WEBVTT - Nightcap - Part 1: Bengals Money Troubles Continue + Rodgers All-In

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<v Speaker 1>There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Burrow says he wants the

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<v Speaker 1>team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says

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<v Speaker 1>the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a listen to what Joe had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say tomorrow and Ti having a great de deals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Trey here, his deal not done.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a distraction?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course? Of course last year we had two, this

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<v Speaker 2>year we have one, so we do have less to

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<v Speaker 2>have none.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, that's a life in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all supporting Tray and would love for him to

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<v Speaker 3>be back.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hm Oh Joe, yes, sir, to take well, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I love Joe. Joe also has to understand this is business.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the business, and the Browns have one way of

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<v Speaker 5>doing things. They've done things one way. And despite what

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<v Speaker 5>he may say, despite his concerns about wanting Tree to

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<v Speaker 5>be paid or him or being a distraction with him

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<v Speaker 5>not getting paid. This is the way they conduct business.

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<v Speaker 5>All teams conduct business in the same manner. They're not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be swayed or forced or bullied into paying the.

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<v Speaker 3>Individual based on how we as.

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<v Speaker 5>Players or that the former or fans see fit.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to do things their way.

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<v Speaker 5>They paid, they paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 5>they played, they paid t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the numbers in front of me. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how much is left and in caloriees salary

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<v Speaker 5>cap space.

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<v Speaker 2>But not enough to pay Trade what he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually not enough to pay him what he wants. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.

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<v Speaker 3>But from what I've heard that there are no talks

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<v Speaker 3>going on at all.

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<v Speaker 5>So obviously trade Trade is standing in his ground and

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<v Speaker 5>he's not in a position despite being the sack leader

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<v Speaker 5>last year and the sack leader before that the year

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<v Speaker 5>before that, Like he was a sack leader, but what

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<v Speaker 5>was our defense rank?

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<v Speaker 3>Can someone look that can't ask with that up right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he just was really quick curious, well, without

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<v Speaker 1>Trade you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had trade for you at the bottom at

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so they look at all that they look at Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to get paid.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to get paid for based on what he's done,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to date.

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<v Speaker 5>But they look at it completely different than the way

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<v Speaker 5>we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I love my bangals and I love I would love

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<v Speaker 5>for trade to get paid. But uh, it's a tough

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<v Speaker 5>spot that that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen, Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>at the least opportune time, when we least expected.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it like this O Joe, considering he's

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive player, and when you look at that

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line, who else. Most teams have two guys, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have Micah and then you have another guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you look at let's just say, for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of Mark, you look at the Eagles, they have multiple guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at Kansas City, they have h Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>have Coloptus. You know, they have multiple guys most teams,

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<v Speaker 1>although they're not on the same level, but they have.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,

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<v Speaker 1>so most guys have somebody to play off of.

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<v Speaker 2>It's him. He'll let the league in sacks. But really

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<v Speaker 2>no one else beside it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>And brother Sam Hubbert just retired, yes most of yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was hurting.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, when I think about it, I look at the

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<v Speaker 5>AFC North right, Yeah, standpoint and needing defensive players. It's

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<v Speaker 5>bad enough. We're already bad on defense. Let's not make

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<v Speaker 5>it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, we we need trading in the in the dearest

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<v Speaker 5>dearest way possible to try to do what we can defensively,

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<v Speaker 5>so we can we can. We can start a little

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<v Speaker 5>better this season. You know, I know we always talk

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<v Speaker 5>about the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they always start slowers out out the gate,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being zero and to or one in one

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta get their problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>have one bad, too bad possession. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you fourteen points down.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you gotta lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's just say, for the sake of army, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lead. That we saw this against Baltimore they

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<v Speaker 1>have too bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the lead lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what how far away are we from from

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<v Speaker 3>having a decent defense? Just curious from your listen, you

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<v Speaker 3>know this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this is and y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all

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<v Speaker 5>released Pratt. Yeah, so wall hold on Pratt with prap

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<v Speaker 5>prap with the middle back. Where was the mic linebacker? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he led your team and tackles, Yeah he did so.

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<v Speaker 5>Logan Wilson plays.

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<v Speaker 2>They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in the second round

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<v Speaker 2>out of South Caroline.

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<v Speaker 5>I was reading yesterday the night they must he must go,

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<v Speaker 5>being really high on him. Yeah, we're gonna he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>plug and play then, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember Pratt was like, hey, he wanted a contract extension.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to be you don't want to bump and pay, Like, noah, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't bump you and pay. I was reading now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, maybe somebody just throwing out

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<v Speaker 1>numbers I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, trying to get him to twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's looking at listening to anything that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one

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<v Speaker 1>guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy

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<v Speaker 1>making thirty, and then y'all want me to come in

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And he sees Miles Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows Michael is about to get something that starts

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<v Speaker 1>with a four, and y'all want me to start with

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<v Speaker 1>a two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just don't see that.

