1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong's Joe Jetty Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: and Yetty. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: This terrorist regime began forty seven years ago by literally 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: taking us hostages, and then here they are forty seven 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: years later, slaughtering their own people in the streets and 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: then holding the entire world hostage economically by threatening. 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: To close the strait. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: And of course President Trump has made it very clear 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: of the consequences if they try to do that. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: So the Iranians, that's Doug burghameas the Energy. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Secretary, Secretary of the Interior. I think he is he 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: talking about the exterior. I thought he was the energy secretary, 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: all right. 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: So Iran was going to try to mine straight of 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: horn Moves so that none of the oil ships could 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: go through there, and then we blew them, but Jesus 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: out of sixteen of their mining ships yesterday to try 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: to keep it open. But there still ain't no companies 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: wanting to send their ship through there. Their crews are 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: worried about dying, They're worried about losing their assets, their 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: boat and all the oil and everything like that they 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: can't get the insurance that they need to get from 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the big insurance companies all based out of London, which 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: has caused their economics to go nuts. So there's a 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: lot there. But then this Wall Street Journal story today 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: that Iran is exporting more than they were before the 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: war because they control it. They can send ships through 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: there because they know they're not going to bomb their 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: own ships. So they're sending more oil through the Strait 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: than they were before the war. Why are we allowing 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: that because it would be even more disruptive to the 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: oil market if we bombed their ships. 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Yes, probably, clearly. Yeah, And we don't want to start 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: a weird tit for tat where we're gonna sink you 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: if you try to sink any ships, but we're gonna 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: sink a bunch of ships ourselves. Yeah, the world economy 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: would go nuts. I think that is ironic as heck, though, 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Chris Wright is the Secretary of Energy, Okay, 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: charming fellow doing a lovely job too, in my opinion, 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it. Yeah. Doug Bergham again 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: is mostly in charge of Bison's in Indian reservations. From 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: what I understand as the Secretary of the Interior. I'm 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: not sure why he's speaking on behalf the administration, but 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I don't mind it. He's fine, fellow. 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Sure. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: So do you know who Francis Fukiyama is? Doesn't really matter. 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: He's a politicary scientist. Yeah, he made one of the 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: worst predictions in the history of mankind, and apparently he 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: has bounced back from his embarrassment in his writing again. 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: And you know, I almost hesitate to bring that up, 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: but people who recognize the name might be yelling at 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: the radio what are you quoting him for? But I 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: thought this is a pretty compelling piece. First, he's criticizing 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Donald J. For is unconditional surrender quote last week. You 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: know I would respond, Hey, Trump says stuff and then 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: he changes what he's going to do, and everything is 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: strategic ambiguity with Trump. I'm not saying that's a good thing. Well, 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: he c it would have been good if he'd communicated 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: to the American people more clearly what our purpose was here. 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: But it just is true about Trump. Oh oh, absolutely. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I think there'd be more support for the war if 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: he'd brought everybody along for the ride. But he clarified 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: either today or late yesterday what he meant by unconditional surrender, 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't sound like what you usually think when 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: you think unconditional surrender. So yeah, that's a phrase with 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: great historical weight and all. And Trump is no historian obviously. 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Do you know an FDR said it about Japan, which 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: was very controversial. It was off the top of his head. 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: He fired it off. He hadn't consulted, None of his 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: people around him knew he was going to say that, 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and they're. 74 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Like, wow, yeah, yeah. Interesting. So as much as I'd 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: like to continue to talking about that because because it's 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: important and fascinating, back to the Middle East, it seems 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: to me because he says normally a smart leader in 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: such a situation will try to lower expectations and declare 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: an achievable objective in the war, such as degrading the 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: better part of Iran's ability to targets to targets strike 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: targets with ballistic missiles and drones. This would offer an 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: opportunity for Trump to declare victory and disengage. Instead, Trump 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: did the opposite, except he won't. He will do what 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: you are suggesting anyway, and people will say, hey, he 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: changed his mind on the the the unconditional surrender thing, 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: or he didn't really mean it or whatever. I don't 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: think that's a big deal. But here's the really. 