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Speaker 1: There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Burrow says he wants the

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Speaker 1: team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says

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Speaker 1: the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a listen to what Joe had to.

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Speaker 3: Say tomorrow and Ti having a great de deals.

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Speaker 2: It's Trey here, his deal not done.

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Speaker 3: Is that a distraction?

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Speaker 2: Of course? Of course last year we had two, this

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Speaker 2: year we have one, so we do have less to

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Speaker 2: have none.

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Speaker 3: But you know, that's a life in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We're all supporting Tray and would love for him to

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Speaker 3: be back.

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Speaker 5: Mm hm Oh Joe, yes, sir, to take well, listen, listen.

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Speaker 5: I love Joe. Joe also has to understand this is business.

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Speaker 5: It's the business, and the Browns have one way of

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Speaker 5: doing things. They've done things one way. And despite what

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Speaker 5: he may say, despite his concerns about wanting Tree to

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Speaker 5: be paid or him or being a distraction with him

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Speaker 5: not getting paid. This is the way they conduct business.

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Speaker 5: All teams conduct business in the same manner. They're not

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Speaker 5: going to be swayed or forced or bullied into paying the.

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Speaker 3: Individual based on how we as.

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Speaker 5: Players or that the former or fans see fit.

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Speaker 3: They're going to do things their way.

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Speaker 5: They paid, they paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 5: they played, they paid t Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't have the numbers in front of me. I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much is left and in caloriees salary

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Speaker 5: cap space.

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Speaker 2: But not enough to pay Trade what he wants.

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Speaker 3: Actually not enough to pay him what he wants. But

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.

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Speaker 3: But from what I've heard that there are no talks

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Speaker 5: So obviously trade Trade is standing in his ground and

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Speaker 5: he's not in a position despite being the sack leader

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Speaker 5: last year and the sack leader before that the year

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Speaker 5: before that, Like he was a sack leader, but what

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Speaker 5: was our defense rank?

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Speaker 3: Can someone look that can't ask with that up right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just was really quick curious, well, without

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Speaker 1: Trade you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,

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Speaker 1: so you had trade for you at the bottom at

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so they look at all that they look at Listen,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to get paid.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get paid for based on what he's done,

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Speaker 3: you know, to date.

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Speaker 5: But they look at it completely different than the way

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Speaker 5: we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,

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Speaker 5: I love my bangals and I love I would love

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Speaker 5: for trade to get paid. But uh, it's a tough

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Speaker 5: spot that that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,

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Speaker 5: I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen, Uh,

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Speaker 5: at the least opportune time, when we least expected.

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Speaker 1: I look at it like this O Joe, considering he's

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Speaker 1: You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,

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Speaker 1: so most guys have somebody to play off of.

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Speaker 2: It's him. He'll let the league in sacks. But really

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Speaker 2: no one else beside it.

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Speaker 3: And brother Sam Hubbert just retired, yes most of yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Also, when I think about it, I look at the

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Speaker 5: AFC North right, Yeah, standpoint and needing defensive players. It's

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Speaker 5: bad enough. We're already bad on defense. Let's not make

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: I mean that, my goodness.

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Speaker 5: Like, we we need trading in the in the dearest

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Speaker 5: dearest way possible to try to do what we can defensively,

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Speaker 5: so we can we can. We can start a little

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Speaker 5: better this season. You know, I know we always talk

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Speaker 3: You know, they always start slowers out out the gate,

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Speaker 3: you know, being zero and to or one in one

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You gotta stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta get their problem.

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Speaker 1: Okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They

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Speaker 1: have one bad, too bad possession. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you fourteen points down.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta lead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say, for the sake of army, you

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Speaker 1: have too bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the lead lead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what how far away are we from from

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Speaker 3: having a decent defense? Just curious from your listen, you

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Speaker 5: Is this is and y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all

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Speaker 5: released Pratt. Yeah, so wall hold on Pratt with prap

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Speaker 5: prap with the middle back. Where was the mic linebacker? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he led your team and tackles, Yeah he did so.

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Speaker 5: Logan Wilson plays.

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Speaker 2: They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in the second round

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Speaker 5: I was reading yesterday the night they must he must go,

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Speaker 5: being really high on him. Yeah, we're gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 5: plug and play then, huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: And remember Pratt was like, hey, he wanted a contract extension.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to be you don't want to bump and pay, Like, noah, bro,

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Speaker 1: we can't bump you and pay. I was reading now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe somebody just throwing out

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Speaker 1: numbers I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 1: seventeen million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to get him to twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's looking at listening to anything that

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Speaker 1: doesn't start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,

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Speaker 1: because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one

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Speaker 1: guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: And he sees Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: He knows Michael is about to get something that starts

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Speaker 1: with a four, and y'all want me to start with

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Speaker 1: a two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see that.

