WEBVTT - Why Don't You Use Words?!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong's Joe Jetty Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>This terrorist regime began forty seven years ago by literally

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<v Speaker 3>taking us hostages, and then here they are forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>years later, slaughtering their own people in the streets and

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<v Speaker 3>then holding the entire world hostage economically by threatening.

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<v Speaker 2>To close the strait.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course President Trump has made it very clear

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<v Speaker 3>of the consequences if they try to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Iranians, that's Doug burghameas the Energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary, Secretary of the Interior. I think he is he

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the exterior. I thought he was the energy secretary,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Iran was going to try to mine straight of

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<v Speaker 1>horn Moves so that none of the oil ships could

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<v Speaker 1>go through there, and then we blew them, but Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>out of sixteen of their mining ships yesterday to try

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it open. But there still ain't no companies

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to send their ship through there. Their crews are

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<v Speaker 1>worried about dying, They're worried about losing their assets, their

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<v Speaker 1>boat and all the oil and everything like that they

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<v Speaker 1>can't get the insurance that they need to get from

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<v Speaker 1>the big insurance companies all based out of London, which

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<v Speaker 1>has caused their economics to go nuts. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot there. But then this Wall Street Journal story today

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<v Speaker 1>that Iran is exporting more than they were before the

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<v Speaker 1>war because they control it. They can send ships through

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<v Speaker 1>there because they know they're not going to bomb their

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<v Speaker 1>own ships. So they're sending more oil through the Strait

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<v Speaker 1>than they were before the war. Why are we allowing

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<v Speaker 1>that because it would be even more disruptive to the

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<v Speaker 1>oil market if we bombed their ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, probably, clearly. Yeah, And we don't want to start

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<v Speaker 2>a weird tit for tat where we're gonna sink you

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<v Speaker 2>if you try to sink any ships, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sink a bunch of ships ourselves. Yeah, the world economy

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<v Speaker 2>would go nuts. I think that is ironic as heck, though,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is. Chris Wright is the Secretary of Energy, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>charming fellow doing a lovely job too, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take your word for it. Yeah. Doug Bergham again

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<v Speaker 2>is mostly in charge of Bison's in Indian reservations. From

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<v Speaker 2>what I understand as the Secretary of the Interior. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure why he's speaking on behalf the administration, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind it. He's fine, fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you know who Francis Fukiyama is? Doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a politicary scientist. Yeah, he made one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst predictions in the history of mankind, and apparently he

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<v Speaker 2>has bounced back from his embarrassment in his writing again.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I almost hesitate to bring that up,

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<v Speaker 2>but people who recognize the name might be yelling at

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<v Speaker 2>the radio what are you quoting him for? But I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this is a pretty compelling piece. First, he's criticizing

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<v Speaker 2>Donald J. For is unconditional surrender quote last week. You

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<v Speaker 2>know I would respond, Hey, Trump says stuff and then

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<v Speaker 2>he changes what he's going to do, and everything is

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<v Speaker 2>strategic ambiguity with Trump. I'm not saying that's a good thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he c it would have been good if he'd communicated

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<v Speaker 2>to the American people more clearly what our purpose was here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just is true about Trump. Oh oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there'd be more support for the war if

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<v Speaker 1>he'd brought everybody along for the ride. But he clarified

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<v Speaker 1>either today or late yesterday what he meant by unconditional surrender,

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't sound like what you usually think when

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<v Speaker 1>you think unconditional surrender. So yeah, that's a phrase with

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<v Speaker 1>great historical weight and all. And Trump is no historian obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know an FDR said it about Japan, which

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<v Speaker 1>was very controversial. It was off the top of his head.

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<v Speaker 1>He fired it off. He hadn't consulted, None of his

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<v Speaker 1>people around him knew he was going to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, wow, yeah, yeah. Interesting. So as much as I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to continue to talking about that because because it's

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<v Speaker 2>important and fascinating, back to the Middle East, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me because he says normally a smart leader in

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<v Speaker 2>such a situation will try to lower expectations and declare

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<v Speaker 2>an achievable objective in the war, such as degrading the

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<v Speaker 2>better part of Iran's ability to targets to targets strike

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<v Speaker 2>targets with ballistic missiles and drones. This would offer an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for Trump to declare victory and disengage. Instead, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>did the opposite, except he won't. He will do what

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<v Speaker 2>you are suggesting anyway, and people will say, hey, he

