movement, whatever it is, but some of 986 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: it is very real too, where you go like, well, 987 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't actually know that a drug that sort of 988 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: changes your you know, your plants chemistry is the solution 989 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: to in your in your lasting life. I like being 990 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: temporary but not forever. 991 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 3: I never got I never got on any type of medication, 992 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 3: and I do feel like some of that like kind 993 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 3: of stuck, you know what I'm saying. Like I just 994 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: came off of like three years of working at a 995 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 3: place where I was like depressed all the time. Yeah, 996 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was just like honestly, 997 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: like I really do want to, like I would like 998 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 3: to at some point like fully talk about that experience, 999 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: but it's like the the like news news publications keep 1000 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 3: picking ship up that I say in different places in 1001 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: a way that makes me want to not the news lemons, 1002 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: don all come on and talk to you on your 1003 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: news program. Well we'll break it down. But yeah, even 1004 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 3: even like throughout that where I was like really depressed, 1005 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: really in like a dark dark space, like I never 1006 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: I never could do it, some something that like little 1007 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 3: piece of what my dad was telling me is like 1008 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 3: still in there where it's like you don't need to 1009 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 3: be on them drugs, like that's going to lead you 1010 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: down like a weird path. 1011 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: I still won't do it. 1012 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: And I do think the bigger problem was how unwilling 1013 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: we were to diagnose people. I think there was a 1014 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: culture to not even put a label on a lot 1015 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: of the kids that we put on the third and 1016 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: a half floor and instead just put them up there 1017 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: because they were behavioral issues, you know what I mean, 1018 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: like how you suck to teach, therefore you need to 1019 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: be separating, and that I think is an actual violence 1020 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: against people. But I do think empowering people to understand, yo, 1021 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: this is what you're experiencing, and there are other people 1022 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: who are experiencing it, and here are options for how 1023 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: they've solved it is what everybody should be presented with. 1024 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: It's not the drug is the solution. It's hey, the 1025 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: drug is an option, and should you choose it? This 1026 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: is what the fuck could happen. And I think unfortunately 1027 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: we went from not diagnosing motherfuckers to then diagnosing them 1028 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: a fuck ton but only giving them one option to 1029 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: resolving it. And I'm hoping we're towards like, hey, there 1030 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: are eight options, bro. 1031 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's what you because I think also systemically 1032 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 4: for little black boys, behavioral problems are just like kind 1033 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 4: of just a part of being in the system, right, yeah, 1034 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 4: Like so that's what I worry where it's like that's 1035 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 4: a thing, yo, bro, like if. 1036 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 3: You social personality dis or whatever. 1037 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 4: I was talking to my mom recently and she was 1038 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 4: talking about how she had multiple teachers come at her 1039 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 4: with kind of crazy shit, and it was just from 1040 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 4: being a little black boy, being like I'm not particularly 1041 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 4: poorly behaved or anything like that, you know what I mean. 1042 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 4: But it's like, so like that's my worry is like 1043 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 4: you were, you're like sweeping up all these kids because 1044 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 4: behavioral How many. 1045 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: Of these badass kids that school would do better if 1046 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: their mom just didn't have to work late? 1047 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? For true, you know what I mean? They just 1048 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: had like access to vegetables, you know what I'm saying. 1049 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: If you just gave them basic resources and like a 1050 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: sincere connection with all parties that are involved, I bet 1051 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 2: they can get to a place where like some of 1052 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: that shit chills out for sure, and you you are 1053 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 2: just so lacking in empathy with like their actual lived 1054 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: experience that you go, I got to put a. 1055 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 3: Drug in that. 1056 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to change the chemistry of that person, 1057 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: because otherwise they should not. 1058 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: They can't even like be educated. They're animals to me. 1059 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I get why motherfuckers are wary of the thing, 1060 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: and I think I wish we could we had other 1061 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: solutions without calling the thing evil. Yeah, like I think both. 1062 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be that thing doesn't have to 1063 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: be fully evil, but it doesn't mean it's good for everybody, 1064 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: and everybody should be allowed the choice to decide for sure. 1065 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 4: Correct to all that though, to your dad, your dad's point, 1066 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 4: I do think there was a time you had to 1067 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 4: be a lot more wary of it, And I understand him. 1068 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,479 Speaker 3: Like in his time for sure. 1069 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's like, well maybe not 1070 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 4: all the way I guess, correct, which was correct? 