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Speaker 1: There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Burrow says he wants the
Speaker 1: team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says
Speaker 1: the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to what Joe had to.
Speaker 3: Say tomorrow and Ti having a great de deals.
Speaker 2: It's Trey here, his deal not done.
Speaker 3: Is that a distraction?
Speaker 2: Of course? Of course last year we had two, this
Speaker 2: year we have one, so we do have less to
Speaker 2: have none.
Speaker 3: But you know, that's a life in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: We're all supporting Tray and would love for him to
Speaker 3: be back.
Speaker 5: Mm hm Oh Joe, yes, sir, to take well, listen, listen.
Speaker 5: I love Joe. Joe also has to understand this is business.
Speaker 5: It's the business, and the Browns have one way of
Speaker 5: doing things. They've done things one way. And despite what
Speaker 5: he may say, despite his concerns about wanting Tree to
Speaker 5: be paid or him or being a distraction with him
Speaker 5: not getting paid. This is the way they conduct business.
Speaker 5: All teams conduct business in the same manner. They're not
Speaker 5: going to be swayed or forced or bullied into paying the.
Speaker 3: Individual based on how we as.
Speaker 5: Players or that the former or fans see fit.
Speaker 3: They're going to do things their way.
Speaker 5: They paid, they paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase,
Speaker 5: they played, they paid t Higgins.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't have the numbers in front of me. I
Speaker 5: don't know how much is left and in caloriees salary
Speaker 5: cap space.
Speaker 2: But not enough to pay Trade what he wants.
Speaker 3: Actually not enough to pay him what he wants. But
Speaker 3: I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.
Speaker 3: But from what I've heard that there are no talks
Speaker 3: going on at all.
Speaker 5: So obviously trade Trade is standing in his ground and
Speaker 5: he's not in a position despite being the sack leader
Speaker 5: last year and the sack leader before that the year
Speaker 5: before that, Like he was a sack leader, but what
Speaker 5: was our defense rank?
Speaker 3: Can someone look that can't ask with that up right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, he just was really quick curious, well, without
Speaker 1: Trade you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,
Speaker 1: so you had trade for you at the bottom at
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they look at all that they look at Listen,
Speaker 5: I wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get paid for based on what he's done,
Speaker 3: you know, to date.
Speaker 5: But they look at it completely different than the way
Speaker 5: we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,
Speaker 5: I love my bangals and I love I would love
Speaker 5: for trade to get paid. But uh, it's a tough
Speaker 5: spot that that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,
Speaker 5: I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen, Uh,
Speaker 5: at the least opportune time, when we least expected.
Speaker 1: I look at it like this O Joe, considering he's
Speaker 1: the best defensive player, and when you look at that
Speaker 1: defensive line, who else. Most teams have two guys, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, you have Micah and then you have another guy.
Speaker 1: Or you look at let's just say, for the sake
Speaker 1: of Mark, you look at the Eagles, they have multiple guys.
Speaker 1: You look at Kansas City, they have h Jones and
Speaker 1: have Coloptus. You know, they have multiple guys most teams,
Speaker 1: although they're not on the same level, but they have.
Speaker 1: You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,
Speaker 1: so most guys have somebody to play off of.
Speaker 2: It's him. He'll let the league in sacks. But really
Speaker 2: no one else beside it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And brother Sam Hubbert just retired, yes most of yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was hurting.
Speaker 5: Also, when I think about it, I look at the
Speaker 5: AFC North right, Yeah, standpoint and needing defensive players. It's
Speaker 5: bad enough. We're already bad on defense. Let's not make
Speaker 5: it worse.
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I mean that, my goodness.
Speaker 5: Like, we we need trading in the in the dearest
Speaker 5: dearest way possible to try to do what we can defensively,
Speaker 5: so we can we can. We can start a little
Speaker 5: better this season. You know, I know we always talk
Speaker 5: about the offense.
Speaker 3: You know, they always start slowers out out the gate,
Speaker 3: you know, being zero and to or one in one
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: You gotta stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta get their problem.
Speaker 1: Okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They
Speaker 1: have one bad, too bad possession. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you fourteen points down.
Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta lead.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say, for the sake of army, you
Speaker 1: have a lead. That we saw this against Baltimore they
Speaker 1: have too bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the lead lead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what how far away are we from from
Speaker 3: having a decent defense? Just curious from your listen, you
Speaker 3: know this.
Speaker 5: Is this is and y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all
Speaker 5: released Pratt. Yeah, so wall hold on Pratt with prap
Speaker 5: prap with the middle back. Where was the mic linebacker? Yeah,
Speaker 5: he led your team and tackles, Yeah he did so.
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson plays.
Speaker 2: They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in the second round
Speaker 2: out of South Caroline.
Speaker 5: I was reading yesterday the night they must he must go,
Speaker 5: being really high on him. Yeah, we're gonna he's gonna
Speaker 5: plug and play then, huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: And remember Pratt was like, hey, he wanted a contract extension.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be you don't want to bump and pay, Like, noah, bro,
Speaker 1: we can't bump you and pay. I was reading now,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe somebody just throwing out
Speaker 1: numbers I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to get him to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's looking at listening to anything that
Speaker 1: doesn't start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,
Speaker 1: because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one
Speaker 1: guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy
Speaker 1: making thirty, and then y'all want me to come in
Speaker 1: at twenty eight.
Speaker 2: And he sees Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: He knows Michael is about to get something that starts
Speaker 1: with a four, and y'all want me to start with
Speaker 1: a two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see that.
Speaker 5: Not.
Speaker 2: Let's be fair.
