1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Ron and I fixed the two thousand eight expedition. I've 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: been working on this car for two weeks now. For 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: those that say, Hi, what's the matter. You couldn't fix 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: up that fifth No, I didn't want to spend the 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: money that best. I gotta be Lettle jacket down call. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: I can make it that everything I'm broken down, the 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. The A B S controller was the big 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: ticket on item. And look at the price of it 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: bucks in one fell swoop and you can see that 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: with the amount of electronic being a through a call, 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: it's not getting any easier and not getting any cheaper. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage. Orders are open, but 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: five six and now he running start your engines in 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: a lower run in any in the car Doctor here 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: at the helm eight five five five six zero nine 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: nine zero zero where they could go round up. This 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: week it was boy, let me tell you I don't 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: know where to start. I wrote myself some notes, uh 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: to kick off this hour of the Car Doctor this week, 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping buy and you've got a lot 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: of choices. I appreciate you being here. I'm glad to 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: be here for you. Uh. You know, do we want 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: to talk about the obsolete seat on the two thousand 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: five mallet, but we'll talk about that today. Do we 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about the phone called? You know, do 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: you charge to look at cars? And the wise guy 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and me wanted to say, well, no, I look at 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: cars on the ride home, and I look at cars 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: on the way into work for free. What is it 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: that you want me to do? And you know it 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: was the check engine lights on and flashing. Well, yeah, 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: you need a diagnosis. Click. Um. We could talk about that. 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: We could also talk about, you know, as if the 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight A B S Hydrala control unit 40 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: on the expedition wasn't bad enough last week, the the 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: four thousand dollar break repair. By the time we did 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the breaks and the control unit and so on, we 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: should talk about the Toyota Sienna all wheel drive unit failure. 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: They real quick and then we'll go to the phone 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: because I say, we have Rick on Seattle from Seattle 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: on the phone. I just gotta tell you this story 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: real fast. We'll talk about that a little bit and 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: then this hour, the next hour, it's just it's insane. 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: And I guess you know, you've really got to learn 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: to look at how much was the car. A Toyota 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: ce in a minivan has got to be every bit 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: of fifty grand? Now, okay, I just I don't see them. 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: You know, they're not twenty thousand dollar vehicles thirty dollar 54 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: vehicles anymore. It started out with this loud, whining noise 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: and going down the road had a really deep like, 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: oh boy, something sounds like it's gonna fall out. The 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: old wheel drive unit. All right, this is an old 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: wheel drive van has you know, the rear differential, and 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: then they mount a here it is, this is this 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: is where we take the flux capacitor a out, folks, 61 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: and we do eighty eight miles an hour, and you're 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna see some serious stuff. Um. But it has an 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: electro magnetic viscus coupling, Oh boy, and that translates into bing, 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: here come the dollar signs, all right, because this this 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: electromagnetic viscus coupling. Say that three times fast, you'll end 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: up on Jeopardy. It was it just the part which 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: can't be any bigger. I mean, it's the size of 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the A, B S I draw a control unit from 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: the O eight expedition it was sixteen. I've come to 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: the conclusion if they can pack a lot of electronics 71 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: and into that size, it's now everything. Sixteen hundred dollars. 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: That seems to be the flat fee. Maybe that's what 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: it takes to feed the engineer's lunch on Tuesdays. I 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know that's the number they come up with, but 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, six hundred bucks. And you look at this 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: and you say, why, all right, you know, it's just 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: and in reality it's just. It's really just a large 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: wheel bearing, like a front wheel drive wheel bearing with 79 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: a hub and a flange that's splind into the ring 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and pinion going to the rear differential that ties it in. 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Then they use an electric switch they control it and 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: turn it on and off and pulse it so that 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: it can it can deal with you know, binding in 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: turns and things like that. And they make it a 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: make it a limited slip clutch in that sense. But uh, 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, if I was a Toyota saying a minivan driver, 87 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I'd be worried. Um, not that I want you to 88 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: get rid of Toyota's I think they're great cars, but 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: some of the things they do leave me scratching my head. 90 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Here's one that this is the second one we've done now. 