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: The problem with unconditional surrender throughout history is it really? 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really you know, a rat backed into 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: a corner fighting for its life. I mean, there's just 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: no reason to not give it every bit of fight 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you've got. If your opponent is demanding unconditional surrender, it's 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: like announcing no quarter, there will be no prisoners taken. 94 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in that case, I ain't surrendering anyway. But 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: here's where it gets more interesting. He says, the new 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: objective of unconditional surrender suddenly raised the gold posts to 97 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: an unachievable height. Again, we're not doing that. Here's the 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: good part. There are any number of reasons for Ron 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: not to capitulate in the first place. Oh, I'm sorry 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: that part is stupid too. In Iran today, well again 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: he's hung up on the unconditional surrender thing. In historical precedents, 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: he just says, stuff of Francis, give it up. It's fine, 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: I'll be gone by the end of the day. So yeah, 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about that. A second reason 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: for thinking that surrender won't happen is that it would 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: be exposed the regime to internal disintegration. Iran today is 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: being ruled by force. A large part of the population 108 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: hates the regime of the clerics that killed tens of 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: thousands of protesters in January. The IRGC and the besiege, 110 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: which is I mean, they got so many damned different 111 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: militaries and militias and stuff that besiege are kind of 112 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: internal goon squads. But there are hundreds of thousands of guys. 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: But he writes, the IROGC and the besiege will not 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: give up their weapons because they themselves would not survive. Oh, 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: they'd be torn limb from limb. A final reason for 116 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: not expecting unconditional surrender is that a good part of 117 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: the regime can survive and continue fighting for some time 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: to come. The air campaign has been extremely effective in 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: going after Iran's visible military assets air defenses, ballistic missiles, drones, 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: launch facilities, AMMO storage, military bases, and similar But the 121 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of individual fighters are still there and 122 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: will retain some residual capacity to fight back. And again 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: this is the part I find compelling. We've recently seen 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: an example of what this looks like. The nearly two 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: and a half year long war between Israel and Hamas 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: has destroyed a huge amount of infrastructure in Gaza and 127 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: is deprived Tamasa the ability to launch major attacks. But 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: they are still there, commanding some degree of popular support 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: and the remaining tunnels and shelters. They have not surrendered 130 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: and will be a big obstacle to any attempt to 131 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: rebuild guys and restore post conflict government. Gaza has a 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: much smaller territory and Israel's been willing to enter it 133 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: with ground forces. Iran, by contrast, is a very big 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: country and has lots of places for the surviving regime 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: to hide. It will not be possible to eliminate every 136 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: missile and drone under their control, so we can expect 137 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: continuing attacks on US aligned Gulf states and American facilities 138 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: into the foreseeable future. The threat of a random drone 139 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: strike hitting the big airline hubs in the Gulf will 140 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: be economically very damaging. And you got the Straits of 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: Horor Moves and the rest of it. So what quote 142 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: unquote victory looks like, is still a really really open question. 143 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you think Trump is open for? U? 144 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: What is Trump hoping for? 145 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Boy, that's a good question. 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: It would seem pretty unrealistic to hope for any kind 147 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: of moderate leader to rise up. 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how you wouldn't be alive. 149 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: With the current structure of all the different military forces 150 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: around them. 151 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Do we strike a deal with what remains the regime 152 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: and say, look, these three conditions, I can't do this, 153 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: that or the other, or the dogs come back. Yeah, 154 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: I think you can do. Agree. 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I think he'd be perfectly happy with some sort of 156 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: military dictatorship taking over that says, Okay, we ain't gonna 157 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: try to get a nuclear weapon, and we ain't gonna 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: mess with the ships in the Strait, Okay, and he'd 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: be cool, We're out. I think it's kind of interesting 160 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: that from the how much support for the war is there, 161 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: particularly among the Republican Party side. The Wall Street Journal 162 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: editorial board is got a peace out today saying don't 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: end this before you decimate them to the point that 164 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: they can't just rebuild in a couple of years. So 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: that's a Wall Street Journal editorial board. And then you've 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: got Brett Stevens, the opinion writer for the New York Times, saying, 167 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: here are the things that we need to do. Seize 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: carg Island. So that's a little island there with the 169 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Strait that really puts you in control of the Strait 170 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: of horror moves in their oil, particularly Iranian oil, is 171 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: where you'd get you'd have so much power over Iran's 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: oil there. 