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Speaker 1: Think like the inside of your baby pink behind our

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Speaker 2: Is the truth you can't I Hey, guys, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: This is Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and.

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Speaker 3: I'm Nila, and we are really excited because we have

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Speaker 3: two special guests that we were lucky enough to get

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Speaker 3: on Good.

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Speaker 2: Mom's Bad Choices and I've been.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to this for months. Yes, we've been plotting

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Speaker 4: on you, so please welcome Jet Setting Jasmine and King Noir.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having us, of course.

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Speaker 2: The bomb ass parents, King and Queen of Kink. What's

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Speaker 2: your title? Tell us your your handles, like your instant

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Speaker 2: handles and stuff. I'm at jes sitting Jasmine pretty much

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Speaker 2: everywhere at King the Walk.

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Speaker 4: So we're really excited to have them because not only

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Speaker 4: are they in the kink industry, the adult film industry,

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Speaker 4: but they're also parents.

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Speaker 2: They have their little baby. What's your baby's name?

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Speaker 6: Majesty here, I'm like, wait, I don't know the baby's name.

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Speaker 2: Eight week old Majesty is here. In the next room,

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Speaker 2: and you know we let the kinky parents.

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Speaker 7: Sure do.

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Speaker 3: And I it's so funny because Jamila was actually the

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Speaker 3: one that put me onto you guys. And this was

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Speaker 3: like before I connected with him, Like, she was.

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Speaker 2: Like, have you seen them? Have you seen them? Look

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Speaker 2: how amazing like their lifestyle is. They are so open.

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Speaker 3: And I was in Florida and I happened to connect

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Speaker 2: I was like, give me, look, this is the same person.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's consense. I was like no, And

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Speaker 2: I was like, how am I in Tampa? Does he

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Speaker 2: live here? I'm like, what the fuck are you?

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 2: I like you am.

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Speaker 3: I Also my followers know that I'm like the Queen

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Speaker 3: of Tinder, is the queen of But I've retired recently.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of back on. But I have some bad experience.

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Speaker 2: You have the best. I have the best experiences. I

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Speaker 2: mean we have them here.

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Speaker 7: No, it's true, You're right, Tinder works very well for

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Speaker 7: me for people who are looking for sex.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I'm sure I had a lot of BDSM session.

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Speaker 2: Book of sessions, you know.

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Speaker 3: But when I when I when he when we were talking,

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Speaker 2: And he's like, this is how I get a lot

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Speaker 2: of my work. What is BDSM.

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Speaker 7: Bondage, dominant sadism, masochism, submissiveness.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're going to ask there's a lot of ways

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Speaker 5: that it's broken down.

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Speaker 4: We're going to ask you that a lot because even

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Speaker 4: though we're both freaky parents, our terminology is not that on.

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Speaker 2: So educate us please. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited to be educated because we were looking

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Speaker 2: Was like, wait, what the fuck does that mean? I

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Speaker 2: So that's how I connected with King and I was like,

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Speaker 2: please can you be on my podcast? And here we are.

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Speaker 4: I was like in June, yeah, and she like he

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Speaker 2: So how did you guys meet just like this on

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 2: So you guys are both just happening to be on

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Speaker 6: So I was hosting a show called The Emotion Picture

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Speaker 4: Like that, oh cool, Yeah, prior to this relationship, had

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Speaker 2: Or were you in that industry? No? Neither, okay.

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Speaker 6: And then when the show aired, we had to find

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Speaker 2: I'm right, I'll do the follow up on this one.

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Speaker 2: I'll do this further investigation. Thank you. Are you guys

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Speaker 2: both from Florida, No, neither one of us. I'm from

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Speaker 6: Long time, and he's a newcomer down there, so you

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I was. I was in Jersey. It's funny.

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Speaker 7: I knew one of the other hosts for over like

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Speaker 7: It's called Central in the War and it's based basically

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Speaker 7: So I created Central in the War as a company

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Speaker 7: And it was basically based on when women want to

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Speaker 2: What better way to have a woman's perspective than.

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Speaker 6: To thin and the same thing that's what was happening

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Speaker 6: And so it just worked out that, you know, we

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Speaker 6: So yeah, they believed him because he had seen this,

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Speaker 3: It's almost like a double standard, like women lost when

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Speaker 2: So that's what we created the party and baby I think.

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Speaker 5: Why do we never see black people kiss on film?

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Speaker 7: Why is it there's no real kinky stuff with black

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Speaker 4: There are like it lacks level a lot of blackborns,

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Speaker 3: Like I see a lot of like beautifully shot porn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never.

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Speaker 4: So would you guys say there's like discrimination within the

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Speaker 5: Or absolutely on many different levels.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys experienced that personally, like, and that's why

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Speaker 2: we have royal Finnish films. So that's just exclusive your

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Speaker 2: ship for you guys.

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Speaker 7: And we both we both shoot with other companies if

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Speaker 7: they contract us to work for them. But it's like

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Speaker 7: we get to turn down all that discrimination or the

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Speaker 7: racist or the stereotypical shoots because like, we can make

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Speaker 7: what we want. So if you're not making something that's

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Speaker 7: coincides with who we are, then we could stay away

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Speaker 4: That's interesting because I live in the valley, so I

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Speaker 4: educational as you too, educate educated, yeah, or that too.

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Speaker 4: I was told one time that a lot of times

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Speaker 4: So it could be like actually like nappy nappy, black

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Speaker 6: So what we're we've been touring the adult industry for

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Speaker 6: Black people that are imporn don't want to shoot SA

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Speaker 2: Right, No, it's true. It's like this doesn't work without me.

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Speaker 2: Literally, I see it looking it freaked if that shit

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Speaker 3: But no, it's my my my my stepworld is like

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Speaker 3: I just found it yesterday and I was like, let's

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Speaker 4: Like look, Tamilla, she's like, I'm going to turn it on.

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Speaker 5: Sorry anyway, going back to what you said, I mean porn.

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Speaker 7: We're literally sexual sexual athletes the same way football players

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Speaker 7: But I mean, we within the industry, you run into

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Speaker 5: So I was like, you know.

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Speaker 3: That they're out of touch, out of touch people, they're

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Speaker 7: Not And they tried to play it off like oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: And I personally like doctor in the war that has a.

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Speaker 2: Real nice I thought it would be very nice, you know.

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Speaker 5: So actually what wound up happening.

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Speaker 7: We wound up one of the times when we were

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And that's the funny thing.

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Speaker 7: It's not like, you know, we were going to be

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Speaker 7: So it's just like so crazy that somebody can't see

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Speaker 2: In their fantasy.

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Speaker 7: So it's like we we still just as a society,

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Speaker 5: You know. It's like in every single aspect.

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, when you're black, you are the first black person

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Speaker 7: it might seem or menial or whatever. The however, people

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Speaker 5: And as the first one is a whole lot of

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Speaker 7: But owning your own and putting out positive images of

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Speaker 7: it's like yo, to be able to bust your nut

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Speaker 5: SS Like for real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, I appreciate you guys, because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Even considered that.

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy that you're enjoying the work in that

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Speaker 2: Even I'm just I don't even I'm not even a

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Speaker 2: think about it, like going thro those categories pages, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't see this ship. But yeah, that's a big job.

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Speaker 3: I do watch porn, and it's so crazy because you know,

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Speaker 2: My brain like doesn't go there with porn. Like it's

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Speaker 3: I don't think of I don't get outraged, but really

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Wow, there isn't a lot of like black

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Speaker 8: Because it's in our regular media too, right, right, So

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Speaker 8: how yeah, it's almost like you accept that, but I

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Speaker 3: A there's in a shift, and there is been recently,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I just mean like

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Speaker 2: There's black men that are in powerful positions more.

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Speaker 2: Like I just kind of like, oh, well, torn, I'm

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Speaker 7: It, I think because porn is still one of those

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Speaker 5: And we talk about this in our in our in.

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Speaker 7: Our series, like you can literally show up as a

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Speaker 5: You can literally say that on set and they be

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Speaker 7: But if you work for I don't know, Viacom and

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah right now.

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Speaker 5: True.

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Speaker 2: But is there nobody there's no like policing and porn

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Speaker 7: But it's when you think about sex and you think

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Speaker 7: So it's like sexually we're a vessel or black man

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Speaker 7: like as if like that somehow is something different than

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Speaker 5: Women, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: And usually the black women are extremely disrespected. There's this

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Speaker 7: So what's wrong with these black women?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, trying to check and turn into other

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Speaker 2: God damn.

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Speaker 7: So it's like if you if you have an industry

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Speaker 7: like even if people are like, oh, well it's a joke,

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

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Speaker 6: So so let's talk about just what you said, So

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: When you go to a set, sometimes you don't know

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Speaker 6: there's a contract you know that you have to sign.

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Speaker 6: But even I say, you get all the way to

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Speaker 6: not doing that.

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Speaker 9: You have to pay a fee for killing that shoot

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Speaker 9: and then at the end they're like, and we won't

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Speaker 6: No, and you're gonna pay us for wasting. So not

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Speaker 6: everybody is in the industry because you know they one

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Speaker 6: We want to bring a different look, a different feel.

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Speaker 6: You know, our intentions aren't solely financial, but if like

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Speaker 6: under like I'm just gonna maybe hope that nobody sees it.

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Speaker 6: So so it's really difficult. You know, people say like, well,

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Speaker 2: Scenes that degrade us or what have you.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard choice to me because you feel like

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Speaker 3: sure they make you feel like, well, you're not going

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Speaker 7: That stories about like bull jangle, so performers in the

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Speaker 7: Vaude field circuit where you were black and you still

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00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 7: had to wear black face if you wanted to perform

444
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 7: and sing because you love to sing, right, you know,

445
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 7: So it's unfortunate. It's like I meant, you know, there's

446
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 7: so many rappers that if you actually spoke to them,

447
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 7: be like, wow, are you smart as hell?

448
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 5: I graduated college and you talk like that on the record.

449
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 7: Every other word is nigga is nigga at which you

450
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 7: have an extensive vocabulary, but you know that's what white

451
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 7: folks want to hear, and that's what sells.

