Speaker 1: How to deal with masked me, among other important things
Speaker 1: will be dealing with this hour. I'm sorry, did you
Speaker 1: just make up a word mask me? It's like acne,
Speaker 1: but it's a skin irritation due to wearing your mask
Speaker 1: all the time, so they call it mask me. I
Speaker 1: think you're tracking mask I think you're tracking with I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Um As masks become, it looks
Speaker 1: like even more more prevalent around the country. UM More
Speaker 1: on that later. Also, a Supreme Court opinion has just
Speaker 1: come out on young undocumented immigrants. I'm seeing breaking news
Speaker 1: banners around on my phone and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to look at what that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to the places that actually know
Speaker 1: what they're taught thinking about it, because virtually everything you
Speaker 1: hear for the next forty minutes or so on mainstream
Speaker 1: media will be incorrect or badly interpreted. We will have
Speaker 1: to dip back into the Joe Biden came out of
Speaker 1: his spiky hole yesterday and did a little talking and
Speaker 1: we'll see how that went. Thank you, Oh boy, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that has an emotional effect on me. Hearing
Speaker 1: that you're hearing a man who is near the end.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. He can barely get his breath out.
Speaker 1: Check him for the COVID. Oh, that reminds me. We
Speaker 1: got a note from a bloke in Phoenix. Where is
Speaker 1: it there? It is, I'll just keep him anonymous. You
Speaker 1: had to do some flying and uh. And he flew
Speaker 1: back and forth um from Phoenix to Salt Lake City,
Speaker 1: and not long after he starts feeling sicker than he's
Speaker 1: ever felt. And while his email is ridiculously long al
Speaker 1: cheese three full pages, he describes the drama of trying
Speaker 1: to get a COVID test and he's he's trying to
Speaker 1: deal with his county, he's trying to deal with the
Speaker 1: CVS that is allegedly allegedly doing tests, and his efforts
Speaker 1: to to just line up a test going for hours,
Speaker 1: days and he's getting the run around. Finally shows up
Speaker 1: at the CVS. It's empty, there's nobody there, but they
Speaker 1: say you have to have an appointment. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: can you just do me now you're didn't. Now you've
Speaker 1: gotta make an appointment. So he tries to make an
Speaker 1: appointment and they say and and then he gets kicked
Speaker 1: out of the system and he goes back and they say, yeah,
Speaker 1: the system is not working, and it was just it
Speaker 1: was like your your worst government healthcare nightmare. You can't
Speaker 1: go to the doctor. I thought they were. I thought
Speaker 1: if you had symptoms, they would like run you to
Speaker 1: the tests. I don't think that's enough to depend a
Speaker 1: pretty solid email. I think he would be able to
Speaker 1: exploit the uh, you know the opportunities that are out there. Um,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like a nightmare to me. Other places
Speaker 1: you just drive up, I guess. Um. There was an
Speaker 1: attempt in the city of Portland to get a chairs
Speaker 1: going apparently late last night and early this morning, and
Speaker 1: it was broken up quickly by authorities, even in Portland
Speaker 1: because I think they realized if you if they if
Speaker 1: they get a toe hold, then it's just it's a
Speaker 1: nightmare and we don't want to deal with that, even
Speaker 1: if we agree with some of their stuff, that'd be
Speaker 1: my guess. Uh, you just you just don't want what
Speaker 1: Seattle is dealing with. And so it was broken up
Speaker 1: very quickly into Portland doesn't at least as of now,
Speaker 1: has no chairs. Wow, but they still have a chairs
Speaker 1: Where Chaz exists in Seattle, it is Chaz, it's somewhat
Speaker 1: surprising that that Portland would move so swiftly. Could it
Speaker 1: be that they witnessed Freeattle's descent into psychosis? And even
Speaker 1: the way lefties who were in Portland said, that's a
Speaker 1: bridge too far. We don't have autonomous zones in Portland.
Speaker 1: We have ten cities and crazy people in bums shooting
Speaker 1: up on corners, stopping traffic regularly, and we let them
Speaker 1: get away with it, right right, But that that would
Speaker 1: be too much apparently, well, okay, that's fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: I prefer they are even less crazy than they are
Speaker 1: because I love Portland. But um, anyway, that's an interesting development.
Speaker 1: So according to our friends at Scotus blog, uh docca oh,
Speaker 1: the majority said The majority of the Supreme Court said
Speaker 1: the decision to determine to terminate DOCCA was arbitrary and
Speaker 1: capricious because the Acting Secretary's decision to terminate the program
Speaker 1: discussed the legality of the benefits associated with DOCCA, but
Speaker 1: didn't discuss forbearance the decision to defer removal or whether
Speaker 1: there was legitimate reliance on the DOCCA memory blah blah blah. Legally,
Speaker 1: so this DOCCA stands for now and what is its
Speaker 1: current situation. It's uh, you don't get deported if you
Speaker 1: were brought to the country as a kid, Okay, And
Speaker 1: that will law. And the acting Secretary of Homeland Security,
Speaker 1: I think, had called for the end of DOCCA and
Speaker 1: the soup said no, and that will continue to be
Speaker 1: the law of the day. Yeah for now. Um. Clarence
Speaker 1: Thomas descended he's unhappy under the auspices of today's decision.