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Speaker 5: Not.

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Speaker 2: Let's be fair.

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Speaker 5: If he wants to get what he wants, he's not

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Speaker 5: gonna be able to get it because everything you just

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Speaker 5: ran off, we just pay one thirty and one making

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Speaker 5: fifty five, then there's no room for you to make.

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Speaker 3: Do you take do you take a discount? Do you

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Speaker 3: take a discounting?

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Speaker 2: Know?

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Speaker 1: The question is better question does he miss the first

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Speaker 1: to make sure he gets a credited season or does

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Speaker 1: because that's what I would do, because if you don't

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Speaker 1: come back, they still have your rights, So I would

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Speaker 1: you know it? That depends on how serious he is

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Speaker 1: about his money.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's serious, He's serious.

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Speaker 5: And this, this is this is the thing that you

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Speaker 5: can do when they know you love the game, when

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Speaker 5: can't stay away.

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Speaker 3: From the game.

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Speaker 5: They always wants to be team for team, that team

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Speaker 5: oriented and be the but when it comes time to play,

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Speaker 5: this is what this is what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now just talk about the Bengals in general. I'm

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Speaker 5: They will use your love for the game against you

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Speaker 5: because the ben inside of things will sneak up on

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Speaker 5: you and bite your knaves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might

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Speaker 1: the whole season and then he ended up turning it

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Speaker 1: around and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I think it's with Washington and he ended up going

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Speaker 1: to Carolina. It might be vice versa, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I think the thing is to say what

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Speaker 1: I would do. It's easy to say what because you're

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Speaker 1: not in that situation.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 1: I ain't missing no time. I understood that that was time,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be able to get back. And like

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Speaker 1: you said, oh Joe, I think the thing is, they

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Speaker 1: know the guys that really everybody don't love the game.

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Speaker 2: Like we do. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're gonna hard time us. Well this is

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Speaker 1: all we can knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,

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Speaker 1: but we ain't missing no half of those seasons low

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Speaker 1: times either.

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Speaker 2: And let's talk. We love it too much, listen.

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Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,

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Speaker 5: but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.

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Speaker 5: I think where they came to me early twice, right

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Speaker 5: in the early where I didn't have to deal with

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Speaker 5: that type of situation. It is to me, it's almost

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Speaker 5: it's almost a slap in the face a little bit.

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Speaker 5: And you think about it, Yeah, almost a slapping the face.

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Speaker 5: And we take it personally as players, and I know

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Speaker 5: they do when situation like this arise. When you understand

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Speaker 5: what your value is, you understand what the market is,

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Speaker 5: and then you have a team that's hesitating in giving you.

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Speaker 3: Said market value. Make it that hard.

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Speaker 2: Listen. One thing about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how many how many players you got

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Speaker 5: got paid. There's always a way to make it happen

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Speaker 5: depending on who the players. You do understand that, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: If you had this problem last year and you didn't

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Speaker 2: His lifts poked out to the float.

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Speaker 1: So I don't understand how the Bengals thought this situation

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Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Guys are not you know.

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Speaker 2: Teams always want you to think, oh, fake big picture.

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Speaker 1: No, the big picture is me and my family. That's

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Speaker 1: Isn't the best interest in Trey Henderson being all unest Now,

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Speaker 2: We do know.

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Speaker 1: He take his ass out there on that field, and

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Speaker 1: he gets anything that happens, Lord forbid, it does not, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: he ain't getting no pay day.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 5: I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that

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Speaker 3: I think for the fans it's a distraction and it's

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Speaker 5: As players, you have to be able to separate the

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Speaker 3: In the business side.

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Speaker 5: I think if you can park, you can compartmentalize and

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Speaker 3: It's not personal.

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Speaker 5: It's nothing against you as a player, but this is

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Speaker 3: I think you'll be all right.