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: And I think it's got an enormous oil facility Utah too, 174 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: unless I'm thinking of a different way. 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: It's like the key to Iranian oil is this carg Island. 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: And Trump has been saying we should take that. Going 177 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventy nine when the whole Carter hostage 178 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: thing was going on, Donald Trump, billionaire playboy, was saying 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: we need to take carg Island. 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: So maybe that's gonna happen. 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: I heard it bandied about on some podcasts and everybody 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: thought that was just crazy in a bridge too far 183 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. But Brett Stevens in 184 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: the New York Times saying we should take carg Island. 185 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Mine's absolutely going to take Marines, I would assume, So yeah, 186 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of them, Yeah, mine or blockade Iran's remaining ports. 187 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: That's a pretty provocative thing. 188 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Destroy as much Iranian military capabilities possible over the next 189 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: week or two, including a second Midnight Hammer operation, destroy 190 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: what's left of Morand's nuclear capacity and know how, and 191 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: then threaten the gen regime with further bombing if it 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: massacres its own citizens, mounts terrorist attacks anywhere, or anything 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: like that. That's the moderate conservative Brett Stevens in the 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: New York Times sounding more warlike than Lindsey Graham in 195 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: that piece. 196 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: In the New York Times. So that's Oh, I almost 197 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: I almost forgot to bring up Pickaxe Mountain. You boys, 198 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: don't go down to pick Axe Mountain. It's got a 199 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: really old timey Western name. It's a new facility, a 200 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: nuclear facility in Iran that's buried one hundred feet hundreds 201 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: of feet underneath granite that they say is going to 202 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: be even harder to take out than the Fodoh facility 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: and would probably take footwear on the turf, if you will. 204 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: So that might be coming up too. So back to 205 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: unconditioned because to the greater point, if that facility is 206 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: entirely intact, and and the and and this all settles 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: down and then six months from now if they announced 208 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: a we got a bomb, So, I mean, that would 209 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: be waterly unacceptable. Wow, that'd be a yeah, that'd be 210 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: something back to unconditional surrender. This is what I was 211 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: talking about. 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt was asked about what unconditional surrender means in 213 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 1: the White House press room yesterday afternoon, and she said. 214 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: What the President means as because that's the way she talks. 215 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk that way when she orders 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: a pizza, that's how she talks. It's so obnoxious. I mean, 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: she's a hell of an upgrade from uh KJP or whatever. 218 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: That'sh sol stridens in her tone. 219 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: But anyways, what the President means is that when he 220 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: is Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces determines 221 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: that Iran no longer poses a threat to the United 222 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: States and the goals of Operation Epic Fury has been 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: fully realized, then Iran will essentially be in a place 224 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: of unconditional surrender, whether they say it themselves or not. 225 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: So by that whatever, by that definition, just when we 226 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: decided over they've unconditionally surrendered. 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: They will surrender under conditions that I have not yet set. 228 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: So I guess that's what it made. So yeah, that's fine. 229 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: Anybody hung up on that as a phone now, No, 230 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. The oil situation is pretty 231 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: damned interesting. 232 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Are we going to take that carg island and take 233 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Iran's oil and try to work out some sort of 234 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: deal like you get to be a military dictatorship or 235 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the Revolutionary Guard runs the country or whatever, but we 236 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: are going to control a lot of the oil. 237 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: They're going to agree to that, and you got to 238 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: agree to rename yourselves venez y Ran. I suppose if 239 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: you bomb them enough they agree with it, because I don't. 240 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're dead. 241 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: And if you're dead, really no, you know, the percentages 242 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: of oil you get don't matter that much. 243 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: When you're dead. All you got is an indeterminate number 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: of virgins. And that's kind of it. Yeah, you know, I. 245 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Kind of liked the fact that Kobe Bryant had the 246 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: second highest score in NBA history, but some guy passed 247 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: him last night with eighty three points. Interesting stats about 248 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: that you're a sports fan at all, and a whole 249 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. 