Speaker 5: If he wants to get what he wants, he's not
Speaker 5: gonna be able to get it because everything you just
Speaker 5: ran off, we just pay one thirty and one making
Speaker 5: fifty five, then there's no room for you to make.
Speaker 3: Do you take do you take a discount? Do you
Speaker 3: take a discounting?
Speaker 2: Know?
Speaker 1: The question is better question does he miss the first
Speaker 1: eight games and then come back to last eight games
Speaker 1: to make sure he gets a credited season or does
Speaker 1: because that's what I would do, because if you don't
Speaker 1: come back, they still have your rights, So I would
Speaker 1: you know it? That depends on how serious he is
Speaker 1: about his money.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's serious, He's serious.
Speaker 5: And this, this is this is the thing that you
Speaker 5: can do when they know you love the game, when
Speaker 5: they know you love the game, and they know you
Speaker 5: can't stay away.
Speaker 3: From the game.
Speaker 5: They always wants to be team for team, that team
Speaker 5: oriented and be the but when it comes time to play,
Speaker 5: this is what this is what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now just talk about the Bengals in general. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about in general.
Speaker 5: They will use your love for the game against you
Speaker 5: because the ben inside of things will sneak up on
Speaker 5: you and bite your knaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might
Speaker 1: be the only guy that I can remember that missed
Speaker 1: the whole season and then he ended up turning it
Speaker 1: around and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina.
Speaker 1: I think it's with Washington and he ended up going
Speaker 1: to Carolina. It might be vice versa, but that's what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think the thing is to say what
Speaker 1: I would do. It's easy to say what because you're
Speaker 1: not in that situation.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 1: I ain't missing no time. I understood that that was time,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be able to get back. And like
Speaker 1: you said, oh Joe, I think the thing is, they
Speaker 1: know the guys that really everybody don't love the game.
Speaker 2: Like we do. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're gonna hard time us. Well this is
Speaker 1: all we can knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,
Speaker 1: but we ain't missing no half of those seasons low
Speaker 1: times either.
Speaker 2: And let's talk. We love it too much, listen.
Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,
Speaker 5: but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.
Speaker 5: I think where they came to me early twice, right
Speaker 5: in the early where I didn't have to deal with
Speaker 5: that type of situation. It is to me, it's almost
Speaker 5: it's almost a slap in the face a little bit.
Speaker 5: And you think about it, Yeah, almost a slapping the face.
Speaker 5: And we take it personally as players, and I know
Speaker 5: they do when situation like this arise. When you understand
Speaker 5: what your value is, you understand what the market is,
Speaker 5: and then you have a team that's hesitating in giving you.
Speaker 3: Said market value. Make it that hard.
Speaker 2: Listen. One thing about it.
Speaker 5: I don't care how many how many players you got
Speaker 5: got paid. There's always a way to make it happen
Speaker 5: depending on who the players. You do understand that, right, yes,
Speaker 5: But I don't get from the Bengals.
Speaker 2: O't Yoe.
Speaker 1: If you had this problem last year and you didn't
Speaker 1: resolve it and during the season or after the season,
Speaker 1: what makes you thought the the problem is going to
Speaker 1: go away. It's like if you have a disease and
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, just because you don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: you better go get it. You better treat it because
Speaker 1: talking about it, but because not talking about a problem,
Speaker 1: like it's like two people argue, know Joe, and you
Speaker 1: go to bed. That issue is not gonna be resolved
Speaker 1: in the morning because you didn't talk about it that night.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you're gonna give people an
Speaker 1: opportunity to build up. They're like this more for playing
Speaker 1: with me. They couldn't address me. They know, so you
Speaker 1: laid over the steaming. She led over their steaming. You know,
Speaker 1: you get out of bed in the morning, you stepping
Speaker 1: on lips because the lift poked out to the float.
Speaker 2: His lifts poked out to the float.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand how the Bengals thought this situation
Speaker 1: and he had another seventeen and a half sex season,
Speaker 1: and he led the NFL in sacks, and somehow you
Speaker 1: thought he would go beat Well, we got a good
Speaker 1: chance to go. You had a good chance to go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl last year or the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Guys are not you know.
Speaker 2: Teams always want you to think, oh, fake big picture.
Speaker 1: No, the big picture is me and my family. That's
Speaker 1: the big picture. I'll thinking about y'all because, oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: what they what they tell you? O Joe when they
Speaker 1: release players? You here, and I think we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about this a little later, y'all here, And Cody kIPS
Speaker 1: said what he's saying. They're always thinking about what isn't
Speaker 1: the best interest of the team. Okay, what is the
Speaker 1: best interest of the business? Okay, players are businesses. Yes,
Speaker 1: what isn't the best interest of Trey Henderson?
Speaker 2: Not playing?
Speaker 1: Isn't the best interest in Trey Henderson being all unest Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not telling the guy what he should or what
Speaker 1: he shouldn't do, but this is what.
Speaker 2: We do know.
Speaker 1: He take his ass out there on that field, and
Speaker 1: he gets anything that happens, Lord forbid, it does not, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: he ain't getting no pay day.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 5: I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is
Speaker 5: tough on in the tough spot. The Bengals organization is
Speaker 5: in a tough spot. Trey Henderson is in a tough spot.
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that
Speaker 5: are in an organization, those that are on the team,
Speaker 5: those that are at mini camp right now.
Speaker 3: I think for the fans it's a distraction and it's
Speaker 3: just like overwhelming and they're like, God, damn, here we
Speaker 3: go again. But again fans.
Speaker 5: As players, you have to be able to separate the
Speaker 5: personal side of being a football player.
Speaker 3: In the business side.