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Speaker 5: I want Tree to get his money though, you know,

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Speaker 1: Else, because I think the thing is, oh Joe. What

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Speaker 1: happens is that Joe would like to talk about what

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Speaker 1: a great deal practice they'll had, yes, sir, But the

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Speaker 1: and I think he's done enough to He's earned, not deserve,

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Speaker 1: he's earned a raise and pay because guess what, let's

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Speaker 2: Do you think they would keep him on the contract

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Speaker 1: So now he outperforms the contract, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: reward him, But if he underperformed, you will punish him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that's the way it is. And hopefully fans

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Speaker 1: Look, I understand you weren't running a business, but the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh, when you're happy. Yes, which is which

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Speaker 5: always go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always

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Speaker 5: so he had nothing to worry about. He's in the

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Speaker 5: job at hand, no distractions and again not being able

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Speaker 5: you know, the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.

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Speaker 1: He had he I mean he had seventeen and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this

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Speaker 2: It's his turn, his turn.

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Speaker 1: Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

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Speaker 4: Like some people say, we'll all agree trade will be right, right,

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Speaker 4: So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,

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Speaker 4: I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the owner, take all my money.

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Speaker 2: But I guess they don't offer it like that, but

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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, hey, it's easy to say take all my

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Speaker 2: Money.

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Speaker 5: You need to say that, but listen, you learn quick.

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Speaker 5: and then they're they're.

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Speaker 3: Hesitating, they're hesitant on paying them.

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Speaker 5: So in situations like this, this will tell you how

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Speaker 3: Oh man, they're not even playing when it's time to

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Speaker 1: I don't care who, y'all's This is what Mike Florio

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals have decided to wedge a new clause into

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Speaker 1: Stuart refuses to be the guinea pig for the new term,

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Speaker 1: they put a clause in there, Oh Joe, it says

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Speaker 2: That's going too Oh no, hell no, I understand. To me, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I don't like the verbiage. But again I would have

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Speaker 5: If this year, if you mess up, you know, and

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Speaker 5: that serious where we need to recoup some of that

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Speaker 2: Yes, that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Hell no, not over what we don't. Man,

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Speaker 2: Don't do that.

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Speaker 5: I know they're trying to set a precedent. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what his path looks like that even

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Speaker 2: Like that, and no, but it seems to be like

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Speaker 1: Moving forward to everybody, Yes, default in any given year

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Speaker 1: in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight is protected.

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Speaker 1: Now they're saying, if you default in twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 2: Oh hell no, mo joke.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole purpose of guaranteed, get to be able

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I have a question.

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Speaker 5: Are there any other NFL teams that practice the same

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Speaker 1: But we would we would know that, Ah, well, there's

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Speaker 1: So now in offsets, so what that happens offset language.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Some people right there, there

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Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives all eighty

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Speaker 1: or that remaining money.

443
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 3: It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.

444
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: So sometimes they try to put offset language where you

445
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you

446
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: get released and you go sign with another team, ain't

447
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you. I want the money

448
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the money

449
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: they gonna give me. Don't you worry about what I got.

450
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: You just gonna make sure. Ay, just go ahead and

451
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: make sure you keep the checks coming. I will be hey,

452
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 1: you got a got the wide number, go and put

453
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: it in there during deposit.

454
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: So that's what and some teams do. Some teams will

455
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: have offset language.

456
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: If you get another job, even in TV, you get

457
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: released by one network, you go somewhere else.

458
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: They just pay the difference, so you got as whatever

459
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: the case may be.

460
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: So if you get if you get say five million

461
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: over here, you only get two and a half over there.

462
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: You gonna get two and a half.

463
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey man, this is this is as much

464
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 5: as people love the beautiful game, they I don't think

465
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 5: they understand the nasty business side of it.

466
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 3: No, they don't nasty business side of it. It can

467
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: get other, It can get very ugly.

468
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 5: And the fact there's a reason why when it comes

469
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 5: to contracts and negotiations or a situation like this is

470
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 5: a reason why the agents going there are not the players,

471
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 5: because if the players go in those rooms and you

472
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 5: hear how owners really feel about you and what they

473
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 5: really want to do, and the language they want to

474
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 5: put in the fire, the fine print language that they

475
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 5: want to put in contracts to protect themselves else from

476
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 5: having to pay you long term if you mess up there.

477
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 5: Oh listen, it was it was some stuff I don't

478
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: want to bring up the past. But it was some

479
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 5: stuff in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was

480
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 5: that wasn't suitable.

481
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was.

482
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't right.

483
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 5: So if they were, if they if they were doing

484
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: it to Tea and Chase, you know who the meat

485
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 5: potatoes that offense. Outside of Joe, I know they're gonna

486
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: do it to trade and they definitely gonna do it

487
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 5: to the rookie.

488
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

489
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business. It

490
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: never personally I was like.

