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So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: My neighbor keeps calling the cops on us for noise 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: complaints multiple times a day. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Maybe your neighbor is a bat and they have very 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: good hearing, and. 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: We have a drugger warning, slap my bat. 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: Watch out. 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: My parents, who are in their mid fifties and I 14 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: twenty five, have lived in this township my entire life. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: Many of our neighbors know my parents well and we 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: have always gotten along just fine. Recently, a new neighbor 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: moved in next to us with her boyfriend, both in 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: their mid twenties, in December twenty twenty four. Since then, 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: she has called the police on us multiple times during 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: the day and has also contacted our town's health department. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Oh Well, and if 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: you want to submit your our own stories, go to 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: the Carslage Okay Storytime Stepreddit. 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm Carly, I'm Dakota. 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: Oh well, I'm Keon and we're here. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: To give good advice. Goofily, but we don't have all 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: the answers. We only know what we would do. Let's 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: let us know what you would do in the comments. 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: As Op says for context, my dad owns multiple vehicles 30 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: and motorcycles and does repairs on them, mostly on weekends 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: during the day when he is on vacation weeks he 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: may do this during the week, but still during the day. 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: He plays music at a low level, more like background noise, 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: and it cannot be heard from the street. He has 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: been doing this for decades without any issues from neighbors. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: From what we have gathered, this neighbor works from home, 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: although we are not sure what she does. She has 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: approached my dad several times to tell him to stop 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: playing music and doing repairs during the day and night. 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Well, when else is he supposed to do him, Linda 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: or whatever your name is. 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: She has also told him he needs to get rid 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: of his truck because it's too loud and rattles her windows. 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: It's a nineteen sixty nine Chevrolet truck and if you 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: know older vehicles, they tend to have deeper engine sounds. 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: This neighbor has put up a new flimsy fence nailed 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: to ours and smeared calking all over her windows. To 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: try to muffle the sound, she has tossed weeds and 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: grass onto our driveway and has started pestering other neighbors 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: for doing their normal everyday yard work. 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Aw Man, it turns out your neighbor Jest is a 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: miserable person. That's all this is. 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it no longer feels like this is just about noise. 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: I've started keeping logs of the police visits because it 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: has reached a ridiculous level. We have had police come 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: multiple times in a single day for the same issue. 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: Apparently the police already know who is making the calls, 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: but I figured it was best to keep my own 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: records as well. I am honestly appall. We live in 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: a rough little township with no ha and barely any enforcement. 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: Freight trains pass through just a few streets over, and 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: the high school hosts games that get extremely loud throughout 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: the year. I have no idea what this woman is 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: trying to achieve or if she has some specific issue 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: with us, possibly even related to race, uh, although that 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: would not make much sense since her relationship is interracial. 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: Two sorry, for rambling. I am just exhausted from dealing 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: with this woman and her constant intimidation. Edit. Clarifying some 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: points I've seen. My dad does not do repair or 70 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: yard work every day. Most of the time. It is 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: limited two weekends during his vacation weeks. He may work 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: more often, but certainly not every day. Other neighbors also 73 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: do repairs, yard work, and play music during the day, 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: but her issue seems to be with us Specifically, he 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: has a garage where the music stays contained. He does 76 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: not blast music from the driveway, and the garage is 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: a separate building at the very back of our yard. 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: This has been the case for the last thirty years 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: my parents have lived here, and she's the first neighbor 80 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: to ever complain. This neighbor sometimes calls multiple times a day. 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: As of right now, I'm setting up a meeting or 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: call with the police department to figure out next steps. 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: We have tried to work with her, but she's been 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: hostile whenever we have attempted a civil conversation. And we 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: have a small update yikes. 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think at this point, if the 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: police knows she's the one call and she's just gonna 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: get herself in trouble by making all of these like 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: necessary calls. 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: Like how many times are the police can be called 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: in the same day before they're like, hey, can you 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: actually like stop calling us? 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 94 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 6: Don't they be like, all right, we've checked it out. Maybe, 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 6: like I think it's like two times, and then you're like, 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 6: there's no there's nothing right, stop calling, Yeah, like we 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: won't show up anymore. 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't Maybe it's like a state thing. 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. 100 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: Also, like noise complaints aren't even technically like illegal, it's 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: more just like they show up and the cops you're like. 102 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: Would you please just turn it down? 103 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Would you please be more quiet? Like there's nothing, They 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: won't give you a ticket, Like, I don't think in 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: most I mean, I guess it depends place to place, 106 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: but for the most part, it's like a it's just 107 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: a complaint. So I don't know, I would just fully 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: ignore her until she just goes away. Yeah, I don't 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: know what else. 110 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: You could do. 111 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, we got a wild update. 112 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: Oh boy, oh boy, we're. 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Going down a legal route. The neighbor attacked me yesterday 114 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: when I got home from worse. 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: Oh. 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: The five thing is stay to the face. I'm calling 117 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: the police. 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: You're not sure what her issue is, but I hope 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: we can resolve this soon. I'm so tired. We have 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: some relevant comments. Commenter one. Keep notes every time the 121 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: police come because of a complaint, what the complaint was, 122 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: what the police said, date and time. If you ever 123 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: need to demonstrate intimidation, this will help, Opie says, I 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: have a journal full of these visits. Now. My dad 125 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: is having me research how to get her on intimidation, 126 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: and since it's causing a lot of stress for us 127 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: and our other neighbors, I forgot to mention I do 128 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: try to keep track of the fight she has with 129 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: her boyfriend too. She gets into screaming matches with him 130 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: a lot that everyone over around the neighborhood can hear. 131 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: Are we calling her on a noise complaint? 132 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, how the turn turn tables. 133 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: It's time to call the police again. 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: Commenter two. I'm surprised the cops showed up since it's 135 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: during the day and most places don't have daytime noise ordinances. 136 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Where I'm from, this would be considered a nuisance call 137 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: to the police, and they ticket the person for excessive reporting, 138 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: Ope says, I'm surprised too. We do have quite a 139 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: bit of day to day at noise between the schools 140 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: and the trains. I work at night and I can 141 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: sleep through these noises just fine, so I'm not sure 142 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: what her problem is. Communder two, it's time for you 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: to go to the police station and ask to speak 144 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: to the supervisor on duty. Then file a police report 145 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: with them for your neighbor pestering you. If the other 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: neighbors are having issues with her, they need to do 147 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: the same. Opie says, thank you. I plan to do 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: so in the next few days, if not today. She's 149 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: called three times today alone, uh Opie clarifying details on 150 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: the noise ordinance during the daytime that could have affected 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: the neighbor's working hours at home, Opie says, Yeah, we've 152 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: kept the music low or none at all, and my 153 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: dad and I usually don't idle our trucks for long, 154 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: maybe a minute or two at most. I leave at 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: midnight and he leaves around six am. The police have 156 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: confirmed with us that we're not violating any noise ordinance 157 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: laws and that her complaints are unfounded. Edit Toad, it's 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: not just the music. She calls over. It's general yard work, 159 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: repair work my dad does and the other neighbors do 160 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: during the day. She also calls multiple times per day. 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not every day, even on his vacation weeks. 162 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: Usually it's on the weekends if he has time. Neighbor 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: tends to call every time he's doing something outside in 164 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: his garage or out in the yard. We've been trying 165 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: to work with her, but she either screams at us, 166 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: ignored us. She wears big headphones outside or resorts to 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: calling the police. Uh. 168 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 169 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: Ours is sixty decibels during the day and noise restrictions 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: are eleven pm two six am. Update two one month later. 171 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: I yeah, at this point, I'd be like, is there 172 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: a way I can cut her phone line? Is there 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: some way I can distract her with like a shiny object? Yeah, 174 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe give her a treasure map with 175 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: a big red X on it somewhere that she can 176 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: go and search for. She's just bored. Give her something 177 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: to do her task. She's so bored. 178 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: Maybe she just also really wants to do the work 179 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: on the cars. Invite her over. 180 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's her big secret. 181 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: She's a big carboy. At heart. 182 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 7: I'm actually a Chevy truck girl. 183 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: I actually always wanted a Chevy truck from nineteen sixty nine. 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know how to do it. 185 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: Uh, hello again, road it. I hope you're doing well. 186 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: Forgive me, I'm I'm not too sure how updates work 187 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: in this sub A quick deald are of my original post. 188 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: My neighbor's been calling noise complaints repeatedly since she moved 189 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: in with her boyfriend next door in late twenty twenty four. 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Complaints are about my dad's music truck starting the morning 191 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: yardwork repair during the day. Let me address the commonly 192 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: asked questions that I saw. How loud is the music? 