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<v Speaker 5>Not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be fair.

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<v Speaker 5>If he wants to get what he wants, he's not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be able to get it because everything you just

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<v Speaker 5>ran off, we just pay one thirty and one making

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<v Speaker 5>fifty five, then there's no room for you to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you take do you take a discount? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>take a discounting?

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<v Speaker 2>Know?

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<v Speaker 1>The question is better question does he miss the first

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<v Speaker 1>eight games and then come back to last eight games

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure he gets a credited season or does

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I would do, because if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>come back, they still have your rights, So I would

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<v Speaker 1>you know it? That depends on how serious he is

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<v Speaker 1>about his money.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's serious, He's serious.

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<v Speaker 5>And this, this is this is the thing that you

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<v Speaker 5>can do when they know you love the game, when

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<v Speaker 5>they know you love the game, and they know you

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<v Speaker 5>can't stay away.

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<v Speaker 3>From the game.

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<v Speaker 5>They always wants to be team for team, that team

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<v Speaker 5>oriented and be the but when it comes time to play,

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<v Speaker 5>this is what this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now just talk about the Bengals in general. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about in general.

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<v Speaker 5>They will use your love for the game against you

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<v Speaker 5>because the ben inside of things will sneak up on

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<v Speaker 5>you and bite your knaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might

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<v Speaker 1>be the only guy that I can remember that missed

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<v Speaker 1>the whole season and then he ended up turning it

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<v Speaker 1>around and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's with Washington and he ended up going

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<v Speaker 1>to Carolina. It might be vice versa, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I think the thing is to say what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do. It's easy to say what because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in that situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Me.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't missing no time. I understood that that was time,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna be able to get back. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, oh Joe, I think the thing is, they

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<v Speaker 1>know the guys that really everybody don't love the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we do. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they're gonna hard time us. Well this is

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<v Speaker 1>all we can knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,

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<v Speaker 1>but we ain't missing no half of those seasons low

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<v Speaker 1>times either.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's talk. We love it too much, listen.

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<v Speaker 5>And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.

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<v Speaker 5>I think where they came to me early twice, right

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<v Speaker 5>in the early where I didn't have to deal with

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<v Speaker 5>that type of situation. It is to me, it's almost

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<v Speaker 5>it's almost a slap in the face a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>And you think about it, Yeah, almost a slapping the face.

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<v Speaker 5>And we take it personally as players, and I know

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<v Speaker 5>they do when situation like this arise. When you understand

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<v Speaker 5>what your value is, you understand what the market is,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you have a team that's hesitating in giving you.

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<v Speaker 3>Said market value. Make it that hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. One thing about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care how many how many players you got

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<v Speaker 5>got paid. There's always a way to make it happen

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<v Speaker 5>depending on who the players. You do understand that, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't get from the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>O't Yoe.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had this problem last year and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>resolve it and during the season or after the season,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes you thought the the problem is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go away. It's like if you have a disease and

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about it, just because you don't talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you better go get it. You better treat it because

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, but because not talking about a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like two people argue, know Joe, and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to bed. That issue is not gonna be resolved

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning because you didn't talk about it that night.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, you're gonna give people an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to build up. They're like this more for playing

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<v Speaker 1>with me. They couldn't address me. They know, so you

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<v Speaker 1>laid over the steaming. She led over their steaming. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get out of bed in the morning, you stepping

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<v Speaker 1>on lips because the lift poked out to the float.

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<v Speaker 2>His lifts poked out to the float.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't understand how the Bengals thought this situation

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<v Speaker 1>and he had another seventeen and a half sex season,

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<v Speaker 1>and he led the NFL in sacks, and somehow you

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<v Speaker 1>thought he would go beat Well, we got a good

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go. You had a good chance to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl last year or the playoffs last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen. Guys are not you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Teams always want you to think, oh, fake big picture.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the big picture is me and my family. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture. I'll thinking about y'all because, oh, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>what they what they tell you? O Joe when they

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<v Speaker 1>release players? You here, and I think we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this a little later, y'all here, And Cody kIPS

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<v Speaker 1>said what he's saying. They're always thinking about what isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the best interest of the team. Okay, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>best interest of the business? Okay, players are businesses. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't the best interest of Trey Henderson?

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<v Speaker 2>Not playing?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't the best interest in Trey Henderson being all unest Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling the guy what he should or what

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<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't do, but this is what.

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<v Speaker 2>We do know.

