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Speaker 3: All Right, so, hi Jeff, We're back.

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Speaker 4: Hi Susie, good to be back with you.

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Speaker 1: We are on season four, episode seven, The Surrogate.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So we start.

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Speaker 1: Out with Larry and Cheryl watching a Seinfeld rerun. It's

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Speaker 1: the Puffy Shirt episode. They're in bed and the phone rings,

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Speaker 1: and we see that every time after an episode airs,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you a story about this in

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Speaker 1: a minute. It's their friend Marilyn, who wants to go

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Speaker 1: over the episode with them.

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Speaker 2: It's really annoying.

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Speaker 4: I'm very curious. I'm in great pain to watch these episodes.

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Speaker 4: It's like I enjoy them when I do watch them,

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Speaker 4: experience in my head as which I talk about as

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Speaker 4: a poet to seeing it. But I'm actually enjoying it

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Speaker 4: more than I would. But if it ran and reruns

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Speaker 2: I'd rather We don't know if Harry actually does watch.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think she does.

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Speaker 2: Of the episode.

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Speaker 4: Episode, but yeah, he wrote it, probably because he had

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Speaker 1: So this character Marilyn every night watches a rerun and

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Speaker 1: every night calls them after each rerun. It's annoy But

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Speaker 4: Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, and she was actually quite hurt by it.

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Speaker 4: Well, tell her to go to a good class for

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Speaker 4: self awareness. I mean, you, eactly, you gotta think twice.

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Speaker 4: You know. I wear this on my wrist, which it

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Speaker 4: that she was hurt because she wasn't identified.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to say what she does

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Speaker 4: Well there is no them anymore.

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Speaker 4: But I'm pretty sure that the Twins were are.

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Speaker 4: Alick Burg, Jeff Schaeffer, and David Mandel who correct Jeff

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Speaker 4: Alc Berg went on to Silicon Valley and co created

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Speaker 1: To watch ourselves dubbed in Spanish or German or.

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Speaker 1: So she calls. We get through all that, and then

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Speaker 5: I don't think you need to worry about the surrogate.

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Speaker 4: Well, she suggested a few things, and then she also

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Speaker 1: And he says, Larry says, for Betty, who is the mother?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then Cheryl starts to rub Larry's hand like

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Speaker 4: When he goes up to the receptionist, he's actually making

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Speaker 1: He's complaining that you should have Golf magazine, you should.

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Speaker 1: And he's on the treadmill doing his stress test and Renee,

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Speaker 4: I've worn a halter at least a half dozen times.

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Speaker 2: I have never worn a halter a halter top hold on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether I would ever want I have intercourse

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Speaker 6: Why it would be a nice tenth anniversary present for me.

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Speaker 4: And what I gave it tilman, I'll read it and

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Speaker 2: He's not going to re write it, is he?

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Speaker 2: Okay, because that's my baby. Oh yeah, mess with my babe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, messing with you.

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Speaker 6: Is there any black men around, Hector? Is there a valet?

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Speaker 5: It's biracial?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Huh So they make this doll specifically for mixed couples,

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Speaker 6: See what I'm getting that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think that's Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if you do.

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Speaker 4: Did you recognize the sales clerk.

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Speaker 2: She worked it. Yeah, she worked it.

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Speaker 1: And then they're at the shower and Larry brings in

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Speaker 4: And Steve DeMarco is someone who has been Larry's golf

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Speaker 1: And Betty opens up the door and Larry says, she's

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Speaker 3: It's from the David's.

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Speaker 2: Oh a all, it's a milato oh good by Rachel

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Speaker 2: Absolutely especially Cheryl, and the surrogate thanks him. She didn't

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Speaker 6: You never see it again. They take your baby from you,

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Speaker 6: You've lost complete contact with your baby. You never see

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Speaker 3: It's part of your job this week you signed up for.