193 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: How often do these activities occur? Sixty decibels is the 194 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: limit during the day. This is about as loud as 195 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: a vacuum cleaner, according to the Health Department. When we 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: called them to verify, my dad and I marked the 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: sound setting on hystereo's volume knob, so we won't go 198 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: over that limit. Generally, the music is much lower. We 199 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: can have a normal conversation without the music drowning us out. 200 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: My guess is that it's forty decibels and below. But 201 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: I don't have a device specific for that measurement. My 202 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: dad doesn't have the music playing or is doing yard 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: work repair work every day. He keeps these to the 204 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: weekends unless he has a week off from work. Even 205 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 3: then he doesn't do it every day. Isn't a part 206 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: of the house. It's all the way in the back 207 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: of our backyard and he keeps the music contained in 208 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: there and the repairs. These activities that we do are 209 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: usually in the afternoon around one pm and later. Sometimes 210 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: we do stuff earlier, like eleven or ten am in 211 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: the summers because of the heat. Our neighbor only calls 212 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: the police during the week with many calls happening around noon, 213 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: even when we're not home. She doesn't do this during 214 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: the weekends or when I or my mom are doing 215 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: yard work in the front yard. It's only when my 216 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: dad's on vacation and he's doing some kind of yard 217 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: work or repair work with the music playing at a 218 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: low level. What have we done to reduce noise? As 219 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: I said before, we contacted the health department, I believe 220 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: that's what they're called in English, to verify noise ordinance 221 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: and anything we can do to help alleviate the problem. 222 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: We've made sure the noise is within legal limits, but 223 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: there's only so much we can do when we have 224 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: things that we need to take care of and are 225 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: legally allowed to do on our own property. My dad 226 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: keeps his repair work and music within his garage. It 227 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: was added on to the property before my parents bought 228 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: the house, so it's not directly to the side of 229 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: the neighbor's house. It's in the very back. We verified 230 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: with the detective that the level of sound coming out 231 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: of the garage is actually quite quiet, and shouldn't it 232 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: be causing that level of disturbance. The neighbor says, it does. 233 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 6: I feel like we're doing so much extra stuff when 234 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 6: we're like, we know that you're not being loud. 235 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 236 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Can you imagine being the detective on this. 237 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: I was wondering if they just meant like some sort 238 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: of detector thing. 239 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: No, they just literally it's just a guy there being like, 240 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: oh my god, we're investigating noise. We're investigating I have 241 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: to do decibel readings for this guy's stereo. See what. 242 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: We have tried talking to the neighbor and her boyfriend 243 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: to figure out a solution, but have been met with 244 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: nothing but hostility. She wants nothing to do with us. 245 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: We did allow her and her boyfriend to use our 246 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: fence posts to build their own fence onto, but this 247 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: fence doesn't go the whole length of their property. It 248 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: only goes to the garage entrance, not all the way 249 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: to the back of the property. Maybe that's the reason 250 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: why she can hear the sounds. We know that she's 251 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: been adding noise proofing to her house, but outside of that, 252 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what else we can do. We discussed 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: some details with the detective, and the detective verified that 254 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: we have done as much as we can within our 255 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: power to reduce the noise. Also, this neighbor has called 256 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: upwards of fifty times in the last two months alone 257 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: for the same issue. 258 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: How is that not her getting like right? Why isn't 259 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: or like whatever they. 260 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: Do if she needs? 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy? 262 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: How did you get to fifty? I was thinking, like 263 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: past ten times, you'd be like, dude, I would give 264 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: her like a you know what I would do. I'd 265 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: be like gift ear muffs. You're welcome, you said. 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: She wears noise canceling headphones outside it. 267 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Double she needs like the aircraft carrier? 268 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: How big are her ears. She got. 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Elephant bat ears. 270 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: She's also visited the precinct enough that she's become a 271 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: nuisance to them. Please let me know if I've missed anything. 272 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: I will answer any questions I'm able to. All right, 273 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: so the update. I added a small update to my 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: original posts on the day of But on the twenty 275 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: fourth of May, the neighbor confronted me after I'd gotten 276 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: home from work. I wasn't in the mood to really 277 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: talk to people. Night shift is brutal, much less her, 278 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: so when she started bombarding me with questions about why 279 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: I wasn't listening to her complaints, I told her I'd 280 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: just gone home and had better things to do rather 281 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: than listen to her complaints. I tried to leave the 282 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: situation after that and go into my house, but she 283 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: slapped me and told me I was a disrespectful witch 284 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: and I shouldn't talk to her like that. And she's older. 285 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: I don't know her actual age, but I know she's young. 286 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: I tried to disengage after that, but she refuses to stop. 287 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: One of our other neighbors saw the commotion and called 288 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: the police. It's been a whole thing. We're considering going 289 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: for more than just harmful act charges. When we're able 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: to this incident, plus my journalogs and the records the 291 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: police have, we do have a case. I'm just tired 292 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: of this situation, and so are my parents. At least 293 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: my best friend and girlfriend are enjoying the drama. 294 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 7: Lool. 295 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: We have some relevant comments coming to one. Was she arrested, 296 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: press charges for f's sake and get a restraining order 297 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: or the equivalent where you are I hope, he says, Yeah, 298 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: she was. It's a first time offense, but we've been 299 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: working with the police to figure out legal steps. I 300 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: hope we can get a restraining order after this. I'm 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: under two. You are into lawyer land cameras. Get cameras, 302 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: have them doing a three sixty a round that house. 303 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: Even better if you can have the cameras record audio. 304 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: Double check your local laws. I know in Texas perfectly 305 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: legal to have outdoor cameras record audio as zero exceptions 306 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: of privacy outside including backyard. Yes, I learned it all 307 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: from my own neighbor in having to do it. Get 308 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: a lawyer to send a cease and assist letter to 309 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: them and serve them with it, basically telling them in 310 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: very legalized terms to f off and do not talk 311 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: to you or interact with you. Same lawyers start the 312 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: process of getting a restraining order and collecting evidence for that. 313 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: Your cameras will help greatly in that department, as it 314 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: will show proof, keep a log book and report any 315 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: violation she does to the police. Do not interact with 316 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: your neighbor at all, no speaking, no nothing. If they 317 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: speak to you, all you say is you need to 318 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: talk to my lawyer. There's no direct convocation. You will 319 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: always go through a third party, that being the cops 320 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: or your lawyer. Be ready to file a lawsuit. Chances 321 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: are your lawyer will gear up for that as well. 322 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: The civil lawsuit is more about making the restraining order 323 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: case stronger. And is that other big scary stick that 324 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: forces people in line. I am sorry you were dealing 325 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: with this. That list above is what I had to 326 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: do to deal with my piece of prap neighbor. Now 327 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: I ended up moving over it, but had to get 328 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: all that in place to force them in line so 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: we could sell the place and get some peace. The 330 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: restraining order to make them back off, and then the 331 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: lawsuit as a big stick to keep them scared. Plus 332 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: if they do anything to hurt the cell of the house. 333 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: It is my big stick to go after the landlord. No, 334 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: he says, thank you. Been in the process of buying cameras. 335 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: Money's tight them. We do have some legal stuff started, lawsuit, 336 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: ro etc. Due to the Harmful Act, so that's a start. 337 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: I've been logging everything into a journal too, along with 338 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: photos of my injuries. We also stopped interacting with her 339 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: altogether a few weeks before. My first post SOW no 340 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: issue there. I do hope this resolves quickly, and my 341 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: parents and I just want our piece back. We have 342 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: another update three months later. 343 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Put urbin jail, urbin jail. 344 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: Why is she not saying any consequences, like real consequences. 345 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: Because she's probably an old lady. 346 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: No, she's submitted twenties. 347 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, maybe she's in a mid twenties. But 348 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: she looks like an old lady. 349 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: Pro Maybe that's why she's so grumpy. 350 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: That's why she's still like an old lady. I mean 351 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: my mid twenties. I'm like, I'm eighty and I don't 352 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: even have Benjamin Button disorder. 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: I just look like an old lady. I do apologize 354 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: for taking so long to get back to you all. 355 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: I was in a work accident in July and have 356 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: been dealing with a TBI ever since. Oh no, that's 357 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: not good. That and life has been busy for me 358 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: with good things. I wish I could say I have 359 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: a good, dramatic update, but it's rather bland. Man. Nothing 360 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: huge happened. My neighbor was slapped with community service and 361 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: given an order to stop wasting police resources and a fine. 362 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: She lost her job, so her parents have moved into 363 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: the property in a camper to help her out. 364 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's usually when you lose your job in your 365 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: mid twenties, you move in with your parents. They don't 366 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: move into an RV in your that's crazy reverts. 367 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: We haven't had any problems since. My dad thinks they'll 368 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: move within the year or during the winter, since the 369 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: winters get super bad here. So yeah, nothing crazy, just 370 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: a woman being slapped with consequences of her actions. She 371 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: hasn't bothered us since, and my family couldn't be happier. 372 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: Oh and we did get a nice new security camera 373 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: for our property, so some things are looking up. If 374 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: anything major happens, I'll post another update, but for now 375 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: I'll be back to lurking. Thanks again read it. I 376 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: hope you all have a good day wherever you're at. 377 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: And edit to add I forgot to mention something I 378 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: think you guys will enjoy. My dad is a beloved 379 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: member of our community on the street we live on, 380 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: so a lot of the older folks have taken to 381 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: causing as much noise as possible to piss off the neighbor. 382 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: Yay, it's a team effort. It takes a village. Huh. 383 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: Needless to say, I think it worked. We have another update. 384 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: Yay, jail, jail, go to jail or like just somewhere else. 385 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 6: She probably was like since her parents like moved, then 386 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 6: she's she's probably calling the cops to be like the 387 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: people in my yard, they're like, they're so loud. 388 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: She's calling the cops, like, my mom won't let me 389 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: go out past eleven pm. 390 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: They're too dang loud, too loud. 391 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: Police. 392 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: My parents are telling me to fill out something called 393 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: a jaw application, and I'm really I'm scared. 394 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: This update's relatively short, but it's a very happy ending. 