491
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: Hey, you don't gonna do a I'm gonna call it

492
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got this language in

493
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: your contract. They do it all the time. Yeah, they

494
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: do it all the time. Nah, Bro, you're not finning.

495
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm not finna be no guinea pig. You're not finna

496
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: sit no president with me. And then everybody that comes

497
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: after me they looking at me crazy because I allowed

498
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: it to happen because I have the highest raft pick

499
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: the year that they started this foolishness, and I I

500
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: agree to it.

501
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: So how can this go? Though?

502
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: What if he refuses to play? What if he refuses

503
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 5: to sign the contract unless they remove that language.

504
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that's it they You either have to remove the

505
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: language or he has to say that I'm not playing.

506
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 3: That can get ugly.

507
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 2: Uh. I hope he did.

508
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: I hope he got some good nil money. He hadn't

509
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: spent too much. He hadn't promised his mom or dad

510
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: or whomever house yet, right, Damn.

511
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: I don't like that for him.

512
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't neither.

513
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback to weigh it

514
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: on mentoring the next generation. In his case, he was

515
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's a good kid.

516
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: We got to talk a little bit. I thought he

517
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: did a really I thought he did really well today.

518
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.

519
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: Really well.

520
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with him every single day, every single meeting.

521
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: Found my seat next to him today and the offensive meeting,

522
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: whether or not, it's sticks right next to Will Howard.

523
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna help him out as much as I can.

524
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Okay O, cho, you know, oh yo, you know what

525
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: I like to Yojo. Let me tell you the true sory,

526
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I got middled in college with math. Ain't

527
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: none of that is stick. I told you once we

528
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: got past timetables, me and Math really didn't get along,

529
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: o Joe, Oh Joe, if I couldn't do this like

530
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: this here, yeah, or right it down little scratch papers,

531
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Y's sick one ma and Math with it.

532
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.

533
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only one pile. I know that's apple Pie

534
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: that does it.

535
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: But if he can pie and then start talking about

536
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: if a train left at four thirty in the morning

537
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: and train b leftid six o'clock in the afternoon, a

538
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: walk point with then.

539
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on.

540
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: If Johnny, if Johnny had five bipples, he gave Amy three.

541
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Adam brought back sixty.

542
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: Man if I might pro who is that my face?

543
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: Two trains. One leaves at four thirty am, the other

544
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: leaves at six pm at one time. But I don't

545
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: how fast are they going? I don't know what.

546
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: Man, I just see on Joe. I don't know why

547
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: they just could do Why they could do twelve times twelve,

548
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is how?

549
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: But they start doing all the other stuff that they.

550
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Go with me, So be a math me and math.

551
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: We were not good and uh now math my favorite thing.

552
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: Oh sure yeah, hey whatel Hey that was funny boy.

553
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: But see when it comes to percentage, Okay, you got

555
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: this much and you will get a per said, bro,

556
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: how much is that?

557
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: How much you want? How much you want? Man?

558
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because

559
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and

560
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that.

561
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, hey, I got I got, I got

562
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars for you. Okay, you thirty five dollars?

563
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: Do you?

564
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: Brother? You asking an awful lot. Man, I ain't got

565
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: tired to be doing all that. You know, you do

566
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: this and you and you add point two four or

567
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: point four not man, I ain't got all that. I

568
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: got time for that.

569
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: So no, so I get what they're Andy's saying, mentoring,

570
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody processes information differently. Oh Joe, yeah, me,

571
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: I was a visual learner. I need you to see

572
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: you put it on the board. Do hey, Shannon, I

573
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: want you to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,

574
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: You're the issue on the board. And once I once

575
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: I saw that's okay. I'm good. Now, I'm good. I'm

576
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: a visual learner. Don't explain nothing to me, show me.

577
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, hey, but that

578
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: was funny, boy, at the end of the day, at

579
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the day, or at the middle of

580
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: the day, Oh joe. How well does somebody process information?

581
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: How well do they retain information? And then can you

582
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: spit it out?

583
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: That's it?

584
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: Can you split it out? Because sometimes some people can

585
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: read something and have no hurdent idea what the hell

586
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: they read? Some people can skim over it and give

587
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you a great synopsis of what's what is actually saying.

588
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody processes information different.

589
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers

590
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: joining the AFC North.

591
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a good opportunity to put him in

592
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: the graveyard. Damn.

593
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 3: That's the type of answer you expect from a defense end.

594
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you that

595
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: you expect from one of, if not the best defens

596
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: in the n NF yea in the NFL. Listen, he

597
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 5: got a deal with Aaron Rodgers twice a year, and

598
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: he letting them know ahead of time.