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Speaker 6: But it's hard to give up that baby. I mean,

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Speaker 4: You have nothing to do with it, eh, And.

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Speaker 4: and he's no, no, it's changed. That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Exact perfect number of babies that felt believable. I don't

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Speaker 1: And then we're back at producer's rehearsal and Mel is

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Speaker 4: Basically, he doesn't know the book is the script, ye,

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Speaker 1: The beauties of being an actor. On Curb Your Enthusiasm, oh.

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Speaker 4: Man, that has never not been a topic of discussion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just usually it's a guest star that mentions it.

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Speaker 2: We're so used to it.

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Speaker 4: No, but we all go off by Larry Goes. It's

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Speaker 1: We love it that we don't have to memorize any lines.

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Speaker 2: I am not.

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Speaker 4: For me. It's a muscle and if the muscle is grooving,

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Speaker 2: I go over it with the you know, the script supervisor.

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Speaker 4: Well, the line whoever you know? Yeah, usually shows that

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Speaker 4: Hold On lu Schneider, our old friend, Yeah, directed a

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Speaker 4: with it.

444
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: He just yes that if it makes sense and it's flowing,

445
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: it's much easier to memorize.

446
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Bad dialogue is impossible.

447
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: When I used to do it recurring on SVU, playing

449
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: a defense attorney, I had all this legal jargon I

450
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: had to memorize.

451
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: It was brutal. It made no sense to me. I

452
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: didn't know what I was saying. It was brutal.

453
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 4: And SVU was the show that I guess started on

454
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: as the murderer. I don't remember, Jeffy, is that the

455
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: one where Roz asked if I would do it?

456
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. She was an EP on all of them.

457
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: I was on what was the one that Chris Noth

458
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 4: was on?

459
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 2: Do you know that was SVU?

460
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 4: Oh?

461
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: No, No, that was cis criminal intent?

462
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: Criminal intent? So I was the murderer on criminal Intent

463
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 4: and all my dialogue there was nothing that cued me.

464
00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 4: I had to come up with these long passages without remembering. Yeah,

465
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: why like answering a question and no, no, it's that

466
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: show is impossible. Another one, by the way, it's funny

467
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: to bring up. I was the villain on Baywatch and

468
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: all the actors around me they read it once or twice.

469
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 4: Their muscles were in full force. I had long monologues

470
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Speaker 4: and they beat the shit out of me.

471
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: Well, luckily none of that on Curb. So there's he's

472
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: still on book.

473
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: They open in three and a half weeks and then

474
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: Mel says, did you get your medical results for insurance?

475
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: And then Larry shows him the heart halter that he didn't,

476
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: and then Swim is like are you too old?

477
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: And like you want to race? You want to race,

478
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: and then David Schwimmer's dad comes in.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have to understand just like Ben Stellar,

480
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: David Schwimmer comes in and does the subtle.

481
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: Animosity absolutely very hostile.

482
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Speaker 4: It builds here, but in general it's really not that

483
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: it's difficult to play that subtly.

484
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: Jack Keller is playing Schwimmer's father, that's who plays Swimmers.

485
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Speaker 4: It was very good.

486
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: Yes, he was very good. That's why I looked it up.

487
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: And he comes in and Larry tells Mel about Renee,

488
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: and then we see in the background David Schwimmer's father

489
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: is showing him some photos and Mel is so funny

490
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: when he starts talking about Victor McLaughlin and Adolph Menjeu

491
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: and rubbing their face.

492
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: You know who also did that face rubbing? Was Brian Keith?

493
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: Was always like rubbing his face. I love Mel. And

494
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: then Schwimmer introduces his day.

495
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Speaker 4: I don't love Brian Keith.

496
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Speaker 2: Not as much as I love Mel. I know there's

497
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Speaker 2: few people I love as much as Mel.

498
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 4: Although Brian Keith had such a great career in movies.

499
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Speaker 2: And a terrific actor.

500
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Speaker 4: Everyone knows him from Family Affair.

501
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: Family Affair, Jody, but he was in a lot of

502
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: great movies and he no a lot of World War

503
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Speaker 1: two movies.

504
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Speaker 4: But I didn't discover that till later on because I

505
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: watched Family.

506
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Speaker 2: You watch Family Affair.

507
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, he always wanted to be

508
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: mister French and have a relationship with missus spaces.

509
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: What was his name?

510
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: That actor I'm blocking, Sebastian cabin He's the narrator and

511
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 4: one of the main characters in Jungle Book.

512
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Sebastian Cabot toward of our childhood. And then Schwimmer

513
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: introduces his dad to Mel and to Larry, he's a

514
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: no no, no.

515
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: No, no, no no. He introduces him to Mel.

516
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: To Mel, yeah, and he barely he introduces him to Larry,

517
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: but he barely acknowledges no no, no, no no.

518
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: The father barely acknowledges no.

519
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 5: No, no, no no.

520
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: He introduces him to Mel because his dad's excited, big fan,

521
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Yeah, and Larry's looking over what about me?

522
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: What about me? And Mel walks away if I'm not mistaken,

523
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: And David Schummer looks at Larry and goes, oh, yeah,

524
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: this is Larry. Yeah, yes, And the father's non plush. Yeah,

525
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: and we know why he's nonplussed. But then we get

526
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 4: into it.

527
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because after Irving Schwimmer walks away, Larry says he told.

528
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Speaker 6: Him about the whole Cashew raisin thing, right, you know

529
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: we're talking. You don't have to go back and tell him.

530
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: Larry, are you kidding? I know you said something, and

531
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: of course I said something. It was your suggestion, mister

532
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: constructive criticism. Hey, he's putting four cashes in a bag.

533
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: He deserves constructive criticism about it.

534
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: I want to call him, seriously, I don't think so.

535
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: I just like to call him, iologize. Feel comfortable with

536
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: my dad, David. I'm gonna apologize.

537
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be very nice, believe me.

538
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: So you told him about the Cashew raisin thing.

539
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: Was that it? And Schwimmer says yeah, and he was

540
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: upset about it, et cetera, et cetera.

541
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: So Larry DECI no, no, But Swimmer has the justification.

542
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: It was a suggestion you suggested, If that's what you said, suggestion.

543
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, And Larry wants to call him

544
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: to apologize, wants to call Irving Schwimmer to apologize. So

545
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: he's in Larry's in his car, in his little Prius.

546
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: By the way, Schwimmer also very reluctantly gives the number.

547
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: I'd rather not call my father. Well, don't call after ten,

548
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: which becomes a theme all through the show about the cutoffs.

549
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: Right, which for the first time we saw that was

550
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: in season one in the wire, Yeah was the cutoff.

551
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

552
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

553
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back.

554
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Larry pulls the car over and he dials Irving Schwimmer's

555
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: number and he starts to leave a message when in

556
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the message, which is a perfectly normal message,

557
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: somebody rear ends Larry.

558
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 6: Oh, this is Larry David. I just want to say,

559
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: your fucking asshole, what's your fucking problem?

560
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: You're prick Jesus.

561
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: So we know this is going to come back to

562
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: haunt him. It's just how could it not.

563
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: Nothing happens without it coming back to haunt him. And

564
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: the guy in the car that he's yelling at gets

565
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: out of the car with a tire iron and he

566
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: starts to go after and by the way, and that

567
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: excellent actor who's never stopped, yes, I know I recognized him,

568
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: but what's his name again?

569
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 4: He at that point was in that Tom Hanks Steven

570
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: Spielberg mini series about the war Rominy Malik was in it.

571
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: It was on HBO. It was very Brothers. He was

572
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: in that and it was very, very successful, and this

573
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: was the next thing that he did after that, and.

574
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he starts to go after Larry, and

575
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: Larry pulls up his shirt because he's got the monitor.

576
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: On, and he pretends to have a heart attack.

577
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: Right typical, which, by the way, I never had that

578
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: opportunity actually, thank god. But when I read that he

579
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: was doing that, I'm with the script. I went, oh,

580
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: that's brilliant. That's brilliant because there's a logical reason why

581
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 4: his heart's not This is one of those dominoes that

582
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: goes into million directions and having to wear the halter.

583
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: I watching it again, forgot that he's doing this, and

584
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: then I watched it.

585
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I totally forgot this episode. I totally forgot this episode.

586
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: On rewatching, they call an ambulance. The crowd forms.

587
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: The next thing.

588
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: Larry's on a stretcher in the ambulance and then he

589
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: sees people.

590
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, right now, hold on, I gotta add

591
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: something here. As he's being put into the ambulance, he's

592
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: trying to explain to them the empt. His legs are

593
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: crossed at the ankle like he's in a casual position.

594
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which nobody would be.

595
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: And if they had a heart attack, he's just like, oh.

596
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: They're not getting But he didn't have a heart attack.

597
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: No, I know, but still that's why it's funny.

598
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: And he sees in the ambulance, he sees his whole

599
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: crowd running after the surrogate with her big stuffed animal

600
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: that Larry had given her.

601
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: We don't know what that's about, but we can assume.

602
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: And then he's in the hospital talking to the nurse

603
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: and he's talking to her about is it a myth

604
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: or is it true?

605
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Well, by the way, let's also take a step back.

606
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: A group of people chasing a pregnant woman not something

607
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: you see every day.

608
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, but it's a curve of your enthusiasm.

609
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: Yes.

610
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: And the nurse in the husband she was terrific. Also,

611
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: she says it's a myth, and Larry says, too bad

612
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: for the black guys. And then he asked her about

613
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: mulatto and she says, no, that's a no, no, it's

614
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: by racial. And then Cheryl comes in and Larry says

615
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: to her, which I love this kind of throwaway. You

616
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: know that she's bi racial, but she still needs sunblock.

617
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: There's no advantage. There's no advantage to being by racial.

618
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: But what's really funny about that is we didn't see

619
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: that conversation, so he was covering lots of topics.

620
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Correct, yes, And then he tells her there was a

621
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: road rage incident and he faked a heart attack. And

622
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: then Show's pissed off because she's like, if you're not

623
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: even sick, why am I here? You know you faked

624
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: a fucking heart attack? Why am I here? She's pissed off.

625
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: She's pissed off through this entire episode. Cheryl is and

626
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: then she says, Tim, what did you say to the surrogate?

627
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: She's in labor?

628
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Way hold on? Though They get into an argument. Larry says,

629
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: would you prefer I had a heart attack? Yes? Would

630
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: you prefer that I had? He names a few other

631
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: things and she doesn't dispute it.

632
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: So Cheryl says, the surrogut is in labor and Bernie

633
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Dousenberry wants to kick Larry's ass because the surrogate wants

634
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: to keep the baby now because there's something that Larry

635
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: said to her. And the elevator opens and there's the

636
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: surrogate with the panda, and we don't know what happens yet.

637
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: But there are primos.

638
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Cut to there are primos, Larry and Richard Lewis, and

639
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: they're in a bathroom of primos and they're about to

640
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: take a piss and they talk about Larry says there's

641
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: no difference between black men and white men because the

642
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: nurse had told him that.

643
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: And then who should walk in? Jeff uh, Muggsy Boat,

644
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: Muggy Bou's right.

645
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Muggy Bos, who was one of the great guards of

646
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: all times and a short guy.

647
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Well that's what was delightful about him. He was so short,

648
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: and when I met him that he was a tiny

649
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: bit shorter than me. And I've been around NBA players

650
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: and they dwarf me. So that's yeah, if you're I'm six' one,

651
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: so if you're less than six to one, you are

652
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: really tiny on that court.

653
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: And you know, but he could move.

654
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: But also remember this too, if memory serves, he didn't

655
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: really know the show.

656
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: Oh really, it wasn't around.

657
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: So Muggsy Bos comes in and they're felling over him,

658
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, the big basketball.

659
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: Fan, and they're making a point to say that they

660
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: hadn't started peeing yet and their hands are clean, but

661
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: they're still not going to shake his hand.

662
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: And they also make a point that he's a guard. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because Larry had made that point before. You got to

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Speaker 1: look at the guard's Peni's not the forward, the forward

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Speaker 1: of the big tall guys.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So the three of them are at the urinal and

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Speaker 1: you see Larry and Lewis is sneaking a peek and

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Speaker 1: it's huge, it's massive, and Muggsy sees Larry looking and

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Speaker 1: goes after him.

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Speaker 2: And what does Larry do? He makes a heart attack?

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Speaker 4: Yes, which is it's so funny because he would almost

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Speaker 4: need that every episode.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, we did a couple of episodes ago,

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Speaker 1: we did the special section where he uses his mother's

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Speaker 1: death to get out of things. Right now he's using

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Speaker 1: the heart monitor, get it say, it's the same idea.

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Speaker 1: Cut to we're at the doctor's parking lot and there's

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Speaker 1: a black man in the parking lot who was Eric

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Speaker 1: our What was Eric?

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Speaker 2: He was an AD? Wasn't he?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, he wasn't a D He was a PA?

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Speaker 2: Was he a PA? But he was on the show

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Speaker 2: many many years.

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Speaker 4: No, he was on the show up until we took

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Speaker 4: the big break. Yes, and Eric was the AD. No,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Jonathan Right was.

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Speaker 2: The ad was the second ad, Dale was the first AD.

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Speaker 4: By the way Eric and I loved each other, we.

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Speaker 2: Became very Eric was a great guy, but he was

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Speaker 2: One of his.

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Speaker 4: Jobs was to give me cues when I'm going to

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Speaker 4: enter a scene like it almost So We're in a

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Speaker 4: closet and I did this to him twice. We're in

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Speaker 4: this little closet and I have to come out, and

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Speaker 4: I don't remember why I was in a closet, but

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Speaker 4: I have to come out. And when he gives me

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Speaker 4: the cueue, I rip a fart and the door has

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Speaker 4: to close behind me, and he's alone in this little closet.

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Speaker 4: Kind no, no, it's horrible. And I did it to

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Speaker 4: him twice. He said the second time, You're not going

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Speaker 4: to do that to me again, or the third time

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Speaker 4: whenever it was, I won't and Eric I did again. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: poor Eric. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Eric is playing the black man in the parking

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Speaker 1: lot and Larry gets out of his car and then

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Speaker 1: he realizes he didn't hit the fob to set.

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Speaker 2: The alarm, and you know, he hits it after the fact.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, a couple of yards away, and Eric

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Speaker 1: turns him and says, you think I'm going to steal

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Speaker 1: your car and it's not a race thing, and he

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Speaker 1: turns the alarm off. See, and then we see Wanda watching,

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Speaker 1: which you know, Wanda is a little bit too conveniently

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Speaker 1: there all the time.

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Speaker 4: No, she's shooting.

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Speaker 2: I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 4: I believed it completely. But I want to say that

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Speaker 4: Larry in these two scenes with Wanda, is in fact

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Speaker 4: a victim of circumstance. But I know absolutely there are

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Speaker 4: people I know, some that I'm very close to very well,

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Speaker 4: who really use that card almost all the time.

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Speaker 2: Which card are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Victim of circumstance? I go, there has to be sometimes

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Speaker 4: where you're in the wrong, where you've just made a

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Speaker 4: terrible mistake.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the guy who's constantly losing his job,

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Speaker 1: but it's everybody else's fault.

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Speaker 2: Well, there happens so many times.

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Speaker 1: After a while, it's like, eh, look in the mirror

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Speaker 1: of my friend exactly.

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Speaker 4: So Larry here twice is a victim of circumstance, which

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Speaker 4: is unusual, well not for the show. Quite often he is,

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Speaker 4: but it's with Wanda, and he doesn't have a leg

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Speaker 4: to stand on.

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Speaker 2: No, and Wanda says, you saw the black man, you say,

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Speaker 2: let me lock my car.

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Speaker 6: You put the alarm on.

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Speaker 2: The black man made you.

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Speaker 4: Go let me lock the car.

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Speaker 6: I just hadn't done it yet, it's all.

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Speaker 1: And do you think a black man will want that

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Speaker 1: piece of shit?

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Speaker 2: Piece of shit at toy cardl black man don't want

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Speaker 2: a toy car. Black man want a call with some

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Speaker 2: get up and go. And then she asked him, did

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Speaker 2: you hear back, No.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, hold on, you're skipping something,

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Speaker 4: which is what black man with the suit is gonna

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Speaker 4: get your car. Black man not dressed and nice, am

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Speaker 4: gonna steal your car? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then she asked him, did you hear back

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Speaker 2: about my script?

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Speaker 1: And Larry says he didn't like it, And then that's

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Speaker 1: when Wanda says, did you tell him I was black?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: You don't know how to play the card. And a

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Speaker 1: brown skin black, not like some light skin black. You know,

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Speaker 1: a dark black.

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Speaker 2: Now Larry is in.

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Speaker 1: The doctor's office and he's reading a golf magazine and

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Speaker 1: he's practicing his sweat current one.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, hold on, hold on, Larry David

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Speaker 4: with any tip that said, when we're working, when we're

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Speaker 4: not working.

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Speaker 2: He is always trying, always pressing air.

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Speaker 4: Swing too, never with the club, you know, And so

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Speaker 4: the fact that he did it on camera I think

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Speaker 4: is funny.

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Speaker 1: And he tells the doctor he loves the magazine Improvement

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Speaker 1: and he says it's one of the few.

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Speaker 2: Times anyone's taken my advice. And he's very very happy

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: And then Renee enters because he's going to be retested now,

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Speaker 1: and Larry won't look at her. He's looking at the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: He's looking to the left, to the right, and Renee says,

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Speaker 1: Bernie Dousonbury'll be here in ten minutes, and we see

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00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Larry's heart rate go up because Cheryl had told him

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Speaker 1: that Bernie Dowsonberry wants to kick his ass right right.

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Speaker 1: Then he's in bed with Cheryl with the monitor on

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Speaker 1: because he didn't pass the test again, and Seinfeld is

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Speaker 1: on and the surrogate changed her mind and is giving

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Speaker 1: up the baby, and Larry says, the penis is healed

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Speaker 1: as soon as I get rid of the monitor, and

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00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: the phone rings and they assume that Seinfeld is over

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00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: the rerun and they assume it's Marilyn. Larry's like don't

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00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: pick up, don't pick up. Shut the lights go to bed,

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Speaker 1: and the machine turns on and it's irving Shwimmer.

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Speaker 4: This deserve Shwimmer, You motherfucking cock sucking son of a bitch.

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Speaker 4: Paster sounds like your character.

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Speaker 2: It did, but it wasn't. It was serving Swimmer. And

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we call a button.

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Speaker 2: That is a button. Yeah, that's a great ending, by

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Speaker 2: the way, it's a great button.

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Speaker 4: But that show is one of those things where it

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00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 4: goes in and out and crosses over and you don't

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00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: know where it's gonna meet. It's pretty brilliant that show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's a good There's there's a lot of

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00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: good ones in this season, you know, and I think

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00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good ones in prior seasons.

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00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: But you see a rhythm getting more. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So we will see you next time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and thank you all for listening very much.

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Speaker 3: The history of.

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