Speaker 1: Administrations can bind their successors by unlawfully adopting significant legal
Speaker 1: changes through executive branch agency memoranda. Oh listen to him.
Speaker 1: Bring it. This is a little more pithy. Today's decision
Speaker 1: must be recognized for what it is, an effort to
Speaker 1: avoid a politically controversial but legally correct decision. That's old,
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas. Interesting the number out today, This happens every Thursday.
Speaker 1: One point five million workers claimed jobless benefits last week,
Speaker 1: marking eleventh straight week of declines, which is a positive
Speaker 1: spin and and it is true, but it's still an
Speaker 1: extraordinary number. Um. Yeah, that's new, claims the feel or
Speaker 1: at least you know in my part of the world.
Speaker 1: And from what I read, is that okay, we're opening
Speaker 1: back up. The economy is going again. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're figuring out the social distancing and masks and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. We're trying to do it smart.
Speaker 1: But we're absolutely now moving forward. The idea that one
Speaker 1: point five million new people filed that's rough man, that's
Speaker 1: businesses that just ran out of gas. How probably, the
Speaker 1: Fed Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said today he's already said
Speaker 1: that the worst of the economic crisis caused by the
Speaker 1: coronavirus could nearly be over as businesses are reopening across
Speaker 1: the country. We may be reaching a bottom on that
Speaker 1: that now. So we're at the bottom right now. I
Speaker 1: hope he's right along the bottom lasts. I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the question. The V shape recovery versus the
Speaker 1: U shaped jack or the feared hockey stick, or it
Speaker 1: just goes straight for a long time at a low level.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We'll have to find out. Can can
Speaker 1: I hear our Joe Biden clip again? Wake Up? Obviously
Speaker 1: hands that wake up needs to be a regular part
Speaker 1: of the intro to the show. I used to get
Speaker 1: in there. Wake Up, wake Up, wake Up is that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm trying to understand. The scenario was that
Speaker 1: one man who didn't quite succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning
Speaker 1: urging another man who has to wake up? Is that
Speaker 1: the first guy near death apparently wake up. That's a
Speaker 1: gentleman who has found asleep in his car in the garage,
Speaker 1: right exactly. Yeah, he hed falling asleep after starting his car,
Speaker 1: and he's at the risk of death. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I'm having a gut caveman reaction to that. I hear
Speaker 1: a man near death, I'm serious, and what I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I got his final wishes. What I'd
Speaker 1: really like to know is was there a decision made
Speaker 1: like you talked about tow like really low key at
Speaker 1: things are frantic Pole Show people are being exhausted by
Speaker 1: the new cycle. I am. I just talking about it
Speaker 1: with my wife last night. Yes, I said, I just
Speaker 1: can't handle this anymore. The new cycle is killing me.
Speaker 1: She said, I don't even look anymore. I know. It's
Speaker 1: just your your brain reaches a point where you just
Speaker 1: can't take any more stimulus, and it's it's a protective
Speaker 1: mechanism um to to ignore it and shut it down
Speaker 1: if it's not like a bear trying to eat one
Speaker 1: of my children. Right now, I have to block it out.
Speaker 1: I want to can you do of a sabbatical in
Speaker 1: the the entertainment business where you just go away for
Speaker 1: six months? How about folks, listen, we'll be back in
Speaker 1: late October. We're just gonna take a couple of months off.
Speaker 1: But so so we don't go psychotic. But my question is,
Speaker 1: did they coach Biden on that and say extra low
Speaker 1: key yes, or did he just come out and that's
Speaker 1: just what he sounded like yesterday. Well they give him
Speaker 1: a pep talk and say high energy, and he came
Speaker 1: out like this, thank you. I tell you what. It
Speaker 1: is clear his strategy is to be old, calming, Joe,
Speaker 1: old bipartisan, middle of the road Gio all this craziness
Speaker 1: Donald Trump place, come on, everybody, return to normal times.
