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Speaker 4: This is going to be the dream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have a lot to cover. It seems

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Speaker 2: like three hours is a lot. Believe me, it's a

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Speaker 2: is going to be joining us later on the show,

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Speaker 2: not only with Major League Baseball talk, but a little

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Speaker 3: So with VD and I would text each.

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Speaker 2: Other, and after day two of the draft, I texted

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Speaker 2: VJ one line. I said, a couple of tough days

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Speaker 2: of saying, you'll get my response on Sunday. So, my friend,

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Speaker 2: it is all yours. I want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on what just transpired in this year's NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: Well as always, Man, it's always great to be here

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Speaker 5: with you, partner, Man, Hartman and Husky, all of our

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Speaker 5: great Fox Sports radio listeners lands out there, Man, VJ,

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Speaker 5: Riws get big of another funny in the build, then.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 5: Like Steve said, we got a long day today, so

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Speaker 5: let's let's get right to us. So I'm not gonna

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tip too a rodit so I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: dive right into it. Everybody that listens to the show

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Speaker 5: knows me, follows me, knows that I support coach Prime,

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Speaker 5: always have when he was a player, uh going into

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Speaker 5: to Jackson State and then on the Colorado, pulling for

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Speaker 5: Shiloh Chador Travis Hunter, the whole nine. So I always

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Speaker 5: catch a lot of flak for my support for Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 5: but what I what I just saw was one of

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Speaker 5: the most egregious and one of the most bs and

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Speaker 5: one of the most typical business middle American things that

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Speaker 5: I've ever seen in sports. And a lot of people

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Speaker 5: aren't gonna like what I'm gonna say right now. But

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Speaker 5: my my, my whole thing is just tell me where

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Speaker 5: I'm lying. If you even not like what I say,

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Speaker 5: that that's fine. I don't do this business to get

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Speaker 5: people to like what I'm saying. I like thought provoking

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Speaker 5: sports talk, and we can agree to disagree and have

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Speaker 3: That's how I get down. So just tell me where

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Speaker 3: I'm lying.

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Speaker 5: Though, because the first point I want to throw at

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Speaker 5: is you tell me the last time someone was projected

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Speaker 3: Some point the number one overall pick to fall like that.

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Speaker 5: You tell me the last time that a guy was

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Speaker 5: going out here and throwing for four hundred yards in

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Speaker 5: college at a big time university, in big time games,

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Speaker 5: with the spotlight on him, with all the attention on him.

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Speaker 3: This isn't Timmy Chang, who no one saw play at Hawaii.

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Speaker 5: This isn't Graham Harrold, who nobody watched play at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever watched the Graham Harrold Texas

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Speaker 5: the time. Why the hell would I be watching Graham

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Speaker 3: But we watched you, Dors Sanders. We tune into Colorado,

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Speaker 3: so the world saw.

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Speaker 5: So the world saw four thirty seven, four fifty five

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Speaker 5: these games where he's pinpoint passing, avoiding the rush, getting

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Speaker 3: That's my first point.

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Speaker 5: So I want to know the last time someone that

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Speaker 3: Got some confidence. So that'll be my next point.

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Speaker 5: Because we're still living in the age, especially in sports,

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Speaker 5: and bugs me because I've never heard Shadir curse. Hear

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Speaker 5: I didn't see Shadur grab his crotch toward the other

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Speaker 3: During the game.

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Speaker 5: Like, so, I didn't see Shador Sanders do anything wrong.

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Speaker 5: He's got no criminal record, he's never been in trouble.

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Speaker 5: He's never cussed out the media. He's never done these

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Speaker 3: He didn't drive a car and kill anybody. He doesn't

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have any arrests, he doesn't have any assault,

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Speaker 5: he doesn't have any domessics.

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Speaker 3: The man follows God. He's a Christian, his dad. All

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Speaker 3: he does is full with confidence. But what the hell did.

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Speaker 5: You expect you was gonna get out of the kid

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Speaker 5: who was birth from Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 3: What'd you expect you were gonna get him?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I just want to come in and

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Speaker 3: Getting a hard worker in it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all that stuff that people say in these first

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Speaker 5: Go out and flop their asset of the NFL. This

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Speaker 5: idea that this was just Oh, Dad, you put the

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Speaker 3: If you so, then why in the hell were the

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Speaker 3: scouts saying he was a top five pick and probably

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Speaker 3: the first overall pick until the combine started, which my

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Speaker 3: illustrious party, who I respect fully sitting to my left,

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Speaker 3: have been talking about since the combine because he started

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Speaker 3: to speak because he doesn't actually need your NFL money,

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Speaker 3: he really does it. His dad is rich, he had

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Speaker 3: See the NFL in people.

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Speaker 5: They want certain people from certain backgrounds who have to

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Speaker 5: grovel to come to you, gravel and beg Yes, please

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Speaker 5: take me because I'm from the trailer park. Please take

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Speaker 5: me because I gotta save my family. Please take me

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Speaker 3: You're not used to someone not really needing you and

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Speaker 3: letting you know, hey, if you want to win, I'm confident.

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Speaker 5: I'm not coming in with this bes humble crap. I'm confident,

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Speaker 5: but I'm a man of God. What is your door

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Speaker 5: Sanders done to fall like that that? We've seen other

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Speaker 5: We have assault charges versus women in college, domestic issues,

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Speaker 5: all types of stuff, and you still get dressed and

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna stop there. I'm getting

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't want Okay, Okay, I'm gonna. I'm

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Speaker 2: It's a culture. Things stand well, Okay, let's let's let's

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Speaker 2: look at the dynamic here. Because of all the stories

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Speaker 2: that came out about his interview with Brian Dabel and

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Speaker 2: the Giants, which, by the way, today Brian Dabel is

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Speaker 2: saying the reports that came from Todd McShay about that

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Speaker 2: is done and he got the quarterback he wanted. Remember this,

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Speaker 2: you're Brian Dabel. You have been given a reprieve to

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Speaker 2: coach another year with the Giants. You failed with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: You told us this is the guy we gained forty

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Speaker 2: be the quarterback we.

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Speaker 3: Thought he was going to be for fifteen. So now you.

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Speaker 2: Have one chance to get the quarterback you want. My

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Speaker 2: guess what Shador was this is that you're Brian Dabel.

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Speaker 2: You've got to pick the quarterback that is going to

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Speaker 2: do what you want to do. You just talked about

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders in reasons that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need the NFL.

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Speaker 2: This is a kid who, because of his father, has

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Speaker 2: lived a life of privilege. It doesn't mean he hasn't

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Speaker 2: worked hard and it doesn't mean he hasn't busted his

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Speaker 2: But he has lived a life of privilege because of

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Speaker 2: who his father is. That's just a fact. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that indeed, if Brian Dabel had presented him something

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Speaker 2: And basically the way it was presented is Brian Dabel's

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Speaker 2: sitting with this young quarterback saying, hey, I want to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this, and Shador, who's only been

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Speaker 2: coached by one man, his father, has said, no, I

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Speaker 2: don't need to do that. I mean you got you

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Speaker 3: Why am I doing that? You believe that?

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Speaker 2: I believe to some not to that degree, but I

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Speaker 2: believe there was a certain something there where Brian Dabel

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Speaker 2: was like, look, I'm not your father. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I want to do them. I don't think Chador is

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent comfortable with that. I know Brian Dabele

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Speaker 2: was not comfortable with that, and so that's why Brian dialble.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't account for the other teams.

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Speaker 2: So my feeling on this entire thing is the irony

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Speaker 2: of this whole situation. Because you said he didn't need

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Speaker 2: the money. You're right, he doesn't need the money. So

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Speaker 2: whether the Cleveland Browns selected him second overall or one

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty fourth overall does not change the fact

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Speaker 2: that the only two guys he has to beat out

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Speaker 2: to be quarterback is Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel, and

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Speaker 2: he's the best quarterback of those three guys. So the

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Speaker 2: irony in this entire situation, with his unprecedented fault, there's

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Speaker 2: never you were saying, when's the last, It's never happened, never, never,

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Speaker 2: never number one also one forty four, okay, never unless

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Speaker 2: there was some kind of scandal.

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Speaker 3: But even with that, even with that, like like you know.

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Speaker 2: Like Randy Moss wore sunglasses at the Heisman Sarah and

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Speaker 2: he dropped him down the drop, but he was still

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Speaker 2: in the first round. Aaron Rodgers still in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Most of these guys are cosmoke you weed it Pitt

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Speaker 2: exactly and so you know, but not all the way

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Speaker 2: down to one forty five. So the irony of all

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Speaker 2: this is is that this could actually work beautifully for Shudur.

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Speaker 2: The difference is instead of getting first round money, he'll

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Speaker 2: be getting fifth round money. But it doesn't change the

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Speaker 2: fact that he's going to a team that needs a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and right now, the way I look at it, he's

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the room.

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Speaker 3: So he is going to get.

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Speaker 2: That opportunity to be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: which a lot of people had thought maybe they would

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Speaker 2: take him second overall. Well, they took him one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty fourth overall. The only addition is Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: He certainly should be able to beat him out. So

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Speaker 5: I appreciate the optimism, but that's not what this is

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Speaker 3: But that's what Well. Look, he's in the league.

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Speaker 5: He should be happy to be there, or he's got

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Speaker 3: We'll not throw his name out there, and said, what

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Speaker 7: Give me something NFL football wise that the talking head

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Speaker 7: it is easier to get rid of you. Your leash

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Speaker 3: But they're not going to get rid of you realize that,

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Speaker 2: You saw the reaction in the draft room. You saw Stefanski,

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Speaker 2: We already took our quarterback, now we're taking another one.

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Speaker 2: The word was it's a has who has a friendship

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Speaker 3: They are a mess. But how many teams think about this?

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Speaker 2: So I mean the shockers are all over the place.

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Speaker 3: I told you they would move the Jaguars, I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Saints taking the guy. Oh god,

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Speaker 3: Here's what we got to do on this whole thing,

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Speaker 3: VG. I really don't. But my point is, let's let's

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Speaker 2: Look, he was during the during all of this, he

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Speaker 2: Is is a great father and Dion's a great father.

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Speaker 2: As a father, you're doing everything you can to help

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Speaker 2: He signed with Tampa Bay. He'll get an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about jobs security. Here's the thing. Talent wins

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Speaker 3: Steve, who's successful there, right, Bernie, We're gonna go back

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Speaker 2: Well, look again, you can change the dynamic.

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Speaker 3: Who was successful at New England before Tom Brady?

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Speaker 2: But you're talking about this, Yeah, but who was in

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Speaker 3: Helps to have Bill Belichick as your coat? Well, help

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Speaker 3: did you hear about the Belichick interview to that? Of course?

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Speaker 3: Of course what is up with that? Up with him?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I want to keep it.

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Speaker 2: Want to interview on CBS network and I'm asking, so,

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Speaker 3: And she steps in and goes, we're not going there

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Speaker 5: I call him be a B. Double do your day, homie.

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Speaker 5: Don't let the world tell you what to do. You

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Speaker 3: Wow? Hey ab double wow you play. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, we got a lot around to government. We

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Speaker 3: We're gonna break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Of your screen. All right, keep an eye right now.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks off to the early lead, and of course

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Speaker 2: this would be the death knell of the Pistons. They're

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Speaker 2: and you know, obviously they get a superstar talent. It's

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Speaker 3: But they need eyeballs. So let me ask you this,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, he's that kind of player, And that's the kind

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Speaker 3: Your team's picked, Your.

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Speaker 5: Team's picked, Your team's picked, and the ratings will be

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Speaker 3: So that's what you.

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Speaker 5: The thing is, this kid's both in one. You either

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Speaker 5: I've never met anybody that's indifferent on him. You either

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Speaker 3: You can't play both ways because, first of all, the

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Speaker 5: Coaches are just afraid to do it because players are

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Speaker 2: Why do you think a kid that was considered the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely because Deon Sanders said you can do it, yes,

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Speaker 2: because Deon Sanders said, I know I've done it. I

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Speaker 5: But there's something in him that he had when I

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Speaker 5: what he's done. That's what Travis hunter is Jacksonville. This

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Speaker 5: Now you're playing well. Now you're playing both ways against

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Speaker 3: Look, damn near could have been a number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville said, oh no, no, no, we're gonna go get this kid.

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Speaker 2: what they told show. Hey, o'tani, you can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Right, you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: It can't be a starting pitcher. And then on your

442
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Speaker 2: off days be a D. You can't do it. Christy

443
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Speaker 2: home runs right, you know, and then when he can't pitch,

444
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Speaker 2: it only is a DH. He's still a fifty to

445
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Speaker 2: fifty guy. So, I mean, there are certain athletes that

446
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Speaker 2: transcend all others.

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Speaker 3: I agree that.

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Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter has that opportunity. I hope he does.

449
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Speaker 2: I hope he can stay healthy. Look, I was there

450
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of bo Jackson, do you have a

451
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Speaker 2: no parable was ask Jackson is playing major league baseball

452
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Speaker 2: for an entire season, no offseason in football. He's playing

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Speaker 2: full time major league baseball. He would show up in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the year. And I told you the

455
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Speaker 2: first practice he had with us in nineteen eighty seven,

456
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Speaker 2: we were all obviously we're excited. We still couldn't believe

457
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Speaker 2: it was happening. It's October. We needed a spark, and

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Speaker 2: he shows up. He literally had not played football.

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Speaker 3: In two years, two years. And so we're out on

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Speaker 3: the practice field.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching this guy and how he was you know,

462
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Speaker 2: how long was one of our star players? And you know,

463
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Speaker 2: we practice was over and I said, you know, I

464
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Speaker 2: know what I'm seeing, but you're on the field.

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing? He goes, this guy's on a

466
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Speaker 3: different play.

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Speaker 2: He's a two hundred and thirty pound backs was running

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Speaker 2: at four two forty and just showed up. And so

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Speaker 2: and then and he did a year after year after

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Speaker 2: year until the career and injury. And that's that's the

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Speaker 2: scary part, you know, you don't you know, Bo Jackson,

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Speaker 2: had he only played football, would be in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, if he only played baseball, could be in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. But he was creating something he'd

475
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Speaker 2: just never been done before, and he became this huge

476
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Speaker 2: celebrity deservely. So I just hope for Travis Hunter's sake

477
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Speaker 2: that we can see this playout as we've seen.

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Speaker 3: It with Show.

479
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Speaker 2: Hey, now we don't even know Show he's ever going

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Speaker 2: to pitch for the Dodgers. I mean, they keep kicking

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Speaker 2: that can down the road. But you know, but they're like, well,

482
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Speaker 2: do we really need him to pitch? Look what he

483
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Speaker 2: just did as a hitter. I mean, we won the

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Speaker 2: World Series. He goes fifteen to fifty. So I just

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Speaker 2: hope he does stay healthy. So we'll see how that

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Speaker 2: plays out. But on Cleveland's end of it, if Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: does not have a good year, look a look at

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Speaker 2: the draft stock Cleveland has going into next year, which,

489
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Speaker 2: by the way, we don't know what kind of quarterback

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Speaker 2: arch Manning is going to be. We've been hearing about

491
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Speaker 2: it for two years. Ironically, the guy that kept him

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Speaker 2: on the bench barely made it into this draft. As

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Speaker 2: a seventh round pick by the Miami Dolphins. He was

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth quarterback. Take a Quinn yours thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: I tried to mean so, but he kept him on

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Speaker 3: the well, he kept he kept him on the bench.

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Speaker 3: He said in Charansford he should have never declared just

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Speaker 3: trailed because you know it's our just time. So I

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Speaker 3: get it. You gotta go.

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Speaker 5: I get that bar, but you're not NFL ready hit

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Speaker 5: the portal, earn another three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: We'll go in next year.

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Speaker 2: Again, look what Carson Beck got to go to the

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Speaker 2: U four million bucks to lead Georgia to the U.

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Speaker 3: Four million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Not a bad payday, much better than you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: as a seventh round pick in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 3: Lots of stuff. This is gonna be like a thirty

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Speaker 3: minute Let's go on. We're in a full on soday.

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Speaker 3: Mon See's only it's.

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Speaker 9: Not gonna be thirty minutes.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes that right now, it's not gonna be thirty minutes.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 8: There is a lot going on in sports that is correct.

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Speaker 8: A lot of NBA playoff games today, starting with Game

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Speaker 8: four between the Pistons and the Knicks from Detroit.

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Speaker 9: It is halftime in New York.

