1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: This is Nick Shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys have. Oh what a beautiful 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: morning here in Oxnard, California. Here with the Cowboys in 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: training camp for another week and a half, and it's 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: time for mix shots on this gorgeous Wednesday. 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: I can't emphasize that enough. Nate Newton, Savannah Humoler, Mickey 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Spagnola with you on mixshots here for the next forty five, 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: maybe fifty minutes as we get started with our zamboni 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: at the other end of the practice field. But by God, 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: he's out here cleaning up the field, because not only 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: is it a beautiful day, it's gonna be a fun 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: day the Cowboys and the Rams practicing again. They're having 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: another scrimmage here later this morning, and that'll be fun 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: to watch. But we've got a whole lot to talk about, 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: especially after the walkthrough yesterday and some injury reports, and 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: now I got to use my outdoor voice to make 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: sure that the zamboni doesn't drownd us out. Looks like 21 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: they're cleaning up the field, there was a little morning dew, right, 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: not only blowing leaves. But we'll get to that in 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: a minute. So, Nate Newton Savannah, I thought we would 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: start here. And I think it's funny how when they 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: in the Dallas Morning News, it's like they interview somebody 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: and it's told the Dallas Morning News. 27 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: Right. 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, I got one, told Mickey Spagnola, all right, the 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: injury to Tuma Edoga is a dislocated big left toe, 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: and it is. It doesn't sound like something, but you 31 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: need if you do anything, Nate, right, you need your 32 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: big toes. That's where all your push off is. You 33 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: can't have as big toe exactly. So here's the deal. 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Not only is it dislocated, but I was told that 35 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: it could be six weeks to three months before he 36 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: would be ready to play football again. And what they've 37 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: got to decide is do they keep him on the 38 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster and for one day and then 39 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: put him on IR return but they said he probably 40 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't be ready to return till a round Thanksgiving, or 41 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: do they just say, you know what, we gotta put 42 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: him on I R. And it's a wash. Uh, he 43 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: doesn't play this year at all. But in any case, 44 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: knowing that that he could be out that long, they 45 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: need a backup swing tackle, and that's where a Doga 46 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: was fitting in. It's not like, oh, well they got 47 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: to start the rookie Tyler Geiton at left tackle. That 48 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: was gonna happen anyway, right, he was going to beat 49 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: a Doga out for that starting position. It was just 50 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: a matter of when. But now who's your backup swing tackle? 51 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Awesome Riches, and that's who they're gonna work first now. Yeah, 52 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: and the thing talked about, yeah, is a Doga really 53 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: was the only experienced backup they have. Richards didn't play 54 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: all that much last year training camp, right, Yeah, And 55 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: so I think Nate and I are in agreement. We 56 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: like what we've seen from him at tackle, but he 57 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: hasn't done it. And what happens if he has to 58 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: go in and play sixty snaps at three games in 59 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: a row, if there's an injury there. So I think 60 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: you can say, well, they're going to look out the wire. 61 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: But at this point, as we know, there isn't that 62 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: many good offensive lineman available at this point, and even 63 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: when we get to the cuts, I believe it's August 64 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, they cut to fifty three teams. Just don't 65 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: get rid of offensive lineman if they have anything. There's 66 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: not enough offensive lineman to play in this league. So 67 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: the Cowboys need to be in a hurry, not only 68 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: to develop Tyler Geiton, who will play practice today in 69 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: the scrimmage with the first team at left tackle, but 70 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: they've got to find a backup your assessment of what 71 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: you think you've seen of awesome Richards so far? 72 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: I like him, and I I pick a guy every 73 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: year that I would bug a coach about, and every 74 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: other day I bug coach Mike Clarry about. 75 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Are some riches? 76 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: And he finally said, you know, because coach will never 77 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: give away information. 78 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: So but I bug you he's pretty tight. Yeah, And 79 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: he said nay. 80 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: I say my man got sixty something snaps you know 81 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: at guard? He said, yeah, I like him. Nay, he 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: got great recovery, he got good feet. Uh, he can 83 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: stay in front of a guy, but can't he finish? 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: Is he? 85 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: Is he physical enough? And that is an issue with him. 86 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not they lose confidence. He's just kind of 87 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: go out of haywire and and it won't look good 88 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: for a couple of series, I mean a couple of snaps, 89 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: not series of snaps, and and it and it leaves like, 90 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: you know, that bad taste in your mouth. 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So he he's got to get more physical and 92 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: he's got to be a little bit more dominant. 93 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: But he has the athletic ability and the recoverability with 94 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: his feet to play tackle. 