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Speaker 1: What we have one the US Court of Appeals for

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Speaker 1: of But you don't hear about any of that in

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Speaker 1: most people will have substantially lower premiums, big double digit

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Speaker 1: decreases in premiums under this new bill. They do have

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Speaker 1: to point out, of course, because this is just fact

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Speaker 1: that there'll be nine billion that's with a B in

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Speaker 1: tax cuts. Let me say that number again, nine billion

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Speaker 1: dollars in tax cuts. That's money you and I could

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Speaker 1: be paying for that would come back to us that

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Speaker 1: we could use for health care insurance. And let's talk

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Speaker 1: about degory for a moment, because and Chuck Schumer is

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Speaker 1: the most guilty of this, uh he is he among

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Speaker 1: many claiming that millions will have insurance coverage torn away

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Speaker 1: from them because of the reductions and future Medicaid spending. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not true at all. Anyone who was currently enrolled

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Speaker 1: in Medicaid is grandfathered in. They're guaranteed to have their coverage.

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Speaker 1: This simply slows the growth in new enrollment, something that's

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Speaker 1: very needed because the states are drowning in red ink

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Speaker 1: from Medicaid. I want to give a solution though, because

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Speaker 1: here's what's gonna happen, and Betsy and Harry, this is

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Speaker 1: what in the reality is. And I want the American

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Speaker 1: people to hear this. Sean's got a vast audience here.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna it's at the United States Senate. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's remember that the Republicans control the United States Senate.

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Speaker 1: So if they had the will to pass the American

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Speaker 1: Health Care Act, it would pass. If they had the

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Speaker 1: will to do it. Now, who does not vote for

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Speaker 1: it should be voted out of office next time around. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is okay. I want to follow up on that

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Speaker 1: pitch because this is important. So if you start seeing

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Speaker 1: the peel out or the excuses, which we're already seeing,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're saying, we're gonna take a look

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Speaker 1: at this afresh. Betsy first, then, Harry, But I want

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Speaker 1: to go Betsy first. What do you want to send?

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Speaker 1: What message do you want to send to the Senate

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Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and to also as well to

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. Well, I would certainly say to the Senate

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Speaker 1: Majority Leader and all the Republicans in Congress, if you

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Speaker 1: do not support repeal, you do not get reelected. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to add something to that, and that is

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Speaker 1: past the bill. How about that for a director past

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Speaker 1: the bill? I mean, if you can make it better,

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Speaker 1: great that that happened in the House, Harry, what's the message,

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Speaker 1: because there's nothing that's gonna happen here. No, Look, you're

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Speaker 1: never gonna get Chuck Schumer to agree to this, So

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Speaker 1: trying to cut that deal isn't gonna work. But the

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Speaker 1: Republicans have to show some discipline in getting the job

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Speaker 1: done here because the people paying the penalty, Harry, are

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Speaker 1: the American people. Absolutely, So if the Senate lacks the

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Speaker 1: courage to pass this bill, the American people should assume

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Speaker 1: the courage to throw them out. So this sounds you know,

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Speaker 1: it sounds or welly and you're saying, you know, call

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Speaker 1: out Congress on this. But Betsy, what if you were

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Speaker 1: voting right now, If you remember me've held elected office,

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Speaker 1: So if you remember the United States Senate with the

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Speaker 1: bill as it is, is there anything you'd want to

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Speaker 1: tweak right now to get it through or would you

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Speaker 1: just say, let's get this done. I think we have

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Speaker 1: to get it done and get it done soon. First

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Speaker 1: of all, it is standing in the way of tax reform.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, Obamacare is in a death spiral, and

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Speaker 1: if we do not pass this bill and move on

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Speaker 1: to this new system, millions of people who are depending

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Speaker 1: on Congress to act will be left with no insurance

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Speaker 1: alternatives next January. I'm also concerned that we talked about

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Speaker 1: the spiral of this, Harry, and we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: a lot internally at the A C. L J. We've

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Speaker 1: been involved in a lot of the litigation on on

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Speaker 1: Obamacare and some of the fall out on Obamacare, including

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Speaker 1: the mandatory aspects of violating people's religious conscious We all

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Speaker 1: litigate those at the Supreme Court successfully, but again, fighting

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Speaker 1: back on this has not been an easy task. There

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Speaker 1: is this sense of that I think we have right

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Speaker 1: now what I call a media filibuster going on, and

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Speaker 1: that is the media is going to focus and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about what's going on Russia with lawyers that

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Speaker 1: actually know how it really works, by the way, former prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that. But you look at

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Speaker 1: the media filibusters going on. The last thing they want

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Speaker 1: to happen is that I'm talking about the left wing

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Speaker 1: media here, is to see the President sign a healthcare bill,

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Speaker 1: because that would mean Jane the first hundred twenty days,

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Speaker 1: hundred thirty days, hundred forty days Supreme Court Justice executive orders,

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Speaker 1: healthcare reform, tax reform coming up. But that's so this

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Speaker 1: media filibusters happening. So we have to be aggressive in

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Speaker 1: our advocacy on this, absolutely, But the Senate and the

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Speaker 1: House have to take action. That's the best way to

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Speaker 1: fight against the media filibuster. So, Betsy, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the political reality of what we've got. So Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 1: got I mean, he took bold action on getting and

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Speaker 1: I gave him a lot of credit for this justice

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Speaker 1: Corse's confirmed by changing you know, changing the world by

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Speaker 1: the way, changing the world, in other words, restoring it

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Speaker 1: to what the Constitution actually said. I mean, that's all

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Speaker 1: that did was right nuclear, it's going original. I said,

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Speaker 1: I called it the constitutional option. But you know that

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Speaker 1: we're going to have a battle right now today on

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Speaker 1: this bill and also getting again this media filibuster that's

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Speaker 1: going on that nobody in the in the left wing

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Speaker 1: media wants to talk about. So what's the messaging right

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Speaker 1: now to the American people that you want to give? Well,

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Speaker 1: certainly that the silent majority need to speak up. You

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Speaker 1: see all of these demonstrations, town hall meetings are very

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Speaker 1: very vocal, demagoguic speeches by a very small minority of people,

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Speaker 1: the silent majority, who are saddled with double digit premium

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Speaker 1: hikes every single year, who can't get a job, who

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Speaker 1: have been pushed down to part time status, all because

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare. They need to speak up. And it's time

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Speaker 1: for members of Congress to represent them instead of these

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Speaker 1: fringe minorities. And here's the reality, folks, if we do nothing,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you who's gonna suffer here. Not members

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Speaker 1: of Congress. They got their own policies. Small business owners,

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Speaker 1: large companies, employees, self employed rates are going at in

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Speaker 1: an unsustainable Harry, you'r a long economics professor. It's not sustainable,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. So many people will simply flee the market.

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Speaker 1: Insurance carry yards are fleeing the market anthem signa humana

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Speaker 1: all over the country. And so essentially you already have

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Speaker 1: a death spiral and this death spiral cannot be reversed

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Speaker 1: under Obamacare. That's why we need a new Healthcare um Act,

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Speaker 1: and we need it immediately. Well, it's past the House.

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Speaker 1: We got to get it through the Senate. The CBO

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Speaker 1: Congressional Budget Office, as I said, projected that two million

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Speaker 1: people would be added to Obamacare exchanges by It was

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Speaker 1: actually about just under ten millions, so they were off

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Speaker 1: by eleven million. The CBO projections of profitability from health

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Speaker 1: insurers participating exchangers were not only off the mark as

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Speaker 1: we've seen as Harry just mentioned major insurance companies pulling out,

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Speaker 1: you also had CBO estimates, uh that were just incorrect

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact and realities. And Betsy, really quick,

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Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of time. Your statement to

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Speaker 1: legislatures right now, to the senators. We have to get

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Speaker 1: this done now, that's right. It's time to represent the

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Speaker 1: American majority who elected Donald Trump president and who demanded

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Speaker 1: repeal and replacing of Obamacare. All right, Harry Hutchinson, Betsy

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Speaker 1: macau McCoy, thank you so much, and Betsy, thanks for

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Speaker 1: your continue have you been fighting on this for a

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Speaker 1: long time. And Betsy McCoy, I appreciate you coming on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast today. We're gonna be back with a lot more.

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Speaker 1: In just a moment, we're gonna get into the Russias

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Speaker 1: to you one D nine for one Shawn. That's eight

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Speaker 1: one seven, three to six. Shaun's gonna be back with

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Speaker 1: us on Tuesday, celebrating the Memorial Day holiday as we

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Speaker 1: celebrate the men and women that have served and continue

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Speaker 1: to serve the United States of America. Our freedoms are

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Speaker 1: protective because of you, so thank you. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: all of you that continue in your families, that can

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Speaker 1: of us take it for granted. Here I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: that not for a moment. Coming up, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: into the Russia scandal. One thing they never put in

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Speaker 1: my introductions. Uh, you're not gonna. I think it's in

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Speaker 1: The client was the Department of the Treasury. The Internal

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Speaker 1: Revenue Service. Doesn't make you a lot of friends, by

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Speaker 1: the way, when you say that, But I was an

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Speaker 1: IRIS lawyer civil and criminal cases. We're gonna be joined

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Speaker 1: by three friends of mine, colleagues of mine on the

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Speaker 1: Russia scandal so called. I not only call it a

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Speaker 1: faux scandal, but I'm gonna tell you this. There is

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Speaker 1: not a crime of collusion. There's conspiracies to commit violations

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Speaker 1: of federal criminal law. But they keep talking collusion, whatever

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Speaker 1: that is. But I'll tell you what the crime is.

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Speaker 1: The crime is when British authorities say we're not going

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Joe Digeneva, Victoria Tuntsing, one of my

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Speaker 1: law partners, Andrew econom when we come back from this

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Speaker 1: break Russia collusion or a leak investigation, we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Coming right up more with John Henny program. Everybody, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Shawn Henny Show. It's Jay Sekulo sending

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Speaker 1: in for my friend Shawn. He's been back with us Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Happy Memorial Day, especially Torment and women serving our country

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Speaker 1: who have served and continue to serve and fight for freedom.