452
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: So that's what you do.

453
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 2: That's going to cut you a check for Yeah, that's unfortunate.

454
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 7: That's that's the and that's why I say porn is

455
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 7: just a microcosm. So it's like things that we have

456
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 7: to confront on every single field of play or you know,

457
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 7: we don't get any progress anywhere.

458
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 10: So be good consumers if porn, purchase it, if you

459
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 10: watch it, and you know, if there's a company that

460
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 10: you really like, just ask them, email them and ask

461
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 10: them to see black people doing other things.

462
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: Or you know, like I really love the quality of

463
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: your shoes too.

464
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 6: It would be great if you and you know, wherever

465
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 6: your fantasies can take it.

466
00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: About that, I want to do that here. Okay, So

467
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: I have another question.

468
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: So obviously you guys kind of met in somewhat in

469
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: this industry already, Like, how does that affect your relationship?

470
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: Are you guys like to have an open relationship? Are

471
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: there insecurities because of it? Because of the nature of

472
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: your work? And how does that? Do you have rules

473
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: around your because like I know, I've seen like stuff

474
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: with you and her and you are and other women.

475
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 4: Do you uh like have played with other men? Yeah?

476
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: Do you guys have agreements surrounding that or how does

477
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: that work?

478
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 6: So we we met in the industry, so that that's one.

479
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, we're not going to in some

480
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 6: form of industry, and we've I've developed like my role

481
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 6: in the industry through our relationship, so that's not an issue.

482
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 6: Our work stuff, And we also came into our relationship

483
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 6: me exploring different styles of relationships, and King was already

484
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 6: established as polyamorous, so no surprises there.

485
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: And this is your first polyamous relationship. It is too,

486
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: you know, it's really interesting.

487
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 6: I think I've been kind of in living kind of

488
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 6: alternative lifestyles within monogamous relationships for a long time, but

489
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 6: never knowing like what was happening or what I was missing,

490
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: or or even.

491
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: Thinking like gosh, like I'm going to be with this

492
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: person forever. Okay, yeah, I.

493
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 6: Guess I could do it, you know, but thinking those

494
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 6: thoughts were really really natural for women to have or

495
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 6: just for people to have, like you know, oh, this

496
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 6: is just like maybe cold feet or something like that.

497
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 6: But then meeting him, meeting other people in lifestyle experiencing

498
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 6: different things that I was like, oh, you know, no,

499
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 6: it's like you shouldn't feel that way. If you feel

500
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 6: that way, then maybe you need to be either with

501
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 6: the wrong person or there's another style of life, another

502
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 6: lifestyle that may work for you.

503
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: So for me, I don't really consider myself polyamorous.

504
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 6: I don't have that yearning to love lots of people

505
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 6: in a very very strong, intimate way. I am more

506
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 6: like to play with other people and even more so

507
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 6: to work with other people. I get totally turned on

508
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 6: by the fact that we make money being with other people.

509
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: So that's kind of like my big thing. And can

510
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: you can explain yourself better.

511
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 7: Then I definitely get to turn on from the money

512
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 7: aspect as well. But I've been Polly ever since I

513
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 7: was probably as far back as I can remember. I

514
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 7: was never the jealous type, and I kind of always

515
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 7: go back to this relationship I had in high school

516
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 7: where my girlfriend she was exploring primarily with her bisexuality,

517
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 7: and she was kind of like, I don't know how

518
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 7: to tell you this or whatever. I was like, go,

519
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 7: I'll have one, do you. You know what I'm saying,

520
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 7: Like male or female. If you're intracted to somebody, like

521
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 7: I want you to be happy, so get to know them.

522
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 7: And then off of that, she was just kind of

523
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 7: like cool, So she started like bringing her friends to me,

524
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 7: like you should hang out with my man because he's

525
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 7: real cool like that, you know what I'm saying.

526
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: And I've always.

527
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 7: Enjoyed getting to know new people, and like just my

528
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 7: capacity for being able to talk to different people or

529
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 7: manage relationships has always been more vast than other people.

530
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: I know.

531
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 7: The swinging stuff I got started with real early, because

532
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 7: I mean I got involved in this industry when I

533
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 7: was legally able to do so, so since I was eighteen,

534
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 7: So I was kind of like, not that it was

535
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 7: just like all just poured on me at once, but

536
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 7: as different parts of it open to me, Like I

537
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 7: really my first real experien instance where they was through

538
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 7: like cuckolding, which.

539
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: At the time, you know, you're like eighteen and you're trying.

540
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: To I need to educate me, please care listeners.

541
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 7: Cut holding is when a man likes to watch his

542
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 7: wife with another man, got it. So there are different

543
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 7: levels and extremities to it, though, like sometimes it's because

544
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 7: that man feels inadequate.

545
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's because.

546
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 7: That man just really likes watching his wife be pleased,

547
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 7: so sometimes they'll join in.

548
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: Sometimes they watch from afar.

549
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 7: For me, it was primarily because like I've always just

550
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 7: been very dominant, so it was more like men who

551
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 7: wanted to be belittled or humiliated as I was with

552
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 7: their wife.

553
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 5: So you know, I got my.

554
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 7: First work in the industry doing that, and that kind

555
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 7: of led me into the BDSM stuff and the bondage

556
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 7: and dominance and submission and all of that, and at

557
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 7: the time, like trying to explain to my friends who

558
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 7: are just kind of like you know, doing the basic

559
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 7: eight trying to get a nut, they to do that too, though,

560
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 7: scared the.

561
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Ship out of them.

562
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 7: When told, they were like, what what do you mean?

563
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 7: That doesn't make any sense to me?

564
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: You know, is that my dog?

565
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: Again? I think you might need Okay, I'm yelling at

566
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: your dog. Your dog has his name is Chip? Guys, okay, appropriate.

567
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: Robot dog holding them past.

568
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Jackson video back. Remember she's like in Tokyo and she's like, no, no.

569
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: I didn't have Are you sure it's not Michael and

570
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: her the world?

571
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: Okay?

572
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sorry, I'm pulling that ship up on Okay, okay.

573
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: So that brings me to another question, because I had

574
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: this conversation with somebody briefly over the weekend. It was

575
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: somebody I didn't know, and she was kind of young

576
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: and like immediately when she made the comment.

577
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: I was like, eh, never mind.

578
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: So I don't know if I don't know if I

579
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: was like I had to go back because I drove

580
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: up north this weekend for like two days, and I

581
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: drove back. I had a client up there and my

582
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: best friend was up there. But I don't know if

583
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 4: I was mentioning like I'm interviewing this really cool coup

584
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah, and I was like a friend

585
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: with a friend, and she basically.

586
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Made a comment about, like to the effects of I.

587
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: Feel like certain people, oh, like people in the porn

588
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: industry or like sex industry, something's wrong with them. They

589
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: have something wrong with them. They you know, like they've

590
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: experienced some type of trauma.

591
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Trauma.

592
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm not in the porn industry directly, but it

593
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: immediately rubbed me the wrong way because I've always been

594
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: a very sexual woman, even as a girl, Like I remember, like,

595
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: I've always.

596
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Like, I've always been really open. I love people.

597
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: I love like, I just genuinely love people, doesn't matter

598
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: like man or woman. But if like souls connect, they connect,

599
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: and that could be on different levels intimately, like sexually,

600
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: like attraction has a lot of different you know, that's true.

601
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: So I was like, for a brief moment, I saw

602
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: myself like getting irritated and engaging in conversation with this

603
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: like twenty five year old girl.

604
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: But then I was like, I don't need to say that.

605
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm not ageist.

606
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: I don't know just say they like like say it

607
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: because she's twenty five, but you know what I mean.

608
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: But I was just like, not necessarily like, I understand

609
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: where you're coming from. I do know a lot of

610
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: like strippers who've had a dark past. They a lot

611
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: lesbians who maybe have been like had trauma. But that's

612
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: and you know, some people are comfortable in what they do,

613
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: and that's.

614
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Just how they choose to explore.

615
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: You know, like, just because you're not comfortable with it

616
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: and it makes you feel uncomfortable, doesn't necessarily make it

617
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, doesn't mean that there's something wrong

618
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: with everybody who has, you know, a sex positive perspective?

619
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: Do you, like, have you how.

620
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: Do you deal with people who have like limited and

621
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: closed minded perspectives or you know, label you you must

622
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: or like or has there been some stop or something

623
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: that you think, like directly because for a long time

624
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: I have close ass friends who would tell me like,

625
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I was my twenties. I probably

626
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: was fucking way too much for no reason, but like,

627
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, like maybe there might be something wrong, maybe

628
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: trying to fill avoid I.

629
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: Don't know, but at least I considered it. I was

630
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: rationalizing with myself.

631
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: But being like the like socially, you know, there's there's

632
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: there's judgment, and there's labels put on people who who

633
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: are sexually comfortable and.

634
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: Even with my closest friends even until now.

635
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: I sometimes I try to explain to them certain experiences

636
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: by because I'm like, this is a good story and

637
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you know what Jamilla's you know, maybe

638
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: you need to look for relax and sit and meditate.

639
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, this was my choice and I wanted to

640
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: do it because it was fun. So like how like because.

641
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: I've literally had to sit with myself and be like,

642
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: has anything happened to me?

643
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: Do I need to have like avvolation and if needs something,

644
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: I've like harbored deep down in my toes that I

645
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: can't remember, and that's why I'm this fucking But like,

646
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: what's your experience with that?

647
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 6: Like, so let's talk about this. So my background, I'm

648
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: a therapist, Okay, that's right. Yeah, I'm currently practicing on

649
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 6: licensed practice.

650
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: So you're practicing justine like with sexual like sexual not everything.

651
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: Okay m hm.

652
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 6: So from you know, general anxiety to serious trauma the

653
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 6: whole gamut. People have trauma traumatic experiences.

654
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: You know, in general, there are.

655
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 6: There's no high propensity in this industry, In that industry.

656
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's I mean.

