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Speaker 1: There was no diagnosis performed. For all we know now

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Speaker 1: than you can imagine. It was a wild week at

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Speaker 1: seems like the work week was a distant a distance away. UM.

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Speaker 1: We did a little traveling yesterday. We went upstate in

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Speaker 1: met a gentleman here by the name of George. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that was his real name. He was from Shanghai,

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Speaker 1: And he explained to me how I asked him about

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Speaker 1: And George's words, not mine, um, but it was interesting

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Speaker 1: oil pressure issues. Yes, Paul, you're not with the car doctor, sir?

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Speaker 1: How can I help ron Ron. It's a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. And Uh, I've been wait wait, waiting

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's it's a forward drive gear is four

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Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, I was. I was just hoping maybe

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't because, um, you know, everything was clean,

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Speaker 1: There was no scoring and like I said, the oil

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Speaker 1: even bother checking the clearance on it. Well, when you

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Speaker 1: at what's good process of elimination. You know, when when

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Speaker 1: and you know, Jesus was a baby, and we took

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Speaker 1: Russell's house and it would it would blow and suck.

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Speaker 1: So we set it up the blow air and yeah,

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Speaker 1: we pressurized the crank case and it pushed oil up

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Speaker 1: for a minute. What have been twenty years everything was

429
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Speaker 1: self driving cars? And there's a situation where somebody has

430
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Speaker 1: to take over take over control of that self driving car,

431
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Speaker 1: right all of a sudden, there's there's a bad road scenario,

432
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Speaker 1: there's a bad weather condition. What are you gonna do

433
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Speaker 1: if what are you gonna do if that self driving

434
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Speaker 1: car has a passenger in it that never got a

435
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Speaker 1: drive driver's license or never drove a car in the

436
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: first place, how are they going to take over the

437
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: self driving car to drive it? Right? I mean that

438
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: makes sense. So what we're gonna have the person that

439
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: can't drive on a car that has a limited steering wheel,

440
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: if wanted all drive a self driving car that they

441
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Speaker 1: can't really operate because that's where they're driving a self

442
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Speaker 1: driving car in the first place. I think autonomous vehicles

443
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Speaker 1: have their place, and I've said this time and time again.

444
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: I think they have their place. I don't know if

445
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Speaker 1: the place is full automation, fully taking over, fully doing what,

446
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, what we were hoping they can do. I

447
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: think there's got to be a point of common sense.

448
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: I think if you could put and would you? And

449
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: his letter raises a concern for me about human interaction.

450
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: If you're five year old mother had to go to

451
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Speaker 1: the doctor, and you can put her in the car

452
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Speaker 1: and say take mom to seventy two Main Street for

453
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Speaker 1: Dr Johnson and Dr Johnson's nurse. When Mom gets there,

454
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Speaker 1: walks down and walks momm upstairs. What if the self

455
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Speaker 1: driving car has a problem while he's driving Mom to

456
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Speaker 1: the doctor. How much you're gonna trust it? So you know,

457
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Speaker 1: I realized cars with people in them are not you know,

458
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Speaker 1: error lists not in. It's just a question of our

459
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Speaker 1: self driving cars better or worse. And I'm of the

460
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Speaker 1: inclination that they work great on paper, but I think

461
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Speaker 1: there's a degree of worse built in here. Um. I

462
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: think this is a problem, and I think we've got

463
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Speaker 1: to really really look at it. Um. Eric Bean wrote Ron,

464
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Speaker 1: I've got something to add to your recent discussion on

465
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Speaker 1: self driving cars. They may be technological wonders, but the

466
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Speaker 1: human element um cannot be eliminated. We read this last week,

467
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Speaker 1: and I think it's worth looking at again. Take, for instance,

468
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Speaker 1: the ability to distinguish sound. Eric wrote this, I read

469
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Speaker 1: this last week the week before, and I've been thinking

470
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Speaker 1: about it ever since. He's absolutely right. I was on

471
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Speaker 1: the thru Way last night driving home from Woodstock, New York.