1071 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 2: Correct? But like it. It was like a real understandable fear. 1072 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 2: And you gotta think about what his dad taught him. 1073 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what I mean. He like, man, 1074 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 2: if you say that they're gonna shoot you in the woods. 1075 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 4: You had a boy making for you. His dad thought 1076 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 4: he was gay just for knowing what lazagna was, what. 1077 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 9: You pronounced that. It's no, God, damn Frenchman. I do 1078 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 9: got a diff but like, yeah, I know, did you 1079 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 9: just really quick? 1080 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 3: Did y'all did y'all's moms ever hit y' all with 1081 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 3: this type of stuff, Like, did y'all's mom's ever. 1082 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: Hit you with like you're gay? Because you did? Like blank, 1083 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: Oh you know what's crazy? My mom never did. 1084 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 4: My stepdad was nasty and joke about like of course, 1085 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 4: not even like hit me with like anything that I did. 1086 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 4: But he would just be like, you know, it's okay 1087 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 4: if you're gay, ha ha, which is like a very 1088 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 4: evil and it's just like a very nasty thing to 1089 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 4: do to a person. But my mom, because my mom 1090 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 4: was like when I was little, her friend came out 1091 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: as lesbian and she was triny, so it was like 1092 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 4: her mom had a tough tough time with it tiddaddy. 1093 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so my so, like. 1094 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: My mom, he was mispronouncing something. I was like, whoa. 1095 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 3: I was like, y'all talk crazy on his podcast, but 1096 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 3: I know. 1097 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 2: It was it was like I didn't know he was there. 1098 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 2: Brothers stick around. We hate speech with accent. 1099 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, it makes it to all that that was like 1100 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,439 Speaker 10: a huge thing when she was young and my mom 1101 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 10: got here young, so it was like my mom's she 1102 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 10: just really open to that. 1103 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: My mom was a really open person all that time. Yeah. 1104 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: My mom's best friend from growing up was a trans 1105 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: woman is a trans woman. 1106 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 3: And I think in that way, my mom didn't. 1107 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: Have progressive sort of like necessarily responses to all of it, 1108 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: but she was fully like that's still my yeah. 1109 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my mom's always been She's like 1110 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 4: wide open like that. 1111 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, progressive, Devin, this was crazy. This was really fun, man. 1112 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 2: This was a chaotic yeah wind of an episode. I 1113 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 2: really we couldn't be more grateful you were here. Could 1114 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 2: you tell the people where they can find you? What 1115 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 2: cool shit you got going on? Y'all? Go follow my podcast. 1116 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 2: It's called My Favorite Lyrics. 1117 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 3: Lengthston has done an episode one of my favorite episodes 1118 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 3: we did on the podcast. David did an episode that 1119 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 3: we did recently. This should be out. I'm not sure 1120 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 3: when this is coming out, but it should be out soon. 1121 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 3: Check out my favorite lyrics wherever you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Instagram, 1122 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 3: TikTok is on all that stuff. 1123 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's a very fun podcast. 1124 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 4: I had a good time. Yeah, backdrop what you got. 1125 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 4: I don't know when this comes out. Oh, December twelfth 1126 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 4: and thirteenth, see me at Sports Drink in New Orleans. 1127 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, pull up. That's gonna be fun. That's my est 1128 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: date for the year. 1129 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a few dates coming up. I'm gonna 1130 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: be in New York. I'm gonna be in Chicago December fourth. 1131 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: I added the date Chicago. You've been bitching the morning, 1132 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, and you come to see us because it 1133 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: hurts to be back there. But guess what, I'm coming 1134 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: back December fourth. 1135 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: Pull up. Then you're bringing lasagna. 1136 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm bringing lasagna. 1137 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: And if this comes out after that, then I'm deeply 1138 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: embarrassed that said there, I've got a bunch of dates 1139 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: still left, and you can see all of that at 1140 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: Langston Kerman dot com. 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