1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Seven o'clock on a Thursday. You know what time it is. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paul Moyer's time for a Hawks Live. Oh, Michael Bump 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: is here with Paul Moyer. How you doing, Moyer? It's Thursday. 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: By the way, the Mariners are Boston lost today. It's 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: just for those out there, just make sure you're all 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: aware of that. And we are now officially tied in 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: the wild Card. Yeah, pretty exciting. It is exciting. You know, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: this is Seahawks Hawks Live. But you know it's good 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: for the Northwest. It can't always be just the Seahawks 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. You know, everybody you know is on 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: board for for both of these. So so I'm doing 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: pretty well, but I'm still licking my wounds from last week. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: It was tough, Bump. It was a tough one for 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: analysts like us to really go through this game and 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: try and fix things. And right now there's a lot 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: to fix, particularly on defense. Lots to fix on defense. 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Now there's an elephant in this room right now. People 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: want to plays blame. Is it the offense, is it 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: the defense? The coaches, the players? I mean, you can 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: go any direction with this. I feel like everyone has 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: played a role in this right. In this one and 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: two start, everyone took their turn kind of not living 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: up to expectations. So I'm going to ask you the 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: question I've ben't asked all week, Paul Moyer, What do 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: we do? Where do we go from here? Well, let's 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: let's start with this part. First of all, it's not 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: just the corner's fault. It's not just Trey Flowers fault. 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, we play a lot of three deep zone. 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: This is it's certainly the back seven and at times 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: the back six. You know, we've been doing a lot 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: of five man front looks at tire bear bear look 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: for those who like that terminology better. And the type 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: of zone defense we play, it takes everybody. I mean, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: it takes the linebackers taking their proper drops, being in 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the right spot to take away their ends, the turns 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: hold off those, and then you know, rally up to 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: check downs things like that. It takes, you know, the 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: coaches mixing things up to give the players the best 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to succeed. And last week was tough. And it's 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: not like each player's busting ten fifteen times a game. 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: You get a bust one time from really I think 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, he played a lot of different coverage and 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: everybody else have two times, maybe you know Jordan Brooks 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: where maybe just didn't quite you know, push out to 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the turn or hook hook area. You get one here, 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: two there, and starts adding up and they got seven 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: of those guys. Now it starts getting to fourteen twenty 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: one plays and Minnesota found at all. But we do 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta shore some things up in our second 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: in the past defense and our drops and how we're 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: crowding people along the way because we can have the 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: greatest pass rush in the world. The ball comes out 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: quick and we're not covering people. Obviously, it makes for 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: a long day, but there's there's a lot of things 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: they've got to go back, And to me, it's not 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: even just simplifying it. I don't think we're playing a 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: real comp plex defense right now. We play a lot 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: of zone. At times we blitz the times we send 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: five guys and play kind of a highbred zone defense 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: where the three guys inside kind of like quarters. You know, 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: for those who are a quarter people, it's usually take 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: the three inside linebacker, safety, whoever they are, and they 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: crowd those three inside receivers and then you kind of 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: leave the corners a little bit isolated out out wide 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: or you give up some of those throws. So it 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: has some of that too. And you know they've been 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: reading us and they've got they had some really good 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: routes last week, but we just got to commit to 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: doing better pattern recognition. You know, again, a guy in 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the flat, guy in the flat. Since you've been in 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: youth football, guys in the flat, you widen just a 72 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: little bit, but you got to know you're holding off 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: a turn or an end route coming behind you. You 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: just have I mean, it's just basic football and then 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: you rally to the other stuff. We're just there's just 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot of again youthful mistakes and we've got to 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: get things tightened up by everybody. Lots of things going 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: on on the back end, second and third level, I'm 79 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: gonna say, and even down into the trenches, right, I mean, 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had a lot of time to throw the 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: football last week, only sacked one time. Quarterback hits he 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: only was hit three or four times. I mean, you're 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: not getting to the quarterback and there's a lot of 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: space going on on the back end, so there's gonna 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: be a lot of success now the Hawks. Last year, 86 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: we're in the same predicament. Right Statistically, they are the 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: worst defense in the NFL. Last year they could say, look, 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: at least we're good against the run. They can't even 89 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: say that this year, Moyer. They are thirtieth against the run, 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: twenty six against the past. So it's like, you can't 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: be bad at both. You gotta find a way to 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: bring something to the table and be good at good 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: at one aspect of defense right now, and we're just 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: not seeing it. What I think though, I think that 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: there's enough when it comes to personnel on this team 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: to fix things right. I think everyone just has to 97 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: be on the same page. Doesn't mean that they're necessarily 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna get there right. Every NFL rousse or has talent, 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: but it takes the right combination of coaching, of scheme, 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: of players understanding what they're doing. Um, this is the 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: first time in maybe two or three years where I'm 102 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: legit concerned. I'm like, all right, this is this game 103 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: against the Niners. It's probably the biggest Week four game 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: I've ever covered for the seahofs Well. We haven't been 105 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: one and two since two thousand and eleven Pete's second year, 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, so you know, we're used to having success, 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and obviously since uh Russell you know, has been here, 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, we haven't had those. Um here's what's two 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: and eighteen. We started one and two as well, because 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: we started owing two and we beat the Cowboys to 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: make it one and two. Obviously that team bounced back 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: got to the playoffs, because when you're own two in 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: the Nation Football League, it's really hard to get the playoffs. 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: I think it's in like the fifteen percent ish range. 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: But that was the last time the Seahawks started one 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: and two. You know, I'm just I was reading somebody's 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: notes and you make the notes, but maybe I probably 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: read that one wrong. The difference between last year and things. 119 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: By the way, then last year and this year. Last year, 120 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: our defense played pretty well in the first half and 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: even pretty well into the middle and sometimes third quarter. 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: It was the fourth quarter. Yeah, you know, we did 123 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: the statistic last year where you know, the Seahawks, if 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: you took the first three quarters and averaged it out, 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: you know, they would have been like in the top 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: five defense. But if you took the fourth quarter average 127 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: over those first you know, six seven games. They were 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: given up almost eight hundred yards a game, and so 129 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: we had huge leads at that time. So it was 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: really passing playing saft. Sometimes we gave up some big plays. 131 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: We started to tighten that thing up, but we started 132 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: off five and zero, and so you're you just go, okay, 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: We're we're okay against the run. We're playing good defense 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: to give our a chance for us to get these 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: big leads. This one, though, feels different because we're not 136 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: stopping the run. We're not stopping them early, these really 137 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: long sustained drives. Matter of fact, last week they had 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: five drives in a row, nine plays. Ninety year, it's 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: twelve plays, sixty six sixteen fifty eleven seventy twelve eighty 140 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: eight sixty plays in five drives. That's probably more than 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: we had, you know, in the whole game. And then 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: what's more important is the amount of time. And so 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: those five drives, you know, just adding that thing up, 144 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: you know, was well over twenty minutes, almost thirty minutes. 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's half the football game. So this 146 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: one's tough, I really And what changed last year as well, Bump, 147 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: was we decided to get more tight and can test 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: the throws, and we started blitzing. We started putting pressure 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: on them, and I think we have to do that. 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's really tough to play soft defense. You know, look, 151 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Pete knows this stuff. Everybody out there. There's not one 152 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: dumb football coach on the Seahawks. These guys are smart guys. 153 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: They've worked hard to get where they are, and so 154 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: they just they got to correct some things. And sometimes 155 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: you go in with some personnel that you think it's right. 156 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: But we didn't play any starters really in preseason, so 157 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: you think you have it. And also you didn't get 158 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: into the regular season. You go, oh, this is how 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: people are scheming us. We gotta make some adjustments. The 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Hawks are gonna have to make some adjustments. So now 161 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch over to the offense. People are gonna say, 162 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: all right, what happened to this offense? That first half 163 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: they put up seventeen points. Things look good. The second 164 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: half they stall out. I'm gonna let you know what 165 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: happened that second half. The second half, the Vikings come out, 166 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: sixteen plays fifty yards. Talk about those longs drive that 167 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: you have. Then the Hawks get the ball. The Vikings 168 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: get a field goal. Off of that, the Hawks get 169 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: the ball, five players are out, they punt the football. 