472
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Speaker 1: We had a mental health day, and of fund that,

473
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Speaker 1: we went up state, and I was, oh, I was

474
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Speaker 1: probably ten twelve car lanes back and the speed little

475
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Speaker 1: bit and everybody's doing seventy five because you're trying not

476
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Speaker 1: to get run over by the eighteen wheeler and everything

477
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Speaker 1: else that's in your way. So you know, it's like

478
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: a ballet out there, right, It's it's a dance. You're

479
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: you're doing the dance. You're you're you're trying to stay

480
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Speaker 1: out of the flow of traffic. I'm on the right

481
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Speaker 1: lane and the slow lane and I'm watching everybody ahead

482
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Speaker 1: of me. There was an eighteen wheeler in the fast lane,

483
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Speaker 1: two cars behind it, and a little space opened up,

484
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Speaker 1: and the guy in the Mini Cooper said, well, you

485
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Speaker 1: know what, I can go there, and he just shot

486
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Speaker 1: right in front of the two cars behind the eighteen

487
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Speaker 1: wheeler and it kept going. Everybody but the truck's break

488
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Speaker 1: lights went on, and I was kind of expecting the

489
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Speaker 1: Mini Cooper to slide under the eighteen wheeler and then

490
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Speaker 1: I'd be, you know, running away from scattered debrill over

491
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Speaker 1: the road. But what a mini but with a self

492
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Speaker 1: driving car? See that? I was twelve car lanes back.

493
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Speaker 1: How far ahead can it see? And how quick can

494
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Speaker 1: it react? Because and this was my point, that wasn't

495
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Speaker 1: a problem, but my brain told me that could be

496
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Speaker 1: a problem. Would the self driving car be smart enough

497
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Speaker 1: to see that's an oops about to happen? Can it

498
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Speaker 1: foresee the accident? Or does it have to be be

499
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Speaker 1: the accident before it reacts to it? Tom? Did you ever? No?

500
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, remember to air is human.

501
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: To really screw things up requires a computer. Well, and yeah,

502
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: then there's that, and and I you know, so that

503
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: I see stuff like this all the time with the

504
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Speaker 1: amount of driving I do, and I mean, it amazes

505
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Speaker 1: me the things people pull on the road, well, the

506
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: things they pull on the road, and nobody. You know

507
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Speaker 1: what's the rule? I think it's I think it's Is

508
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Speaker 1: it three car lanes for every ten miles an hour

509
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Speaker 1: of travel? No? What one car length for every ten?

510
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Speaker 1: Is it one for every ten? Okay, so one for

511
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Speaker 1: every ten. So the eight ten wheeler that was in

512
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Speaker 1: the front of this crowd, the last vehicle should have

513
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Speaker 1: been past me. I was twelve car lanes back during

514
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Speaker 1: seventy five. And the slow lane, the last vehicle should

515
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: have been behind me to do this safely, and it wasn't.

516
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: They were all righting each other's bumper. And the other

517
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: thing that kills me is, you're right. The right lane

518
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: is the slow lane. The central lane is your travel lane,

519
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: right lane is for getting on and off. Center center

520
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: is to travel, left lane is passing. And how many

521
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: people are all driving sight in all three lanes. And

522
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: if you're doing the speed limit, got to help you.

523
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Speaker 1: If you're in the central lane, it's unbelievable. Well, and

524
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Speaker 1: I was on the part of the throw I was

525
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: way up state. There was only two lanes, so that

526
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Speaker 1: was that was in another problem. Well, yeah, yeah, that

527
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Speaker 1: that's that. That's the other issue up there in the

528
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: farther upstate. You go the you know, you get cut

529
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: down the lane and then things get a little narrower

530
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: and narrower, and and then what's gonna happen? And then

531
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Speaker 1: then we'll go then what's gonna happen coming home? Uh,

532
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the let's see, we got the exit seventeen on the Thruway,

533
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Speaker 1: Exit sixteen on the Thruway, which was Woodberry, and then

534
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: below that would have been fifteen mahwah, but there was

535
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: a three mile line of cones they were working on

536
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: the Thruway. Well, the self driving car see that? How

537
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: will how will it react to that? Because I read

538
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the sign that said, you know, roadwork three miles, next

539
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: three miles, etcetera. You know, speed limit is now twenty

540
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: miles an hour. You know, do we have the sophistication

541
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Speaker 1: are we planning to you know, tell the self driving

542
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: car you've entered a work zone, slowed down and observe

543
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: these rules. Well, my favorite also is is you go

544
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: into the you go into the work zone. It says

545
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: right lane close, you get in the left lane, you

546
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: get you're driving in the left lane, right lanes closed,

547
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: everything's great, right lane opens up, and all of a sudden,

548
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: left lane is closed and you don't even have a

549
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: quarter mile to get over. Right. Is it going to

550
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: recognize that right? You know, because the sign back there

551
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't say right lane then left lane closed or vice versa.

552
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: It just says one lane closed and all of a sudden,

553
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: and then how will the self driving car? I can

554
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: talk about this all day. How will the self driving

555
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: car react? Allowsy drivers? Because I think there's a few

556
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: of them out there. I was, I was coming out

557
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: of the chiropractice this morning. I was on Roots seventeen

558
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: North in New Jersey. Again. I'm in the slow land,

559
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: always in the slow land. I'm just kind of I'm

560
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: a peaceful soul. I'm just trying to do my thing,

561
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: and and and and the kid from Massachusetts and the

562
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Honda Civic, no blinker, not looking, just flies out onto

563
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: the highway, you know, doing ten miles an hour fast

564
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: than me. He just shot right into the fast lane,

565
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: cut across all three lanes, and he's driving like a jerk.

566
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: And my daughter loves in Massachusetts. And I can't tell

567
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: you on the radio what they call the drivers up there. Well,

568
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: but you know you just how will the self driving

569
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: car react to that? We're born, everybody. Let's pull over

570
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: and take the plause ronal ending the car doctor zero

571
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: zero zero. We're back right after this. Don't go away

572
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: when the family car needs some fixing. There's only two

573
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: things that really matter, getting the right part and getting

574
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 1: some gooded ice. It's a pretty safe bet that, with

575
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: over a million parts in stock, pet Boys has the

576
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: right part right now. The pet Boys pros are extensively

577
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: trained to find the right part for just about any

578
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: car truck. Better Yet, these pros can also handle the

579
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: entire installation or service needed. It's always good to have options,

580
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: and no, the pet Boys pros have it covered either way.

581
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: Boy oh boy, I tell you start fucking self driving

582
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: cars and the phones light up bigger than they normally

583
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: light up, ron and nading the car acter here. Let's

584
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: go over and talk to Joseph in Kansas. Yes, Yosef,

585
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: what do you got? What's going on? Roll? I just

586
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: had a thought on some of the self driving vehicles. Okay,

587
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: so say the weather gets bad, are they gonna actually

588
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: turn on the windshield wipers and headlights or not? Well,

589
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: and how would they know exactly? Well? You know, so

590
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: so you know, four day Edge and we went and

591
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: looked at the Ford Edge were thinking of a new

592
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: car and Ford Edge has an option with automatic wipers,

593
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: rain sensing wipers? Does that technology work? I it's it's

594
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: sort of okay, But do I really want to count

595
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: on it? How much automation do I want to make?

596
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Here's the real scary thing about self driving cars, in

597
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: my opinion, if they get us used to it and

598
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: they start manufacturing enough of them, you know, do you

599
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: know why? Do you know why people buy the cars

600
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: that they currently buy, because well, they're comfortable with it, right,

601
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: and the manufacturers make those cars because that's what's selling one.

602
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Self driving cars take over to a point. And granted

603
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a ways down the road, I think,

604
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: But think about this ten fifteen years from now, when

605
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: people say I don't want to drive anymore and I

606
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: don't want to put you know, as a gasoline engine

607
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: gas stations will go away. It'll be self driving cars.

608
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: There's no going back. Technology marches forward. It only goes

609
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: in one direction. And you know how capable is it.

610
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: We haven't perfected the technology we have. Why are we

611
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: trying to create more to add to the problems we've

612
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: already got? But you raise some very good points, sir. Yeah.

613
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Another thing for you too is I've noticed too on

614
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: some of these newer cars, they you know, they tend

615
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: to send fault codes. If there is like an ignition

616
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: or whatever problem. Some of these newer cars, they'll just

617
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: shut completely down. Have you witnessed that? Yeah? And there

618
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: there are some that will do that, and I think

619
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Speaker 1: I think self drivers are gonna do that too. And

620
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: think about the limits. Think about the problems here. Well,

621
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: a simple one GM had issues five six years ago

622
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: with uh UM. The cars would go into limp mode

623
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: because the you know, the throttle pedals, the centers for

624
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: the throttle pedals and the throttle bodies would fail and

625
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: the vehicle would go into the limp mode because it

626
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: didn't have accurate throttle response. What's gonna happen with drive

627
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: by wire on you know self driving cars? You gotta

628
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: hope they catch the issue. What about the toyotas with

629
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: their unintended acceleration issues? True or not? False or not?

630
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: But the The issue is there are documented cases of

631
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: vehicles all manufacturers having unintended acceleration issues. Will self driving

632
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: cars be able to correct for that? Appreciate the call

633
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: zero the car doctors coming right back. Don't go away. Hey,

634
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: welcome back, n any of the car doctor A great hour.

635
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Enjoy talking to everybody. You know, the self driving car

636
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: phenomena is not gonna go away anytime soon. It's something

637
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: that's just going to continue and move forward, and you know,

638
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: we've got to be aware of it. We've got to

639
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: be aware of what's trying to be created because there's

640
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: too many factors and too many things that are tied

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Speaker 1: to that self driving car um. You know, there's the

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Speaker 1: economy side, the financial side. You know, I get it

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Speaker 1: that it's going to change the side, and it will,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it's also got a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with general public safety. And you know how well we're

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Speaker 1: able to deal with it. Some recent reports this week

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Speaker 1: and I'll see if I can find the emails. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it in the second hour. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Tesla is not doing well again, and the predictions of

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Speaker 1: Tesla's doom. Okay, you know they've been talking that for

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Speaker 1: years now and has it happened not really, but the

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Speaker 1: company is not doing well in terms of meeting their

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Speaker 1: financial goals, and ultimately that's what it'll come down to.

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Speaker 1: It'll come down to financial goals. Um, you know, dollars

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Speaker 1: and cents. Does it make sense as C N S

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Speaker 1: C and they're making any dollars d O double L

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Speaker 1: A R S. So I think self driving cars are

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a game right now. I question

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Speaker 1: will it work at the national level? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: under every condition? And and and Yoseph from Kansa brought

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Speaker 1: up an excellent point. What if you're driving along in

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Speaker 1: the self driving car and the weather becomes so unbearable

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Speaker 1: that you have to pull over? Will the car know that?

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Speaker 1: How will they do that? I'm sure somebody's gonna tell me,

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Speaker 1: We'll run. They'll tie the cars existing satellite system to

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Speaker 1: get information from a weather satellite and decide when and

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Speaker 1: how to pull over. What about in Arizona where they

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Speaker 1: get sudden dust storms and you literally cannot see the

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Speaker 1: hood of the car right somewhere along the way and

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Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future, unless computing power really takes off,

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Speaker 1: which maybe a hundred years towards yours from now Will.

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Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be saying this, but you need

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Speaker 1: you need that human brain involved in driving. Well, you

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Speaker 1: kind of do. We just not used to seeing it

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Speaker 1: a lot anymore. But you know, you need that human interaction,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that self driving cars are gonna

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Speaker 1: give that to us on a safe, consistent, regular basis.

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Speaker 1: To be continued. I'm on an Indian the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless see Sepo