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<v Speaker 2>changed his mind on the the the unconditional surrender thing,

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<v Speaker 2>or he didn't really mean it or whatever. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a big deal. But here's the really.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with unconditional surrender throughout history is it really?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really you know, a rat backed into

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<v Speaker 1>a corner fighting for its life. I mean, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to not give it every bit of fight

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<v Speaker 1>you've got. If your opponent is demanding unconditional surrender, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like announcing no quarter, there will be no prisoners taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, in that case, I ain't surrendering anyway. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's where it gets more interesting. He says, the new

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<v Speaker 2>objective of unconditional surrender suddenly raised the gold posts to

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<v Speaker 2>an unachievable height. Again, we're not doing that. Here's the

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<v Speaker 2>good part. There are any number of reasons for Ron

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<v Speaker 2>not to capitulate in the first place. Oh, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>that part is stupid too. In Iran today, well again

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<v Speaker 2>he's hung up on the unconditional surrender thing. In historical precedents,

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<v Speaker 2>he just says, stuff of Francis, give it up. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be gone by the end of the day. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to worry about that. A second reason

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<v Speaker 2>for thinking that surrender won't happen is that it would

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<v Speaker 2>be exposed the regime to internal disintegration. Iran today is

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<v Speaker 2>being ruled by force. A large part of the population

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<v Speaker 2>hates the regime of the clerics that killed tens of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of protesters in January. The IRGC and the besiege,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I mean, they got so many damned different

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<v Speaker 2>militaries and militias and stuff that besiege are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>internal goon squads. But there are hundreds of thousands of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But he writes, the IROGC and the besiege will not

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<v Speaker 2>give up their weapons because they themselves would not survive. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be torn limb from limb. A final reason for

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting unconditional surrender is that a good part of

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<v Speaker 2>the regime can survive and continue fighting for some time

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<v Speaker 2>to come. The air campaign has been extremely effective in

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<v Speaker 2>going after Iran's visible military assets air defenses, ballistic missiles, drones,

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<v Speaker 2>launch facilities, AMMO storage, military bases, and similar But the

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of individual fighters are still there and

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<v Speaker 2>will retain some residual capacity to fight back. And again

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<v Speaker 2>this is the part I find compelling. We've recently seen

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<v Speaker 2>an example of what this looks like. The nearly two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half year long war between Israel and Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>has destroyed a huge amount of infrastructure in Gaza and

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<v Speaker 2>is deprived Tamasa the ability to launch major attacks. But

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<v Speaker 2>they are still there, commanding some degree of popular support

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<v Speaker 2>and the remaining tunnels and shelters. They have not surrendered

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<v Speaker 2>and will be a big obstacle to any attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild guys and restore post conflict government. Gaza has a

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<v Speaker 2>much smaller territory and Israel's been willing to enter it

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<v Speaker 2>with ground forces. Iran, by contrast, is a very big

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<v Speaker 2>country and has lots of places for the surviving regime

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<v Speaker 2>to hide. It will not be possible to eliminate every

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<v Speaker 2>missile and drone under their control, so we can expect

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<v Speaker 2>continuing attacks on US aligned Gulf states and American facilities

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<v Speaker 2>into the foreseeable future. The threat of a random drone

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<v Speaker 2>strike hitting the big airline hubs in the Gulf will

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<v Speaker 2>be economically very damaging. And you got the Straits of

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<v Speaker 2>Horor Moves and the rest of it. So what quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote victory looks like, is still a really really open question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what do you think Trump is open for? U?

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<v Speaker 1>What is Trump hoping for?

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>It would seem pretty unrealistic to hope for any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of moderate leader to rise up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you wouldn't be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>With the current structure of all the different military forces

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<v Speaker 1>around them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we strike a deal with what remains the regime

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, these three conditions, I can't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>that or the other, or the dogs come back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can do. Agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be perfectly happy with some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>military dictatorship taking over that says, Okay, we ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to get a nuclear weapon, and we ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mess with the ships in the Strait, Okay, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be cool, We're out. I think it's kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that from the how much support for the war is there,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly among the Republican Party side. The Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 1>editorial board is got a peace out today saying don't

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<v Speaker 1>end this before you decimate them to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't just rebuild in a couple of years. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a Wall Street Journal editorial board. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Brett Stevens, the opinion writer for the New York Times, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>here are the things that we need to do. Seize

