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Speaker 1: It's weird hunt shirt. It's very nice shirt you can

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Speaker 1: an old bust and there's a lot of rips, so

423
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: they would just spit into the rips of the bus seats.

424
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: After a while, the bus started to smell like rot

425
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: and chew, so they sum up a sting operation. He said,

426
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: the bus driver just inexplicably, in the middle of the ride,

427
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: stops the bus and runs back to catch everybody. Everybody

428
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: tried to attempt to spit out there chew, but a

429
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: lot of them got busted. All involved were suspended, made

430
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: to clean the bus from top to bottom, and they

431
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: had to buy new seat covers and install those seat covers.

432
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: On top of that, his parents grounded him for a month.

433
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Moving on one of major correction. A major correction we

434
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: covered very heavily. These boys in Michigan. They were trapping

435
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: beavers and they were getting harassed. They're getting harassed. They're

436
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: traveling beavers in the area where there's an h O A.

437
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: And they do all their homework and they realized that

438
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: by God, we have legal access, legal right to catch

439
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the beavers. And they go and make some sets and

440
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: someone comes out and writes what they write no more

441
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: something like that. Someone comes out and like throws a

442
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: rock and they're like springs or trap or the rock,

443
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: like drops a rock on their three thirty Connor bear

444
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: and springs it and they wrote no more on the ice.

445
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: So then these guys set up a trail camp and

446
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: on the trail cam they get a little group of

447
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: h o A people standing around staring at their beaver

448
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: traps and they're thinking, ah, the culprits caught them red handed.

449
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: Then we had them call in the show. And when

450
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: they called into the show, they were talking about we

451
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: know who did it. We got him on camera, like

452
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: it's them against the h o A. They were like

453
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: circles on the images to figure out who is who.

454
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're being like Joe Detective. Well they had

455
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the good the goodness to write in and explain they

456
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: now have a major update. When when they put the

457
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: trail cam up and got a bunch of people staring

458
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: at their traps, guests, who was staring at their traps?

459
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: It was the president of the h o A with

460
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: a nuisance trapper showing them where the beavers were so

461
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: that the nuisance trapper could come kill the beavers. What

462
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: the trail cam did not pick up is the nuisance

463
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: trapper being like, well, it looks like someone's already doing

464
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: it for free, no need for me to get involved.

465
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Very different. This would be like if Joyce the dock

466
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: owner was actually trying to lure in fish to improve fishing.

467
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: So did they ever catch the person who wrote no

468
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: more they do. It was a loan operator not associated

469
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: with the h O A huh. That story really starts

470
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: to make its own gravey, don't it. That does made

471
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: it twice, It made two batches agreed. Oh, one more

472
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: thing before we get into our questions, crint tell everybody

473
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: bought your big time antelope punt. Oh okay. So I

474
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: participated with a colleague at Meat Eater, Uh, Samantha Bates,

475
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: and our friend ru Mapp, who has been on this

476
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: here podcast, the founder and CEO of Outdoor Afro. And

477
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: this is the first year that the Wyoming One Shot

478
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Antelope Contest hosted women participants and guides. So we participated

479
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: in Lander Wyoming. It's my first antelope hunt and it

480
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: was very I think I've calmed down from it, but

481
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: for a solid you know, a week or so after

482
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: the hunt, I was pretty uh buzzed. There. There's some

483
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: interesting rules you have. I mean, it's a timed a

484
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: timed hunt where you have you go out into the

485
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: field with a competitor and their guide and you kind

486
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: of hunt in the same general area and one person

487
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: one gets the first hour um hopefully gets an antelope

488
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: within that first hour. If they don't, they get the

489
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: third hour and you take over for the second hour.

490
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: And the point is for each hunter within a three

491
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: person team to get an antelope in one shot with

492
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: no manmade rests. Yeah. If God didn't put it there,

493
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: then you can't. Yeah, so I made a fence post

494
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: or anything. No, not a fence post meant to like, yeah,

495
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it kind of like an older definition of good marksmanship. Yeah. Yeah,

496
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: it's not like a contemporary definition of good marksmanship. But

497
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: like you'll, like shooting over your knee kind of stuff,

498
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: making it count with one shot. You can use a

499
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: no bipods, right, no bipods, no backpack. Your knee is

500
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: arguably man made. But you can use your knee. You

501
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: can use your knee, you can lie prone, you can

502
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: rest your rifle on sage brush, a rock, part of

503
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: a tree, um, although you can jiggle a rock around. Yeah,

504
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I should say that, I'm not. Actually no, I don't.

505
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good question. I don't know if

506
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: you can. I think it's like you're just supposed to

507
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: put your rifle down on. You can't build, you know,

508
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: build something to or shift something to rest your rifle on.

509
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, so the point is to have each team

510
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: member again antelope in one shot, which surprisingly so many

511
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: teams don't get. Uh, there's there are a couple of

512
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: teams where no one got one in one shot. There

513
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: was only Yeah, there were a bunch of team teams

514
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: where one or two people out of the three were successful,

515
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: and there was one team out of over I don't

516
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: know what do we have like twelve thirteen teams one

517
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: team were each person was successful in getting an antelope

518
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: with one shot, so that was the winning team. This

519
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: kind of friendly competition. It's a very friendly like a

520
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: bunch of money. Yeah, yeah, no, it was a very

521
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: friendly competition. Yeah. So I had I went out with

522
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: U to the same general area with my guide as

523
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: another hunter and their guide and the other hunter had

524
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: the first hour, and you're kind of supposed to roughly

525
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: keep track of where they are because you're in the

526
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: same zone. But they they kind of disappeared, and when

527
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: my hour was about to start, we we couldn't find

528
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: where they were. So my guide and I went off

529
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: and we mainly saw doze and there was an initial

530
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: opportunity that I think, you know, probably everyone in this

531
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: room would have taken um, but because I was so

532
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: nervous and couldn't steady myself. I didn't take this opportunity.

533
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: We were probably about two hundred one fifty yards away

534
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: from a group of antelope that in which there was

535
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: one buck, and I don't think there could have been

536
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: a better set up where we were able to get

537
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: out of the truck and then crawl to hide behind

538
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: a huge boulder upon which I could rest my rifle.

539
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: But um, I was just really freaked out around you know,

540
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: they're all moving slowly. There was only one buck. It

541
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: was in a group of does. I didn't want to

542
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: mess up and just couldn't. I probably had five seconds

543
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: of an opportunity and I just couldn't take it. And

544
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: then I was really upset for initially because I just thought, ah,

545
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: like that's it. I blew it like there was no

546
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: better set up than that, And we kind of drove

547
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: to a different area of the unit. We saw a

548
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: bunch of does and so no books, and then we

549
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: finally my guide's grandson actually spotted a loan buck and

550
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: we were kind of able to drive around this hill

551
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: and try to crawl up from behind and and get him,

552
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: and probably within about a hundred and fifty yards. After

553
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: some crawling, we we were able to see him, and

554
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: my guide noticed that he was walking a bit funny,

555
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: and we had found out that the other hunter in

556
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: the area had taken a shot at an antelope and

557
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: tracked it for a while, but then it disappeared. They

558
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: couldn't find him. So my guide was like, I think

559
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: this is this is the critter. And then I just thought, like,

560
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: my opportunity is almost up, like I gave up the

561
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: first one. This is it. I think I need to

562
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: just do it. I was so nervous, my heart was

563
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: beating outside of my chest. Oh god, I can d

564
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: of like having flashbacks. I could not control myself. I

565
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: was probably tearing up shaking. Yeah, I'm having flashbacks. So

566
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: I kind of did that, uh what do they call it?

567
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: Military crawl? The guy was kind of moving slowly at

568
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: I guess within one fifty and there was a flat

569
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: top rock that was really perfect that I was able

570
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: to get to and lying prone rest my rest my

571
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: rifle on, and I was just remembering what a lot

572
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: of people had told me before and during kind of

573
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: an earlier day of shooting practice too, really not think

574
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: too much, like if it's in your cross hairs, if

575
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: you can see behind the shoulder, like where you need

576
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: to take a shot, just breathe, relax, commit and do it.

577
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: So he was walking very slowly and I got him

578
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: in my cross hairs and I just told myself take

579
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: this out, and I took the shot and he dropped, so,

580
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, and then I continued to be very jittery

581
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: and nervous for some time. And oh yeah, and then yeah,

582
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't relax. And then I cried a lot,

583
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: and you know, hugged my guide and he said some

584
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: very Mickey said some very very kind words to me.

585
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: And he was he was a pretty He was a

586
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: beautiful creature, you know when you after you tag and

587
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: you kind of bring him to there's like a wildlife

588
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: and they're like students from a university. We had to

589
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: drive the antelope when I was down there. When I

590
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: was down there for it, I don't remember that. Remember.

591
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: We just took it to a lot. We just took

592
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: it to a dude I was hanging out with Locker

593
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: caught it up next. Well, this one grad student identified

594
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: this buck as being at least four years old because

595
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: he was looking at the you know his teeth um.

596
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: And he also had a very beautiful black stripe running

597
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: down the center of his face and nose, which I

598
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: guess if it is a younger animal, it's more brown.

599
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: It's just not as defined. Again, the cheek patches are

600
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: a little different. And then now I've got some antelope

601
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: in my freezer. Did you feel that it was mortally wounded?

602
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Would have been mortally wounded like there? It was shot

603
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: in the leg front front right? Do you feel that

604
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: would have never it wouldn't made it through the winter

605
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: or don't you know? I don't know because it was broadside.

606
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: It's left side was broadside to me, and it was

607
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: its right front leg that was injured. So when I shot,

608
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: it fell to its right and when we approached it,

609
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: it's from its kind of elbow joint down was like

610
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: twisted around, and it had been walking prior to me

611
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: shooting it, So I couldn't tell if when he fell,

612
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: if the weight of his body plus the weakness from

613
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: that previous injury twisted. Yeah, So you don't know if

614
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: he was packing it weird or not? Uh? Do you

615
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: guys see on Instagram that picture I put up with that?

616
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't know the people. We haven't talked to him,

617
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: but it was just floating around on Facebook as these

618
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: dudes and Oregon shot this bull elk. They had a mystery,

619
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: like a very mysterious broadhead. Oh yeah, lodge in the

620
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: roof it's mouth for a guy had hit it Boston.

621
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: Its tooth out and the broadhead had lived for I

622
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know how long it was healed up, lodged in

623
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: the roof of its mouth. I have a vertebrother with

624
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: the broadhead built into it, like the bone is all

625
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: ossified around the around the broadhead. But I lodged in

626
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: there and I was like trying to figure out what

627
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: kind of broadhead it was. And it's funny because I

628
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: started sending it to I sent to Bill at iron

629
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: Will Broadheads, and he can't identify it. Is it like

630
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: really old? He's like, And then he sent it to

631
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: He sent it to someone in like the Broadhead Collectors Association.

632
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: Pat Durkin. Is funny because Spencer's laughed about this. Pat

633
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Durkins sent it to the two people he knows who

634
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: are old broadhead collectors. Both of his broadhead collector friends

635
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: nowhere can identify it. No one of these was like

636
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: a type of broadhead one gas is this type of

637
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: broadhead like used to be used by trad bow hunters.

638
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: But it's not like this thing lived forever. I mean,

639
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: you know at its oldest at six seven years old.

640
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: So someone using some old ass hard to identify a broadhead.

641
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: Have you looked at it? Have you looked at it? Yeah?

642
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: If you go to my Instagram at Stephen Ronnell, you'll

643
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: find this picture. Crazy. Maybe it's some Steve. I think they.

644
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: I think they custom filed and sharpened the back edges

645
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: that Broadhead's one theory. The other theory is that they

646
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: got warned from being in its mouth. Oh I see,

647
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Maybe it's some like tread boll hunters.

648
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: They like to make their own stuff. M yeah, maybe

649
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: someone made it. Well, I feel like he needs spend

650
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: a little more time shooting and making well. I don't

651
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: know any number of things I need to get all

652
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: saying you get in the comments section. And I had

653
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: said in my in my caption, I had said, I

654
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: have five or six questions I'd like to ask the

655
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: individual who shot the arrow. People took that to me

656
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: like a condemnation, like, oh, how could you be so bad.

657
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: That's not my question. My question is what the hell

658
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: is that broadhead? How did you get it? So it

659
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: entered the side of its face into the roof of

660
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: its mouth. Just various questions, not like you're a how

661
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: are you about? You know? Not a kind of but man,

662
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: people really jumped on whoever the dude is. No one

663
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: knows who the dude is. He really got a realm

664
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: and yeah got a good reaming. Okay? Uh? One guy,

665
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: So I comment here, here's one question that came in

666
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: on the show. Do you want to read the questions?

667
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: That's what you want? I don't know, either get stupid

668
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: or a good idea. I think you pack the question

669
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: do you want to answer? And you read him yourself?

670
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: That makes more sense. One guy said, how commented how?

671
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: And in the first episode of our new season, we

672
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Hunt Antelope with Luke Combs, someone said, how I describe

673
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: how antalope smell like fried do a corn chips? Luke

674
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Combs says that his dog smells like fried to a

675
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: corn chips. Someone says, what's Luke smell like? I couldn't.