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: It just happened to come right on the heels of 92 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: the hydraulic control unit for the expedition. That's got me 93 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: thinking about the price of repairs. But by the time 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you're done, it's it's every bit of It's just a 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: little over two grand for the Mommy mobile to take 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the kids back and forth. You know, it's just it's 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: getting more and more expensive to repair cars. I understand 98 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: where the phone count is up lately. It's um, it's 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: just it's just staggering. So I and I guess I 100 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: tell you that story, not not to you know, say 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Toyota is doing it wrong, because they're all expensive. Everything 102 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: is expensive. I say that story because you know you've 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: got to stop to look at as claw to you. 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: The owner of the van said, she said, Ron, it's 105 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: two grands, whatever she said, but look what it caused 106 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: me to replace it. It's fifty grand to replace that car. 107 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, I get it. It's a percentage thing. I 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: remember back in the days when I was in the 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: gas station with Billy where you know it was, it was, 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: you know, a hundred and eighty five dollars for the 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: water pump on the small block Chevy and that was 112 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money. My god, two hundred dollars for 113 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: a water pump. The water pump was thirty bucks. It 114 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: was three hours of labor or whatever. You know, labor 115 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: was forty dollars an hour. It was you know what 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: was it back in nineteen every two and it was 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was God was young, dirt was just invented, 118 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: and I started working on cars. But I just you know, 119 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: everything is relative, and you've got to remember that that 120 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: it's that it's all relative. So um. But yeah, just 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: just a staggering repair. And I also want to talk 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: about this hour the Subaru CVT transmission that we worked 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: on this week, and you know, Mr Ray, just real quick, 124 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: and then I promise I'll go to the phones. I 125 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: won't give the whole thing away. But how much do 126 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: you think now? A CVT? Right that sounds like high technology, 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, constant variable. What do you think is what 128 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: do you think of subrew transmission could possibly cost? Let's see, 129 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I know, for a Ford Escape, we're talking to the 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: three three to four thousand dollar range. So I'm gonna 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: guess sixth grand boy, that's not bad, kid, all right, 132 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: but you know parts and subsidiaries, and you're you're between 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: seven grand in parts. All right, here's the catch. Guess 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: when you can get that transmission? If you order it 135 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: today six fold months. Now, we're better than that if 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: you put a special I'm telling the whole story now, 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: if you put a special handling on it that it's 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: a priority, you can have it in thirty days. Really, yeah, 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: there's a back order on them. I had. We had 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a legacy that came into the shop. Yeah, yeah, we 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: had a legacy that came into the shop with a 142 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: stalling condition and it was transmission related. And you know what, 143 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it there because I'm gonna keep you 144 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: in suspense for a little bit. I'll tell you about 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: that little later on this hour. Right now, let's get over. 146 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk to Rick and Seattle. Rick, welcome to the 147 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, you're on what's going on? Kid? Hey, 148 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand six Honda Odyssey uh two 149 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: miles on it well maintained. The other day, the driver's 150 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: window went down and it won't come back up. Um. 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: It appears that it's that there's enough friction in there 152 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: that the window auto reverses. So I was able to 153 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: help it up with my hand and get it closed. 154 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: So we don't have to deal with that right now. UM, 155 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tear it open and try to figure 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: out if it's motor, if it's linkage, UM that's causing 157 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: the problem. I wondered if you had any uh UM 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: pattern failure information or things like it probably doesn't really 159 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: matter if it's one or the other, because if memory 160 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: serves me correct that motors attached to a track mechanism. 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: That so it's just all cables and pulleys, and you're 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: only gonna be able to get that as an assembly 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. So I've I've seen, I've seen 164 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: I've seen regulator failure. We always think of his regulator failure. 165 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: I've seen the regulator fail I've also seen. And one 166 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: of the things you could try before you take it 167 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: apart is just get down your local lotor parts store, 168 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: grabs some spray silicone and hit the rubber of the 169 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: glass itself with a little silicone and if that helps 170 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and you can get it to go up and down, 171 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tell you the motor is just weak 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: and you're you're compensating for the drag of the rubber 173 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: against the power of the motor and helping it to 174 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: make it work. But pop the door panel off and 175 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're gonna see that is a that 176 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: is a regulator assembly, uh, meaning that it's gonna be 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: two pieces of aluminum, some ten millimeter bolts. It's gonna 178 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: come out motor and regulator as an assembly, as an 179 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: install once you detach it from the bottom glass runner 180 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: of the window itself. All right. Um. The other the 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: other the other thing to be aware of is there 182 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: is a master power window reset procedure you know, to 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: make the auto up and down work, and you can 184 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: probably find it online. Be aware it's it should be 185 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: key on, bring it down all the way from the top, 186 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: bring it up all the way keeping the button on 187 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: for three seconds. And I think the Honda does it. 