250 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: Stay here, Armstrong. 251 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Eighty three points, the second highest scoring game in NBA history. 252 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: He didn't come out of the game and here from 253 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: the tide and we see we went home. 254 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: It just became a domino effect from there. My teammates 255 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: was feeding and I was making shots. And then once 256 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: I got to seventy, I was like, well as well, 257 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: see how far you can get at this point, and 258 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: ended up eighty three once. 259 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: You got to seventy. 260 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: So this gam bam ad a bio who I'd never 261 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: even heard of before. And I'm a kind of an 262 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: NBA fan, but he's not a household name like wil 263 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Chamberlain and Kobe Bryant obviously, who have the will if 264 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: you if you're a fan of the NBA at all 265 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: the low everyone knows the Lord the Wilt Chammerans scored 266 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: one hundred points in a game, which it's just a 267 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: stunning number. It was not a televised game, so nobody's 268 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: ever seen any highlights of it. Then Kolbe, toward the 269 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: end of his career, scored eighty two once and that 270 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: was the secondhest. This guy last night for the Miami 271 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Heat scores eighty three points. Miami wins one fifty one 272 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: twenty nine. It's a high scoring name. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am, 273 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: bam at a bio. He's the center slash power forward six', 274 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: nine twenty eight year. Old and here's the couple of 275 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: the interesting stats if you're a fan of THE nba at. 276 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: All first of, all he shot about fifty percent for 277 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: the field and thirty percent from three point, land which 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: are both good numbers and put out lots and lots of. 279 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Shots but when a guy is hitting like, that you 280 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: start following him Right, well that's the. Problem so even 281 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: though he's placed, center and usually centers can't shoot free 282 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: throws for, crap he made thirty six of forty three 283 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: free throw a. Time forty three times he went to 284 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the line and he made thirty six of. 285 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Them. 286 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: Wow so if a guy's on fire from the free from, 287 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: line it doesn't god do any good to follow him 288 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: because the clock is stopped and your scoring points is 289 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: how thirty. 290 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: Six from the, line forty seven from the field shooting Fifty. 291 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Wow, anyway those are some stunning, numbers and the team 292 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: went just berzircle at the. End they were so excited 293 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: to get, him you, know the second all time highest, 294 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: SCORE i Mean champagne and everybody really enjoyed, it so 295 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not like The i've always really liked the 296 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: bit From Adam. Sandler that was one of his first 297 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: bits that got him On Johnny. Carson we back in 298 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: the day about When Wilt chamberlain scored a hundred points 299 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: and he's in the team. Huddles, first the team huddle 300 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: for the other, Team, hey who's Got? Wilt he's, Hot 301 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: and then the team huddle For wilt one of the other, Players, Hey, 302 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Wilt i'm hoping my parents are. 303 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Here could you a hundred? 304 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Points, Yeah but the teammates for this guy were not, like, 305 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Hey i'm, Hey i'm. Open they were like getting him 306 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: the balls much as they could see if they could 307 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: get him the. 308 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Record, yeah, yeah what if fans it was probably? Fun oh, 309 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: yeah oh, yeah that'd be a. Hoot what team does 310 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: he play, For Miami? Heat are they in a playoff? 311 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: RUN i assume they? Are, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah that 312 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: had to be super exciting and. Fun on the same, 313 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: night THE us lost To italy in The World Baseball. Classic, Italy, 314 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: yeah Unless DiMaggio is still, playing that's. Outrageous italy has 315 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: some major, leaguers, definitely but they're like you're you haven't 316 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: heard of them unless you're a big Fan major. Leaguers 317 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: where we The United states are fielding an all star 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: team of some of the biggest names in all of the. 319 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: World and we were down eight nothing to The italians 320 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: last night and ended up losing and might not be 321 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: we might be out of the tournament depending on How 322 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: mexico does. Today, well that's why they, play you, know 323 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: a seven game, series and they play one hundred and 324 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: sixty two games because the nature of the game of, 325 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: baseball a less our team can beat a better especially 326 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: with a hot. Pitcher because, right. Exactly, yeah, yeah so 327 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: that's too, bad, though national humiliation during this time of 328 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: war would not be. 329 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Good, yeah not good for ratings, either to lose THE 330 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: us Because i'm sure they were looking forward to THE 331 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Us japan matchup. Eventually, okay we'll get into some of 332 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the news on the way if you missed the Sec 333 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: megets Podcast armstrong And. 334 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: Getty and, finally a mail enhancement supplement called Rhino choco 335 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: vip ten x has been recalled because it contains the 336 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: active ingredient found in the erecta of dysfunction Drug. 