676
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I never got a good whiffle loop. I didn't get

677
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: freed dough like Yeah, he smells like what most humans

678
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: smell like. I would say, because I never like registered

679
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: anything unusual. Our buddy Casey says, he smells like free

680
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: to a corn chips if he doesn't shower for a

681
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: little while. What was that? Right? In case he does

682
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: say that his arm pits, he said, kind of like

683
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: he said, he kind of likes the smell. My daughter,

684
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: for whatever is my daughter wants to get a stick

685
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: of deodorant real bad. And I have no idea why.

686
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: And she said that she she says, if I don't

687
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: wear a deodor I smell like old macaroni and cheese.

688
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: That's probably because you probably have old macaroni and cheese

689
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: on you. Probably I didn't register smell with Luke. Now, Uh,

690
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: someone want to know how many beers I drank with Luke.

691
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Those boys drink a fair number of beers. But but

692
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: rather to answer that question, I'll talk about what I

693
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: was drinking. I was. So the ranch we are at,

694
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: they have friends. This is the best ship on the planet. Man.

695
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: The ranch we're at had friends who run four J

696
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: b Q Sauces Marinus right for J barbecue sauces. It's

697
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: like four J Ranch for J barbecue sauces. He gave

698
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: me a jar. The guy who who owns the ranch

699
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: gave me a jar to stuff called Bloody fifty five.

700
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I've which is bloody marry mix. Man, you take a

701
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: swill beer, just a regular shitty beer, good beer, good

702
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: beer when I think of its good beer, but swill yeah,

703
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: Like I think shitty beer is good. Same and people

704
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: like water. I'm like, I like water too. It's like

705
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: if you drink beer and people get mad that the

706
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: beer taste, they get mad about it. It's like, but

707
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: why would I not just drink things that I like?

708
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: And also why is it not making mad when I

709
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: drink water? I agree? Man, but I drink water. People

710
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: have such an opinion about it. But I think the weirdest, stupidest, Like,

711
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: if you're drinking beer, it should If you're drinking a thing,

712
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: it should taste like what it is. Its like I

713
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: like swill beer, yeah, I don't. Like. I don't. I

714
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: don't need that much flavor in my life. Like if

715
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna drink beer for four hours, I don't need

716
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: every sit to and be like oh my god, you

717
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: know I agree. It's like you don't sit and eat

718
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: flag raw for four hours. He flog for a couple

719
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: of minutes. When's the last time you four hours though

720
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: slowly cleaning fish? I don't know. On that Luke comb shoot,

721
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I'll drink beer. I'll drink I'll drink like two cans

722
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: of beer over the course of four hours. On Instagram,

723
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't need that much flavor in my life. Oh

724
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: my yah, I needs the worst. On honests Instagram, you

725
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: can see a video of Janice and Luke shotgunning of beer,

726
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: which is extremely impressive. Great did you shotgun with him?

727
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how. Never have we used to do kickstands.

728
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: We used to fill fish fish aquariums up with combat

729
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: juice and then you'd get lowered into it. That used

730
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: to be the thing you'd like to do. Do you

731
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 1: tell a story about something floating in the combat? We're

732
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: doing that one night when I was in this house.

733
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I used to living with somebody's of mine, and we

734
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: were doing net where he filled a fish aquarium with

735
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: combat juice, and you know, then you get like, don't

736
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, like they hold you up by your ankles

737
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: in there. Uh. The next day, look at it's just

738
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: like I remember it was like it goes seventy six

739
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: cents of changes in the bottom of that from shaking

740
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: out of people's pockets and in the surface of the

741
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: water was just hair brutal. Oh but I'll say about

742
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: these beers. So this bloody fifty five, here's what you do.

743
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: You get yourself a swill beer. It annoys my brother

744
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: because I'll pour the top off. He likes to drink

745
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: the top off. So what, however, you go. If you're frugal,

746
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: you drink the top off. If you're like me, you

747
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: pour the top off and top it off with bloody

748
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: fifty five. If you want to get real good, you

749
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: get a turkey baster. Um. You know, I knew some

750
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: people one time that that it was a couple too.

751
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: It was a couple and they wanted to have it

752
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: was it was a two women that wanted to have

753
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: a baby. They were a couple and they um wanted

754
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: one of their brothers to be the donor and did

755
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing with a turkey baster. Huh. Successfully, you

756
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: get yourself a turkey baster. It's a different one, and

757
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: you draw This is why did I I I fell

758
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: so in love with this drink that I'm telling everybody

759
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: about that. I bought a turkey baster for this purpose.

760
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: You get yourself a turkey baster, suck the bloody fifty

761
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: five out and then injected into your can. You're really

762
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: good at sound effects. I think you need to make

763
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: a whole Yeah, ejected into your can mess free m

764
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. I like to do two good glops,

765
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: too good. That's the official glopsal right there. How many

766
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: beers did I drinkle loop? Not many, but I sure

767
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: enjoyed them because I had that jar that stuff, and

768
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: that stuff is good expensive to order it, which my

769
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: wife I talked up so much. My wife got me

770
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: something for Christmas, but I had to pay shipping it.

771
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: It's better to find. Oh, I mean, if you're gonna order,

772
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: order a whole bunch because you don't want to be

773
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: shipping around one jar that stuff. This this here question

774
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: inspired a whole lot of topic coverage. Or or you

775
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: can order some forest floor foods Bloody Mary makes too

776
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: about that kind? There you go. Yeah, we talked about

777
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: on this here podcast before. You never sent me anither

778
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: Chester take it away. I got some in my house.

779
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: I think there's some sitting upstairs right and I'll drink

780
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: every drink, every last drop of that Chester. That's pretty

781
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: similar to a meat chelada, right, that's it's like beer intimation, dude,

782
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: um bud light chilada ice fishing. I haven't tried one.

783
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: When it gets real cold out and it gets slushy

784
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: and your ice fishing, but you got your warmed. You

785
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: got like a lot of clothes and a fur hat on,

786
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: so you're hot, but it's cold and your chiladas slushy,

787
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: very tasty there, Yo, those days are coming. Oh, I

788
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: think you can order some forest flour foods stuff off

789
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: the meat Eater website coming to Oh, that's gonna happen.

790
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. Yeah, how about some forest

791
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: flour food stuff on the old auction house Chester? Is

792
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: it really? It's gonna be one of a kind. I

793
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: don't know how it's gotta come where. It's gotta come

794
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: with you going to their house and singing and making

795
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: him a drink. But yeah, that's a great auction, like

796
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: an old fashions Here it goes again. Chester plays guitarshion

797
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: from even More. Yeah, well you know what, speaking of

798
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: Danielle Other Danielle, Danielle's dogs going up on the auction house.

799
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Very soon. We're gonna put up on the auction house

800
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: that you bid on Chester's Family's pickles mixes. You've been

801
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: on a forest floor food drink mix right, This isn't

802
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: this isn't actually happen until it happens. But hear me out, Chester,

803
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: you buy a forest floor foods food box, the old

804
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: fashioned box. When you buy it, Chester comes to your

805
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: house and makes you a drink and sings you a song. Chester,

806
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to put up with this anymore. Sto auction.

807
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna fill start writing the apologe Duran's gonna fill

808
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: a Mason jar with Buckman juice while someone watches him

809
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: do it. You can't go to their house and sing

810
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: a song. I never said no, but I'm just trying

811
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: to picture it, like how that was very weird interaction.

812
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm here, what do you guys double single? It sounds

813
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: like you got planned out, dude. Someone asked on one

814
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: of our episodes, we had a mountain We had a

815
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: mountain go hunt episode and I whiffed a shot at

816
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: a mountain goat that it was like around three yards away,

817
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: and whipped a shot at it. Um, they're like, whatever happened?

818
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: How did you miss that shot? I missed that shot?

819
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: Of the whole bunch of reasons, I'll explain a couple

820
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: of them. One, it's been a long day. I mean

821
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: as much as that's an excuse, Um, climbing around had

822
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: to have like spent a few hours climbing around with

823
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: ampons in the snow. Everything was cold and wet. Finally

824
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: get up on the mountain goat, it's bedded down. If

825
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: you ever been in a situation where you're laying down

826
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: in the snow waiting for something to stand up, and

827
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: he's been hiking a lot, you just start getting cold,

828
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: so that becomes the thing, and then you start thinking, man,

829
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: I can't lay any longer because I'm gonna get so cold.

830
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm shaking so bad and shivering because now I'm all

831
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: soaking wet laying the snow, and the early is going

832
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: to my head. Is like if the mountain goat stands up,

833
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I don't know what's behind him, Like you're

834
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: hunting very cliffy stuff. And in fact, uh, had he

835
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: gone over that thing? Did you ever go up there? Yes?

836
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: That was very uncomfortable. Had he gone up over Like

837
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: had he fallen the other traction, it would have been

838
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: very like a weird hard place to extract him from.

839
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, might have needed ropes. Yeah, he

840
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: might have needed ropes and had to get dirt miss

841
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: climbing gear, and I'll have to go fetch him, uh dicey.

842
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: So in my head I'm thinking you got hit him,

843
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: and you got hit him in the high shoulder, got

844
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: him in the high shoulder, because when you hear people

845
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: say like him with the high shoulder, it's like you'll

846
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: you'll drop it quick. So I'm think I'm gonna hit

847
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: in the high shoulder. But it's it's you know, November.

848
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: What I hadn't been really plotting on, uh, because I

849
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: just lost in sort of the heat of the moment.

850
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: For one thing is that he's got eight nine inches

851
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: at wool on top and shoulder. They're not nearly as

852
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: big as you think they are. Like you stripped the

853
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: hide off, it looks like a normal goat land there. Yeah,

854
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: Like how many pounds of meat off this one creature?

855
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Just to get a sense of size or how much

856
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: that's a great que I carried one the other day. Um,

857
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: I carried all the meat from one the other day,

858
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: and I did not feel that my backpack was that heavy.

859
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: There was like a one trek and poll pack out. Um,

860
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is it? What is

861
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: in one? I don't know. Very low yield though, Yeah,

862
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: they're all they got a huge gut. They're eating all

863
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: that low quality forage. They got like an enormous digestive track,

864
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: huge gut. Not a lot of meat. They don't run.

865
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: Small backstraps I remember for that, small bags, not very wide. Yeah,

866
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: there's not like a girl. They're they're not. You get

867
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: to hide off him in your eyes, like wow, there

868
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: can't be forty pounds. And I don't know. Is there

869
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: forty pounds of bones? Meat? And the mountain goat? Maybe

870
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: a big one that's more. I don't you know. I can,

871
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: I can find out, but I don't know. Off top

872
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: of my head. I could do some bath and figure

873
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: it out. I carried like bone. I carried one out,

874
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: bone in, and I don't think my backpack it's got

875
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: any more. There's no way my backpack weighed more than

876
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: eighty pounds, and I had the whole thing on the bone,

877
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: including rib slab in my backpack, and I think my

878
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: backpack weighed eighty pounds. It's like antelope size. So anyways,

879
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about high shoulder. I was not accounting for um.

880
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: I was not accounting for all that wool. I was

881
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: also off in how I clicked. I was off in

882
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: my hold, and I was also off in my zero.

883
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: I was high on my zero. So each of these

884
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: things contributed a little bit. And I took off a

885
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: hunk of wool which hangs on the wall of the

886
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: podcast studio. If you look carefully at the hunk of

887
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: wolve that that bullet took off that mountain goat, you'll

888
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: see that there's a teensiest little bit of like like

889
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: leather kind of attached to it. So we made a

890
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: little dirt myth made me a little plaque where there's

891
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: the wool that I knocked off, and that's called the miss.

892
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: And then above that is a picture of the mountain goat,

893
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: and that's called the hit. But I took that hunk

894
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: of wool off his back. It's like it's too flattened

895
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: cotton balls. Should put a picture of that on your

896
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Instagram or something, Steve, when this episode drops or something

897
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know it would be great idea.

898
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: That's the best idea. Thanks guys. And the in the

899
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: back of the thing. He oh, he burnt in lessons learned. Yeah,

900
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: Dirt myth got into making picture frames. What a thoughtful dude.

901
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: He made a beautiful picture frame for me that hangs

902
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: right when you're right when he come into my house,

903
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: one of his picture frames is hanging there. It's got

904
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: moss and ship on it or like, uh, it's beautiful.

905
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: He's a crafty little feller spell checker though he needs

906
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: a spell checker. He made lessons possessive. Listen. I don't

907
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: think Dirt puts a whole lot of From what I

908
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: know about Dirt, I don't think that there would ever

909
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: tell you that that's his specialty. I don't think he

910
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: specializes in spelling. Does not specialized in spelling. Why wave

911
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: a white flag when you're anilal hunting That's an old trick.

912
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: That's an old trick. My older brother, I have a

913
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: I have an older half brother. He was in his

914
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: late seventies, oddly then the net surprising seventy years old.

915
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: He was um. He was a hunting guy for a

916
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: long time in Colorado. He was the first guy I

917
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: ever talking about waving something white at him, and he

918
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: was a hunting guy a million years ago. He would uh,

919
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: he'd carry a white white flag. You know, animal got

920
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: a big white side on him. Yeah, like an animals

921
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: reddish brown, but he's got a huge white flank. It

922
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: ain't for hiding. It's for finding each other, you know,

923
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: when the sun shine out of that thing like they

924
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: live in. They live spread out a big, huge flat country.