170 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: You are playing catch up. At this point. The Vikings 171 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: score thirty unanswered points. You're playing catch up. People are 172 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, why didn't Chris Carson touch the football? You 173 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: need to implement him into the game play. Yes, you do, 174 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: but when you were down, you can now run the 175 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: football six to eight times in the drive and expect 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: to keep time on the clock and get back in 177 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the game. You are forced to play a certain way. 178 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: And guess who knows you have to play a certain way. 179 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Zimmer on the other side, he goes, look, they're behind, 180 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to throw the football. We're gonna have 181 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: to We're gonna sit our guys back deep and anticipate 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. So it's hard to play catch up. 183 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: It's hard to be dynamic and play catch up when 184 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: you're behind. Yeah, it's frustrating because we've had now three 185 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: games in a row, we've had a double digit lead, 186 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: and we've squandered two of those and not just squanded, 187 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: squander them quickly. And that's we gotta start putting teams away. 188 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of positives though. You know, obviously, Chris 189 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Carson's averaging four point nine yards per carry. Russell Wilson's 190 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: having just another phenomenal year, one hundred and thirty three 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: QB rating, He's got seven touchdowns, no interceptions. We just 192 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: got tightened up on defense. I think our offense is 193 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: explosive enough for us to win a lot of football games. 194 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: You talk about double digit leads in the last one 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one games, they have ten losses. When 196 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: they have double digit leads. Doesn't happen often, but we've 197 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: been seeing that a lot lately. Here two of them 198 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: this year, yeah, two of them. Yeah, it's been rough, 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: all right. When we get back, we got to look 200 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: forward to the forty nineties. We'll get an opponent preview 201 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: from Nick Wagner from ESPN dot com. Lots some more 202 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: to do here right here on Hawks Live. Welcome back 203 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: to Hawks Alive every Thursday, right here on seventeen ESPN 204 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: on Michael Bubbas here with Paul Moyer. Hawks are moving 205 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: on to the forty nine ers, and now we get 206 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: to talk to Nick Wagner from ESPN dot com. Nick, 207 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: how you doing I'm doing well? How are you guys. 208 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: We're doing okay man. Thanks for taking time out of 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: your data holloatus man. The Hawks are looking to bounce 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: back against the forty nine forty nine Ers are looking 211 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: to bounce back from a loss against the Green Bay 212 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Packers in dramatic fashion. What's the temperature over there in 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco? Do they feel they have a good football 214 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: team here? And is there really a quarterback controversy going on? Well, 215 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting actually because I think as Week four games, Joe, 216 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to press the panic button, 217 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: but this is it feels like a pretty big Week 218 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: four game for both of these teams because I think 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: both of them are still trying to figure out kind 220 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: of what their identity is and who they're going to 221 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty one, and to answer a question, 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: to find out if they're absolutely good teams or not. 223 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: And when you look across the division, see the Cardinals 224 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: in the Rams playing this week, one of those teams, 225 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 1: barring as high, is going to get to four And 226 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: oh so, if the Seahawks lose this game, they're three 227 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: game back. If the Niners lose this game, they're two 228 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: games back in the division. Already and then you're facing 229 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: an uptill climate, a really tough division. So I think 230 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: from the forty nine Ers standpoint, they understand that this 231 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: is a big game. It's always a big game when 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: they played the Seahawks anyway, but coming off of a loss, 233 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: very disappointing loss, as you mentioned, I think that ratches 234 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: up the intensity in a little bit, and I think 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: they know that they're in a position and it's you know, 236 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to say if the must win obviously 237 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: this early in the season, but it's about as close 238 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: as it can be for a Week four game. And 239 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: then as far as the quarterback controversy, you know, Kyle 240 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: Shanahan continues to say that it's not And I think 241 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen and you're going to continue to 242 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: see on that front, is as long as the forty 243 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: nine Ers are winning games and they have a waiting record, 244 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: it's probably going to be Jimmy Garoppolo. But what's also 245 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: going to happen is that that drumbeat for Trey Lance 246 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: is going to get louder as long as the forty 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: nine Ers offense continues to do what it's done over 248 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and I say that meaning really 249 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: slow starts in the first half, not scoring points in 250 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: until just before halftime each of the last two weeks. 251 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're turning it on a little bit in 252 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the second half like they did against Green Bay. But 253 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: that inconsistency is only going to get people wanting to 254 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: see Trey Lance Moore and Ned Drumbee's only going to 255 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: continue to get louder. Yeah, two very different losses. You're 256 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, really struggle, did not play well you guys, 257 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: was a heartbreaking one. You know, we obviously don't have 258 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy at all. Russell's their guy. But why 259 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: is Jimmy Garoppolo so polarizing on that All of the 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: guy has done is one when he's on the field, 261 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: he's played pretty well, maybe in some clutch situations, maybe 262 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: a struggle at times, But why why so polarizing when 263 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: is win loss records fantastic. Yeah, it's funny because I 264 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: think what you what you get now and this is 265 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I think a product largely of social media where there's 266 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: not any room for gray area or nuance. Right, you're 267 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: either the best ever, you're the or your trash, and 268 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: there's no room in between, like that's kind of how 269 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: people seem to view it these days. And I think 270 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: that Jimmy Garoppolo falls in between though, obviously, and there's 271 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that fall in between there. But 272 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I think part of it is is forty nine ers 273 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: fans are accustomed to, or at least expect great things 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: from great quarterbacks, or from their quarterbacks, I should say, 275 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: and especially when you've got a guy Jimmy Garoppolo who's 276 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: making as much money as he is. But I think 277 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: what it really also boils down to is is that, 278 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of quarterbacks, when you 279 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: look at the elite guys that're like Russell up there, 280 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: or the Tom Brady's and Aaron Rodgers in the world, 281 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: they elevate the talent around them. And there's not a 282 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: lot of those guys out there, but the other guys, 283 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Garoppolo needs a lot of things around 284 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: him to be good for him to be at his 285 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of maximum capacity, and so I think that part 286 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: that plays into it as well. But really, what you 287 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: have now is Jimmy Garoppolo at this point his career, 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: he just kind of is who he is, and that's fine. 289 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: He's a fine player, but you know, you also wants 290 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to see somebody who can maybe raise the ceiling of 291 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: what their offense can be, which is why the forty 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: nine ers went out and got Trey Lance. Obviously, part 293 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: of that was Broppolo's injury history, but the other part 294 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: of that was Trey Lance gives them the higher ceiling 295 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: than what they already have offensively, and particularly now that 296 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: their defense isn't as dominant as it was in twenty nineteen. 297 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Nick I blame all the drama on Twitter fingers, those 298 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: dang Twitter fingers. Everyone has an opinion these days, all right. 299 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: So now, the last couple of years that Niners have 300 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: been hit with a lot of injuries. This year, it 301 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: looks like that running back position has been hit. How 302 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: do you assess that position and what are your thoughts 303 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: on Trey Sermons so far? Yeah, it's it's kind of 304 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: been what you expect. You know, the Niners, other than 305 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's first year, they have cycled through three or 306 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: four starting running backs just about every season, so they've 307 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, they kind of accounted for the possibility of injuries. Obviously, 308 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: running back in the position that lends itself to that, 309 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: but they've also put themselves in a position where they've 310 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: counted on a couple of guys who have lengthy injury histories. 311 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: And they did that at other positions too, But running 312 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: back being the topic we're talking about right now, where 313 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: he mosted is one of those guys. He gets injured 314 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: week one or sorry, week two, and all of a 315 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: sudden he's lost for the year and he's having surgery. 316 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson Junior got injured standing up in his locker 317 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: room legitimately in spring. He's just standing up in the 318 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: locker room and he cares meniscus in his knee and 319 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: he's out till mid season. Jamichael Hasty trying to catch 320 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: a pitch, a simple pitch, high ankle sprain. He's out 321 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: for a period of time. So they've had that bad 322 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: run of bad luck injury wise for the whole team, 323 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: but running back seems to be the spot that has 324 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: really hit them the most, at least on offense. I'd 325 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: take corner on defense, but they still have other options. 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: You mentioned Tray Sermon. You know he has been okay. 327 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I think they gave him every opportunity that they could 328 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: to let him kind of win the one B job 329 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: behind most during training camp and didn't really do it. 330 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, Elijah Mitchell, their sick round pick at the 331 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: University of Louisiana, kind of sort passed him. He's got 332 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more juice, a little bit more of 333 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: that home run ability that the Niners like in the 334 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: outside zone running game, So all those things kind of 335 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: factored in. But running game is not in the great 336 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: way right now. Guys. In the last two weeks they 337 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: have really struggled to run the ball. And as you 338 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: guys know that, it's a big part of what Kyle 339 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan offense wants to do, and without it, it's contributed 340 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a great amount through the struggles they've had offensively, particularly 341 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: early in games you mentioned twenty nineteen. There again, their defenses. 