1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: We are still hearing stories about kids and people with 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: disabilities being excluded. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: We need to change that. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: What's going on? Everyone? Emily A body here. 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 4: You are listening to a special episode, episode three hundred 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 4: and seventeen of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: talk to inspirational people about everything from their highest highs 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: and toughest moments to essential tips on how to live 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We all go through 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: our fair share of hurdles. My goal through these discussions 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 4: is to empower you to better navigate yours and move 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: with intention so that you can stride towards your own 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: big potential and of course have some fun along the way. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: I said this is a special episode. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: And I mean it. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: I am bringing a conversation I had the opportunity to 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: have last week in Paris to the feed, and that 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: is with the ever lovely Sarah Reynerdson. You may follow 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: her over on Instagram over at her account at always Try. 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: She's a paralympian. She's also the first female amputee to 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 4: finish the World iron Man Championships in Kona. And what 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: is so inspirational about this story is that not only 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 4: was she the first female amputee to do so, but 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: she did it on her second try. She went to 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: Kona in two thousand and four, didn't make the cutoff 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 4: for the bike, which she tells us this story today, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: and then had the tenacity, audacity, and strength and courage 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: and will to persevere show up again in two thousand 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: and five and crush that race. 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: I am so inspired by Sarah. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: Like I said, we had the opportunity to connect last 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: week during the Paralympics. We were both at Nike's headquarters 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: there to talk about a new initiative that they have 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: upcoming that is called Game On. So basically what Game 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: On is, I'll break it down. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: It is a. 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: One year career program that is supported by the US 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Olympic and Paralympic Committees, and the goal of this program 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: is to increase awareness and underscore the importance of disability inclusion. 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: Those selected for hire through the program will be entitled 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: to employment benefits provided by Nike as well as relocation assistants, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: and they'll have the opportunity to get a ton of 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: hands on experience right at Nike's global headquarters in Beaverton, Oregon. 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: Now I'm going to link the details of this program 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: in the show notes so that you can hear more. 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: But to apply and applications open tomorrow September twelve. 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: You can head right. 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: On over to jobs dot Nike dot com slash Disability 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: Dash Inclusion Again. 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to link this in the show notes. 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, I could have talked to Sarah absolutely forever. She 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: is such an inspirational individual and we didn't even touch 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: on the fact that she also participated in the amazing 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: race but another story for another time. This woman has 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: the motivation that you need for your midweek pick me up, 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: and even in the teeny amount of time that we had, 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: I knew that I needed. 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: To share her with all of you. Make sure you're 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: following along with Hurdle. 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: Over on social It's at Hurdle podcast. I am over 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: at Emily a Body and with that, let's get to it. 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Let's get to hurdling. Today, I am sitting down with 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: Sarah Reinertson. She is not only in sports marketing at Nike, 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: but she is also the first woman female amputee to 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: complete the Ironman World Championships in Kona. 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: How are we doing today? 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: Do an excellent great to be here. 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: It's so great to be here. I feel like we 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: have had a whirlwind of a week. We are currently 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: finishing things up here in Paris and celebrating both the 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: announcement of Nike's Game On program, but also the Paralympics, 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: which is something you yourself are well familiar with as 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: a Paralympian yourself. 74 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I went to the Paralympics in Barcelona so 75 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: many years ago, but have been super active in the 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: sports community, and I have some athletes here competing, So 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be here in Paris and celebrate 78 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: part of it with you. 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: And when you say you have some athletes here competing, yes, 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: elaborate so they understand completely. 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: So I work for Nike Sports Marketing and so we 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: are the team that signs athletes for Nike, and so 84 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: I have several Paralympians that are Nike signed and contracted 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and it's been a thrill to get to watch them 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: compete and several a couple of them on the podium. 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: But there's still more events to come, so I'm excited 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: to see them continue to shine here at the Paris 89 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Paralympic Games. 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: Sarah, did you want to have a career in sports marketing. 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: Was this something that always enticed you or was it 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: a more natural segue after your athletic pursuits. 