395 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: The neighbor and her boyfriend broke up and they have 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: sold the house. They've since moved out and we'll probably 397 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: have new neighbors soon. My dad and his neighborhood buddies 398 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: have been celebrating about it quite a bit. Even my 399 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: wife and girlfriend have been laughing about it. We're all 400 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: glad she's gone. All the legal stuff's been figured out too, 401 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: so cheers. Anyway, that's my final update for this full debacle. 402 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 5: I'll go into it. I'm I'm going to this and 403 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: I need to see a comment or a reply. So 404 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: what what that means? 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: I'm guessing maybe no, his mom and his girlfriend, or 406 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: maybe he should. 407 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: I don't know. 408 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: I figure out what that meant. 409 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: Your mom can't be your wife, not in this day. 410 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: I was hoping maybe, like he was saying, like, and 411 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: my dad's wife, why are they deleted? 412 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: And they're deleted? 413 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: That's why he got deleted because of wife and girlfriend. 414 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: Just surprise Polly right at the end there anyways, open marriage. 415 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, that's my final update for this whole deboggle. Thank 416 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: you Reddit folks for sticking around for it, and if 417 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: you've kept up with my updates, I hope you all 418 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: have a wonderful holiday season. Cheers. Opie clarifies on his relationship. Ah, yeah, 419 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: I have two partners poll cul uh huh. It's a 420 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: multi generational household due to cultural, health and financial reasons. 421 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: I live in the US in a place with quite 422 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: high cost of living, so it makes sense to clarify. 423 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: My dad doesn't run any businesses out of his garage. 424 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: He likes to tinker and fix vehicles he owns, always has. 425 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: It's more a hobby than everything. Two people that live 426 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: in my house are me, my parents, and my wife. 427 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: My girlfriend has her own house. A couple of town's over. 428 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, at least it's keep your girlfriend a couple. Maybe 429 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: that's it. 430 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: Maybe your wife. 431 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: Your girlfriend close. You keep your girlfriend close, You keep 432 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: your wife closer. 433 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: When you've got a wife polycule with a girlfriend, it 434 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: helps to make sure your girlfriend is out of town, 435 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: lives out of town. 436 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: Well, maybe the girlfriend can take the house that's opening 437 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: next door. 438 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: So where are you at? Oh, I'm in girlfriend town tonight, 439 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: but I'll be back in wife town in a couple couple, 440 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: wife's city, wife city, and girlfriend town. Yeah, there we go, 441 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: girlfriend village. 442 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: And somebody comments you mentioned she you in your last story. 443 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: Anything happened with that besays? In terms of the legal side, 444 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: she received community service and a fine. We considered a 445 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: no contact order slash restraining order, but didn't pursue it. 446 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 3: In the end, I just see. 447 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: That was just really funny that he's like my wife 448 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 6: and my girlfriend thought it was hilarious, and you go, wait, 449 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 6: where did that come from? 450 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: Well, because it wasn't mentioned, No, I. 451 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: Was never mentioned. It was never pertinent to the story really, 452 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: but it. 453 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: Was just like I thought, anytime he was saying it, 454 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: he was just switching between like saying wife and saying girlfriend, 455 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: and he just like it wasn't clarifying which one it 456 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: was not a front. We've both been there the whole time. 457 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're going to 458 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: go to the next one. 459 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: My neighbor has prohibited us from parking on the street, 460 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: but I won't back down. 461 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: Do they own the street? They do not, exactly. 462 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: My partner and I male thirty six and female thirty five, 463 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: recently moved from the city to a small village because 464 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: we wanted better schooling options for our two year old. 465 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: Like most moves, we've had a long to do list 466 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 2: fixing up the house and we've been steadily working through it. 467 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user spirited Warthog twenty 468 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: six six and if you want to submit your own stories, 469 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: go to the r Slashowcase story Time subur I'm Dakota. 470 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and. 471 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: We're ready to give good advice goofy, but we don't 472 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We only know what we would do, 473 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments. Okay, 474 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: and Op says. One major issue has been our electric gates, 475 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: which have started failing and randomly locking shut. When that happens, 476 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: both of our cars get trapped on the driveway, and 477 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: in the past we've even had to take taxis just 478 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: to get our child to nursery. We've had two different 479 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: companies inspected the gates and both confirmed that not only 480 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: are the gates faulty, but the manual override is broken 481 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: as well. We were told it's an expensive job to 482 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: replace everything. The gates do work sometimes, but not reliably, 483 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: so we decided the safest solution was to park our 484 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: family car on the street so we would always have 485 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: access to it. About a week ago, my partner got 486 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: into the car and found a wet note on the windscreen. 487 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: It had been rating heavily, so the note was completely unreadable. Curious, 488 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: I messaged the neighbors to one side of us and 489 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: across the road, since I had their numbers, I explain 490 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: aim that a note had been left on the car, 491 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: that it wasn't legible, and that if it was from them, 492 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 2: we were happy to talk. I mentioned that I assumed 493 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: it might be about parking. Everyone replied saying it wasn't 494 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: them and that they had no issue at all with 495 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: where we were parking. My partner later bumped into another neighbor, John, 496 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: who also confirmed that he had no problem with the 497 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: car being parked there. A couple of days later, another 498 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: note appeared on the car, saying to the owner of 499 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: this car, can you please stop parking outside our wall. 500 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: It was signed with the name of a house, John's House. 501 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: Don't dun't dun't John? 502 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Why you lying to me? Man, I'm coming to you 503 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: face to face. You've got nothing to say to. 504 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: Me, John, John's a little liar. 505 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: Come on. John, the same neighbor who had told my 506 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: partner days earlier that he had no issue with it. 507 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: Which is weird but okay for context. We could park 508 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: directly outside our house, but it feels dangerous. We live 509 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: on the corner of a narrow sh coming off a 510 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: busy road, and if we park outside our house drivers 511 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: turning in our face with a dark, barely visible car 512 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: due to poor street lighting. The spot we chose was 513 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: about thirty feet from our house, directly under a street lamp, 514 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: where visibility is far better. The next day we received 515 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: another note saying I have told you already to stop 516 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: parking in front of all wall. To try and stop 517 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: this from escalating, we decided to write a note back 518 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: introducing ourselves, confirming the car was ours, and explaining our 519 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: reasoning for parking there. When my partner went to drop 520 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: off the note, John's wife appeared at the door before 521 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: she could even knock. According to my partner, the woman 522 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: took a slightly aggressive stance and said, you will not 523 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: park there again. I will not allow it. I don't 524 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: want to see your car there after tonight. No real 525 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: reasoning was given other than that she didn't like it 526 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: and felt it made the street look messy. 527 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: Should rat her out to John, who seems like a 528 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: chill guy. 529 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: Or he was lying, I'd have been lying. He might 530 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: have been lying. 531 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: That'd be sad. I don't want John to be a liar. 532 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: When my partner tried to leave and said she wanted 533 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: to speak with me about it, the woman followed her 534 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: down the driveway, continuing to question where we intended to 535 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: park the car in the future. During that conversation, when 536 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: safety came up, the woman mentioned that she knows oh 537 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 2: about safety because she works at a local nursery. I 538 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: hope it's not your nursery. 539 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 7: Oh my god. 540 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: My partner, caught off guard, responded by saying that our 541 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: child attends that very nursery. Now, this frustrated neighbor knows 542 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: our child could be under her supervision. She didn't know 543 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: our child's name or what they look like yet, but 544 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: she does know our address, and I'm sure our details 545 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: could easily be accessed through nursery systems if someone wanted 546 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: to look. The very next morning, another note appeared saying, 547 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: as agreed stop parking your car in front of our wall. 548 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: So to be clear, we had not agreed to anything 549 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: at this point because of the nursery connection. I wanted 550 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: to de escalate the situation. I bought chocolates and wrote 551 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: what I felt was a respectful note explaining our position. 552 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: I explained the safety concerns, acknowledged that the road is public, 553 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: stated that we intended to continue parking there, and offered 554 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: to move the car temporarily if they needed space for 555 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: gardening work. For context, there is around three feet of 556 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: space between their wall and the car, but we understand 557 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: it could be easier for them if they are trimming hedges. 558 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: My partner delivered the note while I was picking up 559 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: our child. By the time I got home, the neighbor 560 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: was on our porch, raising her voice at my partner. 561 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: I approached, handed our child to their mom and took 562 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: over the conversation. At that point, she now also knew 563 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: what our child looked like. She handed back the chocolates 564 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: and the note, saying she would not accept them. She 565 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: insisted we were disrespectful, claimed she had never had trouble 566 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: with neighbors before, and said we needed to fix our 567 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: gates instead of parking on the street. 568 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: You want to pay for it. We'll park in our 569 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: gates if you pay for it. 570 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: I asked her directly what her actual issue with the 571 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: parking was, and all she would say was I just 572 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: don't like it. There there were no access issues or 573 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: safety concerns. She told me to park in front of 574 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: another neighbor's house and suggested I needed to have a 575 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: word with my partner because she doesn't listen. Ooh oh my, 576 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: I would be oh my god, I would rip this 577 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: person a new one, so bad, so bad. I stayed 578 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: polite and listened, said I would consider her opinion, and 579 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: eventually got her to leave. We have not moved the car. 580 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: Annoyed because the parking is legal, safer, and reasonable. She 581 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: continues to call us rude, disrespectful and implies we are troublemakers. 582 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: So am I the a hole for standing firm and 583 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: continuing to park the car in the safest and most 584 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: convenient spot for us despite her frustration. There is an update. 585 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 6: You're not no, keep doing it there, No, there are 586 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 6: no laws for stopping you to park there. 