342 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I think we know them for defense and a great 343 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: rivalry over the years because of that, and maybe they're 344 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: not as dominant now. It's kind of surprising because they 345 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: still got some big names. I mean, you still got Arms, 346 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: you still got you know, Nick Bosa, you still got 347 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Fred Warner. What's the biggest reason you think it's not 348 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: as dominant? And I'll throw the defensive coordinator Leavin as well, 349 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: but what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean you you 350 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: hit on it right there. I think I think that 351 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: losing Robert Salaz it was probably their biggest loss of 352 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: the off season. One thing I would have had for 353 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: sure is moving the Forrest fucker, who was just kind 354 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: of criminally underrated for a lot of his time with 355 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, and now just in the last 356 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: year or so since he got traded to the Colts 357 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: as kind of started to get the recognition that he 358 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: deserved as an all pro. But even just looking at 359 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Nick Bolsa, if you watched Nick Vosa playing the last 360 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, teams are chipping him, throwing more attention 361 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: his way than they did in twenty nineteen. Part of 362 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: that he was rookie then, but having the forced Buckler 363 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: next to him certainly helped because you had to kind 364 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: of pick your poison. And Javon kim Law, who they 365 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: drafted to replace Buckner, hasn't really dumb. Neil lived up 366 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: to that expectations that he had let alone live up 367 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: to what Buckner was able to do. The other thing 368 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I would say defensively that has set them back is 369 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: quite frankly, they just haven't made a lot of investments 370 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: at cornerback, and you know, they they went out and 371 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: had Richard Sherman for a couple of years, and obvious 372 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: in two nineteen he was really good. He's no longer here. 373 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: They resigned Jason Varette, who had a really good year 374 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: last year, but we know what his injury history is, 375 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: So if you're banking on him to be your number 376 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: one cornerback, there's inherent risk that comes with that. And 377 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: there's there's other guys at corner that had been banged up, 378 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: and you would just like to have seen them make 379 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: a more significant investment than just a third round pick 380 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and a fifth round pick and couple of you know, 381 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: one year deals for corners in this off season particularly, 382 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: and they kind of try to replace Sherman. So I 383 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: think those are a few of the things that are 384 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 1: kind of at play here. I think they still, like 385 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned, they still have a lot of talent. They 386 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: should still be good enough. But I think the difference 387 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: is this defense isn't going to be an elite defense 388 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: like that twenty nineteen group was, which seems the offense 389 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: has to pick up the slack, and that's where I 390 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: think the Trey Lansbacker comes into trying to elevate that 391 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: feeling to kind of make up the difference there. Nick, 392 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, but there's a there's 393 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: two receivers out here that are pretty good, Dk Metcalf 394 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett. But San Francisco they have two of 395 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: the row man you got Brennan I Yuk and Deebo Samuel. 396 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: How excited is this franchise about the potential these two 397 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: young receivers. Well, I think Samuel in particular is a 398 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: guy that they love what he's done. And really if 399 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: you look at him this year, it's like watching a 400 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: different player in some ways because as you guys know, 401 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of came into the league. It's more of 402 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: a gadget guy. I mean, comparable to Percy Harvin. What 403 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin was up there in Seattle, and know he 404 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a well rounded receiver. So they were really fine 405 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: different ways to get him the ball. But when it 406 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: came time to you know, run a fourteen yard did 407 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: round him third and thirteen, He's not necessarily the guy 408 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: that's doing that. That was want to trade for Emmanuel 409 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Standards the two thousand and nine you know, part of 410 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: why they did that. But Gibo has really kind of 411 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: reshaped his body. He's put a lot of work into 412 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: route running. He's just a more complete receiver, which makes 413 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: him in turn, a more complete player, and it gives 414 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: the Niners a lot more ability to get him the 415 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: ball in different ways. And you're seeing that his target share, 416 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: I think it's something like thirty five point seven percent 417 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: of his routes run he's getting the ball on, which 418 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: is extraordinarily high for a guy on a team with 419 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: George Kittle and Brandon I you gone on. And also, 420 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: so he's really taking a step forward, or at least 421 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: appears to be. He's in much better shape. I think 422 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: that's going to help him, you know, potentially stay healthy, 423 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe not taking as maybe risks in terms of kind 424 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: of you know, trying to run through guys as much. 425 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Another part of that. And then Brandon had has had 426 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: kind of an up and down you know, the summer 427 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: and leading into the first part of this season, but 428 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: starting to kind of come around a little bit. I 429 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: think they wanted to light a fire under him a 430 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: little bit because he didn't play a whole lot in 431 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Week one. But he's starting to kind of get back 432 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: into that role that they envisioned for him. So I 433 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get it going. He just maybe needed 434 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: a little fire lid under him. And I'm sure as 435 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: he watches Debo continue to ascend, that's got a kind 436 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: of factor into getting him to up and run in 437 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: his wall. Nick strong stuff man. We appreciate your time definitely. 438 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: All right, I was Nick Wagoner for me. It's being 439 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: dot Com Nichol's own point man. He's ready to go, 440 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: all right. When we returned, we will chat with defensive 441 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: tackle Robert him Deici right here on Hawks Live. Welcome 442 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: back to Hawks Live. Every Thursday. Me and my guy 443 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Paul Morey will be right here and we talked to 444 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: a seahawk every week. Today we get to talk to 445 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Robert him Dechi. Robert, how are you doing many doing? 446 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. How are you doing? Good? Man? 447 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Nice to hear from you. Now. I'm I'm gonna take 448 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: you back to high school man, because I was I 449 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: was a top one hundred prospect coming out of high school. 450 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: But then I look at you and you just you know, 451 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: you just did your thing, man, number one prospect overall? 452 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: How was that in high school being a number one, 453 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's coming at you, giving you their best shot. 454 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: How is it just having that prestige? And so it was, Uh, 455 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: it was it was. It was a blessing, you know, 456 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: to be able to be in that position and and 457 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: and to be able to play you know, all the 458 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: all the people I did play, being the number one 459 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: playing in the nation, and uh, and and and what 460 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: it came with, you know, really having to make sure 461 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: I worked hard and had to stay at that level. 462 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: It took a lot of work in it took a 463 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of focus and uh, and it was I mean 464 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: it was incredible, man, just to be just to be 465 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: in that position and and still be here now is 466 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: it's Uh, it's I'm just really you know, I'm just 467 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: really happy, you know about it, and and I and 468 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm just excited. You go on white Kipedia, which we 469 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: always look and for everyone listening, I hate to go 470 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: look at Robert's white Kipedia page because it's it's really 471 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: impressive when you, yeah, you're not just the number one bag, 472 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: you unanimous number one recruit coming out and there's only 473 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: been four of those since two thousand and two, one 474 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: of them being Clowney who was here as well, and 475 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: you were you were wired to wire. But you're you 476 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: went to Grayson High School, really good high school. I 477 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: mean you guys, you know when you were there for sure, 478 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable finishing fifteen and oz on the ESPN. How does 479 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Georgia lose you? How do you end up at Old 480 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: Miss oh? Man all? My brother? Yeah, my brother was there, 481 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: so that was I just followed him and so I 482 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: ended up going there because he was there. That was 483 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the Yeah, initially, so are you? That was that was 484 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: the reason why I went there. I did go a 485 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: business George and I like me and Marker had a 486 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: good relationship. But I just you know, oh miss oh 487 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: miss one. And at the end, how you liking Old 488 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: Miss right now, Lane Kiffin? Are they going in the 489 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: right direction? Oh yeah, I think I think they. I 490 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: think they have a great team and I think, uh yeah, 491 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I think they have a really good team. And I'm 492 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: looking forward to see what they do. I want to 493 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: see I want to see how they finished. They're looking good. 494 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: They finished, definitely looking good so far. So okay, so 495 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: now we're gonna transition because kind of recruiting, right, So now, 496 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: ye last year. You don't play, but you end up, 497 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: ye free agent, you end up in Seattle. Tell me 498 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: that why why Seattle? What was that process like? Well, um, well, 499 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I was painting, yeah, and I was, uh, you know, 500 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I just kind of focusing on myself and getting my 501 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: getting my body back right and kind of just getting 502 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: my whole you know, you know, almost life back in 503 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: in shape. And uh and and I was working out 504 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: and one of my uh and my agent reached out 505 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: to um Seattle and and uh, and I just I 506 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: kept working and and now now and now we're here, 507 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: and so it was just a was just a man. 508 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: It was it was a matter of you know, me 509 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: just working hard and and there being an opportunity and 510 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: me getting blessed with the opportunity and and and and 511 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: trying and making the most out of it. And I'm 512 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing that. But um yeah, but yeah, I 513 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: was just I was training and and uh and Seattle 514 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: cold and and it happens and we're We're glad you 515 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: are here now. Robert more and I have been through 516 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: some training camps and during training camp, but we went 517 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: out there that I would watch you, man, you always 518 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: had this energy about you, this life about you. Where 519 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: does that come from? And how does that help you 520 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: in your everyday life? Well, well, you know, just I 521 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: think life is life is you know, it's just a 522 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: blessing man. And when you get the opportunity, you know, 523 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: to to be in this position and overcome things and 524 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: and and and and still be here with this opportunity 525 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: is just you know, you know, you I have nothing 526 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: but gratitude, and and that gratitude just gives me a 527 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: gusta winch because because it's just like, I mean, every 528 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: moment it's just like it's enjoyable. I can enjoy every 529 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: moment because I know where I came from and I 530 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: know where I am now, and I know I'm going 531 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: to do to make sure I uphold the position I'm in, 532 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: the position I'm in right now. So it's just it's 533 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: just a blessing man. So that for that simple fact 534 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: that I have the opportunity every day, every morning to 535 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: wake up and do it, I love that. That really 536 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: gives me. Ah, it really makes me feel. It makes 537 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: you feel good man. It makes me feel I can 538 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: just go to work and attack attack what I do. 539 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, with so much intensity and appreciation, so intense 540 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: intensity and appreciation somewhere that well at tack you do. 541 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know we are again we are a 542 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: training camp, just watching your get off your quickness. I 543 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: read you ran a four or five six at one point, 544 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: which is just insane for a man of your side, 545 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: but really incredible. But I'm gonna ask you. You come 546 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: into campo, did you really You're right? Moyer? Well, I'm 547 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: just right. Yeah. It was. It was a high school 548 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: I remember, I believe you. I just yea. I was 549 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: a dB and I ran a four five five and 550 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we got a defensive tackle running 551 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: sub four fives. Now, that's uh, pretty pretty remarkable when 552 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you when you think about it, Yeah, when you when 553 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: you come in you're having a great camp, but don't 554 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: get in preseason, get nicked up along the way your 555 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: first game, first regular season game, and you you you 556 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: play a lot of snaps. I mean I was looking 557 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: at some of the numbers there. How sore were you 558 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: after the first full game you played? Um, I feel 559 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel good out there. Well just 560 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: because you know training camp, you know the the work 561 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: we put in during training camp. I just I felt 562 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: I felt like that had me prepared for the games 563 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: and and uh and I just felt really good even 564 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: going into the game. And uh and I just want 565 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: to make sure, you know, I keep I keep working 566 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: and try to get better so I can keep feeling 567 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: better throughout the season. But um, I feel I feel good. 568 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I was just happy to be to 569 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: be out there and have have my wind and and 570 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: have my focus and to be able to be out 571 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: there and you know, to just be out there on 572 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: the field again and just you know, to do that. 573 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: So it's just, uh, you know, it just feels good. Man. 574 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm just excited for the opportunity and and 575 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: uh and yeah, and I know I know throughout the season, 576 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: I feel good. Uh I feel I'll keep feeling better 577 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: throughout the season. So uh yeah, Robert, you guys are 578 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: coming off a couple losses. You got forty nine is 579 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: coming up this week. When you put on the film, 580 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: what challenges do you see? What the Niners? And then 581 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: what's the vibe? It's team right now? Um, I think 582 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: from from from what I from from this week and 583 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: a practice and preparation. Um, where where we're focused and 584 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: we're locked in, we're where we need to be um 585 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: where we we have. I feel like we got humbled 586 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: a little bit and we we we we we uh, 587 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: we took a loss. And so I think that you know, 588 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of made us, you know, re re channel our 589 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: focus and and really dig deep to you know and 590 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: figure out, you know, the the the wave of how 591 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: this season is going to go. And so, um, I 592 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: think we're I think we're really focused. Man. So I'm 593 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: just I just think we're just trying to get better. 594 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: And so that's what's important. So so Robert, you a 595 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: Southern kid, you know, down in Georgia, you end up 596 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: going to Arizona, where uh it's warm, still south, you 597 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: go to Miami. Now you're up here in the Pacific Northwest. 598 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: So two two questions. One, what do you like to 599 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: do away from football? And how you like in Seattle. 600 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: It's got to be very different from the other states 601 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: that you were you were in, Um, well, uh, Seattle 602 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: is um it's uh, it's well, I mean compared to Miami. 603 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: Is They're all different because just you know, the the 604 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: just the whole you know, demographic of they they're all 605 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: just different. But um, Seattle, you know, the opportunity I 606 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: have with the Seahawks. I feel like I can appreciate 607 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: being here, you know, a lot more, you know, you know, 608 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, So it's just it's just I'm just happy 609 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: to be here, you know, because Seattle is it has 610 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: his own unique uh it has this unique vibe about it, 611 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: and it has its own unique kind of uh energy 612 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: about it. So I mean it's cool, it's it's cool. 613 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: And I still I haven't got a round to go 614 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: really experience you know, all of Seattle, but I'll get 615 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: there eventually. But um, yeah, it's it's it's been great 616 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: so far. So well, Robert, I'll let you know where. 617 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: We're happy you're here. Seattle has his own vibe, unique vibe. 618 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: So to you, man, you keep going in good luck 619 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: this week and gets the forty nine is man. We 620 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking time out of your night. Thank you 621 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: guys so much for reaching out to me. Man. And 622 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing it again or whenever we can. Man. 623 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: And uh, we're gonna rock this weekend. Man, Let's get 624 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: it fun man, twelve twelve, let's go, let's go. We're 625 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna rock out. It's gonna be fun, yes, sir, Thanks Robert. Wait, 626 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. All right, man, you guys 627 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: have a good night, you too, all right? That was 628 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Robert kim DC your d tackle. Man. I'm excited for 629 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: this guy. He sounds excited. And when we return, we're 630 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk to the professor John Clayton. We're gonna talk Seahawks, NFL, 631 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff right here on Hawks Lot. 632 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to hot Slive. It's seven forty five. You 633 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: hit a funk. You know what time it is, John Clayton, 634 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: what's up? Man? Hey, how are we doing? How are 635 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: we doing? We're doing good? Man? How are you good? Good? 636 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: All right? Now I'm watching the Jags versus the Bengals 637 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: aka Clemson versus LSU. What are your thoughts? These aren't 638 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: two very good teams. But it's an actually better game 639 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: than I thought it was going to be. You know, 640 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Trevor Lawrence did well in the 641 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: first half. He's struggling in the second half. But now 642 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: you can see that Cincinnati, who got off such a 643 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: bad start, really came back quickly with that beginning drive 644 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: at the second quarter, getting getting it tied up. So 645 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: it makes for an interesting game. But I mean, these 646 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: are two teams are going to be so far down 647 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: in the standings, Jacksonville lower than anything else. I think, 648 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, the interesting part is whether Trevor Lawrence can 649 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: get his first victory in the NFL. Johnna stood up 650 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: for this segment just for you. I got off the seat. Hey. 651 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: A lot of talk obviously, Josh Gordon earlier this way 652 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: actually Monday, and some people have said the Seahawks may 653 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: have dragged their feet on this one or something, but 654 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Why do you think he ended 655 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: up in Kansas City and not here? Don't know the answer, 656 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: because I guess maybe he was thinking he has a 657 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: chance to go to a team with Patrick Mahomes and 658 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, it may be a better team than Seattle. 659 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: And because I'm surprised, totally surprised, because I know not 660 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: that they've been in contact, because again they couldn't, but 661 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: they were interested, and I think they were planning on 662 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: him coming in and signing the practice squad contract. And 663 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: sure enough, Kansas City gets him to the practice squad 664 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: contract and he doesn't come, which I think is a 665 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: loss for this team because he'd be a good addition. 666 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I know years ago he was a former pro bowler. 667 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: He'd fit in with Russell Wilson. And I don't know 668 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: if it's a matter that Patrick Mahomes did some recruiting 669 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: of him or not, but in the end, it was 670 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: a surprise that he didn't end up in Seattle, because 671 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: he lives in Seattle. Well that was the that's the surprise. 672 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he and Russell, I think have worked out 673 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: together things like that, So I think people thought for 674 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: sure he was going to come here. I mean Pete 675 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: even talked about it once. He had been on Excuse Me, 676 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: John Schneider on our show on Sunday. He talked a 677 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: little bit about it once. They said he was gonna 678 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: be reinstated, and then boom, Monday morning, he's in Kansas City. 679 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: I just that one, really, I think threw a lot 680 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: of people off. It did, and I think it threw 681 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks off a lot too, because you know, they 682 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of I mean again, they weren't tipping their hand 683 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: to the media one way or another what they were 684 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: going to do. But I think clearly they were tipping 685 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: their hand to Josh Gordon as an agents, and maybe 686 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: he was his agents who talked him into going to 687 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City. That very well could be the case. But 688 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the end, I mean, they were anticipating 689 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: on Monday he was going to get totally cleared, and 690 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: then on Monday he was going to sign the practice 691 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: squad here in Seattle. Because he had been vaccinated, there 692 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: was no delay in getting him into any kind of 693 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: a building or anything of that nature. So no, it's 694 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: a surprise and an upset. And again, you know, they 695 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: got maybe a little bit too late into the mix 696 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: for Richard Sherman and they didn't get him, and so 697 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: he goes down to Tampa Bay. John. Everyone's talking about 698 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawk defense right now. Is it the d line, 699 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: the linebackers, the dbs. Personally, I think it's a group project. 700 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: I think they're felling all together right now. But you 701 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: can kind of look at the secondary and point some 702 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: things out. Do you think Sidney Jones gets a shot 703 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: this week? I think he does. I mean, because you know, 704 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers continues to struggle. There's this continued struggle right 705 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: now with the linebackers matching up with the cornerbacks. As 706 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: far as coverage. You know, so many things are open 707 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. I mean, you saw 708 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins take advantage of it more than just about 709 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: any quarterback they've faced in the last couple of years. 710 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, because they've got to do 711 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: something to get things right, and you know, obviously the 712 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: pass rush has to be better. They're going against a 713 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: pretty decent San Francisco defensive line. But here's the interesting 714 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: thing when you look at it. Okay, so Seattle secondary 715 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: has not done well, what do you see from San Francisco? 