WEBVTT - A&G On Demand Thursday June 18 Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>How to deal with masked me, among other important things

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<v Speaker 1>will be dealing with this hour. I'm sorry, did you

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<v Speaker 1>just make up a word mask me? It's like acne,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a skin irritation due to wearing your mask

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, so they call it mask me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're tracking mask I think you're tracking with I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. Um As masks become, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like even more more prevalent around the country. UM More

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<v Speaker 1>on that later. Also, a Supreme Court opinion has just

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<v Speaker 1>come out on young undocumented immigrants. I'm seeing breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>banners around on my phone and stuff like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a chance to look at what that is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to go to the places that actually know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're taught thinking about it, because virtually everything you

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<v Speaker 1>hear for the next forty minutes or so on mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media will be incorrect or badly interpreted. We will have

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<v Speaker 1>to dip back into the Joe Biden came out of

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<v Speaker 1>his spiky hole yesterday and did a little talking and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how that went. Thank you, Oh boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that has an emotional effect on me. Hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're hearing a man who is near the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. He can barely get his breath out.

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<v Speaker 1>Check him for the COVID. Oh, that reminds me. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a note from a bloke in Phoenix. Where is

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<v Speaker 1>it there? It is, I'll just keep him anonymous. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to do some flying and uh. And he flew

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth um from Phoenix to Salt Lake City,

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<v Speaker 1>and not long after he starts feeling sicker than he's

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<v Speaker 1>ever felt. And while his email is ridiculously long al

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<v Speaker 1>cheese three full pages, he describes the drama of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a COVID test and he's he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with his county, he's trying to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>CVS that is allegedly allegedly doing tests, and his efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to to just line up a test going for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>days and he's getting the run around. Finally shows up

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<v Speaker 1>at the CVS. It's empty, there's nobody there, but they

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<v Speaker 1>say you have to have an appointment. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just do me now you're didn't. Now you've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make an appointment. So he tries to make an

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<v Speaker 1>appointment and they say and and then he gets kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the system and he goes back and they say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the system is not working, and it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was like your your worst government healthcare nightmare. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor. I thought they were. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>if you had symptoms, they would like run you to

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<v Speaker 1>the tests. I don't think that's enough to depend a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid email. I think he would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>exploit the uh, you know the opportunities that are out there. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like a nightmare to me. Other places

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<v Speaker 1>you just drive up, I guess. Um. There was an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt in the city of Portland to get a chairs

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<v Speaker 1>going apparently late last night and early this morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was broken up quickly by authorities, even in Portland

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they realized if you if they if

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<v Speaker 1>they get a toe hold, then it's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nightmare and we don't want to deal with that, even

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<v Speaker 1>if we agree with some of their stuff, that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>my guess. Uh, you just you just don't want what

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle is dealing with. And so it was broken up

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly into Portland doesn't at least as of now,

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<v Speaker 1>has no chairs. Wow, but they still have a chairs

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<v Speaker 1>Where Chaz exists in Seattle, it is Chaz, it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>surprising that that Portland would move so swiftly. Could it

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<v Speaker 1>be that they witnessed Freeattle's descent into psychosis? And even

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<v Speaker 1>the way lefties who were in Portland said, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>bridge too far. We don't have autonomous zones in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>We have ten cities and crazy people in bums shooting

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<v Speaker 1>up on corners, stopping traffic regularly, and we let them

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<v Speaker 1>get away with it, right right, But that that would

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<v Speaker 1>be too much apparently, well, okay, that's fine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer they are even less crazy than they are

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<v Speaker 1>because I love Portland. But um, anyway, that's an interesting development.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to our friends at Scotus blog, uh docca oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority said The majority of the Supreme Court said

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<v Speaker 1>the decision to determine to terminate DOCCA was arbitrary and

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<v Speaker 1>capricious because the Acting Secretary's decision to terminate the program

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the legality of the benefits associated with DOCCA, but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't discuss forbearance the decision to defer removal or whether

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<v Speaker 1>there was legitimate reliance on the DOCCA memory blah blah blah. Legally,

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<v Speaker 1>so this DOCCA stands for now and what is its