587 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: There are no laws. Batman, I E I what is 588 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: shit want? If there's an emergency and both of your 589 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: cars are stuck behind the gate, knock knock, knock, three am. 590 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Hey lady, I parked my car behind the gate and 591 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: is stuck. Now you gotta get up and drive me. 592 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 5: Honestly, I would do that just to take them off. 593 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd make up places I had to go. I 594 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: parked my car back there, lady, you really want me 595 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 3: to knock, knock, knock, Gotta drive me my car stuck. 596 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: Update. We spoke to the nursery about our child having 597 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: contact with this woman and requested that there be none. 598 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: They assured us they take this seriously and will update 599 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: us on Monday. As expected, there was another note on 600 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: the car this morning telling us to move it immediately. 601 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: We've added it to the pile and are keeping all 602 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: of them in case we ever need them later. We 603 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: also contacted our local non urgent police line for advice. 604 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: They checked the address and confirmed we are fully within 605 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: our rights to park where we are. They explained that 606 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: notes and an aggressive tone do not meet the threshold 607 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: for threats. Only direct threat of or property damage would. 608 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: If the notes become threatening, they advised us to call back. 609 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: They also mentioned that repeated visits to our door could 610 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: potentially become a stalking issue, so that feels extreme right now. 611 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: Many people suggested disconnecting the power to the gates while 612 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: they're open, which is an option, but it may invalidate 613 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: our home or car insurance. We plan to speak with 614 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: our insurer first. Until this afternoon, when the intercom buzzed. 615 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh boy. 616 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: Oh I think I'd fix my gate and continue to 617 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: park up the street. 618 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would. I would buy a clunked 619 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: out old car that barely runs, and I would park 620 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: it there and I would let it collect dust. That's 621 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: what I would do. Yeah, I'd buy two. 622 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: I'd fill the whole street with cars. Yep. 623 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: And I'd say and I'd put I'd put a little 624 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: camera in them, and I'd say, oh, I can't wait. 625 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: Who she vandalizes my property so I can get hoo. 626 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why would thallis and percent make sure I had 627 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: a camera in that car though, because I do feel 628 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: like she's going to do something to it. 629 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, get a get a clunker, Get the ugliest 630 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: clunker car you could ever possibly find, and park it 631 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: in that spot. Go ahead, do it. And there's a 632 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: little bit more story. It was her again, saying your 633 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: car is still there. You have to move it now. 634 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: I said I was busy, but she insisted i'd come 635 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: out to talk. It was pouring rain, but I went 636 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: out anyway. Why why would you? I'd be like, you 637 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: need to leave, and if you don't, I'll be calling 638 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: the police. 639 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Hey, you're on my property. You're trustpassing. Actually, yeah, I 640 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: can't have to leave. 641 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: I've made it clear. She repeated the same arguments, and 642 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: I explained all the advice we had received. She said 643 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: she knows the police say it's fine, but it's not 644 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: fine with her. Oh guess who doesn't care about that. 645 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: That's a metric that holds no wait for anyone. If 646 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: you're a nasty, mean person who no one likes. If 647 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: I liked you and it bothered you, maybe i'd be 648 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: more inclined to help you. But you've been nothing but 649 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: obtuse and rude to me. Funny how that works. I 650 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: was almost ready to back down, just to stop the situation, 651 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: until she said that if I didn't move the car immediately, 652 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: she would move her own cars out of her garage 653 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: and block hours in one in front and one behind. 654 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: I honestly struggled not to laugh. It felt petty and 655 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: would only make things worse. I told her, okay, said 656 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: I had to go inside and shut the door. Dash 657 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: cams arrived today and I'll be fitting them tomorrow. I 658 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: fully expect another note on the car or a blockade 659 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: waiting for us. 660 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: Just go park your other car in front of your 661 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: car on the street, so that if she wants to 662 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: block you in, she can only do from behind. And 663 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 3: then you also have two in front of her house. Oh. 664 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 2: I thought she was saying, oh, you were gonna put 665 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: block she was gonna block your gates like block your rdin. 666 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: No, I think she's gonna park her cars on either 667 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: side of the car on the street. 668 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: No, that is that's funny. And that's the end of 669 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: this story. We're gonna go on to the next one. 670 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But 671 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 672 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: My boyfriend stormed out on my birthday just because I 673 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: asked for coffee. 674 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: M babe, I'm exclusively hojicha. 675 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: Okay, we have a trigger warning for emotional. My boyfriend 676 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: thirty six mail and I have been dating a little 677 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 3: over a year, and I honestly don't know what to 678 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: think anymore. For some context, last year, on this exact day, 679 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: twenty ninth birthday, I was blindsided with news that I 680 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: unfairly and unexpectedly failed a clinical rotation in my doctorate 681 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: program Pediatric Acute Care Nurse Practitioner program. They failed me 682 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: eight months before graduation and the program is four years total. 683 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: I would have graduated in May. I spent the last 684 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: year grieving that severe depression, and just last month I 685 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: finally got to re enter the class. By the way, 686 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: this comes from deleted and if you want to submit 687 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to the arslash Okay storytime subreddit. 688 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're here to 689 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: give good advice goofully, but we don't have all the answers. 690 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: We only know what we would do, So let us 691 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 3: know what you would do in the comments, and Opie says, 692 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: I am now working with a lawyer and spending thousands 693 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: of dollars because the same mentor and professor tried to 694 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 3: dismiss me unfairly again during the first week of classes 695 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: after a year of waiting to retake this class as 696 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 3: it is only offered once a year in June. Just yesterday, 697 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: the lawyer asked me for a time sensitive document and 698 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: also has asked for one today on my birthday. He 699 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: came over unexpectedly last night, even though I told him 700 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: I had a lot to do and I barely slept 701 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: this morning. I was tired, low energy, and emotionally drained, 702 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 3: not mean or trying to pick a fight. I asked 703 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 3: what we should do today. Our only plan was an 704 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: eight pm dinner with my family. He just said, well, 705 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: what do you want to do. I got frustrated. I've 706 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: been carrying so much lately. I was hoping he'd just 707 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: set up, make a plan, or even grab a coffee 708 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: or breakfast to start the day. I took a shower, 709 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: got ready, et cetera, about an hour's worth of time, 710 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: and I thought when I went downstairs around ten thirty am, 711 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: he would have a coffee waiting for me, since I 712 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: expressed I wanted one. Well, I went downstairs and he 713 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: was sitting on the couch with a grim look on 714 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: his face. I said, you didn't get coffee or anything. 715 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: He got defensive and said I was being ungrateful. He 716 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 3: ended up storming out, telling me I ruined my own 717 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: birthday and that I should sit with the consequences of 718 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: how I acted. He left around eleven thirty am and 719 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: hasn't contacted me once. We have a dinner reservation tomorrow 720 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 3: with some of our friends, but he already told me 721 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: we'd go for the sake of guests, not to celebrate me. 722 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: Now it's six pm, I still haven't heard from him. 723 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: I need to write another legal document for my lawyer 724 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: since today is the last day of the semester and 725 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm under intense pressure to get it written asap. My 726 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: boyfriend knows all of this. I'm so depressed and overwhelmed 727 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: that I can't move. I don't even want to go 728 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: to dinner with my family anymore. He says I never 729 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: take accountability. He says, I make everything about me. But 730 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: I didn't scream at him, I didn't insult him. I 731 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: just expressed disappointment and hoped to feel special after the 732 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: last year. On my birthday. I also want to mention 733 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: once he started yelling at me and insisting that I 734 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: said he does nothing for me, which I know I 735 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 3: did not, and telling me I owe him an apology 736 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: and I need to take accountability. I lost it. He 737 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: knows I am not okay and all the pressure I'm under, 738 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: and is acting this way on my birthday. I started 739 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: yelling back and crying and slammed my bedroom door. That's 740 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: when he left and said, f you. 741 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: Honestly, this is so cartoonish. It almost sounds like this 742 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: guy just doesn't know how to break up with somebody, 743 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: and he's instead just being as bad as possible to 744 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: make you. 745 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 7: Do it for him. 746 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I said, you're really doing this on my birthday. 747 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: You know I was failed unexpected last year on my 748 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 3: exact birthday and wanted to reclaim that. He said he 749 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: didn't care and I should think about my behavior and 750 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: that they have consequences. One more edit, his dad and 751 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: I share the same birthday. He's very ameshed with his family, 752 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 3: which I usually don't mind since we live an hour 753 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: apart and don't get to see each other daily. Before 754 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: my birthday, he brought up using a hotel suite we 755 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: had won during Halloween contest to celebrate with his dad 756 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: on Friday, my actual birthday. The hotel is meaningful to 757 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: his parents because they spent part of their honeymoon there. 758 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 3: He said, we could celebrate my birthday the next day instead, Dude, 759 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: that's what people like, celebrating their birthdays on their birthdays usually. Also, 760 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: his parents don't like me because they think I'm unreliable 761 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: and unseerious my unexpected failure, and my parents don't like 762 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: him as they are around a lot when he acts 763 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: like this and see me crying on the phone and anxious, 764 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: et cetera, when I should be focused on school, so 765 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 3: me celebrating with his family on Friday was not an option. 766 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: I was a little disappointed. It was my thirtieth and 767 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: I'd hope he'd want to spend the actual day with me, 768 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 3: or at least. 769 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 7: Part of it. 770 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: But when I said that, he flipped out and called 771 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: me selfish and yelled at me. I was already so 772 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: emotionally drained from everything going on with school and the 773 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 3: lawyer that I just told him that it was fine. 774 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: I even sent him screenshots of my mom telling me 775 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't a big deal and to let him celebrate 776 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 3: with his family, just so he'd calm down and stop 777 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: attacking me. Later, I found out his sister and her 778 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: boyfriend were in Greece, so his family wasn't even celebrating 779 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: that day and expected me to just assume he can 780 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: come to dinner with my family and I. This left 781 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 3: a bad taste in my mouth and ruined the excitement 782 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 3: around my birthday. Is this on me? Or is emotionally 783 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: harmful and unsafe? We have an update from the same day. Still, 784 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't like your boyfriend. 