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<v Speaker 1>carg Island. So that's a little island there with the

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<v Speaker 1>Strait that really puts you in control of the Strait

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<v Speaker 1>of horror moves in their oil, particularly Iranian oil, is

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<v Speaker 1>where you'd get you'd have so much power over Iran's

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<v Speaker 1>oil there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's got an enormous oil facility Utah too,

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<v Speaker 2>unless I'm thinking of a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the key to Iranian oil is this carg Island.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trump has been saying we should take that. Going

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<v Speaker 1>back to nineteen seventy nine when the whole Carter hostage

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<v Speaker 1>thing was going on, Donald Trump, billionaire playboy, was saying

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<v Speaker 1>we need to take carg Island.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it bandied about on some podcasts and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was just crazy in a bridge too far

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. But Brett Stevens in

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times saying we should take carg Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's absolutely going to take Marines, I would assume, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, Yeah, mine or blockade Iran's remaining ports.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty provocative thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Destroy as much Iranian military capabilities possible over the next

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<v Speaker 1>week or two, including a second Midnight Hammer operation, destroy

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<v Speaker 1>what's left of Morand's nuclear capacity and know how, and

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<v Speaker 1>then threaten the gen regime with further bombing if it

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<v Speaker 1>massacres its own citizens, mounts terrorist attacks anywhere, or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's the moderate conservative Brett Stevens in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times sounding more warlike than Lindsey Graham in

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<v Speaker 1>that piece.

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<v Speaker 2>In the New York Times. So that's Oh, I almost

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<v Speaker 2>I almost forgot to bring up Pickaxe Mountain. You boys,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go down to pick Axe Mountain. It's got a

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<v Speaker 2>really old timey Western name. It's a new facility, a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear facility in Iran that's buried one hundred feet hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of feet underneath granite that they say is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be even harder to take out than the Fodoh facility

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<v Speaker 2>and would probably take footwear on the turf, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>So that might be coming up too. So back to

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<v Speaker 2>unconditioned because to the greater point, if that facility is

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<v Speaker 2>entirely intact, and and the and and this all settles

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<v Speaker 2>down and then six months from now if they announced

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<v Speaker 2>a we got a bomb, So, I mean, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be waterly unacceptable. Wow, that'd be a yeah, that'd be

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<v Speaker 2>something back to unconditional surrender. This is what I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Levitt was asked about what unconditional surrender means in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House press room yesterday afternoon, and she said.

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<v Speaker 2>What the President means as because that's the way she talks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to talk that way when she orders

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<v Speaker 2>a pizza, that's how she talks. It's so obnoxious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a hell of an upgrade from uh KJP or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That'sh sol stridens in her tone.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, what the President means is that when he

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<v Speaker 1>is Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces determines

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<v Speaker 1>that Iran no longer poses a threat to the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and the goals of Operation Epic Fury has been

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<v Speaker 1>fully realized, then Iran will essentially be in a place

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<v Speaker 1>of unconditional surrender, whether they say it themselves or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So by that whatever, by that definition, just when we

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<v Speaker 1>decided over they've unconditionally surrendered.

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<v Speaker 2>They will surrender under conditions that I have not yet set.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that's what it made. So yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody hung up on that as a phone now, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried about it. The oil situation is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>damned interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to take that carg island and take

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<v Speaker 1>Iran's oil and try to work out some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>deal like you get to be a military dictatorship or

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<v Speaker 1>the Revolutionary Guard runs the country or whatever, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to control a lot of the oil.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to agree to that, and you got to

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<v Speaker 2>agree to rename yourselves venez y Ran. I suppose if

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<v Speaker 2>you bomb them enough they agree with it, because I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're dead, really no, you know, the percentages

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<v Speaker 1>of oil you get don't matter that much.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're dead. All you got is an indeterminate number

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<v Speaker 2>of virgins. And that's kind of it. Yeah, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of liked the fact that Kobe Bryant had the

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<v Speaker 1>second highest score in NBA history, but some guy passed

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<v Speaker 1>him last night with eighty three points. Interesting stats about

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a sports fan at all, and a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay here, Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty three points, the second highest scoring game in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't come out of the game and here from

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<v Speaker 2>the tide and we see we went home.