925
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: They're ridiculously fast for any predator that it's out there

926
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: as an adult, just like hiding is not on their

927
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: sort of they're not worried about hiding. They don't when

928
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: they bed down. They bed down in very obvious places.

929
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: Like antelope don't do anything to hide. The more pressure

930
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: they're under, the more they want to lay up high

931
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: where they can see everything that's going on, and they

932
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: don't do anything to conceal themselves. I think that big

933
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: white side is just a way the antelope keep track

934
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: of antelope, and one with a buck and some other

935
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: ones too. If you just take something in a white

936
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: thing and wave it and then hide it so it

937
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: sees the white but never gets to really get a

938
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: read on the white nine out of I don't know,

939
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: maybe not nine out of ten times. Eight out of

940
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: ten times that thing is gonna close distance on you.

941
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: They just they you like if you if he doesn't

942
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: know you're there, or he's like, what is that thing

943
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: over there? And you wait to hold a game bag

944
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: up and let a game bag blow on the wind

945
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: and then put it down. He's gonna start walking in

946
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: your direction. Caribou if you if you sorry, what's that

947
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: with cariboo? If if you see care, they're gonna pass

948
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: you buy and they're not gonna get close to you

949
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: and you're hidden, stand up and walk around from it,

950
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: then lay back down. They I mean they drop everything. Yeah,

951
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: you get a hunch over, walk around him, and then

952
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: lay back down. And usually they're gonna start because like

953
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: it's either a grizzly, a cariboo, or a wolf. It's

954
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: a If it's a grizzly a wolf, I'll just see

955
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: that and turn away. If it's carribou, I want to

956
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: go hang out. You're like exploiting their gregaris, very similar

957
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: to putting decoys out for a ductor go ahead and stuff.

958
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: Um Our dog is like similarly colored to antelope brown

959
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: and white, and we've had at antelope see the dog

960
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: and like come running in to see, like to get closer,

961
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: just because I'm assuming, Just because I'm assuming, just because

962
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: it looked like from a distance, she looks like a

963
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: little antelope in a way. Uh. They you know, during

964
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: during the rut, they decoy very effectively too. But I've

965
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: used that game bag trick all the time, and I

966
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: keep a game bag always handy. Antalope putting Clay take

967
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: on this question about respecting to kill man? Have you

968
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: looked at this one? How prepared to you? You know?

969
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: I did? I did see it. I'm probably a six

970
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: and a half. Yes, this feller writes in I don't know.

971
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm assuming a fella, I don't know. He says,

972
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: I was explaining to my wife about respecting to kill

973
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: an animal after it's harvested, and she was down for

974
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: it and understood. But then she happened to be watching

975
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: the rack who to the episode with Clay and Janice,

976
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: and she grew livid when y'all showed mingus the hide

977
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: in the tree, asking how the heck does that respecting

978
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: the animal's life? I didn't have an answer for I

979
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: got an insight, just like Clay will take it out.

980
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: But I'll explain real quick. Uh, Janice is training a dog.

981
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: He's training mingus as a hunting dog, a tracking dog.

982
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: He wants to be able run raccoons. Wants to be

983
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: able to run lines. So in order to help the

984
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: dog make the association between to connect all the dots

985
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: of what was happening, Janice, Uh, shook the raccoons hide

986
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: by the tree. Got the dog excited about the raccoon,

987
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: excited about the tree, just to help the dog connect

988
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: all the dots, like, oh, raccoons in the tree. They

989
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: got the raccoon. Now we get the smell that and

990
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: play with it. Um. So, Eric Clay, how how is

991
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: if you use it for dog training, does that inherently

992
00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: make it disrespectful? No? I would. I would have to

993
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: say that, you know, to me, the holistic experience of

994
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: using that animal. You know, we we took the meat

995
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: from that animal, We harvested the hide from that animal,

996
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: which we we we tanned, and and that is in

997
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: the auction house of oddities right now. Yeah, it's in there. Yeah. Yeah,

998
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So I mean, I just I personally wouldn't

999
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: have viewed that as disrespectful at all. I mean, if

1000
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: you're if you're looking at the macro picture of the

1001
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: massive explosion of an unnatural populations of raccoons in the country.

1002
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: The best thing that you can do for living raccoons

1003
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: is train raccoon dogs to go out and harvest the

1004
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: over abundance of raccoons. So it's like this circle of

1005
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: life thing. You know what claims referred to there is

1006
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: raccoon prices are at historic lows, and you have a

1007
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: incredible number of raw coons on the landscape right now, um,

1008
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: which can be detrimental to a lot of other species.

1009
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Great for raccoons potentially until they get the until they

1010
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: get infectious diseases that spread through them. That's right now.

1011
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, I just didn't. I would have never viewed

1012
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: that as being disrespectful to the animal. I mean, we

1013
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: didn't let the dog wool on it or anything. You know. No,

1014
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: if you had a leather throw toy and train your

1015
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: dog with that, um, would that be disrespectful to that cow?

1016
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: No one would ever bring that up. If you threw

1017
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: an old shoe, an old leather shoe for a dog,

1018
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: You're like, get a boy, Get a boy. Is that bad?

1019
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: It's made of leather. Yeah, yeah, put that in her

1020
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: pipe and smoke it. They the dogs, the dog toy

1021
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: aisle at the pet stores just loaded with pig's ears

1022
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: and cow hooves. And oh, that's a good question, all

1023
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. Is that disrespectful? I don't think it's big.

1024
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: No one cares about respecting fire animals. No, I mean no,

1025
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: cause can farmers do consumers don't? Clay. Here's a nother

1026
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: one for you. Did Mingus do well behind the scenes?

1027
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: And how is Mingus training going? Mingus is Yanni's dog.

1028
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Yanni got a pound puppy. He went down to the

1029
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: pound and got like a hound dog. Yeah, you know what.

1030
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: I so prior to this hunt, Janice had talked about

1031
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: bringing Mingus, and I actually discouraged him a little bit

1032
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: from it, just because I did not thinking, you know,

1033
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: three nights of hunting that the dog would catch on

1034
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: at all. And and so I was. I guess I

1035
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: didn't discourage him. I just I didn't try to say, hey,

1036
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: this is gonna be really good for this dog. And

1037
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: incomplete honesty, I was pretty shocked at how quickly that

1038
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: that dog was was tree and raccoons And what you

1039
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't have seen is that Yanna stayed two extra nights

1040
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: after the shoot and we went out in Mingus absolutely

1041
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: struck and tread on a coon. I mean just not

1042
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: all by himself. My dogs were there too, but you know,

1043
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: so the dog did fantastic. He he really had the

1044
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: ability to catch on quick to to tree an unseen game,

1045
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: which that's the trick with raccoon and with the big

1046
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: game hounds. A lot of times they're seeing the animal

1047
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: in a tree because just a larger animal like a

1048
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: mountain lion or a bear is sometimes visible, their scent

1049
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: is really strong. A raccoon hound has to be a

1050
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: little more nuanced because he's totally tree and off of scent.

1051
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: And man, Mangus really did awesome. And what was also

1052
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of stunk Steve is that, you know, we really struggled.

1053
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean in the raccoon hunting was not where I

1054
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: figured we would have trouble. Dude. We were in a

1055
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: cold snap that made national news. Oh yeah, there were

1056
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: woodpeckers laying all over in the woods. That throws the death.

1057
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: It was we're wandering around the woods were dead birds,

1058
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: but they looked perfect, like perfect dead birds laying there

1059
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: that had froze the death. Yeah. Well, the other two

1060
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: nights that that we hunted, we just the coon hunting

1061
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: was great, you know after after the shoot. Yeah, finally

1062
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: warmed up. Yeah, it warmed up a little bit. Another

1063
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: question for you, Clay. So, on the episode with Clay

1064
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: and I are hunting white tails and Texas, I bust

1065
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: Clay's ratlin anilers, which I'll point out or in the

1066
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: auction houite of bodities right now. M h the very

1067
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: ratlin andlers. And he wants to know if Clay's ratlin

1068
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: anlers were ready to snap or were you giving it

1069
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: an extra bit of juice? Mm hmm. Okay, So I

1070
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: am a strong man. Let me I can know my

1071
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: own strength. Okay. There's a little bit of history of

1072
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: those antlers. One of the antlers was a five point

1073
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: side of a buck that my dad acquired at a

1074
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: like a like a bow shoot uh door prize event.

1075
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful probably a hundred and forty inch side,

1076
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: and I saw it off the brow time. The left

1077
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: antler was a sure enough Ozark mountain shed that I

1078
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: picked up in two thousand five on and I'll tell

1079
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: you the property it was on the kick Line property,

1080
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: and so it had been land there since two thousand five.

1081
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it had not been landing. It

1082
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: had been you know, off the off the deer's head

1083
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: since then, and it had no indication of fracture or breakage.

1084
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: And on the first set of our hunt, yeah you

1085
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: broke it, man, wasn't there some squirrels chewing on that?

1086
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: There was a touch of squirrel chewing, but it was

1087
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: not on the G one, which is what Steve broke.

1088
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember two. It was a G two. I'm sorry.

1089
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: Did we go looking for the broken chunk? I feel

1090
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: like I remember looking for but I can't hear if

1091
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: we found it. Yeah, you know what. I carried it.

1092
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: I carried it around the whole hunt and I can't

1093
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: find it now. You sweet and you picked it up

1094
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: in the episode. Yeah, good eye said, I got another

1095
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: one for you. Clay, all right, you're getting a lot

1096
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: of action in everybody. Someone wants to know what this is.

1097
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: Also in the auction House of Bodities, what was Clay's

1098
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: shotgun revolver making model? That thing looks so cool. That's

1099
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: what that thing's got going for it is it looks cool.

1100
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: That's right. A lot of comments. Yeah, thanks it that

1101
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: was a rossy circuit judge. And it's a four ten.

1102
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: It's Revolve the Revolver four ten. Uh. That also shoots

1103
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: forty five caliber bullets. And you know what, I I

1104
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: want to get a modified choke for it. It truly

1105
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: would be a great squirrel gun. And I used it

1106
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed. I really enjoyed carrying it. I need

1107
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: a modified tighter choke. That was the only thing. It

1108
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: shoots a pretty uh, pretty pretty loose pattern. But yeah, man,

1109
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: I love it. I really enjoyed carrying that gun for

1110
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: squirrel hunting, but need a tighter choke. You can learn

1111
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: more about that gun on our website. Steve wrote an

1112
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: article we pulled the Shawn September called the Guns and

1113
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: Meat Eat Your Seats and Tanny talks about six of

1114
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: the guns used in the five Episodes's good Spencers, Hey

1115
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: on the On the episode, we called it the peacemaker though, yeah,

1116
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: were we calling it in an error? Well, we just

1117
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: dubbed it that. It was a nickname. It was. It

1118
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: was just kind of a nickname. Oh I missed one

1119
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: I was going to bring up. Would I have thought

1120
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: of the Mountain goat hunt as a success. Had I

1121
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: killed a nanny, I would have kept that at it

1122
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: and just got I know, I wouldn't have done that.

1123
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: I mean I had in my head to find a

1124
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: billy and I was gonna find it. I was gonna

1125
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: find a billy if I had had to go and

1126
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: not get one out of gone and not got one.

1127
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: But would you like have felt badly No, if you

1128
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: would have gotten in nanny. No. But I just had

1129
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: in my head when I was gonna do it, and

1130
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna change what I was gonna do. But

1131
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: that's my career advice to I think they're more framing.

1132
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: And if you misidentified and walked up and why did

1133
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: they say that? That's why I took that. Oh, had

1134
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: we misidentified, no, I would not. It would have been

1135
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: like No, I wouldn't have Uh. I would have been

1136
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: disappointed in our ability to like make that. It's a

1137
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: very hard thing to do. I'm anything but an expert,

1138
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: but I would have been. Yeah, I would have been.

1139
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: It would have been a complicated one for me. I

1140
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: would have been disappointed. Steve, let me ask you this

1141
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: when you walked up to it, what was the percentage

1142
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: chance in your mind that it was ability. I mean,

1143
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: were you like hundred so were a while And it

1144
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: even had like the piss stained hump. It just had

1145
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: all the trimans, had all the trimans. And at that

1146
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: point we had looked at we had just been able

1147
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: to look at a lot of goats. And the other

1148
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: thing is we're able to This is when it gets

1149
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: helpful is when you have a mixed herd. Because by

1150
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: that by by that point they were starting to get

1151
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: ready for the rut, and so billies were moving in

1152
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: with the nannies. So not only when it's tricky is

1153
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: when you're looking at all nannies are you're looking at

1154
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: all billies. But when you got him lined up, it

1155
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: becomes like when you have a bunch to compare, you

1156
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: can It becomes very easy when you have stuff to

1157
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: compare it to. And like I said, he had like

1158
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: the rubbed flank. He was pissy colored, he was more

1159
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: yellow than everyone else. You could compare the horn structure

1160
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: with everyone else. Do you remember when we spotted that group,

1161
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: I was down below, I'm like, oh, there's a billy.