Speaker 5: I think if you can park, you can compartmentalize and
Speaker 5: be able to separate the two and understand that it
Speaker 5: is business first.
Speaker 3: It's not personal.
Speaker 5: It's nothing against you as a player, but this is
Speaker 5: the way they conduct themselves, not just with the Bengals,
Speaker 5: but with every team in general.
Speaker 3: I think you'll be all right.
Speaker 5: I want Tree to get his money though, you know,
Speaker 5: even if it's not with us, I would love to
Speaker 5: see him back with the Bengals, but I would also
Speaker 5: love to see him get what he deserves somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else, because I think the thing is, oh Joe. What
Speaker 1: happens is that Joe would like to talk about what
Speaker 1: a great deal practice they'll had, yes, sir, But the
Speaker 1: media is asking him Trade's contract. They're asking m him
Speaker 1: about the rookies contract, who we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: in just a second. So he's like, bro, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, hey, T and I had a great comment,
Speaker 1: had a great work today. We got some great work
Speaker 1: to done today. We got better today. But you're asking
Speaker 1: me about a player that's not here. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you want me to say. Joe is being the
Speaker 1: leader that he is. Yeah, we love to have Trade
Speaker 1: and I think he's done enough to He's earned, not deserve,
Speaker 1: he's earned a raise and pay because guess what, let's
Speaker 1: just say, for the sake of argument, o Jo, instead
Speaker 1: of having seventeen the half sacks, he had five and
Speaker 1: a half sacks.
Speaker 2: Do you think they would keep him on the contract
Speaker 2: that he has now? Absolutely not? I answer it for
Speaker 2: you know they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: So now he outperforms the contract, you don't want to
Speaker 1: reward him, But if he underperformed, you will punish him.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's the way it is. And hopefully fans
Speaker 2: like see that and I understand.
Speaker 1: Look, I understand you weren't running a business, but the
Speaker 1: guys normally played best guy's team after being in you know,
Speaker 1: a business you're working, perform better when they're compensated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh, when you're happy. Yes, which is which
Speaker 5: is one of the reasons. Why do you think they
Speaker 5: always go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always
Speaker 5: paid the quarterback. You get your quarterback out the way,
Speaker 5: so he had nothing to worry about. He's in the
Speaker 5: right state of mind and you can focus on your
Speaker 5: job at hand, no distractions and again not being able
Speaker 5: to get your money after putting in all the work,
Speaker 5: you know, the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.
Speaker 2: He led. I mean, I mean he led the entire
Speaker 2: league in sacks. He did that.
Speaker 1: He had he I mean he had seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1: He was I mean, he was in the running for
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year. And he's probably thinking to himself,
Speaker 1: what the hell do I have to do to get
Speaker 1: rewarded for my card work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this
Speaker 3: happens all the time, for sure, Well, it happens all
Speaker 3: the time. Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 2: It's his turn, his turn.
Speaker 1: Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his
Speaker 1: first practice rep in the NFL. He also had some
Speaker 1: words for the Bengals today in comparing his situation with trades.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4: Like some people say, we'll all agree trade will be right, right,
Speaker 4: but technically still one percent wrong from being on the contract.
Speaker 4: So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,
Speaker 4: so it should be a no brainer. And in trades case,
Speaker 4: I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,
Speaker 4: he led seventeen and a half Saxon for two years
Speaker 4: bafter back if I was a gym or I was
Speaker 4: the owner, take all my money.
Speaker 2: But I guess they don't offer it like that, but
Speaker 2: you know they do not.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, hey, it's easy to say take all my
Speaker 5: money when you not the GM's somebody else money.
Speaker 2: Money.
Speaker 5: You need to say that, but listen, you learn quick.
Speaker 5: You learn, you learn quick, and you learn fast. Rookie
Speaker 5: will understand that this is a business and it's running
Speaker 5: a little different. It's running a little different now he's
Speaker 5: had seventeen and a half sex back to back seatings, right,
Speaker 5: and then they're they're.
Speaker 3: Hesitating, they're hesitant on paying them.
Speaker 5: So in situations like this, this will tell you how
Speaker 5: they really feel about you, because the player is depending
Speaker 5: on who the player is and how much they value
Speaker 5: you and what you bring.
Speaker 2: To the table.
Speaker 3: Oh man, they're not even playing when it's time to
Speaker 3: get paid. I don't care who.
Speaker 1: I don't care who, y'all's This is what Mike Florio
Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus right, this is football Talk PFT.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: The Bengals have decided to wedge a new clause into
Speaker 1: Stewart's deal. The clause would turn a default in any
Speaker 1: given year into a void of all remaining guaranteed and
Speaker 1: prior Bengals contracts Avoyd wiped out only the.
Speaker 2: Guarantees for the year in which the default occurred.
Speaker 1: Stuart refuses to be the guinea pig for the new term,
Speaker 1: and the Bengals refused to blink. As a result, Stuart
Speaker 1: will be less prepared for training camp than he would
Speaker 1: have been. So, in other words, a lot of times
Speaker 1: they put a clause in there, Oh Joe, it says
Speaker 1: if you do something wrong, the money you were supposed
Speaker 1: to get in that year, right is wiped away. Now
Speaker 1: they put the new clause in there and say, if
Speaker 1: you do something wrong, any guaranteed that you was supposed
Speaker 1: to get in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight.
Speaker 2: That's going too Oh no, hell no, I understand. To me, honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like the verbiage. But again I would have
Speaker 3: it on a year to year basis.
Speaker 5: If this year, if you mess up, you know, and
Speaker 5: there was contact, gentrimentsis of the team. Yes, that is
Speaker 5: that serious where we need to recoup some of that
Speaker 5: money back. That's guaranteed I see fit to do so.