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: They required to do it three times, two or three times, 189 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be some sequence of you know, down, 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: hold up, haled down, hold up hauled down, hold up hauled, 191 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: and it should work at that point. All right. It's 192 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: it's something along those lines. But just you know, there 193 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: is a master reset, so just so you're not confused 194 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: when it doesn't work after you end up, if you 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: end up replacing the motor, that will be the case. 196 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: All right, sir, all the time. Oh, you're very welcome. 197 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm here for you. And if you need 198 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: any more information, you give us a call. All right, kiddo, 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, you're very welcome. Nine zero by 200 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: the way, before I go, what we're missing somebody? Mr Tony. Oh, 201 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: he apparently heard his back and I told him. You know, 202 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: he's not as young as he used to be. He 203 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: can't do that with the with the ladies anymore. But 204 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't I can't do what dancing. Yeah, I don't 205 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: think we can say on the show. I thought he 206 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: was I thought he was. Um. I thought he was 207 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: lifting a sandwich because I thought he was hungry. He 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: could have been that, or he could have been just 209 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: hauling his big butt upstairs to his apartment. I don't know. Um, see. 210 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I think he was eating, is what I heard. And 211 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: he was all excited about the Super Bowl tomorrow. He's 212 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of rooting for the Eagles, and um, no, no, no, 213 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: Tony and I are not rooting for the Eagles. He 214 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: we're Giants fans. We're rooting that the Patriots don't win. Well, 215 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: how can that be? Somebody has to win, he has 216 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: to win. But we're not rooting for the Eagles. We're 217 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: rooting against the Patriots. But we can't say that we're 218 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles because we're Giants fans. Yep. I'll 219 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: talk to you when when we take the break zero 220 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: nine zero zero on any of the car. Doctor, I'm 221 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: coming back right after this. She's really find my phone, 222 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: she's real mine. Eight five five five zero nine nine 223 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: zero zero. Give her on a call right now. I 224 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: was thinking the other day about Kealey Gillespie's fifty five Chevy, 225 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and I'm listening to this and it juggles my brain 226 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: because of four oh nine. The predecessor to the four 227 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: oh nine was the three eight. Back in the late fifties, 228 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: in high school, Hughey had a two door Primery Gay 229 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: fifty five that was just you know, it was a 230 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: neat period hot rod of the day and he hit 231 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: a three forty eight in it. Every time I hear 232 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: four oh nine, I think about that. So just I'm 233 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: having flashbacks. I'm not sure why, but just, you know, 234 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: are hot flashes one or the other nonsensical ravings of 235 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: a lunatic mind. Stephen Virginia, sir, you're out with the 236 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? What's going on? Uh? 237 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Two questions are on one on changing oil, sort of 238 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: generic question. A friend says the Toyota dealer tell him 239 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: to go ten thousand miles. I say, even with synthetic oil, 240 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: five thousand miles tops four is better and no filter 241 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: goes over said that, yeah, and I and I agree 242 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: with you on that, Steve. I think you're spot on 243 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the money. You know, I like, I like five thousand 244 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: is a number for synthetic. I cringe when I see 245 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: people going past that, But then I say, hey, you 246 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: know what, it's not my car. I still have conversations 247 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: with with with text. You want to talk Toyota's Toyota text, 248 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: the Toyota service managers that all tell me the same thing. 249 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: The worst thing in the world Toyota ever did was 250 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: extend the oil drain interval to make it sound like 251 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: the car never needs service. And sure, if you're leasing 252 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: that car, when that car has got twenty thirty thousand 253 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: miles on it, you don't seem to feel the pain. 254 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: It's like being a kid. You can, you can, you know, 255 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: party hardy when you're seventeen two, When you're sixty sixty five, seventy, 256 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, you start to feel it, Your bones ache it. 257 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: It comes back to haunt you. How you treated yourself 258 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: when you were younger affects how you are when you're older, 259 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: and cars are no different. And you know, the other 260 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: thing I always think about out is now that we've 261 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: gone to tire pressure monitoring systems in the last ten years, 262 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: and now they're trying to extend the oil drain interval. 