599
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: You already know what time. It is, I nice say

600
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: nice about you.

601
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, Actually, I'm trying to

602
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to add you.

603
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to add you to the resume.

604
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: You know.

605
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack

606
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or somebody, but hey, you're

607
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: the next best thing I'll take. I might not have

608
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.

609
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. But they had listen, shit, they asked

610
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: the wrong They asked the wrong one.

611
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Packer CEO and president Mark Murphy had some shame for

612
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Jarry Alexander when ask about the recent release. He's been

613
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: a great player for us, obviously elite talent. Unfortunately, just

614
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: injured a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.

615
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: We see that we've been used to play it without him.

616
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.

617
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 5: Where I am hey, played fourteen games. Listen, injuries, it's

618
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: something you can't avoid. But one thing I know about

619
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: that young bull, when he's healthy, when he's on the

620
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 5: field and he's playing man the man in your face,

621
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 5: he gonna get everything he got. Any One of the

622
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: best that he wanted the best at it, but it

623
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: doesn't get the credit he deserves it because he's been injured.

624
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: I can only speak on what I've seen. When I

625
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: see him on the field. He gonna talk that trash

626
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 5: to YouTube and back it up the best he can.

627
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: Him and Justine Jefferson matchups. Those matchups were classic he

628
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning

629
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: in every tide in tune used to line them together.

630
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: He gonna go somewhere.

631
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: I don't know where you're gonna go for those they understand,

632
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: they need to understand what they're getting when he is

633
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: healthy and do whatever.

634
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: They need to do.

635
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: They get him on that field and keep him on it.

636
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the toughest part about it, Joe, because being

637
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: available is a big part of how good you are.

638
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: You know, boy, he's a good worker. When I can

639
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: get him to come to work, that is what the

640
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: damn did right, right? Uh? And I look, he's injured.

641
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: I think he said he had a maniscus or something.

642
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: He had a shoulder injury.

643
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

644
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go

645
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: out there and play with something wrong with you because

646
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: you got a lower extremity, because that's how where am

647
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,

648
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a

649
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: dB and I can't raise my arm.

650
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: How do I knock down the pass? How do I

651
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: intercept the past?

652
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Or if I got an injury, I got something with

653
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: my knee, my hips or something ankle. And guess what

654
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: only thing people in the stand seeing people at home see, man,

655
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: y'all you're a game up a touchdown.

656
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: Man. Sorry, he don't feel off bad because he used

657
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: to be good. He don't feel all bad on what

658
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: they see.

659
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't see Monday to you know, and getting

660
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: treatment and all that stuff. You're not able to practice,

661
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: you potentially have to shoot up, you have to take medication.

662
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: They don't see any of that.

663
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: All they see is Alexander on the back of that

664
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: pack of jersey and whether or not he's making plays

665
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: or not.

666
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: It's really that simple. Yeah did you or didn't you?

667
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Damn that's unfortunate, man, And I guess they were trying

668
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: to like come to a number that was amenable to

669
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: both parties, excuse me, and they could just never get there.

670
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Maybe he thought it was too low. They thought it

671
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: was too high.

672
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we've seen teams and

673
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: amount of money they won't eat, because we've seen them

674
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: eat Aaron Rodgers contract Green Bay. We've seen the Broncos

675
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a denomination

676
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty million dollars. They don't care. And there's

677
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: a good chance the falcon the probably have to eat

678
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Cousins summer Cousin's contract.

679
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: Right, So you don't you don't think obviously he's not

680
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: gonna move.

681
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: Huh No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever who

682
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: have take him to pay us. Some stand at each

683
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: other of that that contract and they're like, nah, we

684
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: just wait for you to release him, but we can

685
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: get it for minimum.

686
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, damn, I mean to pay fifty million dollars

687
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: for a backup? Hey, that's good money, up boy, Can

688
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: you imagine? Yeah, back up fifty million. I just I

689
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: remember when this deal came down and you and I

690
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: was talking about it, said, oh.

691
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Cho, we sure was yeah, listen, I sure thought he

692
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: was gonna get at least two years in. I ain't

693
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: know he even, I didn't know. I didn't know it

694
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: would be that soon.

695
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,

696
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: but oho, what if he only gets one and you

697
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell Wilson situation. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: and that's a and that's exactly what happened.

699
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: Now.

700
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some

701
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: protections and get the guaranteed money.

702
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah, I'm not waiving that,

703
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: not get it.