1162
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: There's actually two billies, and they remember and then you

1163
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: guys were like looked at him. You're like, oh, that's cool.

1164
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: Chester kind of wrote it off that group. Yeah, and

1165
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: then Seth about twenty five minutes later, looks in that group.

1166
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, there's a billy. You guys are good work. Seth. Oh, Phil,

1167
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: you know that song we're gonna make about me being right? Yeah?

1168
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: Do you want to do that? I'll do it for

1169
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: a chance to play with Chesters. It's gonna sound a

1170
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 1: lot better, a lot more details. I drink your milkshake,

1171
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: ain't drinking up. Chests just trying to get in on

1172
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: the He's trying to get it in on the on

1173
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: the post glory. No, I really don't care, but I

1174
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty funny. I appreciate that. That's kind

1175
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: of thing to burn my ass. Man. I still be

1176
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: walking around with that too, Chester, I still be walking

1177
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: around it. Everyone smile. Chet looks at me weird. I'm like,

1178
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: what do you say? It's just pissed. There's a good saying. Um,

1179
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: vengeance is a dish best served cold. Oh there you go, Chet,

1180
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh on the top, here's the hell of a segway

1181
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: on the top of the horns. Remember I was saying,

1182
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: how you can see that you could compare to billies

1183
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: and the nanny's horns when they're all standing there together.

1184
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: Someone said they never thought about this until we brought

1185
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: it up on the episode Prong horn are the only

1186
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: animal that shed their horns annually. And he's got him

1187
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: to wonder, and is the material instructure of horns? How's

1188
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: that different than antlers? Well, yeah, so horns are made

1189
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: out of here. Here's a very like under give it.

1190
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: You probably know a lot about the spencer. I gonna

1191
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: give a very sort of like superficial understanding. Horns are

1192
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: made are crat nous. They're made out there. They're made

1193
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: out of the substance that your hair and fingernails are

1194
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: made out of. Yet, I was recently cutting some antlers

1195
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: from my wife to make jewelry out of cut and

1196
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: when you're running the same across the saw, it smells

1197
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: like when you're at the dentist. Antler smells bad. Antler

1198
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: smells like burnt hair when you cut. Yeah, it smells

1199
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: like like when when you're getting when you're like, that's

1200
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: what it smells like, antler or horn antler cutting antler

1201
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: smells like burnt hair. Yeah, And he used to cut

1202
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: a lot of antler. But you're not even talking about

1203
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And you were talking about antlers. First,

1204
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, all right, listen, because I'm trusting that

1205
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: you probably know a lot about this, because it seems

1206
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: like the kind of thing you know. Maybe not, I

1207
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know anything about it. I'm just

1208
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: saying a way to generally begin to understand, like a

1209
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: very superficial way to understand the difference between horn and

1210
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: antler material. Horn is hair like, it's cratinus. It's made

1211
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: out of the in fact, the antelopes. When you're looking

1212
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: at the new growth on an antelope, it's almost like

1213
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: you can look and see the hair turning into horn. Like.

1214
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: It starts out as a hair like fiber that turns

1215
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: to horn. And is it hollow ish ish you it

1216
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: has a bone core when you So it's getting a

1217
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit complicated. Let me talk about horn stuff in

1218
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: general for men. Okay, what do you guys say? You

1219
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: say when you pop them off their hollow? It's yes,

1220
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: but they're formed around. Let me just set the table.

1221
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking about horned ship in general, big horns, Okay,

1222
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: doll sheet bison prong horn. Yeah, mountain goats they have

1223
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: what are you taking a big in him? No reason,

1224
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. That is a hair like structure that

1225
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: sits over a bone core. When you take a big horn.

1226
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: If you find an old big horn deadhead, a lot

1227
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: of times the horn will have rotted away and what

1228
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: is left is a bone core. So that thing's skull,

1229
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: it's skull has these big gass blades that come out

1230
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: of it and go up and fill the base of

1231
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: the horn. Right, yes, antelope American prong horn to be

1232
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: like more, more, more cracked, more contemporary American prong horn.

1233
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: First off, they don't have any kinfolk. They're the only

1234
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: member of their genus. There endemic to North America, so

1235
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: they're found nowhere else, no other At the end of

1236
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: the at the plis to scene Holocene transition, all their

1237
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: cousins vanished from the face of the earth. They're the

1238
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: only member of their genus. They are one of a kind.

1239
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: They have a horn that sheds annually. When that horn

1240
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: comes off, underneath it is the new horn already growing,

1241
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: and it's a slick, little gross, little growth under there

1242
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: looks like madded hair. And then it comes into its

1243
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: own as a horn. If you kill an antelope and

1244
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: you just go clean it, like let's say you take

1245
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: an antelope and you beatle, clean it or boil it,

1246
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: and you don't take that horn off, you are in

1247
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: for a treat. Because some time will go by, and

1248
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: this happens to people all the time. Some time will

1249
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: go by and all of a sudden something doesn't smell right,

1250
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, your whole house doesn't

1251
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: smell right because you need to get that horn off

1252
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: and clean out all that funcation that exists between the

1253
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: bone core and the horn. To get sheep off, like

1254
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: when we clean doll sheep, you'll put it in in a

1255
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: contractor bag. You put the whole damn head into contractor

1256
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: bag and pour some water in there, and tie it

1257
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: up and leave it out in the sun, and then

1258
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: get yourself piece of plywood, and once you've got it

1259
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: good and rotten, you take it out and throw it

1260
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: at the plywood to But to pot the horns off

1261
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: stinks like holy hell, some of the worst stanch you

1262
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: ever experienced. But it has that same like Harry condom

1263
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: look just nasty look, because he's not building a new one.

1264
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: He's not building a new one under there, because the

1265
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: sheep has his horns for his entire life. Okay, so

1266
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: the problem horns are the only ones that have that

1267
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: weird because they're shed because they're growing, that new one

1268
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: grows underneath, and it's like when your little kid. You

1269
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: don't have any kids, but either way, if you do,

1270
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: your teeth to fall out and there'll be a new

1271
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: one waiting there in line. That's how their horns are,

1272
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: Like the new ones waiting there in line and kind

1273
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 1: of like shoves the old one off. Yeah. I remember

1274
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: looking at that for the first time. I was pretty gross.

1275
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a tight skin around there.

1276
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: When you boil it, you to like score it ye,

1277
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: and then you can once it's boiled, you and like

1278
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: peel it all. It's like a little condom over the

1279
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: bone core. And they do have like a hollow cavity

1280
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: in them. Korean Um in college, I shot like a

1281
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: year and a year ago. There's expense, we know, and love.

1282
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: I shot like a year and a half old antelope,

1283
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: which would have made for like a really really unimpressive

1284
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: European mount. So I pulled it's horns off and it

1285
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: made a shot glass with one of them. Because it

1286
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: held exactly an ounce of liquid in it. You still

1287
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: got it, no abuse it. It's a good auction house,

1288
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: it's right. And I imagine as you get like a

1289
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: two and a half year old, three and a half

1290
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: yeld four and a half year old, you're probably getting

1291
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: too like a big shot glass volume at that point.

1292
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: If you listen to this podcast, you know that um

1293
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: age doesn't lead to big antelope. For a long time,

1294
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: the world record antelope out of New Mexico was three

1295
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, but there's certainly that's six. They go downhill,

1296
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: there's gotta be difference between like a one and a

1297
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 1: half and a four and a half year absolutely, yeah,

1298
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: but they but they top out. They can top out

1299
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: at three. But that's the same with like a white

1300
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: tailed deer. They'll they'll peek at like six and a half,

1301
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: seven and a half and then started going downhill. Well,

1302
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: these go these go downhill way earlier. I don't even

1303
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: know we're arguing about it. Antler antler is an understanding

1304
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 1: horns and Antler's Antler's bone like very similar to bone,

1305
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: the structure very similar to bone. That's why for a

1306
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: long time. You know, like certain things become like certain

1307
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: things you say, become fashionable, and it would be that

1308
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: some years ago it became a thing where you call

1309
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: pronghorn goats and also in the whole damn world calls

1310
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: them goats goats. I just had a guy said I

1311
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: got a goat tag for some unit. I'm like, I

1312
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: don't really had a mountain goats net unit. He's like,

1313
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: oh no, I mean I was so confused at one shot.

1314
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: For a hot second, I was calling it a goat,

1315
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what it became very hip to call

1316
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: him goats, and for a while ago it became very

1317
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: hip to call antler bone a lot of bone. Look

1318
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: at all that bone. Tom Spencer, h yeah, here's one

1319
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: for your steth. You didn't even get to the question

1320
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: part of why, Like we talked about antelope horns for

1321
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: ten minutes. What's the question because guy asked you about

1322
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, teerless rock, sure of horns different

1323
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: from antlers. I was like, I hallucinated that, like the

1324
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: dick you did. I was thinking during the episode you

1325
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: had talked to him. You're like, yeah, now sometimes you

1326
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: find these things just laying around. I was like No,

1327
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't find those on the prairie. I've

1328
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: never wanted to find one. On the episode, I know,

1329
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. I was very impressed. I

1330
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: don't think the last long. No, I don't think so either.

1331
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: That's why I was very impressed. They're like, yeah, Luke,

1332
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: you can find these things just laying around and then

1333
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: shed horns. I wonder if, like the coyotes and whatnot,

1334
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: come and chew them up, because they're similar to like

1335
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: sheep and water buffalo horn sheds that are dog dog

1336
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: choose such a thing. Yeah, they don't last like an antler,

1337
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: Like the structure is not that strong. They rode away quick.

1338
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: But I found a bunch of them. I bet I'll

1339
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: find one this weekend hunting with my kids. That's cool.

1340
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: I've I've never found one. You don't look at the

1341
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: ground very much. Being a rockhount, I think, yeah, but

1342
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: you're too fixed on rock. You do notice horn. You

1343
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: gotta look from something looks like wood. Here's what's easier,

1344
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: bow hunting or flintlock hunting? Um? Well, Rick and chime

1345
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: in almost I want to hear from both you. That's

1346
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 1: that's so if you were to approach both the same way.

1347
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: Like bow hunting, you'd sit in the tree stand right

1348
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: or on the ground, but in in a in one

1349
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: spot if you're bow hunting white tails. Yeah. So if

1350
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: I was to take my bow hunting set up and

1351
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: add a flintlock to it and not a bow, I

1352
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: would say bow hunting because I know my bow is

1353
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: going to go off even if it's raining. What about

1354
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: a traditional bow? Why wouldn't I go off in the rains? No? No,

1355
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying like I'm saying like there's a difference between

1356
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: a traditional bow and a compound Like I know what

1357
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: you mean. I would say a muzzler is easier and

1358
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: you can be more accurate with a muzzleloader, a flint

1359
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: lock muzzleloader than a trad bow. I think it's like

1360
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: effective range versus um. But I think if I'm sitting

1361
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: in a tree stand and if I have flintlock or

1362
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: a bow, I feel like the bow is going to

1363
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: be more reliable, you know, on average? Yeah, that makes sense,

1364
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: and and you know, easier to to get a shot

1365
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: off just see, like you said, you know what's gonna go.

1366
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, but if I'm running around doing drives and stuff.

1367
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 1: I think the flint locks just an easier thing to

1368
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: deal with. Corect I would agree on that, Yeah, I think,

1369
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: although I'm curious, like if we hunted in a much

1370
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: drier climate, would we have a little bit different you know,

1371
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: you know that that's a factor humidity, and obviously we

1372
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: saw that on that hunt. But I think, like say

1373
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: I said, the type of hunting kind of comes into it.

1374
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd say accuracy, range of the weapon, and

1375
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty awesome with the muzzleloader versus a bow, but

1376
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: then the is it going to go off, especially in

1377
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: any kind of damp or more human climate. So I

1378
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: don't know really what you say is harder or easier.

1379
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: It's kind of situation dictates, it depends. It's the answer,

1380
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: that's your answer, the official answer. Yeah. Guy wrote in

1381
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,919
Speaker 1: why don't you use blood tracking dogs to trail wounded

1382
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: animals when you hunt in your episodes? Just mad availability.

1383
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if we had, but I can't think

1384
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 1: of any situations where I don't really know. I can't

1385
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: think of any situations where wouldn't legality also coming because

1386
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: some states are still think around board there is a

1387
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: question legality, Uh, we use a blood tracking dog in

1388
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: between shoots last fall and a deer hunt, remember on Michigan,

1389
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: I do, yeah, And the other day I had a

1390
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: friend um their day, I had a friend hit a

1391
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: box and he felt like he got it. He felt

1392
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: like he got it good, but it wasn't bleeding good.

1393
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: But he's still just by looking at the arrow, he

1394
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: felt like that has to be a dead deer. But

1395
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: he couldn't find because he went into a cornfield, a

1396
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: thick corn field, and there's not enough blood. And so

1397
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: he's like, they just looked and looked to look um.

1398
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: And he asked me, abou knew anybody had a tracking dog?