263 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm really sick and tired of 264 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: having to check tire pressure on cars that a or 265 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: overdue for service, or be that I haven't seen in 266 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: five months or six months, because somebody's under the impression 267 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: that the extended oil drain interval is okay, And we're 268 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: wasting an awful lot of manpower and time, and we're 269 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: also missing things that otherwise might need to be repaired 270 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: or maintained, so that you're losing tire life. Well, you're 271 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: losing tire life and you're you know, you're you're just 272 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: losing so much. You know, it's still a it's still 273 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: a vehicle, it's still a machine. Someone said this the 274 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: other day. We were out to dinner with a bunch 275 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: of mechanics and they said, well, I can't wait. You know, 276 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: another four or five years. Pretty soon, corporate America will 277 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: take over cars. Everything will be a plastic card. It's 278 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: going to be more Uber, more lift, more corporate controlled 279 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: by you know, another seven eight years, the governmental just 280 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: banned cars altogether, and do you want to repair? Business 281 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: will be out of business and we'll be driving around 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: in self driving cars and Uber rising and every three 283 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: years you'll throw the car away and run into the crusher. 284 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you it sounds very Logan's run, very 285 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: science fiction. But you know, Steve, they're they're talking flying 286 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: cars in the next two years. That it keeps coming up. 287 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: You know, Uber swears they're gonna have flying cars in 288 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: in in the Middle East in the next two years. 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I read that somewhere in uh Um. I can't think 290 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: of the name. But you know, nothing, nothing, nothing is 291 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: science fiction anymore. It's all a matter of economics and 292 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: dollars and and and and making it work and and 293 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: making it happen. And they're they're reaching for so many 294 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: different things. So I yeah, go ahead, I say this, 295 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: se you listeners, when when all this comes about, they're 296 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: going to tell you when when you can go where 297 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: you can go, And there won't be any of the 298 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: rise in the country to pennsylvani to get the cord 299 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: of milk. That well, that's right. That you know the 300 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: road that you just stand, and you know that road 301 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: that you just stand, as my father always said, and 302 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: long term listeners know what I'm talking about. Where we're going. 303 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: We're going in the car, getting the car, we're going 304 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: to Chua stand, don't worry about it. And you know 305 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that bonding time at that point. 306 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: And I think back, I was talking to somebody else 307 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: this week about it, how much cars influenced this generation, 308 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: the people that are in my age group. You know, 309 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: we all had our We were on Facebook the other 310 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: day telling our car stories and you know, you read 311 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: them and that's kind of how I remember them. It's 312 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: not everybody exaggerating. It's yeah, we really did some crazy, 313 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: wild things in cars, but they really helped bond us together. 314 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Today the kids are bonding by going with their keys 315 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: on a keyboard. There's no there's no interaction. There's no 316 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: helping a buddy out at two in the morning with 317 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: a flat tire. There's no you know, running down to 318 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: the local salvage yard and spending Saturday afternoon combing through 319 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the wreck looking for a bumper clip for the Chevelle 320 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: that they, you know, bounced off a telephone pole last 321 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: night because they were they were they slid in the rain, 322 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: but they learned their lesson. You know. There's none of that, 323 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and it's you know today, it's I see it all 324 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: the time. A young driver has an accident around here. 325 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: They throw the keys at the parents and say, hey, 326 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: my car's dented. You gotta fix it. You know, you 327 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: just go huh um. It's it's a very it's a 328 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: very different dynamic. And I blame that on the fact 329 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: that we don't fix things anymore, and we're slowly getting 330 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to the point where where we're junking things and that's 331 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna it's it's gonna change society, mark my words. 332 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: You had a second HID head lights, L E ed 333 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: s and HI D s. Uh. How expensive are they 334 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: to repair in terms of parts and labor depends on 335 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the manufacturer. I've seen hi D bulbs all urs, uh, 336 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: you know. And it's it's also a little nerve racking 337 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: on the part of the mechanic handling it, obviously because 338 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: of the expense, also because of the electronics involved. So 339 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: are they necessary? Um, you know, that's that's a touchy subject. 