785 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: I don't like your boyfriend, you should break up with him. 786 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: No one should be yelling at you on your birthdays. 787 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: Yelling at you on your birthday a breakup. 788 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 5: Oh you're yelling happy birthday. 789 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 3: Update at eight pm and he knows I had a 790 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: reservation at this time for my birthday dinner, but he 791 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: had my location and sees I'm home. After ignoring me 792 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: all day, he said, I hope your call with the 793 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: lawyer was productive and you have a nice birthday dinner 794 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: with your family. He also FaceTime me multiple times. But 795 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: I will not be responding. 796 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: Just the absolute gall of that guy to think he 797 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: can just call you and be like, it's fine, have 798 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: a good birthday, have a whatever, it's fine. 799 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: Insane. Update two went to dinner and trying to finish 800 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: note on my phone as my parents were having a 801 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: meltdown about me missing my birthday dinner two years in 802 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: a row now. And also, no, my boyfriend does this 803 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: during holidays and big events and refuse allow him to 804 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 3: ruin my birthday after this past year. 805 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: Wait, so he always has done this. It's always anytime 806 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 2: it's a big event. He's always going crazy. 807 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: He didn't ruin the birthday last year, but he's ruined 808 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 3: other holidays and stuff. And they've only been dating for 809 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 3: like a year, Right, what a door? Wasn't it only 810 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: like a year? 811 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: Not long enough to not break up with him immediately? Yeah, 812 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: he had to break up with this guy the first 813 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,479 Speaker 2: time he ruined something, Yeah, or the second first time? 814 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: You maybe write it off. Okay, somebody, somebody woke up 815 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: on the wrong side of the bed today. However, multiple times, 816 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 2: over and over and over again. Why what are we doing. 817 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: You're not going to fix him. You're not supposed to 818 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: fix him. 819 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: Update three, He found the Reddit post and of course 820 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: is saying my recall of events are inaccurate and that 821 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: I was, in fact the one who ruined my birthday 822 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 3: and he has no part in ruining my birthday. 823 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course not, of course he doesn't. 824 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in one this where it's like a twenty 825 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 3: year old wrote it, not a thirty year old. I 826 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: think you have too much crap on your plate for distractions, 827 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 3: and clearly your boyfriend is a distraction because here you 828 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 3: are on Reddit thinking about your relationship instead of getting 829 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: crap done that you need to do. If a relationship 830 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 3: is draining your energy, then it's time to cut ties, 831 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 3: stay in relationships that boost your energy, fuel your goals, 832 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: and make you want to take on the day. Ones 833 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: like this they have you on Reddit instead of doing 834 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: your duties, will never serve you and will never get 835 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: you to where you want to be. You're too old 836 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 3: and have too much on your plate to even be 837 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: thinking about this lame drama. You're losing sight of the 838 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 3: big picture, which is your professional future. Break up. Buckle 839 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 3: down with this lawyer, pass the class, get your career 840 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 3: sorted out, then start thinking about dating. Coming two. Sorting 841 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 3: out your schooling will change your life. This guy seems 842 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 3: then on ruining it. Focus on the important one and 843 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 3: let the other go. Opie says, Yep, my dad has 844 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: said that from the start that this guy's here to 845 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 3: make sure I will not past school and be dependent 846 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: on him so he can control me. Although my boyfriend 847 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 3: puts me down a lot about school and says our 848 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 3: relationship suffers because of this, and he said my life 849 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: is bleeding into his because I can't hang out as 850 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: often or do fun things. Common to replies, why have 851 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: you not listened to your parents so far? Ope says, 852 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: that's a very good question. Logically, I know they're right, 853 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 3: but I think years worth of this type of dating 854 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 3: similar partners has altered the chemistry of my brain, honestly, 855 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: and I guess I think I deserve this type of treatment. 856 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: My parents truly weren't self absorbed or harmful, so I 857 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: do think it's from dating so many men that have 858 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: been emotionally harmful towards me. That is true. 859 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,479 Speaker 2: Once you get used to something, you just think that's 860 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: the way it is. 861 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: Once school is settled, I'll be working with my therapists 862 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 3: to try to resolve this. That's the end of that story. 863 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you have very productive therapy sessions. It 864 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: sounds like you have a lot of insight into your 865 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: own ways of being, and I. 866 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: Hope you have a right thirty first birthday. And that's 867 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: the end of this story. We're gonna go to the 868 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: next one. 869 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 4: My sister's friend sabotaged my party planning, so I took control. 870 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 7: Don't mess with my parties. 871 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 4: My sister, twenty eight years old, is getting married next year, 872 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 4: and it has been a complete whirlwind already. I love 873 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 4: her fiance and he is truly God's gift for her. 874 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 4: I could not even imagine a more loving and supportive 875 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 4: partner for her. By the way, this comes from username 876 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 4: specific Anything seventy five eighty three and if you want 877 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 4: to submit your own stories, go to our slash Okay 878 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 4: storytime subreddit. I'm Vincent, I'm Sophia, and we are here 879 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: to give good advice goofy, but we don't got all answers. 880 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 4: We just know what we would do op. 881 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 5: He says. 882 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 4: She couldn't decide who to make her maid of honor, 883 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 4: so she picked three maid of honors. Yes three, me, 884 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 4: my sister, and her forty year old friend. Will get 885 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: into this. It was difficult at first trying to figure 886 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 4: out how to share duties, and then it became very 887 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 4: clear that her forty year old friend was strong arming 888 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 4: my sister and I out of every turn. I've suspected 889 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 4: her friend as a scammer or a self absorbed person 890 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 4: that's taking advantage of my sister. This quote unquote friend 891 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 4: booked my sister and her now fiance travel through a 892 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 4: travel agent who is the forty year old's best friend, 893 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: and the crews ended up being double the cost of 894 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 4: the crappy accommodations and terrible food. I worked with my 895 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 4: sister bride to Bee and we made a Google doc 896 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 4: with fifteen plus bmbs mapped out four to five different 897 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 4: location possibilities, possible timelines, and possible attendees. We listed Cancun, Miami, 898 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 4: New Orleans, Nashville, et cetera. She was so happy with 899 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: our work that she asked me to be the spearhead 900 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 4: of it, and I said yes. 901 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 5: I sent a text to the. 902 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 4: Native Honor group chat, and all of a sudden, her 903 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: forty year old friend jumps in saying actually they already 904 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 4: had plans since April to do a one day at 905 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 4: Disney and stay in Orlando. I said, okay, if we 906 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 4: stay in Miami, I would drive to Disney for one 907 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 4: day and be the DD so we could take advantage 908 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: of the beach, nightlife and batch activities in Miami. Her 909 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 4: forty year old friends said she didn't want to be 910 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 4: in the car for over an hour, and the strong 911 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 4: arming started up again. Excuse after excuse. She pushed us 912 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 4: into Orlando, and my sister was agreeing with everything she said. 913 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 4: I called my eldest sister and asked if she was 914 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 4: going to let this happen and if she was okay 915 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 4: with our sister having a lame bachelorette. My eldest sister 916 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 4: said she was wiping her hands and that's our sister's choice. 917 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I felt frustrated, rightly so, 918 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: because I felt like the only one who could see 919 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 4: that this woman was taking advantage of our sister. Weeks later, 920 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: we were locked into Orlando and guess what the villa is. 921 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 4: Through the same travel agent friend, she sends a text 922 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 4: to the party group chat and tells them nothing of 923 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 4: the location or timeline, but instead just demands everyone send 924 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty dollars today as we need to 925 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: lock in the house. My sister and I send money 926 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 4: to help. Then the original ten girls start backing out 927 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 4: one by one. Since then, the cost of the trip 928 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: has gone up, not just from people backing out, but 929 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: apparently until the total cost is paid off, the total 930 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 4: cost of the villa will fluctuate higher. Now we're down 931 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 4: five girls, and my sister and I have had to 932 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 4: invite a friend of our own to try to fill 933 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 4: the spots. I told my sister this isn't worth progressing 934 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 4: with the house that had ten bedrooms for only five girls, 935 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 4: and since the trip isn't until late April to may 936 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 4: we should back out. Turns out, the contract the forty 937 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: year old signed says that if we cancel even ninety 938 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 4: days in our advance, we may not receive a refund 939 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 4: of our security deposit and may have to pay an 940 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 4: additional thirty to thirty five percent of the total package price. 941 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 5: On top of it. 942 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 4: We could submit a claim, but we could be denied. 943 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Wait, if you don't go, you not only 944 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 7: have to pay the initial price, but also more. That's 945 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 7: a full scam. 946 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, full scam, and like three months ahead of time. 947 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 7: That's crazy, a damn scam scam. 948 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm gonna where I'm gonna be 949 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 4: in three months. 950 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 7: I have no idea I might not be there. 951 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 4: Do you asked me where I was three months ago? 952 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 4: If i'd be here? 953 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 5: What? 954 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 3: Huh? 955 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: Huh huh. 956 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 4: When we said we wanted to back out, the girl 957 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 4: said we can't. She told us that she bought insurance originally, 958 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: and when we asked if that would help, she said 959 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 4: the insurance would only cover someone being sick. I read 960 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 4: the contract and it's horrendous. Toilet paper, paper, towels, et cetera. 961 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 4: Were not included. If we asked to downsize the villa. 962 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 4: We will be charged as a cancelation, have to pay 963 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 4: a new price anyway, and have to pay a new 964 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 4: price anyway, plus an additional one hundred dollars per person. 965 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 4: My parents are livid. They said if we can't back out, 966 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 4: they'd pay. We had a meeting as a family with 967 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 4: the woman and it was very sketchy in sus She 968 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: kept pushing us to keep the house and tried to 969 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: make it seem like my sister and I weren't doing 970 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 4: anything to help plan. 971 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 5: I came with. 972 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 4: Receipts and she seemed very shook. She was also surprised 973 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 4: I knew legal language and called her out on locking 974 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 4: us into a contract that she knew was this rigid. 