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Market soo big 346 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: release of reserve oil during the uranium. 347 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: War which Helps trump out in the war. EFFORT i 348 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: think Hurts, russia which is. Good so there you. Go, yeah, 349 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: YEAH i don't recall a major news story that had 350 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: so many possible. OUTCOMES i, mean like the thing With 351 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: ukraine And. RUSSIA i can come up with like three, 352 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: probably but this has half a dozen of possible outcomes 353 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: ANYWAY i want it to. 354 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: COME i can make a transition from that to what 355 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: we're about to talk about in That i'm a little 356 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: tired of hearing the constant chatter of how expensive this war. 357 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Is for, instance one of the big talking points of 358 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours was the initial days cost 359 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: five billion. Dollars, really all of a, sudden five billion, 360 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: dollars gets your. Attention nine billion dollars of taxpayer money 361 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: stolen In minnesota. Alone, yeah wasn't of any interest to 362 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: you in a, time skull. Hawk now are you. 363 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: In a tiny? State? 364 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: Eight, yes but five billion of the immense defense. Budget 365 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: get to your attention and that's like a headline for. You, okay, 366 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: Whatever speaking of wasted. MONEY Cbs Evening news last night 367 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: with a big story about all the fraud that's going 368 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: on in another different. 369 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: Area here we. 370 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 6: Go sixty nine year old Doctor Lynn ioni, was according 371 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 6: To medicare, records dying in hospice care two years, ago 372 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: something she discovered when she sought physical therapy for a pickleball. 373 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: Injury AND i said. 374 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: What Ioni's medicare number had been stolen and used by 375 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 6: a company to enroll her in hospice. CARE A Cbs 376 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 6: news investigation found an industry ripe for, fraud especially In. 377 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 6: California companies accused of overbilling real patients denied care and 378 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 6: it's costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer. DOLLARS Cbs news 379 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 6: analyzed every hospice licensed In La, county more than seventeen, 380 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 6: hundred and checked for the same warning signs the state 381 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 6: used in an audit of the, industry like multiple hospices 382 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 6: packed into one, building or caregivers whose patients suppose the 383 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 6: death store are discharged. 384 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: Alive and that's just In La. County and why CAN 385 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: cbs news do? That but you, know no government auditor 386 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: can for some, reason you, know compare you look at 387 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: a building in the, air then you realize what there's 388 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: like dozens of these rehab clinics. HERE i find that 389 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: hard to believe because they don't. Care that's exactly. Right 390 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: that's why they don't. Care there's more to this. 391 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: Story three years, Ago california state, auditor which is surprising 392 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: that the state auditor would do anything At, california sounded 393 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: the alarm That La county had seen a fifteen hundred 394 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: percent increase in hospice companies since twenty, ten so a dozen, 395 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: years fifteen times as many hospice, companies more than six 396 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: times the national average relative to its elderly. 397 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Population, well that's like when they were grilling what's the 398 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: bald headed governor Of Minnesota Walls Tim walls the other 399 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: day about there was a one hundred and fifty percent 400 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: increase in a year in various kinds of autism, clinics, 401 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: right and, like in one, year come, On Wall Street 402 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: journal had a big story about the autism therapy, thing 403 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: and how what a big chunk of medicaid fraud that. Is, 404 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: like it's a, giant giant industry where all kinds of 405 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: people are. Well sometimes people that don't even exist are 406 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: getting getting. 407 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: Money, yeah, yeah so the boom and autism therapy Is 408 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: medicaid's fastest growing. Jackpot companies have found lucrative opportunities to 409 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: capitalize on a growing, need billing long, hours extracting payments 410 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: as high as eight hundred dollars an. Hour here's this 411 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: cute midwestern. Gal she looks to Be the age is 412 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: probably in here. Somewhere there's certainly no more than forties young. 413 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: Woman she first launched her autism therapy business in twenty. 