93 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I ever thought in 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: my head like, oh, sports marketing was it. I just 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be in the arena of sports. 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to be connected to sport. I loved the 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: idea of wearing sneakers to work every day, and sports 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: marketing kind of evolved. I started at Nike in the 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: innovation team, and so that was sort of my first entryway, 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: and I'm super passionate about product creation and footwear innovation 101 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: and all the work that we do there. But this 102 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: was like the natural progression to also help lead Nike 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: in the Olympic and Paralympic space. 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: In the Olympic and Paralympic space, it's so cool, and 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: I candidly think that it's a job that so many seek, right. 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: It's such a sought after opportunity, not only as an 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: athlete yourself, to have this opportunity to give back to 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 4: sport but still be so immersed in it. 109 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: It's so special. 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm you know, it's you also have so 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: much historic knowledge about the space, about the athletes, about 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: and I think you know, I love the Paralympics, but 113 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: for a new viewer sometimes it can be a lot 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: to figure out with all the classifications on all the 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: different disabilities, and a lot of the sports have a 116 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: lot of parallels, but the rules might be slightly different, 117 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, so tennis or basketball still very similar. But 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: then you also have sports that are unique to the Paralympics, 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: like goldball. So you know, being having grown up in it, 120 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: I have a deep understanding of it, and it's been 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: exciting to see part of the growth and to see 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the world catch up to I mean. 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: Look, the Paralympics is the third largest. 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Sporting event in the world, and I love that we're 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: getting this chance here in Paris. 126 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, Emily, I'm. 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Already thinking about la I'm already, like my brain's already 128 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: in Milan. And then the big show is going to 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: come to the United States in four very short years. 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: Four very short years. Now. 131 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: You mentioned the concept of classifications, which leads me to 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: want to talk about what yours was. Tell us a 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: little bit about your experience as paralympian and also your disability. 134 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I am what would be called a T 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: sixty three, which basically means an above the knee amputation. 136 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: So in the track, when you look at the T 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: sixty three category, that is an above the knee amputation. 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: And then they also classify the below the knee amputations differently, 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: or an arm amputee, or if you have cerebral palsy, 140 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: that's a different classification. And so they really call out 141 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the differences because there is a very big difference if 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you have your knee. I mean you can just think 143 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: about when you go upstairs, you have that drive. I 144 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: don't have that on my left side. So it is 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: a significant difference between an athlete that does have a 146 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: below the knee amputation. And so that's where they have 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: those classifications. That's at a high level, I mean it 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: really deep in it. But that's a basic explanation of 149 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: how it all works. 150 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: Right, And you were born with a bone growth disorder, 151 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: talk to us a little bit about how that impacted 152 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: you from a young age. 153 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Sure, So, I was born with a condition called proximalphemeral 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: focal deficiency. I was born in New York. I was 155 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: diagnosed at NYU Hospital. It basically means I didn't have 156 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the tissues to stimulate the right growth, and so we 157 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: actually help my parents and I at the age of seven, 158 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: so it was probably more my parents, but you know, 159 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: we trusted the doctors and medical recommendations that I should 160 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,479 Speaker 1: consider amputation, and so I had my left leg amputated 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: when I was seven years old. 162 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: But I am a. 163 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: Person that has experienced disability throughout my life. You know, 164 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: I think disability is something that can occur at any time. 165 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes we say that you are temporarily able bodied because 166 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: you never know if you have a stroke or an injury. 167 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: You might join the club too, or you just age 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: into it. 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: But I was born with my disabilit and the experience 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: that I had through my life as a young girl 171 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: with a disability, especially in the area of sport, wasn't 172 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: actually always so positive. There's a story that I often tell, 173 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: not because I want to make the soccer coach feel bad, 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: but I hear similar stories today. But when I was 175 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: a kid growing up, my mom signed me up to 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: be in the town soccer league, just like my sibling, 177 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: and when I went to practice, the coach wouldn't let 178 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: me play with the other kids, and he would give 179 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: me a soccer ball, and I was forced to go 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: kick the ball against the wall of the school by myself. 