716 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: Second dear? I mean, right now, how many guys are left? 717 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know they're sitting there. They've got you know, 718 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: they lost Jason Verrett for the season with an acl 719 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know, they don't have uh K One Williams 720 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: because he's gonna miss with a knee injury. Then uh, 721 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: you know you got I can't imagine it. I can't. 722 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that they're gonna be able to get 723 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: Josh Norman out there with a bleeding lung? He had 724 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: a bleeding lung last week? How can he be out 725 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: there in a week? I can't imagine that. And so 726 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I mean, you have, you know, 727 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: a couple of draft choices, a third and a six 728 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: round draft choice. I mean, you've got a couple of 729 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: veteran guys like Drake Kert Patrick, he's won and you 730 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: know they've they picked up, you know, Broughtbuster Scott Scrines. 731 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, if you really think about it, 732 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: if you want to say that the Seahawks are not 733 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: in good shape at the cornerback position, I would contend 734 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: to say that the forty nine ers, they were in 735 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: worse shape normally one and two going into Week four, 736 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: and particularly with a seventeen games or season. Now, you 737 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't think this is a must win. But this division 738 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: is so difficult. So do you think this is a 739 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: must win for the Seahawks It. I mean, if it 740 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: was any other division, it probably wouldn't be a must win. 741 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: In this division, it has to be a must win 742 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: because I mean, you've got four teams right now. I 743 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: mean maybe right now you can say, excluding the Seahawks 744 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: because they're not playing like a playoff team, that you 745 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: are playoff caliber teams. And you look at the first 746 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: week and you know, Seattle looked like a super Bowl 747 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: team going against Indianapolis, and then you'll lay an egg 748 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: on defense for the last two weeks, so now it's 749 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: a matter of trying to pick things up. But I mean, 750 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to come out of this weekend three 751 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: games behind either Arizona or the Rams. That's gonna be 752 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: tough to catch up because one thing in this division, 753 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: every team has a good quarterback. And maybe Jimmy Garoppolo 754 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: of the four might be the worst, but he's still 755 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: not bad. He was able to get his team to 756 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl back in twenty nineteen. John, there are 757 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: five teams remaining in the NFL who are undefeated, the Raiders, 758 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Rams, Panthers, and the Cardinals. So two 759 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: of these guys are in the NFC West. I look 760 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: at these Rams, John, and they look like an elite 761 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: team in this NFL. What are you seeing from the 762 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Rams so far? I mean they look good now. Again, 763 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: their defense isn't as good as last year, but that's anticipated. 764 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: And when they had to take to forty two point 765 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: two million dollar hit on Jared Goff on the dead 766 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: money and Matthew Stafford on the salary, and so you know, 767 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: they lose four starters on defense, but they're still good enough. 768 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: But boy, their offense with Matthew Stafford looks sensational. I mean, 769 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: because look what he's doing with Cooper Cupp. I mean, 770 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: Cup has just been great so far. I mean they 771 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: haven't had much of a running game. Their offensive line 772 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: actually's performing pretty well. But I mean, look how solid 773 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: they've been just in every game. I mean, they look 774 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: like a Super Bowl team and they have to be 775 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: slowed down and right now. As good as Arizona has been, 776 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: and they've been very good, I can't see Arizona going 777 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: down to the Rams and being able to beat them. 778 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Take you around the league a little bet. This one 779 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: to interest me, and we can talk about the Chicago 780 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: Bears and potentially moving. And you know, they just bought 781 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six acres in Arlington Heights, Illinois. 782 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: I never thought they would move from downtown right there 783 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: on the water, even though I think it's probably one 784 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: of the uglier stadiums. What are you here and there? 785 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Is this? Is this going to happen? Are they going 786 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: to move? I mean, if it's a strategy to try 787 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: to get the city to try to help him out, no, 788 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: because the city's not going to help him out. I mean, 789 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like they may be in the 790 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: process of moving. But here's an interesting and again I 791 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: don't know how valid this rumor was, but it came 792 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: out the other day, is that you know, down in Jacksonville, 793 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: Shod Khan, the owner of the Jaguars, who's the University 794 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: of Illinois grad and a big Chicago City fan, is 795 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: thinking maybe he can move the Jaguars up to Chicago 796 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: and take over Soldier Field and make some renovations on 797 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: his own there. So I don't know how valid that is, 798 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,959 Speaker 1: but uh no, I think that there's there is a chance. 799 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, hey, say what you want. 800 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: It's like these are owners. Owners don't like a spend 801 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five million dollars and not be 802 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: able to get anything out of it. And that one 803 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars, I don't think it's 804 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna be able to garner anything from the city of Chicago. 805 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: And so I think there is a decent chance at 806 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: some point they'll move. John, great stuff is usual. We 807 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Keep your funky baby, oh man, As 808 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: you know what, I know what, I might have messed 809 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: this up. We got we got thirty seconds, all right, John, 810 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: tell me what you want to talk about. Okay, we'll 811 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: see what happens with Trevor Lawrence tonight. Rookie quarterbacks right now, 812 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: one in ten more than thirty seven interceptions. They're all 813 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: throwing like a fifty five percent or less and five 814 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: point six yards or less. You are the only quarterback 815 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: that's doing well as far as the numbers are. Mac 816 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: Jones that he's one and two. There it is now, 817 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: I can say it, John, You keep it funky babykay? Thanks? 818 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: All right, have a good night. All right. When we return, 819 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: Mowyer and I will talk that talk this when we 820 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: pick a couple of topics and go at it. We'll 821 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have a good turnaround like they did in 822 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. How good is Matthew Stafford? Will the Hawks 823 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: win twelve games? All that and more? Next right here 824 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: on Hawks Lock, Welcome back to Hawks Live. I and 825 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: Michael Bump is here with Paul Moyer. This is a 826 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: segment where we go into the film room. Paul and 827 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: I love watching film man. It's intriguing. It answers a 828 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of questions and it poses a lot of questions 829 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: at the same time. And this first play, we're gonna 830 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: look at is a thirty yard touchdown by Chris Carson. 831 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: It's second and seven. They're on the Minnesota thirty Paul. 832 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: It's the thirty of the Vikings're gonna turn ahead of Carson. 833 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: Big hole down of the twenty down of fifteen ten 834 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: Don Carsonson touchdown Seahawks Chris Carson into the tunnel. He 835 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: may be heading to Saint Paul. What a run by 836 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: Carson thirty yards for a touchdown. The Seahawks on top 837 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: now sixteen to seven. All right more, This play right 838 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: here is exactly what we expected from the Seahawks when 839 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: they signed Shane Waldon to be their offensive coordinator. We 840 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: want to see some zone. This is nothing but it 841 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: outside zone right here. And I think what makes this 842 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: play go is Dwayne brown Man. He really controls that 843 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: nine tech that stand up rushing there, number forty nine. 844 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: He rushes and takes a wide angle, which really plays 845 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: right into into this whole scheme right here. Dayne Brown goes, 846 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: oh you want to go wide, I'm gonna take you wide. 847 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: I like the way he controls his block, puts his 848 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: right hand and really shoves him to his left. Now 849 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: everyone else is working for the combo you got your 850 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: right guard that's gonna double down on the nose. He's 851 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: gonna try to get up to that linebacker. But it's 852 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: all about flow and getting bodies on bodies. Now the 853 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: Vikings have numbers in the box, there's going to be 854 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: a guy or two that is free. But when you 855 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: can control the line of scrimmage the way Duwayne Brown does, 856 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: kick out that nine technique, open up that lane for 857 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: Chris Carson, the rest is history. And then receivers. We 858 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: got DK metcalf blocking on the third level. You don't 859 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: need to blow guys up there, you just need to 860 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: occupy people. That's exactly what happens. I believe that's Peterson 861 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: that DK is blocking does just enough. And Chris Carson 862 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: showed a burst that we just haven't seen in a while. 863 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that if he hasn't had the opportunity 864 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: to or not, but I haven't seen a burst in 865 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: a while outside zone. This is a staple in this offense. Yeah, 866 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: I mean Dwayne Brown, no question, the kickout or as 867 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: you said, ride the guy where he wants to go 868 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: out wide. I thought Damian Lewis on this was fantastic. 869 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a left guard, and you know the 870 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: tackle and the number ninety one I think was a 871 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: Weatherly or wherever his name was. He's sitting outside of him. 872 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: So Damien has to get off the ball quick, and 873 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: he does, and he hooks him. I mean that's a 874 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: hard that's a hard play to do. I mean, defense 875 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: tax thought never to get hooked that case. He did. 876 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: And then we get to kick out. We get the 877 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: great block by DK the bummers. I think Chris Scott 878 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: one or two more carries after this. I mean, when 879 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: we're running it, we're running it pretty well. The man 880 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: is averaging four point nine yards per carry. So the 881 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: running game has a chance. That's all I'm saying. They 882 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: have a chance. They were down in the second half. 883 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: I think that's why we didn't see much of him. 884 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: But you can't go away from the round right, Tennessee 885 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: was down double digits. I'm not looking. I never questioned. 886 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: I really I don't question play calling. I think it 887 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: is the most overrated thing in the world. I call it, 888 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: you go executed as a player. I don't care if 889 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: I call it ten times in a row. Get it done. 890 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: So I don't ever question play calling. All right, next 891 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: play Kirk Cousins finds Adam Feeling for fifteen yard touchdown 892 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: on third and thirteen. Cousins from the shotgun looks fire 893 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 1: to the back of the ends of falls clock, touchdown Vikings. 