657
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 6: That person's been here really drawing a picture with a really, really,

658
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 6: really broad stroke. There are definitely people in the industry

659
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 6: that are probably more open to talking about their trauma

660
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: because you will find that in this industry people that

661
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 6: have traumatic experiences have used porn or the sex work

662
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 6: to empower themselves to take back control of their sex, sexuality,

663
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: things that may have been violated as young.

664
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 2: Adults, what have you.

665
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: But don't I don't know what the rape statistic is

666
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 6: or the sexual assault statistically with some like, you know,

667
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 6: like one, let's just say, like one in ten women

668
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 6: have had some type of sexual inappropriate advance towards them.

669
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 6: Not one in ten women are in the porn industry.

670
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 6: So and again, don't take those numbers. I'm just kind

671
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: of drawing, you know, drawing a picture here that just

672
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 6: as many women in the porn industry are just as

673
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: many women at your local community college that have, you.

674
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Know, had some type of trauma.

675
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 6: So to suggest that it's just wrong, But you know,

676
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: when we do talk to and I do a lot

677
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: of therapy for people that are in the industry or

678
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: in the lifestyle because they feel comfortable like they don't

679
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 6: have to they could tell their good story, and I'm like, yeah,

680
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: like that's a good story, right, and you know, they'll

681
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 6: say that being in the industry has allowed them to

682
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 6: have sex on their own terms or you know, the

683
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 6: things that maybe they were shamed about, uh, you know,

684
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 6: not even having trauma. Just people like yourself that have

685
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 6: a high sexual appetite. There's no quota on how much

686
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 6: sex you're allowed to have. You know, if you do

687
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 6: pass this many, then y yeah, there's I mean, there

688
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 6: really is no there's no number. But because we're just

689
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 6: told to keep that number low whatever, and we don't

690
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: even know what low is, right, then you have this

691
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: shame that's put on you, you know, and so then

692
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 6: you're like, you know, it's something wrong with me, and

693
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: you're functioning.

694
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you're gainfully employed, your children.

695
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: Are well taken care of, it look beautiful, your skin looks,

696
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: but you're taking care of yourself.

697
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: So that that number is so arbitrary is just like

698
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: placed on you by society.

699
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: So I think that people have that idea that people

700
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: who have more sex or people.

701
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 2: That are don't care, you know, don't care.

702
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: What people think, something must be wrong with that. And

703
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 6: so I think that's where that idea comes from. But

704
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: without a doubt, you know, Just like if we were saying, like, well, accountants,

705
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 6: I hear accountants, you know have high levels of sexual

706
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 6: side like yeah, you know, and there's must be something

707
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: wrong with them to want to play with numbers all day.

708
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Nothing that happened to them when they were younger, you know.

709
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 6: But as far as my own experience, I've definitely have

710
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 6: and it's sadly I can say, like most women have

711
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: had some type of inappropriate sexual contact, advanced non consensual

712
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 6: sexual event that happened to me. That's not why I

713
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: went into the industry. I got into the industry after

714
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 6: what I was well into my thirties. I think those

715
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 6: traumatic events have shown themselves in other ways.

716
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: But I've been, you know, as a therapist. I've also

717
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: believed in going.

718
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 6: To therapy, So I've handled that stuff the way that

719
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: people should, kind of a tree additional model. And I

720
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 6: still find porn in the adult industry and adult entertainment

721
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: to be exciting and fun. And I don't feel like

722
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: I'm drawing on it based on those experiences or because

723
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: of those experiences.

724
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I agree with you one hundred percent. I

725
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 5: think if.

726
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 7: If you looked at it like everyone in our industry,

727
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 7: like porn does not have some sort of like lock

728
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 7: on people who've experienced sexual trauma. You know, if you

729
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 7: just look at people who've experienced sexual trauma and all

730
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 7: those people are in porn, there'd be no one to

731
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 7: watch it because we'd all be in it, right, you know.

732
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 7: It's it's unfortunate that people do at the same time,

733
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 7: you know, like what we come to now know is.

734
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: Like slut shaming.

735
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 7: Usually it's because they themselves feel that they can't get

736
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 7: out of their box or they're ashamed of what they

737
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 7: do behind closed.

738
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: Doors, and they're like, damn, I wish I mean, I

739
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: really throw it down.

740
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 7: I wish I could do it on camera too, But

741
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 7: you know, I don't have that confidence or my family

742
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 7: or how I look at myself will change.

743
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: So, you know, I don't think that there's any more.

744
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 7: But I definitely agree with what Jasmine said that there

745
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 7: are so many people in our industry who are comfortable

746
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 7: in their own skin that they're willing to share their

747
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 7: story because they feel like their story can help others.

748
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: And I think it's the same with most artists period.

749
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 7: You know, like if you speak to people who are musicians,

750
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 7: they're willing to share a lot of traumatic stories with

751
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 7: you because they're in touch with that part of themselves

752
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 7: and also look at what they do as art as

753
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 7: a way to overcome their.

754
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: Trauma, celebrating even for us this podcast, the first thing

755
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: I asked for, like, bitchalla, honestly want to be you know,

756
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: because we are moms and that's a whole different thing

757
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: like your mom. You can't hate that way. You're not

758
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: supposed to have that much sex, you know, and there's

759
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: like all these like especially for women and moms, and

760
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: you know, so I've found that through like being honest

761
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 4: and business. Yeah, maybe somebody somewhere I'll be like, you know,

762
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: I don't feel that's bad about the ship ended last week.

763
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: But another question, because I heard you say.

764
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question, because I don't think we

765
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: got to get to the question that you actually asked

766
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: them before, which I'm interested in, is when we talked

767
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: about you got your guys's relationship, how do you deal

768
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: with do you I mean, I mean sure.

769
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, I'm not assuming. Let me just not frame

770
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: the question this way.

771
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: Do you guys experience any sort of insecurities and how

772
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: do you deal with them? Like what are the rules

773
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: of your openness? Do you like, if he came home

774
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: after having like sex with somebody else, do you guys

775
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: talk about it or is it just like, you know,

776
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: what happened and we're going to take a shower and

777
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: go to sleep, take a shower.

778
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 7: We're so different, and I think that we're both very

779
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 7: different in the opposite.

780
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: Way than people think.

781
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if.

782
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 7: If she goes out with somebody, I'm like, oh, give

783
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 7: me all the details, please, you know, I mean, it

784
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 7: turns me on, you know, like especially I think also

785
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 7: because like especially when we first started, because this was

786
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 7: something like a lifestyle, I have been living like I'm

787
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 7: like vicariously living through her first experiences all over again.

788
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: So I'm like, yo, what happened? Like, YO, tell me

789
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 5: all about.

790
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 7: It's like, I don't want to tell you, but you know,

791
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 7: I mean, we do have certain rules that that we set,

792
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 7: and those rules can change over time in one.

793
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: Way or another.

794
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: You know.

795
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: The main one that we have is being open and

796
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: honest with one another, even if it makes the other

797
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: one of us uncomfortable. I think one thing that I

798
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 7: always say is that jealousy is a natural human emotion.

799
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 7: Envy is dangerous right. And it's funny because there have

800
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 7: spend times when Jasmine has been with other people sexually,

801
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 7: and none of it has remotely made me as jealous

802
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 7: as when she had this friend and they went to

803
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 7: the gym together.

804
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: And I was rich.

805
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 11: I was like, but I want to go to the gym, though, Like,

806
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 11: but you don't go to the gym until nighttime, and

807
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 11: I like to work out in the morning.

808
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: Like if.

809
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 7: Hey girl, I'm terrible at five in the morning, I'm

810
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 7: still up from the last night, so I shouldn't be

811
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 7: at the gym.

812
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: But but that's true.

813
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 7: It's just like the things that can make us jealous

814
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 7: of somebody else, we always make it like it's this

815
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 7: sexual thing and this that and the other. Like I

816
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 7: love when she's pleased, whether it's through me, whether it's

817
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 7: through someone else, and it doesn't always have sexual sex

818
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 7: isn't the only things that thing that pleases us in life,

819
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 7: you know.

820
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: So I just love seeing her happy.

821
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: I love knowing that she's content with life and living

822
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 7: her best life like that. Legit makes me happy and

823
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: that's what I want for her, because that's what I

824
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 7: feel love is to me. Love isn't like you gotta

825
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 7: do everything in your life with me, or that shit

826
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 7: ain't worth nothing, you know what I mean.

827
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: Like that, to me, that's not love, that's control, you

828
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: know exactly.

829
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: So it's like when you when you do get these

830
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 7: natural feelings of jealousy, like we're all going to have them,

831
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 7: whether you have an open relationship or you're completely monogamous

832
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 7: or whatever different levels you have, but usually it's about

833
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 7: your own ship, and mine was like in that situation,

834
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 7: it was just like I really enjoy working out with her.

835
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: She's really she she pushes me, she tells me like, yo,

836
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 5: your foremost off and ship, you know what I mean.

837
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 12: Like she's good like my boys don't care about that,

838
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 12: you know what I'm say. So Like in that particular situation,

839
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 12: I was just like, Okay, well, you know, I'm not

840
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 12: waking up at five in the moment, you know what

841
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 12: I mean, Like, that's not gonna happen.

842
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 5: So maybe she'll help me in other ways.

843
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 7: And it's more about myself than something she's doing, because

844
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 7: it's not like she was sneaking off to the gym

845
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 7: with her friends, you know what I mean.

846
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: So no, but I mean, to me, this.

847
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: Is always a good example when I speak to people

848
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 7: who are like, yeah, I want to try an open

849
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 7: relationship or my first three soon, or this or that

850
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 7: or the other, like you're gonna have a moment where

851
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 7: you are like, I don't know, you know what I mean,

852
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 7: You're gonna have that moment, but it's like, how do

853
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 7: you process that moment? How do you work through that moment,

854
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 7: and how do you benefit from it in the sense

855
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 7: of like how do you use it to strengthen your

856
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 7: relationship instead of break up over a fucking gym membership?

