WEBVTT - Porn & Parenting

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<v Speaker 1>Think like the inside of your baby pink behind our

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<v Speaker 1>love that doors crazy, pink like the tongue, like goos down,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe pink like the parrot as well. Think when you're

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<v Speaker 1>blushing inside baby pink.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the truth you can't I Hey, guys, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Nila, and we are really excited because we have

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<v Speaker 3>two special guests that we were lucky enough to get

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<v Speaker 3>on Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom's Bad Choices and I've been.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking forward to this for months. Yes, we've been plotting

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<v Speaker 4>on you, so please welcome Jet Setting Jasmine and King Noir.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having us, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>The bomb ass parents, King and Queen of Kink. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your title? Tell us your your handles, like your instant

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<v Speaker 2>handles and stuff. I'm at jes sitting Jasmine pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere at King the Walk.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're really excited to have them because not only

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<v Speaker 4>are they in the kink industry, the adult film industry,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're also parents.

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<v Speaker 2>They have their little baby. What's your baby's name?

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<v Speaker 6>Majesty here, I'm like, wait, I don't know the baby's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight week old Majesty is here. In the next room,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know we let the kinky parents.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I it's so funny because Jamila was actually the

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<v Speaker 3>one that put me onto you guys. And this was

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<v Speaker 3>like before I connected with him, Like, she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, have you seen them? Have you seen them? Look

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<v Speaker 2>how amazing like their lifestyle is. They are so open.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was in Florida and I happened to connect

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<v Speaker 3>with him on like an app and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, give me, look, this is the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's consense. I was like no, And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, how am I in Tampa? Does he

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<v Speaker 2>live here? I'm like, what the fuck are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>I like you am.

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<v Speaker 3>I Also my followers know that I'm like the Queen

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<v Speaker 3>of Tinder, is the queen of But I've retired recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of back on. But I have some bad experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the best. I have the best experiences. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we have them here.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's true, You're right, Tinder works very well for

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<v Speaker 7>me for people who are looking for sex.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, I'm sure I had a lot of BDSM session.

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<v Speaker 2>Book of sessions, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I when I when he when we were talking,

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him because I knew I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing on here?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, this is how I get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my work. What is BDSM.

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<v Speaker 7>Bondage, dominant sadism, masochism, submissiveness.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we're going to ask there's a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 5>that it's broken down.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to ask you that a lot because even

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<v Speaker 4>though we're both freaky parents, our terminology is not that on.

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<v Speaker 2>So educate us please. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really excited to be educated because we were looking

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<v Speaker 3>up stuff and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, wait, what the fuck does that mean? I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we don't. I want to know. I'm asked that.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how I connected with King and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>please can you be on my podcast? And here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like in June, yeah, and she like he

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<v Speaker 4>said yes, yes, I manifested this from Instagram when Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>works in the fa for us and we didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>the slide in the dance.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you guys meet just like this on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio show? On the radio show?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys are both just happening to be on

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<v Speaker 2>a radio show to get this.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was hosting a show called The Emotion Picture

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<v Speaker 6>and we were doing a show about behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 6>of porn, looking at how people and porn have relationships

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<v Speaker 6>or don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was the guest on the show, and so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how long ago was that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that, oh cool, Yeah, prior to this relationship, had

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<v Speaker 4>you ever dated anyone in that industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Or were you in that industry? No? Neither, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so the podcast you were on or the show

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<v Speaker 3>you were on, but I didn't have something to do

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<v Speaker 3>with that particular episode.

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<v Speaker 6>We kind of just explored all things relationships and love

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<v Speaker 6>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was on that show and Cinnamon Love was

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>His segment was pre recorded, so I was like driving

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<v Speaker 6>across the bridge in Tampa talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Interviewing him, had no idea what he looked like. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>you were just like just oh wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when the show aired, we had to find

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<v Speaker 6>a picture and you're like advertising, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right, I'll do the follow up on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do this further investigation. Thank you. Are you guys

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<v Speaker 2>both from Florida, No, neither one of us. I'm from

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<v Speaker 2>New York, what a Queens.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm from Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm not even far from each other. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've been living in Florida for a really.

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<v Speaker 6>Long time, and he's a newcomer down there, so you

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<v Speaker 6>were already out there in Jersey.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, I was. I was in Jersey. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 7>I knew one of the other hosts for over like

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<v Speaker 7>ten fifteen years, and at the time, Jasmine was working

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<v Speaker 7>on building her own company, doing parties, teaching pole dancing,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was doing a Rody Touch massages and working

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<v Speaker 7>doing my own parties. So they kind of was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we should we work together or something like that. That's

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<v Speaker 7>that's kind of what started off.

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<v Speaker 2>So prior to that, you weren't doing like there was

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<v Speaker 2>no film.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I was. I was doing for.

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<v Speaker 7>I was doing that, but it was at the time

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<v Speaker 7>I was I was more focused on I have a company.

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<v Speaker 7>It's called Central in the War and it's based basically

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<v Speaker 7>like when women go to like male strip clubs or whatever,

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<v Speaker 7>they're usually created by men with men's perception of what

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<v Speaker 7>they think women want, and it's usually what men want

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<v Speaker 7>to do to women instead of what women want to experience.

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<v Speaker 7>So I created Central in the War as a company

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<v Speaker 7>that was catering to black black women. That's actually how

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<v Speaker 7>I got the name King nowar I just went by King,

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<v Speaker 7>but people were like, yo, that's King from Central.

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<v Speaker 5>In the war, and it just became as yo, that's

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<v Speaker 5>King New War right.

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<v Speaker 7>And it was basically based on when women want to

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<v Speaker 7>go out and let lose have a good time. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>if men want to go out to a strip club

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<v Speaker 7>or like a massage parlor or something's boys will be

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<v Speaker 7>boys have a good time. If women do it, there's

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<v Speaker 7>all this judgment that's that's attached to it. And I

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to make a company that was just like women

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<v Speaker 7>can go out have a good time, enjoy themselves or

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<v Speaker 7>within the privacy of their own home having a right

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<v Speaker 7>to touch, massage or a fetish experience. That then would

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<v Speaker 7>just be like this is what you want you kind

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<v Speaker 7>of like shape it molded and design it to what

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<v Speaker 7>it is you want to experience, instead of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>you show up at this club and I throw my

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<v Speaker 7>dick on your shoulder, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 7>that's not sometimes you know, it's like if that's part

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<v Speaker 7>of the experience you want, you choose.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to just show up and someone's like

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<v Speaker 5>no choice, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, that's kind of how that started, and

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<v Speaker 7>we both looked at what each other was was doing.

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<v Speaker 7>It was kind of like, yeah, we might be able

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<v Speaker 7>to put these together. And that's how we came up

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<v Speaker 7>with fantasy flight parties.

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<v Speaker 2>What better way to have a woman's perspective than.

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<v Speaker 6>To thin and the same thing that's what was happening

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<v Speaker 6>with my events is that we would all the women

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<v Speaker 6>would be sitting around saying, like, you know, how do

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<v Speaker 6>men want their dick to be?

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<v Speaker 8>So like I don't know, yeah exactly, you know, questions

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<v Speaker 8>like that, and like, you know, well communicate with your partner,

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<v Speaker 8>but I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it just worked out that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>would be doing these parties and King would be doing

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<v Speaker 6>erotic touch in the back. And then when we had

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<v Speaker 6>a question that we really needed a men's perspective, which

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<v Speaker 6>the answer usually was every man is different and women

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<v Speaker 6>had we're having a hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Time realizing that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, oh, no, all guys think the same way,

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<v Speaker 6>but when they would actually hear it from a man,

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of like it's sunk in a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, they believed him because he had seen this,

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like a double standard, like women lost when

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<v Speaker 3>when men kind of know women are a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 3>but women we think men it's just it's a pussy,

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<v Speaker 3>just put it in or or you know, like there's

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<v Speaker 3>no no nuance, right exactly in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we created the party and baby I think.

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<v Speaker 7>I think at a certain point also, I had stopped

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<v Speaker 7>doing films and doing webcam stuff as much because I

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<v Speaker 7>was doing work in the community. So then people at

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<v Speaker 7>the parties would start to be like, how come all

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<v Speaker 7>porn is with black focus so stereotypical and it's just trash,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just like they would pick a pick it

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<v Speaker 7>all apart and just say, like, why are we always

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<v Speaker 7>treated this way?

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<v Speaker 5>Why do we never see black people kiss on film?

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<v Speaker 7>Why is it there's no real kinky stuff with black

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<v Speaker 7>folk unless it's also racist, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It was, Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>There are like it lacks level a lot of blackborns,

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<v Speaker 4>or you see a lot of interracial It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it's true. I've never even thought about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I see a lot of like beautifully shot porn

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<v Speaker 3>with white people and not ever with black people, or

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<v Speaker 3>if it is, it's usually black on white ryep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's never.

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<v Speaker 4>So would you guys say there's like discrimination within the

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<v Speaker 4>porn industry.

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<v Speaker 5>Or absolutely on many different levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you guys experienced that personally, like, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>we have royal Finnish films. So that's just exclusive your

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<v Speaker 2>ship for you guys.

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<v Speaker 7>And we both we both shoot with other companies if

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<v Speaker 7>they contract us to work for them. But it's like

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<v Speaker 7>we get to turn down all that discrimination or the

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<v Speaker 7>racist or the stereotypical shoots because like, we can make

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<v Speaker 7>what we want. So if you're not making something that's

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<v Speaker 7>coincides with who we are, then we could stay away

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<v Speaker 7>from it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's interesting because I live in the valley, so I

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<v Speaker 4>know a few porn stars myself, not just any like

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<v Speaker 4>educational as you too, educate educated, yeah, or that too.

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<v Speaker 4>I was told one time that a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>women or whatever people will shoot and then they'll get

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<v Speaker 4>the footage and later they will never they can't say

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<v Speaker 4>anything and won't be informed of the titles of the film.

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<v Speaker 4>So it could be like actually like nappy nappy, black

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<v Speaker 4>bitch sucks cock or some shit, but the the like,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't once you signed that away, once you film,

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<v Speaker 4>you have no say so and whatever they put on

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<v Speaker 4>that label.

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<v Speaker 6>So what we're we've been touring the adult industry for

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<v Speaker 6>people of color. We've been doing that here in the UK,

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<v Speaker 6>really educating not just performance but also consumers of exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what you're saying, kind of like consumers can help break

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<v Speaker 6>up that break up these stereotypes by asking for what

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<v Speaker 6>we want to see. But a lot of times, like

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<v Speaker 6>you said, like I didn't even think about that, we

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<v Speaker 6>don't know what you know, it's just what's given to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And we think like maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 6>Black people that are imporn don't want to shoot SA

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<v Speaker 6>see stuff, and that's not true. It's just that the

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity isn't available. And then educating performers on going through

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<v Speaker 6>that contract, Like so for us, we were you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we won't sign a contract unless we know exactly right,

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<v Speaker 6>and if we can't have it exact, then we'll say,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, no derogatory terms, no racial play, like all

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<v Speaker 6>of those kinds of things. And they don't have a

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<v Speaker 6>business without our body. Oh absolutely, you don't have a

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<v Speaker 6>contract without my input either.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, it's true. It's like this doesn't work without me.