975 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 4: I said, before we continue planning, we need to see 976 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 4: if we can get out of this. Even if we 977 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 4: forfeit just the deposit, it's worth backing out. She kept pushing, 978 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 4: saying okay, and what if we can't get it back? 979 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 4: And I said we shouldn't focus on that until we 980 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 4: have a definitive answer, because you said there's a possibility 981 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 4: we could get out. She said she'd talk to her 982 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 4: friend and would date us on if we could back 983 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 4: out a day there, we got a text from our 984 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: sister saying that the forty year old called her friend 985 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 4: and the claim was denied. My dad was certain she's 986 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 4: getting a punt back or a percentage off of this, 987 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 4: and wants nothing to do with her after this. But 988 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: I feel like too much has happened. I feel very defeated. 989 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 4: I feel like I can't sit here and watch this 990 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 4: car crash happen. Part of me wants to tell my 991 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 4: sister she has to choose me over the forty year 992 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 4: old and that only one of us can stay. I 993 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 4: do worry she'd pick her old raisin friend over me. 994 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 4: But I've reached the point where I can't take the 995 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 4: stress of this. 996 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 7: Did you go on an old raisin friend? 997 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 5: Yes? That is a quote from OPI her old raisin friend. 998 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 4: It's weird because she always comes in a red box. 999 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 7: She just loves raisin brand. 1000 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 4: It's a what's as a brand with that little that 1001 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 4: little like raisin girl with. 1002 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 7: A little raisin girl. 1003 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 4: Well, it's like a it's a red box. But now 1004 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 4: I'm imagining it's her because it's like an old time 1005 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 4: she has a bonnet on. But I know imagine it. 1006 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 4: It's just her, but like thirty years down the road. 1007 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, she's kinda she's gotten a little bit older now. 1008 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: The raisin grift has gone bad, so now she's having 1009 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 4: to resort to resort grifts. 1010 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 7: Someone else, Please buy my raisins. 1011 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 4: I mean my raisins. I try to cover them and chocolate, 1012 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 4: but people just come and raising it. I also feel 1013 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 4: intense guilt for how crappy her friend is making this. 1014 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 4: My mom thinks this woman is using it as a 1015 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 4: way to take over since she's the only single, middle 1016 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: aged person and this is the closest she'll ever be 1017 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 4: to a wedding. She's never planned a bachelorette before, whereas 1018 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 4: my sister and I have. 1019 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 5: Hah. 1020 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is super shady. 1021 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 7: Very shady, very shady indeed. 1022 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would see if you can't talk to 1023 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 4: this friend's friend, yeah without her being the middleman. 1024 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, because it seems like she just the friend. The 1025 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 7: forty year old friend is trying to flip everything. I 1026 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 7: don't know, can we get a lawyer involved? 1027 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 4: Well, Also like she's taking control by being the middleman, yeah, 1028 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 4: and doing things without okaying with you guys. So yeah, 1029 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 4: go over her head, take all her power. Away and 1030 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 4: then move from there. I am frustrated and need any 1031 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 4: advice you can offer. Also apologize for the agism. I 1032 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 4: am just angry and don't see what this forty year 1033 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 4: old woman could have in common with my twenty eight 1034 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 4: year old sister that she constantly infantilizes because of her autism. 1035 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,479 Speaker 4: But we have some comments. Comment number one. I've never 1036 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 4: heard of an accommodation insisting that you have to pay 1037 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: when you're canceled four months in advance. Maybe it happens, 1038 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 4: but that's Luda Cris. 1039 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 5: We agree. 1040 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 4: Have you given her any more than two hundred and 1041 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: sixty dollars? Don't give her any more money. If somebody 1042 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 4: wants to try and get more money out of you 1043 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 4: for a rental you aren't using, tell them they can 1044 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 4: take you to court. It's certainly not worth it to 1045 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 4: It's certainly not worth it to the property owner. It's 1046 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 4: more productive for them to just find another renter. If 1047 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 4: it were me, I would tell my sister I can 1048 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 4: no longer be your maid of honor. WTF? Who the 1049 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 4: f has three freaking maids of honor? 1050 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1051 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 4: And then pretty strange, that's really strange. Your sister needs 1052 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 4: to be more in the kitchen, many too many cooks. 1053 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 4: You get the reference, you know, I don't. It's a 1054 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 4: I'll show you after this it's a video, and then 1055 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 4: step back. I would advise my other sister to do 1056 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 4: the same, because it sounds like the bride isn't likely 1057 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 4: to be talked into dumping the forty year old Oh. 1058 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 5: P I know. 1059 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 4: My dad was so mad. He said, who who did 1060 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 4: you get this contract from the Corleones. He's a godfather fan. 1061 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: I don't think she'd drop her. She's convinced she's her 1062 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 4: best friend. I'm going to talk to her fiance, but 1063 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 4: I think my eldest sister and I just need to 1064 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 4: stand our ground. Comment number two. I think you and 1065 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 4: your mom and your dad need to sit down with 1066 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 4: your sister without her raisin friend and lay it out there, 1067 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 4: and lay it out there how she's using your sister 1068 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 4: for money even if she's not getting any or just 1069 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 4: a portion as a kickback, and that she doesn't have 1070 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 4: her best interests at heart, and that she's forty and 1071 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 4: your sister is twenty eight. You definitely should have stood 1072 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 4: your ground with her right from the start when you 1073 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 4: and the bride to be chose where to have a 1074 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 4: bachelorette party, and when she should have been shut down 1075 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 4: immediately for not allowing she should have been shut down 1076 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 4: immediately and not allowed to try to sway your sister. 1077 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you need to ask your sister to 1078 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 4: choose between you and the quote unquote friend, but make 1079 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 4: it abundantly clear that you don't like or trust her, 1080 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 4: and that if your sister genuinely cares about what this 1081 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 4: woman has to offer, that you're also washing your hands 1082 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 4: of all of it. And her friend can handle all 1083 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 4: of the planning and can pay it all herself. That's 1084 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 4: a good one. 1085 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, make her pay for all this money that she 1086 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 7: freaking wasted. 1087 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, if she's planning all this super expensive stuff, plan 1088 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 4: it with her money. At this point, it seems like 1089 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 4: your sister won't get a bachelorette party, and it's just 1090 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 4: depressing for her. Opie, I'm planning an Atlantic City bachelor 1091 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 4: party without the raisin because she's a big Gordon Ramsey fan. 1092 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: And we can go to the Heck's kitchen. 1093 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 7: Ooh, yeah, that's where. 1094 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 4: Uh there's a bunch of them, but this one's in 1095 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 4: Atlantic City. 1096 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 7: Mmmmm cool. 1097 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, have some good food. My parents said they'd help cover. 1098 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 4: We definitely need a formal sit down because this trip 1099 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 4: is going to cost almost sixteen hundred to two thousand 1100 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: per person for all only five of us. It just 1101 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense when the original budget was eight hundred. 1102 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 4: We have a reply that's actually insane. But the fact 1103 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 4: that you all put down that much money with someone 1104 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 4: you already don't trust is crazy too. Oh Pee, I 1105 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 4: said this from the jump, and no one listened to me. 1106 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 4: We've only put in two hundred and sixty one dollars 1107 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 4: each because I was suspicious, but I'm not giving her 1108 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 4: any more money. 1109 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 5: Goood, nice, good, that's it. 1110 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad that you've only lost maybe lost if 1111 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 7: you can hopefully get it back, but you've only given 1112 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 7: away two hundred dollars. 1113 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the end of this story. We're going 1114 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 3: to go to the next one. 1115 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: John here og host. 1116 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 4: We're gonna get back to these stories, but a quick 1117 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 4: three minute break from as for more sponsors. 1118 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 7: My father said, I ruined Christmas because I had a 1119 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 7: panic attack. 1120 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 4: Jingle h double hockey sticks. 1121 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 7: I thirty four female have a diagnosed anxiety disorder where 1122 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 7: I have severe your anxiety and panic attacks. I live 1123 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 7: in a northern state with my husband thirty four male, 1124 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 7: and two kids, one male and seven female. My father 1125 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 7: and stepmom are retired nurses who live in a southern state, 1126 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 7: and my grandparents live in Florida. The plan was to 1127 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 7: spend a week in Florida and on our way home 1128 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 7: stop at my dad's for a few days as the 1129 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 7: midway point to our house. By the way, this comes 1130 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 7: from Charming Football two seven to one, and if you 1131 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 7: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 1132 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 7: slash Okay story time supparate it. 1133 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 5: I'm Sophia, I'm Vincent, and we're here. 1134 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 7: To give good advice. Goofley, But we don't have all 1135 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 7: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let 1136 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 7: us know what you would do in the comments and 1137 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 7: Obesas for Christmas this year, we drove my new car 1138 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 7: from our state to Florida and everything was exciting. We 1139 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 7: got to Florida a day ahead of schedule, where for 1140 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 7: Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, my dad and stepmom were 1141 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 7: going to come to my grandparents to spend Christmas with 1142 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 7: their grandkids. Since we got to Florida two days before 1143 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 7: Christmas Eve, we spent one day at the beach and 1144 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,280 Speaker 7: had a wonderful time. On Christmas Eve morning, my husband 1145 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 7: decided to go to the store to get milk for 1146 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 7: our son before the store is closed early, and my 1147 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 7: car wouldn't start. It would not turn over or anything. 1148 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 7: I know a fair amount about cars from my stepdad, 1149 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 7: who taught me how to change my tires oil and 1150 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 7: replace easy parts like belts and plugs, so I figured 1151 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 7: the issue was either my starter or something electrical. I 1152 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 7: started to panic, as I'm a teacher, and I started 1153 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 7: to mentally picture that I would be stuck in Florida 1154 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 7: and not be aback for work, and I started to panic. 