181 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that really had a profound 182 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: effect on me. And you know, I think some people 183 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: would say, Okay, I'm not meant to be in that place, 184 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: but I think because of my parents and maybe being 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: a New Yorker, I don't know. I just thought, you know, 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way, and I want 187 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: to play just like every other kid. And so this 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: also is where my passion for sport is grounded in, 189 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: where my passion for innovation is grounded in, because I 190 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: want to continue to open up opportunities for others, whether 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that's through footwear, whether that's through opportunities, whether that's through 192 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: our partnerships with nonprofits that help serve and fill that gap. 193 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Because we are still hearing stories about kids and people 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 1: with disabilities being excluded. 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: We need to change that. 196 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: I will double click shortly on the concept of innovation, 197 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: especially the new innovation that has come onto the scene 198 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: since you were competing at the Paralympics. But first and foremost, 199 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: I do want to say thank you for sharing your 200 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: story and for your vulnerability. I can't even imagine what 201 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: it had to be like to be othered at such 202 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: a young age. 203 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's where it's like it happens 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: to so many. I think that it's a common experience. 205 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: It's not something that I own on my own. But 206 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: that's also where we can be more powerful together to 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of shift that mindset. I'm also just thankful that 208 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I had a very strong background to help me choose 209 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the other choice instead of staying on the sidelines. It 210 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: like put the fire in my belly to be like, 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I am not going to be excluded. Yeah, 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: in fact, I'm going to prove to you and show 213 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: you what I can do. And I wanted to surprise people. 214 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you joked a little bit about that being a 215 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: New Yorker. 216 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: Do you think that was an example that was provided 217 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: for you, that audacity from your parents or do you 218 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: think where do you think that came from? 219 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, my parents are immigrants. My mom immigrated 220 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: from Norway and moved to Brooklyn and had to learn 221 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: learn a new language and figure it out. So, you know, 222 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I think anyone who like you know my grandparents, they 223 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: had two kids, They had two kids in tow and 224 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: they immigrated to another country when they were my age now, 225 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: And I just think that takes a lot of tenacity 226 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: to like leave your entire family behind and get on 227 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: a boat and go to another country where you don't 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: know the language. So I think, you know, that that 229 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: kind of chutzpah, that tenacity, that that drive, that was 230 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: definitely part of my family's sort of m o, you know, 231 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: and that was instilled in me. And I'm grateful for that. 232 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: And I think also coming from New York, it's just like, look, 233 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: the sidewalks, the streets, the people. 234 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: It's not no one's gonna stop for you. 235 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: So you either, like you know, figure out how to 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: keep up or Yeah. 237 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: So I love that. 238 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I love that I was raised there, and I think 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: it's I still identify as a New Yorker even though 240 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't live there, because I love that the hustle 241 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: that that place teaches you. 242 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: It's one thing to persevere and continue on with sport. 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: It's another thing to take it to the level that 244 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: you ultimately took it. 245 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: To talk to us. 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: About when you started to view your relationship with sport 247 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: in such a way that you wanted to put everything 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: you had into it. 249 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think for me, well, you know, 250 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: sport really did become my full full time thing. Actually 251 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: until I had finished my masters, I also had a 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: job working sort of in the sport space and then 253 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: media space. Actually, but I met it was probably after, 254 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: honestly September eleventh that it started to really become a 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: focus for me, because I started to think, you know, 256 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: when sometimes when things happen in your life or and 257 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: it happened to the world, it made you really reevaluate 258 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: how much time you have on this blue marble. And 259 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: if you want to make a dream or something happen, like, 260 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: you got to start today. And even if it doesn't 261 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: happen overnight, if it's a big audacious goal, you have 262 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to use every day, even if it's that incremental like 263 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: success to get there. 264 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: It's like all those little goals. 