Speaker 2: Yes, that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Hell no, not over what we don't. Man,
Speaker 3: don't make me curse. Don't make me curse because I
Speaker 3: just got saved out the day.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 5: I know they're trying to set a precedent. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure what president is not listen, outside of don't get
Speaker 5: in any trouble period. I don't know if he has
Speaker 5: a pass, if he has the past history of doing
Speaker 5: things wrong, I don't know for them to actually want
Speaker 5: to put that clause in his contract all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: out the blue set a precedent with this individual.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what his path looks like that even
Speaker 3: I could think of, and why they want to do something.
Speaker 2: Like that, and no, but it seems to be like
Speaker 2: this is something that they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Moving forward to everybody, Yes, default in any given year
Speaker 1: into a void of all remas and guaranteed and prior
Speaker 1: Bengals contracts a void wiped out only guaranteed for which
Speaker 1: the year the default of courage. So if he did
Speaker 1: something in twenty five, okay, we wipe out the guarantees
Speaker 1: in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight is protected.
Speaker 1: Now they're saying, if you default in twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight, get wiped away.
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, mo joke.
Speaker 1: That's the whole purpose of guaranteed, get to be able
Speaker 1: to get to guarantee.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I have a question.
Speaker 5: Are there any other NFL teams that practice the same
Speaker 5: clause in their contracts?
Speaker 1: But we would we would know that, Ah, well, there's
Speaker 1: some some you have a contract. Let's just say for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, you in the NFL you're a
Speaker 1: wide receiver or it's like coaches like a college like
Speaker 1: an NFL coach. I give you you say, I got
Speaker 1: three year left on my deal at twelve million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, Yes, sir, I get a new job whatever.
Speaker 1: So now in offsets, so what that happens offset language.
Speaker 1: So if I get a job from another team, however
Speaker 1: much that team paid, that I have to pay the
Speaker 1: remaining So if I get a deal for nine million
Speaker 1: over there, I only have to pay three million over
Speaker 1: here where I left got left at.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Some people right there, there
Speaker 2: is no offset language.
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives all eighty
Speaker 1: or that remaining money.
Speaker 3: It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 1: So sometimes they try to put offset language where you
Speaker 1: can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you
Speaker 1: get released and you go sign with another team, ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you. I want the money
Speaker 1: that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the money
Speaker 1: they gonna give me. Don't you worry about what I got.
Speaker 1: You just gonna make sure. Ay, just go ahead and
Speaker 1: make sure you keep the checks coming. I will be hey,
Speaker 1: you got a got the wide number, go and put
Speaker 1: it in there during deposit.
Speaker 2: So that's what and some teams do. Some teams will
Speaker 2: have offset language.
Speaker 1: If you get another job, even in TV, you get
Speaker 1: released by one network, you go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: They just pay the difference, so you got as whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be.
Speaker 1: So if you get if you get say five million
Speaker 1: over here, you only get two and a half over there.
Speaker 2: You gonna get two and a half.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey man, this is this is as much
Speaker 5: as people love the beautiful game, they I don't think
Speaker 5: they understand the nasty business side of it.
Speaker 3: No, they don't nasty business side of it. It can
Speaker 3: get other, It can get very ugly.
Speaker 5: And the fact there's a reason why when it comes
Speaker 5: to contracts and negotiations or a situation like this is
Speaker 5: a reason why the agents going there are not the players,
Speaker 5: because if the players go in those rooms and you
Speaker 5: hear how owners really feel about you and what they
Speaker 5: really want to do, and the language they want to
Speaker 5: put in the fire, the fine print language that they
Speaker 5: want to put in contracts to protect themselves else from
Speaker 5: having to pay you long term if you mess up there.
Speaker 5: Oh listen, it was it was some stuff I don't
Speaker 5: want to bring up the past. But it was some
Speaker 5: stuff in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was
Speaker 5: that wasn't suitable.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't right.
Speaker 5: So if they were, if they if they were doing
Speaker 5: it to Tea and Chase, you know who the meat
Speaker 5: potatoes that offense. Outside of Joe, I know they're gonna
Speaker 5: do it to trade and they definitely gonna do it
Speaker 5: to the rookie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business. It
Speaker 3: never personally I was like.
Speaker 1: Hey, you don't gonna do a I'm gonna call it
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got this language in
Speaker 1: your contract. They do it all the time. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: do it all the time. Nah, Bro, you're not finning.
Speaker 1: I'm not finna be no guinea pig. You're not finna
Speaker 1: sit no president with me. And then everybody that comes
Speaker 1: after me they looking at me crazy because I allowed
Speaker 1: it to happen because I have the highest raft pick
Speaker 1: the year that they started this foolishness, and I I
Speaker 1: agree to it.
Speaker 2: So how can this go? Though?
Speaker 5: What if he refuses to play? What if he refuses
Speaker 5: to sign the contract unless they remove that language.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that's it they You either have to remove the
Speaker 1: language or he has to say that I'm not playing.
Speaker 3: That can get ugly.
Speaker 2: Uh. I hope he did.
Speaker 1: I hope he got some good nil money. He hadn't
Speaker 1: spent too much. He hadn't promised his mom or dad
Speaker 1: or whomever house yet, right, Damn.
Speaker 3: I don't like that for him.
Speaker 2: I don't neither.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback to weigh it
Speaker 1: on mentoring the next generation. In his case, he was
Speaker 1: asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's a good kid.
Speaker 1: We got to talk a little bit. I thought he
Speaker 1: did a really I thought he did really well today.