857
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

858
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I get jealous, but it usually has

859
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: nothing to do with him and has nothing to do

860
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 6: with the other person. It is because of something I'm

861
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 6: not doing. So like maybe a couple of times if

862
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: like he like went out on a date and I

863
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: didn't have anything to do somewhere, Yeah that's I mean,

864
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, why.

865
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: Do I care so much?

866
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: Like I knew he was going I don't feel I

867
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 6: don't feel like my relationship is threatened, but it's because

868
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: I'm bored and like this is who I would hang

869
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 6: out and you know, so so it would be you know,

870
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 6: reasons like that.

871
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: So it's not it's definitely not an insecurity.

872
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 6: I don't think that we could be in our relationship

873
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: if we didn't have confidence in ourselves and each other

874
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 6: and in the relationship. But you know, there are some

875
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 6: people who don't really want the best for our relationship

876
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: or don't understand open relationships, and that kind of can

877
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 6: get that can get a little annoying and taxing. Sometimes

878
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 6: you know, we won't we'll see it for for the

879
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 6: other person. So you know, it'll be someone who's making

880
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 6: some really funky moves, and he'll be excited because like, oh,

881
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 6: you know, this person is you know, really good looking

882
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 6: and we have a great rapport and I'm like, she's

883
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: moving a little funny, you know. But then it's kind

884
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 6: of like, well, is it because it's someone else, Like, no,

885
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: I don't think it's that, And so sometimes we have

886
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 6: to let these things play out.

887
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: So like told you that this was being funny.

888
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 6: But you know what the nice thing is is that

889
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: he'll come and he'll say you were right, you know,

890
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: and I saw it for myself and the same thing

891
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 6: with me, Like, you know, he'll say, like, don't you

892
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 6: think it's a little interesting that this person you know

893
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 6: didn't say hello to me, like, why would you do that?

894
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 6: We are, Yeah, we're a unit. It's obvious, we've discussed this,

895
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 6: but they try to throw shade. So those type of things,

896
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 6: you know, people get really focused on, like what about us?

897
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes the external.

898
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 6: Factors that are a little bit more challenging than just

899
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: like he and I think about, you know, our relationship.

900
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 7: I think like at this point, I've always believe like

901
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 7: fool's fall, you know, like if you stand for something,

902
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 7: if you stand for love, you stand in that relationship,

903
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 7: like you'll be able to work through anything because you're

904
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 7: standing on a strong foundation. And our foundation is strong.

905
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 7: So it's it's way more like it's funny people have

906
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 7: a less of a reaction to me being in porn,

907
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 7: then they do it to me being in an open relationship,

908
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 7: you know, like they but like and not even that

909
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 7: it's normal porn to them. They just be like, oh,

910
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 7: that's some other shit, you know what I mean. But

911
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 7: when it's an open relationship, they then look at Jasmine

912
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 7: as an adversary instead of like we try to build something.

913
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 7: You know, she ain't Jazz is understanding of my lifestyle.

914
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 7: I'm understanding of Jasmine's lifestyle. So someone else is in

915
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 7: the mix or whatever, like we're not enemies were but

916
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 7: most like you.

917
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what people probably.

918
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 7: Think, like, No, but I'm talking about people who are

919
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 7: interested in one of us. Usually those those people, they

920
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: before it ever even escalates to anything of worth, they

921
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 7: already shot themselves in both feet and both needs because

922
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: because they're like, you know, just as Jazz said, like

923
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 7: maybe a woman is approaching me talking to me, but

924
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 7: you don't speak to Jasmine or they.

925
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: Won't say like like how is she? Exactly? You know,

926
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: how is your day? How are your kids.

927
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: Care about all around them? How's your kids? How's your mom?

928
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: Again?

929
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: And we don't we don't lift each other up, And

930
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: so I probably I would assume is that a lot

931
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: of the women that maybe approach are you know, it's

932
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of like a competition to them. I feel like,

933
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: oh maybe I could take him. You know, it becomes

934
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: like does he really love him? Let me test the limit,

935
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: let me test him to see if he'll stand for her.

936
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 5: And that's but I.

937
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: Think, no, exactly, I think, of course, like because I

938
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: think we did an episode about open relationships and just

939
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: the idea of ownership, and people want to own you,

940
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: and they just can't understand that you guys don't own

941
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: each other, but you guys still love each other and

942
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: you've chosen each other, and it's just like I think,

943
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: it's just it's an interesting.

944
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: It's an interesting idea, just a lifestyle.

945
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: Because even for me, like I I came, I was

946
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: in a relationship for seven years, and throughout those seven years,

947
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: I wanted to have sex with other people, and I

948
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: spoke to him about it and it just never came

949
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: to be. Later to find out that he was having

950
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 3: relations with many people, and I was like, well, damn nigga,

951
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: like I told you, like and now I don't want

952
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: to do that with you because now I don't trust you.

953
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 3: So then leading out of that, like, I'm like, okay,

954
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: I want to be I think I have to be

955
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: in an open relationship.

956
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: I can't imagine also.

957
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: Bindly and jealous, but that's I'm I'm jealous, but I'm

958
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: not probab jealousself.

959
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: You didn't have someone liked good lie that.

960
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: But I can't even say that though, because even with

961
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: my last situation, I just was dating someone else. It's

962
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: the first person I've dated since that relationship, and we

963
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: have had a very open relationship, Like I asked him, have.

964
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: You have to someone?

965
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's someone cool, and there was no argument

966
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: about it. But for me, I really enjoyed that.

967
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: But I also realized my e how attached to my

968
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: ego I was, and like I was like I would

969
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: I would get it would hurt me a little bit.

970
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: But then I was like, well, I'm glad that I

971
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: have a choice, Like he's not robbing me of my choice,

972
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: Like he's telling me what he's doing, and I can

973
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: either choose to stay here or I can choose to

974
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: walk away. And I realized from that situation that I

975
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: have to kind of lead every relationship at least for

976
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: me like that because I want to confront my jealousy

977
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: because I don't want to be jealous. And I realized

978
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: more than just jealousy, it's really my ego. I realize

979
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with my ego, like, oh, well,

980
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: what is she doing? Then I can't do well, why

981
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: what's so? What's so great about her? And I'm like,

982
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: this is a good woman, is not my enemy? No,

983
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: Like it has nothing to do right, It has nothing

984
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: to do with her and everything to do with me,

985
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: And I think once once you've been able to open

986
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: yourself up like that like you guys have, I mean,

987
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: it must feel like freedom, honestly, Like.

988
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 7: It reminds me of when we were doing when we

989
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 7: were doing our parties all the time. I mean, we

990
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 7: still do fantasy flight parties. Make sure you book on

991
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 7: everybody out there and podcasts, man, Yes, but when we

992
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 7: do when we do our fantasy flight parties, one of

993
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 7: the questions I would get would be that, like, what

994
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 7: what is it that this woman does that I don't do?

995
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: Like?

996
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: And I remember one time.

997
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 7: You asked the ladies, like, how many of you have

998
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 7: looked at your own vagina right?

999
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 5: And hardly anybody said that they had right.

1000
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 7: And so then I'm asking, like, you've been with more

1001
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 7: than one man where all their dicks exactly the same?

1002
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 7: Hell no, So why do you think every vagina is

1003
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 7: the same?

1004
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 5: You know?

1005
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 7: And it's like this whole thing that I just got

1006
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 7: a message recently from a woman who's trying to figure

1007
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 7: out a situation with a partner, and it's just like,

1008
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 7: maybe she's not doing something different. Maybe it's not the

1009
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 7: feel or whatever. It's just people are different and nobody

1010
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 7: is the same, whether it be inside, outside, emotionally, anything,

1011
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 7: and if that person is looking for something else, it

1012
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 7: doesn't always mean that it's an affront to you. But

1013
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 7: once they're dishonest about it, they fucked up, and that's

1014
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 7: the bad part of that.

1015
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: I have an example of that.

1016
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 6: So early on in our relationship the birthday sex lady. Okay,

1017
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 6: there was a lady that he shares the same birthday

1018
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: with and they will kind of hook up around their birthday,

1019
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 6: and so she likes she's also the you know lady right, Oh,

1020
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 6: well she's around January too.

1021
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: I like naming them. So this there was one moment

1022
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: that she likes. Anal said, I don't.

1023
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 6: I am not in love with it, like you know,

1024
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: I'm getting familiar with it, but love it like no,

1025
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 6: And that's something like he should be able to try.

1026
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: I mean, if I was guying, I had to. I mean,

1027
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 6: I've done drop on scenes and it's really awesome to

1028
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 6: do it, but like to receive it not.

1029
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't work for that way for me. So you know,

1030
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: in the beginning, I'm like, damn, like she can take

1031
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: it up the ass and I can't try harder. Yeah,

1032
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: then I'm like, I don't want to try. I don't

1033
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: like it. I mean, I don't hate it, but I

1034
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 2: don't love it.

1035
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 6: And we know, you know, we talk about like with sex,

1036
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 6: and it feels so much better if you are enjoying

1037
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: what you're doing.

1038
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: So who am I to stand in between him and

1039
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: her ass?

1040
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 6: Right?

1041
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna be in competition with with that.

1042
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 6: There's other women that he stated, like the one that

1043
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: likes to play like basketball and boxing, and she's like

1044
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 6: low key, like you know, she's like the gym, like

1045
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 6: the gym lady was, you know, to me, I don't

1046
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 6: want to do that ship. I don't want to No,

1047
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to spar with you.

1048
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to fuck. I don't want right, that's.

1049
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 6: Not fun for me. But it doesn't mean there's nothing

1050
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 6: wrong with me because I don't want to do those things,

1051
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 6: and there's nothing wrong with him for wanting to want

1052
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 6: to do those with a woman I like to I

1053
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 6: like to zumba, right, So that's mine, that's my I

1054
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: love I love it.

1055
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you know, I can't like dance anymore.

1056
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 6: Like I don't want to go late out out late

1057
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: at night dancing so I can get like a little

1058
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 6: taste of like loud music and movement. Yeah, I got

1059
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 6: a couple of them. He won't ask him you want

1060
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 6: to go to He's like, I'm not doing that. He

1061
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: just looks crazy. I'm not doing again, And.