95 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: Will he be mean enough? You know? 96 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: Because if you got him at swing tackle with the 97 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: possibility of playing a guard, you got a special guy. 98 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: But if you don't toughen up and get full confidence 99 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 3: from coach Slaur, we'll be bringing somebody in. 100 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: And they're gonna have to Yeah, they'll look to see. 101 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: But again with as I like to point out, two 102 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: eight and eighty guys employed in the NFL, and if 103 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: you're not employed at this point, what you got, especially 104 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: offensive lineman because Savannah, we know that there's not enough 105 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: of those guys to go around in the UFL, which 106 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: really causes problems with offense in that league, let alone 107 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: have extra guys available to be experienced backups here in 108 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: the NFL. So that's one thing that we're going to 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: have to keep looking at. 110 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: And I really do think awesome Richards has the opportunity 111 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: right now to step up and show that he's a 112 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: physical guy and really work on it. This is a 113 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: great day where he's practicing against the Rams to start 114 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: implementing some of that. 115 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: But also, I mean, we do need to look at the. 116 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: Fact Earl Bostick, we have him on the chart, Nathan Thomas, 117 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: one of our seventh round picks. 118 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: Obviously, these guys take a lot of time. 119 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: To develop, but these are opportunities for those two as well. 120 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: I really think you need to look at this whole roster, 121 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: whole offensive line group, and see who's going to be 122 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: the most physical in this area. Awesome, Richards needs to 123 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: make that step up, but we do have Earl Bostick 124 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: who played. 125 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 5: A little bit during the first preseason game as well. 126 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what worries me though, is we're talking about 127 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: guys who have no experience playing in the NFL, and 128 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: then you're going to ask them to probably not get 129 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: as much practice as you normally would if you're a starter, 130 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: to be able to jump in and not only play well, 131 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: but know what to do. 132 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 133 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of a scary proposition. 134 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: Right now, Arbos is probably ahead of the other guy 135 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: right now. 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they seem like they want, well, 137 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: let's go on the right side. And he hasn't had 138 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: a good camp yet. I don't know what you think, 139 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: but I think he's in a push to make this team. 140 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: It's two guys, and I refuse him to call the name. 141 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: I've never been fans of theirs, and I don't want 142 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: their parents of wise think that I hate him. But 143 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: Josh Baul, yeah, I know, I've never been fans of theirs. 144 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: Tall Rangy look like after they guys, but for some reason. 145 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: They when you can't stay healthy, that bothers me. 146 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: You know, when you when I know you're not gonna 147 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: give me at least for twelve fourteen games, that bothers me. 148 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: Neither one of these guys give you that. I'm not 149 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: saying that they're not mature and understand his game by now, 150 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 3: but they won't give you twelve to fourteen games. They'll 151 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: be in and out of the lineup, so you can't 152 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: even depend on them as backups, kind of like I 153 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: look at Tchuma. You can't depend on them. But that's 154 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: that's today's NFL. I think every team is suffering with that. 155 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: And really the only experienced Ball has is on special teams. Yes, 156 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: he's played thirteen games in his career, but he really 157 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: hasn't had any offensive line snaps and well, let's go, 158 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: just can't stay healthy and he has no experience. And 159 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: those are two guys. I believe both of them were 160 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: fourth round draft choices, fifth round draft choices, and there's 161 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: nothing there. So that's one thing the Cowboys are gonna 162 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: have to look at. And I think we think that 163 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: Guyton has the ability. He shows he got better feet 164 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: than I thought he had, but he needs reps. He 165 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: missed four practices last week with a chest cold, but 166 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: he was able to play. I think it was two series. 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: They didn't want to overdo it with him. But we 168 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: will see him out here today against the Rams with 169 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: the first team at left tackle. We'll see him against 170 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: the Raiders playing in that preseason game on Saturday. But 171 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: as you said, Nate, he needs repss man. 172 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: I am so excited when they told many Rams was 173 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: coming back in here. I am so excited because they 174 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: they have a pass rushing group of guys that ain't 175 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: nothing nice. They got a young guy verse, I mean 176 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: who this this is different? I mean where it's Parson 177 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: is pure speed. This guy got a little bit more. 178 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: He got some speed, he got some power, and he 179 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: can and he put it together the of the day 180 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: on us. Now, I'm not saying this is a game, 181 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: but this guy got something. 182 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: He's talking about number eight, Oh my god, verse and 183 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: you look at his body. He might have been the 184 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: best player I saw in the field for the Rams. 185 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: Bro I don't know what he was. 186 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: He's a rookie, but boy, yeah no, but man. 187 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, you know, yeah yeah, first round draft choice. 188 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: And and he's willing to mix it up. He's willing 189 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: to get physical with you if you want to get physical, 190 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: and he gets he's. 191 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: A chairper, he's a chirper. 