894 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: A late flag comes in. Gonna be a helmet to helmet. 895 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: I paid Adam Feeling put the touchdown from fifteen yards out. Feeling, 896 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: who's been really quiet so far in the game today, 897 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: but he is a big target. And that time he 898 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: catches the touchdown pass on the goal line and the 899 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: Vikings now seventeen thirteen with the Seahawks on top. I 900 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: could spend an hour on this play. There's so many 901 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: coaching points on it. First of all, the Seahawks rush five, 902 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: and so we're playing a bit of a high bread 903 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: and that we're rushing five, but we're playing zone behind it. 904 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: That means we've only got three underneath. We're playing three 905 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: deep zone, so the corners are their deep third, We've 906 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: got digs in the middle of the field, and then 907 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: you've got I believe the nickel and Bobby Wagner and 908 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember, and I think Brooks playing the let's 909 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: just say hook the middle in a situation their sports 910 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: was zone off kind of play like quarters. It's kind 911 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: of what you're taught. You crowd the three inside receivers 912 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: when they come out, but as they get down field 913 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: you let them go. In this case, you know, we 914 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: drop We did drop coverage. We rode with the number 915 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: two receiver too long on the side that they throw 916 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: this touchdown on read. You know, his technique's bad. You know, 917 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: he's he stands up, he's a little late in his 918 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: back pedal, and he's not in good position. He gets 919 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: on his heels. So when he makes just that little 920 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: stem outside talking about feeling and then breaks it back 921 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: to the post and what I would call really a seam. 922 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: You throw this so that the safety, the free safety 923 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: can't make a play on it. And that's what they did. 924 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: But the reason why this is there's hope for the Seahawks. 925 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: And now this is third and thirteen, and we play 926 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: this really poorly in so many areas. Now the linebackers 927 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: play or the nickel. The linebackers, we drop a crossrom 928 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: route reads not in his technique is not very good. 929 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, who's blitzing, runs into one of our guys, 930 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: so he doesn't get a free rush at the quarterback. 931 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: So to me, look, we can clean this up. I 932 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: don't love this coverage down here, but if they executed 933 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: it properly and actually all three of the linebackers and 934 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: Nickel dropped and protected the seam in the middle, and 935 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: with us blitzing, we probably get off the field. So 936 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: this is the part where they just keep saying we 937 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: got to clean up, we got to clean up, and 938 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: they do. I mean, they've got to get better. But 939 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: to me, there's that hope that this is just we 940 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: just we can play better than this. Yeah, I'll give 941 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: Feeling some love. You did a good job of widening read. 942 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: He knew that. Look, I'm gonna go inside here. I'm 943 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: a lineup in a tight formation. I'm gonna widen read. 944 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: Not a great route, nothing too special about it. But 945 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: Feeling just has a knack for scoring touchdowns. Man, I 946 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: believe he has four for the year right now. But 947 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: if I'm sitting outside you, okay, so a three deep zone, 948 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: let me tell you the weakness of a three deep zone. 949 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: It's the seam route, ye, right, because I'm playing outside technique. 950 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: Is the corner you're taught in a three deep zone? 951 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: Is you carry seems if you're a linebacker a safety 952 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: and it looks like our nickel is starting to carry 953 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: that scene, but he turns it into a post, you 954 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: gotta let that go. And you're playing a zone too, 955 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: but it looks like it's more a man to man. 956 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: So the weakness of a three D zone you gotta 957 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: carry seems because the safety can't get there in time, 958 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: the corner can't get there to help. In this case, again, 959 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: all he did is he widen or try to widen 960 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: read who's already sitting outside and he's got no help 961 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: and really inside there. So if you're a wide receiver 962 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: in a quarterback and I'm sitting outside, technique, pretty easy 963 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: throw yep, you know. So it's we can be better. 964 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: We can do better, all right. Next play, Darryl Taylor 965 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: strips sacks Kirk Cousins on third and eleven. Third down 966 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: to eleven. Cousins looks outside, falls on the ground stripped away. 967 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: Cousins has to fall on it, and it was Darryl 968 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: Taylor who reaches out on the pass rush as Cousins 969 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: tried to get away from the rush. Nice job by 970 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense. Taylor strips it away, but Cousins gets 971 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: it back and the Vikings will be forced to try 972 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: a field goal with a loss of ten on the 973 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: play man, This is so good man. First, you know, 974 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: so Taylor, I'll just comment real quick on his Taylor's 975 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: on our right side of the offense is left. He's 976 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: in a two point stance. But he's in a sprinter 977 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: two point stance. I mean he does, he doesn't have 978 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: his hand on the ground. His speed rush is that's 979 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: that's as good as you can get. And he's beating 980 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: the left tackle. It gets around the edge. Cousins kind 981 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 1: of feels it and tries to step up and escape 982 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: out to his left, and Taylor reaches out and strips 983 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: the football. That is such an athletic play. What I like. 984 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: You know what frustrated me a little bit was that 985 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of times when Reid was in 986 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: a three point stance. I don't think he's at his 987 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: best in a three point You gotta allow this young 988 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: man to get in that stands you're talking about Taylor. Taylor, Sorry, Taylor, 989 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't like him in a three point stands. There's 990 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times I guess you have to put 991 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: him in or it's schematically, you're supposed to do it 992 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 1: because they have a double tight over there to overload 993 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: the side. I get it. You gotta said Nage. Maybe 994 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: you're stronger in a three point, But I like when 995 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: he's in a two point and he can speed rush 996 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: and use that youth. And what he does he fires 997 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: out the football and he does his little shimmy this 998 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: second week, Yeah, he does that shimmy boom, gets that 999 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: tackle off balance, and now it's just speed and strength. 1000 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: All you need to do is get a Paul on 1001 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. He gets the ball away from him. This 1002 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: is when Darryl Taylor is at his best. I love 1003 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: him in the two point stands. Yeah, but in our 1004 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: right tackle there had a great rush too. And what 1005 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: I like is they took so our defensive tackle rushed 1006 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: inside of their guard. And so why is that important? 1007 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: Because it gives Taylor space he can go either beat 1008 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: him on a speed rush outside or he does this 1009 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: little shimmy you talked about. He can actually come inside 1010 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: if the guy gets too wide, and that's because there's 1011 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: no guard there to chip him along the way. So 1012 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: I like that. Look, I think our pass rush is there. 1013 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: We just got to tighten things up to the secondary, 1014 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: so the quarterback has to pull it down. That's what 1015 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: happened here. The quarterback look he had to pull it 1016 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: down just for a second. He tried to escape. Taylor 1017 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: gets a sack and strip fumble. It's beautiful when it 1018 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: all comes together if you can get Daylor Taylor going 1019 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: that defensive line, the backers dropping into the zones. There's 1020 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: opposed to corners keeping levage. They're gonna be all right. 1021 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: But we shall see this week. Okay, when we return, 1022 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: we'll go around the NFL. Man Mina Kimes goes in 1023 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. Is there a QB battle in San 1024 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: fran Head coach is not having that? And was Lebron 1025 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: James almost a Seahawk? All that? Next, right here on 1026 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: Hawks Line, Welcome back to Hawks Live. Michael Bump is 1027 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: hanging out with Paul Moyer. Now it's time to go 1028 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Now there's a resident analysts called or called. 1029 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: Her name is Mena comes, great analysts, but she went 1030 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: in on the Seahawk defense. Let's hear it. Do you 1031 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: got any little cross Stephen? I will say I was 1032 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: too optimistic about Seattle. I will say that the defense 1033 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: has been worse than I thought. I don't believe the 1034 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: offense for much. They have had some second applosions, a 1035 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: game script has really messed with them on offense. The 1036 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: defense has been an abject disaster, frankly, and you've seen 1037 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: the meltdown now twice. I think we realize now that 1038 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: the Colt's offense is just simply not good at all. 1039 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: They can't cover major issues in the secondary. It's simplistic scheme. 1040 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: And if this team wants to compete for a wild 1041 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: card spot, I do not think they have a chance 1042 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: of winning the division right now. Given how the Rams 1043 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: are playing, they got to get something fixed on defense. 1044 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: They gotta get more of a pass rush. So they 1045 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: do have serious issues. As buddy Paul Moyer once said, um, well, 1046 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: here's what she is doing. Though she's she's um, it's 1047 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 1: three games and she's looking at statistics, right, so she goes, 1048 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 1: they got to get a pass rush. Our pass rush 1049 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: is fine, you guys. We we got to tighten up 1050 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: pass defense and give those guys a chance to do it. 1051 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: But you know, again, after three games, which she's looking 1052 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: at statistically, what she's saying is if she's on ESPN 1053 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: trying to make a story she's she's accurate. I mean, look, 1054 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: we're two games behind the Rams, who are playing great defensively. 1055 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be better. It hasn't been obviously the 1056 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: first three games. So I think what she had to 1057 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: say is, you know, I'm I'm not arguing with her, 1058 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: but I am saying that she's taken way too big 1059 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: of a you know, thirty thousand foot view looking at 1060 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: statistics and not actually looking at the game. I don't 1061 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: know she has a point. Well, I don't think she 1062 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: has a point at all. On the pass rush, well, 1063 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: I look at the pass rush, and last game we 1064 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: had one sack right, two or three quarterback hits. That 1065 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: pass rush didn't force Cousins to make any mistakes. Thirty 1066 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: or thirty eight three touchdowns. There was a one pass 1067 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: that this pass rush for said. We were like, oh man, 1068 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: oh I was a close one. We looked at that 1069 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: strip sacked by Darrell Taylor. But other than that, I 1070 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: can't think of any play where Kirk Cousins looked flustered 1071 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: and made a poor decision. All right, So let me 1072 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: ask you this. Do you think he was back there 1073 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: just patting the ball, So that that thirty what was 1074 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: just statistics again, thirty just throughout their cousins or whatever 1075 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 1: it is now thirty thirty eight. Do you think that's 1076 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: because of the pass rush. I think it's all connected. Yeah, 1077 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: I just again, I don't think it's because of the 1078 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: I remember there's I remember, you know, I remember on 1079 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: there was a fourth down play that he completed where 1080 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: they brought the house and he stood there, he threw 1081 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball. He got hit, honestly, and you know, we 1082 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: watched the games. You've watched the game. You remember watching 1083 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: that game and thinking, Okay, Cousins, it's back. They're working. 