1062
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: Who is he to stand in between me and my zoom? Yeah,

1063
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of understanding that you're never going

1064
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: to be everything to.

1065
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's why I like this relationship because I

1066
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 6: don't want to be and I feel obligated to trust

1067
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 6: too much and being I think like this style of

1068
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 6: relationship is really good for women that are a little

1069
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 6: bit older, have children, have businesses, have a lot of

1070
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 6: responsibility that and maybe don't you know, just don't want

1071
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 6: to be everything to every single person because there are

1072
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 6: times in my life where I feel like, you know, this,

1073
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 6: kidneys something, that kidney something, my job needs something, my

1074
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 6: family needs something, my man needs something. But if everybody

1075
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 6: could get a little bit of their satisfaction independently, then

1076
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 6: I can also.

1077
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 2: So I'm okay, would that? Yeah, I want a question.

1078
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions. I know, I got

1079
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: a lot of questions pertaining to this topic.

1080
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: Okay, So I know you mentioned like birthday anal girl,

1081
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: Like how how like that's.

1082
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: An awesome superhero name girl?

1083
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: She comes found your birthday birthday?

1084
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: Literally has there or is there currently like on either

1085
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 4: side or together like a long term person that everybody's

1086
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: cool with you like respects the relationship, respects you.

1087
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: You guys know maybe you guys do stuff together.

1088
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: Maybe not, but it's like a like, have you maintained

1089
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: a consistent like girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever girlfriend outside

1090
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: of your relationship.

1091
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: And are there rules and are there rules around that?

1092
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: Like if she.

1093
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: Had a boyfriend that had been around for like the

1094
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: last five years, but he was totally respectfully totally cool

1095
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 4: with you came to Christmas, Like how is that?

1096
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: Is that okay? Or is it like okay?

1097
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 7: Would be unfortunately, like for example, we had we had

1098
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 7: somebody that we both played with a little bit. I

1099
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 7: was dating her more, but she had a primary partner

1100
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 7: that in one instant she ruined it for all of

1101
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 7: us because she said something to the effect of she

1102
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 7: was gonna do something that was not really permitted in

1103
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 7: their relationship with her primary partner, and well, for us,

1104
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 7: it just debted it. Like for us, it killed it

1105
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 7: for us because we were like, well, that's your person.

1106
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 7: What you're gonna do for us? I mean, how you

1107
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 7: gonna treat us. I feel like that's been one of

1108
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 7: the issues that we've had because both of us like

1109
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 7: a woman like Jasmine, for most men, is super intimidating.

1110
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 5: You know, she runs her own business. I'm talking about

1111
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 5: she like, not hit my bad. She runs her own business.

1112
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 7: She's a mom like on some supermom ship, very dedicated

1113
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 7: to her family, runs her own practice, so not just

1114
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 7: one business, but like three, you know, so automatically for

1115
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 7: most men, it's like they want to step in and

1116
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 7: be like, I want to take care of your own situation. Yeah,

1117
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 7: tell you what what you're gonna do, even though you

1118
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 7: know I might not the dude might not even make

1119
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 7: as much money as you.

1120
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: Whatever, trying to stop you from making yours.

1121
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 7: Or you know, so like I feel like we run

1122
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 7: into that with certain men who when they approach her,

1123
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 7: their approach is just while off. So that that's one thing,

1124
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 7: and then on my side of things, a lot of

1125
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 7: the women who approach me are trying to do the

1126
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 7: same dumb ship women were trying to do before I

1127
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 7: was even with somebody, which has changed me for who

1128
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 7: I am like.

1129
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to be saved. I'm good at how one.

1130
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, they'll try to step in

1131
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 5: and be.

1132
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 7: Like, sure you want to do this porn stuff, like yeah,

1133
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 7: it's working really well for me, you know what I mean,

1134
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 7: And like as I transition into just being a business owner,

1135
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 7: I'm still going to be doing what I do, you

1136
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So it's just kind of like

1137
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 7: that is a turnoff. So we don't really run into people,

1138
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 7: especially if they're more on the vanilla side of things,

1139
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 7: who can even wrap their heads around what we do

1140
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 7: and then the take the porn and the kink and

1141
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 7: all that shit out of it. Just as business owners

1142
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 7: and people who like for both of us, we are

1143
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 7: turned on by people who like to work and go

1144
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 7: get their ship and hustle. Like that's one of the

1145
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 7: things that attracted us to each other was, Yo, we hustle,

1146
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 7: you know, so.

1147
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: Oh no, the pickens get slimmer, right.

1148
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 6: If you're out there and you don't like to hustle,

1149
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 6: that's okay.

1150
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: We can use it. Domestic help the children read.

1151
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: Speaking of children and family and all that, can you

1152
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: explain to our listeners what sex positive parenting is sure.

1153
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 6: So sex positive parenting is really just being able to

1154
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 6: have open communication with your children about sex. It's protecting

1155
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 6: your children from outside influences that educate them or miseducate

1156
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 6: them about sex, supporting them through their sex and sexuality journey,

1157
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 6: and also having good sex. Even though you have children

1158
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 6: like you having good sex or you guys, the parents

1159
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 6: are still continuing to be able to have good sex.

1160
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 6: I mean, if your children are having good sex, I

1161
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: hope that they are doing it from a pleasure based standpoint.

1162
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: And that is sex positive parents as well.

1163
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 6: It's like teaching our kids, not shaming them for having sex,

1164
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 6: you know, making sure that they're prepared if that is

1165
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 6: the route that they're going in that it is pleasure based,

1166
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 6: not pressure based.

1167
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's so interesting to say that because I

1168
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: was listening. I was listening to this TED talk and

1169
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: they were talking about in I guess.

1170
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: It's in like the Netherlands.

1171
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: Uh, that's just like the women out there and just

1172
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: in society out there.

1173
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: I guess they talk about sex.

1174
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean versus America, because Americas are so like shameful

1175
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 3: when it comes to sex, but they teach, they start

1176
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: talking about sex at such a young age with their

1177
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: with their with their girls, and they've got boys, but

1178
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: specifically their girls. Teachers, doctors, parents, that it is pleasure based,

1179
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: that they know what they want, they know that they

1180
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: don't want that. And in America, like I mean, at

1181
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: least I mean for I, adults don't know.

1182
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: I think I think it wasn't until maybe like in

1183
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: the last I.

1184
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: Think like maybe seven six seven years that I really

1185
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: start having sex for me, you know, like of course

1186
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: I had play miserable sex, but I wanted to please

1187
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: the man I was having sex with, and if I didn't,

1188
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: I felt like I failed, you know. And it's just

1189
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: crazy that we don't teach our kids about that.

1190
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know when the right time is too,

1191
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is a right time. There

1192
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: is now it's right away.

1193
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 7: I mean, you want to start at least introducing anatomically

1194
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 7: correct terms to children from.

1195
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 5: When they can listen talk, so not even just when

1196
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 5: they can talk, Yeah, just.

1197
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 7: For them to hear it, because it's important for them

1198
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 7: to be able to if God forbids something bad happens

1199
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 7: to them, to be able to explain and to let people.

1200
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 5: Know what's going on.

1201
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no.

1202
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: We did an episode about that because one of my

1203
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: friends is a therapist and she was like, she told

1204
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: me about so many different court cases with children where

1205
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: they called their vagina a butterfly or something just like

1206
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: a creature of some sort, and they couldn't convict that

1207
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: person because they couldn't identify their body. And from then

1208
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: on I was like, well, I was telling my daughter like,

1209
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: that is your vagina, that is your breast, like.

1210
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: No, peope, no, chee che, I don't even touch it lately.

1211
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that too, like just asking questions casually, yeah,

1212
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: like do an't eOne touch your vagina today? Oh no, okay, cool,

1213
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: let's go eat, like making it normal and not like

1214
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: did someone touch you?

1215
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: Would you tell me if they did? Like what are

1216
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: you doing?

1217
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: Right?

1218
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: Has been like forever you're scorn, like, oh this is bad.

1219
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: I think that's probably half my masturbation issues, Like I

1220
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 4: feel like it's naughty and I'm like, I'm sorry your

1221
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: body yeah yeah, and then you like, wait, you're thirty

1222
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: to explore yourself.

1223
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: And you're confused.

1224
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately America was started by.

1225
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 7: People who were too proud for England, so you kind

1226
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 7: of you kind of look at like the people and

1227
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 7: the way this country was was built and the different

1228
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 7: social warriors that have pushed this country along for all

1229
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 7: of these years. Where it's so interesting, like I literally

1230
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 7: when jazz is breastfeeding or something like, I want somebody

1231
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 7: to come complain about.

1232
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: This shit because I want.

1233
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 7: But it's like, we live in a society where sex

1234
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 7: will sell everything, but a woman is shamed for breast feeting.

1235
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1236
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 5: And it's like products that don't even have nothing to

1237
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: do with sex.

1238
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 7: You know, it'll be someone that's half naked, but then

1239
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 7: at the same time they shame you for your body

1240
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 7: or for sex, right, you know. So it's like this

1241
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 7: crazy twisted idea that you know, kids are sold sex

1242
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 7: but then told that you know, if they touch themselves

1243
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 7: or being you know, if they just want to be naked,

1244
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 7: you know that there's something that's horrible about it and

1245
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 7: that they should feel bad for who they are.

1246
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: So you having because you have two kids, and how

1247
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: old are they seventeen and fourteen?

1248
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Seventeen fourteen?

1249
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: So you did you start teaching teaching sex positive parenting

1250
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: from the beginning or is it something that happened much later?

1251
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 3: And then also, how do they deal with or how

1252
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: do they do they embrace or do they embrace your lifestyle?

1253
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: Was it a hard transition even or how do you

1254
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: avoid it? Because there's like social media and so no,

1255
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: we don't avoid it. We so we co parent the girls.

1256
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 6: We've been co parenting in them since they were twelve

1257
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 6: and eight and twelve.