414 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Nineteen let me do some quick math for. You it's 415 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: like six seven years, Ago Max, Okay and she took 416 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: An she took aim at an unlikely source of, Profit 417 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: indiana's taxpayer Funded medicaid program public insurance system for the. 418 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Poor worth noting before we even dive into, This indiana 419 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: has cleaned up their act a lot under their. Governor 420 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: they are a case study in nipping this crap in 421 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: the bud as opposed to Like minnesota Or. California but 422 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: having said, that here's what it looks like in. Now 423 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: she founded this thing in twenty. Nineteen in twenty twenty, 424 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: three the state Paid Miss mitchell's, company piece by Piece 425 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Autism centers twenty nine million dollars in a year to 426 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: provide therapy to just eighty four. Patients that's about three 427 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand dollars per, child which surpassed What 428 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: Indiana medicaid typically spends in a year treating a newly 429 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: diagnosed lung cancer patient or covering a year of twenty 430 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: four hour nursing home. Care but it all got by 431 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: because nobody gives a crap about tax payer. Dollars reimbursements 432 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: were as high as six hundred and forty dollars an 433 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: hour for routine therapy that can be administered by workers 434 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: with little more than a high school. Diploma its highest 435 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: payments were more than ten times higher than the nation's, 436 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: average but nobody. Cares she just submitted these, gigantic breathtaking 437 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: bills and they kept getting. Paid Unbelievable mitchell said her 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: company complied With indiana's rules and the state never objected 439 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: to her. Prices, quote and this is the WOMAN i 440 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: don't think In indiana really had any oversight or not, 441 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: much Said, mitchell who bought a series of, properties including 442 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: a two and a half million dollar home On Florida's 443 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: Santa Belle island and a six hundred thousand dollars waterfront 444 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: house on The Tippecanoe river In indiana while her company's 445 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: medicaid billings. 446 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Soared so are there little autistic kids who are actually 447 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: getting paired getting care and they're incredibly stressed out parents 448 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to deal with the. 449 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: Situation they don't make that. Clear the hallmark of the 450 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: minnesot To somali, scandal it wasn't All, somali's but a 451 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: lot was that the kids either didn't exist or didn't have. 452 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Autism there are kickbacks to the, parents that sort of. 453 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: Thing this appears to be just an entrepreneur Saying i'm 454 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: gonna follow all the, rules But i'm gonna bill them 455 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: just ridiculous amounts and see if they'll pay. It and 456 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: the answer yes they. 457 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: WILL i don't, KNOW i don't know Where i'd draw 458 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: the line on that. ONE i, mean at some point 459 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: you're ripping people. Off but IF i send IF i 460 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: send it in paperwork Says i'm now charging eight hundred dollars an, 461 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: hour and you just send me back a. 462 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 2: CHECK i hear, YOU i hear. You. So The Wall 463 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: Street journal analyzed provider's payments per patient as well as 464 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: the overall number of hours per. Patient blah blah. Blah 465 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: many providers in, nationwide nationwide build a high number of 466 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: hours of therapy for nearly every. Patient experts said that 467 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: their's pe plan should be tailored to individual children's needs 468 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: and the numbers should. Vary but this one autism treatment 469 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: plant In, seattle it's a program run Through Seattle Children's, 470 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: hospital said she never recommends forty hours per. Week but, 471 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: no of course. Not now that would be a lot 472 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: of journal analysis. Build let's see In, Indiana, Minnesota, Colorado, 473 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: Colorado Slowdown. Joe In florida, alone sixty one different autism 474 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: therapy companies out of about eleven, hundred build an average 475 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: of thirty more hours or thirty or more hours of 476 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: weekly therapy per child in twenty twenty. 477 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Three if you've ever had a kid that had do 478 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: any kind of. Therapy that's not the numbers you. Have 479 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: unless you've got a profoundly autistic or injured, Kid you're 480 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: not doing thirty to forty hours worth of. 481 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: ANYTHING i, mean it would just be. Unworkable Private equity 482 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: back To Action Behavior, centers one of the LARGEST us, 483 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: providers Build Colorado's medicaid program for some of the most 484 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: hours propation of any. Provider its children received an average 485 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: of thirty three hours of therapy a, week with more 486 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: than three quarters getting full time, therapy and at least one. 487 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: Week action received eighteen million dollars In medicaid payments from 488 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: the state that. 489 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Year so the problem with a lot of this is 490 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: you can't get people to care enough to get any 491 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: momentum to hold anybody to. Account nobody ever pays a 492 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: price for this, stuff very very few and the only, 493 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: way there's only one single way you can stop this 494 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: sort of stuff from, happening and it's you don't give 495 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: the government the money in the first. 