704
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: But cousin man, and I think they still got another

705
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: ten million next year they away, cause he got one

706
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: hundred and ten I think he got he got one

707
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: hundred tiying a four year, one hundred and eighty million

708
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: dollar deal, but one hundred and ten of it was

709
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: guaranteed fifty SI bonus and then six year old the

710
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: next two years.

711
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: Hey, one thing by brother cousins man.

712
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: Listen, God he he God has been good to him

713
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: great and his timing, his timing is been impeccable every time,

714
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: and he better on himself. One thing about it, when

715
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: you bet on yourself, He's come out on top every

716
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: single time.

717
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: So how much you got eighty four. He got eighty

718
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: four to siven one hundred and eighty four million, not no,

719
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: eighty four million four that's twenty one.

720
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: Million dollars a year. Uh huh. No, I was talking

721
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: about We talked about cousins ad. I was like, I was,

722
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: I was like, tweety do Now you're way more than that. Yeah.

723
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,

724
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got sided bonus

725
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: because I think he had one hundred and ten It

726
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then

727
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe

728
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty guaranteed.

729
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: Whoa hey, could you imagine?

730
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: Could a chap?

731
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: Could you imagine?

732
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you

733
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 5: go to sleep at the night and you wake up

734
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 5: in the morning it's and it's fifty million in your

735
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: bank account.

736
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: But Uncle Samon took half of it.

737
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: O Jo he got he got ninety total.

738
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: Fully, if you think about o Jo, he's never had

739
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: a contract since he became to start in Washington that

740
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: wasn't guaranteed because remember he played on he played on

741
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. One year he played on the franchise tag.

742
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal. And then

743
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: he came back. He got another fully guaranteed deal and

744
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: now what to call him? Just gave him one hundred

745
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: million fully guaranteed. Hey, so he got fifty this year,

746
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: he got fifty. Last year, he got forty. This year,

747
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: that's ninety. He got another t in next year.

748
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, that's God, child man, God don't play by

749
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: this sharing.

750
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: He don't.

751
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: But when we come to jayre for the Mark Murphy

752
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: to say what he said, you think that's pharophyle.

753
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: You know what, what did you tell me? What did

754
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: I tell you?

755
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: I want owners?

756
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: You say you won't? You want the truth? More owners

757
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: need to start speaking like this.

758
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO

759
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: to see that the only T that all the TA

760
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: to have oldership, right, Yeah, I mean, listen, tell us

761
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: how you really feel right now? The Bengals are in

762
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's

763
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: no one over there that would do that, But tell

764
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: us why you really don't.

765
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Want to pay him? You know it would be it

766
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: would be it would be a breath of fresh air

767
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: if we can get owner to speak out why them

768
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: really don't want to do things similar what Mike Murphy,

769
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: Mark Murphy, did.

770
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: You know what?

771
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: We like him, we just don't feel we want to

772
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: invest that much money into him.

773
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: We don't think he's Okay, you got you got seventeen

774
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: and a half sacks two years in a row.

775
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: But we don't think he can do it for another year.

776
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: Right, Just come out and say it.

777
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: We don't see him as a Michael Parsons or, we

778
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a

779
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: tier or two DEFENSI come out and say it, because

780
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: if it was anybody else, tell if it was Miles Garrett,

781
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: Oh you're gonna get your money.

782
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like I think I think who

783
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: was it?

784
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: Uh?

785
00:36:59,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Right?

786
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Ricky guy wanted the one of a big contract. He said,

787
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: what you hit last year?

788
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: Son?

789
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: He said, out hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty

790
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: five RBIs. He said, what place did we finish in

791
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: the division? He said, we finished last. He said we

792
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: can finish that without you, So I guarantee you Cincinnati's

793
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: having this conversation. Where do we finish with them defense

794
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: with seventy When you got those seventeen half sacks, you

795
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: were in defensive Player of the year running. Where did

796
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: we be finished? Where did we finish defensively? Okay, we

797
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: can finish that without you.

798
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that that's the that's how they guarantee.

799
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: They're having those conversations, you and I thinking, oh, Joe,

800
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: he should be a no brainer. The guy got.

801
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Seventeen a half sacks. He did it one year. He

802
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: didn't do it just one year, he did it two years. Yeah,

803
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, fine, cool, But a lot of

804
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: times what the mistakes? And sometimes you know you better

805
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: to wait. If you get team you saved yourself probably

806
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars if you signed him last year. If

807
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: you go ahead and give see now, if you gave

808
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: a trade twenty eight million last year, get jump on

809
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: that with both feet.