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<v Speaker 7>I never know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of almost like I hate to compare it

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<v Speaker 2>to football.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, but I think about that, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, y'all need to just quit because they can't

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<v Speaker 3>have a team with that, right, Okay, just like you guys, like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're definitely the robot dog root.

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<v Speaker 5>Dog is going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, I see it looking it freaked if that shit

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<v Speaker 2>freaked me out. Earlier I was cooking. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>robot dog that well, what does it do? It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a real dog.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, it's my my my my stepworld is like

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<v Speaker 3>a real my stepdad got my daughter that for Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter's three, so now she's finally.

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<v Speaker 3>I just found it yesterday and I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>like busted out, and she's been scaring.

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<v Speaker 2>The ship out of me all day. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to control it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like look, Tamilla, she's like, I'm going to turn it on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to find the charger itself because it's low.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, I'm got a house break. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>love you, motherfucker off.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry anyway, going back to what you said, I mean porn.

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<v Speaker 7>We're literally sexual sexual athletes the same way football players

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<v Speaker 7>expected to perform on the field. We're expected to perform

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<v Speaker 7>on film a lot of times. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of a lot of jokes within the industry. It's like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh I get to the bed today, you know, not

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<v Speaker 7>like jagged Rocks or fall, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>like all these all these crazy places, but you're still

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to make it look beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>And sexy and all this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, we within the industry, you run into

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<v Speaker 7>just as much racism as you run into in everyday.

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<v Speaker 7>Like you know, porn is just the microcosm of the

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<v Speaker 7>larger society. And unfortunately, we live in a country where

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<v Speaker 7>racism is pretty much widely and openly accepted. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>the same, it's the same thing within the industry. I

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<v Speaker 7>was working for this one Uh well, I didn't actually

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<v Speaker 7>work for them. I was booked to work for this

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<v Speaker 7>one company, and basically they had never had a black

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<v Speaker 7>man on their site ever. I was going to be

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<v Speaker 7>the first black man on their site. And it's called asylum.

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<v Speaker 7>It's supposed to be in an asylum, and they usually

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<v Speaker 7>have doctors and orderlies. So for the first black men

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<v Speaker 7>that they were going to have on their site, me,

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<v Speaker 7>they were like, hey, let's make them a janitor.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That they're out of touch, out of touch people, they're

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<v Speaker 3>in touch, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Not And they tried to play it off like oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not like that. But literally, going through every single

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<v Speaker 7>one of their scenes before they ever had a person

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<v Speaker 7>of color or male of color on their site, was

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<v Speaker 7>always everybody was either an orderly or a doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>And I personally like doctor in the war that has a.

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<v Speaker 2>Real nice I thought it would be very nice, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So actually what wound up happening.

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<v Speaker 7>We wound up one of the times when we were

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<v Speaker 7>actually out here in La we shot with a really

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<v Speaker 7>really dope company called PARAPERB and collaborated with them, and

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<v Speaker 7>we were both sexy demented doctors and that was actually

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<v Speaker 7>that that was actually one of one of our very

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<v Speaker 7>popular scenes. So you know, it shows that people do

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<v Speaker 7>want to see black people have sex in all different roles.

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<v Speaker 9>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the funny thing.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not like, you know, we were going to be

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<v Speaker 7>getting all deep into neuroscience or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's just like so crazy that somebody can't see

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<v Speaker 7>past like black man doc, like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>In their fantasy.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like we we still just as a society,

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<v Speaker 7>have a lot of work to do, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>that that's one of the things that we're doing through porn.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. It's like in every single aspect.

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<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately, when you're black, you are the first black person

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<v Speaker 7>to do X, Y and Z, no matter how crazy

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<v Speaker 7>it might seem or menial or whatever. The however, people

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<v Speaker 7>kind of divvy all the work up, but you're still

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<v Speaker 7>going to be the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>And as the first one is a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 5>shit that you got to take for it.

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<v Speaker 7>But owning your own and putting out positive images of

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<v Speaker 7>yourself in ways that you know people can reflect and

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<v Speaker 7>it's like yo, to be able to bust your nut

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<v Speaker 7>and not have to feel racism at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>SS Like for real.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I mean, I appreciate you guys, because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even considered that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm happy that you're enjoying the work in that

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<v Speaker 4>industry because it is definitely racist.

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<v Speaker 2>Even I'm just I don't even I'm not even a

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<v Speaker 2>huge masturbator or porn bowyer, but like now that I

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, like going thro those categories pages, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see this ship. But yeah, that's a big job.

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<v Speaker 3>I do watch porn, and it's so crazy because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're both pretty pro black, but I've never, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>My brain like doesn't go there with porn. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just you don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think of I don't get outraged, but really

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<v Speaker 3>I should be, Like, now that I'm thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Wow, there isn't a lot of like black

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<v Speaker 3>love and porn. There isn't a lot of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people in powerful positions and porn, I mean, like playing

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<v Speaker 3>people in powerful positions.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it's in our regular media too, right, right, So

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<v Speaker 8>how yeah, it's almost like you accept that, but I

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<v Speaker 8>also but I feel like it's in our regular media,

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<v Speaker 8>but I feel like we have there is.

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<v Speaker 3>A there's in a shift, and there is been recently,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes recently, of course there's racists, but there's the racist

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<v Speaker 3>film more comfortable being racist than ever at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. But I just mean like

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<v Speaker 3>there's powerful there's women that are in powerful positions.

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<v Speaker 2>There's black men that are in powerful positions more.

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<v Speaker 3>So than there were twenty years ago, for sure, And

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<v Speaker 3>so it just just it just it just dawned on

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<v Speaker 3>me that I never like equated that to porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just kind of like, oh, well, torn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even thinking about.

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<v Speaker 7>It, I think because porn is still one of those

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<v Speaker 7>markets that you know, there's there's shame that some people

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<v Speaker 7>have actually like there's aspect of it, and so like,

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<v Speaker 7>literally porn is the only industry I can think of.

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<v Speaker 5>And we talk about this in our in our in.

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<v Speaker 7>Our series, like you can literally show up as a

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<v Speaker 7>director and be like, I'm not working with any black

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<v Speaker 7>women today.

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<v Speaker 5>You can literally say that on set and they be

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<v Speaker 5>like okay, you know, and rock with it.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you work for I don't know, Viacom and

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<v Speaker 7>you show up and you say that shit, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>get fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah right now.

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<v Speaker 5>True.

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<v Speaker 2>But is there nobody there's no like policing and porn

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<v Speaker 2>or how how does that work?

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<v Speaker 7>But it's when you think about sex and you think

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<v Speaker 7>about how like even going back to what you said,

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<v Speaker 7>like about about athletes, about how the black body is

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<v Speaker 7>perceived and how it's devalued and we're just a vessel.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like sexually we're a vessel or black man

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<v Speaker 7>is usually perceived as this dick that's there to please

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<v Speaker 7>a white woman, even if it's the white man watching

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 7>that black man please that white woman. You know, Black

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<v Speaker 7>women are usually perceived as as as lesser. So like

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<v Speaker 7>there's this one series called We Fuck Black Girls, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like as if like that somehow is something different than

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<v Speaker 7>having sex with other.

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<v Speaker 5>Women, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>And usually the black women are extremely disrespected. There's this

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<v Speaker 7>one where they like put Confederate flags on them, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>So what's wrong with these black women?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, trying to check and turn into other

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<v Speaker 2>God damn.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like if you if you have an industry

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<v Speaker 7>where that's where that's widely accepted and people look at it,

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 7>like even if people are like, oh, well it's a joke,

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, like that's that's not fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>So so let's talk about just what you said, So

0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 6>what's wrong with these black women?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>When you go to a set, sometimes you don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what you're shooting, right, and then like you said, there's

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.880
<v Speaker 6>there's a contract you know that you have to sign.

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<v Speaker 6>But even I say, you get all the way to

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<v Speaker 6>the end and then they drape the Confederate and you're like, well, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>not doing that.

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<v Speaker 9>You have to pay a fee for killing that shoot

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<v Speaker 9>probably reached the contract, you didn't, right, And so if

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<v Speaker 9>you're just just you've just performed all these sexual things

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 9>and then at the end they're like, and we won't

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 9>pay you, so you're gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 6>No, and you're gonna pay us for wasting. So not

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.199
<v Speaker 6>everybody is in the industry because you know they one

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 6>is like you know, for us one it's enjoyable too.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to bring a different look, a different feel.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, our intentions aren't solely financial, but if like

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<v Speaker 6>if that was how I had to take care of

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<v Speaker 6>my family, This is a part of my budget. The

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 6>shoot is in my budget, and now I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>under like I'm just gonna maybe hope that nobody sees it.

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<v Speaker 6>So so it's really difficult. You know, people say like, well,

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.200
<v Speaker 6>people need to stop doing you know, doing.

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Scenes that degrade us or what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hard choice to me because you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a choice. I almost like you're I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure they make you feel like, well, you're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to work again anymore, or this or.

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<v Speaker 7>That stories about like bull jangle, so performers in the

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<v Speaker 7>Vaude field circuit where you were black and you still

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<v Speaker 7>had to wear black face if you wanted to perform

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 7>and sing because you love to sing, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>So it's unfortunate. It's like I meant, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 7>so many rappers that if you actually spoke to them,

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<v Speaker 7>be like, wow, are you smart as hell?

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<v Speaker 5>I graduated college and you talk like that on the record.

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<v Speaker 7>Every other word is nigga is nigga at which you

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 7>have an extensive vocabulary, but you know that's what white

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:15.400
<v Speaker 7>folks want to hear, and that's what sells.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to cut you a check for Yeah, that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 7>That's that's the and that's why I say porn is

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<v Speaker 7>just a microcosm. So it's like things that we have

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<v Speaker 7>to confront on every single field of play or you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we don't get any progress anywhere.

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<v Speaker 10>So be good consumers if porn, purchase it, if you

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<v Speaker 10>watch it, and you know, if there's a company that

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 10>you really like, just ask them, email them and ask

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 10>them to see black people doing other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you know, like I really love the quality of

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<v Speaker 2>your shoes too.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be great if you and you know, wherever

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<v Speaker 6>your fantasies can take it.

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<v Speaker 2>About that, I want to do that here. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I have another question.

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<v Speaker 4>So obviously you guys kind of met in somewhat in

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 4>this industry already, Like, how does that affect your relationship?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you guys like to have an open relationship? Are

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 4>there insecurities because of it? Because of the nature of

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 4>your work? And how does that? Do you have rules

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<v Speaker 4>around your because like I know, I've seen like stuff

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<v Speaker 4>with you and her and you are and other women.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you uh like have played with other men? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you guys have agreements surrounding that or how does

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<v Speaker 4>that work?