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Speaker 1: I have been practicing law for thirty eight years almost

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Speaker 1: and uh, I like practicing law with really tough lawyers,

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Speaker 1: really aggressive lawyers. In our next three guests, I have

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Speaker 1: a long time. As I said, I was a government

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Speaker 1: these folks. We're joined in the studio with me today.

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Speaker 1: And the Economo is a senior counsel for the American

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Speaker 1: Center for Law Injustice. Also a former U S attorney

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Speaker 1: from the Northern District of Georgia. Victoria Tunsing and Joe

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Speaker 1: Law firm of the Geneva and Tuntsing, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: how to practice law, and they practice lawed up. And

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Speaker 1: we've got right now, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I

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Speaker 1: want to start with a statement here quickly. I'm a

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Speaker 1: lawyer that deals with evidence. So here's the evidence we

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Speaker 1: have so far. Brennan, John Brennon. Here's what he says.

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Speaker 1: He shared classified informationarites go ahead, scared classified information with

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that it becomes unclassified. It means that

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Speaker 1: or to other partners. So that in itself is not unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what was shared or said in

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Speaker 1: basically violated to protocols. Yeah, okay, well let me a

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Speaker 1: couple of news breaking it hims here. Number one, Mr

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Speaker 1: Trump is the president of the United States. Okay, guess

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Speaker 1: what he doesn't have to do ask for your permission

643
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Speaker 1: if he's talking to the Russians or anybody else for

644
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Speaker 1: that manner, any of our partners. So that that so

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Speaker 1: I want to start with that, Joe, and get your

646
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Speaker 1: victorious statement. I got to quit another question, Frandy, that

647
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Speaker 1: statement about the president sharing information and that created such

648
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Speaker 1: a firestorm, if in fact had happened according to the

649
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Speaker 1: press reports, why is this issue even an issue of

650
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Speaker 1: he the president may have violated a protocol which the

651
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Speaker 1: president can't do. By the way, he hasn't have to

652
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Speaker 1: ask these folks to Claire. Go ahead, Joe. Well, we

653
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: have to understand who John Brennan is. He's a He's

654
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Speaker 1: a classic democratic apparatic. He's been around for years. He

655
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Speaker 1: has been in the intelligence community. He is widely widely

656
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Speaker 1: regarded as an intelligence hack within the intelligence community. He

657
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: is not well liked. Uh. You could tell from his

658
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Speaker 1: testimony that he was fairly seething at the notion of

659
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Speaker 1: the types of questions he was being asked, particularly by Gaudy.

660
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Speaker 1: But the President is the ultimate declassifier and classifier. He

661
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Speaker 1: can do whatever he wants. Nothing that he said to

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Speaker 1: the Russians was improper and certainly not illegal. He is

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Speaker 1: the highest constitutional authority that there is. Brennan was just

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Speaker 1: looking for a way to be negative violated protocols. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, Mr Brennan. Right, thank you for and

666
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Victoria. Brennan expressed his concern because people from Russia,

667
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Speaker 1: maybe people who were connected with the with the Putin.

668
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Speaker 1: We're talking to people in the campaign, you know, a

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Speaker 1: campaign that was looking to maybe we might be running

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Speaker 1: the world, and we have to talk to all these people.

671
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Speaker 1: Now if he expressed such concern about this possibility that

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Speaker 1: they might be compromised, Aunt of light one Republican who

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Speaker 1: has said, Mr Brennan, were you concerned when Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 1: who was the wife of the Secretary of State, received

675
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Speaker 1: five dollars for a one hour speech from a Russian bank.

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: It's connected with the cremin. How about when he when

677
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Speaker 1: the president went on the plane with Loretta Lynch, the

678
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Speaker 1: Attorney General, and your wife was under investigation that might

679
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Speaker 1: have been something. Well, the rush was uranium at the

680
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: same time that the Hillary was using the reset button too.

681
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Speaker 1: Here's her quote to help strengthen Russia unquote. And then

682
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Speaker 1: ranium deal that gave the benefactors of that gave millions

683
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Speaker 1: of dollars to the Clinton Foundation. What are you concerned

684
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Speaker 1: about that? Mr Brennan evidently not. So that was Brendan's comments.

685
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Speaker 1: Now I liked again, I like playing some evidence, So

686
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play another one for you. This is Senator

687
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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham talking to James called me the head of

688
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Speaker 1: the then head of the FBI, Number two, Marveen, You

689
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Speaker 1: said the following to a question, we did not include

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Speaker 1: any evidence in our report. And I say our that's

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Speaker 1: the n s A, the c I with my office,

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Speaker 1: the Director of National and Elegance, that had anything that

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Speaker 1: had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that

695
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: included in the report. Chuck tub then asked, I understand that,

696
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Speaker 1: but does it exist? You say no, not to my knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Is that still lactrit? All right? So now we've got Andy,

698
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Speaker 1: the head of the FBI, then head of the FBI,

699
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Speaker 1: saying it is no evidence of this. So you're a prosecutor.

700
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Speaker 1: You don't have evidence, you don't bring the case. Uh. No,

701
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Speaker 1: I do not bring the case if I don't have

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Speaker 1: any evidence. Uh. There has been no evidence here of

703
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Speaker 1: any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign whatsoever, whatever

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Speaker 1: that means. By the means, I don't know it's a

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Speaker 1: violation of the law to collude. It may be a

706
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Speaker 1: violation of the law to conspire, but I've never heard

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Speaker 1: that it's a violation of the law to collude. And

708
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Speaker 1: there's some collusion here, they say, But there's no evidence

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Speaker 1: to support any allegation of collusion that I have heard

710
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: from Clapper, uh, from Comey, or from anyone else that

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Speaker 1: is testified before any national investigative committee. There's a lot

712
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: of talk about things that occurred allegedly, but if I

713
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Speaker 1: had to have one hard evidence, the judge would tell me,

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Speaker 1: call your next witness and have elicten some evidence that

715
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Speaker 1: I can know of of actual conspiracy here to violate

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Speaker 1: the law. I can't find anything. So when I was

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Speaker 1: a Treasury lawyer, Joe and and you all were U

718
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: S attorneys, I used to have to write what was

719
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: called a criminal reference letter at CRL, and that would

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Speaker 1: be if we had an investigation going on and we

721
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Speaker 1: thought there was a crime being committed, the Treasury would

722
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Speaker 1: contact the Justice Department lawyers and say, here's our basis

723
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Speaker 1: of what it looks like here's what the evidence is.

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Speaker 1: I am still perplexed when you have I know this

725
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Speaker 1: is what this is. It's called politics, and it's to

726
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Speaker 1: do anything they can to stop the administration. You got,

727
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, you got a media filibuster going on,

728
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Speaker 1: and then this is part of it. But you look

729
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: at the statements from the leaders of the intelligence community.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and in the question by Senator Graham, N

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Speaker 1: S A FBI C, I A D and I So,

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Speaker 1: so what is underneath here the career prosecutors, what are

733
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Speaker 1: they doing now we have a special counsel. Well, I

734
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Speaker 1: would assume that they have taken over what was has

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Speaker 1: been referred to as a counter intelligence investigation, which the

736
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Speaker 1: FBI is conducting, which of course is not a criminal investigation.

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Speaker 1: And Rob Rosenstein, when he appointed Mueller, said that he

738
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Speaker 1: was doing so for reasons because of the heightened uh

739
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Speaker 1: interest in the matter, not because there was any evidence

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Speaker 1: of crime or that a crime had been committed, but

741
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Speaker 1: to insulate the department from further criticism. Um, what you're

742
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: watching is nothing more than an attempt by various institutions

743
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Speaker 1: to protect themselves. There is no evidence that any criminal

744
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Speaker 1: activity occurred. I thought it was rather laughable yesterday when

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Speaker 1: when when Gaudy asked Brennan whether or not he was

746
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Speaker 1: aware of any collusion, Brennan snappy little s o b

747
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Speaker 1: that he is, said, collusion is your word, not mine.

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Speaker 1: I wish Gaudy had said, no, no, Mr Former Director,

749
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Speaker 1: collusion is the word of the Democratic Party, not me.

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Speaker 1: It's the one they're using, So I thought i'd use

751
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Speaker 1: it in questioning you. Just remarkable arrogance by Bye. Brennan,

752
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: by the way, put the guy on a polygraph, give

753
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: him a grand jury subpoenis, and they asked him to

754
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: talk to anybody about X, Y and Z who we unmasked,

755
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: and why he did it, and whether or not he

756
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Speaker 1: leaked any information about So Victoria, I want to ask

757
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Speaker 1: that to you because you know, again we talked about

758
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: the evidence issue. The four of us are lawyers here

759
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: and aggressive lawyers at that, and we and we fight

760
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: hard for our client. And you know, these guys are

761
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna all and anybody involved this, they're gonna all lawyer up,

762
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: and they should because the fact of the matter is,

763
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Speaker 1: I think that the leaks are coming from the intelligence community.

764
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Speaker 1: So if you were the special counsel, which I think

765
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Speaker 1: this whole thing is a waste. But okay, they got

766
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Speaker 1: a special counsel. What would you be looking at really

767
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: right now? How about this, I'm gonna put this out there,

768
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Speaker 1: the British telling us today, you know what, we're concerned

769
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Speaker 1: about giving you classified information because it's leaking out of

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Speaker 1: your agencies in record rades. Go ahead, Victoria, Well, I

771
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Speaker 1: want to know. I'd separate all the leaks that are

772
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Speaker 1: out there, and then I'd want to know who all

773
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Speaker 1: had access to this material. When I was gold Letters

774
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Speaker 1: chief counsel, he used to always go against it. All.