810
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

811
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: Now you sees where the market is going to market

812
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: is not in the in the high twenties, low thirties,

813
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: the markets in the forties.

814
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you

815
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: just said the way you've just explained it about the

816
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: timing of starting to pay the players, And that's a

817
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 5: difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy.

818
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

819
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: Timing and when they decide to play payers has always

820
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: been impeccable.

821
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: You get them.

822
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: Before it's too high.

823
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: That's the Patriots.

824
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get him at the right time where it

825
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: makes sense.

826
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: And it's almost to a point where it's team friendly

827
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 5: in a sense because you can continue to build around them.

828
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: Yep. And man, I wish man, I wish more teams

829
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: did that.

830
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, I don't give himself up.

831
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: Shit.

832
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin is

833
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: frustrated with the lack of progress on a long term deal. Well,

834
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: new reports say that scary Terry is not attending Commander's

835
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: many camps. All these camps, now, O Joe, are mandatory.

836
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory, ojo. How

837
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: with the situation ended, don't get that money, don't get

838
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: his money. You know you gotta tell you how you're

839
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna get his money. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, I'm

840
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.

841
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: How you gonna get it? Shoot? Jayde Dan from go

842
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: up There? Hello, who is it in? Jayden?

843
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: I need my number one quarterback, I need my captain.

844
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,

845
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 5: but I know what I need on my end. I

846
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: need scary terry to get that money. So I had

847
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 5: that that that's safety net. So I had that individual

848
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: to throw to the same one. Pull up the film

849
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 5: from last year. I don't understand what.

850
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: The problem is. I don't know what we mulling around for.

851
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Hit him his money. I still got two years before

852
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: I'm up, so we're gonna be all right.

853
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm going but yeah, this year, next year, after

854
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: next year, I'm gonna come see you too. And if

855
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I got him, that increases my value too, because I

856
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna put up big numbers and I see

857
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: where it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get

858
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: sixty two. Damn, I'm trying to get hold on. I

859
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: tried to get Josh. I'm trying to get Josh Allen,

860
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: number sixty two. Josh Allen would have up sign two years.

861
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm two years after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep

862
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: the market going.

863
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, how.

864
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: Much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full of guaranteed.

865
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you ain't got to give me,

866
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: you ain't got to give me for three hundred, make

867
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: it all guaranteed, three hundred.

868
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: Josh Allen got three thirty. How much is full of guaranteed?

869
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Two fifty? He got a quarter billy, he got two

870
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me so six years,

871
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: three thirty. I don't really care nothing about that. Tell

872
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: me how much if it floods, if it's snow, if

873
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: it's a tornado or range, I don't care. Tell me

874
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna beat, what I'm gonna get. So guess

875
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: what by that time on Joe two seventy five, that

876
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: gonna be the going rate two seventy five.

877
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: Hey, so see de Stroud gonna be in that in

878
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: that Ballpaul to then you.

879
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: Strive up there after this sheet.

880
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, and you better hold Patrick Mahome don't do

881
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: say you know what, I'm tired all these.

882
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: Jokers make it more than me. Give me my true value.

883
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: He wouldn't do that.

884
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: It.

885
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He's made it abundantly clear.

886
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: He like he's doing great with money. They've done great

887
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: by him, and he's like, look, I'm just trying to

888
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: keep this team together as long as I possibly can

889
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: keep his money, good players around me all our time.

890
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm Brady as I possibly can. Hey, and plus the

891
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: money that I make off the.

892
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: Field can sustain my lifestyle, and it makes up for

893
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: what he's not gonna make in contracts as opposed that

894
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: other quarterbacks has taking a huge lum sum.

895
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing is, oh Jo, when you

896
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: look at it, my homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.

897
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not

898
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years,

899
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: He didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers at four

900
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: hundred and eight million, I think, and then Matthew Staffords

901
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: at three ninety one. Tom Brady way way on that.

902
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't feel sorry for me.

903
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: Made really good money. But Tom, it became painfully became

904
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: obvious to everybody.

905
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: The most important thing was rings.

906
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't money because Tom realized as a quarterback he

907
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to make money. Now he's making

908
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: thirty five million or thirty seven million a year for

909
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: ten years, so he good so he said, Now, now, look,

910
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I give y'all some of the chase, cause y'all can

911
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: pass me monetarily.

912
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: I want to see, dude that's gonna catch me with

913
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: these rings? Go get it? Who'll get seven? Who will

914
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: get six?