Speaker 1: Remember the sixties. Those were a good time, right? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a bad example. It was the sixties when
Speaker 1: I got elected to the Senate for the first time.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a hundred anyway, it's it's clearly a strategy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know whether he just went a little
Speaker 1: too far there, or if he's actually got to one
Speaker 1: foot in the grave. He sounds like he's dying, you know,
Speaker 1: a tangent um. I've heard a couple of people point
Speaker 1: this out recently, and it's absolutely true, and I think
Speaker 1: it's worth keeping in mind when we have all these
Speaker 1: discussions when people refer to the sixties, what they really
Speaker 1: mean is like sixties seven through seventy three. That's people
Speaker 1: mean when they refer to the sixties. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: The bulk of the sixties, sixty through sixty seven, we're
Speaker 1: quite placid um and like old tiny America here summer
Speaker 1: a of nineteen sixty seven thing was mostly amusing. It's
Speaker 1: really like sixties seven through the early seventies is what
Speaker 1: people mean by the turbulent, chaotic hippie music, drugs, craziness,
Speaker 1: right bombing sixties. Yeah, yep, agreed um. But I thought
Speaker 1: another thing on the interview with Robert Gates yesterday, former
Speaker 1: SEC deaf, former CIA chief worked under geez what seven
Speaker 1: different presidents or something like that, old guy being around
Speaker 1: a long time, and asked, is this as crazy as
Speaker 1: has ever been? And he said, yeah, absolutely, So it's
Speaker 1: not just you know, in the imagination of the young,
Speaker 1: No wonder I'm so exhausted. Yeah, it's as crazy as
Speaker 1: it's been in a very very long time. Um. I
Speaker 1: found this kind of calming. A Fortune survey of CEOs
Speaker 1: and some of their attitudes right now about changing their
Speaker 1: companies for racial stuff or the economy in different things
Speaker 1: I found quite interesting. Among other things we could get to,
Speaker 1: we also had a number of people weighing in about
Speaker 1: their wives or husbands in the way they react when
Speaker 1: they're doing the uh, the non driving portion of going somewhere,
Speaker 1: the backseat driver. Oh no, myrtle strife. I hate to
Speaker 1: hear that. Our text line is four one to nine
Speaker 1: five k f TC art Strong and the Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getty Show. I suppose at some point out to mention
Speaker 1: the Bolton book, that is, is it's Outer or not Outer? Well,
Speaker 1: it's not out officially, but all sorts of copies have been.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Nobody reads these books. People dig through
Speaker 1: to get the juicy chunks the back of their narrative,
Speaker 1: and everybody talks about them like crazy for two days,
Speaker 1: for for a day and a half, and then nobody
Speaker 1: reads a minute. It goes away. That's what happens book
Speaker 1: after book after book, yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that maybe next segment. Okay, there's some interesting stuff in there.
Speaker 1: And and the fact, well what's most notable to me
Speaker 1: is that everybody on all sides is kicking John Bolton
Speaker 1: for being a weasel. Um. But anyway, more of that
Speaker 1: to come quick aside, The left is so good at
Speaker 1: at imposing um, how we talk about things. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: way better than the right. And it's bothered me for
Speaker 1: a long time. For instance, I'm in the the lunch
Speaker 1: room getting some caffeine juice and Fox News is reporting
Speaker 1: on the docket decision that just came down, and they
Speaker 1: refer to the docket recipients as dreamers, dreamers get to
Speaker 1: stay or whatever. That That is a term, that's a
Speaker 1: pr spin term invented by the left to make all
Speaker 1: of this could be against a dreamer of this brilliant.
Speaker 1: By the way, we suggested calling doctor recipients precious fairy
Speaker 1: dust angels. I mean, that's only slightly more ridiculous than dreamers.
Speaker 1: Fox News has adopted that in that verbiage, that nomenclature.
Speaker 1: That is a win if you're that belief. Yep, Michael
Speaker 1: mentioned his fiancee, uh, making noises while he was driving,
Speaker 1: and he was afraid something horrible had happened. We got
Speaker 1: this text my wife taught me. Gasping and grasping the
Speaker 1: dash with both hands without explanation, unnerves every driver, including
Speaker 1: this great one. So she's a gasp and grasp the
Speaker 1: dash with both hands. My wife does that fairly regularly.
Speaker 1: My wife has done that too. I have urged her repeatedly. Sweetheart,
Speaker 1: if we are in danger, the last thing in the
Speaker 1: world you want to do is lean forward, all right,
Speaker 1: let your let your belt keep you in place. Oh
Speaker 1: and not danger, by the way. Uh oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1: And then you look around everything like that, and somebody
Speaker 1: spilled an ice cream car ice cream cone. I've had
Speaker 1: that experience anytime we're about to be hit by a track.
Speaker 1: Oh no, somebody spilled something in the backseat. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: need we need different sound effects for these things. Exactly
Speaker 1: internal issue, not external threat. Um Fortune Survey of eos
Speaker 1: planned policy changes in response to the current calls for
Speaker 1: racial justice. This is a survey of CEOs around the
Speaker 1: country on a number of topics, but six policy changes.