775
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Speaker 1: You can't have a leak investigation because five people had access. Well,

776
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Speaker 1: that's not the kind of stuff that has been leaking

777
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: out here. They This has been classified information that has

778
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Speaker 1: only been available to a handful of people, and certainly

779
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: the unmasking it can only be done by a handful

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Speaker 1: of people. So I'd start right there with those people

781
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Speaker 1: and focus in on each one of them. I also

782
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: think that something very important happened today when Theresa May

783
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Speaker 1: said she was going to raise this personally with the

784
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Speaker 1: President and they were deeply concerned about the leaks from

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Speaker 1: the American intelligence community. That was a slap in the

786
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Speaker 1: face to John Brennan and everybody else in the intelligence community.

787
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Speaker 1: And may I say also to the people in the

788
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice who up until now apparently have not

789
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: been investigating the leaks. Now why that is, I cannot

790
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: tell you, because the only crime we know for certain

791
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: that has occurred is the unmasking and the revelation of

792
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: Michael Flynn's name phone calls that are top secret code work.

793
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: So believe me, there have been lots of crimes committed,

794
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: and there's not one shred of any evidence that any

795
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: of them have been committed by the President anyone associated

796
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: with him, is current administration or his camp. No. So

797
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: what I've been saying from the outset is the leaks

798
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: are the crime, and Andy, when you have a leak,

799
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: you should in panel. And We've been saying this on

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00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: this broadcast with John for a long time. I've been

801
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: saying it, uh, in in our work around the country.

802
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Impaneled the Grand jury and start finding out these leakers.

803
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: That's right. You need to start issuing subpoenas to some

804
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: people and bring him into the Grand jury and let

805
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: him testify us to what is going on here. And

806
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: I think that's what ought to be done to determine

807
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: whether or not a crime has been committed, and not

808
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: to have all these talks and allegations and suggestions of

809
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: as Joe said or somebody that there's a collusion here,

810
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Speaker 1: which is not a crime as far as I am concerned,

811
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Speaker 1: as far as I know, Let let me tell you

812
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: something else here. How about this James Comey not exactly

813
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: a credible witness. I say, he suffers from selective disclosure

814
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Speaker 1: to order. And that's why he's testifying before committee, not

815
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: testifying before committee. Will testify before committee, won't testify before committee,

816
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: will not do it. Will do it only in private,

817
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: not only in public, because Victoria in public, he can say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't discuss that. That's classified. I know. I don't

819
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Speaker 1: think it will be a very pleasant hearing. I think

820
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Speaker 1: you will get nothing, just as we did when it

821
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Speaker 1: was the Clapper Sally Yates hearing. Everything was what we

822
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: can't talk about that. Even Sally Yates said she didn't

823
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Speaker 1: know of any of this. I mean she said, and

824
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Speaker 1: she was the acting director of the Department of Justice,

825
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: acting attorney General. Yeah, she didn't know anything and no evidence.

826
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Speaker 1: You know. Let me just say something about that. Where

827
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Speaker 1: was the Trump administration thinking of keeping the Obama deputy

828
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Speaker 1: attorney general and making her acting attorney general? You get

829
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Speaker 1: rid of everybody at the higher levels, because these are

830
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that happened. Yeah, you know, as

831
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Speaker 1: you were saying it, Andy, who knows Sally Yates because

832
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Speaker 1: he practiced in Georgia for a long time as I

833
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: did for a long time. It was the first thing

834
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Speaker 1: that you said, why is she the one helping the freest?

835
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Speaker 1: I could not a stand why in the world after

836
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Speaker 1: the Lauretta Lynch, the illustrious attorney general who met with

837
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton on the tarmac, and how what about that

838
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Speaker 1: as being collusion or conspiracy? We don't want to talk

839
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: about that, of course, But to keep Sally Yates, to

840
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: keep Sally Yates as the acting attorney general is a

841
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: was a serious mistake Trump administration. It was it was Look,

842
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Speaker 1: it was, I mean, you don't do that. They don't

843
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: do They never and by the way, Joe, they never

844
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: do it, right, I mean they never do that. Got

845
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: rid of all the attorneys when he came in. Exactly,

846
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: it's just perfectly fine that when Jeff Sessions asked about

847
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Speaker 1: a month after into his term, Well, all the U. S. Attorneys.

848
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Speaker 1: It was terrible. Oh my god, he's asking he's getting

849
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: rid of all the U. S. Attorneys. Yeah, well, you know, look,

850
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: here's the reality. Our guys playing nice sometimes they got

851
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: they never do. Joe, I want to ask you this.

852
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Speaker 1: I'm running really short on time. You've gotta break coming

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Speaker 1: up right now. If you're advising the president, you and

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Speaker 1: I work, I mean we working a lot of cases together.

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Speaker 1: We're working cases right now. We're tough litigators. What are

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Speaker 1: you telling the president right now? If he was a lawyer, um,

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Speaker 1: I would stop talking about everything and say that that's

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Speaker 1: now under investigation. Next question. Just stop responding to all

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Speaker 1: these questions about the Russians. Don't tweet about it, talk

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Speaker 1: about your program, talk about taxes, talk about the war

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Speaker 1: against ice Is, talk about anything else but this. And

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Speaker 1: every time somebody asked the question about it, say asked

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Speaker 1: and answered, it's being dealt with. I'm not going to comment.

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Speaker 1: I have a suggestion, real quick. You should have had

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Speaker 1: and one who knows Washington d C. Instead, he brought

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Speaker 1: in He's brought in a new yor lawyer that does

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Speaker 1: all kinds of several Well, there may be there may

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Speaker 1: be multiple, we don't know. We don't know that. All right,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to talk about. I want

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Speaker 1: to say this also, uh, and I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: We're in a fight here for real freedom. So when

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Speaker 1: you got fighting for freedom, you know what you do,

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Speaker 1: You fight back, and you know what I like to

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Speaker 1: fight back with lawyers just like these. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: back with Morten Sean Hannity Program with Jay Sekulo at

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Speaker 1: J Sekulo back in more in a moment. Everybody, Welcomeack

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Speaker 1: to the Shoan Handy Show. It's Jay Seculo and that

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Speaker 1: We all have Facebook pages as well and social media.

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Speaker 1: We encourage you to engage that Shawn's gonna be back

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Speaker 1: in the saddle here on Tuesday, as we celebrate this

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Speaker 1: weekend our veterans and those that are serving and continue

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Speaker 1: to serve our country, and thank you every freedom we

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Speaker 1: enjoys because of you all, and we thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for that. Well, we've talked about the situation with

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Speaker 1: the Russia investigation and the Special Council. I'm gonna add

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Speaker 1: one thing to what our our great last panel had,

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Speaker 1: and that is, look, a special council has been appointed.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with completely with joe Ja Genoa said,

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Speaker 1: and that is the president just has to carry out

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Speaker 1: his agenda, and it's hard to carry out your agenda

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Speaker 1: in public when the media is engaged in a media filibuster.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the situation on the American Health Care

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Speaker 1: Act and how the CBO scoring in many respects, always

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Speaker 1: at fault. I'm never really right on healthcare, off by

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Speaker 1: some circumstances, I mean, just incredibly wrong. Yet it's now

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Speaker 1: at the United States Senate, it's got a pastor the

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Speaker 1: American people pay the consequence. And then we have a

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Speaker 1: NATO's summit that's going on right now, and the President

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Speaker 1: lays down a very clear line I thought, crystal clear,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it could have been any clearer,

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Speaker 1: and that was Look twenty three, you're not paying your

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Speaker 1: your fair share here. And also NATO, look you gotta

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Speaker 1: also get with the year twenty seventeen. We're fighting terrorists.

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Speaker 1: This is a real battle. It's part of the war

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Speaker 1: we're engaged in. So it's NATO gonna getting up to speed.

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Speaker 1: And what about the leak in continuing as the meetings

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Speaker 1: are going on, leaks are coming out. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: joined by two guests coming up, one of which is

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Speaker 1: handle classified information. Is gonna talk to about that, Colonel

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Speaker 1: west Smith also logan secular director of medi here at

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Speaker 1: the a c. L JAN. How do you get the

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Speaker 1: message back on course, back in the more in a moment, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Jay Seculent for Sean Hannity will be back Tuesday celebrating

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Speaker 1: the Memorial weekend as we all should be celebrating the

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Speaker 1: men and women that serve. We're gonna talk about NATO

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Speaker 1: right now, and I want to do this because the

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Speaker 1: President issued some strong statements. And we also talk about

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Speaker 1: messaging because there is, as I said, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: a media filibuster going on. So whatever the President said,

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Speaker 1: he's made strong statements in Rio strong statements in Bethlehem,

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Speaker 1: strong statements and NATO. And I'm gonna start with playing

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Speaker 1: a sound bite that will introduce our guests. Here was

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Speaker 1: the President at NATO. This is number eleven. Take a listen.

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Speaker 1: The NATO of the future must include a great focus

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Speaker 1: on terrorism and immigration as well as threats from Russia

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Speaker 1: and on NATO's eastern and southern borders. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think the President laid it right out there joining me

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Speaker 1: right now on the Sean Hanny Broadcasting And this is

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Speaker 1: Jay sekul' something in for Shan is the director of

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Speaker 1: our senior military Analysts for the A C l J.