340 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting older, Steve, I don't see as good as 341 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: I used to. Uh, you know, but it's it's it's 342 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: it's I think it's gonna be part of the process 343 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: going forward. I don't I question also, you know, just 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: how good or how how can I say this? It 345 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of the cars heading towards me 346 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: now they're really on high beam and they're not. And 347 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I just I just wonder if the h I D 348 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: s and the L E ed s and all that 349 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: they're they're just such a different color white light that 350 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: they're having an effect on us, And you know, do 351 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: we necessarily need it? How about if we drive a 352 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: little slower and we'll need to see as much or 353 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: as far down the road. And that's something I guess. 354 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: That's a heck of an orgument to he Steve. As always, 355 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I always appreciate the comments from you, sir. 356 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: My best to you and yours down rolling up Virginia Way. 357 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm Ron, an Adian, the car doctor, and I'm back 358 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, that's right. If you 359 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: call and we're not live, you can leave a message 360 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back to get you on the 361 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: air with Ron eight five five five zero nine nine 362 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: zero zero. Speaking of Ron there he is. What do 363 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: you mean if we're not live, Well, we are live. 364 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: We're live Saturday afternoons. What time is it? Two to four? 365 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Isn't that correct? It is right now? Yes, two to 366 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: four is right now, four Eastern time. Thank you here 367 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: now Mr big Ben, Tom ray Um, but right will 368 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: be No, we're you know, we're we're live Saturday afternoons 369 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: two to four pm Eastern time. But you know some 370 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: of the affiliates take us different times, and you know 371 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: you can call us, but you can't call the eight 372 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: five five number. You can also call the eight five 373 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: five number Saturday afternoon two to where pm when we're 374 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: not on the air in your neck of the woods, 375 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: and or if you're podcasting and talk to us live 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: whatever your heart desires. It has an added bonus. They 377 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: can talk to me. Like I said, um, there are 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: some moments where you just sort of question while you're 379 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: doing this, Uh, Mick and Oregon, welcome back, sir. What's 380 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: going on with this truck? We're in't the week three here? 381 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: This is becoming the expedition of the next uh, the 382 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: next broadcast? What happened with this truck? Yes? It is? Um, well, 383 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I you're right. I went and I reread my directions 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: and I was testing for the five volts wrong. Um, 385 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: so I tested for it right, And so I'm getting 386 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: five vaults like I should. So I'm assuming, I'm assuming 387 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: that's all the sensors are. Okay, okay, right, and I 388 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: think so, I'm trying to remember exactly I remember we 389 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: had a five vault loss or or reference issue here. 390 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember exactly what was being Yeah, it 391 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: all started with with a code for a faulty vehicle 392 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: speed sensor. Okay, okay, that's right, that's right, pulling the 393 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: signal low. So yeah, so what ended up what ended 394 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: up happening? You had you had five vault reference where 395 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: you were supposed to it never dropped out. Did did 396 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: the speedometer work on this? I don't necessarily remember that 397 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: or not? Um? Yeah, yeah it does. Okay. And and 398 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: now you've put it back together and it runs different. No, 399 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: it still has the same drive ability issue or the 400 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: runability issue. UM. I was just trying to diagnose and 401 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: troubleshoot what it was. So I've eliminated the sensors. Um. 402 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: But so what it does is when you started up, 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: it'll it'll start up and it'll I'll really rough for 404 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, and then it'll pick the idol up 405 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: in I'll idle fine, and then if you go to 406 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: give it throttle, it'll miss or cut out and it'll 407 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: pop our backfire in the intake and kind out the 408 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: air box. Got Okay, there's there's there's there's two things 409 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: I want you to look at. Here was there more? 410 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you short. No, no, No, 411 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: that that's it? Okay? Um? And what tools are you 412 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: working with? Are able to work with? I know you've 413 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: got a volt meter. I got a voltmeter, and I 414 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: got a generic scam pool all right? And did you 415 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: have a scope? No? I don't. Okay, So two things 416 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: I want you to do. The first is, and I 417 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: just wanted just for conversation's sake. Uh, you know where 418 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: the front crank balancer is, you know, the front the 419 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: front crank pulley. Yes, make sure the harmonic balancer isn't 420 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: spinning around on the cranks. Now you know, the rubber 421 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: part isn't coming loose and the balancer is not spinning 422 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: on its own. All right. It might require you taking 423 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: the belt off and just grabbing the front of the 424 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: balancer and giving it a yank. And you'll see it's 425 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: a split ring balancer. There's there's rubber between the two 426 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: out of the inner and the outer half. And just 427 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: make sure it's not loose some wiggling and jiggling and 428 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Um, that's that's right right on 429 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: the front, right on the front. It's it's basically it's 430 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: basically the pulley that the belt rides on, all right, 431 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: on the crank shift, all right. And the reason I 432 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: asked that is because the next thing I'm gonna tell 433 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: you to do is predicated on where or how that 434 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: balancer is working. If the balancer is off or you know, 435 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: spinning on its own, it's out of index. With the crank. 