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<v Speaker 4>It just became a domino effect from there. My teammates

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<v Speaker 4>was feeding and I was making shots. And then once

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<v Speaker 4>I got to seventy, I was like, well as well,

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<v Speaker 4>see how far you can get at this point, and

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<v Speaker 4>ended up eighty three once.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>So this gam bam ad a bio who I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>even heard of before. And I'm a kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>NBA fan, but he's not a household name like wil

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<v Speaker 1>Chamberlain and Kobe Bryant obviously, who have the will if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're a fan of the NBA at all

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<v Speaker 1>the low everyone knows the Lord the Wilt Chammerans scored

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred points in a game, which it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>stunning number. It was not a televised game, so nobody's

0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.280
<v Speaker 1>ever seen any highlights of it. Then Kolbe, toward the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his career, scored eighty two once and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the secondhest. This guy last night for the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Heat scores eighty three points. Miami wins one fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. It's a high scoring name. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>bam at a bio. He's the center slash power forward six',

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<v Speaker 1>nine twenty eight year. Old and here's the couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting stats if you're a fan of THE nba at.

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<v Speaker 1>All first of, all he shot about fifty percent for

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<v Speaker 1>the field and thirty percent from three point, land which

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<v Speaker 1>are both good numbers and put out lots and lots of.

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<v Speaker 1>Shots but when a guy is hitting like, that you

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<v Speaker 1>start following him Right, well that's the. Problem so even

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<v Speaker 1>though he's placed, center and usually centers can't shoot free

0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.680
<v Speaker 1>throws for, crap he made thirty six of forty three

0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 1>free throw a. Time forty three times he went to

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<v Speaker 1>the line and he made thirty six of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow so if a guy's on fire from the free from,

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<v Speaker 1>line it doesn't god do any good to follow him

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<v Speaker 1>because the clock is stopped and your scoring points is

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<v Speaker 1>how thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Six from the, line forty seven from the field shooting Fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, anyway those are some stunning, numbers and the team

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<v Speaker 1>went just berzircle at the. End they were so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to get, him you, know the second all time highest,

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<v Speaker 1>SCORE i Mean champagne and everybody really enjoyed, it so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not like The i've always really liked the

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<v Speaker 1>bit From Adam. Sandler that was one of his first

0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.680
<v Speaker 1>bits that got him On Johnny. Carson we back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day about When Wilt chamberlain scored a hundred points

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<v Speaker 1>and he's in the team. Huddles, first the team huddle

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<v Speaker 1>for the other, Team, hey who's Got? Wilt he's, Hot

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<v Speaker 1>and then the team huddle For wilt one of the other, Players, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Wilt i'm hoping my parents are.

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<v Speaker 2>Here could you a hundred?

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<v Speaker 1>Points, Yeah but the teammates for this guy were not, like,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey i'm, Hey i'm. Open they were like getting him

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<v Speaker 1>the balls much as they could see if they could

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<v Speaker 1>get him the.

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<v Speaker 2>Record, yeah, yeah what if fans it was probably? Fun oh,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah oh, yeah that'd be a. Hoot what team does

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<v Speaker 2>he play, For Miami? Heat are they in a playoff?

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<v Speaker 2>RUN i assume they? Are, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah that

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<v Speaker 2>had to be super exciting and. Fun on the same,

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<v Speaker 2>night THE us lost To italy in The World Baseball. Classic, Italy,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah Unless DiMaggio is still, playing that's. Outrageous italy has

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<v Speaker 2>some major, leaguers, definitely but they're like you're you haven't

0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.760
<v Speaker 2>heard of them unless you're a big Fan major. Leaguers

0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.320
<v Speaker 2>where we The United states are fielding an all star

0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.280
<v Speaker 2>team of some of the biggest names in all of the.

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<v Speaker 2>World and we were down eight nothing to The italians

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<v Speaker 2>last night and ended up losing and might not be

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<v Speaker 2>we might be out of the tournament depending on How

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<v Speaker 2>mexico does. Today, well that's why they, play you, know

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<v Speaker 2>a seven game, series and they play one hundred and

0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty two games because the nature of the game of,

0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.560
<v Speaker 2>baseball a less our team can beat a better especially

0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.520
<v Speaker 2>with a hot. Pitcher because, right. Exactly, yeah, yeah so

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<v Speaker 2>that's too, bad, though national humiliation during this time of

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<v Speaker 2>war would not be.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, yeah not good for ratings, either to lose THE

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<v Speaker 1>us Because i'm sure they were looking forward to THE

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<v Speaker 1>Us japan matchup. Eventually, okay we'll get into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the news on the way if you missed the Sec

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<v Speaker 2>This might have ass for Then, hey we got some breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>News dozens of countries have agreed to release four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million barrels of oil from the reserves in a move

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<v Speaker 1>to ease prices on the global oil. Market soo big

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<v Speaker 1>release of reserve oil during the uranium.