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Speaker 1: Colonel West Smith. Then also our media director Logan Seculo,

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Speaker 1: and they're both with me in studio here right. Let's

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Speaker 1: I want to talk first West. You served in a

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Speaker 1: lot of these countries where the President has been. You

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Speaker 1: served and in fact, many of you may know West

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Speaker 1: Smiths a very famous picture when Ambassador Stevens remains came

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Speaker 1: back to the United States. West was the senior chaplain

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Speaker 1: there for those killed in action UH in the United

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Speaker 1: States Army as a colonel, and he was the one

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Speaker 1: giving the conducting, the service and the return service in

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Speaker 1: between President Obama and Secretary Clinton, and it was West

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Speaker 1: Smith and that famous picture with the casket of Ambassador

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Speaker 1: Stevens there and West knows firsthand what was being discussed

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Speaker 1: to those families. And we've talked about that before. And

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Speaker 1: these families were told a story, a lie, basically. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to recap that very quickly. The Secretary Clinton

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Speaker 1: said the video, said it was a video that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the people. You were there when she said

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Speaker 1: that to the families, right, heard her tell two of

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Speaker 1: the four families that they that was the reason for

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Speaker 1: the attack and that they were going to to get

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Speaker 1: the person who produced the video. And then later on,

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Speaker 1: of course, during her campaign and during the Benghazi hearings,

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Speaker 1: denied that she had ever said that to these families.

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Speaker 1: And you were there. I was there, heard her say it,

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Speaker 1: and she basically threw them under the bus. All right,

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Speaker 1: let me go to NATO here. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: NATO issue first. The President said NATO now must focus

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Speaker 1: on terrorism. There has been He also called on member

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Speaker 1: states to start paying up. This is what it was

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Speaker 1: a campaign promise of the president. He's doing it. The

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Speaker 1: NATO of today has to be different than the NATO

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Speaker 1: of the nineteen fifties and sixties, It absolutely does. Whenever

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Speaker 1: NATO was founded, the primary threat was the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 1: And today, while Russia continues to to be belligerent at times,

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Speaker 1: and certainly we have troops in Eastern Europe because of that, uh,

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Speaker 1: the real threat, the more dangerous threat, is coming from

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Speaker 1: from radical Islamist and radical Islamic terrorism. And so what

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Speaker 1: President Trump is doing is trying to pivot and to

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Speaker 1: make sure that that NATO fulfills their mission of defending

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Speaker 1: against common threats wherever those threats might come from. And

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Speaker 1: right now they're not just coming from Russia, they're coming

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Speaker 1: from from from Islam Islamic terrorism. Right. So the President

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Speaker 1: is there, he's in front of the NATO members, right,

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Speaker 1: and he says, first, you must include a greater focus

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Speaker 1: on terrorism, and then you must pay your own way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you gotta start participating. Right, every NATO member, there are

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Speaker 1: twenty nations about to be twenty nine when modern Negro

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Speaker 1: comes in, are supposed to spend two of their GDP

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Speaker 1: their gostomatic product on on their military. And so far

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Speaker 1: only five of those nations, including the United States, are

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Speaker 1: doing that. And interestingly enough, Ja, the other nations are Estonia, Greece,

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Speaker 1: Poland and Great Britain. Uh, some of your major players

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Speaker 1: in NATO do not pay. It is unreal, the two percent.

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Speaker 1: But Logan, here's the problem the president makes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I played that strong statement in Rio, drive them out.

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Speaker 1: He goes to Bethlehem said stop rewarding those that are

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Speaker 1: paying for and and funding terrorism. While he's in front

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Speaker 1: of the guy that is paying and funding terrorism. I mean,

998
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Speaker 1: he says it right to his face. Then he goes

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Speaker 1: to NATO in front of the NATO member says, listen,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get up with the current world that we

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Speaker 1: live in. You gotta focus on terrorism. You gotta pay

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Speaker 1: your fair share. And what's coming out instead that message

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Speaker 1: is being broadcast. But what's coming out is breaking news

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Speaker 1: alerts CNN saying another source has indicated a leak on

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Speaker 1: what happened in Manchester, stepping on the message exactly. It's

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Speaker 1: become a huge problem for the administration and for just

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Speaker 1: the way we tolerate life in general. Right now. Is

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Speaker 1: that the real news, the big news that's happening, is

1009
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Speaker 1: squashed by the narrative that is presented. And I think

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Speaker 1: that anything right now, specifically with these leaks happening, you

1011
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Speaker 1: have the situation where the narrative is controlled by the

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Speaker 1: media and they can pick apart anything to pull apart

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Speaker 1: exactly what they know is gonna give enough clicks, Exactly

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Speaker 1: what they know is gonna get enough people to not

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Speaker 1: even pay attention to the good part that happened. That

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Speaker 1: almost is universally agreeable that everyone can look at and go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a win, um, and they'll take those small bits

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Speaker 1: and pieces and they'll spend it happen during the Manchester

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Speaker 1: attack as well, where as people like CNN we're throwing

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Speaker 1: out different headlines as the attack was unfolding, but not

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. Just had to do that

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Speaker 1: or even would go after people that were exclusively covering that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well they made that statement about Fox. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're covering the Russia probe. She you know,

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Speaker 1: Manchester was what's driving prime time? And what are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? We're talking about the Trump basted Intel chiefs

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Speaker 1: to dispute the FBI Russian probe, and what is Fox

1028
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Speaker 1: talking about? British board fatalities at Ariana Grande concert. You

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Speaker 1: know when in a major massive terrorist tech for the

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Speaker 1: biggest in the UK. So it's insane situation where it's

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Speaker 1: almost like you said, a no win where I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is like any other presidency where there's going

1033
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Speaker 1: to be those those big wins from the press. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's just the nature of it. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about how do you fix that in the moment

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Speaker 1: west Looking at the statements that the President made on NATO,

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Speaker 1: the job of NATO right now and the complexities of

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Speaker 1: the world we live in, how does NATO play into

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Speaker 1: that Because a lot of people saying, do we really

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Speaker 1: need NATO anymore? And I take the view that the

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Speaker 1: President is right, we need NATO when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the new threat that we're facing. Yes, absolutely we do.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, you ask the United Kingdom and

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Speaker 1: the British subjects there do you need NATO for your defense?

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Speaker 1: And I think that the answer of beer resounding yes.

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Speaker 1: Part of what's going on though, and the President is

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Speaker 1: getting pushed back in Brussels about his call to to

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Speaker 1: fer NATO to help with the fight against terrorism, uh,

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Speaker 1: and it reflects a weakened NATO j due in part

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Speaker 1: uh to the fectless leadership of the previous administration, they

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Speaker 1: were so anxious to minimize the perceived threat of terrorism

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Speaker 1: so that it would fit their political narrative j with

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Speaker 1: the president. For example, in two thousand and fourteen, President

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Speaker 1: Obama declaring the Afghan War over and withdrawing American troops.

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Speaker 1: What that that did? It allowed NATO to back off

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Speaker 1: from their commitments. And now President Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: get them to do what they had done previous to

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, and that is to stand with

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Speaker 1: the United States UH in the fight against Terra common defense,

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Speaker 1: which is NATO's charge, and that's what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Common defense is supposed to be without qualifications UH. Article

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Speaker 1: five they talk about a lot. If one members attacked,

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Speaker 1: it's like as if they were all attacked. But if

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Speaker 1: Islamist terrorism is truly a threat, which it is, then NATO,

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Speaker 1: if it's a threat to NATO or any one member,

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Speaker 1: simply cannot categoryy rule out the use of combat troops.

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Speaker 1: And so far the secretary journalists saying, whatever they do,

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Speaker 1: they will not introduce combat troops again. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna play a statement of the president made again this

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Speaker 1: is in front of his NATO allies. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is in front of the NATO Allies number twelve.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. Eight member nations are still not paying

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Speaker 1: what they should be paying and what they're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be paying for their defense. This is not fair to

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Speaker 1: the people and taxpayers of the United States and many

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Speaker 1: of these nations, oh massive amounts of money from past years.

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Speaker 1: All right, So logan, there's an example. You're you're a

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Speaker 1: media guy, So there's an example of a statement that

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Speaker 1: everybody should be saying, right, left and center right, the

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Speaker 1: United States is paying a disproportionate amount. Everybody needs to

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Speaker 1: pay their agreed upon amount, and if you're interrears, pay up,

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Speaker 1: or at least have a plan to pay up. That

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00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: should be a message everybody's agreeing with. Yet most of

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Speaker 1: the media blocks that. It doesn't even drive a headline.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why there's nothing controversial about that statement,

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Speaker 1: so therefore it's not gonna be talked about. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the number one focus that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: What gets the clicks? What are people watching? It's controversy,

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00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: it's something they can pick apart and take down the president,

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00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: say something negative about him. There's really very few topics

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00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: that they can't take in spin. And I think that's

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00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna be the issue coming forward is how do you

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: react to that there are there isn't going to be

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Speaker 1: that in unifying moment. Kind of takes you back to

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush first term pre nine eleven. All it

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: was was, you know, essentially this, but I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: a little less of hostility, more in a joking way,

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00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: fun of them. But now if such hostility we all

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Speaker 1: have social media, you can be much more trust me,

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Speaker 1: I feel like probably be the same with him. Then

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Speaker 1: much more visceral language coming out of both people and

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Speaker 1: the press. So the question is, now, what do you do.

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Speaker 1: Do you move forward and say I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: pay attention to anything the press is saying, I'm not

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00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna pay attention to what is happening on social media

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: and just say I'm putting my policies through. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the job done, like I said, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: get done, and don't focus on what's happening in the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media. And that's a tough thing to do. It's

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Speaker 1: a really well I think so because you look at this,

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: there's there's not a unifying issue At this point, there's

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Speaker 1: not one thing that we can agree on and say yes,

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00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: we get behind it. If it is it's something like

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Speaker 1: what the what the clip was, which isn't enough of

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: a story get everyone excited. Yeah, it's what's interesting about

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Speaker 1: that is west is that he does this in front

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Speaker 1: of the U and NATO members, excusing the NATO members

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Speaker 1: that aren't paying. Yes, exactly, that's a bold move. When

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Speaker 1: you're in front of the NATO members and you say you're,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you're not carrying your fair share, That

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00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: in and of itself should have been news that he

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Speaker 1: actually asked for the money. Right, it's and say what

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Speaker 1: you will. President Trump is a leader and he he

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Speaker 1: exhibits that boldness of a true leader, and he's not

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Speaker 1: bashful about saying things. And what is interesting I noticed

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Speaker 1: that was this when he was in ri odd a

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: few days ago. His his candor actually is refreshing. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that you would think, people in

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Speaker 1: foreign nations, who you might think they would resent what

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Speaker 1: he is saying, they actually, you know, they get it.