1399
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: And we're trying to get hold of Yan because Yan

1400
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of more tied into that. But I called

1401
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: a friend of mine has got lion hounds, and he said,

1402
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: they're not blood trailing dogs per se, But my god,

1403
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: do they find dead and dyeing stuff like they can't

1404
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: help themselves. So I said, well, how do you know

1405
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: when they find he? So I'll put GPS collars on

1406
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: him and turn them loose and if there's something dead

1407
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 1: out there, they're gonna know about it. And so he

1408
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: goes out there with my friend and my friend goes

1409
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: around the other side of the cornfield in case this

1410
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: thing comes busting out. He said he hadn't even gotten

1411
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: finished walking around the cornfield and phone rings just they're like,

1412
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: they just are on it. So he sees all the dogs,

1413
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, they come together and quit move and he's like,

1414
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: there's something holding their attention to it's the deer. That's cool. Yeah,

1415
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: is that's basically like a bloodhound. Oh, he's good at

1416
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: spotting blood. I used to be. My eyes went bad.

1417
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: Blood track has got hard. I like blood track as

1418
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: good as spoting blood got a little little blood spotters.

1419
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: Here's one for you, Clay on the mule based episode,

1420
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: So we need an episode of hunting squirrels off mules.

1421
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: Do the cinematographers that's a generous term. Do the cinematographers

1422
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: we call camera dudes, but that's I'm joking. Do the

1423
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: cinematographers and crew have to hoop it the whole time?

1424
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: Or do they also get mules? This is a real

1425
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: point of contention. Yeah, yeah, we don't get mucles. I've

1426
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: been on shoot from they have mules. It's hard. It's

1427
01:25:58,439 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: hard to be up and down. It's hard to shoot

1428
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: off for mule. It's hard on when we did that

1429
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: hunt in Wyoming, that horseback hunt Wyoming, that that kind

1430
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: of stuff is just hard on equipment because horses or

1431
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: mules are always running you into brush and stuff you

1432
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: can't kind of you can't control it. But no, we

1433
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: usually don't for long pushes. Everybody will have a horse. Yeah,

1434
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: but it's hard to do your work on the horse. Yeah,

1435
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: and people almost get where they rather was run. Yeah,

1436
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: because it's hard to fill them right. And I mean

1437
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: we may we may not be sitting on mules or horses,

1438
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: but we we do offload some of our gear onto

1439
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: the horses that make us a little lighter, more fleet

1440
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: of foot for getting around. Yeah. I know I said

1441
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: that was for you, Clay, but it want I'm not

1442
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: being for you. I guess Clay's part of it is

1443
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: it's Clay's fault for not having mules. For everyone, you

1444
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: need to get more mules, Clay Man, Hey post Covid.

1445
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: It's it's a hard market, hard market for mules. Everybody

1446
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: thinks they're mule skinner all of a sud Well, I

1447
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: just you just there. They doubled or tripled in price.

1448
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about breeding mules clay like not

1449
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: mules because you can't, but like trying to make mules.

1450
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: You know, if I had a bigger place, I probably

1451
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: would try to have some mayor horses and raise a mule.

1452
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: But but you just need a lot of ground, you know,

1453
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: I need a lot of ground. Hey, they can't talking

1454
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: about cameraman walking though, you know they did a lot

1455
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: of walking on our squirrel hunting and on other mule

1456
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,919
Speaker 1: hunts we've done, Steve, I mean, you know, I remember

1457
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: that first day when the first day we shot for

1458
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: the squirrel hunt. Um Tyler's whatever kind of device he

1459
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: was using to track check himself, you know, he he

1460
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: felt like we went eleven miles that afternoon. So that's

1461
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 1: that's a lot of walking for the camera dudes. And

1462
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: we did more than that the next few days. No,

1463
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: A good way to think about camera guys. Imagine yourself

1464
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: out hunting birds with a dog. You walk a mile,

1465
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: the dog walks five miles or more. All this zagging around, Yeah,

1466
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: camera guys get some miles on that. That sho was

1467
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: tough because we would then go coon hunting that night. Yeah,

1468
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: I was pretty happy with the canon that I got

1469
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: to drive around in you're feeling good in there. Yeah,

1470
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: how do I find traveling on mule back? I quite

1471
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I quite enjoy it, man, I like it. Um. Yeah,

1472
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm not like a sophisticated enough

1473
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 1: of a horseman a muleman to have like strong opinions

1474
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: about mules versus horses. But I can say that I

1475
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: have no desire to travel fast on horseback, like I

1476
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: have no interest in galloping, so I don't need an

1477
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: animal capable of galloping. This is not my thing to

1478
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: gallop around, to gallop through the mountains. We would we

1479
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: wouldntess you come off from mule a couple of times

1480
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: on that on that episode. Oh yeah, I fall off

1481
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: those things. But I'm like a cat man. I was,

1482
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: I gotta. I wasn't gonna bring it up unless somebody

1483
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: brought it up. I was. I was impressed with you, Steve,

1484
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,919
Speaker 1: uh that you weren't afraid of the mules. And and

1485
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: and I have seen the three guys that I've put

1486
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: on mules in this year, your honest being one, you've

1487
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 1: been one, and then uh my buddy Dave Gardner, and

1488
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: I'll I'll tell on him, have had the same have

1489
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: actually getting on the mule with heavy packs have fallen

1490
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: over the top of them and landed on the ground. Um,

1491
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: and uh, it's yeah, they're they're tricky, man, They're tricky

1492
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: sometimes just to get your balance. And then you got

1493
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: pulled off by a wall of briars. One time was

1494
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: my fault, Yeah, no, it really what You just got

1495
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: raked off and the mule just went through. But no,

1496
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 1: the second time, your mule was trying to hop onto

1497
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: a road, Yeah, and it like jumped the ditch and

1498
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: kind of sent you flying slipped on the ice. Yeah. Hey,

1499
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:19,879
Speaker 1: Michael Ranger wouldn't have been able to hang on for that. Hey, Michael,

1500
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Michael Lanier, who's a veteran horse and mule rider, bit

1501
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: the dirt and I've never seen him by there. Hey,

1502
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: that was treacherous conditions for riding mules. Man. Yeah, I

1503
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: had I think three crashes. I got drug off by briars.

1504
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: The horse fell on the ice and I just stepped

1505
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: off because it was laying on the ground, and then

1506
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 1: I got kind of like thrown off, I guess. Yeah.

1507
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: And then Michael Lanier, his big mule, was trying to

1508
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: sidestep of frozen What what happened is weird walking down

1509
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: these old roads that were covered in snow, but they

1510
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: were big mud holes underneath the snow. But look, it

1511
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: looked like just like perfect flat dirt road. And then

1512
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: the mules got on it and they were standing on

1513
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: sheets of ice, so they started getting super spooky. And anyway,

1514
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: Lanier's mule sidestepped what he thought was a mud hole

1515
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: and then jumped and Michael just came sailing off and

1516
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: landed on his back. Yeah, I was treacherous, man, it

1517
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: really was. You know, it's funny. The other day we

1518
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: were hunt mountain goats, one of our colleagues at a

1519
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: mountain goat tag. We're all hunting mountain goats and we're

1520
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: going down this trail and there was a tree falling

1521
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: over in the trail and you can see where guys

1522
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: have been in there hunting on horseback. And you could

1523
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: see on the the on the trail head side of

1524
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: this tree that they had gotten into a terrible ruckus

1525
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: with their livestock about jumping that tree. Because the ground

1526
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the size of this studio were in the ground was

1527
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: just ripped up hoof prints toward a hell where you

1528
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: can say that no, they could not get those things

1529
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: to jump that tree, and in there is a uh

1530
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: sig magazine full of nine millimeter shells and it perfect

1531
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: fit for Garrett's pistol. Oh nice. Yeah, so some guy

1532
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: got into a big blow up, lost this pistol, lost

1533
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 1: the magazine on this. So if you're looking for your magazine,

1534
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 1: one guy said, for High Mountain Goat episode, on average,

1535
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: how long are you sitting in glass anywhere? From like

1536
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: a real glass and sash could be at a minimum,

1537
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: like a legitimate glass and session could be at a minute,

1538
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, or it could be eight hours. We're on

1539
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: cous here, we'll sometimes spend the whole day sunrise and sunset. Yeah,

1540
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: and just one or two spots just watching. Well. Yeah,

1541
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: it was tricky too because there was snow. If there's

1542
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 1: no snow, it's yeah, that changes things. You can cover

1543
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: some more ground quicker, Yeah, because with your glass one

1544
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: because mountain goats are white, so if there's no snow,

1545
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: you can burn through a lot of ground. But when

1546
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: there's snow, you gotta slow down. You're more looking for

1547
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: their tracks. You wind up looking for tracks in the snow.

1548
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Then you follow the tracks until you find the tracks,

1549
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: stop and then looking there's something standing there. It's very

1550
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: hard to find them in the snow. They're a little different.

1551
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: They're a little different colored than the snow. They're a

1552
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: little more pissy colored, but hard to find. The snow

1553
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 1: changes everything. Hunting doll sheep in the snow is tricky.

1554
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: You gotta look. Did a lot of looking for tracks

1555
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: on then you look for tracks and follow the tracks

1556
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: and try to see what's going on. All right, So

1557
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: Craney got one last question. Yeah, um, I wanted to

1558
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: know what other states have a muzzleloaders season and then, uh,

1559
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: you know that whole the whole deer drive situation seemed

1560
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: very complicated, with a lot of room for things to

1561
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: go wrong. So just kind of curious about the thought behind,

1562
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, planning that and going into it. Who wants

1563
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: to start? I know Montana this year has a it's

1564
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: not like a flint locks season to say, but it's

1565
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: a like a primitive muzzleloaders, like a late primitive muzzloader season,

1566
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: which you can use flint locks, match locks, percussion, percussion cap.

1567
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: If someone's out there with the matchlock, I give him

1568
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: all the You can use a regular old Joe blow muzzleloader. Well,

1569
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: no like the like the like cap like a percussion

1570
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: not no modern inline style. What does percussion style mean? Um? So,

1571
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: how in the episode he saw there was flint striking

1572
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: a frizen and it starts that powder there is almost

1573
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: like a primer. Think of it as like a cap

1574
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: that's like a primer in a center fire cartridge. You

1575
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: slip that on a nipple that is essentially a tube

1576
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: that goes down into where the main charges and there's

1577
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: a the hammer is cupped and when it hits, it

1578
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: strikes that cap with a lot of force and does

1579
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: the same chemical reaction spits an ignition down through that tube. Yeah,

1580
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: it's more reliable. So yeah, that was like the progression.

1581
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: You had flintlocks and then technology you had a percussion stuff.

1582
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah? So but most states, to answer your question,

1583
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: creant have a muzzle inter season. But it's just that

1584
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is unique and they're the only one that by

1585
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: law flintlock is the newest technology you can use. It

1586
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: has to be a flintlock ignition. It cannot be percussion,

1587
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: which they changed it, and they were pioneers to like

1588
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: they got going on before, So I think they change

1589
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: it now that can use a percussion stuff, or in

1590
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 1: the early season you can use a percussion there's there's

1591
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: like an early October where you can use something in

1592
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: lines and stuff. But to your second part of the question,

1593
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 1: deer drives are there's a lot that goes into its culturally,

1594
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty neat and it's an aspect of hunting

1595
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 1: that's not talked about a lot um. There's definitely pros

1596
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: and cons, but there's a whole I mean, that's like

1597
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: an hour long subject to talk about how to move

1598
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: deer across the landscape, especially with the number of the

1599
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: big factors like number of people, what's the weather like.

1600
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: We had very crunchy snow which affected us. And I

1601
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: do want to point out one thing from the episode

1602
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: that I feel like, depending if you don't if you're watching,

1603
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: you understand when you were trying to make sure all

1604
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: those deer didn't go down It's like, we know deer

1605
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: go downhill a lot and drives, but there's a private

1606
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: property boundary there that we cannot hunt on the other side.

1607
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: So you're also in the East Midwest, you're trying to

1608
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: manipulate deer around. Maybe we're topographically contour wise. They want

1609
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: to follow the contour or go down or any think,

1610
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: but you cannot because they're going to go into private

1611
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 1: So now you're trying to force a situation that isn't

1612
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of natural. So that's like a whole other aspect

1613
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: of like a good crew that knows how to do

1614
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: a drive. Um. Yeah, and that in that drive when

1615
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: all those deer were going down, we're just low on people.

1616
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: We would have more people we could have, should we explain,

1617
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: like what a deer drive is like for people that

1618
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: don't know, Do they know what we're kind of talking

1619
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: about right now? Take it away? Yeah, go for it.

1620
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: So in a deer drive, rather than like people traditionally

1621
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: just sit and wait for deer to come to them,

1622
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: that just be like regular old hunting typically. Um, a

1623
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: deer drive, you'll have people trying to push deer towards

1624
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: another group of people who are sitting there waiting on

1625
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: the other side of the woods or a marsh or

1626
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: thick cover. Everybody packs big dip. Everybody, everybody packs big dip.

1627
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 1: It's usually after you just watch the packers beat the vikings.