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<v Speaker 1>He take his ass out there on that field, and

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<v Speaker 1>he gets anything that happens, Lord forbid, it does not, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't getting no pay day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is

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<v Speaker 5>tough on in the tough spot. The Bengals organization is

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<v Speaker 5>in a tough spot. Trey Henderson is in a tough spot.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that

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<v Speaker 5>are in an organization, those that are on the team,

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<v Speaker 5>those that are at mini camp right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for the fans it's a distraction and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like overwhelming and they're like, God, damn, here we

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<v Speaker 3>go again. But again fans.

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<v Speaker 5>As players, you have to be able to separate the

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<v Speaker 5>personal side of being a football player.

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<v Speaker 3>In the business side.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you can park, you can compartmentalize and

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<v Speaker 5>be able to separate the two and understand that it

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<v Speaker 5>is business first.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not personal.

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<v Speaker 5>It's nothing against you as a player, but this is

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<v Speaker 5>the way they conduct themselves, not just with the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 5>but with every team in general.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I want Tree to get his money though, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>even if it's not with us, I would love to

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<v Speaker 5>see him back with the Bengals, but I would also

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<v Speaker 5>love to see him get what he deserves somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Else, because I think the thing is, oh Joe. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens is that Joe would like to talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal practice they'll had, yes, sir, But the

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<v Speaker 1>media is asking him Trade's contract. They're asking m him

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<v Speaker 1>about the rookies contract, who we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in just a second. So he's like, bro, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, T and I had a great comment,

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<v Speaker 1>had a great work today. We got some great work

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<v Speaker 1>to done today. We got better today. But you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>me about a player that's not here. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want me to say. Joe is being the

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<v Speaker 1>leader that he is. Yeah, we love to have Trade

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's done enough to He's earned, not deserve,

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<v Speaker 1>he's earned a raise and pay because guess what, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, for the sake of argument, o Jo, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having seventeen the half sacks, he had five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they would keep him on the contract

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<v Speaker 2>that he has now? Absolutely not? I answer it for

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<v Speaker 2>you know they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he outperforms the contract, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>reward him, But if he underperformed, you will punish him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And that's the way it is. And hopefully fans

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<v Speaker 2>like see that and I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I understand you weren't running a business, but the

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<v Speaker 1>guys normally played best guy's team after being in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a business you're working, perform better when they're compensated.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, oh, when you're happy. Yes, which is which

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<v Speaker 5>is one of the reasons. Why do you think they

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<v Speaker 5>always go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always

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<v Speaker 5>paid the quarterback. You get your quarterback out the way,

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<v Speaker 5>so he had nothing to worry about. He's in the

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<v Speaker 5>right state of mind and you can focus on your

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<v Speaker 5>job at hand, no distractions and again not being able

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<v Speaker 5>to get your money after putting in all the work,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>He led. I mean, I mean he led the entire

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<v Speaker 2>league in sacks. He did that.

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<v Speaker 1>He had he I mean he had seventeen and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>He was I mean, he was in the running for

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<v Speaker 1>defensive Player of the Year. And he's probably thinking to himself,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell do I have to do to get

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<v Speaker 1>rewarded for my card work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this

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<v Speaker 3>happens all the time, for sure, Well, it happens all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. Yeah, it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's his turn, his turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his

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<v Speaker 1>first practice rep in the NFL. He also had some

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<v Speaker 1>words for the Bengals today in comparing his situation with trades.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Like some people say, we'll all agree trade will be right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but technically still one percent wrong from being on the contract.

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<v Speaker 4>So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,

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<v Speaker 4>so it should be a no brainer. And in trades case,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he led seventeen and a half Saxon for two years

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<v Speaker 4>bafter back if I was a gym or I was

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<v Speaker 4>the owner, take all my money.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess they don't offer it like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know they do not.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, listen, hey, it's easy to say take all my

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<v Speaker 5>money when you not the GM's somebody else money.

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<v Speaker 2>Money.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to say that, but listen, you learn quick.

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<v Speaker 5>You learn, you learn quick, and you learn fast. Rookie

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<v Speaker 5>will understand that this is a business and it's running

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<v Speaker 5>a little different. It's running a little different now he's

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<v Speaker 5>had seventeen and a half sex back to back seatings, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they're they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Hesitating, they're hesitant on paying them.

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<v Speaker 5>So in situations like this, this will tell you how

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<v Speaker 5>they really feel about you, because the player is depending

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<v Speaker 5>on who the player is and how much they value

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<v Speaker 5>you and what you bring.

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<v Speaker 2>To the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, they're not even playing when it's time to

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<v Speaker 3>get paid. I don't care who.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who, y'all's This is what Mike Florio

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<v Speaker 1>for Pro Football Focus right, this is football Talk PFT.