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<v Speaker 1>current situation. It's uh, you don't get deported if you

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<v Speaker 1>were brought to the country as a kid, Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>that will law. And the acting Secretary of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, had called for the end of DOCCA and

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<v Speaker 1>the soup said no, and that will continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>the law of the day. Yeah for now. Um. Clarence

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas descended he's unhappy under the auspices of today's decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Administrations can bind their successors by unlawfully adopting significant legal

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<v Speaker 1>changes through executive branch agency memoranda. Oh listen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it. This is a little more pithy. Today's decision

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<v Speaker 1>must be recognized for what it is, an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a politically controversial but legally correct decision. That's old,

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Thomas. Interesting the number out today, This happens every Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>One point five million workers claimed jobless benefits last week,

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<v Speaker 1>marking eleventh straight week of declines, which is a positive

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<v Speaker 1>spin and and it is true, but it's still an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary number. Um. Yeah, that's new, claims the feel or

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<v Speaker 1>at least you know in my part of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what I read, is that okay, we're opening

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<v Speaker 1>back up. The economy is going again. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're figuring out the social distancing and masks and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. We're trying to do it smart.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're absolutely now moving forward. The idea that one

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<v Speaker 1>point five million new people filed that's rough man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>businesses that just ran out of gas. How probably, the

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<v Speaker 1>Fed Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said today he's already said

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<v Speaker 1>that the worst of the economic crisis caused by the

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<v Speaker 1>coronavirus could nearly be over as businesses are reopening across

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<v Speaker 1>the country. We may be reaching a bottom on that

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<v Speaker 1>that now. So we're at the bottom right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he's right along the bottom lasts. I don't know, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the question. The V shape recovery versus the

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<v Speaker 1>U shaped jack or the feared hockey stick, or it

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<v Speaker 1>just goes straight for a long time at a low level.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. We'll have to find out. Can can

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<v Speaker 1>I hear our Joe Biden clip again? Wake Up? Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>hands that wake up needs to be a regular part

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<v Speaker 1>of the intro to the show. I used to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Wake Up, wake Up, wake Up is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I'm trying to understand. The scenario was that

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<v Speaker 1>one man who didn't quite succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning

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<v Speaker 1>urging another man who has to wake up? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy near death apparently wake up. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman who has found asleep in his car in the garage,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. Yeah, he hed falling asleep after starting his car,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's at the risk of death. And I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a gut caveman reaction to that. I hear

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<v Speaker 1>a man near death, I'm serious, and what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I got his final wishes. What I'd

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<v Speaker 1>really like to know is was there a decision made

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<v Speaker 1>like you talked about tow like really low key at

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<v Speaker 1>things are frantic Pole Show people are being exhausted by

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<v Speaker 1>the new cycle. I am. I just talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife last night. Yes, I said, I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't handle this anymore. The new cycle is killing me.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, I don't even look anymore. I know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just your your brain reaches a point where you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't take any more stimulus, and it's it's a protective

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism um to to ignore it and shut it down

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not like a bear trying to eat one

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<v Speaker 1>of my children. Right now, I have to block it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to can you do of a sabbatical in

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<v Speaker 1>the the entertainment business where you just go away for

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<v Speaker 1>six months? How about folks, listen, we'll be back in

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<v Speaker 1>late October. We're just gonna take a couple of months off.

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<v Speaker 1>But so so we don't go psychotic. But my question is,

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<v Speaker 1>did they coach Biden on that and say extra low

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<v Speaker 1>key yes, or did he just come out and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just what he sounded like yesterday. Well they give him

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<v Speaker 1>a pep talk and say high energy, and he came

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<v Speaker 1>out like this, thank you. I tell you what. It

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<v Speaker 1>is clear his strategy is to be old, calming, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>old bipartisan, middle of the road Gio all this craziness

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump place, come on, everybody, return to normal times.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the sixties. Those were a good time, right? Maybe not?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a bad example. It was the sixties when

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<v Speaker 1>I got elected to the Senate for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a hundred anyway, it's it's clearly a strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know whether he just went a little

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<v Speaker 1>too far there, or if he's actually got to one

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<v Speaker 1>foot in the grave. He sounds like he's dying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a tangent um. I've heard a couple of people point