Speaker 1: Due to the social unrest. There's hardly a website. I've
Speaker 1: been to whether it's genes or music or whatever, where
Speaker 1: they don't have some sort of hashtag we're with the
Speaker 1: protests or lots of we support Black Lives Matter, which
Speaker 1: shocks me because if you go to Black Lives Matter website,
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stuff on there that the majority
Speaker 1: of the country absolutely does not support UM. So it's
Speaker 1: interesting to me that mainstream outlets are so free with
Speaker 1: their support of of that. Well, I think just to
Speaker 1: stay out of trouble. Every stovetop stuffing and running shoe
Speaker 1: and gene and guitar string is just making it clear
Speaker 1: we're down with it. Are there are people that actually
Speaker 1: look for that and won't do business with a corporation
Speaker 1: that hasn't posted something like because I don't even think
Speaker 1: of it. If I need to buy something, that's all
Speaker 1: that's privilege. Maybe it is the numbers in white gene,
Speaker 1: is that any wears them tight. That percentage goes up
Speaker 1: as the age goes down. The younger the consumer, the
Speaker 1: more likely they already care about they're looking on the
Speaker 1: website to see if they've made a stand. They have
Speaker 1: really internalized the voting with your dollar mantra of a
Speaker 1: lot of things that's why you see the targeting of advertisers.
Speaker 1: They're they're aware of the financial power of collective. But
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's a change, you know, and maybe I
Speaker 1: have Is it for the better? Where I I never
Speaker 1: have an I doubt that I'm going to change At
Speaker 1: this point in my life. I don't think about the
Speaker 1: politics of the company's I do business with. I just
Speaker 1: it never crosses my mind. But the next generation it
Speaker 1: might be very important to them. Uh of ceo say
Speaker 1: revenues have already recovered or never dropped. Well, this is
Speaker 1: Fortune magazine, so they're trying to have a positive spin, right, Um,
Speaker 1: thirty percent of ceo say revenues have recovered were never dropped. Well,
Speaker 1: that's only that leaves out an awful lot of companies
Speaker 1: said they didn't drop them, have not recovered it. Some
Speaker 1: say won't recover in the foreseeable future only four per cent,
Speaker 1: but almost half expect the recovery to recur between January
Speaker 1: twenty one in June, so they put the bad news
Speaker 1: at the bottom. But almost half of the cd CEOs
Speaker 1: think the recovery won't occur for like a year and
Speaker 1: a half. Not good, No, No, I thought this was
Speaker 1: interesting seventies seven percent of ceo say their company's digital
Speaker 1: transformation was significantly accelerated during the economic crisis. That rings
Speaker 1: so true. Sure, so you were headed toward this with
Speaker 1: computers and skyping and all this sort of stuff, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the highest priority get this
Speaker 1: going right now. Well and listen, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of inertia, or call it momentum if you want, in
Speaker 1: businessmum momentum. That's right, the president, I'm playing in a
Speaker 1: golf tournament this weekend. That's our team slogan. Momentum. But
Speaker 1: you gotta shout it or write it in all caps
Speaker 1: like the president is. But there's a certain amount of
Speaker 1: momentum in business. Things exist just because they have existed.
Speaker 1: They're going to do tomorrow what they did yesterday just
Speaker 1: because they did it yesterday. And with lots of people
Speaker 1: either furloughed or or at home, is a little less significant.
Speaker 1: But a lot of businesses are finding out. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a little better with the furloughed people here,
Speaker 1: but not that much better. I think we just won't
Speaker 1: bring them back. You're gonna see sustained unemployment for that
Speaker 1: reason for a long time, and you could argue that
Speaker 1: it's making businesses lean or mean or more effective in
Speaker 1: some cases. Um, but yeah, I think that's really going
Speaker 1: to delay the bounce back because they had to find
Speaker 1: out just how important all of us were and some
Speaker 1: of us not so much. I'm talking about us. You
Speaker 1: guys need a cool off, because this is not the time.
Speaker 1: We can't handle a world war right now. We're already
Speaker 1: dealing with so many things. Coronavirus, economies are tanking, global
Speaker 1: protests are happening, and at any minute more Hollywood actors
Speaker 1: could release one of those black and white videos. Nah. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, I've got one of those. That's just terrible.
Speaker 1: We need to play later, one of those I'm a celebrity,
Speaker 1: you should take me seriously videos. Apparently word has not
Speaker 1: penetrated their thick, thick film of self importance that nobody
Speaker 1: wants that China versus India, it seems calmish for right now.