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Speaker 8: Is up fifty to forty three. They also lead the

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Speaker 8: series two to one. The leading score and right now

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Speaker 8: it's Tobias Harris. He is four of twelve, not shooting great,

522
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Speaker 8: but he's got fourteen points five for Detroit and the

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Speaker 8: leading scorer Karl Anthony Towns thirteen points and six rebounds

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Speaker 8: for the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: This is just.

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Speaker 8: One of three four games actually happening in the NBA.

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Speaker 8: Minneapolis Timberwolves Lakers. That starts at three thirty eastern. Lakers

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Speaker 8: losing that series right now two games to one to

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Speaker 8: the Timberwolves. Then it's Game four between the Celtics and

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Speaker 8: the Magic from Orlando, and it ends in Milwaukee as

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Speaker 8: the Bucks are trying to even the series against the Pacers,

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Speaker 8: with tip off.

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Speaker 9: At nine to thirty eastern.

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Speaker 8: We also have NAHEL playoffs going on right now, and

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Speaker 8: the Blues just scored to take the lead against the Jets,

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Speaker 8: so they're up two to one with about six minutes

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Speaker 8: to go in the second period. But the Jets do

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Speaker 8: lead that series two to one. We'll move on to

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Speaker 8: Major League Baseball. Lots of games going on right now.

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Speaker 8: It's all Mets over the Nationals. Six to one is

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Speaker 8: the score. Bottom of the third inning. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 8: are up on the Yankees one zero. It is the

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Speaker 8: bottom of the third inning in the Bronx. The Yankees,

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Speaker 8: how the bases loaded and they still got two outs

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Speaker 8: to go in this inning. The Tigers are up on

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Speaker 8: the Orioles two zero. Top of the fourth inning. The

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Speaker 8: Twins are edging the Angels one zero. Top of the

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Speaker 8: fourth as well. Red Sox up on the Guardians to zero,

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Speaker 8: top of the fourth inning in Cleveland, and the Brewers

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Speaker 8: have had another run. It's the bottom of the first inning.

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Speaker 8: They're up on the Cardinals three zero.

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Speaker 9: Back to you guys, Oh yes, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: It's not that we were listening to everything you were saying.

555
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Speaker 2: This show is moving at warp speed, right.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot going on real quick. How Yes, I know.

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Speaker 5: I always think about you and Mally when I watch

558
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Speaker 5: the Clippers. Now, man, I was so excited to see

559
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Speaker 5: the way that game was turning out, Kawhi taking over.

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Speaker 3: The way he did yesterday. Man, but for the end

561
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Speaker 3: like that that dunk was illegal? Yeah, I was gonna

562
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Speaker 3: say it was not legal.

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Speaker 5: His two fingers still in the ball because the way

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Speaker 5: they're doing in the frame is once the light goes

565
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Speaker 5: on for some reason, then the ball leaves his hand

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Speaker 5: like that in the frame.

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Speaker 2: WHOA see, People don't understand fingers are still in the

568
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Speaker 2: ball exactly. Whether you are taking a three point shot

569
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Speaker 2: or dugging it, the ball has to clear one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent clear our hands before that light goes on. We

571
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Speaker 2: replayed on TV twenty times last night.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, but that's the way when he dunked it live.

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Speaker 5: The first referee goes like this.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I was like, I said, all right,

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Speaker 3: over time, I said that that can't be good. Like

576
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Speaker 3: the ball is clearly in his hands on on the dunk.

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Speaker 2: The light goes on. You can see the light goes

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Speaker 2: on and it's it's hard because he's dunking. But again

579
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Speaker 2: the ball, it doesn't matter, it's a dunk. It has

580
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Speaker 2: to be clear of your hands before that light goes on.

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Speaker 3: Would you do it? I think the league is not.

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Speaker 3: I think the league is not doing the Clippers any favors.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 9: I in lifetime.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how you call that good, which I

586
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Speaker 8: think they called it a basket, which was hard to

587
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Speaker 8: overturn it, which was the problem.

588
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Speaker 9: I was there.

589
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Speaker 8: It didn't look like it was out of his hands,

590
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Speaker 8: but it was really close and you could I agree.

591
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Speaker 8: I don't think it was out of his hands.

592
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Speaker 3: You were there. How was that on TV? Just felt

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Speaker 3: was that atmosphere just banana's in there? Yesterday?

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Speaker 9: I don't think it was as bananas as it was

595
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Speaker 9: the first game out into it.

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Speaker 2: All, especially when you're twenty two points at the start

597
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Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, we did not shoot the ball well. I

599
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Speaker 8: don't even think really Kawhi took over. I think we

600
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 8: were not shooting the ball well at all from the beginning, honest.

601
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Speaker 8: And it was a rough shooting performance by the Clippers

602
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Speaker 8: at the end. Like, obviously we cut the deficit because

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Speaker 8: of defense.

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Speaker 3: But well where was that early?

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Speaker 2: I mean, even why after the game is like, you know,

606
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Speaker 2: we we got it, he said, Look, we got to

607
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Speaker 2: review the film here why we played so well in

608
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and why we didn't play well and

609
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Speaker 2: came out again. When you blow a team out by

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Speaker 2: thirty four, this series seriously could have been a four

611
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Speaker 2: game this.

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Speaker 3: Week for the Clippers.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's fine to you know, we knew this was

614
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Speaker 5: going the four or five though is historically six or

615
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Speaker 5: seven because there's normally a game or two.

616
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Speaker 3: So did these two teams end up with the same record? Fifty?

617
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Speaker 3: They're the same record. I'm a serious.

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Speaker 2: I don't be surprised if the Clippers go back to

619
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Speaker 2: Denver win game five.

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Speaker 3: I would not. I wouldn't be. I still think they're

621
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Speaker 3: the better team, but.

622
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Speaker 2: They have these lapses they do, and you can't do

623
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Speaker 2: that in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: You have to do it to also to joke, I

625
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Speaker 5: just you can't let him go ballistic thirty eight thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can't. Like there's gotta be in. Zubac is balling,

627
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Speaker 3: But if someone else has to entirely I think, has

628
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Speaker 3: to deploy like a double you gotta get the you

629
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Speaker 3: gotta blitz him and get the ball out of it.

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Speaker 8: We've actually been pretty successful when he's one on one

631
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Speaker 8: because he throws up. He has such great assists that

632
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Speaker 8: it doesn't help to double team him because it leaves

633
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Speaker 8: somebody to cut and drive in. So actually him being

634
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Speaker 8: one on one has eliminated a lot of the cutting

635
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Speaker 8: from Gordon or Michael Porter into the basket.

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Speaker 9: Where he throws behind his back or like whatever.

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Speaker 8: We've eliminated that by keeping Zoo on him one on one,

638
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Speaker 8: and I think he's doing a good job.

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Speaker 3: He's but a great job.

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Speaker 5: I would just blitz him, though I'm not saying double him.

641
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Speaker 5: Once he gets the ball, send a second go blitz.

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Speaker 5: I get that he has to give it up at

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Speaker 5: that point, make somebody else come beat me.

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Speaker 2: Much much of my TV schedule here in La revolves

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Speaker 2: around the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm confident they're gonna win this series.

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Speaker 2: I still am by the way draft coverage of on

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Speaker 2: know you've been, you know, sort of taking in what

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Speaker 2: happened first couple of days, a couple of rounds of

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 3: Again, if it doesn't happen the first two days, it's

656
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Speaker 3: a bonus. Like if you.

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Speaker 2: Find somebody in rounds four through seven, it's not by

658
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Speaker 2: planned sometimes it's by luck. Then you got the right guy,

659
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Speaker 2: right place, right system, right time type of thing. But

660
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: when you miss in the first three rounds, that's brutal.

661
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, at the very least, you need starters. You

662
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: need guys that will contribute to your team. When you're

663
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: drafting guys in the first three rounds. Now, none of

664
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Speaker 2: these guys have played a single game in the NFL.

665
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: But anybody catch your eye.

666
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: Here, VJ.

667
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, the pick early that called my eye, it's

668
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: the elephant in the room. And that was ashing gent

669
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Speaker 5: u to your raiders. And you call that when I

670
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: think most people can see it outcoming. But you have

671
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: to look at like the pkarro Rice. It's a new regime.

672
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: Pee Caro's gonna want a power game, and off the

673
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: power game, you can play action. You have Brock Bowers

674
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: and I and I was a guy saying Brock should

675
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: have went number one overall coming out of this draft

676
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: because he was clearly the best player in the draft.

677
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: And it's showing it now it's gonna open up. This

678
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: guy's gonna have one hundred plus catches for about thirteen

679
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: hundred yards.

680
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: Think about it, about fourteen to last year.

681
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: Now you Gino Smith Garbage, who you know is one

682
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: of the most accurate passers in the NFL.

683
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Speaker 5: But coming off of this rookie with these young legs,

684
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: with this young body at five, oh my goodness, yeah

685
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: good luck. Let me tell you something. Now, you're gonna

686
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: need him because Hardball's defense will punch you in the mouth.

687
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: The Denver defense will punch you in the mouth. After this, yeah,

688
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: Spags defense will punch you in You got Pete Carroll exactly.

689
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 5: But and Pee Carroll likes the back that punches back.

690
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: It's not Josh Daniels. It's not Dennis Galla. Yeah yeah,

691
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Pete yeah, Carol Yeah.

692
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: Another one to Coaston lovely shout out to me.

693
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Speaker 5: She get They went bananas in the first round for

694
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: a team that Soco had a down here even though

695
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: we beat Ohio State, but getting getting getting Caleb a weapon,

696
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: been like that to now go with Roma Doonza. See

697
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: what's happening with Keenan Allen surprised that the ball he's

698
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: he's the best tight end. Look at the garbage that

699
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: was throwing to him in Michigan last year. Go back

700
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: to when JJ was his quarterback and people said he

701
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: should have came out then he was gonna be a

702
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: top ten pick.

703
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: He still ended up being a top ten.

704
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 5: Pick, having five different five five quarterbacks last year. Throw

705
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 5: him past this. I love the Kenda Grant pick for

706
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: the Dolphins. The Dolphins went interior and I loved it.

707
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: They didn't really take no skill guys. They took the

708
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: tackle out of Arizona in the second round. They looked

709
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: at us, Okay, we've got to add to the Turches

710
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: because we got to help these two ends out in

711
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: Chubb and the Phillips, and we lost Wilkins.

712
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: We know we got Zeeler.

713
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 5: We gave him the money, and we know we got

714
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: Ogbah he's starting to resurface himself.

715
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: But let's go get some young talent.

716
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 5: Let's go get a just a whole eater a guy

717
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: where you because you got chase around. You gotta chase

718
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: around who Josh Allen and you need somebody to push

719
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: that pocket which we haven't had in a few years.

720
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Speaker 3: I love the.

721
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: Kenneth Grant picks taken Jackson Dark, who both of us

722
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: said would go in the first round in the twenties. Yes,

723
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: but for the Giants to take him once again. Okay,

724
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: you brought in Russ, you brought in famous Jameis aka

725
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: krab Legs. I told you one of those guys are

726
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: not gonna be on the opening day roster. You cannot

727
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 5: go into this season with the veto. He's gonna be

728
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 5: gone if you're gonna keep these three. But Wilson or

729
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: Winston are They're not gonna be on these opening day rouns.

730
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, let's make it clear, Brian Dabos future

731
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: is hanging on Jackson Dark, right, and Jackson Dark can

732
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: throw the football. I mean, I've seen this kid. You

733
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: gotta play that year roun usc days. It's exactly canny

734
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: handle the moment, especially in the spotlights and the pressure.

735
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: That's gonna be with the New York Giants.

736
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you a team that I thought did a

737
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: really good job again and that's the Rams.

738
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Speaker 3: The Rams, the Rams. This is amazing.

739
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: So a year ago they get two of the top

740
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: three finishers and defensive Rookie of the year after Aaron

741
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Donald retires.

742
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: Right, so what do they do this year?

743
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: They get the tight end, the great kid out of Oregon, Ferguson,

744
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: But then they take Josiah Stewart, the edge out of Michigan,

745
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: and then later they take the big defensive tackle out

746
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: of Ohio State, Ty Hamilton. And I'm saying to myself, look,

747
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: I know this going back to the Raider days. You

748
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: can never have enough depth on your defensive foe. If

749
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 2: your defensive front is not putting pressure on the quarterback,

750
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: you're not going to win in this league.

751
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: So they doubled down.

752
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: They're like, wow, we got you know, we had two

753
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: guys hit big time a year ago.

754
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Now they add to that.

755
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: Again, so you know, and so you know there are

756
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: some but again, until I'll never forget this, this goes

757
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: back when the Chargers rafted Ryan Leaf, right, and so

758
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: the next day all the San Diego papers, I'm down there, right,

759
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, plus, hey, plus draft, and I'm like, okay,

760
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: well we'll see.

761
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: He did win his first.

762
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: Two games, and then the third game was that infamous

763
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: one for fifteen four yard game against the Chiefs.

764
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: The rest is history.

765
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: But I at that point my partner and I said,

766
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: you know what, instead of grading the draft the day after,

767
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: it's like grading a test before you take in the test. Right,

768
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's give it three years. Let's start every year. We

769
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: did this for years where we look back three years. Now,

770
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: let's hand out the grades for the drafts. Well, even four,

771
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: you're right, but I thought three at least gives you

772
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: a time.

773
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: You know where I get three? It was I think

774
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Joe Namath made a comment about three years, like if

775
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: you haven't made it after three years, it's not impossible.

776
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 5: But you know, I like that for the real also

777
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: real on Tampa received I'm sorry Eboku, Yes, from Ohio State.

778
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: I loved him a lot.

779
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: Give him Baker another weapon for that office there.

780
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: I thought that I actually I actually projected him for

781
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: the Chargers. I had that, but he was gone. Yeah,

782
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: and they went with Hampton the running back. Good pick

783
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: for them as well. All right, coming up on the

784
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: other side, will continue on with a little spin on.

785
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: The draft right now.

786
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're also going to get into these NBA

787
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: playoffs series. Any surprises, we'll break it down. This is

788
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

789
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

790
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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

791
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,920
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792
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Speaker 2: Harvin Huski here Fox Sports Sunday. And the Pistons have

794
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: come back. They have even up this game against the

795
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: next fifty five all five and a half minutes ago

796
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: in the third. Not exactly prolific scoring going on in

797
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: this game right now. Wow, fifty five to fifty five

798
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: with five minutes.

799
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Speaker 5: Ago is missed up. Talking about my squad like that,

800
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 5: you're trying to throw your live I'm.

801
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: Gonna predict them.

802
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna predict the Pistons make a shot here, boom,

803
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: look at that.

804
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: There we go and we got the lead back. Let's go. Okay,

805
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: we but I think the Knicks are gonna say, wait,

806
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: it's my squad.

807
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they're gonna I think the Knicks are gonna

808
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: come down and hit a three point shot here.

809
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 5: You guys, notice that when it's this Steve and I've

810
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: had Hartman and Husky. Every time I tell him I

811
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: like the team, he starts to go against something.

812
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Like well, like all do you get through everybody?

813
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: Say, see, I told you I might have ahead of

814
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: you on the scale.

815
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: I knew you were trying to be a smart ass

816
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: when you text me about Shadoudi the other night.

817
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: That's the reason why, that's the real reason raw, I

818
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: was baiting you. I'm a bit and let's and guess.

819
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: What I didn't. It didn't bother me. I didn't take

820
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: it personally.

821
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 5: Bring it, but no, it's Steve Hartman, Lazy and gentlemens

822
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 5: have never texted me.

823
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: We've done radio off and on for seven years. I

824
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: have never once well, I received a text message from

825
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman, lazy and gentlemen until then, until then, and I.

826
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 5: Knew exactly what he was doing. And I just I've

827
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: just flipped my phone down on the couch. I said,

828
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 5: I'll see his ass on Sunday if he thinks, if

829
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 5: he thinks, I'm gonna go back and forth over.

830
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: Text about this.

831
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: Nah, but no I And that's what I like about

832
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 5: partnership and radio. It's it's supposed to be that dude,

833
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: you should be able to text your co host and

834
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: talk a little trash and it'd be fun.

835
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: Man, Like I knew. I knew what you were doing

836
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: the minute I saw it. It pissed me off a

837
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: little bit. Okay, you know what is what is sports talk?

838
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: If it's not trash talk? Right? What is sports talk?