1628
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: And in the Midwestern States, Uh, it's a huge part

1629
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of their culture. I mean, I feel like people are

1630
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: getting away from the deer drives now but um as

1631
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: much as they used to do them. But anyways, you're

1632
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: trying to push deer from their betting area. Two guys

1633
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: that are sitting and waiting or what pushers and watchers

1634
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: or drivers and sitters. You can call them sal Dakota.

1635
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: We call them walkers and blockers come up. Pushers and

1636
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: what do you guys call them something stupid chasers and

1637
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: I call them drivers, drivers and posters. I do them

1638
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: posters because you're staying the post. So anyways, let's say

1639
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: you have a forty acre woods and you'll probably designe

1640
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna go sit and who's gonna push however you

1641
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,440
Speaker 1: want to do that, draw cards or whatnot. But the

1642
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: sitters will go on one side and they'll find little

1643
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: spots to sit out and usually once they're set, the

1644
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: pushers we'll go to the other side, and then they'll

1645
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: start walking towards the other guys um and between somewhere

1646
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: in between there. Hopefully they chase up some deer and

1647
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: they push them over to the sitters, um and you

1648
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 1: try and shoot them. It's most effective when you've been

1649
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: doing the same push we called it doing a push.

1650
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: You're driving deer, but you do a push. Uh, when

1651
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: you have a push that you do generationally because you know,

1652
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: because it could be like you could have a certain

1653
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: you could have a farmer chunk of woods whatever, and

1654
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: it's it seems I don't if that's true, but it

1655
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: feels like you could take every deer off it and

1656
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: put all new deer on it and give those deer

1657
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: a year and they're gonna leave that patch of woods,

1658
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 1: are going to sneak out the backs drive the same

1659
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: area and be like, here's what's gonna happen. If the

1660
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: winds the right direction, they're gonna go up that rich

1661
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: or they're gonna come right along here, or they're gonna

1662
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: go just left to that maple. And like and if

1663
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: you do it once a year and don't overdo it,

1664
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: but you save that drive and do that drive once

1665
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: a year, it gets to where you have great precision

1666
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: and how it's gonna play out. And then you're then

1667
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, who gets who's gonna go on that

1668
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: seth You go up to that spot And I was like, no, no, Rick,

1669
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: you go up to that spot and that gentleman that

1670
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: first drive where Steve had a little mishap with the

1671
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: set trigger that I put you up high because behind

1672
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you was a shale slide and the deer generally go

1673
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: up and they go above that shale slide because they

1674
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: don't like to go across it. Yeah, so like you

1675
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 1: learn how they're gonna do it. We had two main

1676
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: drives growing up, and we just knew. The first year

1677
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I killed was on that drive when I was thirteen, um,

1678
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: and I shouted for me to fill because they go

1679
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: up the ridge. I could see the just all I

1680
01:40:58,479 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: cauld see is like for me to fills, like the

1681
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: white throat patch sticking up above the edge of the thing.

1682
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 1: That sounds fun, great time. I feel like they're football

1683
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: analogies or like children's games analogies like it. It gets

1684
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 1: pretty serious because very fun. I've been with Cruise where

1685
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: you you get to the gas station more than they

1686
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: pick teams, and you're on like B team all day.

1687
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if B team's posting, you're posting. If

1688
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: your drive B team is driving, you're driving. And there's

1689
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: a guy who gets appointed a captain, and like if

1690
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of arguments about what drive to do next,

1691
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The captain, like he makes the final decision

1692
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: about what you're doing, so we can get it's pretty.

1693
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: It's an awesome culture. Maybe you're driving. I'll tell you this.

1694
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Deer driving is very blue collar. Yeah. Maybe meetaters shouldn't

1695
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: be playing kickball. We should started deer drive team. Yeah

1696
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: you can't in this Uh, in some states you can't

1697
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: dear drive. You can't, but you can't do it deer

1698
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: driving the state. If you look at how the legs

1699
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: are written, you can't do it. Dear drive, but do

1700
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: you drive? Is right? It's very blue collar. It's very scrappy. Yeah. Yeah,

1701
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: it's not like uh, you know, it's not like you know,

1702
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: sitting around you don't do a deer drive, then go

1703
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: have like, uh you know, a glass of red wine.

1704
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 1: Deer drives and drink bushlights. Yeah, you don't, like, oh,

1705
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: bourbon up and tune cup and smoke a cigar. It's

1706
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: like not deer drive it. You might pack dip put

1707
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: a little bloody merrymakes into a swill beer. Yeah, you

1708
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: can smoke a swish around the deer drive, no problem.

1709
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: And if you want more on Flintlock. On October, this

1710
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: guy we published an article written by Jordan Sillers called

1711
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 1: a Brief History of flintlock Hunting in America where he

1712
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: takes you from the nineteenth century to why not the

1713
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: eighteenth century? Well, because the technology sort of started in

1714
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: the sixteenth century, but the golden days were the nineteenth century,

1715
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: so that's where hen't even throw to the eighteenth century.

1716
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: It's it's brief, but it basically starts in the ninete

1717
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: that's a good article. How to read it? Alright, Spencer

1718
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,879
Speaker 1: new installment, we're gonna close out. We've been answering questions

1719
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: then only we know. Now it's trying to answer questions

1720
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 1: that everybody knows. It's time for the trivia segment, talking

1721
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: about the game away brought to you by Spencer new Heart.

1722
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: Oh but here's the most important part. Now we're gonna

1723
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 1: give away a seat at the Meat Eater podcast studio

1724
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: in order to play trivia with us. So we will

1725
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 1: fly you here to World Headquarters in Bozeman. Probably check

1726
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: you for guns. We'll fly you here to World Headquarters.

1727
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Not checking, We're gonna get one of those dogs. Yeah,

1728
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: keep your weed, yourself checking, make sure you're not like

1729
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: a pet infiltrator or something. Uh to compete around the trivia.

1730
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: So we'll fly in. You can sit here in the

1731
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: studio with us. We're gonna record a show. You can

1732
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: be present, and then you can participate in the trivia game.

1733
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna start the game. It's gonna start in October

1734
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: eighteenth and end on Halloween. So between the eighteenth of

1735
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: October and Halloween, go to the meat eater dot com

1736
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: slash auction to sign up for a chance to come

1737
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: to Bozeman and participate in a trivia segment on this

1738
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: very show. All expenses paid. We're talking flights, we're talking

1739
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: hotel food. Karen will deliver you to the room we're

1740
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: all sitting in right now, and you will get your

1741
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: own white trivia board. What do you think Spencer should

1742
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: have to go to their Chester? Should just go? And

1743
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 1: Spencer got a Chester coming to you. You come Chess

1744
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. At some point in

1745
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, Chest and will come to

1746
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: your hotel room, make you a drink and sing a song.

1747
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: We'll give you the address to Chester's house and you

1748
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: can show up there, or you can just show up

1749
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: at Chesters. And I've heard that we're probably gonna have

1750
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: to send you home with check baggage because you're gonna

1751
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: have so much meat Eater swag when you leave. The

1752
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: specifics aren't out there yet. But even if you don't

1753
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: want to come play trivia, if you just want to

1754
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: win a bunch of cool meat Eater First Lighter f

1755
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: h V for Phelps stuff, you should go enter in

1756
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: this giveaway. Experience the smell of this room yourself. Yeah,

1757
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: we got to participate in trivia, Come on, but there's

1758
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: no guarantee you're gonna win. You probably can get whooped,

1759
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: Briant whooped that trivia. Alright, Spencer, let's give a taste

1760
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 1: of what's coming when they come down to the studio.

1761
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: This is Meat Eater Trivia Trivia. You're not canna get

1762
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: from Jeopardy or Trivial Pursuit or any Bars night trivia.

1763
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: These are born out of the These are born out

1764
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 1: of the four verticals of meat Eater. What are they Steve, Hunting, fishing, conservation,

1765
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: and wild foods. And there is a prize. Meat Eater

1766
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: will donate one hundred dollars to the conservation organization of

1767
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: the winners choosing the first time we play Brody one

1768
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: with six correct answers. The second time, Steve one with

1769
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: four correct. This time, I'm thinking, uh, it will take

1770
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: another six pack to win, so I'm gonna need to

1771
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: bring your a game now. We can't wait to run

1772
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: this because I got I'm gonna run my own and

1773
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna play good. We have some housekeeping from last time.

1774
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: In the last episode, I asked what the term el

1775
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: dente refers to, and the answer was the duneness of

1776
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 1: pasta or rice. Sam Nichols and Bradley Shreking Gost reached

1777
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 1: out and said that it can also apply to grits.

1778
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: This was made famous by the movie My Cousin Vinny,

1779
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: when Vinnie asks Mr Tipton about his breakfast play the

1780
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: clip force Phil, Oh, I'm sorry. You testified earlier that

1781
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: the boys went into the store and you had just

1782
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: begun to make breakfast. You were just ready to eat

1783
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: and you heard a gunshot. That's right, I'm sorry. So

1784
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 1: obviously it takes you five minutes to make breakfast, right, right,

1785
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: so you knew that. Do you remember what you had?

1786
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 1: Eggs and grits? Eggs and grits. I like grits too.

1787
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: How do you cook your grits? You like regular creamy

1788
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: or out dente, just regular. I guess regular, instant grits.

1789
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Oh self respect and suddenly uses instant grids. I think

1790
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,879
Speaker 1: proud of my grids. So thank you Sam and Bradley

1791
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: for that info. If you said grits when I asked

1792
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: that question, you also would have been correct. Also, I

1793
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 1: asked what the name of the legendary fish was interrupt

1794
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 1: your quirt. Yeah, people were pissed about that question because

1795
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I didn't feel it was like appropriate. You were piste

1796
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: about that question. Other people were pissed. Okay, alright, I

1797
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: saw the email you sent me. The email people complaining

1798
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: about how I had nothing to do with nothing one person,

1799
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 1: so you and one person. Also I asked what the

1800
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: name of the legendary fish was that Max and John

1801
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: tried to catch and grumpy your old man Chester confidently

1802
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: as Walter, which was incorrect. The correct answer was catfish hunter.

1803
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: I had. I had about twenty people reach out and

1804
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: said Chester was thinking of Jane Fonda's nineteen eighty one

1805
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: movie on Golden Pond, were Billy and Norman grow obsessed

1806
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: with trying to catch Walter the trout. Well, handy, Jane,

1807
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,600
Speaker 1: So maybe that'll make you feel better. And finally, I

1808
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: challenged our listeners on the last episode to figure out

1809
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,799
Speaker 1: who the four representatives were that voted against the Endangered

1810
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: Species Act of nineteen seventy three. Eli Favreau reached out

1811
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 1: to the Library of Congress and got us that answer.

1812
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,839
Speaker 1: It was Robin Beard of Tennessee, hr Gross of Iowa,

1813
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: Earl Land Greeby of Indiana, and Robert Price of Texas.

1814
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eli. Those also like names from a long

1815
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: time ago, so it sounds like nineteen he used to

1816
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: be running around now, all right, And that brings us

1817
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:13,440
Speaker 1: to meet Eater Trivia play the music, Phil, Look, I

1818
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:15,799
Speaker 1: need to know what I stay in to win everything.

1819
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just tend to win everything. Well done, Got

1820
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: Spencer is good? I feel like Spencers get posched away

1821
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: by a real game show, Jeopardy real quick. Before we

1822
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: start the game, claydie, have something to write on I do? Oh,

1823
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: You're ready? Awesome. Clay is the only guy on the

1824
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 1: planet that's so honest that I trust him to play remotely. Yeah,

1825
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: me too, I would never trust myself to play remotely.

1826
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: Do Google searching? Okay, alright, first question and like the

1827
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 1: last time, the last two times we played This one

1828
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: is going to be multiple choice. The topic is public lands.

1829
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: What state has the southernmost glacier in America? Utah, Wyoming,

1830
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 1: California or Colorado. Which state has the southernmost glacier in America? Utah, Wyoming,

1831
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: California or Colorado. I feel like I got this one wrong. Dad,

1832
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: damn it. Hold on, Clay, don't be showing your answers yet.

1833
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: Damn what you got Cuddy. I have my glasses on

1834
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: so I can only see a full stuff. I'm holding

1835
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 1: back to the right time here. I will prompt you

1836
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: into show your answers. Does everybody have an answer? I'm

1837
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: not happy to reveal your answers. I am seeing one

1838
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: person got it right Chester. The correct answer is California.

1839
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 1: All states? Why why is that a public lands question?

1840
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 1: Because it's on public lands? All four states mansions have glaciers,

1841
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 1: but the southernmost in the USA is the lily Put

1842
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Glacier in California. It is about twelve acres in size

1843
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: and lies on the shaded north facing vertical cliff of

1844
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Mount Stewart in the Sierra Nevadas. It actually grew five

1845
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 1: percent in the nineteen seventies to nineteen nineties, but has

1846
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: been shrinking ever since. I knew I should have put

1847
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: that down. What elevation is it that I don't know?

1848
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: It's one of those like, oh, I didn't know that questions,

1849
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: Well done Chester, the second it's Chester, Chester. Did you

1850
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: guess or did you actually know? Guest? It was educated.

1851
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: That's right, he knew the Sierra Nevadas were high and cold.

1852
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: So question to the topic is cooking. If a recipe

1853
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: calls for s p G, what doesn't want you to use?