Speaker 1: I hope the third and fourth biggest military in the
Speaker 1: world squaring off killing each other over the weekend. Well,
Speaker 1: this common time is when they put more nails in
Speaker 1: the bats. Yeah, apparently heard up for the next battle.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I heard it. Described by a pretty sober
Speaker 1: commentator as a gang war, that they're just they they patrol,
Speaker 1: they see each other occasionally, they you know, maybe shout
Speaker 1: stuff at each other, and they hate each other just
Speaker 1: because they're on the other side. And these guys just
Speaker 1: they interrupted into fists and sticks and whatever, and they
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of each other. And I was
Speaker 1: listening to in the Chinese side one. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Indians were out numbered or just aren't good
Speaker 1: enough fight or what. I hadn't meant to talk about this,
Speaker 1: but I was listening to a podcast yesterday with one
Speaker 1: of what I'm told the best Chinese experts in in
Speaker 1: America aren't think tanks constantly in communication with with the Chinese. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, military, etcetera, etcetera, and uh. And this woman said,
Speaker 1: they are going to move on Taiwan. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of when she is gonna move on Taiwan. And
Speaker 1: she said she's talked to people in the Chinese military
Speaker 1: who have said, what's America gonna do? They can't stop
Speaker 1: us at this point. Their belief is we don't have
Speaker 1: the will or the ability to stop them from do
Speaker 1: doing that. They don't think we've got the military might
Speaker 1: to stop them from doing something like that, honestly on
Speaker 1: both counts. And she said, whether they're right or wrong,
Speaker 1: it's a big dilemma because they could be wrong, but
Speaker 1: that means they're still going to do it and uh right,
Speaker 1: and it'd be a heck of a thing to find out,
Speaker 1: you know, who's right. One of our emailers referred to
Speaker 1: a president she is Winnie the Poo's stunt double stunt
Speaker 1: double uh, which I thought was very funny. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the idea, well, in terms of could we stop them,
Speaker 1: I say no, because, with all due respect to the
Speaker 1: might of the American Navy, it's like, um, if if
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, Staten Island were a rebel territory
Speaker 1: of the United States, I mean we could we could
Speaker 1: decide all right, let's take it all right now, and
Speaker 1: ten minutes later we'd be overrunning it. And if some
Speaker 1: other country was unhappy about it, well they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to get there in time. It'd be fatal complete.
Speaker 1: Then you'd have to like invade it get it back,
Speaker 1: and there's no way we have the will to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, this fits in a little bit. We're we
Speaker 1: would just sanction uh, the Beijing out of them for
Speaker 1: the next ten years or whatever. That could be our
Speaker 1: only response if I'm gonna be honest about it, boy,
Speaker 1: And then what does that look like? The crazy cyber warfare?
Speaker 1: And what does that say to the world? What does
Speaker 1: that look like in the world stage? That is an
Speaker 1: announcement that, Okay, there are two coequal militaries out there.
Speaker 1: Isn't that just a statement of that? No, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, just because of the geographic reality of it.
Speaker 1: If you ever look at a map, I mean, China
Speaker 1: is this enormous country and then you squint your eyes
Speaker 1: and you see Taiwan is this little island that's right
Speaker 1: next to I mean, right there, and they go, but
Speaker 1: just gobble it up? Now? Will we let them fully
Speaker 1: militarize the South China? See? No way, They've wanted Taiwan
Speaker 1: for seventy five years. It's always been a tiny speck
Speaker 1: right off of China. They didn't take it before because
Speaker 1: they didn't think they could. According to this person's interviews
Speaker 1: with military people, they can now. So that's a that's
Speaker 1: a change in uh in situation um. And it kind
Speaker 1: of fits in with the Bolton book. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about little bit the Wall Street Journal. Of course, they
Speaker 1: picked out part of the Bolton book where he said, oh,
Speaker 1: some things that were somewhat flattering the President Trump. Don't
Speaker 1: want those to sneak into the media. But on how
Speaker 1: you know, he's happy that Trump recognizes the situation with
Speaker 1: China um and Bolton is way more you know, hawk
Speaker 1: ish that direction, and he talks about past presidents and
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, But he was, he was on
Speaker 1: how we everybody understands this now. Secretary Gates talked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday in an interview. The world made a bet
Speaker 1: that if we let China run run free their econot
Speaker 1: with their economics, screwing everybody around the world, at least
Speaker 1: as their economy grows, they'll become nicer and all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff didn't work. Bad idea it's over didn't
Speaker 1: help at all. All they did was build a very
Speaker 1: frightening military with a very frightening attitude. But this expert,
Speaker 1: this expert, she said, the idea that they would uh
Speaker 1: that they that the middle class would take over and
Speaker 1: they'd open up and they'd get calmer, was was wrong.
Speaker 1: She said. What was also wrong, and in retrospect really wrong.
Speaker 1: Is this idea that you can tell somebody, we're going
Speaker 1: to allow you to be number two as long as
Speaker 1: you want, you can be a good, solid number two.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. Doesn't that make you feel good.
Speaker 1: Nobody feels good being told we're going to allow you
Speaker 1: to be second best. Nobody actually wants to be vice president.
Speaker 1: I hadn't take that deal in a second. I had
Speaker 1: never thought of it that way before, But that was
Speaker 1: what what the United States was saying to China. We're
Speaker 1: absolutely in favor of you becoming number two, the second
Speaker 1: best economy and the second best of this, and the
Speaker 1: second best that. And then they thought, when we're not
Speaker 1: interested in big number two, we want to be number one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I suppose maybe, you know, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I buy that argument, because there are plenty of countries
Speaker 1: that seem fine with being number seventeen. But maybe if
Speaker 1: you're number two, you smell number one and sure, and
Speaker 1: you want to be it. But what's interesting is China's
Speaker 1: wealth enabled it to double down on its aggressive totalitarian impulses.