839
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Because what you know, I've been doing this now for

840
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: what is it now, thirty six years?

841
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: Thirty six years of sports talk radio.

842
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: And there's nothing different from what I've done on the

843
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: radio for thirty six years that I didn't do for

844
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: twenty years prior to that with my buddy.

845
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 5: Right in the barbershop or in the locker room, you've

846
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: got a water cooler, everyone's trying to press.

847
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I know more than you. I know more than you.

848
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: Thank you.

849
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm the smartest side of you when it comes to sports.

850
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: Don't be telling me your garbage. I'll tell you what

851
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: is exactly.

852
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: That's how I hate people say, well, VJ yos, did

853
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: you know your talk? Everybody in this business always thinks

854
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: they know what they're talking about.

855
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: Some of us are just a lot more confident with

856
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: it and are real enough to when they were wrong.

857
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: And here is the beauty of this.

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00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: So I had all these stats I knew, right, So

859
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got this.

860
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm the stack kid, I'm the stack guy.

861
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 8: Right.

862
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: Well, here's the one thing I know about stats, having

863
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: just you know, devoted my life to sports stats, is

864
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: that I am fully where that sports stats do not

865
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: tell the story.

866
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: Right, but but they give you ammunition for an argument.

867
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: So you can use a stat and I can manipulate

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: a stat anyway I want to back of my argument.

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00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's how sports stats work for me, and they've always

871
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: worked for me. Are you used stats like that? Oh

872
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: many times? Absolutely?

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00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: By the way, I want to bring in Chris right now, Chris,

874
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: you had a stat yesterday. Wait, so we are. He

875
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: had two quarterback stats. I want you to listen to.

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00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: You've got some good stuff every now, line test stats.

877
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: All right, here's so blind test stats.

878
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 10: So we've got to both these quarterbacks won the Unitis

879
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 10: Award in their respective years. One had around forty one

880
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 10: hundred yards I believe thirty nine to ten touchdown to

881
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 10: interception ratio about a seventy four percent completion rating. Okay,

882
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 10: quarterback two four thousand, seven hundred and seventy eight passing

883
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 10: yards thirty eight nine is the ratio, and I would

884
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 10: say it's a little over seventy one seventy two percent

885
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 10: completion percentage.

886
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: So basically the same numbers. Okay, what's the question? Who

887
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: are those guys and what rounds do they go? One

888
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: of them is to we'll talk about a lower No,

889
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: that is incorrect.

890
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Okay, well one of them is the one closest to

891
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: your heart. I think you got so.

892
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 10: So the one with the more passing yards also won

893
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 10: the Uniteds. Just just tell me what round you think

894
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 10: in the draft he went, the other guy, the other

895
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 10: the other guy.

896
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: Second.

897
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 10: That was the stats of twenty nineteens Uniteds winner Gardner Minshew,

898
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 10: who went in the sixth round.

899
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: So what's your point. I think that.

900
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 10: Some people have jumped into college football stats a little

901
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 10: bit as a tourist and don't understand that the production

902
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 10: that Shaeddar Sanders had at that point is actually not

903
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 10: that extraordinary.

904
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: Okay, here here's my god, Okay, here we go on.

905
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to go really going after the top

906
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: they are because we're up against it right now.

907
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: So the one thing we really did not talk about

908
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: with Shador.

909
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: Is is his actual on field talent. So we'll get

910
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: a little into that along with the NBA playoff coverage.

911
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

912
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm.

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00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,560
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921
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: a little of the my perceived reality of Shador Sanders

922
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, forget all the other outside noise just

923
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: as a player, I do want to call in Shae,

924
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: our brilliant producer, Shay, how are you today?

925
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 4: It's good to see you're doing amazing.

926
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: We got a half hour.

927
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: Away from Lakers tipping this thing off against the Timbolves.

928
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: Are gonna be okay, I'm I'm a little nervous for today.

929
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 3: I'm not well.

930
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't think it's far fetched to say this

931
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: is a must win for Lakers.

932
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 4: I mean it's great.

933
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean, down three one is not impossible, especially when

934
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: you have two of the next three at home before.

935
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: But you know the way that well, Lebron James one

936
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: of your personal favorites.

937
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: VJH God.

938
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean look, I mean, well, look what he did

939
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: the other night. Get you got a flu bug? I

940
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: guess whatever was affecting Duca. And so you know, Lebron

941
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: oldest player ever to have at least thirty five points

942
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: in a playoff game.

943
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: Thirty eight points, beautiful thing.

944
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's because he's you know, he's because he's

945
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: so old and everything and he can still do it.

946
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: Did they win? Okay? Because I remember when Kobe used

947
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: to have them kind of games.

948
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: You know what I used to hear fans say, well,

949
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: he didn't win, he tried to play hero ball, He

950
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 5: tried to do it himself, if he'd have passed and

951
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: worked more of his teammates in data one.

952
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: But when Lebron does it, it's wow, what a performance. Because

953
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: he's older or he's off. This agent is of this.

954
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: If you actually go put the tape on and watch

955
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: the game. Lebron James after a thirty eight point game,

956
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: it was a clear shay, are you walking out of

957
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: the studio right now?

958
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: It was a clear hero ball. Let me go out

959
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 5: and get my stats because if we lose. If we lose,

960
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 5: they'll say, well, I did my job. All the Clutch

961
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: TV fanboys will say he did his job. All the

962
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: fans on twits that, well, he did his job. But

963
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 5: y'all like saying that when they won.

964
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: Okay, here's something that shay. Okay, here, here's the thing

965
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: that got to me about that game. So it was

966
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: tied late and then the Lakers don't score a bucket

967
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: in the last four and a half minutes. But what

968
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: really got me is when they had the official review

969
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: and there was Lebron on yucking it up.

970
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: Pissed me off.

971
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: What was he doing with members of the.

972
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: Timberwolves and Monty were just talking about that.

973
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, are you kidding me?

974
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Let me get this bright. This is like a game

975
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: that I said going in, the Lakers needed to win

976
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: this game three. I agree, and it's a close game

977
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: late and you have the officials review going on and

978
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: you're hanging with the other teams during the timeout. I

979
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: agree there and you are laughing, laughing, it's a timeout situation.

980
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: What are you doing? So you know why he was

981
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: doing that?

982
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 11: Shit?

983
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Why was he doing that?

984
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: And I tweeting? Then you can go back and looking

985
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 5: to I tweeted what was happening. He had his numbers

986
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: at that point, he had his stats at that point.

987
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 5: At that point, the winning is okay if we went cool,

988
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: but if not, hey I done. You're right to sit

989
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 5: there and be laughing the team during time happen busting

990
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: as Yeah.

991
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: No, I agree, he's too comfortable. I think it's more

992
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: of a I've been like, he doesn't understand this, the

993
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: intensity of the playoffs anymore because he's been there so much.

994
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Okay, this is.

995
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Why I agree with This is why I will get

996
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: back to what I have said, and apparently VJ has

997
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: said it as well. This is his last year as

998
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: a Laker. I still don't agree with that. I mean,

999
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: after a thirty eight point showing in the playoffs, I

1000
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: don't think really he just needs a start talking.

1001
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: To the bottom eye.

1002
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: I think thirty eight went out the window when I

1003
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: saw him during a timeout late in the game.

1004
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: Games on the line, and.

1005
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: You're not with your teammates, with the other teams. Act

1006
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: he's played twenty two years in the league.

1007
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: Okay, then he's getting to he's gotten too company.

1008
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: I think he's.

1009
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: Honestly sending a message to the rest of the team

1010
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: when in his career has it not been his team.

1011
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: When it's not now the team, it's now Lucas team.

1012
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: And he goes out, he has a hot hand, he's

1013
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: making shots. Lucas struggling because he's under the weather. Yes,

1014
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: and he was basically almost mocking the Lakers.

1015
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 4: I hated when he did that. That was one of

1016
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: my least favorite Lebron moments I've ever seen. When he

1017
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 4: was talking to me and especially in the last four seconds,

1018
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 4: took me out the pasture. You wanted to the way

1019
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: out the pasture.

1020
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: Remember I told you this, guys. Then something doesn't smell

1021
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: right there.

1022
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: Right after when they made the trade, but before Luca

1023
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: could play, I'm covering the Laker game. They bring Luca

1024
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: out to the middle of the court to introduce him

1025
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: to the Laker crowd for the very first time.

1026
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: But when they did it.

1027
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 5: They did it when Lebron was trying to do his

1028
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: powder I swear I looked at Bill Pulashki in the

1029
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: person I said, oh, wow, are you and we all

1030
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: laughed because we all knew what was going on. I

1031
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 5: was like, oh, you got y'all have pissed him off.

1032
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: Now you're gonna introduce his replacement when he's trying to

1033
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 5: have all the attention on himself and do his corny

1034
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 5: ass powder thing he's been doing for twenty something years.

1035
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: And that's the game. He came out of hit like

1036
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: his first four to three pointers. One he took a

1037
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: logo three with.

1038
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 5: The RS out and I looked at everybody said, I

1039
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: told y'all, y'all, y'all have made this guy mad.

1040
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: That's not sustainable. But he's trying to send a message

1041
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: to you guys right now. And I kept telling people this,

1042
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: but I'm the hater.

1043
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: They will go as far as his ego allow them

1044
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: to go this year. And understand, it's not your team

1045
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: no more. It's just got prove it a thirty seven,

1046
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 5: thirty eight point night.

1047
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: Bro.

1048
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: Don't get y'all dumbs no more. That's not your role.

1049
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: Also to not just on him.

1050
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: Alston reeves played way too much hero Ball, and I

1051
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: think it's kind of getting in his head that people

1052
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: are starting to accept him and give him his props

1053
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: way too many times. He's trying to like split defenders,

1054
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: spin through products and we're not sure.

1055
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this game is gonna be tipping off here, Shay,

1056
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: I think you agree with me.

1057
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's who is this is?

1058
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, last night I said this, I

1059
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: had to make a prediction, and I picked the Lakers

1060
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: to win this game, just feeling like, Okay, I gotta

1061
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: believe that Lucas gonna feel better than he did the

1062
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: other night. But how is it if he does a

1063
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: Luca game, how is that gonna affect Lebron's thank you?

1064
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: That is he gonna take a backseat or is he

1065
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: feeling his oats now that he's coming off that kind

1066
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: of game? Is he going to be a situation like Luca? Look,

1067
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I appreciate you. I love your game.

1068
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: This is still my team and that's just still my team.

1069
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: And in a must game like today, this is going

1070
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: to be a power struggle between Lebron and Luca.

1071
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: I completely disagree. I think we're going to see something

1072
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 4: more of like a Kyrie Lebron situation today. I think

1073
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: they're both gonna kind of lock in.

1074
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: They're gonna need that if they're going to win.

1075
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to see Lebron laughing today.

1076
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to see any of that.

1077
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see both of them locked in.

1078
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: And I think we're going to see an above thirty

1079
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: point game from Luca and.

1080
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: The analogy using I don't mind. But this is also

1081
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 5: not that Lebron. This is now forty something years old.

1082
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: I'm more just saying he's they're going to be locked in.

1083
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 5: Lebron is a two cond He's a two way offensive player.

1084
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 5: Right now, it's either he's either a layup merchant or

1085
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: he's a jump If his jump shots not falling, he's

1086
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: scoring nineteen to twenty one points. He's not going to

1087
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: get into the thirties. The other night, his three point

1088
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: ball was when his three point balls fine for nine exactly, yeah,

1089
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: but the last three what was that?

1090
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: That was?

1091
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: I was pissed.

1092
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: Ten feet pissed me up. Before you guys are going

1093
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: to play the game, We're gonna play the game. Series

1094
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: tied at one one. Yeah, teams that win Game three

1095
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: seventy three percent chances.

1096
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: Which is why I said before Game three, the winner

1097
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: of this game is gonna win. The second thought too,

1098
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: but I didn't pick the Lakers.

1099
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: To win today.

1100
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see how this play today, Right, So

1101
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to go over with you, Shudoor Sanders the player. Okay,

1102
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: So if there's an argument that Shadoor Sanders isn't all that, now,

1103
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: just bear with me, because I know you're gonna disagree,

1104
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: but I'm going to I'm gonna give you some numbers here. Okay,

1105
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Let's let's start with the obvious negative in terms of

1106
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: where we are with quarterbacks now in the NFL. In

1107
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: two years at Colorado, Shadoor Sanders ran for negative one

1108
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards. He's not a running threat.

1109
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: He is a pocket passer. He's also a pocket passer

1110
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: that took a lot of sacks. And yes, the offensive

1111
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: line was not great by any stretch of the match

1112
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: and a Colorado, but he wasn't just taking sacks. He

1113
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: was taking sacks for huge losses, which also is on

1114
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: him to get rid of the ball. These are the

1115
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: kind of decisions that you've got to make in the

1116
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: NFL as a quarterback, you can't take big loss sacks.

1117
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to get rid of the ball.

1118
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: No one's open, get rid of the ball, find a

1119
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: way to not take the huge sack. And at Colorado

1120
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: he really struggled that. Now we talk about the accuracy,

1121
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: his two year mark of what seventy two percent, highest

1122
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: in FBS history, But how many times were you watching

1123
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: these highlights of him throwing the Travis Hunter who's making

1124
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: some kind of acrobatic superhuman catch as only Travis Hunter

1125
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: can do a lot of them.

1126
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: And so their.

1127
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: Knock on him was is that, yes, he throws a

1128
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: very accurate deep ball, this is what they us say

1129
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: about Tua tonguea bai Loa, But his short passes, he

1130
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: doesn't actually throw the ball effectively as effectively and the

1131
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: short passes, which is a big part of the NFL game.

1132
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: So really, what this comes down to this, if you

1133
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: are a team that.

1134
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: Is looking for a quarterback in the draft, that means

1135
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: you have a coach that's on the hot seat and

1136
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: he has got to pick the right quarterback or he

1137
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: is going to be gone. If you look at the

1138
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: history of the NFL. It seems like every single quarterback

1139
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: that's in the hall has a Hall of Fame coach.

1140
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: It goes back and forth. And so this was some

1141
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: of the scouting going on. Negative scouting that was going on.

1142
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: And you could say they're nippicking and they're ignoring all the positives.

1143
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: But I can tell you this is the way it

1144
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: operates VJ. When they're looking at guys and they're asked

1145
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: to find the negatives, and those were the negatives for

1146
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders during his two years prolific two years at

1147
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: the University of Colorado.

1148
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 5: All right, so a few points and I'll make it

1149
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: as fast as I can. Did you guys look up

1150
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: all these other numbers for these other quarterbacks you want

1151
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: to look up for Shador?

1152
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: I'll help you. The answers, absolutely not. You didn't do it.

1153
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: You're looking it up for Shador. So you can have

1154
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: a way, Hey, per fect, put your head phones back

1155
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: on and jump in here, because I'll give you some

1156
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: numbers on a quarterback. If he's not sitting over there.

1157
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: Three and thirteen thirty nine and seven? Who was that?

1158
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: Who was that? You don't have the answer. That was

1159
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: cam Ward.

1160
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 5: So basically the same amount of touchdown passes, three less

1161
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: interceptions in under three hundred more yards.

1162
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: So number one, So number one forty four.

1163
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 5: If you guys want to do that cornyas thing that

1164
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: you did, were, let's go find the number of some

1165
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 5: uh some some obscure quarterback and.

1166
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: Let's see what he did in college.

1167
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 5: Let's let's find one guy, because I guarantee you can

1168
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: find me a guy that's actually really good in the

1169
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 5: NFL who threw for less than even Gardner Mintch. You did, right, Okay,

1170
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 5: So then let's go to pocket passer. Well, he's not mobile.

1171
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 5: How many times have we been told you gotta be

1172
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 5: a pocket passer, you have to learn to throw from

1173
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 5: the pocket. Lamar Jackson, you're gonna have to learn to

1174
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 5: throw for the pocket. Jalen Hurt, You're gonna have to

1175
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 5: learn the throw from the pocket.

1176
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: Randall Cunneyham, Dante Colepepper, Donovan McNabb, Mike Vick, I can

1177
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: go all day. You gotta be a pocket power. Oh,

1178
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: Shardor Santas is a pocket passer, but he's not now,

1179
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: he's not mobile. I made the point about it many

1180
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: a times on Martin and VJ.