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: They trust him and they respect him for his bold leadership.

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Speaker 1: You know, Logan was talking about how the media is

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Speaker 1: giving us his information or disinformation overload. You know, uh,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Logan. The president really needs to focus

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: on his mission and as much as he can start

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: ignoring some of the rapid insults of the media. We

1137
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: have an old expression in South Georgia where I grew up,

1138
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: if you wrestled with a pig, you both get dirty.

1139
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: But the pig likes it. And I think the media

1140
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: they're sparring for if we didn't know, we didn't go ahead.

1141
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I think you're right in that fact. And the big

1142
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: thing is if your policies are successful, the tide will turn,

1143
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: and right now you're not giving them enough time to

1144
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: get the tide to turn. It's just attack, attack, attack,

1145
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: from all sides. I'll say that, from all sides. It's

1146
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: just going after. But we mentioned even just not even

1147
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: getting the news out there. This is what's happening. This

1148
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: was happening as those attacks for happening. Remember we're getting

1149
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Speaker 1: push notifications about the budget proposal during the attack Eastern time,

1150
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: everyone who has the CNN app gott to push a

1151
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: notification saying that Trump's first budget proposal going to Congress

1152
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday and safety net programs. As this was all going

1153
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: on now that could have been obviously probably an automatic

1154
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: thing that was that up to go, but no one

1155
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: was smart enough to say, maybe we should turn that off.

1156
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: We were smart enough to say, you know what, some

1157
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: of the stuff we have published going on later tonight,

1158
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: let's hold off on that and wait and go live

1159
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: and talk about what's actually happened in the world, what

1160
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: people matter. Why President Trump was elected, which is what

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: I've been saying the whole time, which was purely based

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Speaker 1: on on young families like myself who have kids, who go,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this world going on

1164
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: right now, and we have to do something to protect

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Speaker 1: You said that early on that it was kids were

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Speaker 1: that when they undercounted the vote for Trump, You said

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: it was family, young families like yours. I think going

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: to the polls saying you know what, I gotta vote

1169
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Speaker 1: for national security. I've been through this for eight years

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Speaker 1: and anything. If you liked some of the policies of

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Speaker 1: President Obama, you didn't. I can't find that hypothetical person

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Speaker 1: if you look at that and you'd like the policies

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: Barack Obama, but you look at it and go, but

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't feel safe. Yeah, that didn't matter, and you

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: knew that electing Hillary Clinton would mean the same. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's where a lot of young families came

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Speaker 1: in and said enough is enough. And the problem is

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Speaker 1: the media isn't giving those people enough of attention. And

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Speaker 1: I can't. I keep saying that said, you know whose

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00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: voice that they're drowning out? The media, the left wing.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to they're not because of programs like this

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: and what John does on TV and on radio. They're

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: not able to do it. But I'll tell you something

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Speaker 1: they're trying. Last thing West, how important is and I

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Speaker 1: want for people to understand real quick here how important NATO.

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Speaker 1: NATO is vital not only to the security of the

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Speaker 1: Hited States and not only interestingly enough to the security

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Speaker 1: of the European countries who are remembers. NATO is vital

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Speaker 1: to the security of the world and the and the

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Speaker 1: stability of the world because the threat from terrorism is

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Speaker 1: a worldwide existential threat, which means the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world that are member states, those native countries do what

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Speaker 1: the president in and asked for, pay your fair share.

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Speaker 1: If the countries met their burden, it would increase the

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Speaker 1: amount of money to NATO by billions a d nineteen

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Speaker 1: billion dollars. That goes a long way to fighting a

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Speaker 1: threat of terra I'm j secon went for Shawn hen

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Speaker 1: and he'll be back Tuesday. We've got a lot more ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna encourage you also, folks understand this is a

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Speaker 1: battle that's going This is an intergeneration conflict. That is

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're talking about. I want to thank our guests.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with more. We're gonna get into the

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Speaker 1: issue of this radical Islamic terrorism. Got some great guests

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Speaker 1: coming up, some more information coming as well. We'll give

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Speaker 1: you kind of a recap of where we all be

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Speaker 1: taking phone calls also at one eight hundred nine one Sean,

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Speaker 1: that's eight nine one seven, three to six. I'm Jay

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Speaker 1: Secular at J Secular on Twitter, sitting in from my

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Speaker 1: friend Shawn Henny. He'll be back Tuesday, back with more

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, everybody look back with the Shawan

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Speaker 1: Hendy Show. J Secular sending in for my good friend Shawn.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be back on Tuesday. Enjoying the Memorial Day

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Speaker 1: weekend and again and thank you to all the men

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Speaker 1: and women that serve and continue to serve our country.

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Speaker 1: Let me say a couple of things. If we want

1216
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Speaker 1: to get more information about what I do, you can

1217
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Speaker 1: go to a c l J dot org. I serve

1218
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Speaker 1: as the Chief Council of the American Center for Law

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Speaker 1: and Justice. We do cases all over the world. I

1220
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: do cases a lot at the Supreme Court of the

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Speaker 1: United States. We have a radio broadcast every day around

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Speaker 1: noon and most markets, and we encourage you can listen

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Speaker 1: to us there and also follow me on Twitter at

1224
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Speaker 1: j Secular when we're also on Facebook. I've got a

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Speaker 1: Facebook page, Jay Secular, the American Center for Lawn Justice

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Speaker 1: has a page coming up, Jordan's Secular. He's got a

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Speaker 1: Facebook page. And the music you're hearing from our band,

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Speaker 1: we've got a Facebook page. Two. The band does Believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, j Sekulo band we call it JSP

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Speaker 1: has a Facebook page. I'm gonna get into coming up

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Speaker 1: in the next segment of the broadcast. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: into a little bit of a more in depth discussion

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Speaker 1: of the fight against radical jihad. Zudi Jaster and Jordan

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Speaker 1: Secular joining us. Zudi, of course, has been on this

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Speaker 1: broadcast many times. Jordan's one of the co hosts of

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Speaker 1: our broadcast and as the executive director of the a

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Speaker 1: C l J and has done a lot of legal

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Speaker 1: work and diplomacy on these issues of terrorism. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into it so we understand the nature of who

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Speaker 1: we're fighting again. I'm Jay Seculo sitting in for Shawn Hanny.

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Speaker 1: We're taking calls later eight hundred nine one seven, three

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Speaker 1: to six. That's one, Shawn back with more. Jordan's secular

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Speaker 1: Zudi Jasser and your call is coming up and really

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 1: just a moment. I'm Jay Sekulo, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's Jay Seculo sitting in for Shawn Hanny. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back Tuesday. You can call us at one Shawn that

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Speaker 1: se three to six. I'm gonna get into the issue

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Speaker 1: of what's happening in Manchester because there's more developments, multiple

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Speaker 1: arrests now in Libya in this terrorist attack, and we've

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Speaker 1: got two great guests to talk about this. Doctor Zudi

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: Jasper has been on with Shawn many many times, been

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Speaker 1: on our broadcast as well. Former U. S. Navy medical

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Speaker 1: officer and staff position to the US Congress and Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court's got a great book out called A Battle for

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Speaker 1: the soul of Islam and Jordan's secular the executive director

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Speaker 1: of our American Center for Law and Justice, who holds

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Speaker 1: an LM degree from Georgetown Law School as well. I

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Speaker 1: want to go to both of you first on. This

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Speaker 1: will start duty with you think Jordan's looking at Manchester, Zudi.

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Speaker 1: Then thanks for being with us. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: what's concerning me, and that is it's I called the

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Speaker 1: after effect round up. In other words, you go in,

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Speaker 1: the incident, happens, multiple casualties, twenty two people dead, a

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Speaker 1: lot of kids, many many injured, and then the roundup starts.

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Speaker 1: Yet there was a problem with this guy known by

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Speaker 1: authorities in the community, in the mosque itself, and nothing happened. Jay.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. Thanks for having you.

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Speaker 1: Could not be more on target. This is the problem

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Speaker 1: is that we deal with these and this sort of sound,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, sonic boom after an effect and we

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Speaker 1: think that this is the problem. And not only did

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Speaker 1: they miss it, which was the known wolf, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy one of the thirty that was on the radar,

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Speaker 1: but they did not follow through because the entire the

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Speaker 1: entire mantra or focus of Homeland security being here in

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Speaker 1: America or in Europe is about violence. If they're not

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Speaker 1: strapping bombs working on building bombs, then they're supposedly not

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Speaker 1: part of the profile. And unfortunately it's not just the

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Speaker 1: travel to Libyan Seria that should have tipped them off.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the um background, but actually the fact

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Speaker 1: that they were dabbling in ideas that are related to

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Speaker 1: non violent Islamism, the moms, the mosque that was preaching

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Speaker 1: anti Western ideology, anti Semitism, homophobia that we're finding out

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Speaker 1: today that the mosque that condemned this act weeks before

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: had had sermons that clearly are part of this radicalization profile.

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Speaker 1: And how many of these attacks do we need to

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Speaker 1: be at Boston, San Bernardino. The San bernard Una shooters

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Speaker 1: were getting training at the Hodda School from from Cellfi

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Speaker 1: Jihadism in Pakistan online from California, and no one seemed

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Speaker 1: to think that was that matter because it was nonviolent.

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Speaker 1: We have to start paying attention to the non violent

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: precursors of these known laws and also of the rest

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Speaker 1: of the Muslim community. Well, Jordan, We've talked about this

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Speaker 1: a lot of both our leagal work in the American

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Speaker 1: Center for law injustice, and that is I'm very concerned

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Speaker 1: about what I just was talking to zoom Amount, and

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Speaker 1: that is this post justification or post action that takes place.