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<v Speaker 2>He said.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have decided to wedge a new clause into

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart's deal. The clause would turn a default in any

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<v Speaker 1>given year into a void of all remaining guaranteed and

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<v Speaker 1>prior Bengals contracts Avoyd wiped out only the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guarantees for the year in which the default occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuart refuses to be the guinea pig for the new term,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals refused to blink. As a result, Stuart

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<v Speaker 1>will be less prepared for training camp than he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been. So, in other words, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>they put a clause in there, Oh Joe, it says

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<v Speaker 1>if you do something wrong, the money you were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get in that year, right is wiped away. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they put the new clause in there and say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do something wrong, any guaranteed that you was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going too Oh no, hell no, I understand. To me, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the verbiage. But again I would have

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<v Speaker 3>it on a year to year basis.

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<v Speaker 5>If this year, if you mess up, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>there was contact, gentrimentsis of the team. Yes, that is

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<v Speaker 5>that serious where we need to recoup some of that

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<v Speaker 5>money back. That's guaranteed I see fit to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. Hell no, not over what we don't. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>don't make me curse. Don't make me curse because I

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<v Speaker 3>just got saved out the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I know they're trying to set a precedent. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure what president is not listen, outside of don't get

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<v Speaker 5>in any trouble period. I don't know if he has

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<v Speaker 5>a pass, if he has the past history of doing

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<v Speaker 5>things wrong, I don't know for them to actually want

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<v Speaker 5>to put that clause in his contract all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>out the blue set a precedent with this individual.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what his path looks like that even

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<v Speaker 3>I could think of, and why they want to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, and no, but it seems to be like

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving forward to everybody, Yes, default in any given year

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<v Speaker 1>into a void of all remas and guaranteed and prior

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals contracts a void wiped out only guaranteed for which

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<v Speaker 1>the year the default of courage. So if he did

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<v Speaker 1>something in twenty five, okay, we wipe out the guarantees

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight is protected.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're saying, if you default in twenty five, twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, twenty eight, get wiped away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell no, mo joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole purpose of guaranteed, get to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get to guarantee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I have a question.

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<v Speaker 5>Are there any other NFL teams that practice the same

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<v Speaker 5>clause in their contracts?

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<v Speaker 1>But we would we would know that, Ah, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some some you have a contract. Let's just say for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of argument, you in the NFL you're a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver or it's like coaches like a college like

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL coach. I give you you say, I got

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<v Speaker 1>three year left on my deal at twelve million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year, Yes, sir, I get a new job whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So now in offsets, so what that happens offset language.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I get a job from another team, however

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<v Speaker 1>much that team paid, that I have to pay the

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<v Speaker 1>remaining So if I get a deal for nine million

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<v Speaker 1>over there, I only have to pay three million over

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<v Speaker 1>here where I left got left at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Some people right there, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no offset language.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives all eighty

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<v Speaker 1>or that remaining money.

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<v Speaker 3>It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes they try to put offset language where you

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<v Speaker 1>can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>get released and you go sign with another team, ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing to do with you. I want the money

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<v Speaker 1>that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the money

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<v Speaker 1>they gonna give me. Don't you worry about what I got.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gonna make sure. Ay, just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you keep the checks coming. I will be hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a got the wide number, go and put

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<v Speaker 1>it in there during deposit.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what and some teams do. Some teams will

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<v Speaker 2>have offset language.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get another job, even in TV, you get

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<v Speaker 1>released by one network, you go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>They just pay the difference, so you got as whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you get if you get say five million

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<v Speaker 1>over here, you only get two and a half over there.

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<v Speaker 2>You gonna get two and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, hey, hey man, this is this is as much

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<v Speaker 5>as people love the beautiful game, they I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>they understand the nasty business side of it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they don't nasty business side of it. It can

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<v Speaker 3>get other, It can get very ugly.

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<v Speaker 5>And the fact there's a reason why when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to contracts and negotiations or a situation like this is

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<v Speaker 5>a reason why the agents going there are not the players,

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<v Speaker 5>because if the players go in those rooms and you

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 5>hear how owners really feel about you and what they

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 5>really want to do, and the language they want to

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<v Speaker 5>put in the fire, the fine print language that they

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:02.400
<v Speaker 5>want to put in contracts to protect themselves else from

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<v Speaker 5>having to pay you long term if you mess up there.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh listen, it was it was some stuff I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to bring up the past. But it was some

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 5>stuff in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 5>that wasn't suitable.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was.

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, it wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 5>So if they were, if they if they were doing

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<v Speaker 5>it to Tea and Chase, you know who the meat

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 5>potatoes that offense. Outside of Joe, I know they're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>do it to trade and they definitely gonna do it

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<v Speaker 5>to the rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business. It

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<v Speaker 3>never personally I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you don't gonna do a I'm gonna call it

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got this language in

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>your contract. They do it all the time. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>do it all the time. Nah, Bro, you're not finning.