1181
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 5: I always said, even all the way back to Jackson State,

1182
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 5: the one thing I wanted him to clean up. It's

1183
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 5: on wax, it's on video, it's on tape. Is you

1184
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 5: cannot backpedal when pressure's coming. You're turning a seven yard

1185
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: sack into a fourteen yard sack. So I will give

1186
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 5: you props on that because I've even been that critical

1187
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 5: of Shador when he does that, I said, when you

1188
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 5: get to the NFL, you're gonna have to learn to

1189
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: work the pocket or get rid of the football. But

1190
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 5: also in college he has so much on him. Sometimes

1191
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: you feel like you gotta.

1192
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: Make a play. We've said it about other quarterbacks for

1193
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: the last forty years. Sometimes quarterbacks feel like they gotta

1194
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 3: make a play. We said it about Jameis Winston.

1195
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 5: Jameis Winston throws all those thirty interceptions but leads the

1196
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 5: league in touchdown passes. But hey, you're down ten points,

1197
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: you're down twenty, you gotta throw the ball. You gotta

1198
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: make a play. You just can't throw it away all

1199
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: the time. You gotta make a play. So we want

1200
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 5: to knock him for that.

1201
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: Seventy two percent, Well, that's because he throws a great

1202
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: d ball, but he's not great on the short ball.

1203
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: Is cam Ward flawless?

1204
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 5: Does cam Ward have some accuracy stuff on certain levels

1205
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: of the offense he.

1206
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: Needs to work on. I'll give you the answer. The

1207
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: answer is yes.

1208
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: So saying that she Doan needs to work on this,

1209
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: but cam Ward doesn't need to work on anything in

1210
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: that fact, in the last one where the ball needs

1211
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 5: to be these highlights where the ball is what happened

1212
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 5: to Hey, throw it up to your best player, let

1213
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 5: him go get it. Did Matthew Stafford walk his way

1214
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame doing that with Meggie Tron?

1215
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 5: Then obscure quarterbacks do that walking themselves into playoff games

1216
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: at NFC championship games with a guy named Randy Moss.

1217
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: So now it's a knock for you to throw the

1218
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 5: ball in the area to where your athlete.

1219
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: Can go get the balls. Some guys you gotta put

1220
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: it right on them.

1221
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 5: I get that, But sometimes it's like, bro, just put

1222
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: the ball in the area, I'll their receivers will tail quarterbacks. Hey, man,

1223
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 5: give me a shot, just give me a chance, I'll

1224
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 5: go get it. But now that's a knot. Listen, we're

1225
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: not gonna do this. I feel how I feel. Y'all

1226
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 5: feel how y'all feel.

1227
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 10: But let's Travis Hunter. You say it, the game you played?

1228
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 10: His career with Travis Hunter refuses you.

1229
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: And Joe Montana played with Jerry Rice. No, no, no, he

1230
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: won two Super Bowls for Jerry Rice. I know that.

1231
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: Where do you get drafted in the NFL? He got

1232
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: drafted in the I don't. I don't, Okay, So obscure Freddy.

1233
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: You guys are trying to make these dumb b s

1234
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: reasons to try to pick a part. Sure, doorstanders, because

1235
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: there's just because you're not doing it for the other quarterbacks.

1236
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: You're not. No, you're not.

1237
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: Look at it's not personal. Here's the thing. Here's the

1238
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: thing I will conceide this about. By the way, is

1239
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: it good? Here's what I do want to know moving forward?

1240
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: Is it going to be Cam Order, Cameron Award? I

1241
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: remember this with Cam Newton, So it was Cameron Newton

1242
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he came.

1243
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 5: Into the NFL and Cam on and ESPN dot com

1244
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 5: they already have his picture with the title.

1245
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 4: I looked that up and it just says.

1246
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: Because he was introduced at the draft as Cameron did

1247
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: pay attention us, and so Roger Goodell insaaning his name,

1248
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: and I guarantee you he said, that's the way I

1249
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: want my name said with the first pick that you know,

1250
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans select Cameron Ward, quarterback University of Miami.

1251
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, is he Cameron Ward now as opposed

1252
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: to cam Ward?

1253
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: If you look him up on Google, if you look

1254
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: up cam Ward, Cameron Ward comes up now.

1255
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, because again, when when when you're reading the card

1256
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: that that says that's how I wanted to be introduced.

1257
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: Mitchell don't know exactly right, Michael, don't call me Mike

1258
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: Jordan and.

1259
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: Everyone was calling him, well, look at it, look at it.

1260
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: It's like Patrick Mahomes, right when when people try to

1261
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 2: call him Pat Mahomes, his mother says, no, his father

1262
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: is Pat Mahomes. My son name is Patrick. Oh god,

1263
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: and that's why Patrick Way. How is it that is always?

1264
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: Have you always wondered about this? We always say Steph Curry,

1265
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: but he's he's actually listed as Stephan third Curry. Why

1266
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: but no one ever calls them Stephan Curry. No, but

1267
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: he's always listed as Stephen Curry.

1268
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: I always, even in person doing interviews, winning in post games.

1269
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 5: I've always referred to him as stats.

1270
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: Has anyone ever.

1271
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: But if you listen, if you see his name on

1272
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: every register ever, it says Stephan Curry everything, And yet

1273
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: no one calls them Stephen Curry.

1274
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: Well, most people don't have them, don't get called with

1275
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: on their drivers line.

1276
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Pistons lead the Knicks right now, seventy

1277
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: nine seventy one, trying to get even in this series.

1278
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: We got seven and a half minutes ago, and yes

1279
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: we're getting ready for the tip off between the Lakers

1280
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: and the Timberwolves.

1281
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: Just how important is it for.

1282
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 2: This Laker team to make a deep run in these

1283
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs? And what is the NBA doing to perhaps

1284
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:52,359
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Speaker 2: I thought VJ was leaving the building after the Pistons

1291
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: suddenly or finding themselves in a dogfight.

1292
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: It's a two point game.

1293
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: Two point game, now eighty one seventy nine Pistons trying

1294
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: to hang on still five and a half minutes ago,

1295
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: a lifetime Pistons obviously have to win this game, get

1296
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: the series even at two, heading back to Madison Square Garden.

1297
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Speaker 3: And it is highly.

1298
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: Clear in these playoffs so far, the officiating to me,

1299
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: now I'm going to preface by Saint Look, I'm a

1300
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: big believer when you get to the postseason in any sport,

1301
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: you gotta let the players decide it. You know, I

1302
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: don't want a bunch of nitpicking call. I don't want

1303
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: any of that garbage that we see all too often

1304
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: in the regular season. You know, let a few things go,

1305
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: let you know, let the guys decide sided in this case,

1306
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: on the court.

1307
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: But that being said, it's got to be even on

1308
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: both sides.

1309
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's again if you're if you're gonna let

1310
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: it go, great, but you gotta let it go on

1311
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: both sides.

1312
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean, last night we were talking about the Clippers.

1313
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: You know, in their matchup begins Denver and there's a

1314
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: there's an incident right before halftime.

1315
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: Norman Powell gets cold cocked.

1316
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: Cold cocked by guardon Gordon hit him, did he not?

1317
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: If you if you hit a guy in the face,

1318
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: yes or no? Oh? Come on, I've seen guys ejected

1319
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: for a lot less a lot.

1320
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: That's why they did their job last night by not

1321
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 5: objectives plo back.

1322
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 3: All I know is the playoffs have been great.

1323
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 5: I think the play now there's been some blows, but

1324
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: I believe one is supposed to blow out in eight

1325
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 5: like that, you're supposed to sweep them.

1326
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the age shouldn't even be in Miami, should

1327
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: not be in the playoffs as exactly.

1328
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: But the intensity is all blowing him out?

1329
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: Right?

1330
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: Was would that? That?

1331
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 9: Wasn't that?

1332
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 8: Come on?

1333
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: That was nothing like? I loved it. I love it.

1334
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 5: I love I thought hard and overreacting to the foul

1335
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 5: from Brown. I thought hard and overreacting.

1336
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: Then now I don't like.

1337
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: I like overreaction. I like when you say no, get

1338
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: your hands off of me.

1339
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: Do it. But he didn't try to swipe to his face.

1340
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 3: He fouled down hard. He swiped down to the arms hard.

1341
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 3: What's your coach to do?

1342
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: Guy?

1343
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: I was sitting here yesterday my dear friend Olden Polonies

1344
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: and we were. We were going back when Olden was

1345
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: on the courts, you know, during the nineties, when it

1346
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: was a blood bath, you know, every single game. I

1347
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: mean you were putting your life on the line playing

1348
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: in the NBA in those days. I mean that was

1349
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: a man's game. So no, I like the physical play.

1350
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't mind hard and going after it. But like

1351
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: I said, I like the idea of letting guys getting

1352
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: physical on the court. I don't have any problem with

1353
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: that in the postseason. But let's eaven it up on

1354
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: both sides. There shouldn't be foul discrepancies like we had

1355
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: in game on between the timber Wolves and the Lakers,

1356
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: where the timber Rolls are called for twenty one fouls

1357
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: and the Lakers are called for ten. That's how you

1358
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: suddenly breathe the idea it's eight on five.

1359
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: Well, I get that, man, But at the end of

1360
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 5: the day, you gotta attack. You gotta play hard, you

1361
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 5: gotta go get foules. If they're not gonna call it, fine,

1362
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: then you gotta play hard and you gotta attack. Attack

1363
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: the rim. You're taking a lot of jump shots, you're

1364
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 5: going in saft. It's the playoffs, the reps are gonna

1365
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 5: let guys player.

1366
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: I've seen it in.

1367
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 5: Every series so far, regardless of the outcomes of the games,

1368
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 5: of the scores. There is a lot of contact. It

1369
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 5: is way more intense. But that is what playoff basketball

1370
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: should be. If you listen to these commentators, like listening

1371
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: to Reggie Miller and listen to some of these other

1372
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 5: guys that have played. Listening to Shaq and Jalen Rose

1373
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 5: yesterday and Charles Barkley there say no, this is what

1374
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 5: is supposed to It's not supposed to be like the

1375
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 5: regular season because you're the last of the breed that's

1376
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 5: left of the players trying to hold the Larry O'Brien,

1377
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: so the fouls are not gonna get caught. I saw

1378
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 5: Kawhi complain last night more than I've seen him ever complain.

1379
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: He was complaining.

1380
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 5: I agree, but there's a lot of contact and they're

1381
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: not used to being called in the regular season. But

1382
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 5: you gotta be coached up and you gotta coach your

1383
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 5: team to know. Look in the playoffs, you gotta be

1384
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 5: able to you you gotta be able to take some

1385
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 5: contact and play through the contact. Don't go soft and

1386
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 5: go looking for the reps to bail you out because

1387
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 5: they're not gonna do it. You got to play through

1388
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 5: the contact. I had no problems. That wasn't a cole

1389
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 5: Cock man. Come on, that was some guy. Nobody want

1390
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 5: to fight, Steve. If they really want to fight, they

1391
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 5: they don't.

1392
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: Even know how to fight anymore, thank you. So then

1393
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: there's there's not.

1394
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: Give up like the old days when guys actually knew

1395
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: how to connect with the punch jive al tech Nicols.

1396
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: Yes, side ball out.

1397
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 4: You guys are talking about physicality and all that. So

1398
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 4: the series that we're really saying is that is in

1399
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 4: the Celtics Orlando Orlando Magic matchup on Yes, what you so?

1400
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: After injury and injury? Do you think it's really too much?

1401
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: Do you think it because the Celtics are coming out

1402
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 4: and they're saying, after another injury, this is getting absurd.

1403
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: Do you think it's soft of them?

1404
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: Do you think it's yes, yeah, I'm one hundred percent

1405
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: with you.

1406
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: No.

1407
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean again, if it's consistent on both sides, if

1408
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: there were the NBA knows this is a soft perceived

1409
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: league compared to what it used to be, and so

1410
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: you can.

1411
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 4: The Magic doing this the entire season.

1412
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: The problem the very physical, the physical, that's the coach.

1413
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: Here's what happened Rockets too. In the nineteen nineties. The

1414
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: main culprit was pat Riley.

1415
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: It was just ironic that pat Riley with his Showtime

1416
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: Lakers going head to head with the bad boys of Detroit,

1417
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: then he becomes the coach to the Knicks and it's

1418
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: like the Pistons on steroids. He took the same, took

1419
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: it way beyond with Anthony Mason and John starrs Oakley.

1420
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Charles Smaniel.

1421
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: He suddenly took it to the net like if you okay,

1422
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, if you're going to allow this brand

1423
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: of basketball, which we were not comfortable with with the

1424
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: Pistons are playing, I'll show you that b and he

1425
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: just took it to the stratosphere.

1426
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: Pacers were playing it.

1427
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it was crazy or finally you know what

1428
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 2: he got, you know the palace situation with the water.

1429
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: The NBA said, guys, guys, and that was an overreaction.

1430
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: It was overreaction by the NBA. The malice at the palace. Well,

1431
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: it was also an overreaction by Meta. Let's face it,

1432
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't you can't have you seen the

1433
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: doc though, before you say that, I just talked to

1434
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: him about it. Okay, well I've talked to him about it.

1435
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: I mean he was laying on the table, drink comes flying,

1436
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: and he went after the wrong guy.

1437
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 5: Ain't on the table doing what though? Doing his count

1438
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: to ten, which he said he was taught in therapy

1439
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 5: to do.

1440
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: I understand, but he the proles that it came in

1441
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: somebody the wrong guy let him get the ten. He

1442
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: was trying to do what he was taught to do.

1443
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 3: Can't go in the step, No, you know you can't.

1444
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: It was a pr nightmare for the league and then

1445
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: that's why he paid the price and he was suspended

1446
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year.

1447
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 3: Was at an overreaction, Yeah, but the league had to.

1448
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: They had to come down on him because you now

1449
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: had a league that was considered completely out of control.

1450
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: Do you remember all the Remember that was a Friday night.

1451
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember on TV that night? Do you remember

1452
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: all the fights that happened in college football the next day?

1453
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: South Carolina Clemson, the Hurricanes and the U and the

1454
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: Central Florida game or the Florida later game.

1455
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: What what happened to the you after their blowout win

1456
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: over Texas and the Cotton Bowl where they're called for

1457
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: two hundred plus yards in penalties in that game, mostly

1458
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: personal fouls. The NCAA said enough enough, but fans love that.

1459
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: See that's the thing that's entertainment.

1460
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: But that's the I feel like you're talking about like

1461
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 4: a college atmosphere compared to like an atmosphere your two

1462
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 4: year old two or like to an NBA game. It's different.

1463
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: It's completely different because it should be.

1464
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 9: Home.

1465
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: But I get that.

1466
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 4: I get that, but I feel you know what you're

1467
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 4: coming to when you go to a college, Like there's

1468
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: gonna be frat boys right next to you. There's gonna

1469
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: be cussing at an NBA game, there's not necessarily like

1470
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: I think that's the place way more teams, not NFL,

1471
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: but you know what you're expecting with those games. With

1472
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 4: the NBA, it's different.

1473
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: Were they are a lot more physicality in this postseason. See,

1474
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: I like it exactly, you like him. I'm guess what

1475
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: Adam Silver understands. Fans want this and so that's.

1476
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: What we're getting.

1477
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: But teams like the Celtics are complaining. So it's going

1478
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see where we go, let's think

1479
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: about it like this.

1480
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 5: If you like it now, imagine guys like us that

1481
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 5: grew up with this in the eighties and nineties, where

1482
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 5: this is well, this is was common.

1483
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was this was regular season.

1484
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 5: I mean, this was regular season. This isn't this isn't

1485
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 5: eighties and nineties. It's good now, but this was regular

1486
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 5: season in the nineties.

1487
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Let's find out what's rending right now. I

1488
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: know that Demonci is a fan of the physical play.

1489
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: What did you think of the little brawl before the

1490
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: half of your clippers?

1491
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 8: Oh you thought where Aaron Gordon swung at Norman Powell

1492
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 8: and missed And that's why he wasn't ejected because he should.

1493
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,959
Speaker 9: Have been ejected. So yeah, that was.

1494
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: A great Harden overreacted to the physical.

1495
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 5: Fouful Brown that started it all. It's a swipe down,

1496
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 5: it's a it's you.

1497
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 8: Know, about to give no, I mean, like you guys,

1498
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 8: it's it's it's intense.

1499
01:05:59,320 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 9: This game, this.

1500
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 8: Series is literally every game has been won by less

1501
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 8: than three points.

1502
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 9: I feel like the emotions are high. I was not upset.