Speaker 1: It was the opposite of what all of us hoped
Speaker 1: would happen. You know, back in the great opening of China,
Speaker 1: Uh dialogue, um or you know the narrative. So the
Speaker 1: Bolton's book is coming out any day, although the Justice
Speaker 1: Department is suing. I'm saying he violated his nondisclosure agreements
Speaker 1: in the rest of it, but so much of it
Speaker 1: is leaked out it's it's become a moot point anyway. Uh.
Speaker 1: So you know, a couple of things bother me about
Speaker 1: the coverage. Number One, Bolton thinks Trump isn't good at
Speaker 1: foreign policy and doesn't know enough about it. Okay, if
Speaker 1: if you either agree or you don't agree, or you think, well,
Speaker 1: he's still better in the alternative, that's fine. What bothers
Speaker 1: me about the coverage of it is that it's it's
Speaker 1: like a game of telephone it. The things that the
Speaker 1: book actually says are getting characterized and recharacterized um in
Speaker 1: the media. For instance, UM. One passage that's just getting
Speaker 1: flogged is uh. Bolton writes that Trump was quote pleading
Speaker 1: with she to ensure he'd win the reelection. But Bolton
Speaker 1: said he could not print the president's exact words because
Speaker 1: of the government's prepublication review process. So pleading with she
Speaker 1: to ensure he'd win what do you actually say. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if he said, you know, it would really help
Speaker 1: our farmers, that would help me politically. I could get reelected.
Speaker 1: We could keep going down that path. I don't find
Speaker 1: that a particularly obnoxious or or wrong. Bolton says Trump
Speaker 1: was was obsessed with getting re elected to the exclusion of,
Speaker 1: like America's good, what would really serve America? I don't
Speaker 1: know that's Bolton's opinion. That would be in the ivy
Speaker 1: beholder on an instant by instant basis. But you remember
Speaker 1: the famous Obama video of I'll have more freedom after
Speaker 1: the election. He was not doing something that would hurt
Speaker 1: his re election chances and tell him the leader of Russia,
Speaker 1: that I'll do I can do it after the election,
Speaker 1: but I can't do it now because it would hurt
Speaker 1: my chance of getting reelected. Lots of presidents have done that.
Speaker 1: That's a very common thing to do, might be unfortunate,
Speaker 1: might be an stream. You might cross a line where
Speaker 1: it's extreme, But I don't know. I'd have to know
Speaker 1: the instance by instance, right decision right um. And the
Speaker 1: other one that that bothered me is that in the book,
Speaker 1: Bolton says he's asked, what did Putin think of Trump,
Speaker 1: and Bolton says, I think Putin thought he could play
Speaker 1: Trump like a fiddle, which evolved on NBC News and
Speaker 1: NPR This Morning to Bolton thought Putin could play Trump
Speaker 1: like a fiddle. When Bolton was describing what he thought,
Speaker 1: Putin thought, and Putin thought he could play Obama like
Speaker 1: a fiddle. And he thought he could play George W.
Speaker 1: Bush like a fiddle. He's a pretty good fiddler too,
Speaker 1: by the way, Putin, I'll put a fiddle of gold
Speaker 1: against your soul. If you think you're better than me,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm pretty bad. Um. Here's the part that
Speaker 1: I hate and why I don't really want to discuss this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be incredibly heavy? Even think you'd be resonant
Speaker 1: at all? Can we just do like a cash bed?
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I'm getting into some if I'm like,
Speaker 1: come up again, some golf hustler he thinks he can
Speaker 1: beat me, I'm not gonna play for solid gold golf clubs.
Speaker 1: They'd be heavy. Here's what I hate about all these books, though,
Speaker 1: and I hate slippery when you're sweating. I hate discussing
Speaker 1: these books. I hate all these books, and not just
Speaker 1: the political ones, because there's been lots of them, people
Speaker 1: who only do the right thing when they're going to
Speaker 1: profit from it. And it happens all the freaking time,
Speaker 1: whether you were on the bicycling team with Lance Armstrong
Speaker 1: or or your FBI director Ray and uh you remember
Speaker 1: he said in the sixty Minutes interview they were considering
Speaker 1: invoking the amendment or whatever that is to remove the
Speaker 1: president because he's crazy, which wasn't even in the book,
Speaker 1: but you said it on television to sell the book.
Speaker 1: So and and then Bolton saying the impeachment inquiry missed
Speaker 1: other troubling episod then show up to the impeachment inquiry
Speaker 1: and tell the people trying to impeach the president what happened.
Speaker 1: You think these things are so damaging, you think the
Speaker 1: guy is so unqualified, you had the opportunity to play
Speaker 1: a role in removing him, then do it, you freaking weasel.