1854
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 1: Here's an example in the chef's notes. It may tell

1855
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: you to generously apply SPG to a deer steak before grilling,

1856
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 1: or to a fish filet before battering s p G.

1857
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: The example, again is in the chef's notes. It may

1858
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: tell you to generously apply this to a deer steak

1859
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: before grilling, or to a fish filet before battering. A

1860
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: lot of people right now in their answers fast Chester,

1861
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 1: do you have an answer? No? Everyone reveal your answers

1862
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: anyway we have. Steve says, salt pepper and garlic. Karin

1863
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: says salt pepper and grease. Clay says salt, pepper and

1864
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: garlicper have an answer. Creative answer by Rick is salt,

1865
01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: pepper ground and then pepper ground Seth couldn't come up

1866
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: with the g He said, salt pepper question mark the

1867
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: correct answer. The correct answer is salt, pepper and granulated

1868
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: garlic or garlic powder. Dude, come on correct correct, My goodness.

1869
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,719
Speaker 1: So we had Steve get it correct, we had Clay

1870
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: get it correct, and that it very very proud of

1871
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 1: that right answer. This acronym is especially common and divisive

1872
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 1: in the barbecuing world, where it's a popular rub for

1873
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: Ribi's filam and yon, brisket, tenderloin, chicken breast, chicken wings,

1874
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: pork chops, and more. Some swear by a ratio of

1875
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: one part salt, two parts pepper, and one part garlic,

1876
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: while others think the correct ratio is one part of

1877
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: each and the third camp swears by four parts salt,

1878
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 1: two parts pepper, and one part garlic. Now, if you

1879
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: want to make this easy on yourself, our friends, it's

1880
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: by stylogy. Actually sell an SPG rub that they say

1881
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: is their most versus Hoyle Bland. You can find good

1882
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: job SPG guys. Guys can get a call from a

1883
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: real game show. Do you have a contract with us later.

1884
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Why don't we start again the handshake agreement With the

1885
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: third question, the topic is waterfowl. Now. This next question

1886
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: comes to us via Samuel Saucier. If you have a

1887
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: question that you think is right for Mediator Trivia, you

1888
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 1: can send it to Trivia as a mediator dot com.

1889
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: Listen to this, keep thinking, I'm like at a different thing.

1890
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: The question I'm at like some show couldn't be this podcast.

1891
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: The question, again via Samuel, is what was the most

1892
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: harvested duck in America? In? What was the most harvested

1893
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: duck in America in? I think this might be one

1894
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 1: of those questions I don't know. Again, if you have

1895
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 1: a great question, like Samuel, send it to trivia at

1896
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com most harvested duck? Does everyone

1897
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 1: have an answer? I'm going out on a limb reveal

1898
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 1: your answers. Steve says, coot, Chester says green heads, Karin

1899
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: says Mallard, Clay says mallard, Phil says Mallard, uh Rick

1900
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: says Mallard, and Seth's is green wing teal The correct

1901
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: answer is Mallard green I mean green head. I will

1902
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 1: give it to you this stad you can't green heads.

1903
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: That's what people call them males. This I will give

1904
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: it to you. This status from the U. S. Fish

1905
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: and Wildlife Service there were two point nine million mallards

1906
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: killed in followed by the green wing teal at one

1907
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: point two million. Not a stupid answer, get all at

1908
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 1: one million, wood ducks at nine hundred thousand, and blue

1909
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 1: wing teal at eight hundred thousands. Why I put coop

1910
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: down because you're allowed to get like that's kind of

1911
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: a stupid answer. But here's the thing. Here's the thing

1912
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: in a lot of trivia people focus on like, like

1913
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 1: I said, it's a type of question that inspires the response.

1914
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I didn't know that. Of course it's mallard's.

1915
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 1: But I put down coots thinking it was like a

1916
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 1: surprise question. I get it. Last time I was doing

1917
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: the same thing. I put green wing teal because like,

1918
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: the Southern States are pounding teal for months before the

1919
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: our seasons come in close. Was a thoughtful answer, though.

1920
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: Thanks against Samuel for the question. The fourth question, the

1921
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: topic is fishing. Legendary angler Bill Dance is famous for

1922
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: wearing the same origin white cap with an upper case

1923
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 1: T on it. For the last fifty years? What does

1924
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 1: the T stand for? Legendary angler Bill Dance. You've probably

1925
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: seen his bloopers. Maybe you've seen him bass fishing. You've

1926
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 1: probably seen his show. I think it was like Bill

1927
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 1: dan Saltwater Adventures. Dude's been around forever. Is famous for

1928
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 1: wearing the same orange in white cap with an uppercase

1929
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: T on it for the last fifty years. What does

1930
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: that T stand for? Does everyone have an answer? Reveal

1931
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 1: your answers. We have Steve saying titillating. We have Chester

1932
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: saying Texas Football Team, Karin saying nothing. We have Clay

1933
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 1: saying Tennessee, Phil saying tight lines, Rick saying University of Tennessee,

1934
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: and seth saying Tennessee State College. The correct answer is

1935
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee. Yeah, I mean that that was

1936
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: given when I said Tennessee, University of Tennessee. That's right.

1937
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: I will give it to you. Bill helped the college

1938
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: recruit a high profile football player who was a big

1939
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: fan of fishing in the nineteen sixties. As a thanks,

1940
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee's coach set Bill a few hats. Bill then war

1941
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: one during a big tournament later that year which he

1942
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: won from that point forward, it be came his lucky

1943
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: charm and part of his identity. Now there were some

1944
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 1: context clues. They're like the origin white. Is there even

1945
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 1: a Tennessee State College? Now? I don't think, I mean maybe,

1946
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: but I feel like you made that up. You should

1947
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: just left it. Tennis, I knew, Yeah, I knew going

1948
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: into its gonna be question question five. After this question

1949
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: we will get a score update from Phil. The topic

1950
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: is gear. Some of the most popular binocular sizes among

1951
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: hunters are eight by forty two, ten by forty two,

1952
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: and twelve by fifties. In optics lingo, what does the

1953
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 1: first number represent? Eight by forty two, ten by forty twos,

1954
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 1: and twelve by fifties? What does the first number represent?

1955
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Give me there? I feel like I had to help

1956
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: out the room after last time. Last time, it's kind

1957
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 1: of about blood bath. So does everybody have an answer? Chester,

1958
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 1: you're still writing. You will reveal your answers in three

1959
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: two one. We have Steve saying magnification. Chester, you're saying

1960
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: how far you can see? Coren saying magnification, Clay saying

1961
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 1: I can't read his handwriting. I think I got it

1962
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: all I had magnification. Power crasted out and wrote diameter

1963
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: of lens. We have Phil saying thickness of glass in millimeters,

1964
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 1: We have Rick saying magnification, and we have Seth saying magnification.

1965
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: The correct answer is magnification. So does how far you

1966
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: can because the second number refers to the objective lens

1967
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: size or aperture, which is measured in millimeters. The bigger

1968
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 1: the number, the wider the lenses, and brighter the image.

1969
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: Phil hit us with a score update, I gotta, I

1970
01:59:57,960 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 1: gotta update. This won't give me a second, So Steve

1971
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 1: out at, Karine got it, Rick got it. Everyone but

1972
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Clay and Chester correct. We don't. We don't use a

1973
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 1: lot of botos in Arkansas. You're gonna say just the

1974
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: eight for them boys, all right? Stephen Ronella has two points,

1975
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 1: Chester the divest has one, Karin the producer has two.

1976
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: He's got to oh, I didn't had his last one.

1977
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna edit this south to making sound smart Californian greenheads.

1978
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 1: Chester has two, Karin has to, Rick Hutton has three,

1979
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Seth has one, Clay has three, and I have one,

1980
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: putting Clay and Rick tied for first. Alright, what if

1981
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: no one counts so many coots get killed. I would

1982
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: be confident that they do because they have a bag

1983
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 1: limit for them, and when you take your survey they

1984
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: ask you that one. We're halfway through the trivia. The

1985
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: sixth question is public lands. Steve an't gonna like this

1986
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 1: one either. I already know because it's like dubiously tied

1987
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 1: to pulpit lands. Yes. In the year two thousand, the

1988
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 1: International Hydrographic Bureau voted to add a fifth ocean? What

1989
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: is this ocean's name? In the year two thousand, the

1990
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: International Hydrographic Bureau voted to add a fifth ocean? What

1991
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: is the ocean's name? And I would be very curious

1992
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and you got kids in

1993
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: like elementary school or middle school, if they have an

1994
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: updated textbook, like if it has this in there or not.

1995
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 1: I would love to know the answer, um, because I'm

1996
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: very curious what is the fifth ocean's name? The room

1997
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 1: looks very stumped. What year did you say? Again? The

1998
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 1: year two thousand? Because say where it is? I will

1999
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: not accept that answer. This is the least confident the

2000
02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: room is looked. Yet, does everyone who is going to

2001
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: create an answer have an answer. Yes, yeah, Karan is

2002
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 1: still writing. I will have you reveal your answers. Now

2003
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 1: we have Steve saying antarctic. We have Chester with nothing,

2004
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 1: we have Karin saying nothing. We have Clay saying southern,

2005
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: we have Phil saying Antarctic, we have mix saying great

2006
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: legs and Seth with no answer. The correct answer is

2007
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: southern or Antarctic. So most of the room came through. Listen.

2008
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 1: That happens to be my favorite live under public lands.

2009
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with Steve that you threw me off

2010
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 1: with public lands. Yeah, yeah, public waters. You have something

2011
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: for the folks who aren't hardcore hunters and nangagography. And

2012
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 1: now did you say it could be accepted as the

2013
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,839
Speaker 1: Antarctic ocean? Correct? I'm just trying to tell him my

2014
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: my lead here. Yeah. Now, the i h O asked

2015
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: this question to a survey of its sixty eight member nations.

2016
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,280
Speaker 1: Only twenty eight nations responded, all of which voted in

2017
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 1: favor of adding a fifth ocean, except for Argentina. Now

2018
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 1: this is where it gets messy. And why South Pacific

2019
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 1: and North Pacific and stuff like that. Now, this is why,

2020
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: this is where it gets messy. And why. Twenty one

2021
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: years later, the I h O is still in limbo

2022
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 1: of officially recognizing a fifth ocean. Eighteen votes were cast

2023
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 1: to call it the Southern Ocean, while ten votes were

2024
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: cast to call it the Antarctic Ocean. Even more controversial,

2025
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,920
Speaker 1: the nations couldn't decide on if it should start at

2026
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 1: the sixtieth parallel south, fiftieth parallel south, or thirty fifth

2027
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 1: parallel south regardless, Organizations like Miriam Webster, the c i

2028
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 1: A World Factbook, Encyclopedia Britannica, and National Geographic Society all

2029
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: now recognize a fifth ocean as the Southern Ocean or

2030
02:03:56,480 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: Antarctic Ocean. You hate it? No, I like the great

2031
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: phenomenal question. Stupid category. All right, the seventh question, he's cooking,

2032
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,839
Speaker 1: What is the unit of measurement that indicates how spicy

2033
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: a pepper is? What is the unit of measurement that

2034
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 1: indicates how spicy a pepper is? No? Multiple choice? No, no, no, no.

2035
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 1: Like when you look at the menu, how many peppers

2036
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 1: they have lined up next to you? It's not a

2037
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 1: buffalo wild wings, but you do see this term thrown

2038
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: around in grocery stores. Mm hmm. Everyone have an answer. No,

2039
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal your answers. We have Steve saying, uh,

2040
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 1: what is your caps can the caps can scale. We

2041
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: have Chester saying Skillville. We have Karin without an answer,

2042
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: cat change a measurement. We have Phil saying Scoville. We

2043
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: have uh, we have Rick saying tears, and then Clay

2044
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 1: and Seth do not have an answer. The correct answer

2045
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: is Scoville heat unit. Well done the folks who got

2046
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 1: it right. This scale is named after its creator, American

2047
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 1: pharmacist Wilburg Scoville, who invented scale in nineteen twelve. For reference,

2048
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: a bell pepper is zero, a jalopeno is five thousand,

2049
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 1: half an arrow is two hundred thousand, and a Carolina

2050
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 1: reaper is two million. God, he needs to do like

2051
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 1: you know when when remember when you used to go

2052
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 1: to Mexico and things costs like eighty thousand pasos and

2053
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 1: then it does acts a bunch of zeros off, so

2054
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:47,480
Speaker 1: also knows like eight pay cells. Then you did you

2055
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: know keep between one and ten it's like thousand. I

2056
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: knew that. Yeah, I screwed that up. Question A. The

2057
02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 1: topic is conservation. There are nine species of sturgeon native

2058
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 1: to North America named two of them. Nine species of

2059
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 1: sturgeon native to North America. I need you to name

2060
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: two of them. I originally had it as three, but

2061
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,000
Speaker 1: I think this room we're gonna go with two, so

2062
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: we get some folks getting some right answers. Steve had

2063
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 1: a confident answer. I'm seeing a lot of eracing. Karin

2064
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: is googling something I already gave up on this question.

2065
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: Rick is also be racing. I'm not raising my answer.