496 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: Place that's the only thing you can. 497 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Do, now how you work that out with the fact 498 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: that there are kids with autism and they do need, 499 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: care and we do have a safety net that takes 500 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: care of them without letting it get out of. HAND 501 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: i don't, know but if you send them less, money 502 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: there's less opportunity to steal. 503 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: It, yeah true. Enough and if you see a seven 504 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: hundred percent increase in a particular sort of expenditure in 505 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: a year or, two that ought to be a red. Flag, 506 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: yeah nobody cares about. That in a closely related, story 507 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: a couple of, democratics democratic politicians with the hots for 508 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: The White. House oh what's his? NAME a couple of. 509 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: Senators we'll go into the particulars in a, bit including 510 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: Old spartacus, guy let's, Say Corey. Booker their big plan 511 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: for quote unquote affordability is to further narrow the tax. 512 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: Pool grant no federal income tax to people who make 513 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: up to x thousand dollars a, year and it's a 514 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: lot higher than it is right. Now so they want 515 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: to get even fewer people who give a single s 516 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: about how tax money. 517 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: Spent, well we've got the tax we've got the tax 518 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: story of the day for the crowd that likes that 519 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: sort of. 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Seattle he Started starbucks, 547 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: company he became incredibly. Rich seattle is his. Home he's 548 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: a big, entrepreneur he's a star. There he's leaving the 549 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: same day that the legislature In washington passed a nine 550 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: point nine percent state tax on income over a million 551 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: dollars a. Year they currently have zero sales to or state, 552 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: tax zero state, tax but now they're going to have 553 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent on all income over a million 554 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: dollars a. Year and the richest, GUY i don't know 555 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: if he's the richest guy In, seattle but he's got 556 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to be in the running is Saying. 557 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: I'm out and he's moving To. Florida unless my math is. 558 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: Incorrect if you make a million dollars a, year first of, all. Congratulations, 559 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: secondly that's one hundred thousand dollars tax increase all of a, 560 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: sudden if ONLY i make a million dollars a. Year, 561 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: yeah so, yeah above. It, yeah that's. Something that's. 562 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Something and, again As David drucker, said you think that 563 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: rich people are just gonna stick, around aw. SHUCKS i 564 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Guess i'll have to pay the five percent billionaire tax 565 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: In california or the ten percent new millionaire tax In washington, 566 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Whoever and that people aren't gonna? 567 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: Leave what is your thinking? THERE i could afford to 568 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: live anywhere On, earth, potologist write a check for one 569 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: hundred thousand or more To Washington state or. 570 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Think, yeah your good. Point these people are more mobile 571 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: than the rest of. Us he just, bought, actually we 572 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: know what he, Bought. Schultz he just bought a forty 573 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: four million dollar pit house at the Surf club at 574 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: The Four Seasons Private residents In. Miami i'm looking at, 575 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: it and it looks pretty damn nice with a pretty cool. 576 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 2: View i'll bet it. 577 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: Is, yeah but now people of his wealth can, say 578 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: AND i, Want i'll come back and visit ANYTIME i 579 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: want in a private. 580 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: Plane But i'm out of. Here my final note on, 581 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: this And i'd love to talk about this more, later 582 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: is the edgemacation you get in, life BECAUSE i remember 583 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: studying politics and political systems ages go in, college and 584 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: and everybody approaches it as if people are, rational as 585 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: if voters are, rational for, instance and have reasonably good. 586 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Information Just i'm going to read you a sentence from 587 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: a story about how the far left political parties are 588 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: surging In, europe especially among of, course young, voters and 589 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: they highlight for a moment here The Green party In. 590 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: Britain it wants to nationalize, utilities legalize, drugs withdraw FROM, 591 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: nato welcome all asylum, seekers heavily tax private, landlords and 592 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: of course they're deeply critical Of israel's military actions In. 593 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: Gaza there you, Go so you're going to tax the 594 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: crap out of, landlords that'll free up some, housing and 595 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: withdraw FROM. Nato these people are freaking, insane and yet 596 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: they're getting growing. 597 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: Support in emoji, News Coming up has dropped eight new, 598 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: emojis and as always, happens it comes with an apology 599 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: for one of the. 600 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: Emojis what that other stuff on the. Way So Joe. 601 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Rogan came out pretty hard against the Warn iran. YESTERDAY 602 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: i don't know how much that matters he's a pretty influential. 