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not finna be no guinea pig. You're not finna

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>sit no president with me. And then everybody that comes

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>after me they looking at me crazy because I allowed

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it to happen because I have the highest raft pick

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<v Speaker 1>the year that they started this foolishness, and I I

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<v Speaker 1>agree to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how can this go? Though?

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<v Speaker 5>What if he refuses to play? What if he refuses

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<v Speaker 5>to sign the contract unless they remove that language.

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that's it they You either have to remove the

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>language or he has to say that I'm not playing.

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<v Speaker 3>That can get ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I hope he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he got some good nil money. He hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>spent too much. He hadn't promised his mom or dad

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<v Speaker 1>or whomever house yet, right, Damn.

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't like that for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't neither.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback to weigh it

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>on mentoring the next generation. In his case, he was

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's a good kid.

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>We got to talk a little bit. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>did a really I thought he did really well today.

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be with him every single day, every single meeting.

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Found my seat next to him today and the offensive meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not, it's sticks right next to Will Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna help him out as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay O, cho, you know, oh yo, you know what

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I like to Yojo. Let me tell you the true sory,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, I got middled in college with math. Ain't

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>none of that is stick. I told you once we

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>got past timetables, me and Math really didn't get along,

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>o Joe, Oh Joe, if I couldn't do this like

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.919
<v Speaker 1>this here, yeah, or right it down little scratch papers,

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Y's sick one ma and Math with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's only one pile. I know that's apple Pie

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 3>that does it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he can pie and then start talking about

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>if a train left at four thirty in the morning

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and train b leftid six o'clock in the afternoon, a

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<v Speaker 1>walk point with then.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, hold on, hold on.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 3>If Johnny, if Johnny had five bipples, he gave Amy three.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Adam brought back sixty.

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Man if I might pro who is that my face?

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Two trains. One leaves at four thirty am, the other

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>leaves at six pm at one time. But I don't

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 2>how fast are they going? I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I just see on Joe. I don't know why

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>they just could do Why they could do twelve times twelve,

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is how?

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>But they start doing all the other stuff that they.

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Go with me, So be a math me and math.

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>We were not good and uh now math my favorite thing.

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh sure yeah, hey whatel Hey that was funny boy.

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>But see when it comes to percentage, Okay, you got

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this much and you will get a per said, bro,

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>how much is that?

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>How much you want? How much you want? Man?

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that.

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro, hey, I got I got, I got

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty five dollars for you. Okay, you thirty five dollars?

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Brother? You asking an awful lot. Man, I ain't got

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>tired to be doing all that. You know, you do

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 2>this and you and you add point two four or

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>point four not man, I ain't got all that. I

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>got time for that.

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So no, so I get what they're Andy's saying, mentoring,

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because everybody processes information differently. Oh Joe, yeah, me,

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a visual learner. I need you to see

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you put it on the board. Do hey, Shannon, I

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>want you to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You're the issue on the board. And once I once

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I saw that's okay. I'm good. Now, I'm good. I'm

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>a visual learner. Don't explain nothing to me, show me.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, hey, but that

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>was funny, boy, at the end of the day, at

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the day, or at the middle of

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, Oh joe. How well does somebody process information?

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>How well do they retain information? And then can you

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>spit it out?

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>That's it?

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you split it out? Because sometimes some people can

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>read something and have no hurdent idea what the hell

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they read? Some people can skim over it and give

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you a great synopsis of what's what is actually saying.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody processes information different.

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>joining the AFC North.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a good opportunity to put him in

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the graveyard. Damn.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.719
<v Speaker 3>That's the type of answer you expect from a defense end.

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you that

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 5>you expect from one of, if not the best defens

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 5>in the n NF yea in the NFL. Listen, he

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 5>got a deal with Aaron Rodgers twice a year, and

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 5>he letting them know ahead of time.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 3>You already know what time. It is, I nice say

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 3>nice about you.

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, no, Actually, I'm trying to

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to add you.

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to add you to the resume.

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or somebody, but hey, you're

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the next best thing I'll take. I might not have

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, most definitely. But they had listen, shit, they asked

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the wrong They asked the wrong one.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Packer CEO and president Mark Murphy had some shame for

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Jarry Alexander when ask about the recent release. He's been

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a great player for us, obviously elite talent. Unfortunately, just

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>injured a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>We see that we've been used to play it without him.

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 5>Where I am hey, played fourteen games. Listen, injuries, it's

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 5>something you can't avoid. But one thing I know about

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 5>that young bull, when he's healthy, when he's on the

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 5>field and he's playing man the man in your face,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 5>he gonna get everything he got. Any One of the

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 5>best that he wanted the best at it, but it

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 5>doesn't get the credit he deserves it because he's been injured.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 5>I can only speak on what I've seen. When I

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 5>see him on the field. He gonna talk that trash

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 5>to YouTube and back it up the best he can.