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<v Speaker 2>War which Helps trump out in the war. EFFORT i

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<v Speaker 2>think Hurts, russia which is. Good so there you. Go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>YEAH i don't recall a major news story that had

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<v Speaker 2>so many possible. OUTCOMES i, mean like the thing With

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<v Speaker 2>ukraine And. RUSSIA i can come up with like three,

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<v Speaker 2>probably but this has half a dozen of possible outcomes

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<v Speaker 2>ANYWAY i want it to.

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<v Speaker 1>COME i can make a transition from that to what

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to talk about in That i'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>tired of hearing the constant chatter of how expensive this war.

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<v Speaker 1>Is for, instance one of the big talking points of

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty four hours was the initial days cost

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<v Speaker 1>five billion. Dollars, really all of a, sudden five billion,

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<v Speaker 1>dollars gets your. Attention nine billion dollars of taxpayer money

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<v Speaker 1>stolen In minnesota. Alone, yeah wasn't of any interest to

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<v Speaker 1>you in a, time skull. Hawk now are you.

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<v Speaker 2>In a tiny? State?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, yes but five billion of the immense defense. Budget

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<v Speaker 1>get to your attention and that's like a headline for. You, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever speaking of wasted. MONEY Cbs Evening news last night

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<v Speaker 1>with a big story about all the fraud that's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in another different.

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<v Speaker 2>Area here we.

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<v Speaker 6>Go sixty nine year old Doctor Lynn ioni, was according

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<v Speaker 6>To medicare, records dying in hospice care two years, ago

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<v Speaker 6>something she discovered when she sought physical therapy for a pickleball.

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<v Speaker 2>Injury AND i said.

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<v Speaker 6>What Ioni's medicare number had been stolen and used by

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<v Speaker 6>a company to enroll her in hospice. CARE A Cbs

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<v Speaker 6>news investigation found an industry ripe for, fraud especially In.

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<v Speaker 6>California companies accused of overbilling real patients denied care and

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<v Speaker 6>it's costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer. DOLLARS Cbs news

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<v Speaker 6>analyzed every hospice licensed In La, county more than seventeen,

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and checked for the same warning signs the state

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<v Speaker 6>used in an audit of the, industry like multiple hospices

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<v Speaker 6>packed into one, building or caregivers whose patients suppose the

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<v Speaker 6>death store are discharged.

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<v Speaker 1>Alive and that's just In La. County and why CAN

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 1>cbs news do? That but you, know no government auditor

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<v Speaker 1>can for some, reason you, know compare you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a building in the, air then you realize what there's

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<v Speaker 1>like dozens of these rehab clinics. HERE i find that

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.640
<v Speaker 1>hard to believe because they don't. Care that's exactly. Right

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they don't. Care there's more to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Story three years, Ago california state, auditor which is surprising

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<v Speaker 2>that the state auditor would do anything At, california sounded

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm That La county had seen a fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent increase in hospice companies since twenty, ten so a dozen,

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<v Speaker 2>years fifteen times as many hospice, companies more than six

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<v Speaker 2>times the national average relative to its elderly.

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<v Speaker 1>Population, well that's like when they were grilling what's the

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<v Speaker 1>bald headed governor Of Minnesota Walls Tim walls the other

0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>day about there was a one hundred and fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>increase in a year in various kinds of autism, clinics,

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<v Speaker 1>right and, like in one, year come, On Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>journal had a big story about the autism therapy, thing

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<v Speaker 1>and how what a big chunk of medicaid fraud that. Is,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a, giant giant industry where all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>people are. Well sometimes people that don't even exist are

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<v Speaker 1>getting getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Money, yeah, yeah so the boom and autism therapy Is

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<v Speaker 2>medicaid's fastest growing. Jackpot companies have found lucrative opportunities to

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize on a growing, need billing long, hours extracting payments

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<v Speaker 2>as high as eight hundred dollars an. Hour here's this

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<v Speaker 2>cute midwestern. Gal she looks to Be the age is