192 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: But you know, I'm gonna keep out on him during 193 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: the season. I want to know what he does during 194 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: the season. And like I say, Sacks ain't gonna impress 195 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: me with him, but hurries tackles for loss. I want 196 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: to see, is he got that all around game? 197 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Well, when I ran it, or I should say, uh, 198 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: he came up to me. Uh, Giton's dad. Yeah here, 199 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: he's been here a couple of days already, and uh, 200 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: I said, well, you got to get him going and 201 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: he goes, I'm just the mental coach. I'll stay out 202 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: of mentally right to make sure he's getting. 203 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 3: I could have sued here we go. I could have 204 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: cured Gydon in two days if I know Jim and Britt. 205 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: Please don't take this roll with but I could have 206 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: cured him with an old time cure. 207 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: Some fixed this hot tower in a hot towel in 208 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: a hot room. 209 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: Get rid of Yeah, I had him right, I'm just 210 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: messing around. Please don't tell Jim. 211 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: No, he just needs as many reps as possible today 212 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: and on Saturday and through the rest of training camp. 213 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 5: But awesome, Richards, he needs some reps too. 214 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: So it's got to be a good rotation because you 215 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: can't put it all on Tyler, Giton just right away. 216 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: You both, these guys both need to get caught. 217 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Up to speak now. 218 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: First round pick, Yeah, right away, right away, right away. 219 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: I would have got be honest with you. Miss shouldn't 220 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: even mess around if you we know what Tuma doga is. 221 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: More importantly, in today's NFL, your first, first, second, and 222 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: third pick, you don't mess around, even if you got 223 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: a great starter. Even if you got a great starter, 224 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: you still don't mess around. You tell you to say, hey, man, 225 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: we're gonna put this boy in here. You know, you 226 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: the man. You don't mess around because it's called development, 227 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: and we don't get with so many days and what 228 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: if a guy get a chess cold, then he gonna 229 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: miss four days. Come on now, you don't mess around, 230 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: you agreement? 231 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely. And the other move that we're gonna 232 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: see today is Cooper. BB has been second team center, 233 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: making the transition from guard to center in the NFL. 234 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna work with the first team today. So they're 235 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: gonna put him in with the first line and we'll 236 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: see how he does. Now, brock Hoffman's been holding that 237 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: spot down, and I don't think there was anything wrong 238 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: with brock Hoffman, but I think they want to see 239 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: what BB does at center, and so this week he 240 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: moves to center. See that third round. 241 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: Pick, by the way, But this is the problem I had. 242 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: You should have been doing that two weeks ago, just 243 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: periodically putting him in two weeks ago, first second and 244 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: third round picks. 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Don't play with them. Don't mess around with these guys. 246 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Development is everything, because if the season starts and we 247 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: go two weeks in and brock get hurt. 248 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: Who is the center? Cooper b B. Why haven't we 249 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: been working Cooper BB. He's gotten some apps, but not 250 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: on a consistent basis, Like they'll they'll love you, Laurie, 251 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: but you you I need to come into your meeting room. 252 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: They'll share, they'll they shared snaps there for a while. 253 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: But I think they like what they saw in the 254 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: preseason game when he basically got the start, right, yes, 255 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: because they didn't play oh no, Hoffman played a little 256 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: bit and then they brought be played like two and 257 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: a half series. Yeah, yeah, And and so they like 258 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: what they saw from BB, and they're thinking, well, this 259 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: probably is the eventual future. Well, sometimes the future is now, right, Yeah. 260 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: I would not change my thoughts into this new n 261 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: this new NFL. Your first three picks, you have to 262 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: know as soon as you can do they have a 263 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: chance to be successful in this league. Not being stars, 264 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: but okay, we drafted this guy. We gotta know, and 265 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: we can't wait three years and be saying well no, 266 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: and I'm and I talk to some scouts and usually 267 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if you have, but I know he's 268 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: at they off continually arguing at the coaches, Hey man, 269 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: you love this guy. You stood on the table for 270 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: this guy. Why you're not practicing this guy? 271 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: So why not? So you tell the story about I 272 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: guess it would have been nineteen ninety two. Yes, somebody 273 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: said play this guy. Yeah, Jimmy, just what see that's 274 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: when it affected you. 275 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: It affected me. I mean, I I've told him time, Jimmy. 276 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: Eric Williams was a rookie. He tried to deliver it 277 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: at left tackle. Didn't work, right tackle. He looked at good, 278 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: he looked it okay, And so I figured, you know, 279 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: I'm I'm the starting right time. I got another year 280 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: with this guy before they you know, before me and 281 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: him really competing. We're at what it's Ed's. We were 282 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: in the in the little prayer room you know where 283 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: you you know, we're in a little prayer room. It 284 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: wasn't special. It was a little woman I guess where 285 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: all the coginals met or whatever, and uh. 286 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: It was it was there. 