Speaker 1: He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.
Speaker 2: Really well.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with him every single day, every single meeting.
Speaker 1: Found my seat next to him today and the offensive meeting,
Speaker 1: whether or not, it's sticks right next to Will Howard.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna help him out as much as I can.
Speaker 1: Okay O, cho, you know, oh yo, you know what
Speaker 1: I like to Yojo. Let me tell you the true sory,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I got middled in college with math. Ain't
Speaker 1: none of that is stick. I told you once we
Speaker 1: got past timetables, me and Math really didn't get along,
Speaker 1: o Joe, Oh Joe, if I couldn't do this like
Speaker 1: this here, yeah, or right it down little scratch papers,
Speaker 1: Y's sick one ma and Math with it.
Speaker 2: Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only one pile. I know that's apple Pie
Speaker 3: that does it.
Speaker 1: But if he can pie and then start talking about
Speaker 1: if a train left at four thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: and train b leftid six o'clock in the afternoon, a
Speaker 1: walk point with then.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3: If Johnny, if Johnny had five bipples, he gave Amy three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Adam brought back sixty.
Speaker 3: Man if I might pro who is that my face?
Speaker 2: Two trains. One leaves at four thirty am, the other
Speaker 2: leaves at six pm at one time. But I don't
Speaker 2: how fast are they going? I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Man, I just see on Joe. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they just could do Why they could do twelve times twelve,
Speaker 1: why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is how?
Speaker 1: But they start doing all the other stuff that they.
Speaker 2: Go with me, So be a math me and math.
Speaker 2: We were not good and uh now math my favorite thing.
Speaker 3: Oh sure yeah, hey whatel Hey that was funny boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But see when it comes to percentage, Okay, you got
Speaker 1: this much and you will get a per said, bro,
Speaker 1: how much is that?
Speaker 2: How much you want? How much you want? Man?
Speaker 1: You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because
Speaker 1: we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and
Speaker 1: I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, hey, I got I got, I got
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars for you. Okay, you thirty five dollars?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 2: Brother? You asking an awful lot. Man, I ain't got
Speaker 2: tired to be doing all that. You know, you do
Speaker 2: this and you and you add point two four or
Speaker 2: point four not man, I ain't got all that. I
Speaker 2: got time for that.
Speaker 1: So no, so I get what they're Andy's saying, mentoring,
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody processes information differently. Oh Joe, yeah, me,
Speaker 1: I was a visual learner. I need you to see
Speaker 1: you put it on the board. Do hey, Shannon, I
Speaker 1: want you to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: You're the issue on the board. And once I once
Speaker 1: I saw that's okay. I'm good. Now, I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: a visual learner. Don't explain nothing to me, show me.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, hey, but that
Speaker 1: was funny, boy, at the end of the day, at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the day, or at the middle of
Speaker 1: the day, Oh joe. How well does somebody process information?
Speaker 1: How well do they retain information? And then can you
Speaker 1: spit it out?
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 1: Can you split it out? Because sometimes some people can
Speaker 1: read something and have no hurdent idea what the hell
Speaker 1: they read? Some people can skim over it and give
Speaker 1: you a great synopsis of what's what is actually saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody processes information different.
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: joining the AFC North.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good opportunity to put him in
Speaker 2: the graveyard. Damn.
Speaker 3: That's the type of answer you expect from a defense end.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you that
Speaker 5: you expect from one of, if not the best defens
Speaker 5: in the n NF yea in the NFL. Listen, he
Speaker 5: got a deal with Aaron Rodgers twice a year, and
Speaker 5: he letting them know ahead of time.
Speaker 3: You already know what time. It is, I nice say
Speaker 3: nice about you.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, Actually, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: I'm trying to add you.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to add you to the resume.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or somebody, but hey, you're
Speaker 1: the next best thing I'll take. I might not have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. But they had listen, shit, they asked
Speaker 3: the wrong They asked the wrong one.
Speaker 1: Packer CEO and president Mark Murphy had some shame for
Speaker 1: Jarry Alexander when ask about the recent release. He's been
Speaker 1: a great player for us, obviously elite talent. Unfortunately, just
Speaker 1: injured a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.
Speaker 1: We see that we've been used to play it without him.
Speaker 1: Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.
Speaker 5: Where I am hey, played fourteen games. Listen, injuries, it's
Speaker 5: something you can't avoid. But one thing I know about
Speaker 5: that young bull, when he's healthy, when he's on the
Speaker 5: field and he's playing man the man in your face,
Speaker 5: he gonna get everything he got. Any One of the
Speaker 5: best that he wanted the best at it, but it
Speaker 5: doesn't get the credit he deserves it because he's been injured.
Speaker 5: I can only speak on what I've seen. When I
Speaker 5: see him on the field. He gonna talk that trash
Speaker 5: to YouTube and back it up the best he can.
Speaker 5: Him and Justine Jefferson matchups. Those matchups were classic he
Speaker 5: wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning
Speaker 5: in every tide in tune used to line them together.
Speaker 2: He gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 5: I don't know where you're gonna go for those they understand,
Speaker 5: they need to understand what they're getting when he is
Speaker 5: healthy and do whatever.
Speaker 2: They need to do.
Speaker 3: They get him on that field and keep him on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the toughest part about it, Joe, because being
Speaker 1: available is a big part of how good you are.
Speaker 1: You know, boy, he's a good worker. When I can
Speaker 1: get him to come to work, that is what the
Speaker 1: damn did right, right? Uh? And I look, he's injured.
Speaker 1: I think he said he had a maniscus or something.