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<v Speaker 1>this out recently, and it's absolutely true, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth keeping in mind when we have all these

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<v Speaker 1>discussions when people refer to the sixties, what they really

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<v Speaker 1>mean is like sixties seven through seventy three. That's people

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<v Speaker 1>mean when they refer to the sixties. I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>The bulk of the sixties, sixty through sixty seven, we're

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<v Speaker 1>quite placid um and like old tiny America here summer

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<v Speaker 1>a of nineteen sixty seven thing was mostly amusing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really like sixties seven through the early seventies is what

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<v Speaker 1>people mean by the turbulent, chaotic hippie music, drugs, craziness,

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<v Speaker 1>right bombing sixties. Yeah, yep, agreed um. But I thought

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<v Speaker 1>another thing on the interview with Robert Gates yesterday, former

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<v Speaker 1>SEC deaf, former CIA chief worked under geez what seven

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<v Speaker 1>different presidents or something like that, old guy being around

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and asked, is this as crazy as

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<v Speaker 1>has ever been? And he said, yeah, absolutely, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just you know, in the imagination of the young,

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder I'm so exhausted. Yeah, it's as crazy as

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<v Speaker 1>it's been in a very very long time. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>found this kind of calming. A Fortune survey of CEOs

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<v Speaker 1>and some of their attitudes right now about changing their

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<v Speaker 1>companies for racial stuff or the economy in different things

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<v Speaker 1>I found quite interesting. Among other things we could get to,

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<v Speaker 1>we also had a number of people weighing in about

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<v Speaker 1>their wives or husbands in the way they react when

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing the uh, the non driving portion of going somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>the backseat driver. Oh no, myrtle strife. I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that. Our text line is four one to nine

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<v Speaker 1>five k f TC art Strong and the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty Show. I suppose at some point out to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the Bolton book, that is, is it's Outer or not Outer? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not out officially, but all sorts of copies have been.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. Nobody reads these books. People dig through

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<v Speaker 1>to get the juicy chunks the back of their narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody talks about them like crazy for two days,

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<v Speaker 1>for for a day and a half, and then nobody

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<v Speaker 1>reads a minute. It goes away. That's what happens book

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<v Speaker 1>after book after book, yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe next segment. Okay, there's some interesting stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the fact, well what's most notable to me

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<v Speaker 1>is that everybody on all sides is kicking John Bolton

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<v Speaker 1>for being a weasel. Um. But anyway, more of that

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<v Speaker 1>to come quick aside, The left is so good at

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<v Speaker 1>at imposing um, how we talk about things. Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>way better than the right. And it's bothered me for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. For instance, I'm in the the lunch

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<v Speaker 1>room getting some caffeine juice and Fox News is reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on the docket decision that just came down, and they

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the docket recipients as dreamers, dreamers get to

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<v Speaker 1>stay or whatever. That That is a term, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pr spin term invented by the left to make all

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<v Speaker 1>of this could be against a dreamer of this brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we suggested calling doctor recipients precious fairy

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<v Speaker 1>dust angels. I mean, that's only slightly more ridiculous than dreamers.

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News has adopted that in that verbiage, that nomenclature.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a win if you're that belief. Yep, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned his fiancee, uh, making noises while he was driving,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was afraid something horrible had happened. We got

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<v Speaker 1>this text my wife taught me. Gasping and grasping the

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<v Speaker 1>dash with both hands without explanation, unnerves every driver, including

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<v Speaker 1>this great one. So she's a gasp and grasp the

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<v Speaker 1>dash with both hands. My wife does that fairly regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife has done that too. I have urged her repeatedly. Sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>if we are in danger, the last thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>world you want to do is lean forward, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let your let your belt keep you in place. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and not danger, by the way. Uh oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look around everything like that, and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>spilled an ice cream car ice cream cone. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>that experience anytime we're about to be hit by a track.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, somebody spilled something in the backseat. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>need we need different sound effects for these things. Exactly

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<v Speaker 1>internal issue, not external threat. Um Fortune Survey of eos

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<v Speaker 1>planned policy changes in response to the current calls for

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<v Speaker 1>racial justice. This is a survey of CEOs around the