1258
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: And no, I didn't.

1259
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 6: I started off very similar to the way that I

1260
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 6: was raised, which was you know, no communication, very like

1261
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 6: strict and you know, trying to avoid them ever having

1262
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 6: to like confront sex, which is ridiculous, and you know,

1263
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 6: they just like you said, like masturbation.

1264
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, like my daughter is masturbating.

1265
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 6: But I you know, I guess maybe as a therapist

1266
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 6: and as a child that that masturbated as well, was

1267
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 6: able to say, like, this is not sex, Like she's

1268
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 6: not in there having sex. She's self soothing, you know,

1269
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 6: And a lot of adults can use self soothing, you know,

1270
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 6: instead of always reaching out for other people to help

1271
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 6: them or or not sothing. So it just became more

1272
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 6: of an issue like if you're going to do this,

1273
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 6: just wash your hands, like that's my biggest thing. I mean,

1274
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 6: it seems, yeah, you know, like, Okay, let's put some

1275
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 6: boundaries around what you're doing. Don't do it in public,

1276
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 6: and things like that. So that was like my first like,

1277
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, she's found her parts.

1278
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 7: You know.

1279
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 6: I was calling them silly names too in the beginning,

1280
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 6: and then kind of moving forward, which kind of propelled

1281
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 6: me to be like, all right, you have to figure

1282
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 6: out how you're going to communicate with these girls about

1283
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 6: sex in a way that's not going to shame them,

1284
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: because I was working through my own shame around sex,

1285
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know, this is what everything every

1286
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 6: challenge that you have as a woman and as a mother,

1287
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 6: even as a parent in general, when you're struggling, all

1288
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 6: you can think of is I don't want my kids

1289
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 6: to struggle with this. So thankfully for them, I was

1290
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 6: going through that exploration at the same time that they

1291
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 6: were discovering themselves. My daughter I found on the tablet

1292
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 6: she'd been watching porn and she was ten, So that

1293
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 6: was something that was very different.

1294
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: You know for us, we probably like.

1295
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 6: Stumbled upon porn, and you know, I didn't realize that

1296
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 6: at ten years old, and she would be like looking

1297
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 6: for porn or maybe stumbled upon it and then went down. Yeah,

1298
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 6: I thought like at that age, maybe she'd be like,

1299
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: oh my god, like this is discussing my computers broke

1300
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 6: or something.

1301
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: The first time I saw porn, I was about that age,

1302
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 3: and I was totally intrigued and wanted to watch more.

1303
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: Right, So, so what was that? You know?

1304
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 6: So I had to have a conversation with her about that,

1305
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 6: and of course, you know, initially I was like I

1306
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 6: was heartbroken, like what did she see?

1307
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: What did I do? Yeah? How did how did I

1308
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: let this happen?

1309
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 7: Right?

1310
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 6: And then it turned to a conversation about like porn

1311
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 6: is for people that are eighteen and up. So it's

1312
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 6: not like don't ever watch it's discussing it's bad. It's

1313
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 6: when you're supposed to you can watch it. It just like

1314
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 6: everything else. If you saw your kids looking at a

1315
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 6: bottle of beer, you'd have to explain that, you know.

1316
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 6: So I started to become more positive as you know,

1317
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 6: as I started to learn more about myself as for

1318
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 6: them knowing what we do that Like, like you mentioned,

1319
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 6: I was starting a business with pole dancing and fantasy

1320
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 6: flag parties and things like that when the girls were young.

1321
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 6: So they've been on this journey with me. You know,

1322
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, you're doing a party, Well, what do

1323
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 6: you guys do at that party? So I told them

1324
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 6: enough that was appropriate for their age. We had a

1325
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 6: pole in the dining room. You know, I'm learning new

1326
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 6: tricks to teach the ladies at my parties. They knew

1327
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 6: I wasn't stripping at the time and people weren't coming

1328
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 6: to the house getting lap.

1329
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: Dances, so you know, it is what it is. I

1330
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: didn't want to.

1331
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 6: I didn't want to shame myself for enjoying pole dancing.

1332
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 6: And my daughter, who is a gymnast, would say, like, well,

1333
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 6: if you like tucked your hips.

1334
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: Under and tighten your core, you'd be able to hold

1335
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: that longer. Like shit, okay, you know, so.

1336
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 6: Like little you know, things like that. They've been along

1337
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 6: the journey. As far as I'm knowing what we do.

1338
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 6: They know I don't want them to stumble across it.

1339
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 6: They embrace it, like you know, I don't know how

1340
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 6: to explain it. They're they're fine with it. They love

1341
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 6: that we make money, that's number one. They love that

1342
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 6: we're happy. You know, nothing about their foundation is threatened by.

1343
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: What we do.

1344
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 5: Social media is black.

1345
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: Both kids yeah, happening if their friends ever like, have

1346
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: they come to you? Like my friend said like like,

1347
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 4: how how's that obstacle?

1348
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: So it's happened in the beginning, well, once it's happened,

1349
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 6: and my daughter was like, oh, yeah, they found your

1350
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 6: Instagram page and I was like, okay, good, so y'all

1351
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 6: on Instagram and I spoke to the children that were

1352
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 6: following me and maybe their parents as well. So I

1353
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 6: think when the kids saw that, like oh shit, like

1354
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 6: we can't like her mom's bed, like she's not gonna

1355
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 6: let you shame her, and you know, I just said like,

1356
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 6: if you're looking at my sights, then you're doing something inappropriate.

1357
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 6: And you know, the kids will tell like so now

1358
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,959
Speaker 6: they're like people will come like, hey, like I saw

1359
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 6: something about your mom, and so.

1360
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: My daughter's kind of like, what what's happening?

1361
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 6: You know, and then they feel a little uncomfortable like

1362
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 6: oh do I tell her? And my daughter will say

1363
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 6: things like well, you know that's an adult site, so

1364
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 6: you're not supposed to be on there, right, So educating

1365
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 6: them how to have comebacks if you know, they're.

1366
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 5: Fine in that way, Like the weirdest one.

1367
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 7: One time, my niece and I taken her out to

1368
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 7: go shopping or.

1369
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 5: Something for school. She's like a whole bunch of my

1370
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 5: friends followed.

1371
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 7: But at the time she was in college, but it

1372
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 7: was still She's still a baby to me.

1373
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 5: So I'm like, what do you mean they followed?

1374
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 7: They need to not be following me, And she was like,

1375
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 7: I'm nineteen, they're in college.

1376
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, tell them to stop following.

1377
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: You tell a ninety year old not to do something

1378
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: they don't.

1379
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's interesting just because most most

1380
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 7: of our family, we're open and honest with them because

1381
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 7: we wantn't want them to be like blindsided by somebody.

1382
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 7: So I think it's very important to let them know,

1383
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 7: like this.

1384
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 5: Is what's going on, this is what's happening that way there.

1385
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: So did you have like a sit down with your

1386
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: family or was it just more of like gradual, gradual

1387
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: and gradual and.

1388
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 6: Then with the girls, like I had decided at a

1389
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 6: certain age kind of like all these things kind of happened,

1390
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 6: like right around turning thirty.

1391
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 2: That I want to be who I am.

1392
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: You know.

1393
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,879
Speaker 2: That I'm their mother. I will provide for them, I love.

1394
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 6: Them, I'll do everything that I am supposed to do

1395
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 6: and more.

1396
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 2: But I have to be who.

1397
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 6: I am, and even if they don't like who I am, like,

1398
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 6: that's okay because when they become older, they'll remember, like,

1399
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 6: they'll respective respect it, and they'll be who they want

1400
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 6: to be as women, you know, and that's fine with me.

1401
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 6: I may not like that either, but as long as like,

1402
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 6: you're okay with it, and you know, we talk about

1403
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 6: natural consequences with everything, like being imporn means that there

1404
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 6: are some natural consequences.

1405
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you'll lose.

1406
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 6: Some respect from some people that you probably don't even

1407
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 6: care about.

1408
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1409
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 6: Being in the adult industry has its perks and it

1410
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 6: also has its drawbacks. There's certain things I have to

1411
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 6: tell my daughters, like block your page. I need to

1412
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 6: see everybody that is following you. We can't post where

1413
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 6: we are in the moment that we're at that place.

1414
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 6: So it has it's it's it's drawbacks. But at the

1415
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 6: end of the day, they're seeing two people that love

1416
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 6: ourselves and then we love each other. We have you know,

1417
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 6: we're able to even show them a healthy relationship, which

1418
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 6: I know people who are not in the porn industry

1419
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 6: who can't.

1420
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: Offer that to their children. I think we only have

1421
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: a few more questions.

1422
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 13: Guys.

1423
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 3: I want to get you guys out of here because

1424
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 3: I know you get a baby, but I just have

1425
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: a I wanted to ask you as far as the

1426
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: femdom and all that and everything in that world or

1427
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: I'm so like stupid wanting to talk about this because

1428
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: I'm un educated.

1429
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: But are you do you? Or do you consider yourself

1430
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: a dom? Or are you? I know you do, so,

1431
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: then how does that work if you both are? Or

1432
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: would you ever? Are you ever submissive?

1433
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 5: No?

1434
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: Have you ever been? Never?

1435
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 7: I mean I've put myself in situations where I guess

1436
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 7: you can consider it.

1437
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's hard to like, I'm not a

1438
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 5: submissive person.

1439
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 7: I've never been a submissive person, always kept both middle

1440
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 7: fingers up to authority.

1441
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: But you have to be a submissive person in your

1442
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: and like you have to be.

1443
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 7: There are situations and circumstances, like for example, with flogging.

1444
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 7: Like I've been flogged before, but I didn't consider myself

1445
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 7: to be a submissive when I was getting flogged. I

1446
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 7: wanted to know how it felt so I can apply

1447
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 7: it on other people and know what I'm doing. If

1448
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 7: I do something nice for Jasmine. I think people's perceptions

1449
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 7: of what domination and submissive are are are almost like

1450
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 7: as rigid as every other box that people try to

1451
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 7: put themselves into. So I'm not like if we're at

1452
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 7: home and she's like, can you do this for me?