1503
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 9: I was not upset.

1504
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 8: If you want to if you want to start, uh

1505
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 8: getting a little physical.

1506
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm all about it.

1507
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 9: I'm all about it.

1508
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh look out nixt three point to take the lead. Yes,

1509
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: there it comes. No, it doesn't come.

1510
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: Oh he made it.

1511
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 9: I was like, what are we on a delay? Delay here?

1512
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: I have the score ahead of time?

1513
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 9: I see no, so do I. Online the score is different.

1514
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 9: You're right, because online the score is ahead from the TV. Yeah. No,

1515
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 9: I'm all about it. I'm all about it. Listen.

1516
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 8: I just literally the game started and I'm sitting in

1517
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 8: my seats, and the first thing I yell is step

1518
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 8: on their throats. That's what I yelled as the game

1519
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 8: started as I sat in my seat. I know how

1520
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 8: she all right, So I'm all about it. Step on

1521
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 8: their throat. I don't care. Uh. The Detroit Pistons definitely

1522
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 8: stepped on the nixt throw in the third quarter.

1523
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 9: This is a close one right now, Nicks are up.

1524
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 8: As you just heard the three from Karl Anthony Towns

1525
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 8: ninety four to ninety three with about forty.

1526
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 9: Six seconds to go.

1527
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 8: There was a moment where maybe you held your breath

1528
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 8: if you were a Knicks fan. Jalen Brunson went to

1529
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 8: the locker room. Obviously, he missed the end of the

1530
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 8: season with that ankle sprain. He went back on the

1531
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 8: core and he just drove in for a layup and

1532
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 8: fell and kind of hobbled. I don't know, Jaylen Brunson,

1533
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 8: I don't know what they put on his ankle, but

1534
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 8: like he's they're definitely pushing the limits on that ankle.

1535
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 8: He's got thirty two points Jalen Brunson to go along

1536
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 8: with eleven assists. Karl Anthony Towns twenty seven points and

1537
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 8: nine rebounds for Detroit. Kate Cunningham twenty five points, nine rebounds.

1538
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 8: In tennis, is so just shive a triple double again.

1539
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 8: Down to the final forty six seconds and New York

1540
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 8: is up ninety four to ninety three in this Game four,

1541
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 8: where they lead.

1542
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 9: The series two to one.

1543
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 8: Still to come in the NBA tipping off soon Timberwolves

1544
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 8: and a Lakers.

1545
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 9: Minnesota leads that series two to one. In hockey, the.

1546
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 8: Blues are just crushing the chests right now. It is

1547
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 8: five to one for four minutes to go in the

1548
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 8: third period. This is also Game four, and the Jets

1549
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 8: lead the series two to one, so the Blues would

1550
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 8: tie it up if they hold on to this lead.

1551
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 9: The Mets best team in baseball right now.

1552
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 8: They're beating the national seven to one bottom of the

1553
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 8: seventh inning. About to start, the Yankees were down. Not anymore,

1554
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 8: they have exploded. They're up on the Blue Jays nine

1555
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 8: to one bottom of the fifth inning, and it's game one.

1556
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 9: Of their double header.

1557
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 8: Tiger's still shutting out the Orioles five zero bottom of

1558
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 8: the seventh, Twins shutting out the Angels for zero bottom

1559
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,959
Speaker 8: of the seventh as well. The Guardians are on the scoreboard,

1560
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 8: but the Red Sox are still up nine to three

1561
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 8: top of the seventh inning, while the Astros are shutting

1562
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 8: out the Royals four zero bottom of the fifth.

1563
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 9: Everyone's shutting everyone out.

1564
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 8: Brewers are shutting out the Cardinals seven zero after four innings,

1565
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 8: and the Reds are shutting out the Rockies three zero

1566
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 8: after the first inning.

1567
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 9: And lastly, here in the NFL, the league.

1568
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 8: Is looking into how Shador Sanders private phone number was

1569
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 8: leaked and used for a prank call two of the draft.

1570
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: Well, think about this, That number was exclusive, right, the

1571
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: main general managers of the thirty two teams that supposedly

1572
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: they were the only ones that had access to that number.

1573
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 9: And then not just him, but Tyler Warren is that

1574
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 9: who it was.

1575
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 8: I think Tyler Warren also, they think he was also

1576
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 8: prank called, so Chador wasn't the only one.

1577
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 9: But you're right, it was a private phone, literally in

1578
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 9: the room.

1579
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 8: There is a video of the guy making the phone call,

1580
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 8: and the guy next to the guy making the phone

1581
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 8: call to door Sanders does look like the son of someone.

1582
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 9: That may be a GM. So it's like everyone's like,

1583
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 9: that looks like that guy's son, and it.

1584
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: Just like it's interesting because the crank call basically said

1585
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna take you, but you're just gonna have to wait.

1586
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: You're just gonna have to And then his reaction was

1587
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: what was that right?

1588
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: And later again Shador said all the right things, saying

1589
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: that didn't really have any effect.

1590
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 8: On anymore, you know, Oh it's still awful, Like whoever

1591
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 8: did it was absolutely So it's supposed to be rumor

1592
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 8: has it that Jack's Olbrick, the son of Falcons defensive

1593
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 8: coordinator Jeff Olbrick, was behind wow prank call. That's like

1594
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 8: what people think, and it's because of the video. The

1595
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 8: guy in that video does look like a picture of.

1596
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: Well, if they can actually prove who it was, and

1597
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm the commissioner.

1598
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm finding that team a million dollars.

1599
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, if not more, If not, you don't.

1600
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. You gotta have the message. I got

1601
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,879
Speaker 3: nothing else, man, I got nothing.

1602
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: Notes on right there, good Sue, all right, thank you, Moncie.

1603
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: All right, So we're keeping our eye on this. By

1604
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,520
Speaker 2: the way, they have delayed, thank you, the Lakers Minnesota

1605
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: game until after this game ends, so they'll tip off.

1606
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: Move back twenty minutes.

1607
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Lakers Timberwolves coming up in about twelve minutes. So Nicks

1608
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: lead the Pistons ninety four ninety three. We got thirty

1609
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: seven seconds left. That was an absolute prayer three to

1610
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: give the Knicks the lead. So the Knicks were outscored

1611
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight to fourteen by the Pistons in the third quarter,

1612
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: and now they put up thirty to twenty two. There was,

1613
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 2: by the way, a play that we were watching in

1614
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: which the ball it should have been a foul on

1615
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: the Knicks, the ball was off the Pistons, and the

1616
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: next thing you know, the Knicks had a three to

1617
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: get back in this game because they were down eight

1618
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: at that point. So right now the Knicks have the

1619
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: ball and the lead seventeen on the clock, So.

1620
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: This is brutal at the Pistons.

1621
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 5: Someone, well, I mean, look, here's the thing. You just

1622
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 5: need to stop right here. Man, we're thinking too far ahead.

1623
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 5: That's anxiety.

1624
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: Well, you just can't give up a three, that is

1625
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: for sure.

1626
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: All right.

1627
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: So four seconds on the clock, we got seventeen seconds

1628
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: left in the game. Nicks are gonna have to get

1629
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: a quick shot off.

1630
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 5: And by the way, they get to stop here in

1631
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 5: Detroit gets the ball Detroit to win the game.

1632
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: No, we'll find out.

1633
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 2: I mean, you got this is a young Detroit team.

1634
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: It's been incredible turnaround for this team. By the way,

1635
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: shooter right there has been so clutch for this team.

1636
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: He's got such an interesting career.

1637
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: Shooter. I mean, he was a key component for the

1638
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 3: Lakers when they won that championship back in twenty twenty.

1639
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: And they got rid of the guy that's crazy, Alo,

1640
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: got rid of the rise off that of them. He

1641
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: injected the content, well he did. He rejected the contents.

1642
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: So the Knicks right now, they get a misshot. All right,

1643
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: So the Pistons have the ball. We got the clock

1644
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 2: running inside ten and the Knicks apparently had a foul

1645
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: to give, so eleven seconds left, all right, can't do

1646
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: play by playbook, Keep our eye.

1647
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: On this, all right.

1648
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: So, by the way, be sure to check out the

1649
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of great

1650
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: videos for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just

1651
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You see a whole

1652
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be sure

1653
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: to subscribe so you always have instant access to our

1654
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Now, again, when I

1655
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: get back to the conspiracy theories, many of them circling

1656
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: around the Lakers. I mean, there's just there's no doubt

1657
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: this is a critical postseason for the NBA. The numbers

1658
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: are down in the regular season. They came out of

1659
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: the All Star break and the league was dead. I mean,

1660
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: the All Star fiasco, whatever they put together with that

1661
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 2: All Star festivities, it was. It was an absolute nightmare,

1662
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: worse possibly than.

1663
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: What they had prior to that.

1664
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, now the blue you

1665
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: got this steal of a trade where the Lakers steal

1666
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic from the Dallas Mavericks. The league turns their

1667
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: head and just ignores the facts of that trade. And

1668
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you got these mysterious firings

1669
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: of Jenkins and Minutes Memphis, and you got Malone fired

1670
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: in Denver, like this never happens. Yeah again, talking with

1671
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: Olding yesterday, he.

1672
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: Goes, this, never happens. You've never seen that happen before.

1673
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,520
Speaker 2: Two coaches on teams well on their way to the postseason,

1674
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: and he fired them within two weeks at the end

1675
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: of the year.

1676
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: Never imagined.

1677
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 5: Could you imagine, though, if what you're saying is true,

1678
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,839
Speaker 5: could you imagine that we were in the world where

1679
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 5: the league has gone to where somebody and we know

1680
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 5: who we're talking about, has that much power that they

1681
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 5: can really manipulate the commissioner or they have the commissioner

1682
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 5: in their pocket.

1683
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 3: What secrets do what secrets do?

1684
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 4: You know?

1685
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: But but we know this about you know, you know,

1686
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: Silver tries to downplay his power, but he has.

1687
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: He has the same power that Datavid. He's said that

1688
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 3: we don't have.

1689
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, cut loose on that Chris Paul trade right.

1690
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say, you're going there, You're.

1691
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 5: Going yeah, I mean he he the commission.

1692
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 3: You're not making that trade deal.

1693
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, commissioners do have that bully

1694
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: cume back in the seventies at Baseball Commission, he nixed

1695
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: all kinds of trades. That's Charlie Finley is trying to

1696
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: get rid of his Oakland A's team. All Right, we're

1697
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 2: down in the final seconds. Detroit's got the ball in

1698
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: the hands of Cunniyamy misses the shot. There's a scramble

1699
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: and the clock is running out. And the clock is out.

1700
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: The Knicks have won the game. Wow, well you.

1701
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: Got their shot. Oh wait, Bickerstaff's going crazy as a foul.

1702
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: There's a foul. Oh he is going absolutely ridiculous that

1703
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: they robbed Detroit like this on that down. Okay, I

1704
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: just talking conspiracy theory.

1705
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, just like that, to miss fouls, the

1706
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 5: miss fouls, that blatant, that's crazy.

1707
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Knicks have far more value to the

1708
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: NBA than do the Detroit Pistons.

1709
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: That's and you know what, I you know, I got, no,

1710
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 3: I got.

1711
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: Look at that block party and they're celebrating in New York.

1712
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: This is so orchestrated by this league. Are they're not

1713
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: going to show the final sequence.

1714
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: Of what happened? Well, now they're about to what happened.

1715
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: Was Cunningham had the ball, he gets an open look,

1716
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: it's he's got a good shot there. He just ran

1717
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: it too hard. Then there was a scramble under the

1718
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: basket for the ball, and suddenly there was a frozen screen.

1719
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: What happened there? He gets found right here, right here?

1720
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 3: That's all that's a foul?

1721
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 4: Is that not a foul?

1722
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: And three free throw? Wow? Foul got him off his feet.

1723
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: There's no doubt that's a call. They make that call

1724
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: ten nine and the official.

1725
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: Is standing right there. He only lifted his arm up

1726
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: saying it's a three point shot.

1727
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: And what the NBA will do is put out a

1728
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 3: report a second challenge that call.

1729
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 5: I don't know if they have any challenges left. I

1730
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: don't know if you could challenge it. After the buzzer, though, did.

1731
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 3: You guys see that that was clearly a foul jumping in?

1732
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 3: I can see it. Can we turn on?

1733
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 8: I don't think you can challenge a non call. That

1734
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 8: wasn't a call, right, it wasn't can challenge a non

1735
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 8: call even if they had a challenge. That's more about

1736
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 8: it is crazy, absolutely a foul. But I don't think

1737
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 8: you can challenge a non call.

1738
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: Okay, it's non calls like that.

1739
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: They get people talking like what is going on here?

1740
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: Trouble for the NBA, Big trouble for the NBA. All right,

1741
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: we'll continue on this. It's Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin and

1742
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: Husky here, Fox Sports Sunday. All right, we're getting ready

1743
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: for tip off now, the Lakers and Tabra Wolves coming

1744
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: up in the next hour. John Palm Morosi is going

1745
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: to be joining us, And of course we always talk,

1746
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: you know, major League Baseball with Jay. We got the

1747
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs underway. We'll get a little hockey talk

1748
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: in there. But he is a Michigan man to the

1749
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: core and shade, and he put it out there he

1750
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: wants to talk about the Pistons and Nicks. John Paul

1751
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: Morose said, I can't wait to hear what he has

1752
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: to say about that non call on a blatant foul

1753
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: in the corner on a three point shot. Have been

1754
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 2: three free throws for the Pistons to potentially win that game,

1755
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 2: and they called nothing.

1756
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 4: I bet you in a weak or wherever the NBA

1757
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 4: looks at at they're going to call in and say

1758
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: that was a foul.

1759
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 5: That's what I said last break Well, and then the

1760
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 5: NBA will put out a report that that was.

1761
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 3: A mistake, which is the wrong thing in the NBA.

1762
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 3: No league should do that.

1763
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're giving credits, Shay, you have no idea

1764
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 5: how many times friends that don't know or don't live

1765
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 5: out here from the East Coast, they think because I'm

1766
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 5: on radio or like covering sports are on TV with

1767
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 5: special mideaks that nature that, like, I have some.

1768
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: Inside to like the inside of sports.

1769
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 5: I have people that were really texting dog, I'm thinking

1770
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 5: about stopping bet and like, because this just seems set up, man, Like,

1771
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 5: what do you know?

1772
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I know what you know? I do

1773
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: I know it. But they're fans who see that, and

1774
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 3: then that's why they feed into I'm sorry.

1775
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: But I'm sitting here talking conspiracy theory. And then they

1776
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: basically plays out in front of me. Uh and then

1777
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: because of social media is replayed over and over and

1778
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: over again again. You get a defender in the air

1779
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: once he left his feet and he hits the player.

1780
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk social media.

1781
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 10: The Detroit Pistons just tweeted out Detroit versus everybody, which

1782
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 10: in the long line of seeing this with the Lions

1783
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 10: and the Pistons. That hashtag is basically code for the

1784
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 10: rest are jopping us and they will always be jopping

1785
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 10: us because these leagues don't want us.

1786
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 4: So let me let me ask you guys this. Do

1787
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 4: you guys think that refs should be held accountable? Yeah,

1788
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 4: they sure, but they're employed by the league. So do

1789
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: you think fines should be a fan? What do you

1790
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: think it should be?

1791
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 3: You can't?

1792
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 11: Like?

1793
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: Okay? So like you make what's the point of saying

1794
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: we got it gonna happen with you? I think fines

1795
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 3: and then okay, because they get paid more for playoffs,

1796
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: and then you get paid more for conference finals, and

1797
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: then you get paid more if you get to do

1798
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: the finals. So that that is sure, as guys do

1799
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 3: a good job, but if you're making these big mistakes

1800
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: at critical times, you can't do the playoff Like you

1801
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: can't do no more playoff games because we can't have

1802
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: a what's gonna be to talk about the business? Nick

1803
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: tomorrow Morning on auto radio TV shows that call.

1804
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 2: This is hard for me because I actually am friends

1805
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: with a guy that now is retired long time NBA

1806
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: official Bill Spooner. He went to my high school a

1807
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: year ahead of me. He was a superstar in high school.

1808
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: I was a nobody, but you know, we'd be game friends.

1809
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: When he you know, suddenly heard me on the radio.

1810
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 4: Uh, you know.

1811
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: And and Bill was always very coy when I talked about,

1812
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, the inner working, especially when the Tim Donneghey

1813
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: scandal hit, which by the way, was not an investigation

1814
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: by the NBA.