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<v Speaker 1>country on a number of topics, but six policy changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Due to the social unrest. There's hardly a website. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to whether it's genes or music or whatever, where

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have some sort of hashtag we're with the

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<v Speaker 1>protests or lots of we support Black Lives Matter, which

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<v Speaker 1>shocks me because if you go to Black Lives Matter website,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of stuff on there that the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the country absolutely does not support UM. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me that mainstream outlets are so free with

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<v Speaker 1>their support of of that. Well, I think just to

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of trouble. Every stovetop stuffing and running shoe

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<v Speaker 1>and gene and guitar string is just making it clear

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<v Speaker 1>we're down with it. Are there are people that actually

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<v Speaker 1>look for that and won't do business with a corporation

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't posted something like because I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>of it. If I need to buy something, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>that's privilege. Maybe it is the numbers in white gene,

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<v Speaker 1>is that any wears them tight. That percentage goes up

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<v Speaker 1>as the age goes down. The younger the consumer, the

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<v Speaker 1>more likely they already care about they're looking on the

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<v Speaker 1>website to see if they've made a stand. They have

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<v Speaker 1>really internalized the voting with your dollar mantra of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that's why you see the targeting of advertisers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're aware of the financial power of collective. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. That's a change, you know, and maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>have Is it for the better? Where I I never

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<v Speaker 1>have an I doubt that I'm going to change At

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<v Speaker 1>this point in my life. I don't think about the

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<v Speaker 1>politics of the company's I do business with. I just

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<v Speaker 1>it never crosses my mind. But the next generation it

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<v Speaker 1>might be very important to them. Uh of ceo say

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<v Speaker 1>revenues have already recovered or never dropped. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>Fortune magazine, so they're trying to have a positive spin, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of ceo say revenues have recovered were never dropped. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's only that leaves out an awful lot of companies

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<v Speaker 1>said they didn't drop them, have not recovered it. Some

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<v Speaker 1>say won't recover in the foreseeable future only four per cent,

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<v Speaker 1>but almost half expect the recovery to recur between January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one in June, so they put the bad news

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom. But almost half of the cd CEOs

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<v Speaker 1>think the recovery won't occur for like a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Not good, No, No, I thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting seventies seven percent of ceo say their company's digital

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<v Speaker 1>transformation was significantly accelerated during the economic crisis. That rings

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<v Speaker 1>so true. Sure, so you were headed toward this with

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<v Speaker 1>computers and skyping and all this sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, the highest priority get this

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<v Speaker 1>going right now. Well and listen, there's there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of inertia, or call it momentum if you want, in

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<v Speaker 1>businessmum momentum. That's right, the president, I'm playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament this weekend. That's our team slogan. Momentum. But

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta shout it or write it in all caps

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<v Speaker 1>like the president is. But there's a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>momentum in business. Things exist just because they have existed.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to do tomorrow what they did yesterday just

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<v Speaker 1>because they did it yesterday. And with lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>either furloughed or or at home, is a little less significant.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of businesses are finding out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little better with the furloughed people here,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that much better. I think we just won't

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<v Speaker 1>bring them back. You're gonna see sustained unemployment for that

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<v Speaker 1>reason for a long time, and you could argue that

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<v Speaker 1>it's making businesses lean or mean or more effective in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases. Um, but yeah, I think that's really going

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<v Speaker 1>to delay the bounce back because they had to find

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<v Speaker 1>out just how important all of us were and some

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<v Speaker 1>of us not so much. I'm talking about us. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys need a cool off, because this is not the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't handle a world war right now. We're already

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with so many things. Coronavirus, economies are tanking, global

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<v Speaker 1>protests are happening, and at any minute more Hollywood actors

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<v Speaker 1>could release one of those black and white videos. Nah. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, I've got one of those. That's just terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to play later, one of those I'm a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>you should take me seriously videos. Apparently word has not

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<v Speaker 1>penetrated their thick, thick film of self importance that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants that China versus India, it seems calmish for right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope the third and fourth biggest military in the

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<v Speaker 1>world squaring off killing each other over the weekend. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this common time is when they put more nails in