287 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: Was a military chapel, thank you. And so we're sitting 288 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: in there. I'm sitting here, Eric, sitting right here. This 289 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: is the door coming right past you, Mick, and I'm 290 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: sitting Eric, and we taking notes and everything mad Eric 291 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 3: chopping it up and Tony Wise is right there. Like 292 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: the cameras we talked of Jimmy, bust. 293 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: Through the door. Just bust through the door. You know 294 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: he had something serious. 295 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: Lips Tony. He looked at Tony. Tony stops and look 296 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: and he looks at Eric. Eric is our right tackle. 297 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: He barely glanced at me. I'm sitting right next to Eric. 298 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: The year before, you just told me I was one 299 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: of the best five offensive linemen and you was moving 300 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: me out to right tackle because I was better at 301 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: right tackle than Kevin Gogan, and. 302 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: You moved Gold to the left guard. 303 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: Now were you shocked in that moment? 304 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: Well, no, this is the still he told me, because 305 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: I was finna fight Jimmy over. 306 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: There verbally, and he said, because I'd. 307 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: Beat him up before I even opened my mouth to 308 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: go back and forth with him, he said, He said, Nate, 309 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: you have no choice. You either started right tackle or 310 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: you don't have a job. And you don't have a job. 311 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: And I'm not not not a job on this office, 312 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 3: a job at all. I said, Okay, I get your drift, coach, 313 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: I'm your right tackle. But so when he busted in 314 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: there and did that with Eric, I'm kind of just 315 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: waiting till the meeting was old, burning up, you know. 316 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: Went to I said, coach, look at her Man. You 317 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: told me that ain't changed. I'm still one of the 318 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: best friends. Kevin Gogan, I sold Kevin Gogan. Sorry, Kevin, 319 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: forgive me. I said, Kevin Gogan is not a better 320 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: left guard than me. That's my natural position. And he 321 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: went to Tony said, put Nate back at left guard. 322 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: That's only fair. 323 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: And I and I remember telling the story and Tony 324 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: was like, well no, because then we got to move people. Yeah, 325 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that Eric's ready and Jimmy basically was 326 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: he's your starting right tacklele fix it. And I don't 327 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: care whose feelings you hurt. 328 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: Yes, sometimes it's got to be that way, and it's 329 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: not like that sometimes. 330 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: Now the thing is, and how did that turn out? 331 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: It turned out three super Bowls that. 332 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: But the thing what I'm trying to say is if 333 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: Tuma a Dooga had his foot solidly in the door, 334 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. We have no left tackle 335 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: as of today. We do not have We have a 336 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: potential starter in this young guy. We have a potential 337 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: backup in Oswitch and we don't know. 338 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: That is scary. 339 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: The reason is scary because you have a guy that's 340 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: potentially gonna make sixty million dollars standing up believing that 341 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: this his backside is covered. That's why we don't That's 342 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: why I don't believe in playing games. Now, you're finna 343 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: goes to the most important part of the offensive line, 344 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: which is the middle. And if the middle is soft, 345 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: then Dak's gonna be gooey because they gonna dump them. 346 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna Yeah, we'll stop right there. 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I believe so a couple hours. 406 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: And uh, that'll be exciting here and exciting for the 407 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: fans if they were able to find out. This was 408 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: sort of a changing plans after the game on Sunday, 409 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: the Rams evidently we're having some problems with where they 410 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: were practicing. They had plans to maybe practice against the 411 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: Chargers or the Saints, but things fell through, and you know, 412 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: they after the game, they came to McCarthy and said, well, 413 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: what about another scrimmage. We're just right down the road. 414 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: So here we are. 415 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: A thousand Oaks, the Thousand Oaks, I think i's like 416 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 4: a ride up there. 417 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: Go up there tomorrow and see what's going on and practice. 418 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: If they let you in, they probably want some Sirius security. Okay, 419 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: so let's move to the other line, the defensive line 420 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: where the Cowboys were talking about moving a couple of 421 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: people around. I think for Mike Zimmer's taste, Fijoko came 422 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: here as a defensive end. They moved him inside, and 423 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: I don't think Mike thought he was big enough to 424 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: play defensive tackle, even as a pass rusher, So it 425 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: sounds like he's going back outside to defensive end along 426 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: with Chauncey Golston, who they still think could do some 427 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: rushing inside, but he's more of a defensive end. And 428 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: let's face it, it's not all about Marshawn Neeland. They 429 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: really like what he's done so far. I thought he 430 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: played really well in the in the preseason game. But 431 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: who's who's the next guy up behind him? Now we 432 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: understand maybe because of what happened with Sam Williams, they 433 