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<v Speaker 6>So we we met in the industry, so that that's one.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, you know, we're not going to in some

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<v Speaker 6>form of industry, and we've I've developed like my role

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 6>in the industry through our relationship, so that's not an issue.

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 6>Our work stuff, And we also came into our relationship

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 6>me exploring different styles of relationships, and King was already

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:02.640
<v Speaker 6>established as polyamorous, so no surprises there.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is your first polyamous relationship. It is too,

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I've been kind of in living kind of

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 6>alternative lifestyles within monogamous relationships for a long time, but

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 6>never knowing like what was happening or what I was missing,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 6>or or even.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Thinking like gosh, like I'm going to be with this

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 2>person forever. Okay, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Guess I could do it, you know, but thinking those

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 6>thoughts were really really natural for women to have or

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 6>just for people to have, like you know, oh, this

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 6>is just like maybe cold feet or something like that.

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 6>But then meeting him, meeting other people in lifestyle experiencing

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 6>different things that I was like, oh, you know, no,

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 6>it's like you shouldn't feel that way. If you feel

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 6>that way, then maybe you need to be either with

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 6>the wrong person or there's another style of life, another

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 6>lifestyle that may work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, I don't really consider myself polyamorous.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have that yearning to love lots of people

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<v Speaker 6>in a very very strong, intimate way. I am more

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 6>like to play with other people and even more so

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 6>to work with other people. I get totally turned on

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 6>by the fact that we make money being with other people.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of like my big thing. And can

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you can explain yourself better.

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<v Speaker 7>Then I definitely get to turn on from the money

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 7>aspect as well. But I've been Polly ever since I

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.239
<v Speaker 7>was probably as far back as I can remember. I

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 7>was never the jealous type, and I kind of always

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 7>go back to this relationship I had in high school

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 7>where my girlfriend she was exploring primarily with her bisexuality,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 7>and she was kind of like, I don't know how

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 7>to tell you this or whatever. I was like, go,

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 7>I'll have one, do you. You know what I'm saying,

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 7>Like male or female. If you're intracted to somebody, like

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 7>I want you to be happy, so get to know them.

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 7>And then off of that, she was just kind of

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 7>like cool, So she started like bringing her friends to me,

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 7>like you should hang out with my man because he's

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 7>real cool like that, you know what I'm saying.

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 5>And I've always.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 7>Enjoyed getting to know new people, and like just my

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 7>capacity for being able to talk to different people or

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 7>manage relationships has always been more vast than other people.

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 7>The swinging stuff I got started with real early, because

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean I got involved in this industry when I

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 7>was legally able to do so, so since I was eighteen,

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 7>So I was kind of like, not that it was

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 7>just like all just poured on me at once, but

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 7>as different parts of it open to me, Like I

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 7>really my first real experien instance where they was through

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 7>like cuckolding, which.

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 5>At the time, you know, you're like eighteen and you're trying.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>To I need to educate me, please care listeners.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 7>Cut holding is when a man likes to watch his

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 7>wife with another man, got it. So there are different

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 7>levels and extremities to it, though, like sometimes it's because

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 7>that man feels inadequate.

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it's because.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 7>That man just really likes watching his wife be pleased,

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 7>so sometimes they'll join in.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they watch from afar.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 7>For me, it was primarily because like I've always just

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 7>been very dominant, so it was more like men who

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 7>wanted to be belittled or humiliated as I was with

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 7>their wife.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 5>So you know, I got my.

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 7>First work in the industry doing that, and that kind

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 7>of led me into the BDSM stuff and the bondage

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 7>and dominance and submission and all of that, and at

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 7>the time, like trying to explain to my friends who

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 7>are just kind of like you know, doing the basic

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 7>eight trying to get a nut, they to do that too, though,

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 7>scared the.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Ship out of them.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 7>When told, they were like, what what do you mean?

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 7>That doesn't make any sense to me?

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, is that my dog?

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Again? I think you might need Okay, I'm yelling at

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>your dog. Your dog has his name is Chip? Guys, okay, appropriate.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Robot dog holding them past.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Jackson video back. Remember she's like in Tokyo and she's like, no, no.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have Are you sure it's not Michael and

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>her the world?

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Sorry, I'm pulling that ship up on Okay, okay.

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 4>So that brings me to another question, because I had

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 4>this conversation with somebody briefly over the weekend. It was

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 4>somebody I didn't know, and she was kind of young

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 4>and like immediately when she made the comment.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, eh, never mind.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if I don't know if I

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 4>was like I had to go back because I drove

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 4>up north this weekend for like two days, and I

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 4>drove back. I had a client up there and my

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 4>best friend was up there. But I don't know if

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I was mentioning like I'm interviewing this really cool coup

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah blah, and I was like a friend

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 4>with a friend, and she basically.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Made a comment about, like to the effects of I.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Feel like certain people, oh, like people in the porn

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 4>industry or like sex industry, something's wrong with them. They

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 4>have something wrong with them. They you know, like they've

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>experienced some type of trauma.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Trauma.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Obviously I'm not in the porn industry directly, but it

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 4>immediately rubbed me the wrong way because I've always been

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>a very sexual woman, even as a girl, Like I remember, like,

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I've always.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, I've always been really open. I love people.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 4>I love like, I just genuinely love people, doesn't matter

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 4>like man or woman. But if like souls connect, they connect,

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 4>and that could be on different levels intimately, like sexually,

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>like attraction has a lot of different you know, that's true.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, for a brief moment, I saw

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 4>myself like getting irritated and engaging in conversation with this

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 4>like twenty five year old girl.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>But then I was like, I don't need to say that.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not ageist.

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know just say they like like say it

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 4>because she's twenty five, but you know what I mean.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 4>But I was just like, not necessarily like, I understand

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 4>where you're coming from. I do know a lot of

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 4>like strippers who've had a dark past. They a lot

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 4>lesbians who maybe have been like had trauma. But that's

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 4>and you know, some people are comfortable in what they do,

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 4>and that's.

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Just how they choose to explore.

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, just because you're not comfortable with it

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and it makes you feel uncomfortable, doesn't necessarily make it

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 4>feel like, you know, doesn't mean that there's something wrong

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 4>with everybody who has, you know, a sex positive perspective?

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you, like, have you how.

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Do you deal with people who have like limited and

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 4>closed minded perspectives or you know, label you you must

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 4>or like or has there been some stop or something

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 4>that you think, like directly because for a long time

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I have close ass friends who would tell me like,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I was my twenties. I probably

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 4>was fucking way too much for no reason, but like,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, like maybe there might be something wrong, maybe

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 4>trying to fill avoid I.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, but at least I considered it. I was

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>rationalizing with myself.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 4>But being like the like socially, you know, there's there's

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 4>there's judgment, and there's labels put on people who who

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 4>are sexually comfortable and.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Even with my closest friends even until now.

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I sometimes I try to explain to them certain experiences

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 4>by because I'm like, this is a good story and

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 4>they're like, oh, you know what Jamilla's you know, maybe

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 4>you need to look for relax and sit and meditate.

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this was my choice and I wanted to

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 4>do it because it was fun. So like how like because.

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I've literally had to sit with myself and be like,

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>has anything happened to me?

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Do I need to have like avvolation and if needs something,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 4>I've like harbored deep down in my toes that I

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 4>can't remember, and that's why I'm this fucking But like,

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 4>what's your experience with that?

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 6>Like, so let's talk about this. So my background, I'm

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 6>a therapist, Okay, that's right. Yeah, I'm currently practicing on

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 6>licensed practice.

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 4>So you're practicing justine like with sexual like sexual not everything.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay m hm.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 6>So from you know, general anxiety to serious trauma the

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 6>whole gamut. People have trauma traumatic experiences.

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, in general, there are.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 6>There's no high propensity in this industry, In that industry.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's I mean.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 6>That person's been here really drawing a picture with a really, really,

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 6>really broad stroke. There are definitely people in the industry

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 6>that are probably more open to talking about their trauma

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 6>because you will find that in this industry people that

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 6>have traumatic experiences have used porn or the sex work

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 6>to empower themselves to take back control of their sex, sexuality,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 6>things that may have been violated as young.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Adults, what have you.

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 6>But don't I don't know what the rape statistic is

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 6>or the sexual assault statistically with some like, you know,

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 6>like one, let's just say, like one in ten women

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 6>have had some type of sexual inappropriate advance towards them.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 6>Not one in ten women are in the porn industry.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 6>So and again, don't take those numbers. I'm just kind

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 6>of drawing, you know, drawing a picture here that just

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 6>as many women in the porn industry are just as

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 6>many women at your local community college that have, you.

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Know, had some type of trauma.

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 6>So to suggest that it's just wrong, But you know,

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 6>when we do talk to and I do a lot

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 6>of therapy for people that are in the industry or

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 6>in the lifestyle because they feel comfortable like they don't

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 6>have to they could tell their good story, and I'm like, yeah,

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 6>like that's a good story, right, and you know, they'll

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 6>say that being in the industry has allowed them to

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 6>have sex on their own terms or you know, the

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 6>things that maybe they were shamed about, uh, you know,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 6>not even having trauma. Just people like yourself that have

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 6>a high sexual appetite. There's no quota on how much

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 6>sex you're allowed to have. You know, if you do

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 6>pass this many, then y yeah, there's I mean, there

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 6>really is no there's no number. But because we're just

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 6>told to keep that number low whatever, and we don't

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 6>even know what low is, right, then you have this

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 6>shame that's put on you, you know, and so then

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 6>you're like, you know, it's something wrong with me, and

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 6>you're functioning.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that you're gainfully employed, your children.

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 6>Are well taken care of, it look beautiful, your skin looks,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 6>but you're taking care of yourself.

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>So that that number is so arbitrary is just like

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>placed on you by society.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 6>So I think that people have that idea that people

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 6>who have more sex or people.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>That are don't care, you know, don't care.

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 6>What people think, something must be wrong with that. And

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 6>so I think that's where that idea comes from. But

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 6>without a doubt, you know, Just like if we were saying, like, well, accountants,

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 6>I hear accountants, you know have high levels of sexual

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 6>side like yeah, you know, and there's must be something

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 6>wrong with them to want to play with numbers all day.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Nothing that happened to them when they were younger, you know.

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 6>But as far as my own experience, I've definitely have

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 6>and it's sadly I can say, like most women have

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 6>had some type of inappropriate sexual contact, advanced non consensual

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 6>sexual event that happened to me. That's not why I

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 6>went into the industry. I got into the industry after

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 6>what I was well into my thirties. I think those

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 6>traumatic events have shown themselves in other ways.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>But I've been, you know, as a therapist. I've also

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>believed in going.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 6>To therapy, So I've handled that stuff the way that

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 6>people should, kind of a tree additional model. And I

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 6>still find porn in the adult industry and adult entertainment

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 6>to be exciting and fun. And I don't feel like

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm drawing on it based on those experiences or because

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 6>of those experiences.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I agree with you one hundred percent. I

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 5>think if.