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<v Speaker 2>probably in here. Somewhere there's certainly no more than forties young.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman she first launched her autism therapy business in twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen let me do some quick math for. You it's

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<v Speaker 2>like six seven years, Ago Max, Okay and she took

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<v Speaker 2>An she took aim at an unlikely source of, Profit

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<v Speaker 2>indiana's taxpayer Funded medicaid program public insurance system for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor worth noting before we even dive into, This indiana

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<v Speaker 2>has cleaned up their act a lot under their. Governor

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<v Speaker 2>they are a case study in nipping this crap in

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<v Speaker 2>the bud as opposed to Like minnesota Or. California but

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<v Speaker 2>having said, that here's what it looks like in. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she founded this thing in twenty. Nineteen in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>three the state Paid Miss mitchell's, company piece by Piece

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<v Speaker 2>Autism centers twenty nine million dollars in a year to

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<v Speaker 2>provide therapy to just eighty four. Patients that's about three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty thousand dollars per, child which surpassed What

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana medicaid typically spends in a year treating a newly

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed lung cancer patient or covering a year of twenty

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 2>four hour nursing home. Care but it all got by

0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 2>because nobody gives a crap about tax payer. Dollars reimbursements

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>were as high as six hundred and forty dollars an

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<v Speaker 2>hour for routine therapy that can be administered by workers

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<v Speaker 2>with little more than a high school. Diploma its highest

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 2>payments were more than ten times higher than the nation's,

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 2>average but nobody. Cares she just submitted these, gigantic breathtaking

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>bills and they kept getting. Paid Unbelievable mitchell said her

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<v Speaker 2>company complied With indiana's rules and the state never objected

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to her. Prices, quote and this is the WOMAN i

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<v Speaker 2>don't think In indiana really had any oversight or not,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>much Said, mitchell who bought a series of, properties including

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<v Speaker 2>a two and a half million dollar home On Florida's

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Belle island and a six hundred thousand dollars waterfront

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 2>house on The Tippecanoe river In indiana while her company's

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<v Speaker 2>medicaid billings.

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<v Speaker 1>Soared so are there little autistic kids who are actually

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<v Speaker 1>getting paired getting care and they're incredibly stressed out parents

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to deal with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Situation they don't make that. Clear the hallmark of the

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<v Speaker 2>minnesot To somali, scandal it wasn't All, somali's but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot was that the kids either didn't exist or didn't have.

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Autism there are kickbacks to the, parents that sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing this appears to be just an entrepreneur Saying i'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna follow all the, rules But i'm gonna bill them

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<v Speaker 2>just ridiculous amounts and see if they'll pay. It and

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<v Speaker 2>the answer yes they.

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<v Speaker 1>WILL i don't, KNOW i don't know Where i'd draw

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<v Speaker 1>the line on that. ONE i, mean at some point

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<v Speaker 1>you're ripping people. Off but IF i send IF i

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<v Speaker 1>send it in paperwork Says i'm now charging eight hundred dollars an,

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<v Speaker 1>hour and you just send me back a.

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<v Speaker 2>CHECK i hear, YOU i hear. You. So The Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street journal analyzed provider's payments per patient as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the overall number of hours per. Patient blah blah. Blah

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<v Speaker 2>many providers in, nationwide nationwide build a high number of

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<v Speaker 2>hours of therapy for nearly every. Patient experts said that

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<v Speaker 2>their's pe plan should be tailored to individual children's needs

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<v Speaker 2>and the numbers should. Vary but this one autism treatment

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<v Speaker 2>plant In, seattle it's a program run Through Seattle Children's,

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<v Speaker 2>hospital said she never recommends forty hours per. Week but,

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<v Speaker 2>no of course. Not now that would be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of journal analysis. Build let's see In, Indiana, Minnesota, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado Slowdown. Joe In florida, alone sixty one different autism

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<v Speaker 2>therapy companies out of about eleven, hundred build an average

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty more hours or thirty or more hours of

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<v Speaker 2>weekly therapy per child in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Three if you've ever had a kid that had do

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>any kind of. Therapy that's not the numbers you. Have

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<v Speaker 1>unless you've got a profoundly autistic or injured, Kid you're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing thirty to forty hours worth of.

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<v Speaker 2>ANYTHING i, mean it would just be. Unworkable Private equity

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<v Speaker 2>back To Action Behavior, centers one of the LARGEST us,

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<v Speaker 2>providers Build Colorado's medicaid program for some of the most

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<v Speaker 2>hours propation of any. Provider its children received an average

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of thirty three hours of therapy a, week with more

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 2>than three quarters getting full time, therapy and at least one.