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: got to use Michael Parsons maybe more as a defensive 434 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: end or at least a pass rusher than they wanted to, 435 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: because he is still getting snaps at linebacker. But who's 436 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: behind Kneelan? And I think when they're looking at that, 437 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: it's like, well, we need some help there. And I 438 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: think they also have to figure out, even if they 439 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: are force feeding Mazi to be one of the starting 440 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: defensive tackles along with OsO Diggi Zua, who's behind him 441 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: at the nose tackle? And I think they've got to 442 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: establish that. So have you seen anybody Nate that you 443 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: catch your eye that could play in place of Mazzi 444 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: if he's not out there. Carl Davis did nice. 445 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: I think he did really nice, like two or three 446 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: players in a row where he just knocked the offensive 447 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: guard back and just and got tackles. I mean, so 448 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: we'll see. He's a veteran type guy and this is 449 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: ninth year. Yeah, but you know what right about nice 450 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: is who's doing the job? Okay, and you he's he 451 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: did the job in the game. So here we go 452 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: once again. I just think that if something don't hurry 453 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: up and happen in the middle of our defense, we're 454 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: gonna have to go get a guy. 455 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: Those are two positions that I worry about. 456 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: Is our depth offensive line in the middle of our 457 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: defensive line. Someone don't step up and say, hey, I'm 458 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: that guy, you might have to find someone on the street. 459 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: Now, they have brought in Albert Huggins, who has some 460 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: experience in the league. Fifth or sixth year guy. We'll 461 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: see what he can do. He's a bigger defensive tackle 462 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: right right, And I know Zim puts a premium on 463 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: stopping the run, but again, you do need some pass 464 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: rush in the middle of due and not just on 465 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: third down, right. 466 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't know in this league, you know, 467 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: where sixty five percent passing. Now some teams are seventy 468 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to have somebody that can least force 469 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: it and crush down the pocket a litit so our 470 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: deepens vans can work inside and out. So, uh, it's 471 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: a thin line. It's a very thin line. And unfortunately, 472 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: I think on defense you can find guys on the 473 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: inside that can do both fairly. 474 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to be great, just fair. 475 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 8: Uh. 476 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: The other guys there they did draft in the what 477 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: six seventh round, Justin Rogers, Yes, young guy, no experience. 478 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: And then the other guy in there that's been getting 479 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: snaps is Denzel Dackson, Savannah's guy. 480 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually really like him. 481 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 4: In one note on him is when I talked to 482 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: Will McLay about Denzel, he was saying how they actually 483 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 4: loved his abil for double team coverage and what he 484 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 4: can do in that area, and just how they looked 485 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: at him before they even realized he was. 486 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: An international player. 487 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 4: So they get that bonus roster, seventeenth guy on the 488 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 4: practice squad, but they were going to pick him up 489 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: before they even knew he qualified internationally. They liked what 490 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: he could do on that line and so I like 491 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 4: seeing him. 492 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: Get some reps here. 493 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of, just to throw this out there, their former 494 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: international guy, Isaac Alarcon with the forty nine ers. He's 495 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers and evidently doing some nice things. 496 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: He's back playing offensive tackle. 497 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: That's good. That was good. 498 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Maybe they need to keep an eye on him. 499 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: I know he switched to defense and then well the. 500 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Cowboys switched him. The Niners said, no, you're an offensive tackle. 501 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: So he's one of their backup offensive tackles forty nine 502 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: ers right now. But yes, that's a position I think 503 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys have to obviously take a look at. 504 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: But you know what the good thing about today is 505 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna see some of these guys. But the guys 506 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: that didn't play in the scrimmage, that's the front line 507 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: guys will practice because it's a it's a controlled practice 508 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: and they'll get some good work with the first teamers 509 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: out here today. Which those guys, if they're not gonna 510 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: play in the preseason game and they kept twenty five 511 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: of them out of the game, then they need work 512 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be able to see it. And by 513 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: the way, no problem with Dak Prescott. He's good to go, 514 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: even though they gave him a day the other day 515 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: with a sore ankle. You know, that's just something that 516 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to deal with. As you get older 517 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: and you had surgery somewhere, you get sometimes you get soreness. 518 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: It comes back and haunts you. I don't know if 519 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: you ever had did you have knee surgery? Y just scopes, 520 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: nothing meniscus, right, yeah, but at some point it reminds you, oh, 521 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: you had something done there, right, You get a little 522 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: arthritis and so but Dak's fine, he's good to go. 523 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: Not really any update on ceed Lamb's situation. You know 524 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna get done. It's just a matter of when. 525 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: And you know with this new rules with the CBA 526 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: on how basically rookies don't hold out anymore. Nate, You 527 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: remember during your day all the guys that were missing 528 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: training camp trying to get a contract, right, not only 529 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: rookies but veterans. I think I looked one year and 530 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: five starters were missing in training camp because they were 531 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: looking for contract extensions. And you guys dealt with it, right, Yeah, 532 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: you just got to. 533 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: Ever hold no nah nah? Then you know any money 534 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: was good money. 