1815
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: They sort of fell into that.

1816
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 6: You know.

1817
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: And he's he was the only one to do.

1818
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: He's a rogue official, the only one that's doing that

1819
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: where he's calling mor Foules to get the over and game.

1820
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: So believe what you want to believe. But non calls

1821
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: like that get people talking and that's not good for

1822
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: the NBA. Will be all over this game. Much more

1823
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: on what happened in the NFL Draft. This is Fox

1824
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We're feeling the intensity today. Oh yeah, we're

1825
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: feeling the intensity.

1826
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: It is that time of the year right now.

1827
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Speaker 2: We got to go in here on Fox Sports Sunday

1828
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Speaker 2: Com slash Draft. All right, So we are underway right now,

1835
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: Lakers with an early twelve to ten lead on the Timberwolves.

1836
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: And obviously Lakers come into this game in a must

1837
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,440
Speaker 2: win situation. You go down three to one, not impossible,

1838
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: but tough. Not impossible, it's just super tough.

1839
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 6: Man.

1840
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 5: But as I just that out to our earlier serious

1841
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 5: tied at one, one team that wins game three seventy

1842
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 5: three percent winning percentage to win the series. This is

1843
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 5: just not only this is not only a must win

1844
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 5: for the Lakers, but you brought up a point early

1845
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 5: and I wanted to ask you the question. You said,

1846
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 5: deep running. You know me, I need context, I need deeper.

1847
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 5: I'm a scuba diver. Rocks Conference championship.

1848
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, don't snorkel run is not two rounds.

1849
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 3: You get high school, you get to the final four.

1850
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 3: That's a deeper. Okay.

1851
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 5: So the Lakers to you and Shay, you're a Laker fan,

1852
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 5: this is your this is your this is your account.

1853
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 5: How far do they have to get? Because I honestly

1854
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 5: think this is if they get to a second round series,

1855
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 5: you're a three move. That doesn't it looks a.

1856
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 3: F don't matter, as you know, but it is an advantage.

1857
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 3: It is an advantage.

1858
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 2: Look you have Okay, see you know clearly the number

1859
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: one team in the Winter League. Most people would say

1860
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: Houston a fraudulent two seed, and already they're down in

1861
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: their series to the seventh seed Golden States.

1862
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: Curry, Who's next up? Lakers? Lakers? Should Lakers need to

1863
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference get to the conference final? Are

1864
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,919
Speaker 3: the Lakers even better than the Clippers or the Nuggets?

1865
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: Well, we won't have to worry about that until they

1866
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: get to the conference final, right But because right now

1867
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 2: it looks like they can play Golden.

1868
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 5: State, right Oh, and then O the next round, that's

1869
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 5: what would be. It would be God, it's gonna be

1870
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 5: Golden State. Hoston us is not fraudulent. I wonder Houston's

1871
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,440
Speaker 5: not fraudulent. They're young, they're young, They're not fraudulent.

1872
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler yesterday, Steph is just I mean, sometimes I

1873
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: watch Steph Curry and I'm just like, you know, why ridiculous.

1874
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 5: Because you got a four year guy like Jalen Green

1875
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 5: that's never been here before, who's playing well.

1876
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 3: But that guy that you're going up against.

1877
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 5: That guy that you're trash talking, that guy that you're

1878
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: running your mouth against. Homeboy, he's got two MVPs and

1879
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 5: four championships. You probably should just be quiet and guard him, right,

1880
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 5: like they used to say about Kobe, Right, don't look

1881
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 5: at him, Jordan, don't talk to that man, shut up,

1882
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 5: just play, don't get him going. And then you see

1883
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 5: the scuffle last night, not scuffle, but the stuff between.

1884
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: Him and Draymond Green and Draymond Let me.

1885
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: Ask you this about Steph Curry, sure, because we've been

1886
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: making a lot, and deservedly so, about the kind of

1887
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: season Lebron has had at age forty, twenty two years

1888
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: in the league. Speak on what is more impressive what

1889
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: Steph is doing at age thirty seven, right, little guy

1890
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: comparatively running around the court full speed, constantly looking exactly

1891
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 2: as he has for the last fifteen years, or what

1892
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: Lebron is doing right now? I ask you what is

1893
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 2: more impressive what Lebron's doing at age forty or what

1894
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: Steph Curry is doing at age thirty seven.

1895
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 3: You already know my answering. That's because this isn't I

1896
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 3: Just please listeners, just hear me. Lebron.

1897
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,839
Speaker 5: We know he parks down on the block on defense.

1898
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 5: He does not do much for majority of the game.

1899
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 5: Even on offense. If he doesn't have the ball in

1900
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 5: his hands, watch him. He's not cutting, he's not running,

1901
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 5: he's not working to get open and get the ball.

1902
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 5: Steph is still constantly moving, creating, grab getting bumped, getting hit,

1903
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: getting held. At thirty seven, we never talk about Steph

1904
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 5: age and this man as a lower seed and up.

1905
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 3: Two, he still looks young and he's such a kid.

1906
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: He face assassin man, but up to one as a

1907
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 3: lower seed on a two seed, as a seven, going

1908
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 3: in and still in one game, and then last night

1909
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: when there's no Jimmy buckets and you really think, hey,

1910
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: the Houston's gotta get this game. There's no Jimmy Butler.

1911
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 3: What does he do. He goes out and puts up

1912
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: another thirty point plus performance. He was clutched shots in

1913
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: the in.

1914
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 5: The in the most integral points and important parts of

1915
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 5: the game. Clutch shots time and time and time again.

1916
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 5: And Draymond fouls out. Don't give him nothing comingia, don't

1917
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 5: give him nothing. Steph Curry went won a game by

1918
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 5: himself last night without his main guy.

1919
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: Like that's we never talk about that. But see, that's

1920
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: not the narrative. The narrative is that to talk about

1921
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 3: Steph's age. The narrative is only to talk about, honestly,

1922
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 3: Lebron's age. Let's you can look around the league right now,

1923
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm watching Minnesota right now. Does anybody know how long

1924
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 3: Michael Colley Junior's been in the NBA? Guys, right, thank you.

1925
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 3: No one wants to remember what you remember.

1926
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 2: What you remember when Mike Conley got that first big contract,

1927
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: like thirty million a year, and people are like my wife, Right,

1928
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: He's never met in an All NBA team, never been

1929
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: an All Star.

1930
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 3: He's going to get that kind of day.

1931
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 5: Was hit the shot in the final four at the

1932
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 5: National Championship Game when he was in college.

1933
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: He's never done nothing. But no one talks about how

1934
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: this man thirty five years old himself. Yeah, it's not

1935
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 3: just longevity for one guy.

1936
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: Well, it's not to take away from Lebron, let's make that,

1937
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: but I mean it's just I just I just I

1938
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: was watching Steph last night.

1939
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: I did some highlights on I'm like, wow, I'm this guy.

1940
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: Right, and he looks stronger, he looks big. Look he's

1941
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: never tired. I mean he just he literally he's running.

1942
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: You can see the defenders just chasing this guy all

1943
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: over the court and he only.

1944
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: Needs that split second.

1945
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,919
Speaker 2: The fact that he can get that shot off so quickly,

1946
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: seemingly not even looking at the basket, and just drain

1947
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: him one after another.

1948
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 3: Another question, he is he is the greatest shooter. Oh

1949
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 3: that I've ever seen, that guy's ever created. It's not

1950
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: and it's not close. I got a question for You'll

1951
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: love though, best run around guy. Oh no, no, no no,

1952
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: I'm giving you up and give you options. Steph Curry,

1953
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 3: Rip Hamilton m Well, I know, I know, I know

1954
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 3: your but again, Rip didn't have the same offensive game.

1955
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I know.

1956
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: I said, just run. I mean, guy that just doesn't.

1957
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 2: By the way, the old school guy John Halichick was

1958
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,440
Speaker 2: that John Hallick.

1959
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, okay, might work for it.

1960
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: I know it was before your tie, but John Halichick

1961
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: was one of those players who played sixteen.

1962
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: Years and in the very end, he just he was

1963
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 3: in constant motion. On the court just always by the way,

1964
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: played both ways.

1965
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a defender, he was an offensive player,

1966
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: but it was like, dude, do you ever get tired?

1967
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 2: And that's those games when the guys are logging forty

1968
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: plus minutes or not.

1969
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 3: Then a current coach call him a plumber? Though, Isn't

1970
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 3: he Isn't he's supposed to be a plumber. Isn't that? Okay?

1971
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 5: I'm just I thought there's a I thought there was

1972
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 5: a current NBA coach right now that disrespected the game

1973
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 5: by calling those guys.

1974
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: I know, well, I mean I think he was talking.

1975
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: He was talking about Bob Woosey.

1976
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: I think, is what Yeah, okay, I mean, I mean Boosie's.

1977
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: Really going back. The amazing thing is Bob is still around.

1978
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 2: He's ninety seven years old.

1979
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 3: Wasn't he just had a Boston game?

1980
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1981
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: The Boss City is still around. And by the way,

1982
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 3: here's you know what.

1983
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Also, if everyone talks about when you know, the greater athletes,

1984
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: and obviously they're much better athletes now, but the biggest

1985
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: change in this game, without question, if you watch the

1986
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: old black and white films of the NBA, the old

1987
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: school stuff, and you're like.

1988
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 3: Wow, they're really moving slow.

1989
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: You know why they're moving slow because you had to

1990
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: have your hand on top of the ball.

1991
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 3: Even when I was.

1992
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 2: A kid, Yeah, you had you had a driven with hand,

1993
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: any kind of variation with your hand on Carrie Carrie

1994
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 2: palming the ball. So when I was a small kid,

1995
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: late sixties, early seventies, you were taught you had to

1996
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: get you had to keep your hand on top of

1997
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: the ball.

1998
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: No, it was this, and so we would tribble it all.

1999
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: We would go up and down the court like this,

2000
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, dribbling all the way back like that. And

2001
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: if you watch, that's exactly what was going on in

2002
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: those days.

2003
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, have that go on in the current NBA.

2004
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: None of what you would see would be going on.

2005
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 3: It would be impossible to you. Athletes are better today.

2006
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 3: Am I wrong for balking at that?

2007
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 9: Well?

2008
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 3: Not all?

2009
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 2: Look at Will Chamberlain. Can I can I say something

2010
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: about Okay?

2011
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: Okay, you know we we we we get in.

2012
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: This conversation about the goat, right Lebron Michael Jordan.

2013
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 3: You know if you're a bird, magic Steph, I mean,

2014
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 3: all these things.

2015
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Whoa the reality of the matter, is the most dominant

2016
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: player in the history of the NBA ever was and

2017
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: will always be Will Chamberlain period exclamation point. You could

2018
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: say who's the goat, who's the greatest player, who's got

2019
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 2: the most skill, But if you're talking about who is

2020
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: the most dominant player in the history of the NBA,

2021
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: it always will be Wilt Chamberlain. The numbers don't lie.

2022
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I mean, think about this.

2023
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: He averaged forty five and a half minutes per game

2024
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 2: for his entire career, didn't go off the cop and

2025
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: and in over.

2026
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 3: A thousand career games, never filed out of a game.

2027
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: So he played forty five point eight minutes per night

2028
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: for every game he played in the history of his

2029
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: career fourteen years, and he never filed out of a game.

2030
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: This is a guy that once had fifty five rebounds

2031
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: in the.

2032
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Game fifteen to twenty five season where he averaged fifty

2033
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 3: points twenty five rebounds.

2034
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: Correct and then by the way, that year eighty game

2035
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 2: season at eighty two, he played every second of every game.

2036
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 2: Seventy nine of the eighty games he averaged forty eight

2037
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: and a half minutes of a game.

2038
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 3: There's only forty eight minutes in a game.

2039
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 5: And that's actually, dude, that the same year two to

2040
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 5: the Big Old, if I'm not mistaken, had the first average.

2041
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 3: Of average trouble double.

2042
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean so you know when we talk about, yeah,

2043
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: there's not the depth of talent. Would Wilt Chamberlain dominate today?

2044
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: Have you never seen this guy as an athlete? He

2045
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: was a tracking He always said many times, you know,

2046
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: I had a chance one dime to have a bit

2047
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: of a conversation with the great Wilt Chamberlain. And the

2048
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 2: thing he always said was is that track and field

2049
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 2: was his luck.

2050
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 3: He was all He was a hall. He was a decathlete.

2051
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: You could do high jump, long job American, you know

2052
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: he was. He was that kind of an athlete.

2053
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: And I mean it wasn't like the everyone tries well.

2054
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: He was playing a bunch of six, Nate Thurman, obviously

2055
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Bill Russell.

2056
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 3: I mean, we go down the list of great centers

2057
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 3: of that era.

2058
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: No, Will Chamberlain was the most dominant player in the

2059
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: history of the NBA, and no one that has come

2060
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 2: since has come close to his dominance. Now you can

2061
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 2: again gauge how he wins, and he said, well, you know,

2062
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Russell won eleven championships.

2063
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: He won too well. For the most part Russell had

2064
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 3: better teams and dominated him every time they play.

2065
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Russell would Russell never ever argue with the idea,

2066
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: yeah that world wasn't better than him.

2067
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 3: You know you never already that? Yeah? Uh so, good stuff?

2068
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 4: All right?

2069
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other start, we're gonna get his

2070
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: thoughts not just on Major League Baseball, not just on

2071
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup playoff, but what happened to the Pistons

2072
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 2: at that end of the game against the Knicks. John

2073
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: Paul Morosi, our insider, will join us. This is Fox

2074
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:26,839
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2075
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2078
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2079
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: us right now. Is a man that we can talk

2080
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 2: about any sport with. In fact, I'm gonna go off

2081
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: beat for a second here as we bring on the one,

2082
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the only, the Great, John Paul Morosi and JP. I

2083
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: know you were watching your beloved Pistons lose a heartbreaker

2084
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 2: to the Knicks. VJ and I I were going nuts

2085
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 2: on the non call at the end of the game

2086
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 2: when the knickt defender leaves his feet lands on the Pistons.

2087
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Shooter throws up at three.

2088
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: No call should have been three free throws to possibly

2089
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 2: win the game for the Pistons. Did you see what

2090
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,440
Speaker 2: we saw?

2091
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 11: I actually have not left my seat in front of

2092
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 11: the television here in Michigan, so your phone call snaps

2093
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 11: me out of about thirty five minute trance. I've just

2094
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 11: been sitting here staring at the television ever since the

2095
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 11: game ended.

2096
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 6: That may or may not be exactly.

2097
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 11: Accurate, but my goodness, guys, should have been a foul. Obviously,

2098
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 11: it's difficult to say officiating is the reason for a

2099
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 11: particular outcome, but that's a foul. That's a foul. It

2100
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 11: should be a foul all game, and it should certainly

2101
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 11: be a foul in that moment. Was that this single

2102
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 11: reason why the Pistons lost the game?

2103
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 6: No, I will make sure that I say that.

2104
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 11: I also think that at the end of the day,

2105
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 11: Cad had an amazing.

2106
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 6: Game triple double, and you had the ball in his

2107
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 6: hands in the.

2108
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 11: Last possession and you felt great about it. So I

2109
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 11: think overall, this series is a case study in both

2110
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 11: how far the Pistons have come and maybe how far

2111
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 11: they still have to go to be viewed as a

2112
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 11: legitimate playoffer or legitimate conference title contender in the Eastern Conference.

2113
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 11: This game, though, I thought it was classic Eastern Conference

2114
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 11: playoff basketball, you could have wound the clock back another

2115
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 11: thirty thirty five years and there was a lot of

2116
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 11: physicality there. A game that certainly Bill Amber would have

2117
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 11: been proud of in many ways. But the piss is

2118
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 11: just a player too short. It could very easily be

2119
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 11: three to one the other direction. But as it is now,

2120
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 11: the nixt have a chance to close it out.

2121
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 6: On Tuesday there at the garden, what's going on?

2122
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: JPVD brought a husky here.

2123
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 6: Man.

2124
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 3: How you doing that?

2125
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 11: Brother?

2126
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 6: I'm outstanding, Thank you very much.

2127
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so let's just focus on this game a little bit.

2128
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 5: You said that isn't the only reason I agree with you.