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<v Speaker 2>Week action received eighteen million dollars In medicaid payments from

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<v Speaker 2>the state that.

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<v Speaker 1>Year so the problem with a lot of this is

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get people to care enough to get any

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>momentum to hold anybody to. Account nobody ever pays a

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>price for this, stuff very very few and the only,

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>way there's only one single way you can stop this

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff from, happening and it's you don't give

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<v Speaker 1>the government the money in the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Place that's the only thing you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, now how you work that out with the fact

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that there are kids with autism and they do need,

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>care and we do have a safety net that takes

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>care of them without letting it get out of. HAND

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<v Speaker 1>i don't, know but if you send them less, money

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<v Speaker 1>there's less opportunity to steal.

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<v Speaker 2>It, yeah true. Enough and if you see a seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent increase in a particular sort of expenditure in

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<v Speaker 2>a year or, two that ought to be a red. Flag,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah nobody cares about. That in a closely related, story

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of, democratics democratic politicians with the hots for

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<v Speaker 2>The White. House oh what's his? NAME a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Senators we'll go into the particulars in a, bit including

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<v Speaker 2>Old spartacus, guy let's, Say Corey. Booker their big plan

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<v Speaker 2>for quote unquote affordability is to further narrow the tax.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Pool grant no federal income tax to people who make

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<v Speaker 2>up to x thousand dollars a, year and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot higher than it is right. Now so they want

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<v Speaker 2>to get even fewer people who give a single s

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>about how tax money.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong So David, drucker friend of The armstrong In Getty,

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<v Speaker 1>Today and What joe is just talking about narrowing the tax,

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<v Speaker 1>space presuming that wealthy voters aren't going to vote with

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<v Speaker 1>their feet and re locate to avoid owner's taxes in

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>today's post pandemic society is foolish politically and as a

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>matter of public. Policy what is he responding to the

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<v Speaker 1>news That Howard schultz is Leaving. Seattle he Started starbucks,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>company he became incredibly. Rich seattle is his. Home he's

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a big, entrepreneur he's a star. There he's leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>same day that the legislature In washington passed a nine

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>point nine percent state tax on income over a million

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>dollars a. Year they currently have zero sales to or state,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>tax zero state, tax but now they're going to have

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>nine point nine percent on all income over a million

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars a. Year and the richest, GUY i don't know

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>if he's the richest guy In, seattle but he's got

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to be in the running is Saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out and he's moving To. Florida unless my math is.

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<v Speaker 2>Incorrect if you make a million dollars a, year first of, all. Congratulations,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>secondly that's one hundred thousand dollars tax increase all of a,

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>sudden if ONLY i make a million dollars a. Year,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah so, yeah above. It, yeah that's. Something that's.

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Something and, again As David drucker, said you think that

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>rich people are just gonna stick, around aw. SHUCKS i

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Guess i'll have to pay the five percent billionaire tax

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>In california or the ten percent new millionaire tax In washington,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Whoever and that people aren't gonna?

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Leave what is your thinking? THERE i could afford to

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 2>live anywhere On, earth, potologist write a check for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand or more To Washington state or.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, yeah your good. Point these people are more mobile

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<v Speaker 1>than the rest of. Us he just, bought, actually we

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>know what he, Bought. Schultz he just bought a forty

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>four million dollar pit house at the Surf club at

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<v Speaker 1>The Four Seasons Private residents In. Miami i'm looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>it and it looks pretty damn nice with a pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>View i'll bet it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, yeah but now people of his wealth can, say

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<v Speaker 1>AND i, Want i'll come back and visit ANYTIME i

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<v Speaker 1>want in a private.

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<v Speaker 2>Plane But i'm out of. Here my final note on,

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<v Speaker 2>this And i'd love to talk about this more, later

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>is the edgemacation you get in, life BECAUSE i remember

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>studying politics and political systems ages go in, college and

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and everybody approaches it as if people are, rational as

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>if voters are, rational for, instance and have reasonably good.