265 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: But it was truly after September eleventh that I was like, 266 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: you know what I want to do an iron man, Like, 267 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: why don't I just like buy a bike. I don't 268 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: know how to ride it, but I'll figure it out. 269 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I was not brave enough to bring the bike onto 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: the streets of Brooklyn, so I got a bike trainer 271 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: and I trained my bike a trainer, like in my 272 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: apartment going nowhere. But yeah, no, I was building my 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: bike legs and building my strength, and so that was 274 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: really you know, I think. 275 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: If people have those, but you have to just start. 276 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: And sometimes those tragedies are that ignite, you know, that 277 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: ignition moment. 278 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: Anyways, Yeah, you know what I'm hearing you say, or 279 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: there's a why, there's a way. 280 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: You had such a strong why. 281 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: It is not the most enjoyable thing to sit inside 282 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: on a bike trainer, like I don't need to tell you, 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: I know that, you know, but you had a strong 284 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: conviction that this was something that you wanted to do 285 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: and that's so special. So that conviction then eventually it 286 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: took you off the trainer and out into the streets. 287 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: Yes it did. 288 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I actually ended up moving out to California and started 289 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: riding my bike on the roads. Did my very first triathlon, 290 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: which was a sprint try. You know, it's a lot 291 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: shorter than an iron Man, But as soon as I 292 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: did that, I was like, Okay, I've got one part 293 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: of that iron Man done. I had done several marathons. 294 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: That was actually probably the first. You know, gateway is 295 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: once you you know, I had accomplished that distance too, 296 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: so then it was just putting the other pieces together 297 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: of the longer bike and the longer swim. 298 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: And California was a great place to do that. 299 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: They have bike lanes outside and swimming pools outside. But yeah, 300 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I just kept going, And you know, I did my 301 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: first attempt at the Iron Man in two thousand and four, 302 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and so that's when I really kind of got finally 303 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: got to Kona and dove into the ocean and gave 304 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: it my best shot. 305 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it didn't go as you had hoped. Talk 306 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: to me about how you navigated that hurdle. 307 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the first time I went to the 308 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Hawaii Iron Man, I missed the bike cut off by 309 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and it was heartbreaking. We had a super 310 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: windy year. Winds hit like sixty five miles an hour. 311 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I was getting blown all over the Queen k and 312 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: I peddled my little heart out. And when I crossed 313 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: the line, I mean I had a bike, computer and 314 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: a watch, and I knew that, like, yeah. 315 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: My day was over. And I came rolling in and. 316 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I knew I had failed, and I didn't want to 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: be treated any different, Like the rules were the same 318 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: for everybody didn't matter if I had a disability. I 319 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to compete within the rules of 320 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: play for that sport. But I missed the cutoff, and 321 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot of tears and a lot of 322 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, being upset. And but I went back to 323 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: the finish line that night, because you know, it is 324 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: a race that goes into the wee hours of the night. 325 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: And I came back with my family and I just 326 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: watched that finish line and I just vowed to myself that, 327 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: like I was going to take care of unfinished business, 328 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: that I would be back to Kona maybe the next 329 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: year or sometime in the future. And I was gonna 330 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna get it done. 331 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: But there's that tenacity again, Right. It's not something that 332 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: you it's a muscle that you strengthen, but it's one 333 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: that sticks with you. 334 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: Right. And so you were putting in the reps. 335 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: You knew that you wanted to be back there in ConA, 336 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: and that is exactly what you did. So when you 337 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: return uh to the other side of that finish line 338 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: then next year, explain the feelings to me. 339 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I went back. 340 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and look, when you fail, sometimes you have 341 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: to change your plan or change your equipment, as the 342 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: case may be. So I got a new coach, I 343 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: got a new bike, I got different race wheels, I 344 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: changed my training program. I actually went to Hawaii twice 345 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: that year to train and to race. I was like, 346 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: I need to be on the course. I even got 347 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: you know, I even prayed to Madame Pele, like I 348 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: just I did all of the things. And so when 349 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: I went back and I actually I carried this key 350 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: chain around that it was sixteen hours and five minutes, 351 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: and that was my goal time. I was like, I 352 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: think I've done, like spreadsheeted this out. 353 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: I think I could do. 354 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: This race in sixteen oh five. And I ended up 355 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: going to Hawaii in two thousand and five for that race, 356 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: and I crossed that finish line in fifteen oh five. 357 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: There we go. 358 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: So it was amazing, so amazing, so amazing. 