Speaker 1: These people are such low lives. Yeah, well, even if
Speaker 1: you want to make all the arguments that what he
Speaker 1: says is true, fine, go ahead, I don't care. But
Speaker 1: he is a weasel of the most weaseling character. He's saying,
Speaker 1: the most powerful man in the world is not fit
Speaker 1: for the office. It's obvious you had a chance to
Speaker 1: play a role in removing him and you didn't. Why
Speaker 1: because you're gonna make more money if you waited and
Speaker 1: put it in a book that is so that is
Speaker 1: so unpatriotic. You shouldn't be held up as anything but
Speaker 1: a disgrace. That's embarrassing. It is fairly amusing the way
Speaker 1: the Democrats are holding their nose while they tout the
Speaker 1: book and what he says, because they are so angry
Speaker 1: at him for holding off, holding back until his book
Speaker 1: was out, because they wanted him to testify at the
Speaker 1: ridiculously rushed and show body impeachment thing, and he just no,
Speaker 1: not I'm busy that day. He just wouldn't cooperate in
Speaker 1: any way, wouldn't test it. We didn't say a word.
Speaker 1: Comy did the same thing lots and have done the
Speaker 1: same thing. If you have something so Tyllerson did the
Speaker 1: same thing as Secretarist State, you have something so damaging
Speaker 1: that's going on behind the scenes, then you you call
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, or you get a bunch of microphones
Speaker 1: around you and you say it out loud, You resign
Speaker 1: in protest, or something be a freaking patriot if that's
Speaker 1: what you actually believe, or did you not think it
Speaker 1: was that big a deal and you've ooked it up
Speaker 1: a little bit to sell a book now that one, Well,
Speaker 1: what's the disconnect is the portrayals are so dramatic in
Speaker 1: the books and so black and white and so horrifying.
Speaker 1: If they were that way, you would have said something
Speaker 1: or done something if you're a real patriot as a
Speaker 1: those to a you know, would be a star author.
Speaker 1: And so either these people are morally reprehensible, as you
Speaker 1: were suggesting, or the stuff in a book is jazzed
Speaker 1: up and made extra exciting and at the time you
Speaker 1: were thinking, I don't think this is a good decision,
Speaker 1: but he's the president. We'll see how it goes. Man,
Speaker 1: if it's true, you gotta you gotta resign and go
Speaker 1: to a microphone and tell people. I just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get that. You know, I suppose if a well,
Speaker 1: I think you do get it. I think you've explained
Speaker 1: it quite nicely. You can't relate to it. It's not
Speaker 1: more complicated than that. No, No, I don't think it
Speaker 1: is at all. Book publisher calls you and says, you know,
Speaker 1: if you laid this out in book for him, and
Speaker 1: we had a real big build up to it, and
Speaker 1: we time it right. You can make six million dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh boy. I'm working on my Jack Armstrongs Are Rotten
Speaker 1: Human Being book right now. I'm gonna get my first
Speaker 1: draft started. Uh Taco Bell employee fired over Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter mask. I think this is wearing it or not
Speaker 1: wearing it or employee employee war. It got fired because
Speaker 1: it goes goes against her policy. But the manager who
Speaker 1: intervened is in big trouble and political trouble. And so
Speaker 1: the reason I think this is a story is because
Speaker 1: every company in America could be dealing with this situation
Speaker 1: which day or next week. Why they're frantically virtue signal.
Speaker 1: A little more on that coming up the Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getting Show. Some of our favorite syrups are under the gun.
Speaker 1: I hadn't. I don't believe I'd ever thought for a
Speaker 1: second about and Jemima and it going away is fine
Speaker 1: with me. I don't care. I just I've I've I've
Speaker 1: had Jemima serp in my whole life, but I'd never
Speaker 1: put any thought into any of it. Name your corn syrup,
Speaker 1: something else that's fine. Um, but if it has racist
Speaker 1: origins or whatever, you get rid of it or whatever.
Speaker 1: But so um. Then I heard Mr Mrs Mrs Butterworth's
Speaker 1: is under pressure now and Canagara Brands this is, according
Speaker 1: to Chicago Business is reviewing Mrs Butterworth's imagery. And I thought,
Speaker 1: what's Mrs Buttersworth? I mean I could picture Aunt Jemima
Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, I guess that is that racist
Speaker 1: or Rachel Ruter word's a black woman on there. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is. I've never thought about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think about these things. Maybe some of you do. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what it says in the in the Business report
Speaker 1: about this. Uh. ConAgra Brands announced the review of its
Speaker 1: Mrs Butterworth's brand hours after rival syrup and pancake mixed
Speaker 1: brand Aunt Jemima said it was removing the imagery of
Speaker 1: a black woman from its packaging. Mrs Butterworth's origin and
Speaker 1: race have never been specified by the brand, but the
Speaker 1: dark coloring of the of the syrup in the clear
Speaker 1: bottle gives many people the idea she is meant to
Speaker 1: represent a black woman, as clearly syrup blackish dark is
Speaker 1: kind of yes, obviously, because it's a clear bottle and
Speaker 1: syrup is the color it is, there's an assumption that
Speaker 1: it might be a black woman. And if it were
Speaker 1: a black woman, why can't it be a black woman?