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<v Speaker 1>the bats. Yeah, apparently heard up for the next battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I heard it. Described by a pretty sober

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<v Speaker 1>commentator as a gang war, that they're just they they patrol,

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<v Speaker 1>they see each other occasionally, they you know, maybe shout

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<v Speaker 1>stuff at each other, and they hate each other just

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<v Speaker 1>because they're on the other side. And these guys just

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<v Speaker 1>they interrupted into fists and sticks and whatever, and they

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<v Speaker 1>beat the hell out of each other. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to in the Chinese side one. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the Indians were out numbered or just aren't good

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<v Speaker 1>enough fight or what. I hadn't meant to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was listening to a podcast yesterday with one

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<v Speaker 1>of what I'm told the best Chinese experts in in

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<v Speaker 1>America aren't think tanks constantly in communication with with the Chinese. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, military, etcetera, etcetera, and uh. And this woman said,

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to move on Taiwan. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of when she is gonna move on Taiwan. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said she's talked to people in the Chinese military

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<v Speaker 1>who have said, what's America gonna do? They can't stop

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<v Speaker 1>us at this point. Their belief is we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the will or the ability to stop them from do

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. They don't think we've got the military might

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<v Speaker 1>to stop them from doing something like that, honestly on

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<v Speaker 1>both counts. And she said, whether they're right or wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big dilemma because they could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>that means they're still going to do it and uh right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'd be a heck of a thing to find out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who's right. One of our emailers referred to

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<v Speaker 1>a president she is Winnie the Poo's stunt double stunt

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<v Speaker 1>double uh, which I thought was very funny. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea, well, in terms of could we stop them,

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<v Speaker 1>I say no, because, with all due respect to the

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<v Speaker 1>might of the American Navy, it's like, um, if if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, uh, Staten Island were a rebel territory

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, I mean we could we could

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<v Speaker 1>decide all right, let's take it all right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes later we'd be overrunning it. And if some

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<v Speaker 1>other country was unhappy about it, well they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get there in time. It'd be fatal complete.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you'd have to like invade it get it back,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no way we have the will to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this fits in a little bit. We're we

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<v Speaker 1>would just sanction uh, the Beijing out of them for

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<v Speaker 1>the next ten years or whatever. That could be our

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<v Speaker 1>only response if I'm gonna be honest about it, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>And then what does that look like? The crazy cyber warfare?

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<v Speaker 1>And what does that say to the world? What does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like in the world stage? That is an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement that, Okay, there are two coequal militaries out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that just a statement of that? No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so, just because of the geographic reality of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever look at a map, I mean, China

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<v Speaker 1>is this enormous country and then you squint your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and you see Taiwan is this little island that's right

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<v Speaker 1>next to I mean, right there, and they go, but

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<v Speaker 1>just gobble it up? Now? Will we let them fully

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<v Speaker 1>militarize the South China? See? No way, They've wanted Taiwan

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<v Speaker 1>for seventy five years. It's always been a tiny speck

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<v Speaker 1>right off of China. They didn't take it before because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't think they could. According to this person's interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with military people, they can now. So that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a change in uh in situation um. And it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fits in with the Bolton book. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about little bit the Wall Street Journal. Of course, they

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<v Speaker 1>picked out part of the Bolton book where he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>some things that were somewhat flattering the President Trump. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>want those to sneak into the media. But on how

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's happy that Trump recognizes the situation with

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<v Speaker 1>China um and Bolton is way more you know, hawk

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<v Speaker 1>ish that direction, and he talks about past presidents and

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff, But he was, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>how we everybody understands this now. Secretary Gates talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday in an interview. The world made a bet

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<v Speaker 1>that if we let China run run free their econot

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<v Speaker 1>with their economics, screwing everybody around the world, at least

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<v Speaker 1>as their economy grows, they'll become nicer and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff didn't work. Bad idea it's over didn't

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<v Speaker 1>help at all. All they did was build a very

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<v Speaker 1>frightening military with a very frightening attitude. But this expert,

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<v Speaker 1>this expert, she said, the idea that they would uh

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<v Speaker 1>that they that the middle class would take over and