359 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: You talked about also different equipment, and I think that's 360 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: something that's really been interesting for me this week to 361 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: see a range of the different equipment that is available 362 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: now to paralympians and disabled individuals. Can you talk a 363 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: little bit about what has changed, what products is Nike 364 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: making right now? 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: That serve that community. 366 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we have. 367 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: A whole collection of things, and I'm so proud of 368 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: the work that I've gotten to do it Nike in 369 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the innovation space. You know, for me, it started with footwear. 370 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: We have our Flies collection now we call easy On, 371 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: where we make footwear that's just more accessible for people 372 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: with or without disabilities to get that footwear on easier, 373 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: whether that's an Air Jordan one Flies which I'm wearing today, 374 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: or the Nike Go Flies. And we also have our 375 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: peg easy On and that's also one too. Like look, 376 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: I got to even wear an earlier version of the 377 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: Pegasus easy On in Kona, because you are timed on 378 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: your transitions, so it's not you know, I love that 379 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: we're making footwear that makes it easier for anyone to 380 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: get dressed independently and without hassles, to get out the 381 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: door and get into the sport of play. But when 382 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: you're raising a triathlon, you are timed on how fast 383 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: you get those shoes on. So I mean, I love 384 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: that this latest version of the peg easy On is 385 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: even better than the one I got to use at 386 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: the last Iron Man I did in twenty eighteen. But 387 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: it is it's a piece of equipment that helps people 388 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: get out into the sport of play, but it also 389 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: helps elite triathletes get through their transitions quicker. 390 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: You know what I love about you, Among many things, 391 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: I think it's so inspirational that you have been dealt 392 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: a circumstance that maybe at first you weren't stoked about, 393 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 4: and you have made the conscious choice and continue to 394 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: choose to do the best you can with what you have. 395 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: Can you talk a little bit about that, because I 396 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: think that there are so many individuals who struggle with 397 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: making that choice, who struggle with getting over the things 398 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: that they can't control, accepting things how they are, and 399 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: making the best of a situation. 400 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Emily, you said it, You're the best right there. I mean, 401 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: it's really really leaning into those things where you know 402 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: that you cannot change. I'm not going to grow my 403 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: leg back. I am not going to be I'm also 404 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: not super tall. I like to say I'm fun sized, 405 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to be a tall supermodel. I'm 406 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: not gonna you know, but I know that there's things that. 407 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: I can do. 408 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: I also know that in every opportunity that I've had, 409 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: I've also wanted to use that to bring someone else along, 410 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: because I felt left behind and so I don't want 411 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: to let others feel left behind. And so that also 412 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: and in many ways too, like you know, when you're 413 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: a marathon or and you have ignited other people to 414 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: get to their marathon start line, it also kind of 415 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: fuels yourself, Like the joy that you feel and the 416 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: joy that I have felt in doing sport. It's been cool, 417 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: but I mean even being here at the Paralympic Games, 418 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: I think it's even it's almost twice as cool the 419 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: joy that I feel when you see someone else succeed 420 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: and so like, and that can also keep your motivation 421 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: and love and passion and all of those things. So 422 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: in many ways it's sort of I feel in some 423 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: ways it's sort of been selfish and in some kind 424 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: of way that like, but it's like, you know, in 425 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: helping others, it's kept me super stoked and super involved, 426 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: and I still you know, look, my body's aging. 427 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: I've started to have arthritis. 428 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, we all raise the sunset and all that, 429 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: but I get to stay connected and I get to 430 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: relive those finish lines through other people. 431 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: And I don't want to put words in your mouth 432 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: but being on this side of the coin at Nike, 433 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: you have this opportunity now to do so much of 434 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: the stuff that you just mentioned, to give back, to 435 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: enable and empower others to go after their big potential. 436 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine how that must feel for you. 437 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: This has been a dream come true. You know. 438 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I never got to win that Paralympic medal. 439 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I've been on some podiums, but the Paralympics is a 440 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: podium I've never gotten to be on. But when I 441 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: think about my work at Nike and I think about 442 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: the way that we can change the world through our innovation, 443 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I've won the gold medal. 444 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: Two last questions. 