Speaker 1: He had a shoulder injury.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go
Speaker 1: out there and play with something wrong with you because
Speaker 1: you got a lower extremity, because that's how where am
Speaker 1: I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a
Speaker 1: dB and I can't raise my arm.
Speaker 2: How do I knock down the pass? How do I
Speaker 2: intercept the past?
Speaker 1: Or if I got an injury, I got something with
Speaker 1: my knee, my hips or something ankle. And guess what
Speaker 1: only thing people in the stand seeing people at home see, man,
Speaker 1: y'all you're a game up a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Man. Sorry, he don't feel off bad because he used
Speaker 2: to be good. He don't feel all bad on what
Speaker 2: they see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't see Monday to you know, and getting
Speaker 1: treatment and all that stuff. You're not able to practice,
Speaker 1: you potentially have to shoot up, you have to take medication.
Speaker 2: They don't see any of that.
Speaker 1: All they see is Alexander on the back of that
Speaker 1: pack of jersey and whether or not he's making plays
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: It's really that simple. Yeah did you or didn't you?
Speaker 1: Damn that's unfortunate, man, And I guess they were trying
Speaker 1: to like come to a number that was amenable to
Speaker 1: both parties, excuse me, and they could just never get there.
Speaker 2: Maybe he thought it was too low. They thought it
Speaker 2: was too high.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we've seen teams and
Speaker 1: amount of money they won't eat, because we've seen them
Speaker 1: eat Aaron Rodgers contract Green Bay. We've seen the Broncos
Speaker 1: eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a denomination
Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty million dollars. They don't care. And there's
Speaker 1: a good chance the falcon the probably have to eat
Speaker 1: Cousins summer Cousin's contract.
Speaker 3: Right, So you don't you don't think obviously he's not
Speaker 3: gonna move.
Speaker 1: Huh No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever who
Speaker 1: have take him to pay us. Some stand at each
Speaker 1: other of that that contract and they're like, nah, we
Speaker 1: just wait for you to release him, but we can
Speaker 1: get it for minimum.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, damn, I mean to pay fifty million dollars
Speaker 5: for a backup? Hey, that's good money, up boy, Can
Speaker 5: you imagine? Yeah, back up fifty million. I just I
Speaker 5: remember when this deal came down and you and I
Speaker 5: was talking about it, said, oh.
Speaker 3: Cho, we sure was yeah, listen, I sure thought he
Speaker 3: was gonna get at least two years in. I ain't
Speaker 3: know he even, I didn't know. I didn't know it
Speaker 3: would be that soon.
Speaker 1: I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,
Speaker 1: but oho, what if he only gets one and you
Speaker 1: got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell Wilson situation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a and that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some
Speaker 1: protections and get the guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah, I'm not waiving that,
Speaker 2: not get it.
Speaker 1: But cousin man, and I think they still got another
Speaker 1: ten million next year they away, cause he got one
Speaker 1: hundred and ten I think he got he got one
Speaker 1: hundred tiying a four year, one hundred and eighty million
Speaker 1: dollar deal, but one hundred and ten of it was
Speaker 1: guaranteed fifty SI bonus and then six year old the
Speaker 1: next two years.
Speaker 3: Hey, one thing by brother cousins man.
Speaker 5: Listen, God he he God has been good to him
Speaker 5: great and his timing, his timing is been impeccable every time,
Speaker 5: and he better on himself. One thing about it, when
Speaker 5: you bet on yourself, He's come out on top every
Speaker 5: single time.
Speaker 1: So how much you got eighty four. He got eighty
Speaker 1: four to siven one hundred and eighty four million, not no,
Speaker 1: eighty four million four that's twenty one.
Speaker 2: Million dollars a year. Uh huh. No, I was talking
Speaker 2: about We talked about cousins ad. I was like, I was,
Speaker 2: I was like, tweety do Now you're way more than that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,
Speaker 1: Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got sided bonus
Speaker 1: because I think he had one hundred and ten It
Speaker 1: was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then
Speaker 1: I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Whoa hey, could you imagine?
Speaker 2: Could a chap?
Speaker 3: Could you imagine?
Speaker 5: Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you
Speaker 5: go to sleep at the night and you wake up
Speaker 5: in the morning it's and it's fifty million in your
Speaker 5: bank account.
Speaker 3: But Uncle Samon took half of it.
Speaker 2: O Jo he got he got ninety total.
Speaker 1: Fully, if you think about o Jo, he's never had
Speaker 1: a contract since he became to start in Washington that
Speaker 1: wasn't guaranteed because remember he played on he played on
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. One year he played on the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal. And then
Speaker 1: he came back. He got another fully guaranteed deal and
Speaker 1: now what to call him? Just gave him one hundred
Speaker 1: million fully guaranteed. Hey, so he got fifty this year,
Speaker 1: he got fifty. Last year, he got forty. This year,
Speaker 1: that's ninety. He got another t in next year.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, that's God, child man, God don't play by
Speaker 3: this sharing.
Speaker 2: He don't.
Speaker 1: But when we come to jayre for the Mark Murphy
Speaker 1: to say what he said, you think that's pharophyle.
Speaker 2: You know what, what did you tell me? What did
Speaker 2: I tell you?
Speaker 3: I want owners?
Speaker 2: You say you won't? You want the truth? More owners
Speaker 2: need to start speaking like this.
Speaker 5: They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO
Speaker 5: to see that the only T that all the TA
Speaker 5: to have oldership, right, Yeah, I mean, listen, tell us
Speaker 5: how you really feel right now? The Bengals are in
Speaker 5: this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's
Speaker 5: no one over there that would do that, But tell
Speaker 5: us why you really don't.