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Him and Justine Jefferson matchups. Those matchups were classic he

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 5>wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 5>in every tide in tune used to line them together.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>He gonna go somewhere.

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't know where you're gonna go for those they understand,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 5>they need to understand what they're getting when he is

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 5>healthy and do whatever.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>They need to do.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>They get him on that field and keep him on it.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the toughest part about it, Joe, because being

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>available is a big part of how good you are.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, boy, he's a good worker. When I can

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>get him to come to work, that is what the

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>damn did right, right? Uh? And I look, he's injured.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he said he had a maniscus or something.

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 1>He had a shoulder injury.

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>out there and play with something wrong with you because

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you got a lower extremity, because that's how where am

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>dB and I can't raise my arm.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>How do I knock down the pass? How do I

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>intercept the past?

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Or if I got an injury, I got something with

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>my knee, my hips or something ankle. And guess what

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>only thing people in the stand seeing people at home see, man,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>y'all you're a game up a touchdown.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Man. Sorry, he don't feel off bad because he used

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to be good. He don't feel all bad on what

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>they see.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't see Monday to you know, and getting

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>treatment and all that stuff. You're not able to practice,

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you potentially have to shoot up, you have to take medication.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't see any of that.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>All they see is Alexander on the back of that

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>pack of jersey and whether or not he's making plays

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>or not.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>It's really that simple. Yeah did you or didn't you?

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn that's unfortunate, man, And I guess they were trying

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to like come to a number that was amenable to

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>both parties, excuse me, and they could just never get there.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he thought it was too low. They thought it

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 2>was too high.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we've seen teams and

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of money they won't eat, because we've seen them

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>eat Aaron Rodgers contract Green Bay. We've seen the Broncos

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a denomination

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>forty fifty sixty million dollars. They don't care. And there's

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a good chance the falcon the probably have to eat

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Cousins summer Cousin's contract.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, So you don't you don't think obviously he's not

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna move.

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Huh No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever who

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have take him to pay us. Some stand at each

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>other of that that contract and they're like, nah, we

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>just wait for you to release him, but we can

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>get it for minimum.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, damn, I mean to pay fifty million dollars

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 5>for a backup? Hey, that's good money, up boy, Can

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 5>you imagine? Yeah, back up fifty million. I just I

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 5>remember when this deal came down and you and I

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 5>was talking about it, said, oh.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Cho, we sure was yeah, listen, I sure thought he

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 3>was gonna get at least two years in. I ain't

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>know he even, I didn't know. I didn't know it

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 3>would be that soon.

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>but oho, what if he only gets one and you

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell Wilson situation. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's a and that's exactly what happened.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>protections and get the guaranteed money.

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah, I'm not waiving that,

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 2>not get it.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>But cousin man, and I think they still got another

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>ten million next year they away, cause he got one

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten I think he got he got one

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred tiying a four year, one hundred and eighty million

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>dollar deal, but one hundred and ten of it was

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed fifty SI bonus and then six year old the

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>next two years.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Hey, one thing by brother cousins man.

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Listen, God he he God has been good to him

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 5>great and his timing, his timing is been impeccable every time,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 5>and he better on himself. One thing about it, when

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 5>you bet on yourself, He's come out on top every

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 5>single time.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So how much you got eighty four. He got eighty

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>four to siven one hundred and eighty four million, not no,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>eighty four million four that's twenty one.

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Million dollars a year. Uh huh. No, I was talking

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>about We talked about cousins ad. I was like, I was,

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, tweety do Now you're way more than that. Yeah.

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got sided bonus

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>because I think he had one hundred and ten It

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.959
<v Speaker 1>I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty guaranteed.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Whoa hey, could you imagine?

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Could a chap?

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Could you imagine?

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 5>go to sleep at the night and you wake up

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 5>in the morning it's and it's fifty million in your

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 5>bank account.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But Uncle Samon took half of it.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>O Jo he got he got ninety total.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Fully, if you think about o Jo, he's never had

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a contract since he became to start in Washington that

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't guaranteed because remember he played on he played on

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the franchise tag. One year he played on the franchise tag.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal. And then

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he came back. He got another fully guaranteed deal and

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>now what to call him? Just gave him one hundred

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>million fully guaranteed. Hey, so he got fifty this year,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>he got fifty. Last year, he got forty. This year,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that's ninety. He got another t in next year.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, that's God, child man, God don't play by

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 3>this sharing.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>He don't.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>But when we come to jayre for the Mark Murphy

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to say what he said, you think that's pharophyle.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what, what did you tell me? What did

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I tell you?

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I want owners?