535 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: With me. 536 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: I didn't care. He trying to find I needed my 537 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: predym too, even though it two hundred and fifty a week. 538 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think it is now? I don't know. 539 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 540 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: The thing, the thing that keeps me saying is I 541 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: don't worry about these guys money. You know, you get 542 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: a lot of older guys worrying about these guys money. 543 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: This is their money. Yes, we we we we put 544 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: in some. 545 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: Time to help them get it. But somebody put in 546 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: some time to help us get us a little bit 547 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: more money. 548 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: So stop. 549 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: Just whatever they gotta do to get CD Lamb back 550 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: in here, and whatever CD has to do to get 551 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: back in here, they'll work it out. 552 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: It'll take place right. Everybody seems really concerned about it. 553 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 554 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: The other thing I saw in the walk through the 555 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Trayvon Diggs was doing the walkthrough with the first team 556 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: defense at right cornerback. Now we're gonna see out when 557 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: they turn him loose to be able to actually put 558 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: the pads on and do more than seven on seven. 559 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: So it's getting close. You know the other day when 560 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: I was hollering out, you know, we don't need we 561 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: need tray Von y'all. Okay, he's our best corner when healthy. 562 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: But what I was trying to get everybody to understand, 563 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: we got Al Harris and the guys that we do 564 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: have are doing a great job, and I think they'll 565 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: even get better this year. But if we can get 566 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: Digs back at some point during the season, we will 567 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: be It will help our pass rush too, because they 568 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: can come up and press and and give us that 569 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: split second more for a pass rusher to get home. 570 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: So that that sort of reminds me. Last week, Mike 571 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: Zimmer was telling the story of they were in a 572 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: meeting and they were going over different ways if they 573 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: had to take a cornerback away, how they would I 574 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: mean a wide receiver way, how they would have to 575 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: play the guy. And he had two different schemes. And 576 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: he goes and after he gave this long talk about 577 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: this and this and what we're going to do, and 578 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: he said, oh, by the way, we got two Pro 579 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: Bowl corners. You guys just go out there and play 580 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: and forget about everything I just talked about. Yeah, because 581 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: he was telling my corners can take guys away. Talking 582 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: about Bland and Digs, He'll be ready for the start 583 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: of the season. They just want to be careful with 584 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: a guy coming back from a torn ACL and putting 585 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: him out there in contact drills too soon. But he 586 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: looks like he's ready to go. We saw, I think 587 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: it was more than maybe even two weeks ago, that 588 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: after one of the practice they were all huddled up 589 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Digs and Parsons start 590 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: sprinting for the end zone. And it had to be 591 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: a good forty yards, right, Digs beat him, and you know, 592 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: Parsons don't like losing it anything, right, And I don't 593 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: know if and we've talked about this, if Diggs was 594 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: running their stocking feet, yeah, because he doesn't like putting 595 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: his shoes on too much. But he can run and 596 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: he's chomping at the bit. But you got to be careful, 597 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: just the way they were with Demarvian overshown in the 598 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: preseason game. I think he got like eleven snaps, but 599 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: he had three tackles in eleven snaps. So he's a 600 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 2: guy that you know, he's coming back from the ACL. 601 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: You don't want to expose him too soon. Just kind 602 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: of ease them in because, as they'll say, we can't 603 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl on August fourteenth. You know, get 604 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: these guys ready to be able to start and play. 605 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 2: So but Diggs is on the way. There's no problem there. 606 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: He's good to go. And you know, talking to the coaches, 607 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: they seem to think that from a mental standpoint, he's 608 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: maybe has dealt with that fact that I mean, when 609 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: you first come back after an injury, you got to 610 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: get over it mentally too. Trust what they fixed. So 611 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: I think he's good there. 