436 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: The next step is it becomes a mute point, all right. Okay, 437 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: So what I want you to do is bring the 438 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: balancer around to top dead center, all right, and make 439 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: sure the rotor is under number one plug wire. All right. 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: So basically what I'll tell you to do is, you know, 441 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: mark where number one is. Take the distributor, cap off, 442 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: fine number one, put a little magic marker mark on 443 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: the distributor body, all right, and say, okay, this is 444 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: about where number one is supposed to be, all right, 445 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: and cap off, crank the motor around in the right direction, 446 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: and and you know it's gonna be clockwise bringing up 447 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the top dead center, and watch the rotor. And here's 448 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: here's here's the math part. All right. The trailing edge 449 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: of the tip of the rotor needs to be just 450 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: about twenty thousands past the number one terminal in the 451 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: cap when you've got the balancer on top dead all right. 452 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: And if it's not, then distributors at a time. Here's 453 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: the problem. The distributor is pinned, isn't it. It's it's 454 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's I think it's I think this 455 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: is the generation that was locked in place and when 456 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: we saw these go out of SINC like this. If 457 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: it is out of SINC, all right, then you know 458 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: you might have to make some modification a little bit 459 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: where we would take the distributor unpinned and you'll you'll 460 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: get it when you see it. I have, I have 461 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: faith in you. You'll understand what to do, all right. 462 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: This was this was another great idea of the engineers. Hey, 463 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: we'll just make everything non adjustable. What could go wrong? 464 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Variety exactly because there's no there's no timing marks or 465 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: anything on the pulleys. Well, there should be on the balancer. 466 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: There should be there should on the balancer. I saw 467 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: one straight line right, that's top right, and there there 468 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: should be some type of a tab on the front 469 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: of the cover. There there is a way to index this, 470 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: all right. And if if it lines up and it 471 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: is at twenty thousands, you know it's going with twenty thousands, 472 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: is you know it's like that far? If it's if 473 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: it's more or less under number one in the rotor, 474 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: we're good. I got a feeling it's going to be 475 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: out quite a bit. If if you're backfiring through the intake, 476 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: all right, it's it's one of it's one of two things. 477 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: It's either ignition timing is off or mechanical valve timing 478 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: is off. You're creating combustion in the intake manifold. From 479 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: the sounds of it, all right, So something is out 480 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: of time. The sequence of when and how it fires 481 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: in relation to the piston is is off. You're creating 482 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: spark and explosion in the in the intake manifold instead 483 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: of in the combustion chamber. That's how the backfire happens. 484 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: If if the backfire, if the backfire happened in the exhaust, 485 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. But now it's happening. It's happening. 486 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's happening later. This sounds like it's 487 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: happening sooner. Okay, right, it sounds like it's happening early. 488 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: So but that's that's what that's the first thing I 489 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: always go check. And then we've got to talk about why. 490 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: And you know, how far out is that rotor? Depending 491 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: upon how far out that rotor is this this has 492 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot of miles on at this jeep. Right, if 493 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: I remember right, it's not a ton, but it's enough, 494 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: you know. Um, if memory serves me right, there is 495 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: a timing chain in this motor. I believe there is, 496 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: and um I have seen that also be you know, affecting, 497 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: and that will affect how the distributor lines up and sinks. 498 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: But take a look at that. Do those two things 499 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: and then call me back next week. Will continue the saga. Alright, Okay, 500 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I will, I will, and we'll kind of go from there. 501 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: But always welcome, kid. I don't feel like you're bothering us. 502 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: We're kind of curious to see what fixes this truck. Okay, great, right, 503 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: you're very welcome. You have a good rest of the week. 504 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: YouTube by bye bye. Um. Yeah, that's kind of what 505 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: we're here for. It's uh right, Mr Ray here, we're 506 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: here for that, and uh we're just trying to fix cars. 507 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: We're here for here. Actually I'm here for the beer. 508 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: But you know, well, I guess what You're gonna be disappointed. So, um, 509 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: I've got it figured out. I know how the Patriots, 510 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: I know how the Patriots cannot win and the Eagles 511 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: not lose or however, there's gotta be a tie. Well, yeah, unfortunately, 512 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: there can't be a tie. Someone must win, but it 513 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: can't be the Patriots. Is