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Speaker 1: We've said you've got to be more affirmative, and the

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Speaker 1: President said that it well, he's been very clear about

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01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: the nature of what we have to do when he

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01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: talks about push him out of the moss, push him

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Speaker 1: out of the community. You got to drive them out,

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: push him out well. And if you have the known

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Speaker 1: ISIS connections, and that's what was reported here. The French

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: Foreign Minister talked about these individuals having the known ISIS

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: connect So they've had that contact between Islamic State recruiters,

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Speaker 1: whether that's online, in person, whether it happened in Libya,

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: whether it happened in travels in Syria, any of that

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: contact alone with a known terrorist organization should be enough

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: to execute the arrest. But we've kind of discussed this

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01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: problem of waiting until they've actually gone violent. I mean,

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01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: Zoody knows this from the military, but we're treating civilians

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Speaker 1: like military members. It's like you can't act until you've

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Speaker 1: been fired at until the other side, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: on how we need to operate in civilian life. In

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Speaker 1: civilian life, if you're starting to move towards acting or

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Speaker 1: firing or explosions or bomb making, if you're having those discussions,

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Speaker 1: that is criminal. You don't have a freedom of speech

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Speaker 1: to to go back have a conversation with ISIS. There's

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Speaker 1: no freedoms for that. And in the Western world we

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Speaker 1: have these ideas of freedom of association, freedom of religion,

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Speaker 1: freedom of speech, but there aren't freedoms to associate with

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Speaker 1: known terrorist entities or criminal entities. And you can act

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Speaker 1: before the crime has been the bigger crime has been committed,

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Speaker 1: because there was already cried. There were already crimes committed

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Speaker 1: here travel fighting with ISIS already in Libya. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are twenty three year olds that already have long

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Speaker 1: records of fighting with terrorism, and they weren't They didn't

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Speaker 1: do enough to get picked up by the British authorities

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Speaker 1: until after the fact. You know, Zudi, you have said

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Speaker 1: often on this broadcast with Shawn and also uh In

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Speaker 1: talking with me on our broadcast in Jordan's that this

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Speaker 1: is a problem within the Muslim community and we have

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Speaker 1: to be able to you as the Muslim community has

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Speaker 1: to be able to address us, and the President has

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Speaker 1: said that to the fifty leaders UH from Muslim countries

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Speaker 1: that were gathered in Riod. I was gratified that President

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Speaker 1: of bas joined the Summits and committed to take in

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01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: firm but necessary steps to fight terrorism and confront its

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: hateful ideology. And it's so interesting that our meeting took

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Speaker 1: place on this very horrible morning of death to innocent

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Speaker 1: young people. Peace can never take root in an ad

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: where violence is tolerated, funded and even rewarded. So Zudi

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: that was with with matt Mudabas in Bethlehem, and in fact,

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: we know that their violence is tolerated, funded and rewarded.

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Speaker 1: They get they get a reward from it, and the

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: American people are paying for it. But you've been calling

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Speaker 1: about this for a long time, that this is also

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Speaker 1: this is significantly an internal Muslim problem, and it's I'm

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Speaker 1: so glad you made the connection between Manchester and riad Uh.

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Speaker 1: These two have, these two UH you know, the active

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Speaker 1: chair in Manchester and then the speech the President gave

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01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: are deeply connected. We have to begin to look at

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: the underbelly of these acts of barbarism. It's not just

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Speaker 1: Manchester It's not just San Bernardino, it is the entire

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Speaker 1: global Islamist movements that are an ideology that can only

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Speaker 1: be addressed by Muslims. And as much as it was

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Speaker 1: great to see him start a counter terrorism center in Riyad,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like starting an anti cocaine center in Colombia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, it's a Muslims in the West, Indon

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Speaker 1: and in America to set up centers like that where

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Speaker 1: we can do the work to reform, to counter with

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Speaker 1: theocracy that you just can't do Insaudi Arabia because you

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: end up in prison and they're not willing to connect

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Speaker 1: the dots between their Sellafism and jihadism, which is militant.

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Speaker 1: So this is why the Acts of Manchester need to

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Speaker 1: finally wake up America and the West that listen. We

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Speaker 1: have to begin to reform and and create an anti

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Speaker 1: theocratic movement and you know, think Cold War, think Radio

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Speaker 1: Free Europe, and begin to think about how to engage

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Speaker 1: Muslims to counter the establishment of the Muslim community that

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Speaker 1: is the primary reason for these ideas being penetrated into mosques.

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Speaker 1: And the radicalization pathway is not just that last moment

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Speaker 1: when he puts on the belt. It's far before them

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Speaker 1: when enjoying that's what you were talking about earlier. So

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Speaker 1: in the in the way to engage this now, because

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Speaker 1: we have to look at how do we go forward.

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Speaker 1: And I think what the President said was the right

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Speaker 1: the statements. You're talking about driving them out, get them out,

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01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: but this has to actually be put into policy. And

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Speaker 1: the political correctness in the United States and in Great Britain,

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Speaker 1: were it's even worse, has really added fuel to this fire. Yeah,

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: the idea again of how many of these attacks before

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Speaker 1: we change our approach, law enforcement agencies change their approach,

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: they stopped just leaking out information and being sources to

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: the press and start focusing on keeping us safe again,

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Speaker 1: whether it's here in the United States or abroad. With

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Speaker 1: our Western allies who are facing this. You know, as

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Speaker 1: Zudi said, they have about identified We have about a

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Speaker 1: thousand now based on our populations. How hard to follow up.

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Speaker 1: It seems like with the billions of dollars we all

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Speaker 1: spend in these countries on national security, if you started

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: treating this more like organized crime, and again obviously knowing

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Speaker 1: that the driving factor is not money, but is the

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: the radical religious ideology and I think that because if

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 1: it's not changed, and if if, for instance, if Muslims

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Speaker 1: who are trying to do the right thing call into

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: the law enforcement and the law enforcement is afraid to

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Speaker 1: do anything about it, and they feel like, Okay, why

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01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: do I keep reporting? But you know, it reaches a

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: critical head at some point in the world, At some

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: point in the world, people will things will turn worse

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: for everyone. So it's not gonna be good for the

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: Islamic community and it's not gonna be good for for

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: freedom loving people around the world, and especially in the West,

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: because if there is some crackdown more it's that that

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: will be targeted on Islam. At a certain point, people

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: will take action to their own hands and if their

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: governments are not going to protect them from these mass killers. So, Zuni,

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Speaker 1: what what is the what do we Let's talk about

1411
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 1: proactive engagement here, because that's what you've been really dealing

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Speaker 1: with for many years and and successfully. But let's talk

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: about proactive engagement to address this because this is a

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Speaker 1: problem that is now and this was target against kids,

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01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: and we shouldn't be shocked at this, this kind of

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Speaker 1: barbarism that we're dealing with with groups like Isis and

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: al Qaida. But let's talk about the proactive engagement of

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01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: what we need to be doing now as a country,

1419
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: as a people. Three things. Number one, the President needs

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Speaker 1: to yesterday, when he gets back tomorrow, convene the Commission

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Speaker 1: on Radical Islam. He promised in the in the campaign

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Speaker 1: that he was going to convene and and have leading

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Speaker 1: reformers in the Muslim community be a part of that,

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Speaker 1: many in the anti jihad movement be a part of that.

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Speaker 1: To begin to have sort of this Manhattan project, if

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Speaker 1: you will begin to look at how do we create

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Speaker 1: a movement of ideas that are not only anti Isis

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Speaker 1: and anti anti violent extremism, which is my second point

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: is stop the violent extremism talk, which is just a

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Speaker 1: symptom like terrorism is a symptom, and get to countering

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01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: violent Islamism, so too is to shift the conversation nationally

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Speaker 1: strategically a d D state and uh all across government

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Speaker 1: to counter violent Islamism. And then third, to begin to

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Speaker 1: work with pro freedom, pro secularist groups that are reformist

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: in the Muslim community build platforms so that we can

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: teach our kids that it's far preferable to want to

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Speaker 1: die for America and die for freedom than ever to

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: want to die for the Islamic state and jihaddest identity

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: movements until we counter these identity movements from a positive

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: perspective life we did in Radio free Europe and the

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01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: advancement of We defeated socialism of of the Soviet era

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: by advancing capitalism, not by spreading the idea that socialism

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: was bad. We defeated them by spreading the wonder of

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: free markets. And that's what we're missing in this war.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at it, Jordan taking the next step,

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Speaker 1: and you've written about this, and you've talked about this,

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: you have a system in place right now. And we

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: talked about this with the failure in Florida and in

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Speaker 1: jack and Fort Lauderdale, where the individual had gone to

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: the FBI, Omar Martine in Orlando on the Terra watch list,

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Speaker 1: the Sarnt brothers interviewed by the FBI because they're traveled. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here you go and ford Hood in that situation,

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: so you know, which the government initially called workplace violence

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Speaker 1: and finally acknowledged that contact. That could have been enough

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01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: to put him in prison, but they instead promoted him

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01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: and moved him right, kept him going on because of

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: the political correctness. And it's not something that changes overnight

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: because of who you elect as president. Uh. The presidents

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Speaker 1: we've seen has had to deal with what the bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: is like and the undermining of his his his everything.

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Speaker 1: He's tried to do. So this, I think, and what

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Speaker 1: like Zudi said, these these ideas to implement are going

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: to take a lot of resolve. You have to really

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Speaker 1: be committed to changing a culture one not just the

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: culture in the Muslim world, but the culture in the

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: Western world of how to combat this, the culture inside

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Speaker 1: the FBI, the culture inside the CIA, the culture amongst

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Speaker 1: our Western allies that you can say radical Islamic terrorism

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Speaker 1: in Riad with the Saudis, and they're not they're not

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Speaker 1: shaking their heads and and and huffing and puffing about it.