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And I was looking 673 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: something up and got reminded that in nineteen eighty six 674 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: when the Cowboys were in training camp in Thousand Oaks, California, 675 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: this was a significant week thirty eight years ago. First 676 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 2: of all, I saw on August eleventh, nineteen eighty six. 677 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: It was just a one line in the in the 678 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: notes at the end, and it said the Dallas Cowboys 679 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: worked out Nathaniel the Kitchen Newton six two and a 680 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 2: half three hundred and twenty nine pounds. Do you realize 681 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 2: that thirty eight years ago nine the list three twenty 682 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: nine they had them listed at and Jim Myers, Jim 683 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: Myers the offensive line, said he's got the biggest arms 684 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: I've ever seen on a man. And then a day 685 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: later they signed. On August twelfth, they signed Nate Newton, 686 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: brought him into training camp, and Myers had this to say, 687 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: he goes, he's in terrible condition, about forty pounds overweight, 688 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: but he still did five pull ups and did them 689 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: the right way too. Right now, I'll take all the 690 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: talent I can get so. In the first practice, we 691 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 2: documented that Nate playing guard, had to go up against 692 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: Randy White and John Dutton, two veteran defensive tackles, knocked 693 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: them both to the ground, and the nice guy Nate was, 694 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: he helped him up. Were you a little worried you 695 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: about hurt veterans right here? Man? 696 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 3: Randy White was special, bro John did not so much. 697 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: He was mean, yeah, but he was mean. These were 698 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: some Uh, there were some great gentlemen man, and uh, 699 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: they was kind on the way. 700 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: They was very kind pull ups. 701 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: They were right because they him and uh, he's a 702 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer defensive line coach. Uh from Randy he was, 703 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: he was Hall of famer anyway, the defensive line coach. 704 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 3: They betted that I couldn't do five pull ups, and 705 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 3: I heard him. You overheard it, Yeah, and that's what 706 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: made me do the five pull ups and no more. 707 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: I could have did many more pull ups, but they 708 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, so when they say get on the pull 709 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: up bar, I bet you can't do five pull ups, 710 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 3: you know, And the defense line took the coach took 711 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: him up on it. So what I did, I jumped 712 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: up the right which they ain't think I could jump either, 713 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 3: I could down the basketball. So I jumped up there. 714 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: I pulled up once. I pulled up twice in the 715 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: fourth oh Man, I just brown. Oh Man just Bradly 716 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 3: got my fill. I just and I looked at him. 717 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: I said, pay him his money. 718 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: I told coach. 719 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna get cut. So I was 720 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: gonna I was gonna not go make it. You know 721 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Man, I'm getting cut. I won't be here, 722 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 3: you know. I get my autograph from Coach Landra and 723 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 3: I'll be gone. 724 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: And the reason Nate was eligible uh to come and 725 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: work out for the Cowboys was the u s FL 726 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: folded probably the week before, or at least they two 727 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: weeks two weeks, right, the Cowboys were in London and 728 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: they uh, the NFL won a the USFL was UH 729 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 2: one lawsuit against the against the NFL, and the USFL 730 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: won and they were rewarded a one dollar UH payment. 731 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: And then and then so anything like that is a 732 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 3: triple reward. So right, so we had to split that 733 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: up against you know how many players. 734 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: You got a penny? Right, So bye, by then they 735 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: were able. You were at the Tampa Bay bandits UH 736 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 2: and so he was eligible to come out. But something 737 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: else happened that week. Nate, do you remember did we 738 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 2: get hirshing in absolutely another for so thirty eight years ago? 739 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: Yesterday they signed herschel Walker UH to a five year, 740 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: five million dollar contract with This was unprecedented in cowboy 741 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: history to get that much of money. Mad veterans. Do 742 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: you remember how mad the veterans were? 743 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: And they didn't they didn't care nothing about bringing it out. 744 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: They didn't care nothing about saying it. Oh they was. 745 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 3: They was hot. It was two guys they were mad at. 746 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: Remember the quarterback we signed, I can't think of his name. 747 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: He played at UH Southern Methodist. 748 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: A cornerback or quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, I can't think of 749 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: his name. Well, at that time, the back of behind 750 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: Danny White were Steve Ploor and Gary Hogebu. 751 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 3: And then no, we brought in another guy, black guy, quarterback. 752 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 2: You drafted out of Southern Mississippi. 753 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: Yes, they drafted him. But he went to the USFL 754 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 3: and played first and then came. 755 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: Right and I'm looking guy and he wasn't got it. 756 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 757 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 4: Okay, this was nineteen eighty six, correct, Okay, Reggie Regie. 758 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: I hate hey, look at here. 759 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 3: Look here you're talking about some guys were hot because 760 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: he had clauses in his contract that you know, and 761 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 3: that's how they tried to hide the money. And every year, 762 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 3: almost at the end of the year, the NFL Players 763 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: Association was sent out everybody's contract and they found out 764 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: all that millions and millions of hitting dollars that they 765 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 3: was paying. Reggie car You, Randy White came unglued where 766 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 3: he had to fight almost every other year to get paid. 767 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 3: Everson Wall was in cents. Man, I cannot believe this. 768 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 3: I'm like us, aveiled baby. 769 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: So what happened was the Cowboys had the rights to 770 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 2: Herschel Walker. Yes it is that drafted them in the 771 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: fifth round in nineteen