1453
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 5: Like, no, I'm a dominator that ship, you know what

1454
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 5: I mean, Like, it's not it's not like that, you know.

1455
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,440
Speaker 7: I Also, I don't consider Jasmine to be a submissive

1456
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 7: at all either. We're equals, so we don't dominate each other.

1457
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 7: There are certain like I guess sometimes you will say

1458
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 7: you're a switch, but I don't really look at you

1459
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 7: as a switch though, you know what I.

1460
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: Mean, Well, yeah, I'm not.

1461
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 6: I do like maybe situationally or if I say, like,

1462
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 6: you know, like you make all the decisions, but it's

1463
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 6: it's still very like I'm making a.

1464
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Decision right.

1465
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 6: And well for professional purposes. Sometimes I do switch just

1466
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 6: because I want to try something new. Like one of

1467
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 6: the cool things for me about being in the industry

1468
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 6: is that you like, where else are you going to

1469
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 6: be able to like put a strap on on your

1470
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 6: foot and fuck somebody.

1471
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 13: In the ass, like on your foot, yeah, like this, yeah,

1472
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 13: like you know, or wrestling, and I, you know, those.

1473
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: Experiences just don't like pop up on my Facebook feed.

1474
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 6: So I some there are some being tied up and

1475
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 6: tickled and forced orgasm and things like that. I've been

1476
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 6: able to do, like fun shoots like that that require

1477
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 6: me to take on a submissive space even though I

1478
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 6: like cursing the whole time. So that's why I usually

1479
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 6: say I'm more dominant, but I'll say that I'm a

1480
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 6: switch because I him be in those situations and have

1481
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 6: fun or explore them.

1482
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't. We don't dumb each other like we.

1483
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: Just do you guys have any specific fetishes that you

1484
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: guys are into individually?

1485
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: Like what are yours and what are yours? Is there

1486
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: anything you're not into?

1487
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there's some if you're not if

1488
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: you're not like submissive, there's probably certain things you're probably

1489
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: not down for.

1490
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 6: But yeah, but even though I may like them to

1491
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 6: do other people right now, I think so it was

1492
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 6: edging for a while. Now it's definitely spitting, yeah, like

1493
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 6: and someone's not everywhere all over them.

1494
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, And then edging can you explain

1495
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: to what I know?

1496
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 6: So edging is when you are withholding someone's orgasm, you know,

1497
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 6: so you're bringing them like just to a point and

1498
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 6: not allowing them to have an orgasm.

1499
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: That's one of the forms of edging.

1500
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 7: For me, I think my longest lasting fetish. And it

1501
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 7: has not changed, like it's just like ingrained to who

1502
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 7: I am. It's just I'm an exhibitionist. I love to

1503
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 7: be wi it never fails, like someone's there watching, I'm

1504
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 7: extra turned off.

1505
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 5: As of late.

1506
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 7: I mean, I would say different forms of impact play

1507
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 7: have been more and more what I'm into, Like I

1508
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 7: got into flogging about three four years ago and now

1509
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 7: I'm into whips.

1510
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: Can you tell us for the listeners? What's flogging?

1511
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: Flogging is everything? Flogging Flogging is an impact play that's

1512
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 5: done with.

1513
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 7: It can be material of any so it could be leather,

1514
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 7: it could be like elk, it could be plastic cord.

1515
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 7: But it's usually like tassels like these right here. I

1516
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 7: bring them with me sometimes because people ask these questions.

1517
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 7: So it's these kind of tassels and you work them

1518
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 7: about someone's body. So it can be light touches, it

1519
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 7: can be sent touches, sensual touches.

1520
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: This is kind of like this chain nice, So this

1521
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: is what I see you whipping around and.

1522
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 5: Dangerous.

1523
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 7: So like the impact, Like if you like getting spanked,

1524
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 7: you like getting spanked, so it's it's similar to that.

1525
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 5: But each material is different.

1526
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 7: Each way that you hit someone is different, so it

1527
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 7: sends different sensations through the body.

1528
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: I like doing it rhythmically.

1529
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 7: I'm a musician, so like the rhythm part of it

1530
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 7: is a big turn off for me. Watching what it

1531
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 7: does to a person's body, like how it changes their

1532
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 7: breathing or how it makes them move in different ways,

1533
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 7: Like it's an extreme turno because it's just like another

1534
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 7: way to please somebody, And for me, I think BDSM.

1535
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 7: I love it because as for play, it just extends everything.

1536
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: It makes everything longer, it makes everything psychological. So by

1537
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 7: the time you even get to edging, or by the

1538
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 7: time you get to actually penetration, penetration or climax, it's

1539
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 7: been built up so long and so strong that it

1540
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 7: just makes it that much more enjoyable and that much

1541
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 7: more explosive. So like we're flogging, to me, you get

1542
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 7: to explore somebody's body without even touching them, you know.

1543
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 7: So now I've been learning how to use dragontails, which

1544
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 7: are a different form of whip. It's kind of like

1545
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,520
Speaker 7: a folded over fabric kind of like if you imagine,

1546
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 7: it gives you the same feel, but I think in

1547
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 7: a more concentrated way than if someone snaps you with

1548
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 7: a towel. And so like, I'm also learning how to

1549
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 7: throw a bull whip now, and like different kinds of whips.

1550
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: Who knew there's so many levels to this interesting.

1551
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 5: And that's the other thing that I feel is.

1552
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 7: Sexy and romantic about it is, especially when you're doing

1553
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 7: it with your partner. It's like y'all are learning different

1554
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 7: things together, and mostly because both of us, Like Jazz

1555
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 7: is real nice with her hands, Like it's beautiful to

1556
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 7: watch her and like the hands she can warm somebody

1557
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 7: up for me to then go even harder with a

1558
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 7: different kind of instrument, or she takes to riding crops,

1559
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 7: and so it's like we're learning different things that we

1560
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 7: then use together on people.

1561
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: So for any of our listeners who like are interested

1562
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: in just getting more and just experimenting in any realm

1563
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: of this, what would be like, what's like the beginner's guy, Like,

1564
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: what's like, how do you intro into.

1565
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 5: A fantasy flight.

1566
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 7: Because I tell everybody a fantasy flight party is the

1567
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 7: same as when you go on vacation.

1568
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 5: You know where you want to be, Like I want

1569
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 5: to go to Turks and kkos. You don't fly your

1570
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 5: own planet. That's what we do. You're like, I want

1571
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 5: to learn how to flogg.

1572
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 7: I want to experience being flogged, or I want me

1573
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 7: and my friends to just have a party where we

1574
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 7: find out what our kinks and our fetishes are. That's

1575
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 7: where we come in. We wear those you know, with

1576
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 7: the pilots. We get you there. You know, we set

1577
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 7: it up, We make sure that it happens in a

1578
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 7: way that's going to be safe and pleasurable, and judges

1579
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 7: or if you don't want to have it be a group.

1580
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,520
Speaker 7: We do private fetish training one on one or for couples.

1581
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: Email for these schedules.

1582
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 6: You can do info at jet Sitting jazz dot com

1583
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 6: or on any of our social media and will direct

1584
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 6: you based on.

1585
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 5: What is come go down on us and go down, go.

1586
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: Down people going down in them. Okay, I have one

1587
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: last question, one last question just because you just had

1588
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: a baby, and I know when I had a baby,

1589
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: I know we have a lot of listeners that have

1590
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: children or are pregnant or thinking about having kids.

1591
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: For me, when I was pregnant, I don't know about you.

1592
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't horny at all. I didn't want to have sex,

1593
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: and even after having my kid, I think I think

1594
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 3: I was just I was definitely going through postpartum and

1595
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 3: also I I wasn't comfortable with my body anymore, and

1596
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 3: which definitely didn't make me feel comfortable having sex either.

1597
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: My partner didn't understand what I was going through. How

1598
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: did you?

1599
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 3: How did you feel when you were pregnant as far

1600
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 3: as sexually and then how now because you're the only

1601
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: eight weeks postpartum, how are you transitioning back into sex?

1602
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: Are you having sex.

1603
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: Or do you have any recommendations for people that that

1604
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 3: are because I feel like I wish I would have

1605
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: had someone to explain what was going through, what was happening.

1606
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, yeah, this is really fresh for me. So

1607
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 6: in the beginning, I was sick the first three trimesters,

1608
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 6: so that was gross. No, the first I mean I

1609
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 6: meant to say the first three months.

1610
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: With all three children. The first trimester, it was horrible.

1611
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 6: So we didn't have sex then because I would literally

1612
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 6: like throw up. After we had I was I know,

1613
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 6: I felt bad, but we found other ways to connect.

1614
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: With one another.

1615
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 6: I think that's probably the most important part. Like even

1616
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 6: when I didn't feel like turned on a horny, I

1617
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 6: felt loved and I felt close, you know, just him

1618
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 6: either taking care of me or like when I was

1619
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 6: going through a lot of like hormonal shifts, he wouldn't

1620
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 6: feed into it. He just kind of like let it pass,

1621
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 6: you know, but still validating the craziness, but let it

1622
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 6: like let it pass.

1623
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,879
Speaker 2: So that was important.

1624
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 6: The second trimester is when we filmed our sacred sex film,

1625
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 6: like just.

1626
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: One I saw that congratulations.

1627
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 6: So that was fun and it was fun to do

1628
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 6: because we were trying to figure out like what positions

1629
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 6: to get into and I think I was self conscious

1630
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 6: of my body and like what can we do? And

1631
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 6: then we would start and then I'd be like, oh, yeah,

1632
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,480
Speaker 6: that's no, no, that don't feel good anymore.

1633
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: Like wait, you on the baby, you know.

1634
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 6: But it was fun and because it forced us to communicate,

1635
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 6: he had to do different things, and you know, so

1636
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 6: that in itself, it's like if you don't go in

1637
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 6: with the expectation that you're going to be like smooth

1638
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 6: like butter, and that you are going to stop a

1639
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 6: couple of times, you might laugh at each other, then

1640
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 6: you're going to go into having a good time. And

1641
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 6: then towards the end, I kind of felt like I

1642
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 6: felt big, and you know, it wasn't It wasn't quite

1643
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 6: the same.

1644
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: I did watch a lot of peorn because you were

1645
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: traveling a lot by the way, you know.

1646
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 6: And the interesting thing is that I watched things that

1647
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 6: I wouldn't normally watch that way.

1648
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: I was watching a lot of gang Bang I don't know,

1649
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: and I don't I normally like nothing's wrong with them,

1650
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: It's just not my genre.

1651
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 6: And it was like, I don't know, I need to

1652
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 6: go and test and see if it still works.

1653
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: Now I was gonna, you know, I haven't that's your

1654
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 2: normal genre lesbian? Really yeah, I hate.

1655
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 5: That was like me.

1656
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: It was like the first porn I ever watched, and

1657
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 2: I just still love it.

1658
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 5: Still doesn't.

1659
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: I used to like it, but now I'm like this,

1660
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: this is fake. Don't run it for me.

1661
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 5: I think it depends on who you watch.

1662
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 6: You don't watch girl, I never lets me experienced, and

1663
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 6: I was like, it's just well, well for me, and

1664
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 6: I'll go back to the pregnancy thing.

1665
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 2: Let's be important. It's just it's softer sensual. It's more sensual.

1666
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: That's it.

1667
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 6: I mean, women we connect much faster with each other,

1668
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 6: just not even sentually, just you know, hey girl, and

1669
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 6: you know we know how to be like instant best

1670
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 6: friends in the moment, so that trans translates.

1671
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1672
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 4: There's also like a lot of white girl porn and

1673
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 4: it's like, oh yeah, and I watched it.

1674
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't listen to the sound.

1675
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mute it, or I like playing music because

1676
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 6: I audio will turn it off.

1677
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, okay, none of this. So I was

1678
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: watching silent gangs.

1679
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 5: And did they have clo.

1680
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: You that? Oh god. So the third times was a

1681
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 2: little bit more challenging.

1682
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of times, like and then I wanted

1683
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 6: the baby to come out, so you know, let's do this.

1684
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: So that wasn't super sensual. It was very functional.

1685
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 6: And then yes, we've had we had sex, like the

1686
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 6: day that I turned eight weeks like eight weeks post

1687
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 6: part of and.

1688
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Actually four days ago. It was good. It was really enjoyable.

1689
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 6: I am conscious of my body, you know, I'm not

1690
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 6: comfortable and it just doesn't feel like, I'm very I

1691
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 6: am aware of why my body has changed, that it's

1692
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 6: going to take some time for it to go back

1693
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 6: into place, or maybe we'll never go back to how

1694
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 6: it was. But I my new normal, what I wanted

1695
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 6: to be. It's going to take time to get there.

1696
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 6: But it doesn't mean I'm comfortable. Like you know, coming here,

1697
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, this is vague enough, and can.

1698
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: I breastfeed in it? And can I say thank you?

1699
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 6: Can I say it for a long time? With these

1700
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 6: buttons and all that kind of stuff. I just put

1701
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 6: a postpartum project on my Instagram and website today and

1702
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,480
Speaker 6: it talks about all of those like the shift mentally physically,

1703
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 6: and also doing a nude photo shoot six weeks out.

1704
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was six weeks in DC.

1705
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 6: Six weeks postpartum, no makeup, no filters, no touch ups

1706
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 6: to the just this is what a thirty eight year

1707
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 6: old woman's body looks like after having her third child

1708
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 6: after fourteen years.

1709
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: And you know, it's not so bad. I bet, girl,

1710
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: because you look good. Thank you dude.

1711
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 3: But I don't mean yeah, I mean I think most

1712
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 3: women I'm probably don't you mean she was like this

1713
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 3: small when she was pregnant and then like what like

1714
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,520
Speaker 3: like bounced back like five seconds.

1715
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, when when I first saw my baby,

1716
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on? Even sex? I

1717
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: was like, what is this? I even thinking?

1718
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 6: Like when I do get back down the side, like

1719
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 6: my breast stag before, so like are they going to

1720
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 6: be even more? You know, I had to stretch marks

1721
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 6: and are they going to be even worse? So all

1722
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 6: of those things. But I've never been turned down because

1723
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 6: of my body, you know, And so I'm like I

1724
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 6: don't think that's gonna happen.

1725
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1726
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then for you, I have like pregnancy sex.

1727
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: What is that like for a man? Is that is

1728
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Is it true that the pussy is tighter? Is it?

1729
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 3: Do you feel the baby's head? Like honestly, I know

1730
01:26:53,240 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: you don't, but you know or have you ever had

1731
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 3: pregnancy sex and porn? Like prior to that, I hadn't

1732
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 3: had it in porn, but I had in life.

1733
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1734
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't his baby, Let's get that real clear.

1735
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 5: I think it was.

1736
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 4: Would you have been opposed if she wanted to have

1737
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: somebody else while she was parkning with your baby?

1738
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: Because that's a big man thing, because you guy are

1739
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: so open. But like for a man shot, I didn't

1740
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: do any penetration. Okay, yeah, would you have had a problem.

1741
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 5: That's our body for to make that ship.

1742
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: I was no, very yeah.

1743
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 7: I think for me, even even in the first trimester,

1744
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 7: she was like I'm sick and all this, you know,

1745
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 7: I was just like, my baby is sexy as hell,

1746
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 7: like when people say that pregnant glow, Like I saw.

1747
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 5: That in her the entire time.

1748
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1749
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 7: It's just like I found her to be even more attractive.

1750
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 7: And even if we weren't having sex, it was just

1751
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 7: kind of like let me, let me, let me talk

1752
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 7: to you know what I mean, let me touch it,

1753
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 7: let me hold you, let me what do you want?

1754
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 7: What can I get you? Like, I felt very much

1755
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 7: connected and sex wise, like when like especially, I mean

1756
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 7: I think about the scene because it was it wasn't

1757
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 7: like at home. You know, when you're at home, it's

1758
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 7: just kind of like, yo, let's get it in, let's

1759
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 7: do it. You know, how are you comfortable? Where are

1760
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 7: you comfortable? But in the scene, it's like, well, where

1761
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 7: are you comfortable? How are you comfortable? And how are

1762
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 7: we going to make it look good a way that

1763
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 7: you're comfortable with it looking because it was like Jazz

1764
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 7: was like, I want to show women positions that they

1765
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 7: can do when they're pregnant, So when we take the pictures,

1766
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 7: we need to do it from this angle so they

1767
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 7: could see where we're do it, you know what I mean.

1768
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 5: Like it was that aspect of it.

1769
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 7: Really made me, made me appreciate just what a woman

1770
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 7: has to go through body wise in a situation we've

1771
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 7: had sex so many times or shot so many times,

1772
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 7: and any other time she was like I don't give

1773
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 7: with a camera, like let's.

1774
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 5: Get it, you know.

1775
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 7: So it was like, I don't know that is the

1776
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 7: pussy did for I mean, I felt that she was

1777
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 7: wetter all the time, just natural body stuff is going on.

1778
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 7: So that aspect of it, but I don't know how

1779
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 7: to explain it. It was just like a different kind of connection,

1780
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 7: a deeper kind of connection.

1781
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 5: Cool.

1782
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeahful, Yeah it is. No. You guys are amazing.

1783
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on sharing your life,

1784
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: a little snippet of your life with us.

1785
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: I we have we had like a lot of questions

1786
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 2: coming in. We're like, oh my god, we have so

1787
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: many questions, and I feel like I feel lightened. I

1788
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 2: feel super enlightened. Yeah, and I feel like my perspective

1789
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: has changed.

1790
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 3: Like im not not to say that I was judgmental,

1791
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 3: but I didn't understand fully. I was intrigued by it,

1792
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: but I didn't fully understand how you balance your lifestyle.

1793
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 3: And it seems so.

1794
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 2: Non natural and normal. That makes sense. I'm really excited

1795
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: for all of our listeners.

1796
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 4: To hear it.

1797
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1798
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely make sure that they go to Royal Fetish

1799
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Speaker 7: xxx dot com, jetset and Jasmine dot com. And if

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Speaker 7: they are going through certain things, then they need to

1801
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Speaker 7: go to.

1802
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: Blue Pearl Therapy. It's Blue Parol Therapy dot org.

1803
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 3: Awesome, cool, thank you, thank you, thank you for having us. Well, guys,

1804
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: that's it for tonight's episode. Make sure you also follow

1805
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Speaker 3: us I could Mom's Bad Choices.

1806
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: And we will see you next week.

1807
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Speaker 11: We Got to Sex Appeal Fail four Foot to the

1810
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Speaker 11: Ghetto Frost Little Game by the Sharp as the thrown

1811
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 11: squing shown with the crown. She was born of a

1812
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Speaker 11: thorm pinky like pinky through fils coat hustling the blood

1813
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Speaker 11: with a.

1814
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 5: High yatchu set.

1815
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 11: With sex, super kicks, professional beauty against the like super

1816
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Speaker 11: brain is exceptional. That's a double lot of times, a

1817
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Speaker 11: shopping cort full.

1818
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Speaker 5: Of roats, changing Excel condos.

1819
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 11: The conversation is full play live souls online, swing on

1820
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 11: the doorway, swirt the dad pole sworking door ticks, pop

1821
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 11: de pussy likes poppolos, a right to stripping in the

1822
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 11: fiat pet and the best part.

1823
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 5: Is that she leave with me.

1824
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Sees chicken and GM like up, I'm not want to

1825
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: take in a.

1826
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Snap and I'm gonna want to sing it.

1827
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Speaker 11: She may be Magdaleno, sat its cross and none the

1828
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 11: wars coming me, a man in the claw, broke plates

1829
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 11: just enough to wait forgetting us so off this thing

1830
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 11: here for late no Kernel divorced punishment of his competry

1831
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Speaker 11: when paying his pleasure, he fetishes fifth Netslee six the

1832
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Speaker 11: lethought saft Word's play Storm based on