2066
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 1: You just are you just going from bonus points. Go

2067
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 1: for bonus point, Steve, see how many you think you

2068
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 1: can get. I'm not going to give you a little

2069
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 1: bonus points. Does everybody have an answer? Who's going to

2070
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 1: make an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We

2071
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 1: have Steve saying white, lake, palid, and shovel nose. We

2072
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 1: have chess Are saying palaid white, and then we have

2073
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Phil and Korean without answers, Clay without an answer. We

2074
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 1: have Rick saying northern and white, and then we have

2075
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 1: Seth saying shovel nose and white. The nine species are

2076
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 1: Atlantic golf, short nose, lake, shovel nose, pallid, Alabama green,

2077
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 1: and white. So most everyone who answered, did get it.

2078
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't think Rick got no, I did not. Seth

2079
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 1: Chester and Steve all got that one correct. Although many

2080
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 1: of these species are considered threatened or endangered at state

2081
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Speaker 1: and federal levels, the rarest of the nine is the

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02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Alabama sturgeon. They are so rare, in fact, that one

2083
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: hasn't been caught since two thousand seven. The only way

2084
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 1: biologists even know that they exist is through the environmental

2085
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 1: DNA tracking. This is where water samples are taken and

2086
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 1: scanned for a targeted DNA sequence. In a study on

2087
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: the Alabama River, seven team of one hundred samples taken

2088
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 1: tested positive for Alabama sturgeon DNA, giving biologists proof that

2089
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: there at least a few still around. Wow, that's unbelievable.

2090
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: They did it similar in they only had like three

2091
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Speaker 1: of fifty. No kid, Yeah, and they're picking up I

2092
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 1: guess like the slime. Really interesting, man, So that they

2093
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: just scrubbed a bunch of stuff from the endangered species

2094
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: acting extinct. They finally took the ivory build the ivory

2095
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 1: build woodpecker, even though reports still come in every year

2096
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Speaker 1: first claiming its affiliated or however you want pilot, give

2097
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: us a score update Phil, we have two questions left.

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02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 1: It's a barn burner. We have Steve, Chester and Clay

2099
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 1: tied up in first place with four, Rick and myself

2100
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 1: have three, and Seth and Curin have two. Al Right,

2101
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Speaker 1: the ninth question the topic is upland this next question

2102
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,480
Speaker 1: comes to us. Be a Jeff Prender guest. If you

2103
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: have a question you think is right for media to trivia,

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02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: Senate to trivia at the mediator dot com. Um. There

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02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: are four states where you can legally hunt the state bird.

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02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 1: Name one of them. Now, I need to put a

2107
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 1: qualifier on this. Some states have a state bird and

2108
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 1: a state game bird. I will not accept your answer

2109
02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:16,960
Speaker 1: if it's a state where you can hunt the state

2110
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 1: game bird. Here's an example. Massachusetts state bird is the

2111
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 1: black capped chickene, which you cannot hunt. But they have

2112
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 1: also designated a state game bird, which is the Eastern turkey.

2113
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 1: That is not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for

2114
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: a state where you can hunt the state bird, and

2115
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: there are four of them. There's only four states, only

2116
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 1: four states. Jeff sent this in and I fact checked him.

2117
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 1: This is a phenomenal question. Great question. I don't think

2118
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have right, I have low confidence.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those ones. It's one of those questions

2120
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 1: that you feel like you should know, and so it's

2121
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 1: painful to not know. All right, go ahead and reveal

2122
02:10:02,840 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 1: your answers. We have Steve saying South Dakota, Chester saying

2123
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 1: South Dakota, Krin saying Virginia, Clay saying South Dakota, Phil

2124
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: saying South Dakota, Rick saying Pennsylvania. And he puts a

2125
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 1: whole bunch of state there. I thought, and we have

2126
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 1: list four of them, and we have set Pennsylvania. The

2127
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 1: four states are, which this room did very well, Alaska, California, Pennsylvania,

2128
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Speaker 1: and South Dakota, South Dakota. The Alaska state bird is

2129
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 1: the willow ptarmigan. The California state bird is the California quail,

2130
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 1: The Pennsylvania state bird is the rought grouse, and the

2131
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 1: South Dakota state bird is the ring necked pheasant. Little

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02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 1: little advice for you there. If I was doing this okay,

2133
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 1: I would have a way to build in that you

2134
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 1: get bonus points for having more of them on there,

2135
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: Like when I had that ship about sturgeons, or I

2136
02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: had a bunch of extras. But what if you have

2137
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 1: those wrong, then it take it away just named all

2138
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Speaker 1: fifty states. That's a good question. Yeah, no, no, no,

2139
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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I don't I don't know what to

2140
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 1: do if you got it wrong? To you throw you're

2141
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: throwing down hard. Yeah, you're throwing down hard. If you

2142
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 1: put them down and you're wrong, wrong, you're wrong wrong.

2143
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 1: But if but but if you, if you do it,

2144
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: it should be good on you. But yeah, you can't

2145
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 1: back out. You can't keeping this simple? All right? Do

2146
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 1: we do? We have a chance for a time. What's

2147
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 1: the score again? All right? So everyone got that except Carenzo, Steve, Seth,

2148
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 1: and Clay. No, sorry, Steve, Steve, Chester and Clay are

2149
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 1: tied for first with five and Rick and I have

2150
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: alright on this last question, and I need everyone to

2151
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 1: pay very close attention. Every detail matters in this question.

2152
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 1: Are we ready? Chester and Seth are pitching jigs for

2153
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 1: while I on the autumn equinox their boat bag if

2154
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 1: a train going this way on the autumn equal nights Chester,

2155
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 1: which I think they might have been Walleye Fish in September.

2156
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: All right, the question again, Pay attention, pay attention. You

2157
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 1: might It might even be helpful. To write stuff down

2158
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:21,480
Speaker 1: while we're going through this. This is very much like

2159
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,879
Speaker 1: the train traveling. I was hunting on the autumn equinox.

2160
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: What I liked about is when they got shooting hours,

2161
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 1: shooting hours like sunrise sunset. You guys were fishing with

2162
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 1: Luke Combs on the but we did walleye fish with

2163
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 1: Luke Combs the day after. All right, Chester and Seth

2164
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:48,120
Speaker 1: are pitching jigs for while I on the autumn equinox.

2165
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 1: Their boat is headed directly towards the setting sun. Chester

2166
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 1: gets mad at Seth because Seth keeps crossing Chester's line,

2167
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 1: So Chester exclaims, damn it, Seth, cast your line out

2168
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: the starboard side to the boat. To what direction should

2169
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 1: Seth cast? All right? Like north southeast west direction cardinal direction. Correct.

2170
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 1: Chester and Seth are pitching jigs for while I on

2171
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:18,000
Speaker 1: the autumn equinox. Their boat is headed directly towards the

2172
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 1: setting sun. Chester gets mad at Seth because Seth keeps

2173
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: crossing Chester's line. So Chester exclaims, damn it, Seth cast

2174
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 1: your line out the starboard side of the boat to

2175
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 1: what direction should Seth cast? Autumn equinox, they're heading directly

2176
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 1: towards the setting sun. They couldn't be pointed straighter at

2177
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 1: the setting sun. And Chester gets mad and he tells

2178
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 1: Seth out the starboard side to what direction should Seth cast?

2179
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 1: Does everybody have an answer? I wrong? Go ahead and

2180
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:58,600
Speaker 1: reveal your wrong. Steve says north. Chester says south, Karin

2181
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 1: says north, Clay said is north, Phil says north, Rick

2182
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:07,280
Speaker 1: says south, and Seth says north. The correct answer is north.

2183
02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:10,600
Speaker 1: There are only two days a year where the sun

2184
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 1: actually sets exactly due west, the spring equinocks and fall equinox.

2185
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 1: The front of the boat is the bow or forward.

2186
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 1: The right side of the boat is starboard, the back

2187
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 1: of the boat is a stern, and the left side

2188
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:25,360
Speaker 1: of the boat is the port. The easy way that

2189
02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 1: I was taught to remember this while working for the U. S.

2190
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,680
Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife Service is that port has four letters

2191
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:36,120
Speaker 1: and leftest four letters. Oh I was just that? Was

2192
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 1: I like that one spencer than you. People might have

2193
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:43,960
Speaker 1: a pain in the ask so they can't make a

2194
02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:46,840
Speaker 1: little scratcherowski. That's right. So I'm gonna need to pull

2195
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 1: up a tiebreaker, right, Yeah, you need a tiebreaker. Yeah.

2196
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 1: Show down of the centry against Stephen Clay. Yeah, alright,

2197
02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 1: do you already have a tiebreaker written up? I do.

2198
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:01,960
Speaker 1: As a reminder, the first time we played, we went

2199
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Speaker 1: into a tiebreaker. The tiebreaker question will be numerical, So

2200
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 1: whoever is closest or right on the nuts, if you

2201
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 1: got it, will be declared the winner and get to

2202
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:13,360
Speaker 1: choose where the hundred dollars is donated. You can all

2203
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 1: play along, but the only answers that matter are from

2204
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 1: Steve and Clay. Are you ready? And Clay, remember isn't

2205
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 1: being supervised right now? Entire research library at his fingertips hands.

2206
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 1: He's got his kids. They're like working their on computers.

2207
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:40,320
Speaker 1: They've got encyclopedias out and stuff. That's right, So here

2208
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 1: we go for all the marbles. What is the average

2209
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 1: salary of a game? Warden in oh? Y'all can play along,

2210
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:54,080
Speaker 1: but Clay and Steve are the only ones who are

2211
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:56,280
Speaker 1: going for the win, So this is gonna be the

2212
02:15:56,360 --> 02:16:00,320
Speaker 1: closest closest to the correct answer will be declared the winner.

2213
02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:05,680
Speaker 1: A getting the question what was the average salary? That's

2214
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 1: going to change your answers pre cod pre coviden, what

2215
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 1: was the average sald There's not like going closest. These

2216
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 1: are not prices right rules prices right is so pretentious,

2217
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 1: going no, I don't, I don't, I don't know. It

2218
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what. Yeah, I see Clay, do you in math?

2219
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 1: He's like figuring out. He's like, well, here's what they

2220
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 1: make an arkans typing stuff. Now he's explaining to the kids, Clay,

2221
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 1: do you have an answer? Okay, go ahead and reveal

2222
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:44,480
Speaker 1: your answers. We have Steve saying forty thou and we

2223
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:51,120
Speaker 1: have Clay saying what do you have? I'll tell you

2224
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: the other answers in the room. We have Chester saying

2225
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:58,200
Speaker 1: forty thousand, Rick saying and saying forty three thousand. You

2226
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 1: guys are all like in the ballpark, the correct answers. Kids,

2227
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 1: A right man, the the ie. Look what I wrote,

2228
02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 1: scratched it the l you know what, Okay, I'll tell

2229
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:29,600
Speaker 1: you how I got that answer. I remember one time

2230
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:33,720
Speaker 1: I was interviewing uh Arkansas game and Phish biologists and

2231
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 1: my dad always told me not to work for the

2232
02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:40,879
Speaker 1: government because you wouldn't make very much money, like literally,

2233
02:17:41,560 --> 02:17:43,760
Speaker 1: because I wanted to be a game warden at one time,

2234
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:46,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, nah, you probably only make forty thousand.

2235
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 1: I referenced that to a gaming Phish employee who looked

2236
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:54,080
Speaker 1: at me and said, well, we don't we make a

2237
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:59,600
Speaker 1: little more than that, And so yep, he stayed with

2238
02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:02,920
Speaker 1: the west average game Morden salaries North Carolina, which is

2239
02:18:02,959 --> 02:18:07,840
Speaker 1: forty thousand. Stay with you. Stay with the highest average

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02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,320
Speaker 1: game mordan salary is Illinois at eight thousand. To go

2241
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 1: work in Illinois. What a discrepancy man, because nobody wants

2242
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:20,400
Speaker 1: to live in Illinois. Sorry, I think I said the

2243
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:26,480
Speaker 1: average it's fifty eight, doesn't change, doesn't change who the

2244
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:29,800
Speaker 1: money goes to. Yeah, who are you going to? Hey,

2245
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:33,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to give it to the Western Bear Foundation. Yeah,

2246
02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 1: my friend Joe con Dallas out in uht in, Wyoming,

2247
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 1: Western Bear Foundation. Good guys, well done, Clay. Yeah again,

2248
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:54,080
Speaker 1: you need to go enter for this gameaway that starts

2249
02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:57,240
Speaker 1: on October eighteenth, to come play with the crew. Also

2250
02:18:57,280 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna win a bunch of swag. And then if you

2251
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:00,840
Speaker 1: have a question you think is good, right into trivia

2252
02:19:00,920 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 1: at the Meat Eater dot com. And while you're in there,

2253
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 1: uh sniffing around and entering to win a chance to

2254
02:19:05,720 --> 02:19:08,120
Speaker 1: come play trivia with us and make a couple of

2255
02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 1: bids on the old auction house of Oodities and the

2256
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:14,320
Speaker 1: money will go into supporting our land Access Initiative where

2257
02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:19,120
Speaker 1: we do projects to increase and enhance you're hunting and

2258
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:27,199
Speaker 1: fishing opportunities. Bye Clary