eighty five, but he was property 772 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: of the New Jersey Generals, owned by Donald I will 773 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: make you lose all your money Trump, and he had 774 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: signed a personal services contract I guaranteed four year, six 775 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 2: million dollar deal, so they had to for so, even 776 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: though the UFL folded and the Cowboys had the rights 777 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: to Herschel, Trump had to give permission for Herschel to 778 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: play in the NFL because he had a personal service 779 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 2: contract right So he comes in August twelfth, the date 780 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: Nate signs, and they had a press conference for him. 781 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: He hadn't even signed yet, right, They got him signed 782 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: the next day. So thirty eight years ago, yesterday they 783 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: signed Herschel Walker And the first thing Tony Dorsett said 784 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: was trade me. I'm out of here. And by the 785 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: end of the day he kind of calmed down because 786 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: now Herschel was going to make more money than Tony 787 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: in what his tenth year with the Cowboys. And I 788 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 2: remember when they first asked and I was there. They 789 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: asked Tony what he felt about them signing Herschel and 790 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: he said, I feel like a million dollars. He wanted 791 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: a million dollars too. But the best thing, here's what 792 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 2: Everson Walls had to say, and ever our partner on 793 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: mixed shots, right, he had the right to renegotiate his 794 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: contract as he had incentives that he achieved. In eighty 795 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: five he led the league in interceptions once again. Well, 796 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: he came out to practice and you know how you 797 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of tape up your ankles and your socks and everything. 798 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: So they called him the spats back then he put 799 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 2: a dollar sign on his ankles he painted a dollar 800 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: sign on his ankles, and he said, if they were 801 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: going to do something like this, as slick as the 802 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys tried to be, sometimes they'd have signed everyone else first. 803 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 2: Because Mike Sharad was holding out. Doug Cosby needed a contract, 804 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 2: He needed a contract. They are going to hear from 805 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people about this. They know there's going 806 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 2: to be a backlash, and there was from the veteran 807 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 2: players that year, and then Herschel came in and they 808 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: finally kind of made peace and shared the running back position. 809 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: And that year, the first half of the year, if 810 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 2: you remember Nate, uh, you guys finished after eight games 811 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: six and two, tied with the Giants who were six 812 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: and two for first place in the NFC East. And 813 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: then in Game nine, Danny White had his wrists broken, 814 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 2: ligaments separated. The Giants never lost. They won that game barely. 815 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: The Giants never lost another game, won the Super Bowl. 816 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: The Cowboys only won one more game after Danny got hurt. 817 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 2: You know what's amazing. 818 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 3: If Hershel only knew that he was really really impacted 819 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: Cowboys in a different way, and. 820 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: That's where I was getting to. And that was at 821 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 2: the beginning of how the trade went down in nine 822 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 2: when they traded them for all those draft choices. Well, 823 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 2: the thing that happened, if you think about it, after 824 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 2: he got there, you guys never had another winning season. 825 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 3: Oh no, we became a one dimensional team. We were 826 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 3: well balanced before Hershel got that well balanced. No one 827 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: player dominated the scene, even though we had stars like 828 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 3: Tony's are, said Tony Hill, Randy, I mean Danny White. 829 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: Randy White, Yeah, Danny we we we we on offensive offense, but. 830 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 3: We we it would spread that ball around and coach 831 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 3: Landrum would have it working. And we became Herschel walker. 832 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 3: And when Jimmy got here, the offensive uh a lot 833 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 3: offensive coach, we were herschel Walker. 834 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 2: And that's Jimmy said, That's what I'm afraid of. Well, 835 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: I can remember, I could remember. I could remember Jimmy 836 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 2: saying the reason that he wanted the more versatile running 837 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 2: back was that Herschel was a straight line. Yes, right, 838 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 2: and his whole deal was running over people like he 839 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 2: did Bill Bates when they were in college playing again. Yeah, 840 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 2: that up, But anyway, that was the start of that week. 841 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: Nate Newton, six time Pro Bowl guard, signs with the 842 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys and then. 843 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 3: I was the reason we went to the Super Bowl. 844 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 3: They built the team around me when you were four 845 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 3: hundred pounds. They have no other choice but to build. 846 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 2: The That's that's that's a lot of building to get around. 847 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 2: He built the team around me. All right, Well we're 848 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: out of time. But I just thought that was I 849 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: knew of the herschel Walker thing, but I forgot that 850 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: that was the week Nate showed up. Yeah, and the 851 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: guy that was the assistant equipment manager, Nick von Diggs. 852 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: We got Carson a little behind the scenes banter and 853 00:49:54,040 --> 00:50:00,280 Speaker 2: so we better get out before it gets too hot heated, right, Yeah, Nate, Anna, 854 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm Mickey, and we'll be back when Chris because Monday, Friday, 855 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: Monday next week, Monday, next week, mix shots on. I'll 856 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 2: be calling in. 857 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: I'll be on the road. I'll call in me all right, yeah, 858 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 3: come on, I don't spoiler. 859 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 860 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.