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>You say you won't? You want the truth? More owners

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>need to start speaking like this.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 5>They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 5>to see that the only T that all the TA

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 5>to have oldership, right, Yeah, I mean, listen, tell us

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 5>how you really feel right now? The Bengals are in

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 5>this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 5>no one over there that would do that, But tell

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 5>us why you really don't.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Want to pay him? You know it would be it

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 3>would be it would be a breath of fresh air

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>if we can get owner to speak out why them

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>really don't want to do things similar what Mike Murphy,

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Mark Murphy, did.

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 5>You know what?

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 3>We like him, we just don't feel we want to

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>invest that much money into him.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>We don't think he's Okay, you got you got seventeen

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 5>and a half sacks two years in a row.

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 3>But we don't think he can do it for another year.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, Just come out and say it.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 5>We don't see him as a Michael Parsons or, we

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 5>don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 5>tier or two DEFENSI come out and say it, because

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 5>if it was anybody else, tell if it was Miles Garrett,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh you're gonna get your money.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of like I think I think who

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>was it?

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:36:59.800 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Ricky guy wanted the one of a big contract. He said,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>what you hit last year?

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 4>Son?

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>He said, out hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>five RBIs. He said, what place did we finish in

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the division? He said, we finished last. He said we

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>can finish that without you, So I guarantee you Cincinnati's

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>having this conversation. Where do we finish with them defense

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>with seventy When you got those seventeen half sacks, you

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>were in defensive Player of the year running. Where did

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we be finished? Where did we finish defensively? Okay, we

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>can finish that without you.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that that's the that's how they guarantee.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 2>They're having those conversations, you and I thinking, oh, Joe,

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 2>he should be a no brainer. The guy got.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen a half sacks. He did it one year. He

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it just one year, he did it two years. Yeah,

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So you're like, okay, fine, cool, But a lot of

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>times what the mistakes? And sometimes you know you better

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to wait. If you get team you saved yourself probably

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars if you signed him last year. If

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you go ahead and give see now, if you gave

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a trade twenty eight million last year, get jump on

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that with both feet.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Now you sees where the market is going to market

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is not in the in the high twenties, low thirties,

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the markets in the forties.

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 5>just said the way you've just explained it about the

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 5>timing of starting to pay the players, And that's a

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 5>difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy.

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Timing and when they decide to play payers has always

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 3>been impeccable.

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 2>You get them.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Before it's too high.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the Patriots.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they get him at the right time where it

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 5>And it's almost to a point where it's team friendly

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 5>in a sense because you can continue to build around them.

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yep. And man, I wish man, I wish more teams

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 2>did that.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Huh, Yeah, I don't give himself up.

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Shit.

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin is

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>frustrated with the lack of progress on a long term deal. Well,

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>new reports say that scary Terry is not attending Commander's

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>many camps. All these camps, now, O Joe, are mandatory.

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory, ojo. How

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>with the situation ended, don't get that money, don't get

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>his money. You know you gotta tell you how you're

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get his money. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, I'm

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 2>How you gonna get it? Shoot? Jayde Dan from go

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:38.240
<v Speaker 2>up There? Hello, who is it in? Jayden?

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 5>I need my number one quarterback, I need my captain.

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 5>but I know what I need on my end. I

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 5>need scary terry to get that money. So I had

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 5>that that that's safety net. So I had that individual

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 5>to throw to the same one. Pull up the film

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 5>from last year. I don't understand what.

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>The problem is. I don't know what we mulling around for.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Hit him his money. I still got two years before

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm up, so we're gonna be all right.

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm going but yeah, this year, next year, after

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>next year, I'm gonna come see you too. And if

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I got him, that increases my value too, because I

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>know I'm gonna put up big numbers and I see

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>where it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>sixty two. Damn, I'm trying to get hold on. I

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>tried to get Josh. I'm trying to get Josh Allen,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>number sixty two. Josh Allen would have up sign two years.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm two years after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the market going.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, how.

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full of guaranteed.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what you ain't got to give me,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you ain't got to give me for three hundred, make

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it all guaranteed, three hundred.

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen got three thirty. How much is full of guaranteed?

0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Two fifty? He got a quarter billy, he got two

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me so six years,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>three thirty. I don't really care nothing about that. Tell

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>me how much if it floods, if it's snow, if

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a tornado or range, I don't care. Tell me

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.439
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna beat, what I'm gonna get. So guess

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>what by that time on Joe two seventy five, that

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the going rate two seventy five.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey, so see de Stroud gonna be in that in

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 3>that Ballpaul to then you.

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Strive up there after this sheet.

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely yes, and you better hold Patrick Mahome don't do

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>say you know what, I'm tired all these.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Jokers make it more than me. Give me my true value.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't do that.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 4>It.

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He's made it abundantly clear.

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.879
<v Speaker 1>He like he's doing great with money. They've done great

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>by him, and he's like, look, I'm just trying to

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>keep this team together as long as I possibly can

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>keep his money, good players around me all our time.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm Brady as I possibly can. Hey, and plus the

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>money that I make off the.