1084 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: Of course, he's gonna have to move in the pocket. 1085 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: That's what quarterbacks have to do. Right. But I'm not 1086 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: saying this password is horrible, But I'm saying that last game, 1087 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Kirk Cousins was uncomfortable. No. Again, I 1088 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: think the balls coming out there's a lot of hitch routes. Again, Flowers, 1089 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: you know, seven catches for seventy eight yards. That's not 1090 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: why we lost. You know, those are those are hitch routes. 1091 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, if we're to me, it's part of the 1092 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: defense we're playing. And this goes back to last year. 1093 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: I said, you have to help this line out. You've 1094 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: got to play tight. You've got to take away their 1095 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: primary throw. And that's pattern recognition. That's playing things tighter. 1096 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: Even if it's zone, it's matchup zone, and we're just 1097 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: gonna spot drop. For the twenties, they're gonna ping ping, 1098 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: ping us all day long. Plus how many screens did 1099 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: they run on us? They're going to complete screens. So 1100 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: when you look at his yard, I look at the 1101 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: yard Seahawks yards per attempt at passing defensively, I mean again, 1102 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: we're twentieth, We're they're like seven point eight, seven point nine. 1103 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: It's it's not atrocious. So to me, you tighten that up. 1104 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: You give now our guys a chance to get there 1105 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: because I think our pass rush is good and will 1106 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: be good. So that's all I'm saying. So it's be 1107 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: my only argument. Yeah, that's what we're saying is because 1108 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: of the coverage, they're able to get the football out quickly. 1109 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: Therefore there is no pass rus because that doesn't matter. 1110 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: We're not going back may. If the bass coming out 1111 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: one eight, you know, two, that's pretty tough to get pressure. 1112 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: Makes sense, all right, Kyle Shanahan has been consistent and 1113 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: once again makes it clear that there is no quarterback 1114 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: battle in San franc There's not a quarterback battle right now. 1115 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: I mean we're going with our starting quarterback. I think 1116 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: he's playing very well. Happy that he is, so Trey 1117 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: is not thrown into any situations he has to do 1118 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: too early. Um if he ever has thrown into that, 1119 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: and then I know Trey will deal with that and 1120 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: he'll get better as it goes. But it's not. We 1121 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: have a luxury where we don't have to do that 1122 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: yet to Trey or to our team, so hopefully we 1123 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: won't have to. He's pretty much saying Jimmy is there guy, 1124 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: and then he doubles downs on that as trays our 1125 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: back quarterback. I mean, this isn't the preseason. We're not 1126 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: just going back and forth all the time. I mean 1127 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: Tray goes in for specific plays or things we want 1128 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: to do. Treys week in and week outis I mean, 1129 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: he gets better each week, the more reps he gets 1130 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: on scout team and stuff like that. But there's not 1131 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: a big decision going into that each week. If we 1132 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: put in a game plan for our starting quarterback, the 1133 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: backup needs to be able to do all of that 1134 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: if he gets hurt. And what's cool about Trey is 1135 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 1: because of his different skill set, we always keep him 1136 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: alive with a couple plays on situations. He sounds annoyed, 1137 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: but he shouldn't be. It's funny. I was thinking the 1138 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: same thing, but he shouldn't be. You guys trade it 1139 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: up to get the third pick in the draft, gave 1140 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: a ransom for it, and so you're always going to 1141 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: have those questions because you trade it up for it. 1142 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: So they shouldn't be perturbed or frustrated with that question. 1143 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,479 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. But I think there's a point 1144 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: where you go, look, Jimmy's our guy. We are gonna 1145 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: sit Trey all year. Trade not playing, you play some 1146 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: specialty trays. Not ready, Trey's what twenty twenty one years old. 1147 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: He didn't play last year. He hadn't played enough football. 1148 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: Trey is gonna be pretty good. I mean, we see 1149 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: that skill set, but there's more than just a good 1150 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: arm and athletic ability to be a great quarterback in 1151 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: the NFL. And right now he's learning. He's going to 1152 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 1: sit for this year, probably not next year, but maybe 1153 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, and Jimmy is more than capable. They have 1154 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: a better chance of going to the super Bowl or 1155 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: win a division or making the playoffs with Jimmy than 1156 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 1: they do Trey. And it's not like they're in a 1157 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: life or death situation right now. Shanahan's got some time. 1158 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: They got some young talent, they got Deebo, they got 1159 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: Brandon I you, George Killa ain't going nowhere. They got time, 1160 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: they don't have to force. It's not like they're in 1161 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: Chicago where Shanahan is playing for his job right now, 1162 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: like Naggie is coaching for his job right now. That's 1163 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: not the situation in San Francisco. The only reason why 1164 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: I want Trey Lance to start is because I predicted 1165 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: he'd beat the starter by week four. I just want 1166 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: to be right. Yeah, I want Trey Lance to start 1167 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: because I think we have a better chance to beat them. 1168 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: I did. I'll play a rookie quarterback all day, be 1169 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: very happy about it. Yep, all right, no controversy. In 1170 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: San Franzmena Kimes goes in on the Seahawks. Morier believes 1171 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: the past Russia is okay. When we come back, we'll 1172 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: put a ball on this thing show recap, final thoughts 1173 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: right here on Hawks Line. Welcome back to Hawks Live 1174 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: every Thursday, seven to nine. We're close to the the end 1175 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: of the show, Man we are. I get a little 1176 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: shout out. My nephew got married this past weekend. Eric 1177 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: and Aaron, congratulations, that was awesome. And my mother, who 1178 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: wasn't there, she's listening right now. She says, I yell 1179 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: on this show, do you so? I just want to 1180 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: make sure I didn't yell today. So what's up mom? 1181 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure she's listening all right. Well, 1182 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: the Hawks are looking to bounce back right lost thirty 1183 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: to seventeen to the Vikings. There are some things they 1184 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: need to fix, Morris says. The past Russia is fine, 1185 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: they need to fit more on the back end. Offensively, 1186 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: they need to come out hot, get a lead, and 1187 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: keep a lead. I think that's been the knock for 1188 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: or the Seahawks. When it comes to offense. You can 1189 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: focus on the defense. They given up these yards. Not 1190 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: good against the run, not good against the pass. Offensively, 1191 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: get a lead, keep a league. One hundred and seventy 1192 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: one times they've had double digits leads and ten times 1193 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: they've lost two have been this year. They need to 1194 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: fix that. They do um defensively. If this can be 1195 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: a tough game, it's a tough running game. You know, 1196 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: they got those fly suites with Samuel Lewis. I think 1197 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: he's only had four of those so far this year, 1198 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: which kind of surprises me. You got the best tight 1199 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: end in the game, I believe. Again, Kelsey is awfully good. 1200 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: But Kittle is that guy that will hurt you. You know, 1201 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: you got a man you can put big boy pads 1202 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: and you also gotta have your little boy pads because 1203 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: you gotta cover them too, So you gotta you gotta 1204 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: have both. But here's the one thing we must do 1205 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: and we are going to be better. Well, when you 1206 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: hit rock bottom, to me, we hit rock bottom quickly 1207 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: on defense. You you start building back up and you 1208 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: correct those things. We got to make teams one dimensional. 1209 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: We're not doing that right now. They're running it and 1210 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: throw it and so we got bottom line, we gotta 1211 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: take away the run. I mean, we got to find 1212 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: a way to stop it, and you know, hopefully we 1213 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: play some tight defense behind it. We know Jimmy Garoppolo 1214 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: so well, we should know where he's going to throw 1215 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: the football. So to me, it's definitely the running game. 1216 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: Stop it Kittle, got to keep an eye on him 1217 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah, and just go play football. Man. 1218 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: You guys have been doing this since you've been in 1219 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: youth football. You guys know how to play. We got 1220 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: a ton of talent. This isn't rocket science stuff out there, 1221 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: and so just just let it loose and go play. 1222 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: And I think last year that's what they finally end 1223 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: up doing. We got too many good players, too many. Yeah, 1224 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: stop the run. You got a rookie running back, Tray 1225 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: Sermon back there. Scored his first touchdown last week as 1226 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: a professional. But it seems like whoever the nine has 1227 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: put back there, eventually they get going. It'd be nice 1228 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: to take advantage of that youth that they have out there. 1229 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Jimmy Garoppolo. You said a couple of 1230 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: segments ago he likes to throw the ball in between 1231 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: the numbers. A big reason for that is Deebo Samuel, 1232 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in the league right now. 1233 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I think he leaves the league in receiving yards three 1234 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: hundred thirty four yards one touchdown. You have to wrap 1235 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: this guy up because they're gonna throw a screens them. 1236 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna run that jest suite, throw screens to him. 1237 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: We've seen how the Hawks have played the screens. Not 1238 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: the best against the screens, No, I mean Minnesota random. 