1155 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 7: My husband and grandparents know when I have severe panic attacks, 1156 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 7: it's best to let me walk away and have space 1157 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 7: to clear my head and not force me to come 1158 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 7: back and engage until I'm mentally ready to do so. 1159 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 7: So I walked and sat at the lake and cried 1160 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 7: and had my panic attack, and not too long after 1161 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 7: getting there, my stepmom and dad showed up, and my 1162 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 7: stepmom was kind and told me she understood and to 1163 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 7: take my time, but Dad, however, was not so kind. Dad, 1164 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 7: you need to get your crab together and stop acting 1165 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 7: like this. Me, Dad, I just need to pull myself 1166 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 7: together because this is a huge because this is causing 1167 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 7: a huge issue financially and even time wise, Like how 1168 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 7: are we going to get home as all shops are 1169 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 7: closed for the next three days? Dad, Well, you need 1170 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 7: to go back on meds or go doc to your therapist, 1171 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 7: because this is not how we behave Your husband is 1172 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 7: the car being towed to our shop? Who will look 1173 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 7: at it when they open? So we're going back to 1174 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 7: Grandma and Grandpa's out now. Since you're punishing your children 1175 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 7: and ruined the holiday, I don't argue and just go 1176 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 7: back since my husband has it covered, and since I 1177 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 7: was mentally exhausted, I just laid in my and my 1178 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 7: husband's room and fell asleep. The next morning was Christmas, 1179 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 7: and despite the unknown about what was wrong with my car, 1180 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 7: I sat there and enjoyed the holidays with my kids, 1181 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 7: watching them open presents from Santa and my grandparents. Prior 1182 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 7: to my dad coming to their house, I tried facetiming 1183 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 7: my mom to say Happy Christmas, but my mom told 1184 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 7: me that she and my stepdad were on their way 1185 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 7: to bury his mom, who just passed away of cam 1186 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 7: through the day prior so she'll FaceTime me later. Soon after, 1187 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 7: my dad and stepmom show up and the kids open 1188 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 7: gifts from them and we chat for a little and 1189 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 7: even though I'm still high on my anxiety where I'm 1190 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 7: still super anxious and unable to truly be happy until 1191 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 7: I know what was wrong with my car, as well 1192 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 7: as how much it will cost me to fix. Later 1193 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 7: that day, my grandparents' friends came over to do Christmas dinner, 1194 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 7: and I was sitting in one part of the house 1195 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 7: watching and playing with the one year old while my 1196 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 7: husband kept an eye on our seven year old. My grandparents' 1197 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 7: friends approached me and talked to me, knowing what was 1198 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 7: going on, but they still gave me space but still 1199 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 7: engaged me in conversation, understanding I was keeping my toddler 1200 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,919 Speaker 7: from destroying my grandparent's house while they and my dad 1201 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 7: were cooking. The entire time I'm talking to, anyone approaches me. 1202 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 7: My dad and grandfather are outside cooking time, and my 1203 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 7: dad comes in and out of the house, giving me 1204 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 7: side glances as he passes that I notice, but I 1205 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 7: ignore as I focus on my son who's running around. 1206 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 7: My mom finally facetimes me and I sit with my 1207 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 7: kids on my lap as we talk to my mom 1208 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 7: and stepdad, and my dad is standing there in the 1209 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 7: doorway just staring at me. Eh, it's just like there 1210 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 7: you said. 1211 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 4: I'm scared, dad, give me your best, scary dad. 1212 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 7: I can't do it. I'll never be a scary dad. Dang. 1213 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 4: Hey, so fay you follow your dreams. You can be 1214 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 4: a scary dad if you won't. 1215 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 7: Thanks, Vincent, That's all. That's all I ever wanted. 1216 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 4: I believe in you all. 1217 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 7: I continue to ignore him as we talk to my mom, 1218 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 7: who talks about the burial and what happened, and then 1219 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 7: asks the kids about Christmas. After the kids were done, 1220 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 7: my mom asked me if my anxiety is high today, 1221 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 7: as she can see it on my face, and I 1222 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 7: vented about my car and she told me that things 1223 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 7: will work out and offered different things we can do. 1224 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 7: My mom listened and it made me feel better. My 1225 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 7: entire call with my mom lasted no more than ten minutes. 1226 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 7: Christmas dinner comes, and when my anxiety is high, I 1227 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 7: cannot eat or I get sick, so I focus on 1228 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 7: making sure my kids are fed and bathed, et cetera. 1229 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 7: After my grandparents' friends leave, my dad finally comes up 1230 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 7: to me and shakes his head as he looks at me. Dad, 1231 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 7: you need to get your anxiety under control me. I'm sorry, Dad, 1232 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 7: you need to get on meds and get help, but 1233 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 7: this is not working. You were so rude and ignored everyone. 1234 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 7: I didn't reply as I felt an anxiety attack building 1235 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 7: because I thought I was talking to people and I 1236 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 7: thought I was not acting moody. I just got up 1237 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 7: and went into my and my husband's room and had 1238 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 7: my anxiety attack. I went into full flight mode and 1239 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 7: wanted to leave. I cried to my husband that I 1240 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 7: wanted to call an uber and have them bring me 1241 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 7: to an airport to fly home, as I can't do 1242 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 7: anything right when I was watching my kids and still 1243 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 7: talking to people, But apparently I must have been living 1244 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 7: in some altered reality where it never happened. He just, yeah, 1245 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 7: this is it, This is it, toughy. 1246 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I'm sorry that this is something that 1247 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 4: Opie's had for a long time. Yeah, like the parents, 1248 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like your dad's really well equipped to 1249 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 4: handle it. 1250 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 7: No, it doesn't sound like he wants to learn you 1251 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 7: know what you need, whereas your mom seems like pretty 1252 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 7: understanding yeah, but yeah, your dad just wants to make 1253 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 7: it worse. 1254 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 4: Well, I see this with sometimes just like they just 1255 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 4: wanted to go away. Yeah, and like just and I 1256 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 4: understand the whole like from his point of view, like, oh, 1257 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 4: you're so stressed about this thing that like you can't 1258 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 4: do anything. Like some people will be like, oh, I 1259 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 4: can't do anything about this thing right now, therefore I'm 1260 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 4: not going to stress about it. Yeah, that's not everybody now, 1261 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 4: and your dad needs to be to know, like, Okay, 1262 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 4: the way you handle that is different. 1263 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. Through the door, while I was having my anxiety attack, 1264 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 7: I could hear my dad talking about me to my grandmother, 1265 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 7: who is not engaging in the conversation, as well as 1266 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 7: in front of my seven year old dad. I have 1267 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 7: seen this at the mental hospitals all the time when 1268 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 7: I was a nurse. It's all an act for attention. 1269 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 7: She was all fine to talk to her mother, but 1270 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 7: not to talk to anyone else. She's choosing her to 1271 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 7: talk to and this is all an act. She needs 1272 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 7: mental help and it's got armor. Kids. They're going to 1273 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 7: be mentally messed up because of her. I sat in 1274 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 7: our room crying while my husband went to deal with 1275 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 7: my dad, and I don't know the full conversation, but 1276 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 7: what my husband told me as a summary is that 1277 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 7: he told my dad that he should not have said that, 1278 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 7: but should have asked if I'm okay and not burate 1279 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 7: me and my dad point Blake told my husband that 1280 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 7: until I apologize to the people are wronged, I'm not 1281 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 7: welcome at his house. My stepmom stopped in our room 1282 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 7: before leaving and told me she sees how I feel, 1283 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 7: and to me, my dad doesn't mean what he says, 1284 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 7: and let him cool down and he'll see how he 1285 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 7: was wrong and he'll call me in a few days. 1286 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 7: And told me not to reach out until he does, 1287 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 7: which I agreed, as when he used to get mad 1288 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 7: at my brother and I as kids, he would usually 1289 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 7: reach out two days later to talk it out. Fast 1290 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 7: forward to New Year's Eve. My car finally got fixed. 1291 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 7: That day long story with the car, but I had 1292 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 7: squirrels using my car's engine compartment as storage for pine cones. 1293 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 4: I've had that happen before. What I used to sometimes 1294 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 4: like the lining on wires, Yeah, is also really tasty 1295 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 4: to rodents. So I had squirrels and rabbits coming in 1296 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 4: and it'd like clip my starter wire. He did it 1297 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 4: three times with me, No, No, it's real, yeah. 1298 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, it's just their little pine cone compartment 1299 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 7: and it caused fuses to melt into the fuse box, 1300 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 7: which in turn caused my car to not start. Thankfully, 1301 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 7: insurance covered it all. And at this point I was 1302 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 7: over the whole vacation as we were less than four 1303 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 7: days before or when we needed to be home and 1304 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 7: have not heard from my dad, so I said, let's 1305 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 7: go home. I booked a hotel for the next night 1306 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 7: in a neighboring state to ours, hoping we would be 1307 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 7: able to stop and stay with my dad as it's 1308 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 7: the midpoint. It was six days since the whole situation 1309 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 7: with my dad and I've not heard anything. So as 1310 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 7: we drove home, my husband texted my dad telling him 1311 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 7: we were heading home as the car is finally fixed, 1312 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 7: and asked if we were welcome to stay the night 1313 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 7: before heading home, and my dad texted back, you and 1314 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 7: the kids are, but your wife's not until she apologizes 1315 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 7: for rudy Christmas to me. My husband did not reply 1316 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 7: and reassured me that I didn't ruin Christmas and he 1317 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 7: started it and should not have so, and he started 1318 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 7: it and should not have. So we decided to drive 1319 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 7: past his house and drive to the following state to 1320 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 7: a hotel. We left the next morning, and I was 1321 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 7: courteous to my family as I was raised to keep 1322 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 7: a family in the loop when we were traveling, and 1323 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 7: texted my family text chain we have had go since 1324 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 7: my grandma got a smartphone. Hey, we're leaving town heading 1325 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 7: to the other town. My in law, stepmom, and grandparents 1326 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 7: all said, okay, drive safe. My dad separately texted me, 1327 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 7: I don't care when you get home and want to 1328 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 7: be an adult and have an adult conversation about how 1329 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 7: you ruined Christmas. Will do so over the phone, not 1330 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 7: texting like a child. What child's are out here? 1331 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 4: Also, Dad, you're saying that over text? 1332 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1333 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 2: Literally, you're texting er what? 1334 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 7: And also like I feel like he's imagining like a 1335 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 7: little baby, like what babies are texting? 1336 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1337 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 7: This makes sense? Good text like an adult man. 1338 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, get out of here, Dad? 1339 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 5: The heck? 1340 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 7: So I'm here still not calling my dad, but I 1341 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 7: want to know. Am I the a hole for ruining Christmas? 1342 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 7: And there is an update? But what do you say? 1343 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 3: Vincent? 1344 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 4: Reacting the way you do, and like if he can't 1345 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 4: handle that, it sounds like something something triggered. Yeah, your dad. Yeah, 1346 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 4: and that is not your fault, that's his fault and 1347 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 4: he needs to do some work on that. 1348 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 7: I feel like maybe the best way to handle him 1349 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 7: is working on every time. So like every time you're 1350 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 7: dealing with anxiety and stuff and he is just being rude, 1351 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 7: just kind of responding as neutrally as possible. If he 1352 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 7: says you're running Christmas and say, oh, well, you know, 1353 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 7: I'm sorry you feel that way, just leap at that. Oh, 1354 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 7: like you need to grow up, you know, sorry you 1355 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 7: feel that way. 1356 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry that you that your Christmas is being ruined. 1357 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry that you're not having a good Christmas. 