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Speaker 1: But in America that you've got a lot of Islamic

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Speaker 1: leaders who do. And there's and I think that's because

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01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: they are used to again exploiting the freedoms that we

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Speaker 1: have in the West, UH, to its own detriment. Zudia

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Speaker 1: got just about a minute here UH on that issue.

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Speaker 1: The President made those strong statements in Riyadh was very direct.

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Speaker 1: But yet, as Jordan just said, the b I manual

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: takes out radical Islamism. Don't want to talk about Jehad.

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Speaker 1: We've got to change that culture too. We absolutely do,

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Speaker 1: and we have to because the reason you identify if

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Speaker 1: you want to engage Muslims, you engage us because the

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Speaker 1: elephant of the room is the Islamic interpretations. And the

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Speaker 1: diversity in the Islamic community is not ethnic of Pakistani,

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Egyptian or Western Muslims. It's a diversity of ideas. And

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: right now there's a single monolith. And what I hope

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: the President does in future speeches, it speaks past the establishment,

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: the corrupt establishment of the Arab tyrannies, and speaks to

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: the Arab people because the future of this cultural revolution

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01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: we have to see that America I think can lead

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Speaker 1: like the civil rights movement of our day, within the

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: Muslim community is one of representing individual rights against blasphemy laws,

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01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: apostasy laws, the persecution of minorities, et cetera. That's what

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: we need to have an of every day, not just

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: for a week after each Barbarica Juran fifteen seconds. Here

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: this is the war we win if we put our

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: mind to it. If we quit to place the policies

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: and practices, we can win this. We can win this,

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01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: but we have to change we we have to change

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01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: our mindset, our policies, and our practices. All of that

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: has to be changed or else this has continued on.

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's it was before night eleven, and it

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 1: was It's been sixteen years, you know, and it's this.

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01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: It continues to change. We have to fight back in

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: all the tools that we have. All right, Zudi Jafser,

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01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: Jordan's Secular. We'll be back with more. This is Jay

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01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: Seculent for Sean Hannity, back with more in just a moment. Hey,

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: Jay Seculent for Joan Hannity. Jordan Secular standing in between

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01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: through the next segment here, and I want to go

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: over something if it's kind of came in a little

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01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: bit late today late breaking news. Fourth Circuit Court of

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: Appeals declares the President's executive order on h immigration and

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: refugees issues quote unconstitutional, be costs. In context, it dripped

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01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: with religious intolerance, animous and discrimination. Jordan's we were we

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01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: followed in full disclosure. We filed a brief and support

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 1: of the administration on this we're not surprised about this

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: because this is going to the Supreme Court of the

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: United States. That's right. I mean, you look at the

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: breakdown here and mostly a apointees from the left, from

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01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Democrat presidents, and unfortunately you can now see how these

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: uh many of these controversial cases, not all cases, but

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: the controversial ones breakdown amongst party lines based off kind

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 1: of who was appointed by what president in their ideology.

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01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: Here there are is clearly an animous in these lower

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: courts with Donald Trump because it's all about not actually

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: the the executive order text, it's all about things he

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01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: said on a campaign trail. And oh, I think the

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01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: Supreme Court though, is a different makeup than these courts,

1528
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: Especially as we were just talking about the idea here,

1529
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: you were not going to be able to rely on

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: the courts or various different branches of government to get

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: the reforms done necessary to start really routing out the

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01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: problem with Islamic terrorism. Uh. It obviously it starts with

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01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: the president. But I think he's seen again all the

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: roadblocks that get put in your way, whether it's the courts,

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: whether it's the shadow government and the deep state in

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: your own intelligence agencies that try to stop you from

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01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: changing the culture. We got a lot more ahead. We're

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01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: gonna take your calls. Thanks Johan for that analysis. Again,

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01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: if you want to talk to me, it's Jay secularly

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: and for Shawn Hannity. One eight hundred nine f one Shawn.

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: That's one nine four, one seven, three two six, and

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01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna have sewn back here of course on Tuesday,

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: celebrating Memorial Hollies. Thank you for defending US men and

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: women in the military. Thank you for the freedoms we enjoy.

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: We couldn't do it without you. We'll be back with more,

1546
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: including your calls, in just a moment. Everybody, welco back

1547
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: to the Shawan Hanny program. This is Jay Seculo sitting

1548
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: in for Shawn. Will be back on Tuesday. That song

1549
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: with Lee Greenwood was orchestrated and played with our j

1550
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: Secular band and Lee had a great book, has a

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: great book called Proud to Be an American that my

1552
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: daughter in law, Amanda did the illustration work for and

1553
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: it's really aimed at young people to understand the great

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: story of American as we celebrate the men and women

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01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: that have continued to defend our freedom and have defended

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: our freedom. We are proud to be Americans. Let's never

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: ever forget that. All Right, As I said, I'm standing

1558
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: in sitting in for Shawn. He will be back on Tuesday.

1559
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go right to the phones here and

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01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Sharon's call out of Mississippi. Hi Sharon,

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: you're on the Shannony Shan Annie Show. Hi Jay. I've

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: just got to say it's an awesome show. I love

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: all the guests, every single one of them. And the music.

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: By the way, we're taking the same music time. Yes,

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01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: it's I said. My music taste stopped about nineteen seventy three,

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: seventy four. Yeah, there you go. But you can get

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: that based on Facebook. Uh the j Sekula band, We've

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01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: got a Facebook page. You can hear all these songs.

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Jaron, well listen. I think you might

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01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: can answer my questions I've had for a long time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Susan Rice uses that visa warrant as an excuse and

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01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: a cover. How many people it's a visor warrant like

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, a chain letter or a virus where

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01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: you know they listen to General Plan and then everybody

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01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: he talked to and then everybody does people talk. I mean,

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01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: a Foreign Intelligent Surveillance Act FISA warrant are proceedings that

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: are unique and different than any other kind of warrant

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: you would get. But it's it's targeted specifically at supposedly

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01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: UH conversations with foreigners. Someone from a foreign country could

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: be any foreign country friend or foe, by the way,

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01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: and but it's supposed to be minimized, so you don't

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01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: start disclosing American conversation. That goes into the whole unmasking.

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: No one knows except the intelligence community themselves, and they

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01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: haven't leaked yet the numbers, although they said at one

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01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: point was dred of them at one point, I know

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Speaker 1: that can't possibly be correct. By the way, there's no

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: way that I'd be shocked for them without many fires

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01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: warrants issued. But here's the problem. The whole procedure that

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Speaker 1: was utilized is the problem, and how the lack of minimization,

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01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: and so you had the unmasking, you had the leaking

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: of information. And the crime here is again I keep

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: going back. We talked about it earlier with our panel.

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: The leaking is the crime, and that I hope if

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: there's gonna be anything positive about the Special Special Counsel

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: is they could close up some of these leaks. But

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01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: we actually filed a lawsuit against some of the intelligence

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01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: agencies not to get the name of the people of

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: that unmasked, but how that process actually worked, and we

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01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 1: got the response today from the intelligence agencies. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's voluminous as a lot of volumes to a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of documents. So we're going through that

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01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: right now, but Sharon, no one will know the exact number.

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01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way that the systems set up.

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Speaker 1: Tom's calling from Connecticut. You appreciate your called Tom, Welcome

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: to Sean Hanny Show. Thank you very much. Jay, Yeah,

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: I just wanted to they make a couple of quick

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01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: bullet points and I'll let you draw your own concisions.

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Speaker 1: But after the Manchester attacked U, there were several taxi

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Speaker 1: drivers who were reportedly Muslim, giving rides to children going

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: back to their homes afterwards. Now there are several girls

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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: reported missing, and a couple of years ago there was

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Speaker 1: a report from Manchester actually Rockdale r O C. H

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Speaker 1: A l E. That there was taxi drivers taking part

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Speaker 1: in a U sex ring. They're kidnapping girls and then

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Speaker 1: taking them back wherever they were taking him. And then

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01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: those girls were found and I think that might be

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: something that's going on. Well, let me let me tell

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01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: you what we do know. Here's what we know. A

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: horrific terrorist accident incident, terrorist attack took play in Manchester, England.

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01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: And if you were a parent of a teenager and

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01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: did not know where your children were for hours and

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01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 1: it was if you remember I was rolling out that nighttime,

1623
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: it took hours and hours and hours. And it may

1624
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: have been that the cab drivers had plenty of good

1625
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: intentions and maybe somebody had ill intentions. I don't know.

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: This is what I know. The the terror attack itself

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01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: resulted in an additional form of terra and that was

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: the parents not knowing where their children were and that

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01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: went on. You'll remember during the night that was hours.

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01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to uh dismissed for a moment the

1631
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: serious issue that exists globally on sex trafficking. This is

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: a serious issue and at the a c l J

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: we have actually drafted laws for all fifty states to

1634
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: try to get enforcement on that. But the sheer nature

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: of the terror in these cases has multiple parts and

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01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,480
Speaker 1: that's what you have to deal with, and that's unfortunately

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01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: what has to be deal with, uh in these situations.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to John. It's calling from California. John, you're

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01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: on the show Handity Show. It's Jason Hill. Was glad

1640
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: to talk to you? Yeah, I talk to you first

1641
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: time caller, right, Would I like to ask you and

1642
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: see what your take is on it? Here we have

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01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: a Manchester attack and within days the British government is

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: arresting people all over the United Kingdom. In Libya, when

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: we did it in Paris, the Paris police did the

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: same thing. But when we did the attack, when attack

1647
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: was against Anghaji, when they kill our ambassador, we arrested

1648
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: one guy. How is that possible? Well, look the whole process.