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<v Speaker 2>Information Just i'm going to read you a sentence from

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<v Speaker 2>a story about how the far left political parties are

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 2>surging In, europe especially among of, course young, voters and

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they highlight for a moment here The Green party In.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Britain it wants to nationalize, utilities legalize, drugs withdraw FROM,

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>nato welcome all asylum, seekers heavily tax private, landlords and

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of course they're deeply critical Of israel's military actions In.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Gaza there you, Go so you're going to tax the

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>crap out of, landlords that'll free up some, housing and

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>withdraw FROM. Nato these people are freaking, insane and yet

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 2>they're getting growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Support in emoji, News Coming up has dropped eight new,

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<v Speaker 1>emojis and as always, happens it comes with an apology

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<v Speaker 1>for one of the.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Emojis what that other stuff on the. Way So Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>i don't know how much that matters he's a pretty influential.

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<v Speaker 1>GUY i don't know how much he REPRESENTS, maga but

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>he Said trump ran on no more stupid wars and

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>now we're in.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>One so that's his. Take and AGAIN i don't know

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 2>how much OF maga that. Represents no. Idea, yeah he

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>came off as a guy who just doesn't know much

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>about the topic and is.

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0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>controversial icon that prompted apology From.

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<v Speaker 2>Apple oh, No.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never used an emoji Because i'm a grown. Up

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>but they've got eight new. Emojis how many emojis there are?

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's like a, lot, right? Hundreds eight new ones

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<v Speaker 1>that were. Approved this is the PART i. Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the Reason i'm bringing up that were approved by

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<v Speaker 1>The Unicode. Consortium oh, Okay i'd like to be involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>THAT i would be. Fun meetings you go into and

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody puts an emoji up, there and then you argue

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about whether or not it should be on the, iPhone

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you have a.

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<v Speaker 2>VOTE i would do.

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<v Speaker 1>IT a guy with a what about the one eyed

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>how are they gonna feel about?

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.640
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0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.400
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0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.080
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0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>emojis that you'll be able to use however you. Want ballet,

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>dancer you think you needed that?

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Now and then that looks like a, guy just to

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<v Speaker 1>let you. Know, oh, okay d the leotard Trombone joe'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to drop that, One. Dow and then, sorry

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<v Speaker 1>SORRY i couldn't take your.

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<v Speaker 2>CALL i was.

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably more. Used is like a sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Trombone that's What i'm guessing you would use that emoji For.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie you buy?

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<v Speaker 2>i don't know for.

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<v Speaker 1>What but and then a distorted face which is somehow,

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>controversial AND i couldn't finish the paragraph that explained why

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<v Speaker 1>because it was boring me too. MUCH i gave up

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<v Speaker 1>with the pregnant man when they released that.

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<v Speaker 2>One oh do they still have that on? There? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>yes they do. Do, yeah Because i've gone to see

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<v Speaker 2>The apple and men can't get. Pregnant well according To

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<v Speaker 2>Apple joe they. Can, well well they, can't is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing so that one got by the if you ACCIDENTALLY

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>i interrupted, you if you accidentally sent the pregnant man? Emoji,

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<v Speaker 2>katy you KNOW i.

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<v Speaker 1>HAVE i really would like to be on The Unicode.

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<v Speaker 1>Consortium let me on. There i'd love to sit around

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and argue about various emojis all day. Long sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a good. Idea and then all the different. Faces And

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<v Speaker 1>i've had to regularly do this where somebody sends me

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>an emoji And i'm, LIKE i don't know what they're

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell. Me SO i take the emoji and

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>paste it On google and say what the hell does this?

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Mean and then it explains it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me there's the pregnant, man or maybe he just drinks

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of, beer got a food, Baby.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Because like the basic faces where you got the two

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>eyes with the straight mouth or the slightly downcurved mouth

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with the downcurve mouth but the big, eyes or the

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 1>downcurve mouth with the closed, eyes or the downturned mouth

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but the eyebrows. RAISED i, mean those are all very subtle, variations, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>AND i don't know what you're trying to tell. Me

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<v Speaker 2>SEE i, do, though And katie. DOES i wonder if

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you have like some sort of deficit for that sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing maybe one, skeptical the other's mildly, disappointed and the.

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<v Speaker 2>to hold my phone out, here and you're. BLIND i

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<v Speaker 2>ain't ever tell what that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why don't you use words like we started doing

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<v Speaker 1>ABOUT i don't know a million years. Ago explain to

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<v Speaker 1>me what you were thinking about me in? Words are

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes closed or? OPEN i don't know what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh we got more in the way if you miss

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