1239 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: You know early and often, and you know, screens are 1240 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: tough against his zone. You're you're dropping deep and then 1241 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get these linemen that you 1242 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: know get out in front. It's tough. I mean, screens 1243 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: used to scare me to death as a coach, because 1244 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather be in a man to man 1245 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: situation with a robber. I used to play a lot 1246 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: with a call cover eleven where we played manned up, 1247 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: had a guy freed up in the middle of takeaway 1248 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: crossing routes and slants and so screens is great because 1249 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: you can attack that before the lineman can get to you. 1250 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: We've got to play him better than We've got to 1251 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: recognize him better. And that's the fundamentals too. When we're 1252 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: on his zone and all of sudden we turn our 1253 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: back to the football not good zone, keep your ear 1254 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: on the quarterback field and receive everybody gets some depth, 1255 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: squeeze people and then start reacting to those things. So 1256 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough game. It's a forty nine ers, right, 1257 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: it's on the road. Uh, they're a Namasavars. The good 1258 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: news they're not playing well either. They you know, they 1259 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: beat Detroit by eight, they beat what was our next 1260 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: one by seventeen to eleven, and the last week, you know, 1261 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: they lose a heartbreaker to Green Bay. So they're not 1262 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: playing great. They're not a dominant defense, even though they 1263 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: got Nick Bosa and arms. They got some players now, 1264 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: but their secondaries really beat up. So I think offensively 1265 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: we should have our way with them. I want to 1266 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: see one. I want to see how Tyler Locke is doing. 1267 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Right his knee got twisted up last week? Or one 1268 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: he came back and play. Yeah, he came back and play, 1269 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: But you know how that goes, man, You come back, 1270 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: your adrenaline is going, and then you're sore throughout the week. 1271 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 1: What do we know on that NASA? Do we know anything? Well? 1272 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: We do know is even though it looked like it 1273 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: was his knee, he's on the injury report for a 1274 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: hip hit. Really so I know, well, honestly after his recovery, 1275 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, his his legs and bones are like Jello 1276 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Man because the rest of us would have torn everything 1277 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: up in that knee. But it went down as his hip. 1278 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: But he was a limited participant in Actually he did 1279 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: not practice today with the hip. But I think he's 1280 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Pete seemed optimistic about him, so not 1281 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: worried about him. The guys each want to worry about 1282 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: is Brandon Schell, who didn't practice on Thursday as well 1283 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: as we shot Penny. Dwayne Astridge was a limited participant 1284 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: in practice, so that's a good sign, and everyone else 1285 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: would be good to go. Protection has been pretty good 1286 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: for us, you know, even without Shell last week. You know, 1287 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about our offensive line now that 1288 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis is healthy. He looked good last week. Yeah, 1289 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the offense really hasn't been the problem, you know. I mean, 1290 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: we may need to score forty at times until we 1291 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: get it done, but I think thirty is the magic 1292 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: number until our defense really starts to feel good about themselves. Yeah, 1293 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: and I think this week the message had to be 1294 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: on defense. Let's just all be on the same page, 1295 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: because there are times where we look and it's like 1296 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: this guy looks like he's a man. These other guys 1297 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: are in zone, and that just comes down to communication 1298 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 1: and understanding. So I hope tell the truth, Monday was 1299 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: one of those good ones, you know, where you know 1300 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 1: last year what they do, everyone stood up, they talked 1301 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: about their responsibilities and really put it out there for 1302 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: everyone to know and here, and then the next week 1303 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: they bounced back. That's why I'm optimistic, because we've seen 1304 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: these guys do it before, right, We've seen them play 1305 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: horribly on defense and then come back and play good 1306 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: enough to win ball games. And you should lean on 1307 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,479 Speaker 1: this offense. You should lean on future Hall of Famer. 1308 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: You should lean on the best duo, one of the 1309 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: best duos in the NFL. You should lean on a 1310 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: running back who has was like seventh or eighth since 1311 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when it comes on a hundred 1312 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: yard rushing games. Right, yeah, no, I yeah, the offense 1313 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: is certainly clicking better right now. We were talking earlier. 1314 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, if I've ever been in a situation where 1315 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, fingers were pointing and people were confused defensively, 1316 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: and if maybe even question the scheme and you know, 1317 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: coaches and what I'm supposed to do, and I never 1318 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: really had that except for one year and it was 1319 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: short lived. We had come off nineteen eighty four, you know, 1320 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: the historical year where we had forced like sixty three turnovers, 1321 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: which isn't really an NFL modern day record, never be broken. 1322 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: And we go into an eighty five all the same guys. 1323 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all veteran guys. We're picked to be 1324 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: the we're the Super Bowl sexy pick that year because 1325 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: we came off a twelve and four year. We got 1326 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Kurt warnerback or running back. We had missed him the 1327 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: whole year. Defensively, we were unbelievable and we are struggling. Defensively, 1328 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: we were busting all over the place and we had 1329 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: a complex defense back then, a lot of three on 1330 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: two combos and really you know, a lot of practice. 1331 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: It was hard for quarterbacks. But now we're struggling. And 1332 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I remember going into a meeting just us DBS and 1333 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: the dB coach and it was some yelling and you know, 1334 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: gloves were coming off type thing, you know point. But 1335 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: by time we got out of it, we were hugging. 1336 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, hey, we're gonna get this right. It's no 1337 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: one person's fault. We got a tension to detail coach. 1338 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Now here's the things we like. You know, maybe we're 1339 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: doing too much with all the motion. So I think 1340 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna get there. Because game, when you have a 1341 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,439 Speaker 1: terrible game like they had last week, you start building things, 1342 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: you start listening to the coaches on the finer details. 1343 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping that's the case this week. Yeah, 1344 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping it is too. I think it's gonna be. Man. 1345 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: These guys are pros, and they've shown they can do it. 1346 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: This group has shown that they can do it. So 1347 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic. Man, I'm optimistic. Now. I want to see, 1348 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: like I said, get a lead, keep a lead, and 1349 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: allow Chris Carson to be a factor throughout the whole 1350 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: game and not just the first half. I mean, I 1351 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: know it has to be frustrating for him to get 1352 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: into that second half and not get the rock, but 1353 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: as a professional, he probably understands, Look, we're down X 1354 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: amount of points. I'm probably not going to touch the football. 1355 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and bring Travis Homer in and have 1356 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: him be the pass pro extraordinary that he is. But 1357 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: thirty two has to be a factor throughout this whole game. 1358 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: The whole game. I don't even care if we get behind. 1359 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: To me, we saw what Tennessee did do us. You know, 1360 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,919 Speaker 1: if you just say, okay, I'm behind the I'm gonna 1361 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: throw now, man, that changes what I'm calling defensively, and 1362 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I am coming after you with a bunch of different 1363 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: exotic blitzes, and that's not what you want. So I'm 1364 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 1: gonna ask you a quick question. I asked John Clayton earlier. Okay, 1365 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,959 Speaker 1: you hate to say must win, particularly in the fourth game. 1366 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Must win. This is a must win. This is intense, 1367 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm coming into this game more anxious than I 1368 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: usually am, just because I'm always anxious on Sundays when 1369 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: we do our show. But this is a must win. 1370 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: You go down one, three, three, You're two games behind 1371 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: at least everyone in your division, and everyone else's bawling 1372 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: getting it done. I mean, it's it's gonna be tough 1373 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 1: to climb out of this. Well, then you got two rams, 1374 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, four days later on Thursday. I agree. I 1375 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: don't like saying must wins. You can certainly climb your 1376 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: way out of it. I think this division is too 1377 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: tough to climb out of it. I'm gonna throw one 1378 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: out there too. I think this is a must win. 1379 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Because you've got to feel good about yourself. When the 1380 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Rams come in, you gotta be two and two with 1381 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: a chance to strike on them, be a game back, 1382 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe tied if they lose it. So, yeah, it's huge. 1383 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I'll use huge. It's a huge game. Huge, It's just big. 1384 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: It's just big as the Mariners. The next three weeks, first, 1385 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: next three games. All right, let's have a great weekend, 1386 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: Let's Mariners make the playoffs, Seahawks win, get ready for 1387 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night football against the Rams. Well, here's what I'm 1388 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna leave everyone with. Okay, before we get out, optimism. 1389 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: You want something to feel good about, Seahawk fans, I'm 1390 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what to feel good about. So, if 1391 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: you've been with us the whole show, Paul was looking 1392 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: for a stat in the first segment, I corrected him 1393 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: about the one and two record. Thing he talked about, 1394 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: who puts a show sheet together and whatnot. I'm looking 1395 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: back at the notes from the first segment. What you 1396 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 1: were looking for, Paul, And this is why everyone needs 1397 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: to feel good. Russell Wilson, since he's been in Seattle 1398 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: has never never lost three games in a row. Never. 1399 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: The only time the Seahawks have started winning three was 1400 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: in last time at least was in two thousan eleven 1401 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: before Rustcott here. So if you want something to feel 1402 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: good about, Russell Wilson has never lost three games in 1403 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: a row and it's not going to start on Sunday. 1404 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: And once the game starts, we don't bring that up. 1405 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: But it's like saying a guy in the ninth things 1406 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: got to know, get her going. We just we talk 1407 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: about it. Now once a game starts, we want to 1408 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: bring that up again. Okay, can we talk about the pregame? 1409 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, but once the game starts, there it is. 1410 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Russ has never lost three in a row. It's not 1411 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: going down this weekend, man, Let's get out of here special. 1412 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Nick Wagner, Robert Kndici, and John Claim for 1413 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,919 Speaker 1: joining the show, our board operator Brady Robic, our executive 1414 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: producer Nasa Choby. The Seahawks Pregame Show was live this 1415 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Sunday starting at ten am. Until next time. I'm your 1416 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: host Michael Bumps with Paul Moyer. We'll be back next 1417 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: week right here on Hawks Lot