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Speaker 1: Now I want people to hear this because I started

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Speaker 1: fan also as an intern, Like my first time was

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Speaker 1: interning with Lifestyles of the Richard Famous with Robin Leech.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes. And I got fire edge or quit

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Speaker 1: in like three or four weeks because of my mouth,

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Speaker 1: and then got a job logging tate in at CBS

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Speaker 1: for fifty bucks a game. And I was trying to

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Speaker 1: stand up comedy in the city and that got me

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Speaker 1: an internship at FAM. And I want everybody here to

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Speaker 1: hear this, especially like any aspiring broadcast or or anybody

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Speaker 1: is firing in anything. When I got my internship through

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Speaker 1: Eric Spitz at w FAM, yeah, I decided, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to stand out. I'm gonna ask to do things.

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Speaker 1: And because we're all now I've you been an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: I realized too, like, man, we're all looking for good help.

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Speaker 1: We're all looking for somebody to stand up. So I

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Speaker 1: always tell the young guys, don't just be a facing

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Speaker 1: the crowd, like start a crowd, be your own crowd.

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Speaker 1: Stand up. So I would ask them, hey, can I

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Speaker 1: go to this press conference like a boxing press conference,

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Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, we're not We're not covering it,

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Speaker 1: but cherit well. Credentially you and I would just go

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Speaker 1: over there to ask the questions, right, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere or I would I would have to

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Speaker 1: cut the tape for guys like you are doing updates.

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Speaker 1: I would have to go learn how to cut the

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Speaker 1: tape and put them together. So when you were doing

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Speaker 1: an update and they said, all right, let's hear what

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Speaker 1: you know. Let's hear what the Giants coach has to say, right,

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Speaker 1: and there's a ten second clip, I would be the

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Speaker 1: one like cutting them literally like strips of tape, right

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Speaker 1: that's been recorded, like it's not digital like it is now,

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Speaker 1: and I'd have to literally tape them together. So right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's what I was doing. But I would stand

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Speaker 1: out and I offered to be on the w Fans

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Speaker 1: softball team. I my job would be to run for

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Speaker 1: my transcessa.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I asked to go to the draft. I

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Speaker 1: would take trancessor to the bathroom so fans would stop

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Speaker 1: them so you can get back in time for the

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Speaker 1: next pick. Like, those are my jobs. I want people

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Speaker 1: to understand that stand out. As a result, I was

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Speaker 1: one of I think five people got a second internship

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Speaker 1: at f AN and those other people were like Pod

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Speaker 1: Fritz who was like that Patrick Show. I think Steve

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Speaker 1: leave You might have been one of them. And I

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Speaker 1: think I don't know if I an Eagle was an

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Speaker 1: in turn also there, but obviously he's done a lot.

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Speaker 1: I worked a lot with thought Ion was, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he did like two of the most. There's

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Speaker 1: only been a few of us, and we all stood out.

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Speaker 1: So stand out is the is my point here. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: not just in sports but any business stand out. Just

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Speaker 1: don't don't just be a face in the crowd because

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Speaker 1: you'll just kind of get passed over. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more and like and I get like

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Speaker 2: there's a fine line, right, like because you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be a pain and you don't want to get

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Speaker 2: one people think this guy's I'm so annoying, right. You

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Speaker 2: have to make your more. You have to be you

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Speaker 2: and make your work. I get so many people, younger

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Speaker 2: people or college students asked me like, you know, how

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Speaker 2: can I do this? Or I'm trying to be like

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Speaker 2: this person. You can be inspired by that person, but

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Speaker 2: don't try to be anybody like you got to be you.

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Speaker 2: You got to do your thing and like to your point.

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Speaker 2: Like it's funny like when I got that job at

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Speaker 2: w f AN, I was kind of crafting the role

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Speaker 2: and I was just trying to do stuff and expand

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Speaker 2: my palette and learn and you know, be out there.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, hey, I want to you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to strut covering the Rangers, you know whatever

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Speaker 2: the Knicks went, their home whatever. So you know Mark Chernoff,

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Speaker 2: who was you know, ahead of the operations at the time,

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Speaker 2: and he was there, I think when you were there too,

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Speaker 2: he was ahead of you. He's like, all right, but

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Speaker 2: we're not going to cover parking. So you know, I

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Speaker 2: would go Quark on ninth day, would try to find

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Speaker 2: a spot because I would pay more for parking than

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Speaker 2: I was getting paid for the night to cover the Rangers.

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Speaker 1: Right right right.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, like you love it and you

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Speaker 2: do it. It was great experience and like it's it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't get I wouldn't trade any of

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Speaker 2: it for the world. It got me here,