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<v Speaker 1>they'd open up and they'd get calmer, was was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>She said. What was also wrong, and in retrospect really wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this idea that you can tell somebody, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow you to be number two as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you want, you can be a good, solid number two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're doing. Doesn't that make you feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody feels good being told we're going to allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to be second best. Nobody actually wants to be vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't take that deal in a second. I had

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<v Speaker 1>never thought of it that way before, But that was

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<v Speaker 1>what what the United States was saying to China. We're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely in favor of you becoming number two, the second

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<v Speaker 1>best economy and the second best of this, and the

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<v Speaker 1>second best that. And then they thought, when we're not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in big number two, we want to be number one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I suppose maybe, you know, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>I buy that argument, because there are plenty of countries

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<v Speaker 1>that seem fine with being number seventeen. But maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>you're number two, you smell number one and sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be it. But what's interesting is China's

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<v Speaker 1>wealth enabled it to double down on its aggressive totalitarian impulses.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the opposite of what all of us hoped

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<v Speaker 1>would happen. You know, back in the great opening of China,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh dialogue, um or you know the narrative. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Bolton's book is coming out any day, although the Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Department is suing. I'm saying he violated his nondisclosure agreements

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in the rest of it, but so much of it

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<v Speaker 1>is leaked out it's it's become a moot point anyway. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, a couple of things bother me about

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<v Speaker 1>the coverage. Number One, Bolton thinks Trump isn't good at

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy and doesn't know enough about it. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you either agree or you don't agree, or you think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still better in the alternative, that's fine. What bothers

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<v Speaker 1>me about the coverage of it is that it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a game of telephone it. The things that the

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<v Speaker 1>book actually says are getting characterized and recharacterized um in

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<v Speaker 1>the media. For instance, UM. One passage that's just getting

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<v Speaker 1>flogged is uh. Bolton writes that Trump was quote pleading

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<v Speaker 1>with she to ensure he'd win the reelection. But Bolton

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<v Speaker 1>said he could not print the president's exact words because

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<v Speaker 1>of the government's prepublication review process. So pleading with she

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure he'd win what do you actually say. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if if he said, you know, it would really help

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<v Speaker 1>our farmers, that would help me politically. I could get reelected.

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<v Speaker 1>We could keep going down that path. I don't find

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<v Speaker 1>that a particularly obnoxious or or wrong. Bolton says Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was was obsessed with getting re elected to the exclusion of,

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<v Speaker 1>like America's good, what would really serve America? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that's Bolton's opinion. That would be in the ivy

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<v Speaker 1>beholder on an instant by instant basis. But you remember

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the famous Obama video of I'll have more freedom after

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<v Speaker 1>the election. He was not doing something that would hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his re election chances and tell him the leader of Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll do I can do it after the election,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't do it now because it would hurt

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<v Speaker 1>my chance of getting reelected. Lots of presidents have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very common thing to do, might be unfortunate,

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>might be an stream. You might cross a line where

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's extreme, But I don't know. I'd have to know

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the instance by instance, right decision right um. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other one that that bothered me is that in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>Bolton says he's asked, what did Putin think of Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bolton says, I think Putin thought he could play

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<v Speaker 1>Trump like a fiddle, which evolved on NBC News and

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<v Speaker 1>NPR This Morning to Bolton thought Putin could play Trump

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<v Speaker 1>like a fiddle. When Bolton was describing what he thought,

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Putin thought, and Putin thought he could play Obama like

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<v Speaker 1>a fiddle. And he thought he could play George W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush like a fiddle. He's a pretty good fiddler too,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Putin, I'll put a fiddle of gold

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>against your soul. If you think you're better than me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm pretty bad. Um. Here's the part that

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<v Speaker 1>I hate and why I don't really want to discuss this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that be incredibly heavy? Even think you'd be resonant

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>at all? Can we just do like a cash bed?