Speaker 3: Want to pay him? You know it would be it
Speaker 3: would be it would be a breath of fresh air
Speaker 3: if we can get owner to speak out why them
Speaker 3: really don't want to do things similar what Mike Murphy,
Speaker 3: Mark Murphy, did.
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 3: We like him, we just don't feel we want to
Speaker 3: invest that much money into him.
Speaker 5: We don't think he's Okay, you got you got seventeen
Speaker 5: and a half sacks two years in a row.
Speaker 3: But we don't think he can do it for another year.
Speaker 2: Right, Just come out and say it.
Speaker 5: We don't see him as a Michael Parsons or, we
Speaker 5: don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a
Speaker 5: tier or two DEFENSI come out and say it, because
Speaker 5: if it was anybody else, tell if it was Miles Garrett,
Speaker 5: Oh you're gonna get your money.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like I think I think who
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Ricky guy wanted the one of a big contract. He said,
Speaker 1: what you hit last year?
Speaker 4: Son?
Speaker 1: He said, out hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty
Speaker 1: five RBIs. He said, what place did we finish in
Speaker 1: the division? He said, we finished last. He said we
Speaker 1: can finish that without you, So I guarantee you Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: having this conversation. Where do we finish with them defense
Speaker 1: with seventy When you got those seventeen half sacks, you
Speaker 1: were in defensive Player of the year running. Where did
Speaker 1: we be finished? Where did we finish defensively? Okay, we
Speaker 1: can finish that without you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that that's the that's how they guarantee.
Speaker 2: They're having those conversations, you and I thinking, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: he should be a no brainer. The guy got.
Speaker 1: Seventeen a half sacks. He did it one year. He
Speaker 1: didn't do it just one year, he did it two years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, fine, cool, But a lot of
Speaker 1: times what the mistakes? And sometimes you know you better
Speaker 1: to wait. If you get team you saved yourself probably
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars if you signed him last year. If
Speaker 1: you go ahead and give see now, if you gave
Speaker 1: a trade twenty eight million last year, get jump on
Speaker 1: that with both feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now you sees where the market is going to market
Speaker 1: is not in the in the high twenties, low thirties,
Speaker 1: the markets in the forties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you
Speaker 5: just said the way you've just explained it about the
Speaker 5: timing of starting to pay the players, And that's a
Speaker 5: difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Timing and when they decide to play payers has always
Speaker 3: been impeccable.
Speaker 2: You get them.
Speaker 3: Before it's too high.
Speaker 2: That's the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get him at the right time where it
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 5: And it's almost to a point where it's team friendly
Speaker 5: in a sense because you can continue to build around them.
Speaker 2: Yep. And man, I wish man, I wish more teams
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, I don't give himself up.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin is
Speaker 1: frustrated with the lack of progress on a long term deal. Well,
Speaker 1: new reports say that scary Terry is not attending Commander's
Speaker 1: many camps. All these camps, now, O Joe, are mandatory.
Speaker 1: There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory, ojo. How
Speaker 1: with the situation ended, don't get that money, don't get
Speaker 1: his money. You know you gotta tell you how you're
Speaker 1: gonna get his money. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 2: How you gonna get it? Shoot? Jayde Dan from go
Speaker 2: up There? Hello, who is it in? Jayden?
Speaker 5: I need my number one quarterback, I need my captain.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
Speaker 5: but I know what I need on my end. I
Speaker 5: need scary terry to get that money. So I had
Speaker 5: that that that's safety net. So I had that individual
Speaker 5: to throw to the same one. Pull up the film
Speaker 5: from last year. I don't understand what.
Speaker 2: The problem is. I don't know what we mulling around for.
Speaker 3: Hit him his money. I still got two years before
Speaker 3: I'm up, so we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: No, I'm going but yeah, this year, next year, after
Speaker 1: next year, I'm gonna come see you too. And if
Speaker 1: I got him, that increases my value too, because I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna put up big numbers and I see
Speaker 1: where it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: sixty two. Damn, I'm trying to get hold on. I
Speaker 1: tried to get Josh. I'm trying to get Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: number sixty two. Josh Allen would have up sign two years.
Speaker 1: I'm two years after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep
Speaker 1: the market going.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, how.
Speaker 2: Much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full of guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you ain't got to give me,
Speaker 1: you ain't got to give me for three hundred, make
Speaker 1: it all guaranteed, three hundred.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen got three thirty. How much is full of guaranteed?
Speaker 1: Two fifty? He got a quarter billy, he got two
Speaker 1: fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me so six years,
Speaker 1: three thirty. I don't really care nothing about that. Tell
Speaker 1: me how much if it floods, if it's snow, if
Speaker 1: it's a tornado or range, I don't care. Tell me
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna beat, what I'm gonna get. So guess
Speaker 1: what by that time on Joe two seventy five, that
Speaker 1: gonna be the going rate two seventy five.
Speaker 3: Hey, so see de Stroud gonna be in that in
Speaker 3: that Ballpaul to then you.
Speaker 2: Strive up there after this sheet.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, and you better hold Patrick Mahome don't do
Speaker 1: say you know what, I'm tired all these.
Speaker 2: Jokers make it more than me. Give me my true value.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't do that.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He's made it abundantly clear.
Speaker 1: He like he's doing great with money. They've done great
Speaker 1: by him, and he's like, look, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: keep this team together as long as I possibly can
Speaker 1: keep his money, good players around me all our time.
Speaker 2: I'm Brady as I possibly can. Hey, and plus the
Speaker 2: money that I make off the.