445 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: First question, I can't let you go from our brief 446 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: chat today without talking about seven seven seven. Can you 447 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: just do me a favor and talk to me a 448 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: little bit about not only what the World Marathon Challenge is, 449 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 4: but the feelings at the end of it. 450 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: Man, Oh, that's what I don't know. 451 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. 452 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people know about my Iron 453 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Man races, but I am proud to be the first 454 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: leg amputee, male or female to do a race called 455 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: the World Marathon Challenge, which is seven marathons in seven 456 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: days on seven continents. And it was like the hardest 457 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: thing I have ever done. I mean, keeping your mental 458 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: strength tough and your body tough for seven days long. 459 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it was hard and I definitely 460 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: had a breaking point. 461 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 3: You know. 462 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: We started in Antarctica, then we went to Cape Town, 463 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: then we went to Perth, then Dubai and then to Portugal. 464 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: And when I got to Portugal, the wheels started to 465 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: come off. I thought I was gonna quit. I started crying. 466 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: I called my coach and my husband during the race 467 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: as I'm running, and I'm. 468 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if I can do this, you know. 469 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: I was like, and who even needs Europe. I've already 470 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: run in this continent. I think I'm gonna quit. 471 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: And then you know, and actually it was another you know, 472 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: so I had a meltdown. My husband tried to snap 473 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: me out of it, and he didn't really succeed. I 474 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: was still in the meltdown and it was another racer 475 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: who came up and he hugged me and he just said, Sarah, 476 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: you can do this. And he started to cry and 477 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: he was like He's like, you know, you have to 478 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: keep going, just like push through the pain and keep 479 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: moving forward. He's like, you got this. He's like you 480 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: don't want to quit. He's like, you don't want to 481 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: feel that disappointment. And I was like, oh my god, 482 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: you're right. And I just like I kept through and 483 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: it was raining. It was like it was pouring and 484 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the ground was slippering and my leg kept slipping and 485 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: and I was like, I got to just pull it 486 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: together and tomorrow is going to be another day. And 487 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: it was my slowest time of the race, but short, 488 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, I did it. I finished, and then we 489 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, finished in Colombia, and then I got to 490 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: Miami and that the finish line was in the US 491 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: and my family was there and it was hot, but 492 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: I had actually I had our you know, early version 493 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: of the Alpha flies too, and so I was saving 494 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: them for the last race and I put them on 495 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I think having that family 496 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: there really put put it together. And I knew, you know, 497 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: it was just like hitting mile twenty. My granddad was 498 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: day seven, but it was just like the most amazing 499 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: finish line across that and just know that I could 500 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: be strong, not for just twenty six miles, but for 501 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: seven days it was amazing. I mean, I just like 502 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: the problem with having that feeling. It's like to capture 503 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: it again, you have to do it all over again. 504 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I could do that, But 505 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to savor it and always think fondly. And 506 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I hope that there's someone that can race behind me 507 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: and break my records and do better than I can do, 508 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: because I might have opened the door, but there's someone 509 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: else that can walk through after me. 510 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: Break through the door, break down the door. You know, 511 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: it's really beautiful. It's just a testament to not only 512 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: your will. But you said I'd have to do it again, 513 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: But I would argue that that strength comes with you now. 514 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: That is strength that you carry for a life. You 515 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: didn't come this far to only come this far. I 516 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: finished the podcast every time by asking people to give 517 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 4: themselves advice during a big hurdle moment for you, yourself, 518 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 4: the hurdle moment of not crossing that finish line the 519 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: first time when you went to Kona. You have an opportunity, 520 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 4: knowing what you know now, to offer yourself advice back then. 521 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: What would you tell yourself? 522 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: I would say this, and it actually is a mantra 523 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: that I still tell myself. So here's what I'd say. 524 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: The pain is temporary and the memory lasts forever. 525 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 4: The pain is temporary, the memory lasts forever. I'm so 526 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: glad that we were able to do this, Sarah, how 527 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: do people find you on the social They don't follow you? 528 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: Just yet? Give us all of the details. 529 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on Instagram. 530 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: You can find me at Always Try and that's spelled 531 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: tri I little play on words as a triathlete, So 532 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: you can find me there at Always Try Tri. 533 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: I am over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily a 534 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 4: Body Another hurdle conquered. 535 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.