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if I'm getting into some if I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>come up again, some golf hustler he thinks he can

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<v Speaker 1>beat me, I'm not gonna play for solid gold golf clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd be heavy. Here's what I hate about all these books, though,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and I hate slippery when you're sweating. I hate discussing

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>these books. I hate all these books, and not just

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the political ones, because there's been lots of them, people

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>who only do the right thing when they're going to

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>profit from it. And it happens all the freaking time,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you were on the bicycling team with Lance Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>or or your FBI director Ray and uh you remember

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>he said in the sixty Minutes interview they were considering

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>invoking the amendment or whatever that is to remove the

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>president because he's crazy, which wasn't even in the book,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>but you said it on television to sell the book.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>So and and then Bolton saying the impeachment inquiry missed

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>other troubling episod then show up to the impeachment inquiry

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and tell the people trying to impeach the president what happened.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You think these things are so damaging, you think the

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<v Speaker 1>guy is so unqualified, you had the opportunity to play

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<v Speaker 1>a role in removing him, then do it, you freaking weasel.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>These people are such low lives. Yeah, well, even if

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to make all the arguments that what he

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>says is true, fine, go ahead, I don't care. But

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he is a weasel of the most weaseling character. He's saying,

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the most powerful man in the world is not fit

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<v Speaker 1>for the office. It's obvious you had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>play a role in removing him and you didn't. Why

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna make more money if you waited and

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>put it in a book that is so that is

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>so unpatriotic. You shouldn't be held up as anything but

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>a disgrace. That's embarrassing. It is fairly amusing the way

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are holding their nose while they tout the

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<v Speaker 1>book and what he says, because they are so angry

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>at him for holding off, holding back until his book

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was out, because they wanted him to testify at the

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>ridiculously rushed and show body impeachment thing, and he just no,

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>not I'm busy that day. He just wouldn't cooperate in

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>any way, wouldn't test it. We didn't say a word.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Comy did the same thing lots and have done the

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>same thing. If you have something so Tyllerson did the

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>same thing as Secretarist State, you have something so damaging

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that's going on behind the scenes, then you you call

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post, or you get a bunch of microphones

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<v Speaker 1>around you and you say it out loud, You resign

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in protest, or something be a freaking patriot if that's

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>what you actually believe, or did you not think it

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was that big a deal and you've ooked it up

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit to sell a book now that one, Well,

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the disconnect is the portrayals are so dramatic in

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the books and so black and white and so horrifying.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>If they were that way, you would have said something

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>or done something if you're a real patriot as a

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>those to a you know, would be a star author.

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And so either these people are morally reprehensible, as you

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>were suggesting, or the stuff in a book is jazzed

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>up and made extra exciting and at the time you

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>were thinking, I don't think this is a good decision,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>but he's the president. We'll see how it goes. Man,

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if it's true, you gotta you gotta resign and go

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to a microphone and tell people. I just I don't.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't get that. You know, I suppose if a well,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you do get it. I think you've explained

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it quite nicely. You can't relate to it. It's not

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>more complicated than that. No, No, I don't think it

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>is at all. Book publisher calls you and says, you know,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>if you laid this out in book for him, and

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>we had a real big build up to it, and

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>we time it right. You can make six million dollars.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy. I'm working on my Jack Armstrongs Are Rotten

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Human Being book right now. I'm gonna get my first

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>draft started. Uh Taco Bell employee fired over Black Lives

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Matter mask. I think this is wearing it or not

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>wearing it or employee employee war. It got fired because

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it goes goes against her policy. But the manager who

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>intervened is in big trouble and political trouble. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I think this is a story is because

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>every company in America could be dealing with this situation

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>which day or next week. Why they're frantically virtue signal.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>A little more on that coming up the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getting Show. Some of our favorite syrups are under the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't. I don't believe I'd ever thought for a

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<v Speaker 1>second about and Jemima and it going away is fine

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I don't care. I just I've I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>had Jemima serp in my whole life, but I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>put any thought into any of it. Name your corn syrup,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>something else that's fine. Um, but if it has racist

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>origins or whatever, you get rid of it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But so um. Then I heard Mr Mrs Mrs Butterworth's

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<v Speaker 1>is under pressure now and Canagara Brands this is, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Chicago Business is reviewing Mrs Butterworth's imagery. And I thought,

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>what's Mrs Buttersworth? I mean I could picture Aunt Jemima

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, okay, I guess that is that racist

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>or Rachel Ruter word's a black woman on there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what it is. I've never thought about it.