Speaker 5: Field can sustain my lifestyle, and it makes up for
Speaker 5: what he's not gonna make in contracts as opposed that
Speaker 5: other quarterbacks has taking a huge lum sum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing is, oh Jo, when you
Speaker 1: look at it, my homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.
Speaker 1: Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years,
Speaker 1: He didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers at four
Speaker 1: hundred and eight million, I think, and then Matthew Staffords
Speaker 1: at three ninety one. Tom Brady way way on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't feel sorry for me.
Speaker 1: Made really good money. But Tom, it became painfully became
Speaker 1: obvious to everybody.
Speaker 2: The most important thing was rings.
Speaker 1: It wasn't money because Tom realized as a quarterback he
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to make money. Now he's making
Speaker 1: thirty five million or thirty seven million a year for
Speaker 1: ten years, so he good so he said, Now, now, look,
Speaker 1: I give y'all some of the chase, cause y'all can
Speaker 1: pass me monetarily.
Speaker 2: I want to see, dude that's gonna catch me with
Speaker 2: these rings? Go get it? Who'll get seven? Who will
Speaker 2: get six?
Speaker 1: While we're talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've already shot under par
Speaker 1: I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: Come catch it. Damn so God, damn Terears Like, Look, bro,
Speaker 2: I have been to the Pro Bowls out of out
Speaker 2: of thousand yard seasons. I don't really know what else
Speaker 2: y'all want me to do. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what else I need to do to show you
Speaker 2: that I'm worth whatever I say I am.
Speaker 5: And his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
Speaker 5: It's just about being patient in the timing of when
Speaker 5: it gets done.
Speaker 3: Miss Minnie.
Speaker 2: Camp.
Speaker 5: To make sure you're working out before the Seaton Star,
Speaker 5: maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss nother
Speaker 5: training camp. You don't know, now, you don't you don't
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in
Speaker 5: a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had
Speaker 5: a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you
Speaker 5: got things off to a great start. Don't don't f
Speaker 5: it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.
Speaker 5: You had a great season in NFC Championship last year.
Speaker 5: Let's keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward
Speaker 5: and changing that culture.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggae
Speaker 1: Wayne Reggae Wayning, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as
Speaker 1: a possible interim head coach if Shane Stikeen struggles to
Speaker 1: start the season.
Speaker 2: Oh yoe, I I like it. You don't like it? Now?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you know they're under you know, Jim
Speaker 1: ursa rest is soul. Mister passed away a month ago.
Speaker 1: His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest daughter.
Speaker 1: Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She
Speaker 1: makes the decision because even if it's a family thing,
Speaker 1: the NFL wants that be one boys. They want one
Speaker 1: person to be able to talk. And so she if
Speaker 1: she's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he
Speaker 1: you know, put it in a situation where okay, you
Speaker 1: have a this and it's going to go accordingly. But
Speaker 1: that'll be very, very interesting because it's one thing like damn,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're
Speaker 1: running a billion dollar corporation, a multi billion dollar corporation.
Speaker 1: It's something entirely different. When you got a head coach
Speaker 1: situation in your first year, that's not something that you know,
Speaker 1: you've been on the job for five six years old,
Speaker 1: show you you want to kind of understand it, But
Speaker 1: your first year you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they've been around the game.
Speaker 5: Though they've been around the game long enough they be
Speaker 5: certain decisions that are going to be made that can
Speaker 5: be you know, somewhat altering business decision and business decisions,
Speaker 5: and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not
Speaker 5: sure who made the call or who made the decision
Speaker 5: when Jeff Jeff.
Speaker 3: Saturday got the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Jim Mercy.
Speaker 3: Jim Mercy.
Speaker 2: So again, he loves his players. He's really closed it players.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, so, I mean, I think I think
Speaker 5: it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.
Speaker 5: He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, He
Speaker 5: understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,
Speaker 5: but what that organization needs.
Speaker 3: To get any back to their winning ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing, Oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Speaker 1: Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff's Saturday.
Speaker 2: They're just even though they're around, they don't have the same.
Speaker 1: Type of relationships. They haven't developed that. And it's different
Speaker 1: male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe. So
Speaker 1: going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and drinking
Speaker 1: with with with Saturday and some of the guys is
Speaker 1: one thing.
Speaker 2: That's not what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have
Speaker 2: that same dynamic as their father had.
Speaker 1: And so that's what you know. I don't wish I
Speaker 1: don't want Shane Stikeen. I don't want him the man
Speaker 1: to lose his job. But I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: situation they're just saying. They're just throwing stuff up, like
Speaker 1: what if they eat struggles. Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shane is gonna be okay. Him losing your job is
Speaker 1: all predicated on how the quarterback play is. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is the quarterback players. That's all it comes down.
Speaker 5: To that's the Madam want to call it the elephant
Speaker 5: in the room, but that's the goddamn elephant in the room.
Speaker 5: How well is a quarterback player gonna play? Because if
Speaker 5: the quarterback player is bad, he's gonna get you fired.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,
Speaker 1: get the coach fired, and them cut self cut.
Speaker 2: That was rich rich used to tell us.
Speaker 1: Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son, you
Speaker 1: play just well enough to get me cut and you fired.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a tough I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Houston is gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound, even
Speaker 1: though they won the division last year. I think they'll
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. We're gonna be very interesting
Speaker 1: to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a
Speaker 1: new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lart.
Speaker 3: Yeah he got to come back.
Speaker 2: He got Bryan Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3: Traves. Yeah, I'm excited. Hey that hey is jackson Jacksonville. Man,
Speaker 3: what what that's best? Stadium gonna be rocking, boy, that
Speaker 3: stadium gonna be rocking.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: The volume