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 5>Field can sustain my lifestyle, and it makes up for

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 5>what he's not gonna make in contracts as opposed that

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 5>other quarterbacks has taking a huge lum sum.

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the thing is, oh Jo, when you

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>look at it, my homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years,

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers at four

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eight million, I think, and then Matthew Staffords

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>at three ninety one. Tom Brady way way on that.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't feel sorry for me.

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Made really good money. But Tom, it became painfully became

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>obvious to everybody.

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>The most important thing was rings.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't money because Tom realized as a quarterback he

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be able to make money. Now he's making

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty five million or thirty seven million a year for

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 1>ten years, so he good so he said, Now, now, look,

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I give y'all some of the chase, cause y'all can

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>pass me monetarily.

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to see, dude that's gonna catch me with

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>these rings? Go get it? Who'll get seven? Who will

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 2>get six?

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>While we're talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've already shot under par

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the clubhouse.

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Come catch it. Damn so God, damn Terears Like, Look, bro,

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I have been to the Pro Bowls out of out

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 2>of thousand yard seasons. I don't really know what else

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.479
<v Speaker 2>y'all want me to do. I don't know. I don't

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 2>know what else I need to do to show you

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 2>that I'm worth whatever I say I am.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 5>And his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 5>It's just about being patient in the timing of when

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 5>it gets done.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Miss Minnie.

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Camp.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 5>To make sure you're working out before the Seaton Star,

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 5>maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss nother

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.439
<v Speaker 5>training camp. You don't know, now, you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 5>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in

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<v Speaker 5>a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had

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<v Speaker 5>a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you

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<v Speaker 5>got things off to a great start. Don't don't f

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<v Speaker 5>it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.

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<v Speaker 5>You had a great season in NFC Championship last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward

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<v Speaker 5>and changing that culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggae

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Reggae Wayning, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>a possible interim head coach if Shane Stikeen struggles to

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<v Speaker 1>start the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yoe, I I like it. You don't like it? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing you know they're under you know, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>ursa rest is soul. Mister passed away a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She

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<v Speaker 1>makes the decision because even if it's a family thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL wants that be one boys. They want one

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<v Speaker 1>person to be able to talk. And so she if

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<v Speaker 1>she's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put it in a situation where okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a this and it's going to go accordingly. But

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be very, very interesting because it's one thing like damn,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're

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<v Speaker 1>running a billion dollar corporation, a multi billion dollar corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something entirely different. When you got a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>situation in your first year, that's not something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been on the job for five six years old,

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<v Speaker 1>show you you want to kind of understand it, But

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<v Speaker 1>your first year you got to make that decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, they've been around the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Though they've been around the game long enough they be

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<v Speaker 5>certain decisions that are going to be made that can

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<v Speaker 5>be you know, somewhat altering business decision and business decisions,

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<v Speaker 5>and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure who made the call or who made the decision

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<v Speaker 5>when Jeff Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday got the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Mercy.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Mercy.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, he loves his players. He's really closed it players.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean yeah, so, I mean, I think I think

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<v Speaker 5>it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, He

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<v Speaker 5>understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,

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<v Speaker 5>but what that organization needs.

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<v Speaker 3>To get any back to their winning ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but here's the thing, Oh, Joe, you have to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff's Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just even though they're around, they don't have the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Type of relationships. They haven't developed that. And it's different

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<v Speaker 1>male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe. So

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<v Speaker 1>going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and drinking

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<v Speaker 1>with with with Saturday and some of the guys is

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<v Speaker 1>one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>that same dynamic as their father had.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what you know. I don't wish I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want Shane Stikeen. I don't want him the man

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<v Speaker 1>to lose his job. But I mean, this is a

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>situation they're just saying. They're just throwing stuff up, like

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<v Speaker 1>what if they eat struggles. Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Shane is gonna be okay. Him losing your job is

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<v Speaker 1>all predicated on how the quarterback play is. Yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the quarterback players. That's all it comes down.

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<v Speaker 5>To that's the Madam want to call it the elephant

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<v Speaker 5>in the room, but that's the goddamn elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 5>How well is a quarterback player gonna play? Because if

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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback player is bad, he's gonna get you fired.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>get the coach fired, and them cut self cut.

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 2>That was rich rich used to tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son, you

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<v Speaker 1>play just well enough to get me cut and you fired.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be a tough I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Houston is gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they won the division last year. I think they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit better. We're gonna be very interesting

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he got to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>He got Bryan Thomas Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>Traves. Yeah, I'm excited. Hey that hey is jackson Jacksonville. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>what what that's best? Stadium gonna be rocking, boy, that

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<v Speaker 3>stadium gonna be rocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>The volume