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 7>If you looked at it like everyone in our industry,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 7>like porn does not have some sort of like lock

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 7>on people who've experienced sexual trauma. You know, if you

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 7>just look at people who've experienced sexual trauma and all

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 7>those people are in porn, there'd be no one to

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 7>watch it because we'd all be in it, right, you know.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 7>It's it's unfortunate that people do at the same time,

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 7>you know, like what we come to now know is.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 5>Like slut shaming.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 7>Usually it's because they themselves feel that they can't get

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 7>out of their box or they're ashamed of what they

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 7>do behind closed.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Doors, and they're like, damn, I wish I mean, I

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 5>really throw it down.

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 7>I wish I could do it on camera too, But

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 7>you know, I don't have that confidence or my family

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 7>or how I look at myself will change.

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 5>So, you know, I don't think that there's any more.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 7>But I definitely agree with what Jasmine said that there

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 7>are so many people in our industry who are comfortable

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 7>in their own skin that they're willing to share their

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 7>story because they feel like their story can help others.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 5>And I think it's the same with most artists period.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, like if you speak to people who are musicians,

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 7>they're willing to share a lot of traumatic stories with

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 7>you because they're in touch with that part of themselves

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.919
<v Speaker 7>and also look at what they do as art as

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 7>a way to overcome their.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 4>Trauma, celebrating even for us this podcast, the first thing

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I asked for, like, bitchalla, honestly want to be you know,

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 4>because we are moms and that's a whole different thing

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 4>like your mom. You can't hate that way. You're not

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 4>supposed to have that much sex, you know, and there's

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 4>like all these like especially for women and moms, and

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, so I've found that through like being honest

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 4>and business. Yeah, maybe somebody somewhere I'll be like, you know,

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel that's bad about the ship ended last week.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 2>But another question, because I heard you say.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Wait, I have a question, because I don't think we

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 3>got to get to the question that you actually asked

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 3>them before, which I'm interested in, is when we talked

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 3>about you got your guys's relationship, how do you deal

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 3>with do you I mean, I mean sure.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming, I'm not assuming. Let me just not frame

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>the question this way.

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys experience any sort of insecurities and how

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 3>do you deal with them? Like what are the rules

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>of your openness? Do you like, if he came home

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 3>after having like sex with somebody else, do you guys

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 3>talk about it or is it just like, you know,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>what happened and we're going to take a shower and

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 3>go to sleep, take a shower.

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 7>We're so different, and I think that we're both very

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 7>different in the opposite.

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 5>Way than people think.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if.

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 7>If she goes out with somebody, I'm like, oh, give

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 7>me all the details, please, you know, I mean, it

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 7>turns me on, you know, like especially I think also

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 7>because like especially when we first started, because this was

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.439
<v Speaker 7>something like a lifestyle, I have been living like I'm

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 7>like vicariously living through her first experiences all over again.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, yo, what happened? Like, YO, tell me

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 5>all about.

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 7>It's like, I don't want to tell you, but you know,

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean, we do have certain rules that that we set,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 7>and those rules can change over time in one.

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 5>Way or another.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 7>The main one that we have is being open and

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 7>honest with one another, even if it makes the other

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 7>one of us uncomfortable. I think one thing that I

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 7>always say is that jealousy is a natural human emotion.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Envy is dangerous right. And it's funny because there have

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 7>spend times when Jasmine has been with other people sexually,

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 7>and none of it has remotely made me as jealous

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 7>as when she had this friend and they went to

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 7>the gym together.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 5>And I was rich.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 11>I was like, but I want to go to the gym, though, Like,

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 11>but you don't go to the gym until nighttime, and

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 11>I like to work out in the morning.

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 5>Like if.

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:31.919
<v Speaker 7>Hey girl, I'm terrible at five in the morning, I'm

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 7>still up from the last night, so I shouldn't be

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 7>at the gym.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 5>But but that's true.

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 7>It's just like the things that can make us jealous

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 7>of somebody else, we always make it like it's this

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 7>sexual thing and this that and the other. Like I

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 7>love when she's pleased, whether it's through me, whether it's

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 7>through someone else, and it doesn't always have sexual sex

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 7>isn't the only things that thing that pleases us in life,

0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 7>you know.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 5>So I just love seeing her happy.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 7>I love knowing that she's content with life and living

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 7>her best life like that. Legit makes me happy and

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 7>that's what I want for her, because that's what I

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 7>feel love is to me. Love isn't like you gotta

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 7>do everything in your life with me, or that shit

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 7>ain't worth nothing, you know what I mean.

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 5>Like that, to me, that's not love, that's control, you

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 5>know exactly.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 7>So it's like when you when you do get these

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 7>natural feelings of jealousy, like we're all going to have them,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 7>whether you have an open relationship or you're completely monogamous

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 7>or whatever different levels you have, but usually it's about

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 7>your own ship, and mine was like in that situation,

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 7>it was just like I really enjoy working out with her.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 5>She's really she she pushes me, she tells me like, yo,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 5>your foremost off and ship, you know what I mean.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 12>Like she's good like my boys don't care about that,

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 12>you know what I'm say. So Like in that particular situation,

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 12>I was just like, Okay, well, you know, I'm not

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 12>waking up at five in the moment, you know what

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 12>I mean, Like, that's not gonna happen.

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 5>So maybe she'll help me in other ways.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 7>And it's more about myself than something she's doing, because

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 7>it's not like she was sneaking off to the gym

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 7>with her friends, you know what I mean.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 5>So no, but I mean, to me, this.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 7>Is always a good example when I speak to people

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 7>who are like, yeah, I want to try an open

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 7>relationship or my first three soon, or this or that

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.959
<v Speaker 7>or the other, like you're gonna have a moment where

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 7>you are like, I don't know, you know what I mean,

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 7>You're gonna have that moment, but it's like, how do

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.720
<v Speaker 7>you process that moment? How do you work through that moment,

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 7>and how do you benefit from it in the sense

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 7>of like how do you use it to strengthen your

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 7>relationship instead of break up over a fucking gym membership?

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, I get jealous, but it usually has

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 6>nothing to do with him and has nothing to do

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 6>with the other person. It is because of something I'm

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 6>not doing. So like maybe a couple of times if

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 6>like he like went out on a date and I

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 6>didn't have anything to do somewhere, Yeah that's I mean,

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 6>And I'm like, well, why.

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Do I care so much?

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 6>Like I knew he was going I don't feel I

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 6>don't feel like my relationship is threatened, but it's because

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm bored and like this is who I would hang

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 6>out and you know, so so it would be you know,

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 6>reasons like that.

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's not it's definitely not an insecurity.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 6>I don't think that we could be in our relationship

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 6>if we didn't have confidence in ourselves and each other

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 6>and in the relationship. But you know, there are some

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 6>people who don't really want the best for our relationship

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 6>or don't understand open relationships, and that kind of can

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 6>get that can get a little annoying and taxing. Sometimes

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, we won't we'll see it for for the

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 6>other person. So you know, it'll be someone who's making

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 6>some really funky moves, and he'll be excited because like, oh,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, this person is you know, really good looking

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 6>and we have a great rapport and I'm like, she's

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 6>moving a little funny, you know. But then it's kind

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 6>of like, well, is it because it's someone else, Like, no,

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's that, And so sometimes we have

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 6>to let these things play out.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 2>So like told you that this was being funny.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 6>But you know what the nice thing is is that

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 6>he'll come and he'll say you were right, you know,

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 6>and I saw it for myself and the same thing

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 6>with me, Like, you know, he'll say, like, don't you

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 6>think it's a little interesting that this person you know

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 6>didn't say hello to me, like, why would you do that?

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 6>We are, Yeah, we're a unit. It's obvious, we've discussed this,

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 6>but they try to throw shade. So those type of things,

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, people get really focused on, like what about us?

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the external.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 6>Factors that are a little bit more challenging than just

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 6>like he and I think about, you know, our relationship.

0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 7>I think like at this point, I've always believe like

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 7>fool's fall, you know, like if you stand for something,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 7>if you stand for love, you stand in that relationship,

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 7>like you'll be able to work through anything because you're

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 7>standing on a strong foundation. And our foundation is strong.

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 7>So it's it's way more like it's funny people have

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 7>a less of a reaction to me being in porn,

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 7>then they do it to me being in an open relationship,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 7>you know, like they but like and not even that

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 7>it's normal porn to them. They just be like, oh,

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 7>that's some other shit, you know what I mean. But

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 7>when it's an open relationship, they then look at Jasmine

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 7>as an adversary instead of like we try to build something.

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 7>You know, she ain't Jazz is understanding of my lifestyle.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm understanding of Jasmine's lifestyle. So someone else is in

0:45:55.200 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 7>the mix or whatever, like we're not enemies were but

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 7>most like you.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's what people probably.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 7>Think, like, No, but I'm talking about people who are

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 7>interested in one of us. Usually those those people, they

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 7>before it ever even escalates to anything of worth, they

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 7>already shot themselves in both feet and both needs because

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 7>because they're like, you know, just as Jazz said, like

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 7>maybe a woman is approaching me talking to me, but

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:38.399
<v Speaker 7>you don't speak to Jasmine or they.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Won't say like like how is she? Exactly? You know,

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 2>how is your day? How are your kids.

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 5>Care about all around them? How's your kids? How's your mom?

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Again?

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>And we don't we don't lift each other up, And

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 3>so I probably I would assume is that a lot

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 3>of the women that maybe approach are you know, it's

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a competition to them. I feel like,

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 3>oh maybe I could take him. You know, it becomes

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>like does he really love him? Let me test the limit,

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 3>let me test him to see if he'll stand for her.

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 5>And that's but I.

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Think, no, exactly, I think, of course, like because I

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 3>think we did an episode about open relationships and just

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the idea of ownership, and people want to own you,

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>and they just can't understand that you guys don't own

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 3>each other, but you guys still love each other and

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 3>you've chosen each other, and it's just like I think,

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's an interesting.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting idea, just a lifestyle.

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Because even for me, like I I came, I was

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 3>in a relationship for seven years, and throughout those seven years,

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to have sex with other people, and I

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 3>spoke to him about it and it just never came

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 3>to be. Later to find out that he was having

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 3>relations with many people, and I was like, well, damn nigga,

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 3>like I told you, like and now I don't want

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 3>to do that with you because now I don't trust you.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.479
<v Speaker 3>So then leading out of that, like, I'm like, okay,

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to be I think I have to be

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 3>in an open relationship.

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine also.

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Bindly and jealous, but that's I'm I'm jealous, but I'm

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>not probab jealousself.