603 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: GUY i don't know how much he REPRESENTS, maga but 604 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: he Said trump ran on no more stupid wars and 605 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: now we're in. 606 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: One so that's his. Take and AGAIN i don't know 607 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: how much OF maga that. Represents no. Idea, yeah he 608 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: came off as a guy who just doesn't know much 609 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: about the topic and is. 610 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Mystified eight new emojis just dropped From, apple including one 611 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: controversial icon that prompted apology From. 612 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: Apple oh, No. 613 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: I've never used an emoji Because i'm a grown. Up 614 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: but they've got eight new. Emojis how many emojis there are? 615 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Now there's like a, lot, right? Hundreds eight new ones 616 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: that were. Approved this is the PART i. Like this 617 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: is the Reason i'm bringing up that were approved by 618 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: The Unicode. Consortium oh, Okay i'd like to be involved in. 619 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: THAT i would be. Fun meetings you go into and 620 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: somebody puts an emoji up, there and then you argue 621 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: about whether or not it should be on the, iPhone 622 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and then you have a. 623 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: VOTE i would do. 624 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: IT a guy with a what about the one eyed 625 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: how are they gonna feel about? 626 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: This you? Know and that sort of. Thing what about seafaring. 627 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: Marauders they don't. Like it's a, culture not a, costume, 628 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: right that sort of. Thing so here are your new 629 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: emojis that you'll be able to use however you. Want ballet, 630 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: dancer you think you needed that? 631 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Now and then that looks like a, guy just to 632 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: let you. Know, oh, okay d the leotard Trombone joe'll 633 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: be able to drop that, One. Dow and then, sorry 634 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: SORRY i couldn't take your. 635 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: CALL i was. 636 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: Busy and then you got your trombone. EMOJI i think 637 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: it's probably more. Used is like a sad. 638 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: Trombone that's What i'm guessing you would use that emoji For. 639 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: Katie you buy? 640 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: That, yeah, sure treasure, chest fight cloud kind of like 641 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: looks like from the Old Looney tunes when they get 642 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: in a. Fight it's just like whoa, okay dust flying 643 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: orc of the, whale a, Landslide harry creature look Like 644 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Harry creature looks to Be. 645 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: Bigfoot IF i used, EMOJIS i might use that. ONE 646 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: i don't know for. 647 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: What but and then a distorted face which is somehow, 648 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: controversial AND i couldn't finish the paragraph that explained why 649 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: because it was boring me too. MUCH i gave up 650 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: with the pregnant man when they released that. 651 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 2: One oh do they still have that on? There? Oh 652 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: yes they do. Do, yeah Because i've gone to see 653 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: The apple and men can't get. Pregnant well according To 654 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: Apple joe they. Can, well well they, can't is the. 655 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: Thing so that one got by the if you ACCIDENTALLY 656 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: i interrupted, you if you accidentally sent the pregnant man? Emoji, 657 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: katy you KNOW i. 658 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: HAVE i really would like to be on The Unicode. 659 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Consortium let me on. There i'd love to sit around 660 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: and argue about various emojis all day. Long sounds like 661 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: a good. Idea and then all the different. Faces And 662 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: i've had to regularly do this where somebody sends me 663 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: an emoji And i'm, LIKE i don't know what they're 664 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: trying to tell. Me SO i take the emoji and 665 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: paste it On google and say what the hell does this? 666 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: Mean and then it explains it to. 667 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: Me there's the pregnant, man or maybe he just drinks 668 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: a lot of, beer got a food, Baby. 669 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Because like the basic faces where you got the two 670 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: eyes with the straight mouth or the slightly downcurved mouth 671 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: with the downcurve mouth but the big, eyes or the 672 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: downcurve mouth with the closed, eyes or the downturned mouth 673 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: but the eyebrows. RAISED i, mean those are all very subtle, variations, Right. 674 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: AND i don't know what you're trying to tell. Me 675 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: SEE i, do, though And katie. DOES i wonder if 676 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: you have like some sort of deficit for that sort of. 677 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: Thing maybe one, skeptical the other's mildly, disappointed and the. 678 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: Others you, KNOW i don't remember the list you just. Right, 679 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: well they're so SMALL i can barely see him anyway 680 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: to hold my phone out, here and you're. BLIND i 681 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: ain't ever tell what that. 682 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Is why don't you use words like we started doing 683 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: ABOUT i don't know a million years. Ago explain to 684 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: me what you were thinking about me in? 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