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think about these things. Maybe some of you do. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what it says in the in the Business report

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Uh. ConAgra Brands announced the review of its

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Butterworth's brand hours after rival syrup and pancake mixed

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>brand Aunt Jemima said it was removing the imagery of

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman from its packaging. Mrs Butterworth's origin and

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<v Speaker 1>race have never been specified by the brand, but the

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<v Speaker 1>dark coloring of the of the syrup in the clear

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>bottle gives many people the idea she is meant to

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<v Speaker 1>represent a black woman, as clearly syrup blackish dark is

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of yes, obviously, because it's a clear bottle and

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<v Speaker 1>syrup is the color it is, there's an assumption that

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it might be a black woman. And if it were

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman, why can't it be a black woman?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of this, like I said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you introduced ant Jemima today, you

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>could spin it as or what we're saying is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black moms had great recipes back in the day too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not affirmative action, but it's I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>if Mrs Butterworth was obviously white, there'll be pressure for

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<v Speaker 1>only white moms can have great syrup because there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>no claim of Mrs Butterworth venus slave or anything. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't claim of it being anything. I've eaten in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of black run diners in d C. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the best food I've ever had in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I would think, yeah, heck yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going for? I don't know what you know, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>have always assumed that the honey bear, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the honey container that she squeeze the honey out of,

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that's bear shaped. I've always assumed it was a grizzly

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>because it was roughly honeycoat. No, I haven't assumed anything.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I used to do a hilarious bit for my kids

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>with the honey bear. Though, yeah, I wish I had

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>a video of it. It's like that movie with which

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>movie is that with the talking bear ted O? No,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>like The Revenant where Leo fought a bear? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not really. I would the honey bear. It's important that

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the honey was missing from it, and uh

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and I would have the honey bear walking and talking

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>on the table and doing a character voice and all,

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>and then I'd say, then I'd have the honey bear

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<v Speaker 1>whirl on one of my kids. You're looking at me?

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you looking at me? That makes me so mad?

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>And then I'd squeeze it in. The honey would rise

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>up and cover his face like he was turning wreck

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>with anger. Great looking at me cracked him up. Honey

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 1>bear bit. Mrs Butterworth Syrup was introduced in ninete. The

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>syrup comes in a bottle shaped like a woman. The

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>character talks and seemingly a woman shaped like that needs

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to get to the gym shaped like a woman. Wow,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>now body shape not know? Plenty of women are not

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>shaped like that bottle piling on the racism with body shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Not wake up, thank you, that's Joe Biden there, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Mrs Butterworth claims that they're just trying to evoke

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<v Speaker 1>the images of a loving grandmother. We stand and that

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>we stand in solidarity with black and brown communities. The

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that they feel the need to even respond to this.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not even a it's not a person who. It

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a color, it's not in anything. Right. Might

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody think we might have thought maybe back in the day,

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is the color of syrup a right? So I'm trying

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to decide. Uh. One of our beloved listeners turned us

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on too well the email this mail bag and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>strong in getty dot com to a Tracy Morgan bit

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday Night Live a number of years ago, Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Jemima's pure mesh liquor. I haven't, but it's funny. I

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just I just watched it, and it is indeed funny.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>What year think, double lot? I think the year two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and it's still on YouTube and and Saturday Night

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Live controls all your SNL clips on your day. They

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>only allow them on there if they want them on

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>their right. Um and it it seems partly to be

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 1>mocking the like Disney Song of the South, image of

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>black folk in the South, but it's also rather a

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>hard edged like, well, how do I how do I

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>put this without ending my career? It's rather critical of

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>old black drunks too, in that Tracy Morgan way. Um

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's quite funny, but I don't know if

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we do it our helves any good. Maybe google it,

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Uncle Jemima, I'm sorry bing it. Google is evil. Uncle

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Jemima's pure mash liquor. So we'll get to Joe Biden

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>came out of his spidy hole yesterday and gave a

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>little speech and some people think he sounded a little

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>low energy. Will let you decide. And uh, the taco

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>bell thing. We have audio from the manager dealing with

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the employee with the mask. Is that what that is? Sean?

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And boy, you might be dealing with this at your workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty