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Speaker 1: A fresh show.

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Speaker 2: It's Kiki's courting, all right, So all rights, the honorable

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Speaker 2: Kik a leek judge, Kiki take it away.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's step in the courtroom. The gavel has

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Speaker 3: been hit, it says Kiki. My name is Dana. My

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Speaker 3: husband had an affair ten years ago. We separated for

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Speaker 3: a few years, but eventually got back together. However, my

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Speaker 3: husband had a child with his mistress, and it's taken

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Speaker 3: a big toll on our family. Surprisingly, more than anything,

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Speaker 3: it's really messed up my relationship with my mother in

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Speaker 3: law because she has been very intentional about maintaining a

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Speaker 3: relationship with my husband's break baby. Every holiday, she buys

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Speaker 3: gifts and invites my husband's other son over, and I've

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Speaker 3: expressed to her many times over the years how it

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Speaker 3: some boundaries, and my kids are no longer allowed to

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Speaker 3: visit their grandparents' home without me or my husband present. Well,

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Speaker 3: last week I noticed that my in laws took my

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Speaker 3: husband's break baby on a disney vacation and no one

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Speaker 3: reached out.

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Speaker 4: To invite my kids.

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Speaker 3: I was heartbroken, and when I saw the photos, my

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Speaker 3: husband confronted his parents about the trip, and their excuse

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Speaker 3: is that they're tired of me trying to control when

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Speaker 3: they can see their grandkids.

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Speaker 4: But that is not my intention.

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Speaker 3: I just want respect for my marriage and my kids,

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Speaker 3: and I think my in laws are now trying to

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, what say you?

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Speaker 3: Well, Dana, honey, I love you, and there are a

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Speaker 3: few things wrong here, but it is not your in lass.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: If you took your cheating husband back and you know

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Speaker 3: that he created a child with another woman when you

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Speaker 3: took him back, you should.

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Speaker 4: Have accepted his child. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I don't appreciate you calling his child a break

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Speaker 4: It's just that's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Then, on top of that, you can't gatekeep your kids

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Speaker 3: you don't like that they're you know, involving their other

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Speaker 3: grandchild or being nice to their other grandchild. You try to, well,

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Speaker 3: my kids can't go over there, and unless I'm there,

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Speaker 3: that's insane. So why would I Why would they invite

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Speaker 3: to go to Disney.

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Speaker 4: I just I think it's so wild if.

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Speaker 2: They know there's an issue, so they're keeping the relationship

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Speaker 2: separate because they know there's an issue. The grandparents aren't

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Speaker 2: gonna do like they're they're doing their thing over here

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Speaker 2: with that because they know that it would be too

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Speaker 2: stressful or hurtful or whatever to put it all together.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, because had they invited your kids, you would have said, well,

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Speaker 3: why is the break baby gone? You know, you would

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Speaker 3: have tried to stop them from including the other child.

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Speaker 4: And that's not right.

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Speaker 5: Em.

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Speaker 1: I love how she calls it a break baby, but

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Speaker 1: that is your step son exactly.

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Speaker 4: That is your husband's son, and that's the siblings to

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Speaker 4: your kids. Did that happen with Dwayne Wade? Am I

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Speaker 4: making this up when him and Gabrielle Union broke up?

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Speaker 4: Didn't he have a baby? He did have a baby, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then they got back together. Obviously interesting.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys are the jury eight five, five, five nine one

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Speaker 3: The grandparents are not wrong bro for not inviting you,

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Speaker 3: I mean inviting your kids like you've you set that boundary.

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Speaker 3: You said that the grand they're not allowed to be

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Speaker 3: alone with the kids anymore because they love their other grandchild.

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Speaker 3: You started that.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, But I guess what I wonder

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Speaker 2: is she has to acknowledge the existence of the child

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Speaker 2: the break baby quote unquote. I'm only using that because

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Speaker 2: but she has to acknowledge that the child exists in

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Speaker 2: respect that. But does she have to? Does she have

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Speaker 2: to include that child in her life? I don't think

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Speaker 2: because they have the same father. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: you said she has to accept this child? Does she

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, she has to because she accepted her

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Speaker 3: cheating husband. Yes, and this is this is a child

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Speaker 3: accept what comes with him, and that's his child. Baby's

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Speaker 3: innocent exactly, and that child is now your kid's sibling.

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Speaker 3: So how dare you treat this child the way you're

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's why the grandparents did this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's the only reason that the grandparents probably would have

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Speaker 2: that if it was too expensive, but to take everybody.

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Speaker 2: But they would have done something that includes every all

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Speaker 2: they probably didn't include the other kids out of respect

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Speaker 2: for the for the mom and the boundaries right.

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Speaker 3: That she said, So, how dare you get upset and say,

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Speaker 3: you know, the grandparents are wrong because they didn't invite

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Speaker 3: my kids to Disney, but they took the other grandchild.

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Speaker 4: You set the boundaries, my girl. You did this. You

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Speaker 4: don't want to have anything to do with the break baby.

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Speaker 1: You take them the Disney.

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Speaker 4: You can't come because it's in your rules. You say

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Speaker 4: you don't want to be around the other kids.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 2: Hey Brenda, good morning, Brenda, Hi, good morning. Hey Kiky's court,

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Speaker 2: what say you.

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 7: When Kiki first responded, I was like, this is the

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Speaker 7: wrong point.

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Speaker 8: Because what how does a child How is it any

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Speaker 8: of the child's fault right that this is something that

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Speaker 8: the father decided to do. This is still a human

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Speaker 8: being at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 8: So for.

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Speaker 4: What was what your name, Dana the writer?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for her to be so adamant about keeping this

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Speaker 8: child away, you're ruining somebody, somebody else's whole life too.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why why should the kid feel like a

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Speaker 2: pariah that part? I understand the kid didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: The kid was, you know, the product of a of

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Speaker 2: a of a dysfunctional relationship at the time. But that

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean the kids shouldn't have grandparents. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that matter, doesn't mean the kid shouldn't have grandparents.

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Speaker 1: And you're right.

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Speaker 2: The only reason the other kids we're invited, I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: the smoke right exactly.

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Speaker 6: And maybe maybe.

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Speaker 8: They're going to do a separate trip with the other.

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Speaker 5: Kids, who knows.

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Speaker 8: But for her to assume that they're just doing it

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Speaker 8: to piss her off, that's completely wrong. And I think

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Speaker 8: the grandparents are amazing, first of all, for accepting a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it would never be me.

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Speaker 8: I would never I would never accept a cheating husband

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Speaker 8: she made the decision to get back with him.

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Speaker 4: You're taking him and the baby, yes, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the part that I think I have a

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Speaker 2: hard time with them. Again, I'm not saying you don't

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Speaker 2: you have to have with that kid, I don't, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think that the mother is required

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Speaker 2: to have interaction with the baby out of wedlock, will

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Speaker 2: call it, but she doesn't necessarily have the right to

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Speaker 2: tell everybody else in the immediate family how they're going

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Speaker 2: to handle themselves with this child, because it's not the

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the alternative.

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Speaker 2: Everybody just pretends this kid doesn't exist and the kid

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Speaker 2: is the one that suffers. No, that's because I think

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Speaker 2: that does happen a lot of times, where you know,

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Speaker 2: whether you're cheating and there's a baby or a wedlocked

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that. And and here here

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Speaker 2: his parents are trying to make it right for everybody.

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Speaker 1: So they're the real heroes here.

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Speaker 8: I think so they are.

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Speaker 2: I think you sure, Yeah, thank you, Brenda, Thank you

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Speaker 2: have a great dan gud you called.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hannah, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What do you think so?

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Speaker 7: The first of all, when like everybody else says, when

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Speaker 7: she took him back, she knew what she was getting.

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Speaker 7: But the best thing that she can do is embrace

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Speaker 7: the relationship between her biological children and their half siblings.

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Speaker 7: But karma is real, right. There could be a day

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Speaker 7: something happened medically and she eat something from this, this

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Speaker 7: do is embrace this that blended family. You took him back,

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Speaker 7: his mistakes and this child, all love from the child.

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Speaker 7: That's the best thing for her own mental health and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too, Thank you, Hannah.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, have a good day.

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Speaker 2: Someone texted, why does fread sound like he smoked three

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Speaker 2: packs of Newports this weekend? Well, because I was outside,

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Speaker 2: always had a toy drive, but I was smoking Newports.

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Speaker 2: The whole time. So that's that's exactly why. Hey Cynthia,

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Speaker 2: all weekend. But Cynthia, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: So I think we need a little more information. I

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Speaker 5: feel like necessarily the grandparents are not wrong, but like

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Speaker 5: if she imposed these boundaries, let's say this weekend, right

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Speaker 5: and the very first time that they're going to agree

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Speaker 5: to her boundaries, they do this grand gesture for this

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Speaker 5: quote unquote break baby. Like maybe that's what's hitting the

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Speaker 5: talking about there's these boundaries and she has these rules

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Speaker 5: have done. M but do you.

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Speaker 3: Agree with our boundaries though? Do you think our boundary

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Speaker 5: I feel like her boundary is it's fine for herself.

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Speaker 5: Like I think if she wants to be there for

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Speaker 5: kids are treated equal. That's fine, but you can't say

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Speaker 2: Not only that, but somebody has to probably even encourage,

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But yeah, but yet you

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Speaker 5: With you over something that she feels you know, she

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Speaker 5: But are you going to put my kids to the

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Speaker 2: Friend Ted's mom was cheated on. Yes, my friend Ted's

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Speaker 1: Everybody else does, the dad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, why is she in the wrong for not embracing this.

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Speaker 3: Child because she decided to take her cheating husband back.

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Speaker 2: But that's between the two of them. What do you

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Speaker 3: Yeah she does, because now she's married to this child's dad.

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Speaker 4: Her kids are their siblings. Yeah, right, And.

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Speaker 3: In your case, because your mom did not take your

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. She cut all ties with him,

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Speaker 1: It was over what I talk about working about ted.

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Speaker 4: She did not take him back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And you cannot police the grandparents on how to

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Speaker 4: Scorn that's nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with that too, that's the I agree,

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Speaker 1: Hey, you're saying what a lot of people in the

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Speaker 1: He should be addressed in that.

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Speaker 6: Wife, you can't do my kid like that, even if

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Speaker 6: I made the mistake, that's my kid with a package deal.

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Speaker 2: Around exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, where is seeing all this?

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Speaker 4: Well, he's taking his.

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Speaker 4: How? Like what?

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Speaker 1: Now that dude now sound like him? Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: He is the problem because he should be like, look,

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Speaker 1: He's a deadbeat.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have all my kids together. My parents

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Speaker 1: Next more Fredshell next right here,