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>You didn't have someone liked good lie that.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>But I can't even say that though, because even with

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 3>my last situation, I just was dating someone else. It's

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 3>the first person I've dated since that relationship, and we

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 3>have had a very open relationship, Like I asked him, have.

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 4>You have to someone?

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if that's someone cool, and there was no argument

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>about it. But for me, I really enjoyed that.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 3>But I also realized my e how attached to my

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 3>ego I was, and like I was like I would

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I would get it would hurt me a little bit.

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 3>But then I was like, well, I'm glad that I

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>have a choice, Like he's not robbing me of my choice,

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Like he's telling me what he's doing, and I can

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 3>either choose to stay here or I can choose to

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 3>walk away. And I realized from that situation that I

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>have to kind of lead every relationship at least for

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>me like that because I want to confront my jealousy

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to be jealous. And I realized

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 3>more than just jealousy, it's really my ego. I realize

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of it has to do with my ego, like, oh, well,

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 3>what is she doing? Then I can't do well, why

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 3>what's so? What's so great about her? And I'm like,

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 3>this is a good woman, is not my enemy? No,

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Like it has nothing to do right, It has nothing

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 3>to do with her and everything to do with me,

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.720
<v Speaker 3>And I think once once you've been able to open

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>yourself up like that like you guys have, I mean,

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>it must feel like freedom, honestly, Like.

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 7>It reminds me of when we were doing when we

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 7>were doing our parties all the time. I mean, we

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 7>still do fantasy flight parties. Make sure you book on

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 7>everybody out there and podcasts, man, Yes, but when we

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 7>do when we do our fantasy flight parties, one of

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 7>the questions I would get would be that, like, what

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 7>what is it that this woman does that I don't do?

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 5>And I remember one time.

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 7>You asked the ladies, like, how many of you have

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 7>looked at your own vagina right?

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 5>And hardly anybody said that they had right.

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 7>And so then I'm asking, like, you've been with more

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.399
<v Speaker 7>than one man where all their dicks exactly the same?

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 7>Hell no, So why do you think every vagina is

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 7>the same?

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 7>And it's like this whole thing that I just got

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 7>a message recently from a woman who's trying to figure

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 7>out a situation with a partner, and it's just like,

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 7>maybe she's not doing something different. Maybe it's not the

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 7>feel or whatever. It's just people are different and nobody

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:36.280
<v Speaker 7>is the same, whether it be inside, outside, emotionally, anything,

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 7>and if that person is looking for something else, it

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 7>doesn't always mean that it's an affront to you. But

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 7>once they're dishonest about it, they fucked up, and that's

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 7>the bad part of that.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I have an example of that.

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 6>So early on in our relationship the birthday sex lady. Okay,

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 6>there was a lady that he shares the same birthday

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 6>with and they will kind of hook up around their birthday,

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 6>and so she likes she's also the you know lady right, Oh,

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 6>well she's around January too.

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I like naming them. So this there was one moment

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 2>that she likes. Anal said, I don't.

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 6>I am not in love with it, like you know,

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm getting familiar with it, but love it like no,

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 6>And that's something like he should be able to try.

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if I was guying, I had to. I mean,

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 6>I've done drop on scenes and it's really awesome to

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 6>do it, but like to receive it not.

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work for that way for me. So you know,

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, I'm like, damn, like she can take

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 2>it up the ass and I can't try harder. Yeah,

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, I don't want to try. I don't

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 2>like it. I mean, I don't hate it, but I

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 2>don't love it.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 6>And we know, you know, we talk about like with sex,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 6>and it feels so much better if you are enjoying

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 6>what you're doing.

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 2>So who am I to stand in between him and

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 2>her ass?

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 6>Right?

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna be in competition with with that.

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 6>There's other women that he stated, like the one that

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 6>likes to play like basketball and boxing, and she's like

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 6>low key, like you know, she's like the gym, like

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 6>the gym lady was, you know, to me, I don't

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 6>want to do that ship. I don't want to No,

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to spar with you.

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to fuck. I don't want right, that's.

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.479
<v Speaker 6>Not fun for me. But it doesn't mean there's nothing

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 6>wrong with me because I don't want to do those things,

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 6>and there's nothing wrong with him for wanting to want

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 6>to do those with a woman I like to I

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 6>like to zumba, right, So that's mine, that's my I

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 6>love I love it.

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, you know, I can't like dance anymore.

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 6>Like I don't want to go late out out late

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 6>at night dancing so I can get like a little

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 6>taste of like loud music and movement. Yeah, I got

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 6>a couple of them. He won't ask him you want

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 6>to go to He's like, I'm not doing that. He

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 6>just looks crazy. I'm not doing again, And.

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Who is he to stand in between me and my zoom? Yeah,

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's kind of understanding that you're never going

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 2>to be everything to.

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And that's why I like this relationship because I

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 6>don't want to be and I feel obligated to trust

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 6>too much and being I think like this style of

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.280
<v Speaker 6>relationship is really good for women that are a little

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 6>bit older, have children, have businesses, have a lot of

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:42.760
<v Speaker 6>responsibility that and maybe don't you know, just don't want

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 6>to be everything to every single person because there are

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 6>times in my life where I feel like, you know, this,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 6>kidneys something, that kidney something, my job needs something, my

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 6>family needs something, my man needs something. But if everybody

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 6>could get a little bit of their satisfaction independently, then

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:58.280
<v Speaker 6>I can also.

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:03.439
<v Speaker 2>So I'm okay, would that? Yeah, I want a question.

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of questions. I know, I got

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions pertaining to this topic.

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I know you mentioned like birthday anal girl,

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Like how how like that's.

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 5>An awesome superhero name girl?

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>She comes found your birthday birthday?

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Literally has there or is there currently like on either

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 4>side or together like a long term person that everybody's

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 4>cool with you like respects the relationship, respects you.

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 2>You guys know maybe you guys do stuff together.

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Maybe not, but it's like a like, have you maintained

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 4>a consistent like girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever girlfriend outside

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 4>of your relationship.

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>And are there rules and are there rules around that?

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Like if she.

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Had a boyfriend that had been around for like the

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 4>last five years, but he was totally respectfully totally cool

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 4>with you came to Christmas, Like how is that?

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that okay? Or is it like okay?

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 7>Would be unfortunately, like for example, we had we had

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 7>somebody that we both played with a little bit. I

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 7>was dating her more, but she had a primary partner

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 7>that in one instant she ruined it for all of

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 7>us because she said something to the effect of she

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 7>was gonna do something that was not really permitted in

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 7>their relationship with her primary partner, and well, for us,

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 7>it just debted it. Like for us, it killed it

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 7>for us because we were like, well, that's your person.

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 7>What you're gonna do for us? I mean, how you

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 7>gonna treat us. I feel like that's been one of

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 7>the issues that we've had because both of us like

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 7>a woman like Jasmine, for most men, is super intimidating.

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.959
<v Speaker 5>You know, she runs her own business. I'm talking about

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 5>she like, not hit my bad. She runs her own business.

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 7>She's a mom like on some supermom ship, very dedicated

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 7>to her family, runs her own practice, so not just

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 7>one business, but like three, you know, so automatically for

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 7>most men, it's like they want to step in and

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 7>be like, I want to take care of your own situation. Yeah,

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 7>tell you what what you're gonna do, even though you

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.359
<v Speaker 7>know I might not the dude might not even make

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 7>as much money as you.

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 5>Whatever, trying to stop you from making yours.

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 7>Or you know, so like I feel like we run

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 7>into that with certain men who when they approach her,

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:48.399
<v Speaker 7>their approach is just while off. So that that's one thing,

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 7>and then on my side of things, a lot of

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 7>the women who approach me are trying to do the

0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 7>same dumb ship women were trying to do before I

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 7>was even with somebody, which has changed me for who

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 7>I am like.

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be saved. I'm good at how one.

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 5>So it's like, you know, they'll try to step in

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 5>and be.

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 7>Like, sure you want to do this porn stuff, like yeah,

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.600
<v Speaker 7>it's working really well for me, you know what I mean,

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 7>And like as I transition into just being a business owner,

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 7>I'm still going to be doing what I do, you

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. So it's just kind of like

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 7>that is a turnoff. So we don't really run into people,

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 7>especially if they're more on the vanilla side of things,

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 7>who can even wrap their heads around what we do

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 7>and then the take the porn and the kink and

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 7>all that shit out of it. Just as business owners

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 7>and people who like for both of us, we are

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 7>turned on by people who like to work and go

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 7>get their ship and hustle. Like that's one of the

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 7>things that attracted us to each other was, Yo, we hustle,

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, so.

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, the pickens get slimmer, right.

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 6>If you're out there and you don't like to hustle,

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 6>that's okay.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 2>We can use it. Domestic help the children read.

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of children and family and all that, can you

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 3>explain to our listeners what sex positive parenting is sure.

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 6>So sex positive parenting is really just being able to

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 6>have open communication with your children about sex. It's protecting

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 6>your children from outside influences that educate them or miseducate

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 6>them about sex, supporting them through their sex and sexuality journey,

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 6>and also having good sex. Even though you have children

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 6>like you having good sex or you guys, the parents

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 6>are still continuing to be able to have good sex.

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if your children are having good sex, I

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 6>hope that they are doing it from a pleasure based standpoint.

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 2>And that is sex positive parents as well.

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 6>It's like teaching our kids, not shaming them for having sex,

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, making sure that they're prepared if that is

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 6>the route that they're going in that it is pleasure based,

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 6>not pressure based.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's so interesting to say that because I

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 3>was listening. I was listening to this TED talk and

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 3>they were talking about in I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in like the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, that's just like the women out there and just

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 3>in society out there.

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess they talk about sex.

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean versus America, because Americas are so like shameful

0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:33.439
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to sex, but they teach, they start

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 3>talking about sex at such a young age with their

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 3>with their with their girls, and they've got boys, but

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 3>specifically their girls. Teachers, doctors, parents, that it is pleasure based,

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 3>that they know what they want, they know that they

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 3>don't want that. And in America, like I mean, at

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 3>least I mean for I, adults don't know.

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it wasn't until maybe like in

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the last I.

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Think like maybe seven six seven years that I really

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 3>start having sex for me, you know, like of course

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I had play miserable sex, but I wanted to please

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 3>the man I was having sex with, and if I didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I failed, you know. And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>crazy that we don't teach our kids about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know when the right time is too,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there is a right time. There

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<v Speaker 2>is now it's right away.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you want to start at least introducing anatomically

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<v Speaker 7>correct terms to children from.

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<v Speaker 5>When they can listen talk, so not even just when

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<v Speaker 5>they can talk, Yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 7>For them to hear it, because it's important for them

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to if God forbids something bad happens

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<v Speaker 7>to them, to be able to explain and to let people.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 3>We did an episode about that because one of my

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 3>friends is a therapist and she was like, she told

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<v Speaker 3>me about so many different court cases with children where

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<v Speaker 3>they called their vagina a butterfly or something just like

1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:58.120
<v Speaker 3>a creature of some sort, and they couldn't convict that

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<v Speaker 3>person because they couldn't identify their body. And from then

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<v Speaker 3>on I was like, well, I was telling my daughter like,

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<v Speaker 3>that is your vagina, that is your breast, like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, peope, no, chee che, I don't even touch it lately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that too, like just asking questions casually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like do an't eOne touch your vagina today? Oh no, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go eat, like making it normal and not like

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<v Speaker 3>did someone touch you?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you tell me if they did? Like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Has been like forever you're scorn, like, oh this is bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's probably half my masturbation issues, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it's naughty and I'm like, I'm sorry your

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<v Speaker 4>body yeah yeah, and then you like, wait, you're thirty

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<v Speaker 4>to explore yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're confused.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, unfortunately America was started by.

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<v Speaker 7>People who were too proud for England, so you kind

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<v Speaker 7>of you kind of look at like the people and

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<v Speaker 7>the way this country was was built and the different

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<v Speaker 7>social warriors that have pushed this country along for all

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<v Speaker 7>of these years. Where it's so interesting, like I literally

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<v Speaker 7>when jazz is breastfeeding or something like, I want somebody

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<v Speaker 7>to come complain about.

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<v Speaker 5>This shit because I want.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's like, we live in a society where sex

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<v Speaker 7>will sell everything, but a woman is shamed for breast feeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like products that don't even have nothing to

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<v Speaker 5>do with sex.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it'll be someone that's half naked, but then

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<v Speaker 7>at the same time they shame you for your body

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<v Speaker 7>or for sex, right, you know. So it's like this

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<v Speaker 7>crazy twisted idea that you know, kids are sold sex

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<v Speaker 7>but then told that you know, if they touch themselves

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<v Speaker 7>or being you know, if they just want to be naked,

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<v Speaker 7>you know that there's something that's horrible about it and

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<v Speaker 7>that they should feel bad for who they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So you having because you have two kids, and how

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<v Speaker 3>old are they seventeen and fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>So you did you start teaching teaching sex positive parenting

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning or is it something that happened much later?

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<v Speaker 3>And then also, how do they deal with or how

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<v Speaker 3>do they do they embrace or do they embrace your lifestyle?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a hard transition even or how do you

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<v Speaker 2>avoid it? Because there's like social media and so no,

1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:09.600
<v Speaker 2>we don't avoid it. We so we co parent the girls.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been co parenting in them since they were twelve

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<v Speaker 6>and eight and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I started off very similar to the way that I

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<v Speaker 6>was raised, which was you know, no communication, very like

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<v Speaker 6>strict and you know, trying to avoid them ever having

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<v Speaker 6>to like confront sex, which is ridiculous, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they just like you said, like masturbation.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my gosh, like my daughter is masturbating.

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<v Speaker 6>But I you know, I guess maybe as a therapist

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<v Speaker 6>and as a child that that masturbated as well, was

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<v Speaker 6>able to say, like, this is not sex, Like she's

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<v Speaker 6>not in there having sex. She's self soothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>And a lot of adults can use self soothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>instead of always reaching out for other people to help

1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:02.200
<v Speaker 6>them or or not sothing. So it just became more

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<v Speaker 6>of an issue like if you're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 6>just wash your hands, like that's my biggest thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it seems, yeah, you know, like, Okay, let's put some

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<v Speaker 6>boundaries around what you're doing. Don't do it in public,

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<v Speaker 6>and things like that. So that was like my first like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my gosh, she's found her parts.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was calling them silly names too in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 6>and then kind of moving forward, which kind of propelled

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<v Speaker 6>me to be like, all right, you have to figure

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<v Speaker 6>out how you're going to communicate with these girls about

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<v Speaker 6>sex in a way that's not going to shame them,

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<v Speaker 6>because I was working through my own shame around sex,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, you know, this is what everything every

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<v Speaker 6>challenge that you have as a woman and as a mother,

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<v Speaker 6>even as a parent in general, when you're struggling, all

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<v Speaker 6>you can think of is I don't want my kids

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<v Speaker 6>to struggle with this. So thankfully for them, I was

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<v Speaker 6>going through that exploration at the same time that they

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<v Speaker 6>were discovering themselves. My daughter I found on the tablet

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<v Speaker 6>she'd been watching porn and she was ten, So that

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<v Speaker 6>was something that was very different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know for us, we probably like.

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<v Speaker 6>Stumbled upon porn, and you know, I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 6>at ten years old, and she would be like looking

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<v Speaker 6>for porn or maybe stumbled upon it and then went down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I thought like at that age, maybe she'd be like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, like this is discussing my computers broke

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<v Speaker 6>or something.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I saw porn, I was about that age,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was totally intrigued and wanted to watch more.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, so what was that? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>So I had to have a conversation with her about that,

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<v Speaker 6>and of course, you know, initially I was like I

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<v Speaker 6>was heartbroken, like what did she see?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I do? Yeah? How did how did I

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<v Speaker 2>let this happen?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>And then it turned to a conversation about like porn

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<v Speaker 6>is for people that are eighteen and up. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>not like don't ever watch it's discussing it's bad. It's

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<v Speaker 6>when you're supposed to you can watch it. It just like

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<v Speaker 6>everything else. If you saw your kids looking at a

1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:02.960
<v Speaker 6>bottle of beer, you'd have to explain that, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So I started to become more positive as you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as I started to learn more about myself as for

1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:14.520
<v Speaker 6>them knowing what we do that Like, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>I was starting a business with pole dancing and fantasy

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<v Speaker 6>flag parties and things like that when the girls were young.

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<v Speaker 6>So they've been on this journey with me. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, oh, you're doing a party, Well, what do

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<v Speaker 6>you guys do at that party? So I told them

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<v Speaker 6>enough that was appropriate for their age. We had a

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<v Speaker 6>pole in the dining room. You know, I'm learning new

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<v Speaker 6>tricks to teach the ladies at my parties. They knew

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't stripping at the time and people weren't coming

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<v Speaker 6>to the house getting lap.

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<v Speaker 2>Dances, so you know, it is what it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to shame myself for enjoying pole dancing.

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<v Speaker 6>And my daughter, who is a gymnast, would say, like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>if you like tucked your hips.

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<v Speaker 2>Under and tighten your core, you'd be able to hold

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<v Speaker 2>that longer. Like shit, okay, you know, so.

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<v Speaker 6>Like little you know, things like that. They've been along

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<v Speaker 6>the journey. As far as I'm knowing what we do.

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<v Speaker 6>They know I don't want them to stumble across it.

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<v Speaker 6>They embrace it, like you know, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 6>to explain it. They're they're fine with it. They love

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<v Speaker 6>that we make money, that's number one. They love that

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<v Speaker 6>we're happy. You know, nothing about their foundation is threatened by.

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<v Speaker 2>What we do.

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<v Speaker 5>Social media is black.

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<v Speaker 4>Both kids yeah, happening if their friends ever like, have

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<v Speaker 4>they come to you? Like my friend said like like,

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<v Speaker 4>how how's that obstacle?

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<v Speaker 6>So it's happened in the beginning, well, once it's happened,

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<v Speaker 6>and my daughter was like, oh, yeah, they found your

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<v Speaker 6>Instagram page and I was like, okay, good, so y'all

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<v Speaker 6>on Instagram and I spoke to the children that were

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<v Speaker 6>following me and maybe their parents as well. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think when the kids saw that, like oh shit, like

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<v Speaker 6>we can't like her mom's bed, like she's not gonna

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<v Speaker 6>let you shame her, and you know, I just said like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're looking at my sights, then you're doing something inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, the kids will tell like so now

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<v Speaker 6>they're like people will come like, hey, like I saw

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<v Speaker 6>something about your mom, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter's kind of like, what what's happening?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, and then they feel a little uncomfortable like

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<v Speaker 6>oh do I tell her? And my daughter will say

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<v Speaker 6>things like well, you know that's an adult site, so

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<v Speaker 6>you're not supposed to be on there, right, So educating

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<v Speaker 6>them how to have comebacks if you know, they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Fine in that way, Like the weirdest one.

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<v Speaker 7>One time, my niece and I taken her out to

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<v Speaker 7>go shopping or.

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<v Speaker 5>Something for school. She's like a whole bunch of my

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<v Speaker 5>friends followed.

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<v Speaker 7>But at the time she was in college, but it

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<v Speaker 7>was still She's still a baby to me.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, what do you mean they followed?

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<v Speaker 7>They need to not be following me, And she was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm nineteen, they're in college.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, well, tell them to stop following.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell a ninety year old not to do something

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<v Speaker 2>they don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think it's interesting just because most most

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<v Speaker 7>of our family, we're open and honest with them because

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<v Speaker 7>we wantn't want them to be like blindsided by somebody.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think it's very important to let them know,

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<v Speaker 7>like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is what's going on, this is what's happening that way there.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you have like a sit down with your

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<v Speaker 3>family or was it just more of like gradual, gradual

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<v Speaker 3>and gradual and.

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<v Speaker 6>Then with the girls, like I had decided at a

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<v Speaker 6>certain age kind of like all these things kind of happened,

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<v Speaker 6>like right around turning thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>That I want to be who I am.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That I'm their mother. I will provide for them, I love.

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<v Speaker 6>Them, I'll do everything that I am supposed to do

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<v Speaker 6>and more.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to be who.

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<v Speaker 6>I am, and even if they don't like who I am, like,

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<v Speaker 6>that's okay because when they become older, they'll remember, like,

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<v Speaker 6>they'll respective respect it, and they'll be who they want

1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:04.920
<v Speaker 6>to be as women, you know, and that's fine with me.

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<v Speaker 6>I may not like that either, but as long as like,

1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:09.719
<v Speaker 6>you're okay with it, and you know, we talk about

1:10:09.800 --> 1:10:13.200
<v Speaker 6>natural consequences with everything, like being imporn means that there

1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:14.680
<v Speaker 6>are some natural consequences.

1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:16.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe you'll lose.

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<v Speaker 6>Some respect from some people that you probably don't even

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<v Speaker 6>care about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Being in the adult industry has its perks and it

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<v Speaker 6>also has its drawbacks. There's certain things I have to

1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.160
<v Speaker 6>tell my daughters, like block your page. I need to

1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:32.000
<v Speaker 6>see everybody that is following you. We can't post where

1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:34.839
<v Speaker 6>we are in the moment that we're at that place.

1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.160
<v Speaker 6>So it has it's it's it's drawbacks. But at the

1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:41.920
<v Speaker 6>end of the day, they're seeing two people that love

1:10:42.120 --> 1:10:44.840
<v Speaker 6>ourselves and then we love each other. We have you know,

1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:47.719
<v Speaker 6>we're able to even show them a healthy relationship, which

1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:50.040
<v Speaker 6>I know people who are not in the porn industry

1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:50.960
<v Speaker 6>who can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Offer that to their children. I think we only have

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<v Speaker 2>a few more questions.

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<v Speaker 13>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get you guys out of here because

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<v Speaker 3>I know you get a baby, but I just have

1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:03.880
<v Speaker 3>a I wanted to ask you as far as the

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<v Speaker 3>femdom and all that and everything in that world or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so like stupid wanting to talk about this because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm un educated.

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<v Speaker 2>But are you do you? Or do you consider yourself

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<v Speaker 2>a dom? Or are you? I know you do, so,

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<v Speaker 2>then how does that work if you both are? Or

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<v Speaker 2>would you ever? Are you ever submissive?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been? Never?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I've put myself in situations where I guess

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<v Speaker 7>you can consider it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. It's hard to like, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 5>submissive person.

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<v Speaker 7>I've never been a submissive person, always kept both middle

1:11:40.680 --> 1:11:41.759
<v Speaker 7>fingers up to authority.

1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:44.559
<v Speaker 2>But you have to be a submissive person in your

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<v Speaker 2>and like you have to be.

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<v Speaker 7>There are situations and circumstances, like for example, with flogging.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I've been flogged before, but I didn't consider myself

1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:55.240
<v Speaker 7>to be a submissive when I was getting flogged. I

1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:57.679
<v Speaker 7>wanted to know how it felt so I can apply

1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:00.960
<v Speaker 7>it on other people and know what I'm doing. If

1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:11.800
<v Speaker 7>I do something nice for Jasmine. I think people's perceptions

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<v Speaker 7>of what domination and submissive are are are almost like

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<v Speaker 7>as rigid as every other box that people try to

1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:23.280
<v Speaker 7>put themselves into. So I'm not like if we're at

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<v Speaker 7>home and she's like, can you do this for me?

1:12:25.439 --> 1:12:28.519
<v Speaker 5>Like, no, I'm a dominator that ship, you know what

1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:30.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Like, it's not it's not like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I Also, I don't consider Jasmine to be a submissive

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<v Speaker 7>at all either. We're equals, so we don't dominate each other.

1:12:40.520 --> 1:12:45.559
<v Speaker 7>There are certain like I guess sometimes you will say

1:12:45.600 --> 1:12:47.120
<v Speaker 7>you're a switch, but I don't really look at you

1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:48.600
<v Speaker 7>as a switch though, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, Well, yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>I do like maybe situationally or if I say, like,

1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:57.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, like you make all the decisions, but it's

1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:59.680
<v Speaker 6>it's still very like I'm making a.

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<v Speaker 2>Decision right.

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<v Speaker 6>And well for professional purposes. Sometimes I do switch just

1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:10.000
<v Speaker 6>because I want to try something new. Like one of

1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:12.400
<v Speaker 6>the cool things for me about being in the industry

1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:14.880
<v Speaker 6>is that you like, where else are you going to

1:13:14.960 --> 1:13:16.840
<v Speaker 6>be able to like put a strap on on your

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<v Speaker 6>foot and fuck somebody.

1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:24.960
<v Speaker 13>In the ass, like on your foot, yeah, like this, yeah,

1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:32.599
<v Speaker 13>like you know, or wrestling, and I, you know, those.

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<v Speaker 2>Experiences just don't like pop up on my Facebook feed.

1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:40.880
<v Speaker 6>So I some there are some being tied up and

1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:44.840
<v Speaker 6>tickled and forced orgasm and things like that. I've been

1:13:44.880 --> 1:13:47.519
<v Speaker 6>able to do, like fun shoots like that that require

1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:50.960
<v Speaker 6>me to take on a submissive space even though I

1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:56.519
<v Speaker 6>like cursing the whole time. So that's why I usually

1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:59.120
<v Speaker 6>say I'm more dominant, but I'll say that I'm a

1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.479
<v Speaker 6>switch because I him be in those situations and have

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<v Speaker 6>fun or explore them.

1:14:03.240 --> 1:14:06.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we don't. We don't dumb each other like we.

1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Just do you guys have any specific fetishes that you

1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:11.240
<v Speaker 3>guys are into individually?

1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Like what are yours and what are yours? Is there

1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:14.280
<v Speaker 2>anything you're not into?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess there's some if you're not if

1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:18.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not like submissive, there's probably certain things you're probably

1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:19.360
<v Speaker 3>not down for.

1:14:19.520 --> 1:14:22.240
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, but even though I may like them to

1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:26.680
<v Speaker 6>do other people right now, I think so it was

1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:30.680
<v Speaker 6>edging for a while. Now it's definitely spitting, yeah, like

1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:32.880
<v Speaker 6>and someone's not everywhere all over them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that, And then edging can you explain

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<v Speaker 2>to what I know?

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<v Speaker 6>So edging is when you are withholding someone's orgasm, you know,

1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:45.800
<v Speaker 6>so you're bringing them like just to a point and

1:14:45.840 --> 1:14:47.599
<v Speaker 6>not allowing them to have an orgasm.

1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:49.880
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the forms of edging.

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<v Speaker 7>For me, I think my longest lasting fetish. And it

1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:57.559
<v Speaker 7>has not changed, like it's just like ingrained to who

1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:59.600
<v Speaker 7>I am. It's just I'm an exhibitionist. I love to

1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:04.400
<v Speaker 7>be wi it never fails, like someone's there watching, I'm

1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:05.719
<v Speaker 7>extra turned off.

1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:07.840
<v Speaker 5>As of late.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I would say different forms of impact play

1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:13.559
<v Speaker 7>have been more and more what I'm into, Like I

1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.960
<v Speaker 7>got into flogging about three four years ago and now

1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:17.880
<v Speaker 7>I'm into whips.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us for the listeners? What's flogging?

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<v Speaker 5>Flogging is everything? Flogging Flogging is an impact play that's

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<v Speaker 5>done with.

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<v Speaker 7>It can be material of any so it could be leather,

1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:39.719
<v Speaker 7>it could be like elk, it could be plastic cord.

1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:44.280
<v Speaker 7>But it's usually like tassels like these right here. I

1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:47.080
<v Speaker 7>bring them with me sometimes because people ask these questions.

1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:51.240
<v Speaker 7>So it's these kind of tassels and you work them

1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:54.360
<v Speaker 7>about someone's body. So it can be light touches, it

1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:59.040
<v Speaker 7>can be sent touches, sensual touches.

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<v Speaker 3>This is kind of like this chain nice, So this

1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:12.320
<v Speaker 3>is what I see you whipping around and.

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<v Speaker 5>Dangerous.

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<v Speaker 7>So like the impact, Like if you like getting spanked,

1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:27.200
<v Speaker 7>you like getting spanked, so it's it's similar to that.

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<v Speaker 5>But each material is different.

1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:32.920
<v Speaker 7>Each way that you hit someone is different, so it

1:16:33.000 --> 1:16:35.240
<v Speaker 7>sends different sensations through the body.

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<v Speaker 5>I like doing it rhythmically.

1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.120
<v Speaker 7>I'm a musician, so like the rhythm part of it

1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:42.680
<v Speaker 7>is a big turn off for me. Watching what it

1:16:42.720 --> 1:16:46.639
<v Speaker 7>does to a person's body, like how it changes their

1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.599
<v Speaker 7>breathing or how it makes them move in different ways,

1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:52.240
<v Speaker 7>Like it's an extreme turno because it's just like another

1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:57.800
<v Speaker 7>way to please somebody, And for me, I think BDSM.

1:16:57.920 --> 1:17:02.000
<v Speaker 7>I love it because as for play, it just extends everything.

1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:05.400
<v Speaker 7>It makes everything longer, it makes everything psychological. So by

1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.680
<v Speaker 7>the time you even get to edging, or by the

1:17:07.760 --> 1:17:12.559
<v Speaker 7>time you get to actually penetration, penetration or climax, it's

1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:15.280
<v Speaker 7>been built up so long and so strong that it

1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:18.840
<v Speaker 7>just makes it that much more enjoyable and that much

1:17:18.880 --> 1:17:24.320
<v Speaker 7>more explosive. So like we're flogging, to me, you get

1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:28.360
<v Speaker 7>to explore somebody's body without even touching them, you know.

1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:34.960
<v Speaker 7>So now I've been learning how to use dragontails, which

1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:37.479
<v Speaker 7>are a different form of whip. It's kind of like

1:17:37.479 --> 1:17:40.520
<v Speaker 7>a folded over fabric kind of like if you imagine,

1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:42.840
<v Speaker 7>it gives you the same feel, but I think in

1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:45.040
<v Speaker 7>a more concentrated way than if someone snaps you with

1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:48.760
<v Speaker 7>a towel. And so like, I'm also learning how to

1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:52.320
<v Speaker 7>throw a bull whip now, and like different kinds of whips.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knew there's so many levels to this interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the other thing that I feel is.

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<v Speaker 7>Sexy and romantic about it is, especially when you're doing

1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:06.280
<v Speaker 7>it with your partner. It's like y'all are learning different

1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:09.599
<v Speaker 7>things together, and mostly because both of us, Like Jazz

1:18:09.680 --> 1:18:11.920
<v Speaker 7>is real nice with her hands, Like it's beautiful to

1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:15.320
<v Speaker 7>watch her and like the hands she can warm somebody

1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:17.439
<v Speaker 7>up for me to then go even harder with a

1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:21.200
<v Speaker 7>different kind of instrument, or she takes to riding crops,

1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:25.479
<v Speaker 7>and so it's like we're learning different things that we

1:18:25.600 --> 1:18:27.240
<v Speaker 7>then use together on people.

1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:30.519
<v Speaker 3>So for any of our listeners who like are interested

1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:34.160
<v Speaker 3>in just getting more and just experimenting in any realm

1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.800
<v Speaker 3>of this, what would be like, what's like the beginner's guy, Like,

1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:39.960
<v Speaker 3>what's like, how do you intro into.

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<v Speaker 5>A fantasy flight.

1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:45.800
<v Speaker 7>Because I tell everybody a fantasy flight party is the

1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:47.280
<v Speaker 7>same as when you go on vacation.

1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:49.000
<v Speaker 5>You know where you want to be, Like I want

1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:50.960
<v Speaker 5>to go to Turks and kkos. You don't fly your

1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:54.200
<v Speaker 5>own planet. That's what we do. You're like, I want

1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:55.439
<v Speaker 5>to learn how to flogg.

1:18:55.600 --> 1:18:59.280
<v Speaker 7>I want to experience being flogged, or I want me

1:18:59.320 --> 1:19:01.280
<v Speaker 7>and my friends to just have a party where we

1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:04.439
<v Speaker 7>find out what our kinks and our fetishes are. That's

1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:06.960
<v Speaker 7>where we come in. We wear those you know, with

1:19:07.120 --> 1:19:10.240
<v Speaker 7>the pilots. We get you there. You know, we set

1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:12.000
<v Speaker 7>it up, We make sure that it happens in a

1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.599
<v Speaker 7>way that's going to be safe and pleasurable, and judges

1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:18.599
<v Speaker 7>or if you don't want to have it be a group.

1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:22.520
<v Speaker 7>We do private fetish training one on one or for couples.

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<v Speaker 2>Email for these schedules.

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<v Speaker 6>You can do info at jet Sitting jazz dot com

1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:32.360
<v Speaker 6>or on any of our social media and will direct

1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:33.120
<v Speaker 6>you based on.

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<v Speaker 5>What is come go down on us and go down, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Down people going down in them. Okay, I have one

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<v Speaker 2>last question, one last question just because you just had

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<v Speaker 2>a baby, and I know when I had a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I know we have a lot of listeners that have

1:19:47.920 --> 1:19:50.559
<v Speaker 2>children or are pregnant or thinking about having kids.

1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:53.040
<v Speaker 3>For me, when I was pregnant, I don't know about you.

1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:56.320
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't horny at all. I didn't want to have sex,

1:19:56.640 --> 1:20:00.720
<v Speaker 3>and even after having my kid, I think I think

1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I was just I was definitely going through postpartum and

1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:06.760
<v Speaker 3>also I I wasn't comfortable with my body anymore, and

1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:09.920
<v Speaker 3>which definitely didn't make me feel comfortable having sex either.

1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:13.639
<v Speaker 2>My partner didn't understand what I was going through. How

1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:13.960
<v Speaker 2>did you?

1:20:14.240 --> 1:20:16.120
<v Speaker 3>How did you feel when you were pregnant as far

1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:19.680
<v Speaker 3>as sexually and then how now because you're the only

1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:23.080
<v Speaker 3>eight weeks postpartum, how are you transitioning back into sex?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you having sex.

1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Or do you have any recommendations for people that that

1:20:27.360 --> 1:20:29.200
<v Speaker 3>are because I feel like I wish I would have

1:20:29.240 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 3>had someone to explain what was going through, what was happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so, yeah, this is really fresh for me. So

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.720
<v Speaker 6>in the beginning, I was sick the first three trimesters,

1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:44.240
<v Speaker 6>so that was gross. No, the first I mean I

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<v Speaker 6>meant to say the first three months.

1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:52.400
<v Speaker 2>With all three children. The first trimester, it was horrible.

1:20:53.040 --> 1:20:57.040
<v Speaker 6>So we didn't have sex then because I would literally

1:20:57.080 --> 1:21:01.800
<v Speaker 6>like throw up. After we had I was I know,

1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:07.200
<v Speaker 6>I felt bad, but we found other ways to connect.

1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:07.360
<v Speaker 2>With one another.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's probably the most important part. Like even

1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:12.439
<v Speaker 6>when I didn't feel like turned on a horny, I

1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:17.439
<v Speaker 6>felt loved and I felt close, you know, just him

1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.040
<v Speaker 6>either taking care of me or like when I was

1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:22.800
<v Speaker 6>going through a lot of like hormonal shifts, he wouldn't

1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:25.960
<v Speaker 6>feed into it. He just kind of like let it pass,

1:21:26.240 --> 1:21:30.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, but still validating the craziness, but let it

1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:31.880
<v Speaker 6>like let it pass.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was important.

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<v Speaker 6>The second trimester is when we filmed our sacred sex film,

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<v Speaker 6>like just.

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<v Speaker 2>One I saw that congratulations.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was fun and it was fun to do

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<v Speaker 6>because we were trying to figure out like what positions

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<v Speaker 6>to get into and I think I was self conscious

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<v Speaker 6>of my body and like what can we do? And

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<v Speaker 6>then we would start and then I'd be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's no, no, that don't feel good anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wait, you on the baby, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>But it was fun and because it forced us to communicate,

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<v Speaker 6>he had to do different things, and you know, so

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<v Speaker 6>that in itself, it's like if you don't go in

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<v Speaker 6>with the expectation that you're going to be like smooth

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<v Speaker 6>like butter, and that you are going to stop a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of times, you might laugh at each other, then

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to go into having a good time. And

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<v Speaker 6>then towards the end, I kind of felt like I

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<v Speaker 6>felt big, and you know, it wasn't It wasn't quite

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<v Speaker 6>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I did watch a lot of peorn because you were

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<v Speaker 2>traveling a lot by the way, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And the interesting thing is that I watched things that

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't normally watch that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching a lot of gang Bang I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I normally like nothing's wrong with them,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not my genre.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was like, I don't know, I need to

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<v Speaker 6>go and test and see if it still works.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I was gonna, you know, I haven't that's your

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<v Speaker 2>normal genre lesbian? Really yeah, I hate.

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<v Speaker 5>That was like me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the first porn I ever watched, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just still love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Still doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to like it, but now I'm like this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fake. Don't run it for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it depends on who you watch.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't watch girl, I never lets me experienced, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, it's just well, well for me, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'll go back to the pregnancy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be important. It's just it's softer sensual. It's more sensual.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, women we connect much faster with each other,

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<v Speaker 6>just not even sentually, just you know, hey girl, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know we know how to be like instant best

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<v Speaker 6>friends in the moment, so that trans translates.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>There's also like a lot of white girl porn and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh yeah, and I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to the sound.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mute it, or I like playing music because

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<v Speaker 6>I audio will turn it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, okay, none of this. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>watching silent gangs.

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<v Speaker 5>And did they have clo.

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<v Speaker 2>You that? Oh god. So the third times was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more challenging.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a couple of times, like and then I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>the baby to come out, so you know, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>So that wasn't super sensual. It was very functional.

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<v Speaker 6>And then yes, we've had we had sex, like the

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<v Speaker 6>day that I turned eight weeks like eight weeks post

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<v Speaker 6>part of and.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually four days ago. It was good. It was really enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 6>I am conscious of my body, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>comfortable and it just doesn't feel like, I'm very I

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<v Speaker 6>am aware of why my body has changed, that it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to take some time for it to go back

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<v Speaker 6>into place, or maybe we'll never go back to how

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<v Speaker 6>it was. But I my new normal, what I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to be. It's going to take time to get there.

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<v Speaker 6>But it doesn't mean I'm comfortable. Like you know, coming here,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, Okay, this is vague enough, and can.

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<v Speaker 2>I breastfeed in it? And can I say thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>Can I say it for a long time? With these

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<v Speaker 6>buttons and all that kind of stuff. I just put

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<v Speaker 6>a postpartum project on my Instagram and website today and

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<v Speaker 6>it talks about all of those like the shift mentally physically,

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<v Speaker 6>and also doing a nude photo shoot six weeks out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was six weeks in DC.

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<v Speaker 6>Six weeks postpartum, no makeup, no filters, no touch ups

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<v Speaker 6>to the just this is what a thirty eight year

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<v Speaker 6>old woman's body looks like after having her third child

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<v Speaker 6>after fourteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's not so bad. I bet, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>because you look good. Thank you dude.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't mean yeah, I mean I think most

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<v Speaker 3>women I'm probably don't you mean she was like this

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<v Speaker 3>small when she was pregnant and then like what like

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<v Speaker 3>like bounced back like five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, when when I first saw my baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is going on? Even sex? I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this? I even thinking?

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<v Speaker 6>Like when I do get back down the side, like

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<v Speaker 6>my breast stag before, so like are they going to

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<v Speaker 6>be even more? You know, I had to stretch marks

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<v Speaker 6>and are they going to be even worse? So all

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<v Speaker 6>of those things. But I've never been turned down because

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<v Speaker 6>of my body, you know, And so I'm like I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then for you, I have like pregnancy sex.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that like for a man? Is that is

1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Is it true that the pussy is tighter? Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel the baby's head? Like honestly, I know

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<v Speaker 3>you don't, but you know or have you ever had

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<v Speaker 3>pregnancy sex and porn? Like prior to that, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>had it in porn, but I had in life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it wasn't his baby, Let's get that real clear.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you have been opposed if she wanted to have

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<v Speaker 4>somebody else while she was parkning with your baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's a big man thing, because you guy are

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<v Speaker 2>so open. But like for a man shot, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do any penetration. Okay, yeah, would you have had a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>That's our body for to make that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I was no, very yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think for me, even even in the first trimester,

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<v Speaker 7>she was like I'm sick and all this, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I was just like, my baby is sexy as hell,

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<v Speaker 7>like when people say that pregnant glow, Like I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>That in her the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just like I found her to be even more attractive.

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<v Speaker 7>And even if we weren't having sex, it was just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of like let me, let me, let me talk

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<v Speaker 7>to you know what I mean, let me touch it,

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<v Speaker 7>let me hold you, let me what do you want?

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<v Speaker 7>What can I get you? Like, I felt very much

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<v Speaker 7>connected and sex wise, like when like especially, I mean

1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:33.759
<v Speaker 7>I think about the scene because it was it wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>like at home. You know, when you're at home, it's

1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:37.400
<v Speaker 7>just kind of like, yo, let's get it in, let's

1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:39.720
<v Speaker 7>do it. You know, how are you comfortable? Where are

1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:42.439
<v Speaker 7>you comfortable? But in the scene, it's like, well, where

1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:44.240
<v Speaker 7>are you comfortable? How are you comfortable? And how are

1:28:44.240 --> 1:28:46.559
<v Speaker 7>we going to make it look good a way that

1:28:46.960 --> 1:28:50.360
<v Speaker 7>you're comfortable with it looking because it was like Jazz

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<v Speaker 7>was like, I want to show women positions that they

1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:57.320
<v Speaker 7>can do when they're pregnant, So when we take the pictures,

1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.040
<v Speaker 7>we need to do it from this angle so they

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<v Speaker 7>could see where we're do it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it was that aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Really made me, made me appreciate just what a woman

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<v Speaker 7>has to go through body wise in a situation we've

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<v Speaker 7>had sex so many times or shot so many times,

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<v Speaker 7>and any other time she was like I don't give

1:29:15.240 --> 1:29:17.000
<v Speaker 7>with a camera, like let's.

1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:17.479
<v Speaker 5>Get it, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So it was like, I don't know that is the

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<v Speaker 7>pussy did for I mean, I felt that she was

1:29:23.520 --> 1:29:27.599
<v Speaker 7>wetter all the time, just natural body stuff is going on.

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<v Speaker 7>So that aspect of it, but I don't know how

1:29:32.000 --> 1:29:34.920
<v Speaker 7>to explain it. It was just like a different kind of connection,

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<v Speaker 7>a deeper kind of connection.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahful, Yeah it is. No. You guys are amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for coming on sharing your life,

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<v Speaker 2>I we have we had like a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 2>coming in. We're like, oh my god, we have so

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<v Speaker 2>many questions, and I feel like I feel lightened. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel super enlightened. Yeah, and I feel like my perspective

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<v Speaker 3>Like im not not to say that I was judgmental,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't understand fully. I was intrigued by it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't fully understand how you balance your lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>And it seems so.

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