1358 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 3: Ye. 1359 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 7: Just like I'll put it all back on him, Like 1360 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 7: every time he's like you did this, Oh, I'm sorry that, Like, I'm. 1361 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Sorry that you feel like I was being rude to you. 1362 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, just flip it and don't even engage in 1363 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 7: the conversation. Literally, just be like, oh, sorry you're feeling this, Oh, 1364 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 7: so I'm sorry that's happened to you. Just don't even 1365 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,439 Speaker 7: acknowledge you have any part in this, because you don't. 1366 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 7: He is going through a lot of emotions and is 1367 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 7: letting your individual struggles that you are not putting on 1368 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 7: other people to affect him so deeply. 1369 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 4: So is someone having some big feelings. 1370 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really really gentle parandem. 1371 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you gotta do that update. 1372 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 7: My dad never acted like this towards me before, nor 1373 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 7: has he seen my anxiety attacks before. He lives in 1374 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 7: a world of denial. Mental health is in a thing, 1375 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 7: and we suppress our emotions and bury it down and 1376 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 7: move on. My dad has retired travel nurse for mentally 1377 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 7: disabled people, so his denial of mental health and his 1378 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 7: attitude makes me sad for any of his patients if 1379 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 7: this is how he treats me when I'm having an 1380 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 7: anxiety attack. My dad and my mom divorced when I 1381 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 7: was three and my dad was more of a two 1382 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 7: weekends a month dad, and I remember calling him when 1383 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 7: I was younger, begging to stay with him when my 1384 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 7: mom was emotionally and psychologically harmful towards me, and my 1385 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 7: dad would give me every and any excuse to not 1386 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,759 Speaker 7: take me in, and in a way, he only wanted 1387 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 7: to be a parent when it was his time, but 1388 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 7: not to actually be a parent. Yes, I have tried 1389 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 7: different anxiety meds you name it, I've been on it, 1390 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 7: and they add such severe side effects on me to 1391 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 7: the point where I was hospitalized, and meds are not 1392 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 7: for me. My therapist has given me more help than 1393 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 7: any medication ever will, and that's my opinion. Yes, I 1394 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 7: have a therapist thirteen years in counting from my self 1395 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 7: absorbed person mother. They even said meds are not for everyone, 1396 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 7: and they have given me many coping mechanisms that help 1397 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 7: more when I have the time to do them. And yes, 1398 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 7: walking away from whatever is triggering an episode is a 1399 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 7: healthy way to deal rather than standing there and suffering. 1400 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 7: As of today, I have not heard anything and I'm 1401 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 7: okay with that. I do not plan to contact him since, 1402 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 7: as it was pointed out by my husband, my dad 1403 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 7: is a giant child and I don't owe him any apology, 1404 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 7: but he owes me one for knowingly attacking me and 1405 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 7: making everything worse just for him to victimize himself. We 1406 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 7: typically normally never talk a lot. It was like I 1407 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 7: once in a month thing to check in, and I'm 1408 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 7: used to not talking to him, and I'll keep it 1409 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 7: that way. I did call my therapist when I got 1410 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 7: home and told them what happened, and they agreed that 1411 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 7: my dad's swooping in before I got a chance to 1412 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 7: use any of my coping mechanisms in the end is 1413 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 7: what made things worse. Yeah, so Opie didn't even have 1414 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 7: the chance to self soothe in a way, you know, he. 1415 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 4: Just kind of hopped on you at the beach and 1416 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 4: was like, you're ruining stuff. 1417 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 7: They called it targeted victimization, where my dad intentionally made 1418 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 7: it worse and poked and pushed so he could act 1419 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 7: like he was a victim even though he was intentionally 1420 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 7: putting me in more danger and causing more damage. Honestly, though, 1421 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 7: I'm sure if I was able to walk away and 1422 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 7: use my coping mechanisms to calm and rationalize things, this 1423 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 7: whole story would have ended differently. But that didn't happen. 1424 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 7: I did send his nasty text to my grandmother, and 1425 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 7: she also apologized for what my dad said to me, 1426 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 7: and she said parents will never hate their children, and 1427 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 7: I'll come around once he realizes what he has done 1428 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 7: and what he's lost, though I know she's disappointed in him, 1429 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 7: So I'm going to accept who my dad is. But 1430 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 7: I'm not taking the step to contact him, and I'm 1431 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 7: okay with never talking to him. It's his loss, not mine. 1432 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 7: And there is a second update any thoughts. 1433 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 4: It's good that you sent it to your grandma, Yeah, 1434 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 4: and that she's on your side. 1435 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1436 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 4: This isn't on you. 1437 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 7: No, I like, it's just constantly reminding yourself that your 1438 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 7: dad is his own issues that he's dealing with that 1439 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 7: he clearly does not want to go to a therapist 1440 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 7: or doctor four because he doesn't believe. 1441 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 4: In that even though he works in that system, which 1442 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 4: is crazy. 1443 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 7: But uh, you are, you know, working through this, You 1444 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 7: are getting help for it and the old that is 1445 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 7: the only thing that matters is that you are working 1446 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 7: on improving yourself and your. 1447 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 3: Dad is not. 1448 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you. 1449 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 3: Update. 1450 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 7: So it's been almost a year since this whole ordeal 1451 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 7: and I have some updates, but nothing exciting one as 1452 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 7: my father reached out to me to apologize or move on, Nope, 1453 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,839 Speaker 7: complete silence. In February, I found out I was pregnant 1454 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 7: with my final baby and didn't announce it until June 1455 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 7: when I was nineteen weeks to ensure everything was okay. 1456 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 7: I didn't feel the need to let my dad know, 1457 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 7: because he never reached out at this point. And after 1458 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 7: I posted, I got a message from my stepmother on 1459 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,680 Speaker 7: my dad's behalf. She tried to tell me that I 1460 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 7: should have told my dad that I was pregnant again 1461 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 7: before I announced it, and he has a right to know. 1462 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 7: I clap back and told her my dad does not 1463 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 7: get to pick and choose to be in and out 1464 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 7: of my kids' lives and only play victim because he 1465 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,759 Speaker 7: thinks he's entitled to my kids. Since then, my dad 1466 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,679 Speaker 7: sent a birthday present to my oldest but never called 1467 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 7: or texted her, never sent a car to my two 1468 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 7: year old when his birthday rolled around, so he either 1469 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 7: forgot or truly didn't care about my son. During this time, 1470 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 7: my bonus dad got diagnosed with stage four pancreatic OOH 1471 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,839 Speaker 7: and was taking a bad turn. So I was driving 1472 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 7: out to see him and out my mom every other day. 1473 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 7: That's so devastating because he just lost his mom. Yeah, 1474 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,759 Speaker 7: and then you know to have as well. 1475 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a rough gosh. But also, your dad 1476 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 4: doesn't have any right. He's like, I have a right 1477 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 4: to know. 1478 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 7: He No, he doesn't. 1479 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 4: You you kind of threw that away when you didn't 1480 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 4: treat me well and when. 1481 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 7: You haven't tried to apologize a year. 1482 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been radio silence, no support system from your 1483 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 4: father at this point. 1484 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 7: Nope. I did find out he was in town for 1485 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 7: a week while I was driving back and forth, but 1486 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,439 Speaker 7: I only found out for my brother, who I was 1487 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 7: distanced from prior to my dad deciding to be a 1488 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,440 Speaker 7: self absorbed manchild. My brother we ashed out our differences 1489 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 7: and found out everything we were upset about at the 1490 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 7: other was because my dad was feeding us lies about 1491 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 7: the other to make us mad and hate on each other. 1492 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 4: Wait what what? 1493 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 7: Yeah? Oh wow, your dad really sucks. Yeah, no contact. 1494 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 4: He's not only like he's manipulated. 1495 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, whoa no contact. He was thriving on us hating 1496 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 7: one another, and he was forcing this wedge to create 1497 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 7: more chaos. He never reached out to talk. Stepmom reached 1498 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 7: out last minute, saying she and Dad were in town 1499 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 7: if I wanted to hash things out, and I never responded. 1500 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 7: In August, my bonus dad passed away of kire oh suddenly, 1501 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 7: and I was willing to reach out to my dad 1502 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 7: because the loss unlive me. He has me blocked so 1503 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,799 Speaker 7: since then my last baby was born, and I realized 1504 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 7: all my anxiety and stress was all caused by my 1505 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 7: dad and the drama he brought with him. So I 1506 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 7: stopped caring about his opinion and stopped trying any final thoughts. 1507 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 4: Uh. I think it's interesting that once like, there's all 1508 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 4: these issues with anxiety, Yeah, and then once this one 1509 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 4: thing was cut out your father, it sounds like it 1510 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 4: got a lot better. Yeah, And especially hearing that he's 1511 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 4: been manipulating and lying to your brother as well, it 1512 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 4: sounds like he may be the source of. 1513 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 5: All of this. 1514 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1515 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,719 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, from the very like from my developmental up. 1516 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 7: Well, it sounds also like every time that you try 1517 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 7: to work through this and work on it, he or 1518 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 7: at least when he's around, has sabotaged that. So even 1519 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 7: as you try to improve, he works against. 1520 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 4: Them, he sabotages or doubles down. 1521 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1522 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 7: I finally realize that people who value and love me 1523 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 7: and my kids will treat us with kindness and love 1524 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 7: and not manipulate and isolate. So since this, I have 1525 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 7: been less stressed and my anxiety is non existent. And 1526 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,080 Speaker 7: every now and then I'll see my dad post pictures 1527 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 7: of him with my brother, and my brother will tell 1528 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 7: me it's to try to bait me and piss me off, 1529 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 7: but I've reached the point that I just don't care 1530 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,719 Speaker 7: because my kids mean the world to me, and if anything, 1531 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 7: my bonus dad was more of a father to me 1532 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 7: than my own baby juice donor. And I'm sad that 1533 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 7: I lost the one person who truly loved me, and 1534 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 7: I'm left with a baby juice donor who values their 1535 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 7: pride over being an actual dad who loves no matter 1536 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 7: what and support their child even if they are in 1537 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 7: a crisis. As of now, I did talk to my 1538 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 7: grandma and found out my dad has been acting like 1539 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 7: everything was chilled between us. I told my grandma the 1540 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 7: correct information. She apologized but said he's just stubborn, and 1541 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 7: I guess she called him out and he gave her 1542 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,759 Speaker 7: some sob story about how he misses me and what's 1543 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 7: to talk to me, And I told my grandma I'm blocked. 1544 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 7: So if that's even true, he can reach out, but 1545 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 7: we all know he won't. So my dad's playing victim 1546 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 7: while he's being a self absorbed a whole. And that 1547 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 7: is the end of that story. But yeah,