915
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: While we're talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in

916
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've already shot under par

917
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm in the clubhouse.

918
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: Come catch it. Damn so God, damn Terears Like, Look, bro,

919
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: I have been to the Pro Bowls out of out

920
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: of thousand yard seasons. I don't really know what else

921
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 2: y'all want me to do. I don't know. I don't

922
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: know what else I need to do to show you

923
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: that I'm worth whatever I say I am.

924
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: And his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.

925
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 5: It's just about being patient in the timing of when

926
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 5: it gets done.

927
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: Miss Minnie.

928
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: Camp.

929
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: To make sure you're working out before the Seaton Star,

930
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss nother

931
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 5: training camp. You don't know, now, you don't you don't

932
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: do that.

933
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: Don't do that.

934
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in

935
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had

936
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you

937
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 5: got things off to a great start. Don't don't f

938
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 5: it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.

939
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: You had a great season in NFC Championship last year.

940
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 5: Let's keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward

941
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: and changing that culture.

942
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Wow.

943
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggae

944
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: Wayne Reggae Wayning, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as

945
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: a possible interim head coach if Shane Stikeen struggles to

946
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: start the season.

947
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: Oh yoe, I I like it. You don't like it? Now?

948
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you know they're under you know, Jim

949
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: ursa rest is soul. Mister passed away a month ago.

950
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest daughter.

951
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She

952
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: makes the decision because even if it's a family thing,

953
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: the NFL wants that be one boys. They want one

954
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: person to be able to talk. And so she if

955
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: she's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he

956
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, put it in a situation where okay, you

957
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: have a this and it's going to go accordingly. But

958
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: that'll be very, very interesting because it's one thing like damn,

959
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're

960
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: running a billion dollar corporation, a multi billion dollar corporation.

961
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: It's something entirely different. When you got a head coach

962
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: situation in your first year, that's not something that you know,

963
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: you've been on the job for five six years old,

964
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: show you you want to kind of understand it, But

965
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: your first year you got to make that decision.

966
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they've been around the game.

967
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 5: Though they've been around the game long enough they be

968
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 5: certain decisions that are going to be made that can

969
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: be you know, somewhat altering business decision and business decisions,

970
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not

971
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 5: sure who made the call or who made the decision

972
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: when Jeff Jeff.

973
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: Saturday got the opportunity.

974
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Jim Mercy.

975
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: Jim Mercy.

976
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: So again, he loves his players. He's really closed it players.

977
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, so, I mean, I think I think

978
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 5: it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.

979
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, He

980
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 5: understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,

981
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: but what that organization needs.

982
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: To get any back to their winning ways.

983
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing, Oh, Joe, you have to understand,

984
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff's Saturday.

985
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: They're just even though they're around, they don't have the same.

986
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: Type of relationships. They haven't developed that. And it's different

987
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe. So

988
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and drinking

989
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: with with with Saturday and some of the guys is

990
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: one thing.

991
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: That's not what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have

992
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: that same dynamic as their father had.

993
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: And so that's what you know. I don't wish I

994
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: don't want Shane Stikeen. I don't want him the man

995
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: to lose his job. But I mean, this is a

996
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: situation they're just saying. They're just throwing stuff up, like

997
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: what if they eat struggles. Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah,

998
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Shane is gonna be okay. Him losing your job is

999
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: all predicated on how the quarterback play is. Yes, this

1000
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: is the quarterback players. That's all it comes down.

1001
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 5: To that's the Madam want to call it the elephant

1002
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 5: in the room, but that's the goddamn elephant in the room.

1003
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: How well is a quarterback player gonna play? Because if

1004
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: the quarterback player is bad, he's gonna get you fired.

1005
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 2: That's what happens.

1006
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,

1007
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: get the coach fired, and them cut self cut.

1008
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: That was rich rich used to tell us.

1009
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son, you

1010
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: play just well enough to get me cut and you fired.

1011
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a tough I mean, I think

1012
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Houston is gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound, even

1013
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: though they won the division last year. I think they'll

1014
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. We're gonna be very interesting

1015
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a

1016
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,

1017
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Trevor Lart.

1018
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah he got to come back.

1019
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: He got Bryan Thomas Jr.

1020
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: Traves. Yeah, I'm excited. Hey that hey is jackson Jacksonville. Man,

1021
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: what what that's best? Stadium gonna be rocking, boy, that

1022
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: stadium gonna be rocking.

1023
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1024
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: The volume