that the rule? Yes, yeah, yeah, 514 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl there has to be a winner, there can't 515 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: be a tie. They will play as many overtimes as 516 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: necessary until there is a winner. Well I didn't know that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 517 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: Well it's it's the same thing World Series, Stanley Cup, 518 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: and hockey. There has to be a winner. There can't 519 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: be a tie. And just think we're making all this 520 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: fuss about a sport. The three months ago, we're all 521 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: talking about how they didn't stand for the national anthem, 522 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and they probably still don't. But you know what, the 523 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: Patriots can't win on on that note zero nine nine 524 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: zero zero, or on any of the car doctor coming 525 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: back right after this around, get around, Welcome back then 526 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor here five zero nine nine zero 527 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: zero they call it, and answer your questions. I want 528 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the Subaru. This week, 529 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: we had Subaru Legacy that came in for a stalling 530 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: condition and it was not and is not a repeatable 531 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: condition that you can do every time. A matter of fact, 532 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: I have never seen its stall. So I was diagnosing 533 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: against an intermittent in terms of actually seeing it and 534 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: experiencing it. But I took it on, I brought it in. 535 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: It was good old Mr Cooper. He's um. He seems 536 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: to bring me these these instrumountable problems that I have 537 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: to surmount somehow, and um, we went through it. You know, 538 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: no codes, no faults, nothing obvious. Never saw it happen. 539 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: But I started doing a little research. And research has 540 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: become such an important part of the diagnostics game over 541 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the past ten years, and it's just getting more so 542 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: every day. A matter of fact, when I go to class, 543 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: the instructor stand up and they tell us, you know, 544 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: when you when you start your diagnostic hour, if you 545 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: don't spend the first forty five minutes of every diagnostic 546 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: hour doing reading and research, you're short changing the customer. 547 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: If you have any questions, if you know where to go, 548 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: that's fine. But if you don't, and you've got to 549 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, you've you've got to replicate it, or you 550 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: can't replicate it, You've got to do your research. Found 551 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Subaru technical bulletin UH dated four years ago that talks 552 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: about problems with the thrust washer or a thrust washer 553 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: inside the tor converter. Now, the reason I actually went 554 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: looking at the transmission section for this was because the 555 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: way he described it, the way you're described it, it 556 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: sounded and reminded me of the old General Motors tor 557 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: converter lock up happening. Remember those folks, when you had 558 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: your older General Motors product back in the late eighties 559 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: early nineties that you would pull up to its stop 560 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: sign in the car would just kind of chuckle and 561 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: shutter and bam would shut off, and if you popped 562 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: it into neutral the problem went away. So I went looking. 563 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I went looking into the trans section, and sure enough, 564 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Subaru has a known problem with the torque converters, where 565 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the torque converter itself is staying engaged due to a 566 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: fault with a thrust washer inside that's blocking an oil 567 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: passage to the oil that applies the torque converter. Lock 568 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: up doesn't release and it causes the car to stall. 569 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: So now here's the question. At a hundred and five 570 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: thousand miles, this thrust washer has worn out and pushed 571 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: metal throughout the trans do you do Because if the 572 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: thrust washer wore where did it go? All? Right? Would 573 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: be my argument? Um, you know, where do you go? 574 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Where do you where do you draw the line? The 575 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: trans has to come out to do the torque converter? 576 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Do you do just a torque converter or do you 577 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: do a trans Before you answer that question, the other 578 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: problem Mr Cooper has is there every once in a 579 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: while this it does this strange shriek where you think 580 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: you think the serpent team belt is slipping and it's not, 581 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: and the car has a shutter and a clunk, and 582 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: it really feels like trans itself. So it feels like 583 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: there's an internal problem in the trans. Is that because 584 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: of the torque converter? Is there other extenuating circumstances here? 585 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know I've got a bad 586 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: torque converter. Because, by the way, I explained all of 587 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: this to herb and he eat mil me late Friday night. 588 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: He said, hey, you were right. I pulled up to 589 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a stop sign, the cars about the stall. I popped 590 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: it into neutral. Problem went away, So you know, there 591 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: you go. I was right again. That's three times this week. 592 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: I think I should get a prize. So we had 593 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: to go price of transmission. Isn't it crazy that it's 594 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's by the time you're done with 595 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: fluid and and and a trans and a torque converter 596 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: and a couple of the things I mounted, it's Evan 597 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: Grand and you can't you can't get a trans. It's 598 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, and that's you know, if they don't special 599 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: handle it, if they don't prioritize it and say, hey, 600 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: we need one like right away. Vehicle down kind of 601 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: a thing. They told me from Suber it could be 602 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: two to three months. Who's gonna wait that long? Why 603 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: would you want to? I I, you know, listen, I 604 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: think Suber is a good car, but I still think 605 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: pattern failures dominate the scene. I set it from day one. 606 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: Subaru automatics, I don't care whether it's a CVT or 607 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: conventional automatic or otherwise. They have their issues. Subaru has 608 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: head gasket issues. Will they go anywhere and and you know, 609 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: climb through the snow and and and so on and 610 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: so forth. Yeah. Absolutely, But it's the price to get there. 611 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: And I think across all car lines, not just subar Us, 612 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: but all car lines. Now, the price of this technology 613 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: is these cars get older's older, it's becoming more expensive 614 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: to maintain and and and and operate, and you've got 615 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: to have the frame of mind you can't look at that. 616 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: And Mr Cooper got it. He said, hey, you know, 617 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: so we'll put eight grand in the car. He goes, 618 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: it's cheaper than a new one. Well, you know, he's 619 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: got to talk to the boss and see what she says. 620 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: But that's the that's the conversation we're having. UM only kidding, Melissa. UM, 621 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: that is the conversation they're having as far as is 622 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: it worthwhile to put money into the car at this point? 623 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: And I understand that so, but um, the price of 624 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: auto repair is clearly headed up along with the price 625 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: of new cars. So it's gonna be interesting to see 626 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: where where what caps out first, the price of the 627 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: car or the price of the repair in the marketplace. 628 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: It's getting more interesting each and every day. Five five 629 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm coming back to wrap 630 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: it up this hour. Don't go away. Take you a shout, 631 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: and I will speak for myself on any of the 632 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: car dot Gary zero seven phone number Ron at Car 633 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: Doctors Show dot Com is the email. Uh when Mitt 634 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: from Oregon calls next week to tell us what happened. 635 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: The next thing, we're gonna have him do somebody remind 636 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: me of this next week? Is you know what I think? 637 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: I know what's wrong with that truck. If it's not timing. 638 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: I bet he has a bad oxygen sensor that the 639 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: heater or circuit is shorting out during engine warm up 640 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: and it's affecting the five bolt data line going out 641 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: to the other sensors and it's creating the problem. So 642 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have him unplugged the two centers and let's 643 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: unlet's mix listening to the show now unless he does 644 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: this on podcast, unplug the O two censors and take 645 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: that car for a ride, will stay in open loop 646 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: and it'll set some codes for O two. But I 647 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: wonder if his problem goes away and the vehicle straightens 648 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: itself out, and that's gonna make me think he's got 649 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: to know two centsor fault that just uh, I just 650 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: remember that that was in the back of my head. 651 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you real quick. I had 652 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: an OH five Malibu this week, Chevy Malibu that had 653 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: a passenger side front seat. The seat back would ratchet. 654 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: The person that was sitting in it was um um big. 655 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: For lack of a better way, to put it, and 656 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: over time the ratchet mechanism were out and it needed 657 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: a seat frame. We took it apart and uh, you know, 658 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: lots of little pieces and seats. It's just it's just 659 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: amazing how they stuff everything in there. And it needed 660 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: a seat frame. So No. Five is thirteen years old. 661 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Car company said there were two designed seat frames possibilities 662 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: for oh five. They got rid of both of them. 663 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: So they want you to throw the car away. You know, 664 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: that's it. You can't get a seat. So we ended 665 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: up taking it apart and welding it all right, figured 666 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: out where the where the break was, where the failure was, 667 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: and we welded it in place and reassembled it and 668 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: put it back together. And Mary said to me, she goes, 669 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: can you do that? I said, Mary, listen, you know what, 670 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: there's a point of practicality. The seat won't recline anymore. 671 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: The seats always gonna stay upright, and it's always gonna 672 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: be in one place. But there are more than one way. 673 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: There's always a way, and there's more than one way 674 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: around the skin the cat. You just got to make 675 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: sure you're doing it safely and correctly. In terms of 676 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: keeping that car on the road and reliably so. Just 677 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: some food prothodo if you ever run into it. Until 678 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: the next time I'm run A nating the car. A 679 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: doctor and mechanics aren't expensive. They're quite sh