2129
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 5: There's number one reason. But let's also go back to

2130
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 5: the possession before that, where there's a swipe down by

2131
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 5: heart on Jalen Duran on the baseline. It's clear he

2132
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,480
Speaker 5: smacks his arm down to his leg and the opposite

2133
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 5: arm that he's even holding the ball and the ref

2134
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 5: is standing right there in front of the Pistons. Bitch,

2135
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 5: what gives them the extra possession to hit the three

2136
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 5: then to take the league? When you see things like that,

2137
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 5: I'm sitting next to the midst of conspiracy theorist here.

2138
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 5: I'm not there yet, but when you look at say, well, yeah,

2139
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 5: there's a lot of reasons why, but it just looked

2140
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 5: like the things were just kind of constructed to go

2141
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 5: against the Pistons down the stretch.

2142
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: If you're the Pistons, how do you try to play

2143
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 3: through that?

2144
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 5: How do you try to get yourself up for game

2145
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 5: five going back to the garden and hopefully extending this

2146
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 5: thing and getting it back to the crib for a

2147
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 5: game six.

2148
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 6: Well, a couple of things, You're right.

2149
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 11: That play stood out to me too, And the other

2150
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 11: one was actually midway through the forest when it looked

2151
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 11: like it should have been Pistons ball down on the

2152
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 11: baseline and all of a sudden, balls inbounded bridges. HiT's

2153
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 11: a three, makes it a three point game, And really

2154
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 11: from that point on, at that point it's seventy nine,

2155
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 11: seventy six, Detroit. That was really the first moment where

2156
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 11: I felt Okay, the Pistons are now in Jeffrey losing's

2157
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 11: basketball game was when it became a three point game,

2158
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 11: what's about six and a half left?

2159
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 6: That stood out to me as being a really pivotal play.

2160
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 11: I think two things is this type of storyline has

2161
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 11: been going on as long as there's been the NBA

2162
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 11: playoffs about officiating and big market teams, et cetera. I

2163
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 11: think that certainly the example of the Pistons of the

2164
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 11: late eighties, the Pistons of the early ops was that

2165
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Speaker 11: they found ways to overcome that and win in spite

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Speaker 11: of that, and and sort of that became a bit

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01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 11: of their identity to where they had a big chip

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Speaker 11: on their shoulder when it came to the playoff basketball.

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Speaker 11: I also think that maybe the Pistons can take Stylace

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Speaker 11: and the fact that over the first two games of

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01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 11: the series in New York they started well in both

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01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 11: of those first two games, and today's game, you could

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01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 11: easily say that there were some possessions early where the

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Speaker 11: Pistons let the Knicks get a really comfortable believe in

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Speaker 11: the first quarter where if they started better, they win

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01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 11: this game going away. I just think they've they've got

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Speaker 11: to start better at home. They had started well on

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Speaker 11: the road. I actually think of in a majority of

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Speaker 11: the quarters in the first two games of the Garden,

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Speaker 11: Detroit was the better team, and I.

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Speaker 6: Think that they're going to have to find a way I.

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Speaker 11: Think to have all of Game five look a lot

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Speaker 11: more like the second half of Game four, where I

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Speaker 11: do think certainly Karl Anthony Towns was amazing. The Pistons

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01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 11: had to counteract that by having better perimeter shooting, which

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Speaker 11: they finally got.

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Speaker 6: From Hardaway and Beasley.

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Speaker 11: I think that was the missing ingredient in Game three

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Speaker 11: and the first half of Game four.

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Speaker 6: They showed up late.

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Speaker 11: It's just they were one possession away from evening up

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01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 11: the series of two games a piece. It's just it's

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01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 11: been great basketball.

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Speaker 6: I've loved watching it.

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Speaker 11: I think despite the results, the state of Michigan and

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01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 11: basketball fans and Detroit have loved watching it. But the

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Speaker 11: Pistons right now are just a possession or two away

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Speaker 11: from being in a much different position. But as it

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Speaker 11: is now, they've got to find a way to prolong

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01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 11: the seat and then get it back to Detroit for

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Speaker 11: a game.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to get some baseball talk in

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Speaker 2: right Now I have a question for you, because you

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Speaker 2: appreciate the history of the game as I do, JP,

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01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: what in your opinion is the greater accomplishment a perfect

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01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 2: game or four home runs in a game, because they've

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01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 2: been done about the same number of times in Major

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01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: league history. Swarez had the four home run game last night.

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Speaker 2: But in your opinion, what is.

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Speaker 3: More impressive a perfect game or four home run game?

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01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 6: It's an excellent question.

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Speaker 11: My answer is a perfect game because it involves while

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01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 11: yes it is ultimately the pitchers, it involves multiple people

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01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 11: being at their very best for the entire game because

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01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 11: you're relying on your defense, you're relying on your catcher.

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01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 6: Certainly not every every out it's going to be by strikeout.

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Speaker 11: And in fact, in a perfect game you often see

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01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 11: a lower percentage of strikeouts because it's just so taxic.

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Speaker 11: If you're having to go four in five and six

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01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 11: and seven pitches per at bats and register the strikeouts,

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01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 11: you often.

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Speaker 6: Don't get a chance to have a perfect game.

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Speaker 11: So I think the perfect game is more is the

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Speaker 11: more impressive and maybe the more dramatic achievement, But four

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01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 11: homers in the game is extraordinary. Is the reason why

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01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 11: it's so rare in the history of the game that

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01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 11: you see it happen. And Anio Suarez one of my

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 11: favorites in the game. Great personality, He can be as

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01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 11: streaky as they come in the game, but you get

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01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 11: him on a good day, and yesterday was not just

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01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 11: a good day, it was an historic day. He can

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01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 11: also be as formidable as any slugger in the game,

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Speaker 11: and that was the case yesterday.

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Speaker 6: So you're right. It's so much fun to watch Major

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01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 6: League baseball.

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Speaker 11: And to see the different feats that can occur. But

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01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 11: I would give a slight edge to the perfect game

2238
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 11: over the four homer game, even at the Bowl. Simply

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01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 11: extraordinary feats in the great.

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Speaker 6: Game of baseball.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to tag this if you're listening

2242
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 2: out there, I mean, how rare this is.

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01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 3: Nineteen players have hit four home runs in a game.

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01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: Now twenty four perfect games if you include the perfect

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01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 2: games back in the nineteenth century. How many baseball games

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01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 2: have been played major league?

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01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 3: We're talking hundred's a thousand games.

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01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy when we see something like this happen,

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01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: how rare it is.

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Speaker 3: And so it's a happening, no question about that.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, they were erroneously saying it was

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01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 2: only the second time that a player had hit four

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01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 2: home runs in a game and his team lose the game,

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01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: and happened to Bob Horner for the Braves back in

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Speaker 2: eighty six. But actually Ed Delahanty also had a four

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Speaker 2: home run game back in eighteen ninety six. I was

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01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 2: not there, but it was against the then Chicago Colts

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01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: as they were then known, and they lost that game.

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to clarify that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it is to me as a baseball historian,

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01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 2: someone that's into the numbers.

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Speaker 3: This is the kind of stuff VJ that always blows

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01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 3: my mind. I love that type of stuff. Man, Fox

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01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 3: Sports Sunday, Jo Steve Harman, Vernon Husky here with mister

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01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: JP Morosi are inside everything Fox Sports Radio analyst. So

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Speaker 3: I want, I want you to spread your legs, but

2267
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: I want everybody listening to you. Just ain't no Johnny

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01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 3: coming lately. Baby, you could talk at all.

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01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 5: So we talked a little NBA in some baseball, but

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01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 5: you and I are big NHL guy, especially in the playoff.

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01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 5: We haven't had a chance to talk it. So let's

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01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 5: go there right now. When you look at the way

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01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 5: this thing's setting up right now. Winnipeg had the blow

2274
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 5: away season right. They jumped out to a tremendous record

2275
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 5: Blues five to one to they tie that bad boy, y'all.

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01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 5: The Kings almost give up a four goal leading. They

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01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 5: got a score in the clutch out here. Crypto dot

2278
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 5: com aka still stables to me? Can I still call

2279
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 5: it stables? When them they're covering the Laker games, that

2280
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 5: series is two to one, that game is later coming

2281
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:46,759
Speaker 5: up tonight, Game four tonight. Desperation for the Oilers, Kennedy Kings,

2282
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 5: exercise those demons.

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Speaker 3: This is the fourth straight year they played in the

2284
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,879
Speaker 3: in the playoffs together. And then you got the Washington

2285
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: Capitals right where Alex took great on kind of his

2286
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 3: back end.

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01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 5: Could be his last year? Can they get far? Can

2288
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 5: they get a cupped? Just your thoughts overall on the

2289
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 5: NHL players that I think has been spectacular. Every game

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01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 5: I've watched, and I watched about seven or eight of

2291
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 5: them have just been like on the edge of my seat, like, Okay,

2292
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 5: this is why I love playoff hockets.

2293
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 3: Help you all the time. If you do not watch playoff hockey,

2294
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 3: you're missing out.

2295
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 2: It is the one we always talk about. Playoffs are

2296
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: always more intense in any sport. It's a different sport.

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01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 2: It's a different sport in a regular season. It's not

2298
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,679
Speaker 2: even the same sport that we see in the regular

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01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 2: season in the NHL. I'm with you on the Yeah,

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01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: playoff five JP Ma Litchal.

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01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 3: Picked something with the NHL playoffs brother and just rant

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Speaker 3: for us man.

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01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 6: Sure thing, well, I appreciate it.

2304
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 11: And we're still sorting out all of the drama from

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01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 11: that brawl during the Capitols Canadian game that included a

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01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 11: fight on the bench. We had seen it all, you know.

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01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,879
Speaker 11: The first thing you mentioned BJ the series between Winnipeg

2308
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 11: and Saint Louis being tied. My goodness, that is dramatic,

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01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 11: surprising the Blues.

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 6: I didn't think they had much of a.

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01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 11: Chance to after the first two games, but Connor Hallibuck,

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01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 11: who has been the best goalie in the world, has

2313
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 11: struggled in the play else and that was the story.

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01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 6: Now each the last two games.

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Speaker 11: Yes, the Jets could be a little tighter in front

2316
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 11: of him, but he's gonna need to win some games

2317
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 11: here by himself for the Jets to eventually win the Cup.

2318
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 11: And it hasn't happened yet, So that series tied up

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01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 11: to too.

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Speaker 6: The monster up Canadians, they've been.

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Speaker 11: Playing with such a motion down the stretch. I like

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01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 11: their chances to even the series up with two games

2323
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 11: a piece. Of course, they were able to get the

2324
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 11: win on home ice there in Game three. You're right, McDavid,

2325
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 11: playing later on tonight, they're at home. The Oilers aren't

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01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 11: trying to even up that series. I think the Colorado

2327
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 11: Dallas series, you've got two potential Cup winners, potential Western

2328
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 11: Conference finalists, who obviously one of them is gonna get

2329
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,440
Speaker 11: knocked out in the first round. That series has been phenomenal.

2330
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 11: And then you have the Ottawa Senators last night finding

2331
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 11: a way to prolong their season with a big overtime

2332
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 11: goal by Jake Sanderson against the.

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Speaker 6: Toronto Maple Lee.

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01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,440
Speaker 11: So we know the leagues have a lot of difficult

2335
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 11: memories about the inability to close out series in recent years,

2336
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 11: and now Ottawa's playing with a ton of emotion and

2337
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 11: a momentum. The I think that Ottawa has at least

2338
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 11: as good of a goaltending situation as the Leafs do,

2339
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 11: and for that reason, I think it's entirely possible the

2340
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 11: centers get this series back to Ottawa. For really, at

2341
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 11: that point in time, who knows what ends up happening.

2342
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 11: So a lot of drama on both sides of this

2343
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 11: bracket there, the East and the West, and I cannot

2344
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 11: wait to see how it's all unfold here in the

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01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 11: coming days.

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01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. The Maple Leafs are the

2347
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: story to me, They're always the story because again, we

2348
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 2: haven't had a Canadian based team wins since the Canadians

2349
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: in ninety three, and of course the Leaves haven't won

2350
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: since the last year of the original six back in

2351
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven. Last year Toronto poisted that Stanley Cup.

2352
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 2: All right, we covered it all today, JPS. That's right,

2353
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 2: great stuff.

2354
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 6: I love it.

2355
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 3: I love it, Davies.

2356
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 11: I look forward to this conversation guys every week. There

2357
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 11: is truly no better time of year than this, and

2358
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 11: there is no better show on which you talk sports

2359
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,839
Speaker 11: than yours. So thank you so much for the invitation,

2360
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 11: love the conversation.

2361
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 6: You guys have a great start of the week.

2362
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

2363
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, great John Paul Morosi, who can cover it all,

2364
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 2: cover it all.

2365
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 3: Thanks so much. JP.

2366
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

2367
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 2: I speaking of covering it all, Monsey has been all over.

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Speaker 9: The six year physical out here, a lot of physicality.

2369
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 8: But I'm actually going to start with the prank call

2370
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 8: for Shador Sanders.

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01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 3: Date.

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01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,520
Speaker 9: Yes, So remember I mentioned.

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01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 8: The last update that a lot of people were connecting

2374
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 8: this kid in the video of the prank call to

2375
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 8: Jeff Olbrick's son, who was the Falcons defensive coordinator, Jack's Olbrick. Well,

2376
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 8: Jacks Olbrick has made a statement on Friday night. I

2377
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,839
Speaker 8: made a tremendous mistake, Chaudor. What I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing,

2378
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 8: and shameful. I'm so sorry I took away from your moment.

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01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 8: It was selfish and childish. I can never imagine getting

2380
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 8: ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your

2381
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 8: life and I made a terrible mistake and messed with

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01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 8: that moment. Thank you for accepting my call earlier today.

2383
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 8: I hope you can find it in your heart to

2384
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 8: forgive me Shador Sanders.

2385
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So what happened here?

2386
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 9: So okay? Atlanta Falcons have also released a statement and

2387
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 9: so I won't read all of it.

2388
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 8: But what happened is that Jax Olbrick went to his

2389
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 8: parents home and saw an iPad that had this information,

2390
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 8: so he caught it without people knowing it. He was

2391
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 8: like his father, Jeff Ulbrick was unaware that this data

2392
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 8: was exposed.

2393
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,759
Speaker 9: He was unaware that any of this was happening.

2394
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 8: But it was an open iPad that his son saw

2395
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 8: while visiting his parents' home.

2396
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 9: He wrote down the number and later used it for

2397
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 9: the print call.

2398
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 8: The Falcons did release a statement they are also not

2399
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 8: obviously supporting any of what happened, but they're not taking

2400
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 8: any action against their defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick.

2401
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,759
Speaker 3: So he did not have any knowledge of this idea.

2402
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 3: His son saw this and was just being a goofy

2403
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 3: kiss exactly.

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01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 9: I guess if we want to say goofy being nice shure.

2405
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, kids do things that you wouldn't

2406
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 3: do normally. But is that good enough for you? VJ

2407
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 3: can I'd be cynical, just really quick Monty on this.

2408
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 3: So an NFL defensive coordinator? Correct? Is that the title

2409
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 3: of the okay? I just want to make sure I

2410
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 3: get the titles.

2411
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 5: I so a defensive coordinator in NFL leaves an iPad

2412
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 5: around with sensitive information on draft weekend that doesn't have

2413
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 5: a code or doesn't have a lock or anything to

2414
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 5: it where anybody can just go see it and then

2415
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 5: take it information out of it.

2416
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 3: I just because that's what it sounds.

2417
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 9: That's what they're saying. I don't write, we don't. I mean,

2418
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying to make sure, Okay, all

2419
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 9: that is said is literally. The Falcon statement says that.

2420
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 8: Earlier this week, jacks Oldbrick, the twenty one year old

2421
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 8: son of defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick, unintentionally came across the

2422
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 8: draft contact phone number for Shador Sanders off an open

2423
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 8: iPad while visiting his parents' home and wrote the number

2424
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 8: down to later conduct a prank call.

2425
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 9: That's literally that's the line.

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01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 3: I know, no, got ya, I'm glad. Got to make

2427
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 3: sure you know.

2428
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 9: I'm just telling you like, there's no more to it.

2429
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 9: That's literally it.

2430
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 8: Jeff Olbrick was unaware of the data exposure or any

2431
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 8: faucets of the prank, and was made aware of the

2432
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 8: above only after the fact.

2433
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 5: That's the cethical part I want to sack is that

2434
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 5: the coach is that the coach the dad no idea

2435
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 5: and I get came across because the wording right came

2436
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 5: across open eyepad. So you're you're doing this and you

2437
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 5: get up in the league, I guess what walk away

2438
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 5: from the table and yes said like on TV, right,

2439
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 5: your son comes in really quick and right to down

2440
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 5: and then goes and then sits.

2441
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 8: Well, what I mean, like if i'm if I'm this

2442
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 8: guy's father, I'm thinking that my twenty one year old

2443
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,839
Speaker 8: son would not do that, that I could leave sensitive

2444
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 8: information and that my son would just like past.

2445
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 3: Oh my question is twenty one years old?

2446
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I don't you're not you know, I'm like,

2447
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying, but I feel like, how

2448
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 8: did you do this?

2449
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 3: What my question is, why would the defensive coordinator have

2450
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 3: that number?

2451
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 8: Only?

2452
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: I thought that these this phone, this phone, this exclusive

2453
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 2: phone was only connected to all the general managers of

2454
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 2: each of the thirty two teams.

2455
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 3: Why would a defensive coordinator have this number. I mean,

2456
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 3: he's not going to make up the coach.

2457
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Defensive coordinator is not going to make a phone call

2458
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 2: to a quarterback that he's on the team.

2459
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

2460
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 8: To me, no, I understand what VJ Is saying, and

2461
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying, and I think we're only

2462
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 8: getting a piece of story obviously, But to me, you're

2463
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 8: twenty one years old, I don't care, Like, how did

2464
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 8: you thought this was funny?

2465
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 3: There's you knew?

2466
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 9: You knew absolutely better.

2467
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 8: So even though the whole thing of like leaving your

2468
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 8: stuff out in the open, I totally hear you. But again,

2469
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 8: I would trust my twenty one year old son. You

2470
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 8: know what I do in this world, you know my job,

2471
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 8: you know how important this is. I feel like I

2472
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 8: should be able to leave all of this out in

2473
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 8: the open and you would look past it.

2474
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 9: That's what I guess.

2475
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 3: You found out a lot about it something right.

2476
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 9: Oh, No, I know also, idiot, relation.

2477
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 5: Found he found out a lot about how his son

2478
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 5: cused his job and what his dad does to support

2479
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 5: the family.

2480
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 9: I mentioned that.

2481
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 8: This was like the Internet sleuth's connecting it because he's

2482
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 8: in a video. Idiot, Yeah, you would have never been caught.

2483
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 8: He's in the video of the kid making the prank

2484
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 8: call the first.

2485
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 3: Place, because you're stupid, but he's in the video. Clenty clo, guys,

2486
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 3: you got to give it to him. Though.

2487
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 4: This is probably one of the best print calls ever.

2488
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: Honestly, But the prank call was sort of benign because

2489
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 2: all he said to him was, Hey, we're taking it,

2490
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: but you're just gonna have to wait a little bit.

2491
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 2: And then when he got off the phone, he said,

2492
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 2: what was that about.

2493
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:26,480
Speaker 4: It's the simplicity.

2494
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 10: If I'm not mistaken, this wasn't the only prank call

2495
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:30,799
Speaker 10: of draft night, Tyler Warren.

2496
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 4: I think it was from the same number, though suppose

2497
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 4: that's what everyone says. We're not sure.

2498
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 3: By the way, did you just see Tyler Glass now

2499
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: got removed?

2500
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 2: He was throwing a warm up pitch in the second

2501
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 2: inning and he's out of the game.

2502
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, wow, the Dodgers.

2503
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 9: It's a good thing.

2504
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 3: Other things cramp again? Or what's the latest with Tyler Glass?

2505
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: Now?

2506
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 8: Who knows because right now no one's paying attention to baseball.

2507
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 9: Steve, we got NBA playoffs in NHL.

2508
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 5: Lakers could save La today. They can save LA's weekend.

2509
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 5: I'll say yes, say LA's weekend. So the Lakers can

2510
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 5: save LA's weekend tomorrow morning. It'll be a lot better

2511
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 5: time in the safe if the Lakers winners gave the

2512
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 5: Lakers lose tonight. It's gonna be tough tomorrow morning.

2513
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 3: Here, I'll give you.

2514
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 8: A quick update on the scores, since we spent that

2515
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 8: whole time talking about the prank call the Lakers.

2516
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 9: No, no, no, this was good.

2517
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 8: Lakers are up guys on the Timberwolves thirty eight to

2518
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 8: thirty seven halfway through the second quarter.

2519
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 9: Forty one to thirty seven.

2520
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 8: Now, but Austin Reeves did pick up his third foul

2521
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 8: already for LA after LA challenged it against Rudy Gobert

2522
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 8: and they upheld it. So Austin Reeves does have three

2523
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 8: fouls right now. Lebron Jameson's twelve points, Julius Randalls sixteen points.

2524
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 8: The Knicks held on. They survived by who maybe a

2525
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 8: little help from the refs, I don't know, but the

2526
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 8: Nicks survived against the Pistons ninety four to ninety three.

2527
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 8: Jaylen Brunson a double double in the win thirty two

2528
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 8: points and eleven assist. Kate Cunningham a triple loss, a

2529
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 8: trip triple double.

2530
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 9: In the loss. Excuse me.

2531
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,879
Speaker 8: In the NHL, the Blues tied up the series against

2532
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 8: the Jets after winning today five to one, so that

2533
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 8: series is tied at to apiece. The Hurricanes are up

2534
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 8: on the Devil's two zero after the first period, and

2535
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 8: Carolina leads that series two to one. In baseball, Yes,

2536
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 8: Dodgers up on the Pirates four to two, top of

2537
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 8: the second inning.

2538
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 9: The Yankees just crushing.

2539
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 8: The Blue Jays eleven to two, top of the ninth

2540
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 8: in the Bronx, this is game one of their doubleheader.

2541
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 8: How about the Nationals. I mentioned earlier that the Mets

2542
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 8: were shutting them out like seven zero. Well, Nationals have

2543
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 8: tied the game, so it's seven to seven bottom of

2544
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,520
Speaker 8: the ninth inning against the Nationals in Washington.

2545
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 9: Games that have wrapped up.

2546
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 8: The Tigers did shut out the Oriels seven zero, the

2547
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 8: Twins did shout out the Angels five zero, and the

2548
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 8: Red Sox defeated the Guardians thirteen to three.

2549
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 3: Body, you're like it was seven and nothing. You like that?

2550
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 3: You like that?

2551
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 9: I cannot not do that, VJ.

2552
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 8: I cannot not you know what I mean, it comes naturally, naturally,

2553
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 8: can't help it.

2554
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 5: It's the first like cool animated that I've seen you today.

2555
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, I know last night was tough, and

2556
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 3: you know all this stuff.

2557
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 4: I know started I know, I know.

2558
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:02,759
Speaker 3: The first light.

2559
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 5: Monsie I saw today earlier, she'll feel a lot better.

2560
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: The Lakers lose this game, the rest of they lose. Okay,

2561
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 3: see it like I got you, Okay, I got you?

2562
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah you all well? Right now just updates you.

2563
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 2: Lakers have a six point lead now forty three to

2564
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 2: thirty seven. Again, I'm yeah, he's right now, So six

2565
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go in the first half.

2566
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:27,640
Speaker 3: There all right.

2567
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're going to get

2568
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 2: in start of our look ahead of this week. I mean,

2569
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 2: where are we going to be a week from now

2570
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 2: in terms of the NBA playoffs.

2571
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 3: We'll break it all down for you.

2572
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,960
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2581
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Speaker 2: to thank our crew today Monsey.

2582
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:06,520
Speaker 3: Very busy day for mons As always, best of the best.

2583
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 2: Chris was ready and armed with a great stat that

2584
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 2: I knew would infuriate VJ. Uh mission accomplished, Chris, Chris,

2585
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 2: we let we let Steve set us up?

2586
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah I did. He wanted to lead the show off

2587
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 3: with that.

2588
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, no, you asked me set us up

2589
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: when I try to do that and then Shay, did

2590
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 2: I just see you hugging VJ?

2591
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 3: And what happened? Yeah, there's a draft.

2592
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 5: I always got to come back. I got a couple

2593
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 5: of times about the defensive Vents trip. Yeah, because I

2594
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 5: love when they showed those highlights. Look at the get off.

2595
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 5: Watch his hand placement right there. He's gonna be able

2596
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 5: to do this, He's gonna I love the NFL draft. Man, Well,

2597
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 5: dn is what I play? Yeah, yeah, this is a

2598
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 5: weird play.

2599
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 4: It's a block.

2600
01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 3: It's a clean block. Clean Yeah, bucket though they they

2601
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 3: gave and they gave them a bucket.

2602
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:04,480
Speaker 4: Atrocious.

2603
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: This game is yeah, so like so that was called

2604
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:11,719
Speaker 2: goldtending because Lebron complained and they saw the replay.

2605
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: It was an absolute block. That ball wasn't going.

2606
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were giving it to us though because of

2607
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 4: a former. Again, we shouldn't be Okay, with this. They

2608
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 4: should get everything right and they should call everything, But

2609
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 4: it seemed like it was a play they were giving

2610
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 4: to us because they were wrong on to play before.

2611
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 2: Is that what the old makeup call? When the whole

2612
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 2: game is a makeup call, that's a problem exactly.

2613
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 4: That takes us to the Pistons as well.

2614
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Alright, So Lakers lead forty eight to forty one right now,

2615
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 2: five minutes to go.

2616
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 3: They are obviously trying to even up this series. All right, VJ.

2617
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 3: What about what got coming up?

2618
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 2: The Celtics against Orlando, Pacers against the Bucks are going

2619
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 2: to try to do what the Knicks did, uh and

2620
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 2: win a game on the road to give them a

2621
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: three to one series lead. Are the Celtics gonna win?

2622
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 2: Are the Pacers gonna win on the road?

2623
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Now?

2624
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 5: Give me Bean Town to night, give me champions. That

2625
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 5: what this means. They should look. They could have got

2626
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 5: game three. Game three is right in their hands. They

2627
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 5: could have got Game three.

2628
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 3: I think they closed.

2629
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 5: Well I know, but that they're only doing that because

2630
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 5: that's what Tom Thibodeau did to try to get the refs.

2631
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 5: This goes back to Phil Jackson and Greg Popovitch. They're

2632
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 5: the two main legendary coaches that started this, making sure

2633
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 5: the world new. We're telling the media, the refs through

2634
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 5: the media, we don't like the way you're calling the game.

2635
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 5: And we're important to the league, so you need to

2636
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 5: you need to do what we're saying to do. So

2637
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 5: give me, Give me Boston for championship, mental and championship.

2638
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 5: This Rolando team's fun, but they ain't want nothing.

2639
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 11: Bro.

2640
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 3: They don't know about Dave. How about the Bucks un guys?

2641
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 10: Before we move away from the Pistons a little too much.

2642
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 10: A writer for the Detroit Free Press has this apparently

2643
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 10: told that Chief crew chief David Guthrie told the Pool

2644
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 10: reporter uh Cody Cody Davis that fouls should have been

2645
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 10: called on Tim Hardaway Junior's three point attempt. You know

2646
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 10: what they should have during life play was judge the

2647
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 10: just hard Okay, let's see, it's a one point game

2648
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 10: and you get three free throws point.

2649
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:06,879
Speaker 3: So he would.

2650
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 2: Come back and come back again. This should be a

2651
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 2: pr nightmare for the n b A. But this is

2652
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: where when serious things like this happened, where a game

2653
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 2: literally ends with a now official that was there acknowledging

2654
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: that they blew it. This is where the commission conveniently hides.

2655
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: Why are you, Adam Silver.

2656
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 3: Who are you where you are right now?

2657
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: You're just still you're still complaining that all the negative

2658
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 2: talks about your league.

2659
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 3: It's because of the media. I guess the media.

2660
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 5: This is Barkley and and Kenny Smith and shacks fault today,

2661
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 5: Bucks Pacers, you.

2662
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 2: Know what, give me Bucks that lay there even this

2663
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 2: up because they didn't look good in those first couple

2664
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: of games.

2665
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 3: But and also they had one without daytime.

2666
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 2: People forget the Pacers who were in the Eastern Conference finals.

2667
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 3: Last in the East was a rec last the East

2668
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 3: was a wreck last year. You know, we know it

2669
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 3: looks good.

2670
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: Cleveland dominant well first of all, but people forget, but

2671
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 2: they're being up on a heat.

2672
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 3: Who you don't like being it look at I understand that.

2673
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, they did it without Mitchell right

2674
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: right right, No, No, Mitchell had an off game. Yeah,

2675
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: but Mitchell Mitchell was Mitchell was like four for fourteen shooting.

2676
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 3: Garland was out.

2677
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 2: But you know, you got two guys who are in

2678
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 2: the top what four finishers and the sixth Man of

2679
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 2: the year voting right that they've got players.

2680
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 3: Mane defensive and the defensive player and Nevin Mobile. Yep.

2681
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 3: So no, no, no, this this team. No one thinking

2682
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 3: that Cleveland is a contender. You know why because we're

2683
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 3: sitting here talking more about.

2684
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 2: A laker that the playoff loss in the history of

2685
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat in terms of point differential were down.

2686
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 3: Forty at one point. You know they were getting there. Man,

2687
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 3: that's but that Heat team. Listen, once you traded Jimmy Buckets,

2688
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 3: that was the end of your season. Once you traded

2689
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler. Yeah, like, you know you're not going I

2690
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 3: don't know. Cleveland looks fresh to me.

2691
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 5: Can we start to also have the conversation I tried

2692
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 5: to start about four years ago in Christmas about pat Riley.

2693
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna You're gonna love this.

2694
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: So I finished the show yesterday with Olden and we

2695
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 2: were talking about the playoffs and I said, all right,

2696
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,879
Speaker 2: right now, give me your give me your NBA finals,

2697
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: and and he gives.

2698
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 3: A thought he goes.

2699
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 2: Cleveland, Oklahoma City, and I'm like, okay, well, I mean

2700
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: those are the two number one seeds.

2701
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 3: That's not the NBA Finals the league's looking for. It's

2702
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 3: not what we're gonna get because if we're all in

2703
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 3: here talking about officiating and it's gonna be okayc in

2704
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Boston is gonna be the NBA Finals? You get the

2705
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 3: defended champions. You're sure it's not gonna be the Lakers.

2706
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, they don't. They they can't get

2707
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 5: reft to the finals.

2708
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 3: What is going on? They can't.

2709
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 5: It's just just just physical play. This is just physical play.

2710
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 5: But Lebron doesn't want anybody to touch them in and listen.

2711
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 5: I think and is a little mouthy. I think Aunt

2712
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 5: going at Magic Johnson and stuff like that.

2713
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, y'all, he's.

2714
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Gonna he's gonna do that answering the right thing. You

2715
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: got doing it until they call him.

2716
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2717
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 5: But I do like his moxie on the court when

2718
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't care how young I am. I'm not gonna

2719
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 5: take a back seat to you because you're the veteran,

2720
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 5: because then people are gonna say, I'm not ready for

2721
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 5: this moment. No, I'm gonna get up in here. You

2722
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna get up in your face. I'm

2723
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 5: gonna get up here. And that's why I love Kobe

2724
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 5: so much, because Kobe.

2725
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:19,959
Speaker 3: Was that young. You know, all these stories now where people.

2726
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 5: Go We're looking at this young kid, like, dude, you're crazy,

2727
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 5: and Kobe's like, no, Jordan, bet not look me.

2728
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 3: They're nineteen years old. And he goes out has thirty

2729
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 3: something points against him for the.

2730
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Lad in O eight when the Lakers got Palgasol and

2731
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 2: weird Lakers station here in La So we went to Denver,

2732
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 2: we went to Salt Lake, we went to San Antonio.

2733
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 2: We are in Boston, and you know, we have this

2734
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 2: real connection with Kobe. He was always really gracious with us.

2735
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 2: But when those playoffs began. VJ le Malone, he did

2736
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 2: not It's no eye contact. He wouldn't talk to anybody.

2737
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 3: Did talk to me. He talk about mama mentality. It's

2738
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 3: sunk in. I remember we were in Denver and was like, hey, Kobe.

2739
01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 5: Nothing, that's where that's when he had his face. Oh yeah,

2740
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 5: the under my face. Well I want that intensity. We'll

2741
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 5: see how this plays, all right.

2742
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: cVj got it all at about Schador Sanders early.

2743
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 3: Keep it here on Fox Sports Radio d