1649
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I've said this and we're writing about this. Here is

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: the problem it takes. Why is it taking the terrorists

1651
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: act itself, in other words, the attack, to then do

1652
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: the round up because a lot of these people, most

1653
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: of them unfortunately, I mean it's in the Hited States too.

1654
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: It's true we're under some type of watchless surveillance, but

1655
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: we're not watching enough, we're not surveilling enough, and we're

1656
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: not interdicting enough to prevent this at the outset. So

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I think the entire operational basis upon which our intelligence

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01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: gathering is taking place after the fact to a terrorist attack.

1659
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 1: I understand that from an evidence preservation standpoint, I understand

1660
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: that from where does this lead? But I will tell

1661
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: you what the real problem is. It's taking that attack

1662
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: to then do the quote network arrest which took place

1663
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: in in in Manchester. I mean, think about that for

1664
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: a moment. These people are under surveillance, so that means

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: the surveillance isn't working. And this is a global problem.

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: It's not just in the United States, it's not just

1667
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: Great Britain, it's not just France. In every one of

1668
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Speaker 1: these incidents, these were known terrorists, actors, or on watch list,

1669
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: but evidently not being watched enough. And and to me,

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Speaker 1: that is the fundamental problem with all of this, And

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: that's what I'm really really stressing when I when we're

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: getting our information distressing with law enforcement. We've got to

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: be much more proactive. Mike from Dayton, Ohio, you're under

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01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: shand Shohn Hanny programs. Jays Second, good to talk to you.

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01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry now you're you're good Mike, go ahead, you're

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01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: on the air. Okay, Sorry about that. Hey, I wanted

1677
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: to say, we want to work on worldwide hair kind

1678
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: of obviously we have to do something about Islamic terrorism.

1679
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 1: And if we want to do something about Islamic terrorism,

1680
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of like your previous guests said, you have

1681
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: to work it from the inside. And the best way

1682
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: to work it from the inside is give those moderates

1683
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: space to breathe and space to grow while repressing the

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: guys that would do more harm. And and that was

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01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: what I discovered. I was in Iraq in two thousand

1686
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: seven to two eight as an as an advisor to

1687
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: the Iraqi Air Force, and the core of those people

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01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: were very, very moderate. As a matter of fact, they

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Speaker 1: bragged about soon he's marrying Shia, marrying curves. They bragged

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Speaker 1: about one of those students in particular. But you're talking

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Speaker 1: about fostering within the moderate community. Mike, what I hear saying,

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01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about foster within the modern community ability speak out,

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Speaker 1: But here's what they gotta do. I appreciate Zudi jass

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01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: are speaking out, but I can count on you know

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Speaker 1: a couple, you know, two hands. I mean, I'm having

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Speaker 1: other than Zudi Jasser and a few others. It's hard,

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Mike to find moderate Muslims that are and they're not

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't even like the term moderate.

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01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: Their reformers. They really are trying to reform from the inside.

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01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: And and that's probably what you were seeing when you

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: were in Irac. I mean, there are reformers there, but

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: but the reformer community. And I'm glad for Zudi Jaser,

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: but we could use thousand more of them, thousands more

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: of them to really make the difference that would would

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Speaker 1: count here. But I appreciate you calling in to the

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity broadcast. Gary from Knoxville, Tennessee, University of Tennessee

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Ball Go ahead, Gary, you're on the air. Thank you

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: for taking my fall. Uh. My question is U S citizenship?

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01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: If you are not born here and you find your

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01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: way by visa or wynot to the United States, is

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01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: it not a requirement for that person to renounce their

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01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: loyalty to the country they're exiting and then proclaim their

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01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: loyalty to the United States? And then if that's perfect

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: you talking about someone that's are you talking about just

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01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: traveling on a visa or are you talking about becoming

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01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: a US citizen. I'm talking about they actually apply for citizenship.

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01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: When you become a citizen, you have to where are

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01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: your allegiance to the United States of American and to

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01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 1: defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. So

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01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,959
Speaker 1: right now, that same person, if later on they proclaimed

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01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: you real lot to supersede the U s Constitution, does

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01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: that action not sufficient evidence to nullify their citizenship? So okay,

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01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: so you're talking about a citizen ship revocation proceeding, And

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01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 1: let me tell you the bar the standard for that

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: is very, very high and very difficult because in the

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: United States, we let people believe what they want to believe,

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01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: speak what they want to believe, but they can incite

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01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: violence and they cannot cause for the violent overthrow of

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01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: the country. So the argument would have to be made

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01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: there gary that by adopting this particular thought or practice,

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01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: that they are violently over or threatening the violent overthrow

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01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: of the United States. And but I will tell you

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01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: it's a very high burden, which means at the front end,

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01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: we've got to do guess what, extreme betting. So we

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01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: know who's coming into the United States, and we know

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01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: who these people are, and what they stand for, and

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: unfortunately having a boxer question that says are you a

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01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: terrorist or have you been a terrorist? Yes or no?

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01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: And if you answer no, we we say Okay, that's

1740
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: not vetting. What do we think about the terrorists? Is

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01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: going to tell the truth. And look at the situation

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01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: in Manchester here, this was the second generation the parents

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01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: fled Libya. Evidently the whole family got re radicalized. After

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01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: a generation that father initially was not was radicalized again.

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01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: The sun gets radicalized in a generation, goes back to

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: Libyan joining isist thing comes back and does the terror attack.

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: And I think governments, whether you're a citizen or not,

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01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 1: have the right to ask you what you're doing when

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01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you're going over to a country like that. I mean

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01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: the look, I do a lot of work in Israel,

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01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: and I will tell you when the Israeli's you come

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: back into Israel. I had this experience once where I

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01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: had I was on a government trip by the government

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01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: for the government of Israel doing a case at the

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01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: International Criminal Court in the Hague, and I had to

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01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: go to Israel for meetings I'm talking about with the

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01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Minister of Justice, Prime Minister, Foreign minister, and they gave

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01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: me this letter that was like a safe transport letter.

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: And I was at the airport in New York and

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Israeli security came up to and said, you know, we

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01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: want to talk to you a little bit. I said,

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01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I understand that. I appreciate that, but I've got this

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: letter from uh, you know, with the Foreign Minister's office

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: and the and the representative from the State of Israel said,

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01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't care if you have a letter from King David.

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you these questions. We need to start

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: operating the same way. And I actually I really appreciated

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01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: the fact that he said that John is calling UH

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01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: that question on the fourth Circuit. John, you're there, Thanks

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01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: for having me, and thanks for allowing And I want

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01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: to thank about Shawn's entire team and Seawan for letting

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01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: me sit in for him today. And I can't believe

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01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: you have or son in law. You're too young. I've

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01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: got wait a minute, I've got I've got two daughter

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01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: in laws, two sons, and four grandchildren. God bless you.

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01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: There you go, but go ahead. I do not understand

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: why it's the constitution gives the president the right to

1778
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 1: put a travel ban. Why we are even entertaining any

1779
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: courts interfering at all, we should turn the tables on them,

1780
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: make a new executive orders. It says, the traveling band

1781
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: is in effect wil court has the right to circumvent

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01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: the Constitution, and if they want to, they can sit

1783
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: it out amongst themselves. John, you must have read the

1784
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: brief file by the American Center for Law Injustice, because

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: our position was, when it comes to this, the president

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01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,879
Speaker 1: has the plenary authority and the courts really cannot interfere.

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01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: But here's what you've got. You've got a liberal judiciary

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 1: that is taking statements of and understand this. The lawyer

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01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: in the case in the Fourth Circuit argued that if

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01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton or President Obama would have executed the same

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01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: executive order, then it would have been constitutional. But because

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01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: it was President Trump and what he said before the campaign,

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01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's not constitutional anymore. I mean,

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01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 1: think about that for a moment. It's constitutional for if

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01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: it would have been President Hillary Clinton, but not constitutional.

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01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, if it was President Trump.

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01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: That was the decision they made. I've got some final

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01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: comments when we come back. I want to talk to

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01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: you about why is so important to be the Americans

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01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: that we're proud to be an American. You bet We've

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01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: got a lot more to talk about. In the final

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01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: segment here, I'm gonna give you a kind of a

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01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: summary of the day, a lot of news breaking. Jay

1804
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Secular in for Sean Hanny. Can follow me at Jay

1805
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: Sekulo on Twitter, Facebook as well, and again a c

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01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: l J dot Org back with more a moment alright,

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01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: J Sekul again has been a pleasure being with you.

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01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of breaking news right now, and

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01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: that is the Attorney General has just announced that he

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: is going to take the Four Circuit decision striking down

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01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the Executive Order on Immigration directly right to the Supreme

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01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Court of the United States. I suspect those documents will

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01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: be filed with the Supreme Court probably tomorrow. Again, it's

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01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: been my pleasure. J. Secular can follow me at J

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01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Secular or a c l J dot org filling in

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01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 1: for my good friend Shawn Hannity. He'll be back Tuesday.

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01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I've got a book coming out now in paperback called

1818
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: Unholy Alliance, dealing with Russia. I ran in Syria and

1819
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna be out in just a few days again

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01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: the books called Unholy Alliance, and it has been a

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01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: pleasure being with you. I want to thank Shawn's entire

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01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: staff and Seawan the entire team for allowing me to

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01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: sit in for Shawn today. As I said, he will

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01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with a lot of Can you

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: imagine the break in five days, the amount of breaking

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01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: news that will take place in this country, in the

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01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: next in the world, in the next to say, seventy

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01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: two hours or so. A lot going on and a

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01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: lot to be thankful for. And to the men and

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01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: women of our country who continue to defend us and

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: have defended us. I want to say on behalf of

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01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: all of us, from the entire Seawan Hannity broadcast, from

1833
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: everybody at the American Center for Law Injustice, thank you

1834
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: for serving America. Thank you for standing up for freedom.

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01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: You allow us to do this every day. We're eternally grateful.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day, everybody. Talk to you next time.