Speaker 1: I feel like some of this, like I said yesterday,
Speaker 1: I feel like if you introduced ant Jemima today, you
Speaker 1: could spin it as or what we're saying is, you know,
Speaker 1: black moms had great recipes back in the day too, right.
Speaker 1: It's it's not affirmative action, but it's I feel like
Speaker 1: if Mrs Butterworth was obviously white, there'll be pressure for
Speaker 1: only white moms can have great syrup because there's there's
Speaker 1: no claim of Mrs Butterworth venus slave or anything. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't claim of it being anything. I've eaten in
Speaker 1: a couple of black run diners in d C. That
Speaker 1: is the best food I've ever had in my life,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would think, yeah, heck yeah, is that
Speaker 1: what they're going for? I don't know what you know, Jack,
Speaker 1: have always assumed that the honey bear, which is you know,
Speaker 1: the honey container that she squeeze the honey out of,
Speaker 1: that's bear shaped. I've always assumed it was a grizzly
Speaker 1: because it was roughly honeycoat. No, I haven't assumed anything.
Speaker 1: I used to do a hilarious bit for my kids
Speaker 1: with the honey bear. Though, yeah, I wish I had
Speaker 1: a video of it. It's like that movie with which
Speaker 1: movie is that with the talking bear ted O? No,
Speaker 1: like The Revenant where Leo fought a bear? No, No,
Speaker 1: not really. I would the honey bear. It's important that
Speaker 1: some of the honey was missing from it, and uh
Speaker 1: and I would have the honey bear walking and talking
Speaker 1: on the table and doing a character voice and all,
Speaker 1: and then I'd say, then I'd have the honey bear
Speaker 1: whirl on one of my kids. You're looking at me?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at me? That makes me so mad?
Speaker 1: And then I'd squeeze it in. The honey would rise
Speaker 1: up and cover his face like he was turning wreck
Speaker 1: with anger. Great looking at me cracked him up. Honey
Speaker 1: bear bit. Mrs Butterworth Syrup was introduced in ninete. The
Speaker 1: syrup comes in a bottle shaped like a woman. The
Speaker 1: character talks and seemingly a woman shaped like that needs
Speaker 1: to get to the gym shaped like a woman. Wow,
Speaker 1: now body shape not know? Plenty of women are not
Speaker 1: shaped like that bottle piling on the racism with body shape.
Speaker 1: Not wake up, thank you, that's Joe Biden there, folks.
Speaker 1: Um Mrs Butterworth claims that they're just trying to evoke
Speaker 1: the images of a loving grandmother. We stand and that
Speaker 1: we stand in solidarity with black and brown communities. The
Speaker 1: fact that they feel the need to even respond to this.
Speaker 1: It's not even a it's not a person who. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have a color, it's not in anything. Right. Might
Speaker 1: somebody think we might have thought maybe back in the day,
Speaker 1: is the color of syrup a right? So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to decide. Uh. One of our beloved listeners turned us
Speaker 1: on too well the email this mail bag and I'm
Speaker 1: strong in getty dot com to a Tracy Morgan bit
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live a number of years ago, Uncle
Speaker 1: Jemima's pure mesh liquor. I haven't, but it's funny. I
Speaker 1: just I just watched it, and it is indeed funny.
Speaker 1: What year think, double lot? I think the year two
Speaker 1: thousand and it's still on YouTube and and Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live controls all your SNL clips on your day. They
Speaker 1: only allow them on there if they want them on
Speaker 1: their right. Um and it it seems partly to be
Speaker 1: mocking the like Disney Song of the South, image of
Speaker 1: black folk in the South, but it's also rather a
Speaker 1: hard edged like, well, how do I how do I
Speaker 1: put this without ending my career? It's rather critical of
Speaker 1: old black drunks too, in that Tracy Morgan way. Um
Speaker 1: and it's it's quite funny, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: we do it our helves any good. Maybe google it,
Speaker 1: Uncle Jemima, I'm sorry bing it. Google is evil. Uncle
Speaker 1: Jemima's pure mash liquor. So we'll get to Joe Biden
Speaker 1: came out of his spidy hole yesterday and gave a
Speaker 1: little speech and some people think he sounded a little
Speaker 1: low energy. Will let you decide. And uh, the taco
Speaker 1: bell thing. We have audio from the manager dealing with
Speaker 1: the employee with the mask. Is that what that is? Sean?
Speaker 1: And boy, you might be dealing with this at your workplace.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty