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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and uh lots of Patriots news that're

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Speaker 1: filling out. The staff will go over all the latest

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Speaker 1: developments there. We'll do our picks for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think I've got a good take on what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I have a good feel for this game.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll want to hear my pick.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I haven't really given it much

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Speaker 1: Fred Tamara's not here. I don't know where she is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll ride three bulls, as someone dubbed us.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to take some shots at Alex. Yesterday it

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Speaker 6: Well that was That was chrispher a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: So I figured before I know, to comment do appolism

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Speaker 3: They needed to find some new blood.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to the modern athlete and wanting

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Speaker 3: I do have one minor concern on Peters because you

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Speaker 4: Want to work with, because those are the positions that

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Speaker 6: That's what I came out of it, And I think

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Speaker 4: Paul knew it already I started.

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Speaker 3: No one sent it to me because you know, I

439
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Speaker 3: work downstairs now, so I'm on the pay no mind list.

440
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Speaker 3: But that was huge in the early early nineties when

441
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 3: Colorado was at the top of the college football chain.

442
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: They won a national title around that time. That was

443
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 3: a huge story with those VALANESSI was a big deal.

444
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so, that's uh, that's his dad. He's crazy.

445
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 4: But you know, just getting to know these guys and uh,

446
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 4: you know, we'll see we'll see a lot of young

447
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 4: guys and and and this is it.

448
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 6: So you know, he he spent some time though, TC

449
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 6: did under Shanahan, So you know, it's just there's a

450
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 6: lot of little roots going to different kind of West

451
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 6: Coast offense.

452
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Speaker 1: And I like that Mayo is not afraid to hire

453
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Speaker 1: people who have a lot more experience than he does.

454
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Speaker 5: You know.

455
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 1: Now that's not saying much because he doesn't have a

456
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Speaker 1: lot of coaching experience, but you care these people.

457
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Speaker 3: Well, but I got the Wolf of Washington Street doing

458
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Speaker 3: all this time.

459
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Speaker 1: But I'm sure that he has input, right, you know,

460
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not. It's you know, to be a leader,

461
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: you need to hire people who will tell you what

462
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,719
Speaker 1: to do. You know, you want to hire people who

463
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: are smarter than you in a lot of areas. You know,

464
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: if you're afraid to do that, then you can't lead.

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean it's one of the biggest

466
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 6: questions we had going into this season was, you know,

467
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Speaker 6: what kind of input is jirob Mayo going to have

468
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 6: on offense?

469
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Speaker 4: What kind of visions does he have? Is he going

470
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Speaker 4: to want to just kind of set it and forget it?

471
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Speaker 6: And you know, there was a time I think when

472
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Speaker 6: we thought he would just kind of be like Josh,

473
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Speaker 6: you know, hire Josh McDaniels and be like, go do

474
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Speaker 6: something with it.

475
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Speaker 1: You know.

476
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Speaker 4: I it's a great question.

477
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's one of the ones that

478
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 6: needs to probably be asked to draw whenever he's up again.

479
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, what is your involvement with the offense, Like,

480
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 6: you know, what's kind of your you know, your vision,

481
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 6: what's your mandate to those coaches?

482
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Speaker 1: At the very least my points?

483
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, score points.

484
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Speaker 1: I don't care how you doing. Score point period.

485
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Speaker 4: That's all I care about. But you know what, what

486
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 4: what's he looking for?

487
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Speaker 6: What kind of you know, are there players already on

488
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Speaker 6: the roster that he kind of gravitates towards or away from? Maybe,

489
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 6: But I know that there's been a lot of discussion

490
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 6: just about Cleveland. Their run game was something that Alex

491
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 6: Van Pelt brought up in the interview. So you know,

492
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 6: Paul brought it up right after the interview. He said,

493
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 6: you got one running back on the roster right now.

494
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Speaker 6: Who's who's banged up?

495
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 5: Right?

496
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 6: He's coming off a major injury. So you know that's

497
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 6: another position too. As I've been, you know, doing the

498
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 6: draft stuff, it's like running backs of priority, running backs

499
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Speaker 6: of priority.

500
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Speaker 1: It is, everything's a priority an offense. But I was

501
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: listening to Catch twenty two a little bit with Alex

502
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: and Heaven and they were talking about, you know, the

503
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: draft and quarterbacks, and you know, which quarterback is going

504
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Speaker 1: to be best suited for the Patriots offense. We don't

505
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Speaker 1: have an offense yet, Okay, so how about what offense

506
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Speaker 1: is going to be best suited for the quarterback? Yeah,

507
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, instead of the other way around.

508
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they're they're assuming that they're going

509
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Speaker 3: to run something along the lines of what they would

510
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Speaker 3: have been.

511
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Speaker 1: Pelt, Well, I think that I think that that's a

512
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: dangerous assumption. I think I think you taylor around your personnel,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, force fee it.

514
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, not to it was probably you know,

515
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: it's a little bit more coach speak, but they did

516
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: ask them that in the interview, not to give everything away,

517
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: but it was it was that tailoring, tailoring it to

518
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: your players. And you know, if you try to just

519
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 4: put players into your scheme.

520
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: You have but you have a system, like, you can't

521
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: just change your system.

522
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: You can tailor it.

523
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 3: Like the only way you would do that is if

524
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Speaker 3: you had like a Lamar Jackson type that's just not

525
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: like a conventional NFL quarterback. Yes, you would be stupid

526
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 3: to just say, no, we want you to run the

527
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: Tom Brady offense. We don't ever want you to run

528
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: the ball like, No, you have to tailor to the skills.

529
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Speaker 3: But I would think that you have a system that

530
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Speaker 3: and I think it will be similar to that sort

531
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Speaker 3: of Shanahan Kubiak kind of run, you know, under like

532
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: like Evan talked about last week under center, heavy play action,

533
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: half boots, taking shots down the field, but run dominant offense.

534
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Speaker 3: I think that's what they're going to run. That's what

535
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Speaker 3: Van Peltz is, you know, done for four years.

536
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Speaker 6: And if that's true, it's running. I mean, how are

537
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 6: they going to do it with just a banged up

538
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 6: with Mundry Stevenson, like they.

539
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: Need at least that.

540
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: You'll just get what's the best running back in the draft.

541
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Speaker 3: Give me a napkin, I'll sign a guy.

542
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Who's who's the best running back in the draft this year?

543
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: Oh, don't look at me.

544
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 6: No, I I mean I just started dipping into that.

545
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 6: There's a you know, it's as usual though there. I

546
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 6: don't think there's not that Bejon Robinson type this year.

547
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of like, what's your kind of your

548
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 6: flavor in the mid rounds? Okay, you know there are

549
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 6: there are no Barkley, no, no, nobody, I mean nobody.

550
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Speaker 6: I mean maybe, let's face it, they're not you know,

551
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 6: they shouldn't be considering that anyway. But I just I

552
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Speaker 6: wonder if it's you say it's worth free agent too,

553
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, go to free agency to I mean,

554
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 6: because you know, you get these guys coming off their

555
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 6: first contract. A lot of these guys are going to

556
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 6: shake loose, so you know, it's just it's just a

557
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 6: numbers game. Right now, you got one guy, like I mean,

558
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Speaker 6: if you're going to base your whole offense on running

559
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 6: the ball, you got to have at least a couple

560
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 6: that are actually the NFL players love that you can stay.

561
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Speaker 3: Hell, sign Austin Neckler sure to be more well rounded,

562
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 3: you know, run pass option than than Steven's And even

563
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: though Stevenson's got a lot of production as a receiver,

564
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Speaker 3: I don't look at him in that regard like like

565
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: Eckler or Kamara, you know, those kinds of those kind

566
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: of dynamic backs out of the backfield. But you're gonna

567
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: need some depth at running back obviously.

568
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Speaker 5: You know.

569
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Speaker 3: Does Kevin Harris get a shot too? But the shot

570
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Speaker 3: that we all, I think, Mike, you and I at

571
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: least thought last year he deserved. Yeah, you know, and

572
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: they went the Zeke rout and that was fine. Zeke

573
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: was fine.

574
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Speaker 1: Could he come back?

575
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Speaker 3: I would hope not. I would hope you would use

576
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Speaker 3: your resources in a better way.

577
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Speaker 1: But I mean, he didn't cost that much, did he?

578
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Do you have to pay that for a backup running back?

579
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: Like three or four mili? Like, can't you just get

580
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Speaker 3: that on Kevin Harris's salary?

581
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: But I don't see why three or four million should

582
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: preclude him from being It doesn't.

583
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't preclude you, but it might preclude you from

584
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: signing something else with three or four million, that's what

585
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: I would worry about.

586
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean cap space fall over here.

587
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: Not cap space again. I don't know how many times

588
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: this needs to be explained to you. The cap space

589
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: they have, I think they have like the eighth or

590
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: ninth cap space football, Yeah, maybe even higher than that.

591
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: I don't think catspace is an issue. Yeah, money is.

592
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: Money is an issue for everybody. You don't let anybody

593
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: fool you on that. Jerry Jones, money is an issue

594
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: for There's a reason he doesn't pay coaches anything because

595
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: money counts.

596
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Speaker 6: I would just be very careful about extending on players

597
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 6: thirty plus years old.

598
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's my point, Like Kevin Harris, give you

599
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: a reasonable.

600
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Speaker 4: Like we're you know, in fact similar to and he

601
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Speaker 4: did the bigger piece of it too, which is.

602
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Speaker 6: Kind of a little bit of an epiphany that I've

603
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 6: had and we were talking about it yesterday. It's like

604
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 6: these quarterbacks in the draft and everything, like, if it

605
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 6: doesn't put you on a trajectory to challenge Josh Allen

606
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes and Patrick and Joe Burrow, that three guys,

607
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 6: then I don't want it.

608
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Speaker 4: I'm going to pull it tomorrow. I don't want it,

609
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: you know, like that I'm over it. Like that's that

610
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: like everything should be through that.

611
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, when we get into the

612
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins of it all, does that put you on

613
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Speaker 6: a trajectory to beat Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes.

614
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Speaker 3: Oh I left out Jared Goff the way on my

615
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: list on Tuesday, thought about that later.

616
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 6: That's the goal, right, well, but you know, and that's

617
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 6: like kind of the overriding philosophy of like this overextending

618
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 6: yourself to sign a thirty one year old running back

619
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Speaker 6: at you know, maybe ya, it's affordable, but the possi point,

620
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't it be better just to try Kevin harre And

621
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 6: if it doesn't work then.

622
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: And maybe he couldn't. Maybe if Kevin Harris played all

623
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 3: the time, maybe the ball security issues that we saw

624
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: a little bit as a rookie and even training camp

625
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: last year, at times I thought, yeah, maybe those would

626
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: be a problem. Maybe that's all it was. Yeah, you know,

627
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: and maybe that's why they went out and they felt

628
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: like they need to get Zeke, who again I thought

629
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Speaker 3: did a fine job. I thought he I thought he

630
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: was fine as a secondary back. I don't know if

631
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 3: Kevin Harris could chase down someone after an interception as

632
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: an example.

633
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: But see I'm saying effort. I'm saying, if Kevin Harris

634
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Speaker 1: is on the team, Zeke's on the team, and then

635
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: you bring in a free agent who might be better

636
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Speaker 1: than both of them. And if Karen, if Kevin Harris,

637
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: if Kevin Harris can beat out them.

638
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: Fine, but how many you need?

639
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: A statement? You need like five, at least five or

640
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: six running backs on your roster? Yes you do, Oh,

641
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: yes you do?

642
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 5: Paul.

643
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: How many times have we said on this show the

644
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: last year, I know, but that wasn't good.

645
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: And how many games did you say, gees, I wish

646
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: they had not?

647
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: How many times on this show if we said what

648
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: are they gonna do with five running backs? And they

649
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: end up using all of them?

650
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they get hurt, you just go and get

651
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: somebody else.

652
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: To replace you. You need a stable of running back.

653
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Speaker 1: You don't want six, they don't. They don't all have

654
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: to be really good, but you need those guys.

655
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Speaker 6: I mean, I like, Paul, you know, the Eckler kind

656
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: of thing, like, you know, to get some quality and

657
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: you know, I don't need six. I just need somebody

658
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: needs to go with Ramandre and a rookie that you know,

659
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 6: four fifth round somewhere in there, somebody that you can carry.

660
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Four guys including Harris and Zeke.

661
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: Why does it have to include Zeke? Because why does

662
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: it have to have a thirty three?

663
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: How old is he?

664
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Speaker 5: I don't know?

665
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: Why does he have to have a thirty something?

666
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: You need your backup, but you have maybe two other

667
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: guys you bring in that are better right now? You know,

668
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying why not?

669
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: And I'm not listening. This is not a Kevin A'm married.

670
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: Whenever you put him on social media.

671
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: Now I get it, Yeah, I see he's I mean

672
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: he's only twenty nine, you know. I mean, but a

673
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 4: thirty year old running back?

674
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: Like why?

675
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Like, I just don't understand why you have to have

676
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: a thirty year old backup runner.

677
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to have it.

678
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: But like, if I'm now playing at a high level,

679
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: like like you know, like Derek Henry or something, roll the.

680
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: Dice to me. If it's four million, why not, I I'm.

681
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: Because you can use that in so much better ways

682
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: I could running back.

683
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I I'd rather put it to somebody else.

684
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't.

685
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 6: I if they brought back Elliott, I'd be fine with it,

686
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 6: but I don't really, I'm not really gonna buy.

687
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I'd rather put it to someone else.

688
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: What is it like that money?

689
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 8: You know?

690
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: If I'm going to do it for a running back,

691
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: I want that. I want a dynamic guy who's going

692
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: to make plays, right.

693
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: Not a guy on the back and get him too.

694
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah huh, well, how much you want to invest in

695
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: running back?

696
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: This is my point that you don't run heavy team.

697
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: You don't need six guys.

698
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: If you're a run heavy team, you better have some

699
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: running backs.

700
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I mean Cleveland was a run heavy team last year.

701
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: They lost the Star and they were fine. Now were

702
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: they a super Bowl threat?

703
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: No, they weren't.

704
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: They had too many injuries to be a super Bowl threat.

705
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: But they filled it in with Kareem Hunt, that guy, Yeah,

706
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: what's the other guy's name? Ford? I think we forget

707
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: and then old friend Pierre Strong okay Pete who played

708
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: like one game. Like, you don't need six running backs.

709
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: You could just have like your practice squad guys fill

710
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: and you have sixteen practice squad spots. Now put a

711
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: guy on that. You have a running back or two

712
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: on your practice squad. And when that game comes up

713
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: that Echolo has heard, he's got the high ankles bring

714
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: because he does get hurt a lot.

715
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Speaker 1: You move a guy up from the practice squad, we'll see,

716
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: we'll see.

717
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: Like it just it doesn't have to be a position

718
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: that requires a lot of financial research.

719
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Speaker 1: I don't consider that a lot of financial resources. But

720
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Speaker 1: you know, frugal Paul over here, all of.

721
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: A sudden, I would rather have a four million, five

722
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: million dollar receiver as my third or fourth receiver then

723
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: running back like I might be able to make a

724
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: play or two with him. Maybe someone like Kendrick Bourne

725
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: years ago, who was okay in San Francisco but was

726
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: looking for a bigger role. Maybe you could find someone

727
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: like that, only better than Kendrick Bourne, you know, and

728
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's looking to make the next step,

729
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: and you can get him for say six or seven millions.

730
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: If I have to choose. If you're saying I can't

731
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Speaker 1: have Zeke if I have this wide receiver, then okay,

732
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: see you later, Zeke, And I'm not. I don't think

733
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Speaker 1: that's the case.

734
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Speaker 3: And it's and I'm like Mike, if they if they

735
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Speaker 3: sign Ezekiel Elliott. I'm not gonna sit there and say, well,

736
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Speaker 3: there goes that season. No, Like no, because it's a

737
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: running back and it's irrelevant, and I'm not gonna be

738
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pout because they signed a running back.

739
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: It's not going to be the difference between winning and losing.

740
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Speaker 4: But it just feels like the kind of move that

741
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: is for this year and not really an eye to

742
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Speaker 4: the future.

743
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Speaker 6: And you know, it's like, it's fine, but I'd prefer

744
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: to be thinking about trying to plug guys in who

745
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 6: are going to be here long term and get them

746
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 6: experience and building towards building beating.

747
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: It's along the lines of Patrick the amount of talk

748
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: that we continue to hear about, go get Kirk Cousins,

749
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: go get Baker Mayfield, and I just don't understand why

750
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: you would want to do that same kind of thing

751
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: with this. At some point, just embrace the fact that

752
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: you're rebuilding and try to rebuild now. If you don't

753
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: get a quarterback in the draft early in the draft

754
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: and you need somebody to come in and play, you

755
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 3: can do that, whether Jacoby Brissett or somebody, I mean,

756
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: even Garoppolo isn't going to cost you forty million.

757
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: Now I'm with lockstep. I'm lockstep with you on this party.

758
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: I really am.

759
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Just rip the band aid off and accept the fact

760
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: that we need two or three draft classes stacked together

761
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: with good decisions on the bar Moars of the world

762
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: and the Gonzalezes of the world. The good decisions pain

763
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: the young talent that they have with the hopes of

764
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: getting better next year and then getting better a little

765
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: bit more than in twenty five. That's what that you know.

766
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Speaker 3: And I'm not telling you you shouldn't have any aspirations

767
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: to win games next year. Like no one goes into

768
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: a year and says we're not gonna win any games

769
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: this year. Like you get get better, get younger, and

770
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: get more talented should be the number one goal. And

771
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: I don't think Ezekiel, Elliott and Kirk Cousins do that

772
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: for you. You might win more games, but then in

773
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: twenty five you're back to square one because those guys

774
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Speaker 3: are not big part of your future.

775
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Speaker 6: Put that one on Paul Talk, that one. That one

776
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 6: should be noted. It's a good, good Paul rent I

777
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 6: like that one. Paul's TikTok start they're doing.

778
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Some work yesterday Paul's Oniktok the look on his face.

779
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Had to do a couple of takes.

780
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: But you got to dance, right, Is that what it was?

781
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: It was a TikTok dance.

782
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: I did not dance. Oh, and I didn't have to

783
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: do that many takes either. I don't know what Saya

784
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: was telling you up there.

785
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: So it was like pulling teeth.

786
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: Now, it was definitely pulling teeth. I didn't want to

787
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: do it, but as predicted, my son kind of thinks

788
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: he might have to transfer it now.

789
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: Eight five five pass five hundred is the ag ticket outline,

790
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Speaker 1: web radio at patries dot com. Is the email address?

791
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Anything else? Before we open it up to the listeners.

792
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: We are going to get to our super Bowl pick

793
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the show.

794
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: I don't really have to hurry for that.

795
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Well, I have some thoughts things, So I'm with Freddy

796
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: on offensive line. Like I think the offensive line coach

797
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: was needed, and I like the profile. I like the

798
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: guy who worked under one of the very best. I

799
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: like the idea of that. I don't know if you

800
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: can coach at all. I don't have no idea if

801
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: he's any good I just like the fact that he

802
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: tutored under Bill Callahan. I really like.

803
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Speaker 1: That's all.

804
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: That's all you can get when you said you didn't

805
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: like something on the defensive.

806
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't like bringing back the Belichick guys, guys that are, yeah,

807
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: the guys that are holden to Bill. I worry about

808
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: back and forth with Bill. I don't I don't like it.

809
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

810
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: He's not coaching, so but you know, there's no intel

811
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: to really like worry about.

812
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: But it's not intel that I'm worried about. It's what

813
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: would you do it that way?

814
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 9: Dad?

815
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

816
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: No, oh me. Neither didn't seem right to me either. Well,

817
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: that's what I'm worried, I know.

818
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: But Gerard's a Belichick guy too. In terms of who

819
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: we learned under for defense was I mean a lot

820
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: of what he learned from Bill. I'm sure he's gonna.

821
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: Use Based on reports last year, it didn't really seem

822
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: like those two were costectic.

823
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: But that's not because of defensive philosophy.

824
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Speaker 3: You know, Do you understand what I'm saying, Mike at all?

825
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: No?

826
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not asking if you agree with I do,

827
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: but you don't have.

828
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: To know I don't. I don't.

829
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with coaching the defense.

830
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about just in generation.

831
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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about.

832
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 3: Can I be blunt? We had an introductory press conference

833
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: where we couldn't seem to stop blaming everything on Bill Belichick.

834
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: I think that's just going to stop when they're coaching

835
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: the team and no one's going now but nothing. And

836
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: then you got two guys that were that are in

837
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: the league for one reason and one reason only, and

838
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: that's Bill Belichick, and they're going to be hearing this

839
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: negative stuff about Bill Belichick. Well, and I hope that's

840
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 3: my that's my concern.

841
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: And if Gerard Mayo is smart, he will put an

842
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: end to that.

843
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: But he wasn't smart enough to not do it at

844
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: the press conference. But so I don't have any confidence

845
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: whatsoever that that's not gonna happen. Smart, when they're in

846
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: the building.

847
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: He will put an end to that. And in terms

848
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: of coaching the defense, I think Mayo is going to

849
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: use a lot of what he learned from Bill Belichick.

850
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: So I think that that part of it will be okay.

851
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying, Yeah, and that's that

852
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: can't happen.

853
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: I know, well, and I think, you know, I think

854
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: Brian probably realizes he's the only one of them left

855
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 6: in the NFL right now. And you know, this is

856
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 6: for as much as it's like go somewhere else, and

857
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 6: you know, like he's not going somewhere else, but it

858
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 6: is a chance for him to, you know, under a

859
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 6: different system, with different coaches, playing under DeMarcus Covington. Now,

860
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 6: I'm sure there'll be some tweaks to the system. I

861
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: like Brian, I like Pellegrino. I think they've done it both.

862
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I hear what Paul's saying to me.

863
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: Pellegrino is just like Belichick, just like Brian Belichick. Like,

864
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: I don't worry about Covington. Covington came into the league whatever,

865
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, Covington cut his teeth under Bill too. I

866
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: think that's a fine hire. I'm not as worried about that.

867
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: Pellegrino is a lacrosse coach, friends with the Belichicks.

868
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 6: Like there's a difference, Yeah, but he's done a good

869
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: job and he's been around for a while. And I mean,

870
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 6: you know, you get some credit for developing Gonzales last

871
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 6: year out of the gate and letting him get in there.

872
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 6: And you know, I think of all the position groups

873
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 6: that they've had, I think he can point to, you know,

874
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: the secondary for having good.

875
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Coaching, and that might be a factor. Maybe Gonzales likes Pellegrino,

876
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, yeah, keep them. They have

877
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: a good relationship. He's coached him well.

878
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: And I hope you guys are right.

879
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope you too.

880
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm concerned about it. I'm concerned about it, all right.

881
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: Eight five to five pats five hundred is the ace

882
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: ticket hut line. Let's get to the phones, which are

883
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: stacked up Patty's and Agawa. What up, Patty?

884
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 10: What's going on?

885
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: Hey?

886
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 11: Hey, hopefully my phone's a little bit better today.

887
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: I know, really, so, I just wanted to make it's.

888
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: Not it's terrible. Yeah, yeah, it's not good. Call back,

889
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: call back. Let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

890
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: Here he is, Hey, let's go.

891
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: What's up.

892
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 10: I'm hoping I was hoping it will be there.

893
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

894
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: He's sick a little bit.

895
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: But but Mike, yeah, I didn't forget you, man, come on,

896
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: let's go.

897
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 10: I know, but but but this girl walk by with

898
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 10: a gym step on and think.

899
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I forgive you for that.

900
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: Eldrick, Yeah, I forget.

901
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: I did not have that in Eldrid Bingo. I didn't

902
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: have it.

903
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 10: Did you?

904
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: Did you hunt your horn at her.

905
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: A little bit?

906
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: No?

907
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: I was looking at it.

908
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 10: I couldn't hont.

909
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Right.

910
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 10: I don't think you need to work. Get back.

911
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: She's done, get back?

912
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 10: Uh show u uh. North Carolina gave Evan a rude

913
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 10: awakening about Drake May but uh, and then he kind

914
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 10: of scarfed us a little bit. But if I won't

915
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 10: tell Evan was Evans. We ain't knocking you for WoT

916
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 10: somebody like that. But see, we see him every weekend.

917
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 10: One thing we do. We watch, you know, college and

918
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 10: all that, and his case at his feet. He's not

919
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 10: too much accurate. I don't know how he got sucking.

920
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 10: There'll be the second best quarterback in the in the

921
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 10: in the crap if I was Pennick or what you card,

922
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 10: I be mad on the what about that? Because he

923
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 10: haven't won that he ever did that much, you know,

924
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 10: and he has played from the shotgun when all the

925
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 10: stuff underneath. But his accuracy throws, it's not good down

926
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 10: the field or whatever, and him and Pennies ran about

927
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 10: the same thing that Penny did from the shotgun in

928
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 10: underneath he did it from the shotgun. Well, penalty from shotgun,

929
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 10: but he did under these two. Let's play action pass

930
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 10: and taking deep shot. PENNI is a whole lot better

931
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 10: than he is, you know. But I'm gonna say this

932
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 10: isn't gonna let it go. Story last year before the

933
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 10: draft with the whiskey tavern a bar, and we have

934
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 10: a little little drinks the dinner. But pick when when

935
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 10: the Panthers picked Rice Young, I did wrong. Pick should

936
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 10: have got dropped, anybody said everybody booth me a couple

937
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 10: of weeks ago later.

938
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: This is the Alex van Pelt of the trunking business.

939
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's Ben Ben.

940
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: No.

941
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 10: But I did say that some of the people are

942
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 10: still there. They pay for my dinner. Eighty dollars dinner.

943
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Wow, right, okay, all right, all right.

944
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 10: We'll see you next week.

945
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you will, Thanks later, uh Sam and Saint Catherines

946
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: writes in Paul, arguing that he wants Eckler over Zeke

947
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: because Zeke is too old, when Eckler is a couple

948
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of months older than Zeke is peak, Paul.

949
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: But he's better. Wow, but he's that's a talent difference,

950
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: not an age defer. Okay, all right, all right, And

951
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: and I like Eckler better than rmondre Stevenson. Like, I'm

952
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: not signing Eckler because I want to back up running.

953
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: Matt and carlsbad Paul, Why why do you strongly hold

954
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: the opinion of fans who want a specific player but

955
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: not a seemingly huge price tag. Your stance has been

956
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: if you like the player, why do you, as a

957
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: fan care about what the price tag is? However, today

958
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: you keep what are we talking? You think keeping Zeke

959
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: is a bad idea because of his price tag? Please

960
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: explain the difference. He doesn't like the player, He just

961
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: doesn't like the player.

962
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that Like what I mean this is

963
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: not hard like. Eckler can be a like a he

964
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: can be a front line starting running back. And by

965
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: the way, he's like an MVP. If I'm going to

966
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: be completely honest, I'm not really interested in signing Eckler either.

967
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: I'm saying, if you're going to sign a running back,

968
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: a veteran running back, get a good one.

969
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Paul would have the first team that has no running back.

970
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: No, they would all they would all be young guys

971
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: on rookie contracts. Everybody talks about the quarterback needs to

972
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: be on the rookie deal. That's the secret, Sauce. The

973
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: running back on the on the rookie deal is where

974
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: you make your money. Productive running backs and then you

975
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: let them go and then get another guy because you

976
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: could just draft one in the third or fourth round.

977
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: Every year there's guys that are productive.

978
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Right.

979
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: No, it makes me wonder what they might do with

980
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: Stevenson after this.

981
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: She'll be rounding me up over there.

982
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 10: I see.

983
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: You draft them, play them, you get them out.

984
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: That's what it is, right, they get the running back.

985
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: And I understand Fred that you need to have running

986
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: backs and you need to run the ball a little bit.

987
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you that I just want to throw

988
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: the ball sixty times every game. I don't want to

989
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: do that. I don't honestly. I just don't think that

990
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: you need to have like the best running back possible

991
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: all the time. There are a few exceptions. I would

992
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: take Christian McCaffrey on my team absolutely. I just mentioned

993
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: as Austin.

994
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: Eckler would take Christian McCaffrey.

995
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: You know, the last four or five years of Austin

996
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: Eckler I would absolutely like to have on my team.

997
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: I liked Alvinmarra. I like Alvin Kamara. Terrific career. I'm

998
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: no longer interested now, but terrific productive player. Absolutely. I

999
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: don't need to draft Jamiir Gibbs at twelve. I don't

1000
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: need that.

1001
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 12: No.

1002
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm with you, and I think that's like

1003
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 6: we spend so much time talking about this stuff and

1004
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: then it's like you actually have to prioritize, Like you

1005
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 6: can't just say I want the best that I want

1006
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 6: the best tackle.

1007
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: I want the best like he kind of have. You know,

1008
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: there has to be a philosophy. It has to be

1009
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: a middle class mic. There has to be. It has

1010
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: to be. It has to be strong, strong, middle stress.

1011
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: Yep uh, Lucas Will has to be someone visiting your

1012
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: house on Christmas Eve.

1013
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Lucas is the North Attleborough. What's up Lucas?

1014
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I'm just wondering, with all this talk about

1015
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 13: the draft, why don't we take the third pick that

1016
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 13: we have, whether it's Jene Daniels and Drake may or something,

1017
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 13: and while we just one of their receivers that they

1018
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 13: played with in college, one of them is gone, right,

1019
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 13: and that's drafts. Yeah, so why don't we train it

1020
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 13: up basically, get like.

1021
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Trade up with what one of the receivers, Well you're.

1022
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: Not gonna get, yeah, trade down Walker from U n C.

1023
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 13: And then we trade up with like another second and

1024
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 13: playing on or something.

1025
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there's there's a lot of ways to do it.

1026
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: Thanks for the Carl Lucas. I mean, I don't know.

1027
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's.

1028
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: Hard to Walker didn't have a great week at the

1029
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl.

1030
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not gonna get Neighbors and and and

1031
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels together like a's much.

1032
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the.

1033
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: Idea of you know, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase is

1034
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: great and Jalen Waddle you know, you know, and all

1035
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: that stuff. But those guys are going to go high

1036
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: in the draft. So in this case, Neighbors is Jaden

1037
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: Daniels's teammate. You you can't trade up to get Elik Neighbors.

1038
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: If you take Daniels at three, you don't have anything

1039
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: to trade up with you, I mean, unless you're like

1040
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: forfeiting next year, No way, And I don't think people

1041
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: want to do that right right now. And I don't know,

1042
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: are you guys big on that? Like the college teammate thing,

1043
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: I think, I don't think it hurts, but I don't think. No,

1044
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: it certainly doesn't hurt. But I'm so much for the connection.

1045
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: More just the connection to which school. And you know, well,

1046
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 4: they played at Alabama, but it's not that they played together,

1047
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: it's that they played at Alabama in the SEC, right.

1048
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: I like, real quick, off the top of your head,

1049
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: who was North Carolina's top receiver.

1050
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: Walker, isn't it?

1051
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: That's what you want him?

1052
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: Not really?

1053
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1054
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 3: Like yep, Malik Neighbors signed me up. Yeah, I would.

1055
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: I would absolutely take him. He's a really good player,

1056
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: you know. But I don't have any problem if I

1057
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: get Drake May and Romadunza. Yeah, and I don't need

1058
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: Pennix to go with the DNA because they played together.

1059
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: Jake's at State Farm. What's up, Jake?

1060
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 14: Hey, guys?

1061
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 13: How you doing all right?

1062
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 14: So a long time, first time here, so Stoff just

1063
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 14: want to thank you for making the work a lot

1064
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 14: easier and listening. And I think twenty eleven I missed

1065
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 14: the Fred Paul and you guys are still going strong.

1066
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 15: Anyways, I know you guys the house, so I gotta hurry.

1067
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 14: But seems like you guys have just been flooded with

1068
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 14: draft talks. I wanted to throw something different at you,

1069
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 14: a little off season fun. I'm building an all time

1070
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 14: team for the past. Sometimes I do it for Madden games,

1071
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 14: sometimes just do it on paper for fun.

1072
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 15: But my question to you guys is.

1073
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 14: Who would you put for the starting three at linebackers

1074
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 14: and then who would you pick for the three starting

1075
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 14: running backs? Because those are the two positions to struggle

1076
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 14: with the most.

1077
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 13: And I'll take it.

1078
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: Off their Patriots all time team or is this this

1079
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: is Patriots right? Yeah? Well tipp It obviously is number

1080
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: one for the linebacker.

1081
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the three best linebackers of Patriots history.

1082
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean high Tower tipp It. I mean, is do

1083
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: you consider McGuinness the linebacker.

1084
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: Or I think if you're only going three, you got

1085
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: to consider him an end. But if you're going four,

1086
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: then McGuinness is probably one of the outside guys. Yeah,

1087
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean Steve Nelson, I mean Rabel.

1088
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot.

1089
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot, yeah, yeah, And it depends like the

1090
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: not the sound ill Evan on you. It depends on

1091
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: what you're playing.

1092
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, three four four three even front, Yeah, running back, though,

1093
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 6: I Corey Dillon's got to be near the top.

1094
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Oh, Curtis Martin, Curtis.

1095
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 4: Mark, Curtis Dylan, and uh, what do you say?

1096
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Three ye Corey Dillon at one year? I'm out on Dylan.

1097
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: It's a good year.

1098
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 3: It was a great year, best year in Patriots history

1099
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: running back.

1100
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: But I think Curtis Martin, you know, you look back

1101
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: at the year where they broke the NFL record for rushing.

1102
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: But it was a committee.

1103
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't like one guy Cunningham would would deserve consideration

1104
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 3: but Sam Bam. But Martin would be my pick, even

1105
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: though it was only three years. But Dylan did not

1106
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: like literally fell off a cliff.

1107
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: I remember watching him try to run into six ouch.

1108
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 6: Fuck Kevin fuck I mean Patriots specific Like, I don't

1109
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 6: know if I would put him up. Excuse me, is like,

1110
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 6: you know, all time running backs in the league. But

1111
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 6: like in terms of what he meant to the Patriots

1112
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 6: and what he provided for them.

1113
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: Is he the best third down back the pat I

1114
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: think so?

1115
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: I think so.

1116
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 6: I mean Veren short Wood had short short time. I

1117
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 6: mean James White maybe, but Ron.

1118
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: Burton, Yeah, it's a good I think the running the

1119
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: third down back is a good argument because I think

1120
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: that you could make an argument that Kevin Falk would

1121
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: have been much more productive if he played when Veren

1122
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: and White did sure, you know, accentuated that a lot more. Yeah,

1123
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: Falk is probably.

1124
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: The You can't argue with James White's productivity, especially in

1125
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: the big moment. I mean he was always there for yeah.

1126
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: But so as fuck though, right Jimmy White.

1127
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: I mean i'd lean Falk on that one. I think

1128
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: just I think bigger body will work and you know,

1129
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: the longevity.

1130
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: But to me, you know, and I know they both

1131
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: played you know, in the eye or whatever and as

1132
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: a traditional running back, but they're almost like different positions

1133
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: than Corey Dillon.

1134
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: Wash. That's why that's why they're calling him. But that's

1135
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: why we're doing it. That's this way, don't That's why

1136
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 3: we're calling him third that's the whole part.

1137
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: But the caller said running back.

1138
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, that's right. I mean, I know,

1139
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: the different bath like, that's why we broke it up.

1140
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: But the caller didn't, So we're getting away from what well.

1141
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: My my answer to his question was Curtis bart My answer, Yeah.

1142
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: Paul always brings it back to the scheme. You know,

1143
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: it was like four three three four.

1144
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: Le Mike knows, I can't get enough of the ex's

1145
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: and o's. But break it down, bro, if you don't

1146
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: know ex's and o's, there's no sense to even watch.

1147
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 4: Somebody you have to fill in for. You're doing a

1148
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: great job making us sound.

1149
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Go to Chris with

1150
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: a T I A N what's up? Christian?

1151
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, uh bred, you definitely don't need five running

1152
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 8: backs anymore, six six, you know, like especially on this team,

1153
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 8: Like I don't care if they're gonna run the ball

1154
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 8: at most, you need three. I just I just not

1155
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 8: the NFL anymore. Like I take like Paul, I take

1156
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey in a hockey but anybody else. Like That's

1157
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 8: one thing Bill was was right on about recycling the

1158
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 8: running backs like that. He was he was totally right

1159
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 8: about that. Just just changing him in and out every year.

1160
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: And that's fine. But I'm not saying that like I'm

1161
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: just saying that, why not Zeke, you know, as a backup.

1162
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: And I told saying, but I told you that I

1163
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: agree with you and Mike if they resigned, Zeke, I'm

1164
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: not gonna it's not gonna bother me. I just think

1165
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: that they would. I would rather somebody else. But it's

1166
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: not gonna kill me. I know, it's not you know,

1167
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: it's not gonna buy was a kid.

1168
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Running backs were the top of the draft.

1169
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

1170
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: And I know that's changed. That's not happening anymore, you know.

1171
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: But I mean, even if you.

1172
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: Go to like two thousand and one, the running back

1173
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: was the focal point of the offense. Like it's just

1174
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: a different game.

1175
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that.

1176
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 8: I wanted to get your thoughts and I joined the

1177
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 8: show late about like a half power. But did you

1178
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 8: guys talk about the Lombardi interview at all on Pelgrim?

1179
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: We have not talked about that.

1180
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: We didn't get on get into that last show. Yeah,

1181
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: it was a good it was a good interview. Ut

1182
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: I think I think Mike caught him in a lot

1183
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: of like, you know, contradictions.

1184
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 4: You think which might cut which Mike.

1185
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: Felger Lombardi and a lot of contradictions, you know, like

1186
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: when Lombardi says, well, you know, they're last in the

1187
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: league in cash spending. Well, you know, like, so let's

1188
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: let's let's look into that, you know, like, why do

1189
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: you think do you think that was Well, I don't know.

1190
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't you know, I'm not in the building. Like, oh, okay,

1191
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad that you are the insider. And

1192
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 3: Felger's the moron who doesn't know what he's talking about.

1193
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: He's not inside the building like you are. But then

1194
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: when you're asked to explain yourself, you you too were

1195
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: not inside the building. Yeah, got it.

1196
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a nice trick.

1197
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: There was a lot of fact checking going on afterwards.

1198
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think much of Lombardi before

1199
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 8: an interview, and I.

1200
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Think even less of him now.

1201
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: The problem that's why we get along, bro.

1202
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: The problem with Lombardi is he's not bad. Like I

1203
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: read his book. It was a good book, but the

1204
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: one but he you know, he has to admit when

1205
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: it comes to the subject of Bill Belichick, I'm biased,

1206
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not objective.

1207
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: Basically, his his whole goal on that interview was to

1208
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: let everybody know, here are the three or four reasons

1209
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: why they stunk. They were really good. Bill did a

1210
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: really good job, but the quarterback let him down. They

1211
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: don't spend any money, and he wasn't allowed to do

1212
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: what he wanted to do. That's the bottom line.

1213
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 8: The teacher to wise Crow too, like we know we're

1214
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 8: you know, we our record says something the effect of,

1215
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 8: you know, but we weren't a bad football team, No,

1216
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 8: you were four.

1217
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing, like, you know, his big

1218
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: thing was like Felger's going with Bill's track record without

1219
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: Brady and Lombardy jumps ugly on him. It's a lazy narrative.

1220
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, he just got finished saying that was a

1221
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: really good team last year that got let down by

1222
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: its quarterback. They lost a lot of close games. Well,

1223
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: if you weren't offering a lazy narrative, you'd know that

1224
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: most of those close games the Patriots scored last in

1225
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: to make it close, and they didn't really have a

1226
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: lot of close games, and it wasn't just about poor

1227
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: quarterback play.

1228
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 11: You know.

1229
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: And then he goes off and I don't know if

1230
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: you heard so there was a lot of like little subtle,

1231
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: subtle jabs he rips Mac Jones left and right and

1232
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: basically drops that on Robert Kraft's lap and then he

1233
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: goes and then then what are you gonna do? You

1234
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: replaced him with someone who's even worse. Oh okay, so

1235
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: now you saddled with two bad quarterbacks. It wasn't just one.

1236
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: Like somehow Cleveland was able to find ways to win

1237
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: games with four different.

1238
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks the team. I mean, that was part of his job.

1239
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: But Lombardy wasn't having it in true fashion.

1240
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 16: You know what.

1241
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: It reminded me of Fred when you used to argue

1242
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: with Andy and you would have Andy and Andy would

1243
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: lash out from the corner, just throwing haymakers and saying

1244
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: the same stupid thing over and over again. Hyperbolic. Right,

1245
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 3: that's what Lombardi kept doing. I mean you must.

1246
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 16: Believe, I mean, you must have been on the sixth

1247
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 16: floor of Daily Pluzzle, like you must believe us Weald

1248
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 16: after the law. I mean, why would Bill Belichick give

1249
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 16: a rat ass about what Mike Flegler think? Like, when

1250
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 16: you're beating an argument, you just keep repeating stupid stuff

1251
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 16: that has nothing to.

1252
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: Do with the argument, over and over again. And that

1253
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: was kind of I'm surprised Felger didn't jump ugly on him.

1254
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe he did, because we all know that

1255
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: they do. Listen to what these people say.

1256
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: Imagine the care Imagine saying to Felger, like, you can

1257
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: think what you want to Felger, I know that you

1258
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: make fun of me my shows. You Imagine saying to

1259
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: Mike Felger, You've never been able to talk to Bill Belichick,

1260
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: right right, like talk about lazy narrative. Yeah, Like, Mike

1261
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: Felger probably had as close a relationship with Bill as

1262
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 3: anybody on that beat at any time in that twenty

1263
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: five years, Closer than any of us, way closer about us.

1264
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I was never on that I didn't even have a relationship.

1265
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: Were you ever on the boat? No, the Six Rings?

1266
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: Were you ever to Nantucket House? Nope, I can tell

1267
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: you Felder was I know, wow, I.

1268
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Know trying to him out.

1269
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

1270
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1271
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 6: The thing with the Bill narrative too, though, right now

1272
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 6: this is just hard for me, is like and you

1273
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 6: know all that stuff like that we talked about for

1274
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 6: the last four years, and it's just like, I but

1275
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 6: like just the state of the offense right now, It's like,

1276
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 6: how did Bill Belichick let this team get to this point,

1277
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 6: and even if he was still here.

1278
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: Do you how do you salvage it? I mean we're

1279
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: talking it's multiple years he's been on the I mean,

1280
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 4: what happened to the reset year in twenty twenty, I

1281
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: mean we're four years later.

1282
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: Oh oh, that was a great year of coaching. He

1283
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: went seven and nine with.

1284
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 6: A guy who can't throw the ball, who picked the

1285
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: who wanted to have a guy who can't throw the ball,

1286
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 6: And that's where I agree.

1287
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, actually it was kind of it was kind of

1288
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: a good coaching. It was a good coach, but that

1289
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: wasn't all of his job. You know, that was only

1290
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: part of his job.

1291
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: He did not do a good coach I think for

1292
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 6: that first week against Miami when they kind of sprung

1293
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 6: it on him, you know, and all right, well that

1294
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 6: was good.

1295
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: Because it was a little different, but you know, and

1296
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: then it flamed out.

1297
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: And I know, but Cam Newton was god awful.

1298
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: You know, is better than Mac Jones.

1299
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that Paul at this point he was, Yeah.

1300
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: He was last year, not twenty one, twenty one. Mac

1301
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Jones was a lot better than anything Cam Newton did.

1302
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: But the other part, like what Fred said, I can't

1303
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: believe Felger, you know, didn't respond like that's the kind

1304
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: of stuff Like all Felger said, well, who's responsible for

1305
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: putting the team together, you know? Was Bill? And then

1306
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: I would have gone a step further if I were Felgrim,

1307
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 3: like the reason why they're so lacking on offense is

1308
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: because Bill doesn't believe in it. And this is the

1309
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: same style of play that he's tried to use for

1310
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: twenty five years that is not really working anymore without Brady.

1311
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: It's not a lazy narrative to say that they had

1312
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: eleven different seasons without Brady and never won a playoff game,

1313
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 3: but one playoff win. Sorry, do you think any.

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Speaker 6: Part of it with Felger is a very experienced radio person,

1315
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 6: was when you have somebody on the ropes like that

1316
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 6: and let him just kind of let him go.

1317
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: I do think that's what he did. And I know

1318
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: Tony and Murray got a lot of christ Now, I

1319
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: would not have done what Tony did. You guys know

1320
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: me well well enough. There's no way I could have

1321
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: sat that out right, There's no way I would hear

1322
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: sat down. But I think Tony looked at it that way,

1323
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: like this guy's making a fool of himself. Mike is

1324
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: doing fine. I'm gonna sit out.

1325
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you don't want it, like he is a

1326
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: guest on your show, you don't want to. I think that.

1327
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Speaker 3: I think that was part of it too, this whole thing,

1328
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: like I don't know what I was coming on for.

1329
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: You came on looking for a fight. Lombardy went there

1330
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: looking for a fight.

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 5: Think.

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Oh, the whole thing about the fake Patrick Pass account

1333
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: that he retweeted.

1334
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is it was about.

1335
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: There's a fake Patrick Pass account.

1336
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: Then even I know this, Jesus, I don't do social media.

1337
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 3: You don't, Okay, maybe on TikTok, I'll teach you how

1338
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: to do I'll teach you that. I'll teach you the

1339
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: ins and outs of TikTok. But there's a fake Patrick

1340
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: Pass account that said that.

1341
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 5: You know.

1342
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: Basically, Felger was able to convince the Crafts to move

1343
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: on from Belichicker. Felger was able to convince the crowd

1344
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: and Michael Lombardi quote tweeted and said preach In other words,

1345
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know that he spelled preach wrong too. So

1346
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: in fairness I don't. I believe Mike thought it was

1347
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: real too. It was really Patrick passed too, like neither

1348
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: one of them knew it was a fake.

1349
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Account, but still knowing thinking that it was real makes

1350
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: that tweet or that response by Lombardi's right.

1351
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. He came in looking for

1352
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: a fight. You can't then pretend, is it Flegler?

1353
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: Right?

1354
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 3: Like that's like it's like John Dennis.

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Speaker 12: Like.

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Speaker 1: Like you're so above you. I don't know your name.

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Speaker 3: You're exposing yourself as a fraud. Right, all right, as

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Speaker 1: We will take a break. Lots of emails, lots of

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Speaker 7: As I think back over the past few seasons, I

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Speaker 5: PU halftime show. Matise is letting me host today because

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Speaker 5: this is actually gonna be my last halftime show because

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Speaker 5: I accepted a job with p WHL Boston, so I

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Speaker 5: will be moving on from the new England Patriots. But

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Speaker 5: I get to host today's episode, so I'm super excited

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Speaker 5: about that.

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Speaker 4: I gift for all you do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like great. I don't have to do it today,

1396
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Speaker 5: but as always, we're to get started with some trivia,

1397
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 5: and with the super Bowl coming up, I figured might

1398
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 5: as well have some super Bowl themed trivia. So first question,

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Speaker 5: what was the average ticket price for the first ever

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl? Let tell you what it was, certainly not

1401
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: what it is now, all right, super Bowl twenty seven. Okay,

1402
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 5: so by defeating the Bills fifty two to seventeen, which

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 5: coach became the first person to win a national championship

1404
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 5: and a super Bowl title. I have no idea then

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01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 5: looking at super Bowl thirty three, which Hall of Fame

1406
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: quarterback rode off into the sunset after winning MVP honors

1407
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 5: and the super Bowl that year. So a little bit

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 5: of history lesson Yeah yeah, found them on CBS dot com. Oh,

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: but we have a super Bowl coming up this weekend.

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01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 5: The San Francisco forty nine ers and the Kansas City

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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 5: Chiefs for super Bowl fifty eight. This is it. Well,

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 5: maybe it's been rumored to be the super Bowl that

1413
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 5: nobody wanted, but it is a rematch of the one

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: from twenty twenty. How are you feeling. Let's talk about

1415
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs for a second. How did they

1416
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 5: get here? How do they get this?

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I don't think they're that good. Like the defense, it's

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 9: the defense. Stagnol is an unreal defensive coordinator. He stuffed

1420
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 9: us twice in the Super Bowl or yeah, one of

1421
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 9: the two I forget. So really defense, I mean the

1422
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 9: wide receivers for the Chiefs just haven't.

1423
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: Been all that.

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Speaker 9: But that's how you kind of prove greatness as a quarterback,

1425
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 9: which Mahomes has done, which is you elevate the players

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 9: around you. Yeah, and he's done that. I mean they

1427
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 9: hit on Rashie Rice and even Tony when he catches

1428
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 9: the ball, he's when he catches what he doesn't he's

1429
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 9: doing what he's doing. But yeah, I think just solid,

1430
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 9: good enough offense and elite defense.

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think Patrick Mahomes recently came out and said, like,

1432
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 5: sometimes you just have to lean on the fact that

1433
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 5: your defense is out playing the offense and lean into

1434
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 5: what you have. And it's gotten them this far.

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01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 9: I mean, like it doesn't help when when Kelsey decides

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01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 9: to be a football player. Oh yeah, See, he had

1437
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 9: a bit of a lull there and now he's been

1438
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 9: going off.

1439
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think he was quoted saying that he

1440
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 5: wants this Super Bowl more than anyone that he's played

1441
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 5: in before. So he's fired up, he's ready to go.

1442
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 5: Of course, there's all the Taylor Swift Is she going

1443
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: to be there? How is she going to be there?

1444
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: Too? We did some prop bets for the last one,

1445
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, so.

1446
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 5: I think we'll certainly see how that plays out. But

1447
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 5: I mean on the forty nine ers side, they were

1448
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 5: twelve and five on the season, won the NFC West,

1449
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 5: their first in the NFC. Like, they've been dominant all season.

1450
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 5: I think with Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy, they've they've

1451
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 5: really just hit their stride. Their roster is beyond stacked.

1452
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 5: Like I talked a lot about, just like the playmakers

1453
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 5: that are on this team on my own podcast, Playmakers Perspective.

1454
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: Check it out. You've got Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle, Christian

1455
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 5: McCaffrey like on offense, and then their defense is also

1456
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 5: playing lights out. You've got Nick Bosa, Chris Fred Warner, Like,

1457
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 5: I just think all around, this is on paper a

1458
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 5: more talented team. It's just going to be if they

1459
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 5: decide to show up.

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Speaker 9: It's it's it all comes down to party. The games

1461
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 9: they lost is Purty being bad and he did almost

1462
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 9: everything in his power to lose that game against the Lions.

1463
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 9: It takes some buck sometimes, and you know if he

1464
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 9: gets that out of his system and just plays within

1465
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 9: himself and just gets the balls to his Avengers, yeah

1466
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 9: he will, Like there's no like they pretty much. My

1467
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 9: thought is they can't go down. If they go down

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01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 9: by two scores, Oh, it's gonna be very hard from

1469
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 9: the comeback because I mean the Chiefs held the Ravens

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 9: to what however many points?

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Speaker 5: It was, Like, Yeah, I think it's crazy because all

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Speaker 5: playoffs the forty nine ers have had to come back,

1473
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 5: which is something that they couldn't really do all season

1474
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 5: and then figured it out in the off season or

1475
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 5: in the postseason obviously, But I agree, if they're down

1476
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 5: two scores to the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes is Patrick

1477
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 5: Mahomes in the playoffs, like, I don't know how you

1478
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 5: come back.

1479
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 9: You're gonna you're gonna get the nitpicky calls against like

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 9: for Mahomes, like it's all gonna happen, so you just

1481
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 9: like you kind of. I don't want to say, play

1482
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 9: a perfect game, but you can't turn the ball over?

1483
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you?

1484
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 5: Who do you think is gonna come out on top?

1485
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm doing to want or think yeah,

1486
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 9: yeah there's two maybe because you know, I don't. I

1487
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 9: think the Chiefs defense is too good for it to

1488
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 9: be like too high scoring a game. I'm gonna go

1489
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 9: like twenty one seventeen, forty nine ers fair, I think they.

1490
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 9: I think Shanahan finally gets it done.

1491
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1492
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 9: I don't know who MVP will be. It'll go to

1493
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 9: whoever the quarterback is, but it might be like you know,

1494
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 9: like fifty one, like Tom Brady was an MVP, but

1495
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 9: James White, yeah did all the dirty work.

1496
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: But I feel like it would be tough for the NFL,

1497
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 5: if like the forty nine Ers win, to not give

1498
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 5: it to mister irrelevant. I feel like it has to

1499
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 5: have like that's the storyline. If you're a Super Bowl

1500
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 5: champ like you and you're mister irrelevant, I feel like

1501
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 5: you have to.

1502
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 9: It's just funny because like, you know, perty's gonna end

1503
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 9: up being like twenty five for like thirty five. Yeah,

1504
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 9: but somehow it's gonna be like one hundred and ninety

1505
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 9: yards like that. But like, and the McCaffrey's gonna have

1506
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 9: three touchdowns.

1507
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, I hope McCaffrey has an absolutely unreal game.

1508
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 5: I also think the forty nine ers are gonna find

1509
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: a way to win. I think it's gonna be a

1510
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 5: little bit more high scoring because I do think the

1511
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 5: Chiefs defense is eventually gonna wear out just a little bit.

1512
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking more twenty seven twenty one, forty nine

1513
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 5: Ers get a last second score to really kind of

1514
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 5: steal the deal. But I don't know. It's gonna be

1515
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 5: an exciting game. It gonna be exciting halftime performance. Yeah, sure,

1516
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 5: so sure, I'm excited about that. It's certainly gonna be good.

1517
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: And I think, like it's crazy because as decorated and

1518
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 5: as amazing as Kyle Shanahan is, like, he hasn't won

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl.

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: You gotta get it done.

1521
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 5: He's got to get it done. He's technically oh and

1522
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 5: two in the Super Bowl.

1523
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1524
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 5: Ohen won as a head coach and then he was

1525
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 5: also the oc Falcon, so we know how that turned out.

1526
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 9: I am my The main thing I want, honestly, what

1527
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 9: I want is a high scoring, classic game that I

1528
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 9: don't need to be worried about and not have a

1529
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 9: dog in the fight.

1530
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 9: But the past two Super Bowls, in my mind, have

1532
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 9: been ruined by the refs. Fair and I mean, we

1533
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 9: had you like the Bengals Rams, they didn't call a

1534
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 9: flag the whole game, they called them last drive, and

1535
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 9: then they just ruined the game last year with that

1536
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 9: nippicky call. So yeah, just there be ref issues all year,

1537
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 9: and I just don't want them to ruin a great game.

1538
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, that's I think that's what

1539
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: everyone is hoping for. I know nobody really wanted this

1540
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 5: Super Bowl matchup, but I think it's going to be

1541
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: high scoring. I hope it's really best team wins. But

1542
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 5: we'll step to see what happens. And thank you for

1543
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 5: letting me host. Today is the last one I'll probably try.

1544
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: To call in.

1545
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you for helping get this this little show

1546
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 9: off the ground.

1547
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss you.

1548
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: But all right, we want to we want to wrap

1549
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 4: it up.

1550
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 5: It's been fun, it's been real. Let's get back to

1551
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 5: pictures and filtered.

1552
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1553
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1554
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx Where

1555
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1556
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1557
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: History they had.

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: She had one where she was talking smack about Drew

1559
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 6: bloodshell sonats who oh now it's on.

1560
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: Now, it's now, it's now.

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01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 19: It's definitely a thing. No, but all I saw, I

1562
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 19: mean I saw like Meghan had like one hundred scream screaming,

1563
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 19: but they had just won. Like what is she supposed

1564
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 19: to put to the.

1565
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: Library face face face like just shing Freud.

1566
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: I just wanted to I'm sorry, what was that work?

1567
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: Shading through?

1568
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: Not the as I said, shoden Freud.

1569
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: He went over to many he said in two different ways.

1570
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 3: Neither one of them was correct. Shotting fucking all.

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: Right, all right, that's another great moment. Hey, are you

1572
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: counting down to the big game? Revamp your reck room

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Speaker 1: for an epic watch party with sofas, recliners, entertainment centers,

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Speaker 1: and coffee tables. From Bob's visit any Bob's location to

1575
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Speaker 1: score big on storage filled seating for your remotes, beverages,

1576
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Speaker 1: and game day snacks at every day low prices that

1577
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: will make you say, oh my Bob, make every Sunday

1578
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,919
Speaker 1: a super Sunday with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture

1579
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: store of the New England Patriots. All right, oh my Bob,

1580
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: oh my, oh my Bob. Gotta have to do that.

1581
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 6: If you're in your studio in the Bob's Discount Studio Furniture,

1582
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 6: they gonna ma kill my Bob.

1583
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: Do any reads?

1584
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 6: No, like maybe just like when the Patriots score in

1585
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 6: the preseason, you could do, oh my Bob, you know

1586
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 6: something like that little Malik Cunningham.

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Speaker 3: Don't you dare?

1588
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: Oh how dare you?

1589
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 5: Well?

1590
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: You could do things like, oh, this is so comfortable

1591
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: this chair.

1592
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: You know, just like a little where can I put

1593
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 4: all my stuff?

1594
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ah, oh, here's a remote thing.

1595
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: Look at this probably was actually sitting.

1596
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh all right, A five five past five hundred is ace.

1597
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: Take an outline web radio at Patriots dot com is

1598
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: the email address. Let's go to Scott and Wellesley, shall

1599
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: we Scott Scott.

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how are you good?

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: By Scott Hey.

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 12: Two questions that you guys. Number one, an l a Wolf,

1603
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 12: like you know, it seems like he's the guy who's

1604
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 12: running things out. I was wondering why there's no clarification

1605
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 12: on that. And are you guys concerned? I mean, he's

1606
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 12: been employed during these bad drafts. Are we supposed to

1607
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 12: assume that Elliot Wolf had all these great ideas and

1608
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 12: other scouts had all these great ideas and Bill just

1609
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 12: overruled him and everything was Bill's fault.

1610
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: Yes, we're supposed to assume that.

1611
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, yes, you are you guys aware, like you know,

1612
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:48,440
Speaker 12: anything that picks maybe the Elliott might be offensive offensive

1613
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 12: direction that he made.

1614
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: Going, that's a good it's a good question.

1615
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't have anything.

1616
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: I was doing a great bit before the show.

1617
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 6: Or it was just like Christian bumber mine cold strengths

1618
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 6: that was built, that was built, that was built, you know,

1619
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 6: like Tom tug.

1620
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: Mine mine DeMaria Tuglas was mine.

1621
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 5: Right right?

1622
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: Not mine?

1623
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 4: Not mine? No, that's a that's a great question. I

1624
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 4: mean I think that's uh, it just.

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 12: Seems like it seems like, you know, he's been here

1626
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 12: for a little while. You think you haven't you think

1627
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 12: people if he was in fact, let's just say he

1628
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 12: didn't want to pick Ni Kila, Harry or Strange or

1629
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 12: Juwan Williams or whoever, you know, all these guys.

1630
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, somehow you know about that, and so I'm hereous.

1631
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: Just the other question, Well, we didn't.

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: Hear anything before you go on, Before you go on

1633
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: from this particular subject. We don't hear any specifics. But

1634
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: we have heard of Bill overruling his scouts. We have

1635
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: heard that, but Harry is the one that Yeah, but

1636
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: nothing specific. Yeah, go ahead, Scott.

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 8: The other question I had for you.

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 12: Guys is about Beth Jones. I mean everyone, you know,

1639
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 12: everyone's doing the Bombardi impression. You know, I realized he

1640
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 12: has was I realized he's not very good, but nobody

1641
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 12: was set up for failure or the mis guy for

1642
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 12: all the reasons that you guys know. Do you think

1643
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 12: there's any chance he could go somewhere else and be

1644
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 12: kind of like a Jim Blunkett Part two where he

1645
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 12: basically leaves the Patriots not really that strong arms, but

1646
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 12: maybe he goes around, gets some weapons and he could

1647
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 12: be a useful quarterback in the NFL.

1648
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: I would say my useful would be would top out

1649
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: at like a backup that maybe would come in and

1650
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 4: play some games for it. I don't really see him

1651
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 4: ever being a long term.

1652
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: Stat I mean, I think he could be useful for

1653
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 3: a bad team as the starter, but I don't think

1654
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: he could be Jim Plunket.

1655
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you know again, part of his issue

1656
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: isn't just the tangible physical stuff, leadership qualities.

1657
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: And that's part of the whole thing. Yeah. I do

1658
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: think he had a lot of things stacked against him,

1659
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: and I think he handled them all extremely poorly.

1660
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Speaker 1: Thanks Scot, appreciate the car.

1661
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: There are very few perfect scenarios like San Francisco, right,

1662
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: they have the great roster around the quarterback, whoever the

1663
01:11:55,439 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: quarterback is. Now, the problem is it's considered this quarterback

1664
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: proof system that Shanahan is pretty tough to play for

1665
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: in this easy quarterback system. So even that where they

1666
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: have a lot of talent and supposedly the reads are

1667
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: straightforward and they make it easy for the quarterback, and

1668
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: a lot of average quarterbacks have looked better than average,

1669
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, under that system. But he's tough to play for.

1670
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 3: So even in a good situation like that, there's there

1671
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: are flaws too.

1672
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: We had some trivia at halftime, did we.

1673
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, just let's go me and you. What was the

1674
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: average rings outside Tommy Gunn.

1675
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: What was the average ticket price for the first ever

1676
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

1677
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: Oh, boy, Deuce, I'm gonna say eighteen dollars.

1678
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to say fifty dollars.

1679
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: Twelve twelve dollars, Mike.

1680
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 4: Circle square unless it was Jeopardy rules in that you

1681
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,480
Speaker 4: were no Jeopardy.

1682
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: And I hear like the average price right now now

1683
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: it's like six grand, seven grand.

1684
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I wish I had done it.

1685
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 3: But face value, the average price is seven grand.

1686
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1687
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, like I think I think rockets. Oh one,

1688
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,520
Speaker 3: I want to say my ticket was two fifty.

1689
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the nine to eleven. Was that anything to

1690
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: do with it?

1691
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1692
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember I think Houston, mine was twelve hundred bucks.

1693
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: Well, you and then you ended up getting you know,

1694
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: remember you guys had decoration tickets. No no, no, don't

1695
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: be don't be still, you got super boring. But you

1696
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: get a ticket and the price of the ticket is loll.

1697
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it tells you.

1698
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1699
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: Now we did get a complimentary I think we get

1700
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: two red and iye, wow.

1701
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: Well we did because we were working. If you just

1702
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: got flown down. But you got one for you, one ticket,

1703
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: But we got one for ourselves, right.

1704
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: Right, one for yourself and you and I got one

1705
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: for ourselves and one for whoever we wanted.

1706
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: Right, but you were in the press box.

1707
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: You got to so we know.

1708
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: So we didn't need it.

1709
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: We never needed it.

1710
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: That gave us too, That gave us two, got right,

1711
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: be tough choice.

1712
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty seven by defeating the Bills fifty two

1713
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: to seventeen, which coach became the first person to win

1714
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: a national championship and a super Bowl title.

1715
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: I'll give you the first crack, Mic, I know the answered.

1716
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 4: I just lost it. I lost track. Can I can

1717
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: you repeat the question?

1718
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty seven, the Bill's lost fifty two to seventeen,

1719
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: which coach became the first person to win a national

1720
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: championship and a super Bowl title.

1721
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 4: It's not damn Reees, is it?

1722
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: How about them Cowboys?

1723
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: Jimmy Johnson? You right, I gotcha? And that's funny. I

1724
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,959
Speaker 4: was thinking of Barry Switzer too, But super.

1725
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: Bowl thirty didn't win a title with anybody?

1726
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl right?

1727
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 10: Uh?

1728
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: Super three thirty three, which Hall of Fame quarterback rode

1729
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: off into the sunset after winning MVP honors in his

1730
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: team's thirty four to nineteen win. John Away, Right, yeah,

1731
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: John Alway, I just like to be fair. Yeah. Super

1732
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: Bowl trivia, it's uh appropriate because it's Super Bowl week.

1733
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: Can't wait? What are your plans? You got any big

1734
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl plans though?

1735
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: Key fai? Just make some food and eat.

1736
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but with who my family? Now, we're not doing

1737
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: a party or anything now, Paul, you got big, big plans?

1738
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: Not huge? Definitely benefiting from the fact that Will's in college,

1739
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 3: so I don't have to have Will and twenty eight

1740
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: of his closest friends. Yeah, like I have typically Yea's

1741
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 3: coming over and his birthday now that they had the

1742
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: week the week difference. It used to be his birthday

1743
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 3: party and super Bowl party, but now there's a week different,

1744
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 3: so it's no longer coincides with that. But for someone

1745
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 3: Wi says, what, it's not his birthday anymore?

1746
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: What are you gonna food up?

1747
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: What do you got?

1748
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1749
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do Uh. Beth has this idea she's gonna

1750
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 3: do like a little uh nacho bar. I love nachos,

1751
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 3: like We just think you can kind of make your own.

1752
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: So you have all the stuff there and you can

1753
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: go through and sort of put together whatever you want.

1754
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 6: I'd like like a nacho dip with like a cream

1755
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 6: cheese bass. I like buffalo chicken some too, but that's

1756
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 6: got cream cheese and you got to Super Bowl. I

1757
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 6: think that's like it's one of the it's one of

1758
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 6: the major.

1759
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 3: Food we'll have. We love that. We'll have like cal zones.

1760
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: We have like a bunch of app kind of things.

1761
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 3: Where are my apps?

1762
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 5: You know me?

1763
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: I love my apps. But we'll have probably rabuoli and

1764
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: like chicken tenders.

1765
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: That's what it's all about. It's about the food. I

1766
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: don't know what's the.

1767
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 3: Game we'll have. We'll have a good amount of family

1768
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: on both sides. I think my parents are coming.

1769
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: That's a big party.

1770
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: That's great, not that big. I don't think TJ's got

1771
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: the rolodecks that will did, so it'll probably only be

1772
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 3: about ten of TJ's.

1773
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: You've probably got a lift too.

1774
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean, like it used to get to the point

1775
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 3: where it's like everybody was downstairs and like all the

1776
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: quote unquote adults would be upstairs. But I would get

1777
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: stuck downstairs and like sitting on the floor at my

1778
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: own house.

1779
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,480
Speaker 4: The disrespect.

1780
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: Uh would you yell at the kids, Paul make fun

1781
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: of them?

1782
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's just yelling at the refs, like during

1783
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 4: the game.

1784
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 3: I try not to do that. I try not to

1785
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: be my normal self watching a game because like my

1786
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: in law, my mother in law, Will, its kind of

1787
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: like rolling there he goes again.

1788
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: It's like Will no Will.

1789
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 3: What Will does is the opposite. He he wants to

1790
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 3: see if he can get me to it on.

1791
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I like it.

1792
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 3: Dad, Like Marcus Smart's pretty good today, you know, smile

1793
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: one of those things.

1794
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: Uh, Nicks in New Jersey? What's up? Nick? Hey?

1795
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 10: Hey, hey, hey, So I just had a quick one

1796
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 10: for you guys.

1797
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 11: With March thirteenth coming up around the corner here for

1798
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 11: the next season. I just wanted to know a couple

1799
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 11: of names that you're that you're looking for the Patriots

1800
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 11: to resign and then also some free agents and maybe

1801
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 11: like three and three free agents to bring in and

1802
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 11: some new guys to resign.

1803
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, resign. I don't it's not really a resign,

1804
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: but I want an extension of in a redo of

1805
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: Christian barm War right now.

1806
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'd say that I would like I'd like

1807
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 6: to retain Hunter Henry. I think that's you know, there's

1808
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 6: just there's nothing out there really for tight ends on

1809
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 6: the market.

1810
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 4: Maybe Dalton Schultz.

1811
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 6: You could you could talk me into swapping Hunter Henry

1812
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: for Dalton Schultz maybe, but there's just nothing, Like I mean,

1813
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 6: you need a body there, you need an NFL starter.

1814
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 6: He's one of the only ones even in the draft.

1815
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 6: It's really hard to do.

1816
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: You want to pay Henry as little as possible.

1817
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he disagrees with you.

1818
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's but you know, look,

1819
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 6: it's it's kind of thing where you'd love to you

1820
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 6: know maybe. I mean, there's just not a way to

1821
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 6: see getting an impact tight end in the draft right away.

1822
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 4: So just what are you going to do?

1823
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 5: You know?

1824
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 4: And another thing I noted too was.

1825
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, Farah Brown had some experience in Cleveland,

1826
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 6: so these coaching staff is has some familiarity with him.

1827
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, general, you need some bodies there

1828
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 6: at the position. I'm I'm probably alone on this. I

1829
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 6: could I could take it or leave it with him.

1830
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 6: When you Doug I was gonna say, what about on

1831
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 6: when you I'm take it or.

1832
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: Leave it with him, because like if I would, I

1833
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: would resign one.

1834
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because let's just say you get a tackle, you know,

1835
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: not necessarily Joe all, but you get a good tackle

1836
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: in the second round or something like that. Having on

1837
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: when you there too is you know, now you're you know,

1838
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: if Andrews plays again, you're gonna you've got.

1839
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 3: But that's only if he wants to play tackle.

1840
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 4: Right and when you yeah, and I think you could

1841
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: do better.

1842
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: You don't think you could get a right tackle later

1843
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: in the draft or something.

1844
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying if you if you're retaining a

1845
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: when you to play tackle while you have the rookie

1846
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: play the other side, Yeah, that's great if as long

1847
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: as the one you wants to play tackle he kind

1848
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: of has said he doesn't, so you did it because

1849
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: he had.

1850
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to sign him if he wants to

1851
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: play guard, I'm not as I.

1852
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 4: Just think that's where he's best, Like I want him

1853
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 4: to play at his best position.

1854
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: I would I would resign him. I said that at

1855
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: the beginning, Like the one guy you know out of

1856
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: all of them, you know, I think dogger, you could

1857
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: make an argument for and in a WHENU those two

1858
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 3: theo's the only two that I'm really interested in. But

1859
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: I would be more interested in the when you play

1860
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: in guard than tackle because I don't really think he

1861
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: wants to play tackle, and I don't think he's a

1862
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: great tackle. I think I think he's a good guard.

1863
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: So you resign him at guard money, okay, But I

1864
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 3: would like if again, I would resign them because I

1865
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 3: think that they need to have at some point they

1866
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 3: need to draft guys and then resign them, like and

1867
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: they haven't done that consistently in a long time, so

1868
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: I would resign them. But like if they lose them Fred,

1869
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there's like a kind of an old school

1870
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 3: Patriot philosophy of I just drafted four guys in the

1871
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: last two years that for interior offensive line, Like I

1872
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 3: can get by with some combination of strange. So Mafi

1873
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 3: Jake Andrews, you know, in David Andrews, I have five

1874
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 3: guys to play three spots.

1875
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: That's where I am.

1876
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: That's where I am.

1877
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 4: I just I think you could do better at right

1878
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 4: tackle than mikeel Win. You and you know it's you.

1879
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know exactly what they think of city.

1880
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 6: But he played, he looked okay, and I'm fine with

1881
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 6: you know, and it keeps drawing the comparisons, like, don't

1882
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 6: let these guys get away. I think Michael when he

1883
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 6: was fine, But like I just think you need to

1884
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 6: recalibrate things a little bit.

1885
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I don't think he's I

1886
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 4: don't think he's the best you can do.

1887
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: Attack.

1888
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 3: I think offensive lineman, I really do. I think people

1889
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 3: that you know.

1890
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 4: Put that money towards his tackle.

1891
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 6: You know, just some other names that I've kind of

1892
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 6: jotted down a couple of other running backs just to

1893
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 6: throw out there, Paul, because I did have Eckler down

1894
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 6: on my little short list. But Tony Poulard, Denvan Singletary,

1895
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 6: DeAndre Swift were a few.

1896
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 5: You know.

1897
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, I think they should take a shot at him,

1898
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 6: Curtis Samuels at least free agents.

1899
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 3: That just guy I would go after. That's a big

1900
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: that's a big ticket item.

1901
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 4: Big fish. Jonathan Greenard from Houston. I liked him coming

1902
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 4: out of the draft.

1903
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 6: I just think you need you need an edge, you

1904
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 6: need some kind of front seven presents that that you

1905
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 6: bring in.

1906
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting a little long in the tooth for sure.

1907
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 16: For sure.

1908
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 6: And then just on the back end with like Dougar,

1909
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 6: you know, do they say, look, we want to go

1910
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 6: a little bit more of the free safety route. We

1911
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 6: don't want to have three strong safeties that we're playing.

1912
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: We want to keep Peppers in there. He's under contract.

1913
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 6: He's only I think like six months older than Dougars,

1914
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 6: So you're kind of talking about the same guy. But

1915
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 6: you know a few guys Avery McKinney, Jordan Fuller, Cameron Curl,

1916
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 6: Jeremy Chin, Jeremy Chin, more of a strong safety type,

1917
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 6: but just a freew free safety types that hey, let's

1918
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 6: get some range and some speed on the back end

1919
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 6: to compliment Peppers. We're not going to be, you know,

1920
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 6: as crazy with the strong type end strong safety compliment Peppers.

1921
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 4: My god, you know anybody else?

1922
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: How about.

1923
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: I know it's not a good class.

1924
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: No I had.

1925
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 6: I had Jonah Williams on there. I know a lot

1926
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 6: of people have kind of can you know, considering him.

1927
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 6: But he's another one that you know, was a left tackle,

1928
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 6: couldn't really play there.

1929
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: They moved him to right tackle.

1930
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 6: But you know, I think that's a better investment than

1931
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 6: you know saying when you were gonna Jeff right, and

1932
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 6: I would I would consider Kenny Moore too, just as

1933
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 6: a slot guy, you know, a little bit older. Not

1934
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 6: don't love it, but I just I think the slot

1935
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 6: position unless you bring Miles Bryant back and you know,

1936
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 6: like McConkie, McConkie.

1937
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: Talking about I know you're going to play cornerback too,

1938
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: but he probably could.

1939
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 6: But Kenny Moore, good little you know, slot player, just

1940
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 6: as a you know, compliment to Jonathan Jones or or

1941
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 6: you know, are you still in love with Jonathan Jones

1942
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 6: moving into the slot on third down and then you

1943
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 6: just get another outside guide that to kind of compliment him.

1944
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 3: He's talking about defense, well he's talking about he's talking

1945
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: about Kenny Moore and you mconkie, well, I just I

1946
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 3: just think listeners, I don't want to.

1947
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I looked up from the emails

1948
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: and I heard.

1949
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 4: Slot and he just mconkie, he mccakey did.

1950
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: L from Wisconsin. It must be really nice to be

1951
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: fred and have full faith that everything they do is

1952
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: the right thing.

1953
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 3: I want to defend you in Yeah, I don't think

1954
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: you've been like that.

1955
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

1956
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I just think there's a baseline of where

1957
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 6: we're starting over, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

1958
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: Like you can look at it any way you want

1959
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 4: to look at it, like I choose to go in

1960
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 4: with Hope.

1961
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like these guys are no good

1962
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: because they're not all Kyle Sham. I'm sorry. You know,

1963
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: there's only one of him, and he's not available, and

1964
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: so we've got to do what we can do.

1965
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 6: I realized part of the thing with Ben maculdo that

1966
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 6: that just kind of rubs me the wrong ways. He

1967
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 6: looks way too much like the principal from Ferris Bueller's

1968
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 6: Day Off. Yea, Like, I just I can't unsee that

1969
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 6: every time I look at him, it looks like.

1970
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: I don't know why any guy would have a mustang,

1971
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: mister Rooney, What is the thing with mustaches?

1972
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 5: Rooney?

1973
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, ladies like him, friend, Ladies like mustaches.

1974
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 4: It's a flavor saver.

1975
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: And I you know, I kind of know the joke there,

1976
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: what's behind that, but I'm not going to say it.

1977
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Let's see, Tim writes in Love the Show, With all

1978
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: of these packer guys now on our staff, do you

1979
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: think DeVante Adams could be in play this offseason. I

1980
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we see some former Packers on

1981
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: the team next year.

1982
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 4: No, I mean he's not available, is he?

1983
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: Who?

1984
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams from the Raiders.

1985
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: No, he just won his power struggle. We've got the coaches.

1986
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too Babishan Gary resigned with cream Bay. I

1987
01:24:59,320 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: would have taken him.

1988
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: Let's see, Alex, who's this? I don't know. Somebody hasn't

1989
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: received their T shirt from the trivia?

1990
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: What good job?

1991
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Alex? Matt is so mad from North Carolina? Yeah?

1992
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 4: Did you put posterage on it?

1993
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 5: Now?

1994
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 4: Did you put it in a bag?

1995
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: And in the context of the post Belichick era beginning,

1996
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: this is from Dan and Lynchburg. I put together a

1997
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: quick over undergame uh number one number of bro hugs

1998
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: in the Patriots war room visible on the TV broadcast

1999
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: during the draft under two and.

2000
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 3: A hey over these are good Dan, Dan?

2001
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 5: Got it?

2002
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 3: Guy? Yeah? Yeah?

2003
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: Over number of long snappers whose average annual contract value

2004
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: will exceed Joe Cardona's in twenty twenty four. He's currently

2005
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: ranked third over under two and a hey.

2006
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 3: Under those days are all under those days are.

2007
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 4: The long snapper market is expled loading?

2008
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and number of twenty twenty four undrafted UFL oh

2009
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: UFL wins A team would have with Bill as a

2010
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 1: head coach, Josh McCanns oci and Jimmy g at quarterback.

2011
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: Each team plays ten games, so this is the new

2012
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: UFL spring Ley.

2013
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 4: Oh Jimmy G. They probably do some damage. He has

2014
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 4: over under nine and a hay how many games do

2015
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: they play?

2016
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 5: Ten?

2017
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: I just said it. Yeah, the first question was a

2018
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: real good one.

2019
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 3: I swear there's gonna be a new sheriff in town.

2020
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be different.

2021
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 6: I would love to just see Bill coach high school

2022
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 6: football for the year and make a TV show about it.

2023
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 4: I think that that would just be hilarious.

2024
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 6: Like I mean and like that kind of like the

2025
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 6: comedy of it, all of like all these kids, like

2026
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 6: bra you know, and like Bill having a deal with

2027
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 6: like all of the kids.

2028
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: Bill coaching tj oh my god, that would be so fun.

2029
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 4: Jill, I got that drizz bro.

2030
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: Look at that riz.

2031
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 3: He guys a little pancake thing. Coach, did you see that?

2032
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're needing person have just.

2033
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: Blocked the phones, but you know what, you know what,

2034
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Belichick wouldn't have to worry about parents?

2035
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: Oh God, right.

2036
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a parent complaining, you know, my kid

2037
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: doesn't play enough, or you wouldn't have to worry about that.

2038
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,480
Speaker 3: You're a little bit removed from this. Yeah, he absolutely

2039
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: would deal with that if you like, can't think.

2040
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 1: They wouldn't care that it's Bill Belichick.

2041
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he might not have to deal with why did

2042
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 3: you run the ball because people would probably step back

2043
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: and say, Bill probably knows more about football than me.

2044
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: But if little Johnny's not playing and.

2045
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 4: He just lays into Little Johnny when little Johnny can't run,

2046
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 4: I mean he can't pass.

2047
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 3: If little Johnny's not playing and little Johnny's dad thinks

2048
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 3: he should be, he's telling Bill Belichick, I will guarantee.

2049
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: You Nantucket too, a lot of Nantucket parents.

2050
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:54,919
Speaker 1: Oh, Tom and Chicago. As I think about roster construction,

2051
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: there are so many ways to approach this thing. I'm

2052
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: fully aware that it's going to take two or three

2053
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: years to really be competing for championships. Besides quarterback, O

2054
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: line of wide receiver, how important you see running back,

2055
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: tight end? The list of priorities we just talked about

2056
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: that tight end is much higher up. Running Back Blake

2057
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: Korham from Michigan is someone who would be great as

2058
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: a mid round pick. But I also understand you can

2059
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: solve the running back spots in lots of different ways.

2060
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: I like Blake. Yeah, And I think you know, late

2061
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: day two, early day three, sure.

2062
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: You probably just don't. Off the top of your head.

2063
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: I was watching an Oregon kid running back.

2064
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: He was I forget his name, but I know he's

2065
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: number seven if I'm not mistaken.

2066
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm blanking on his name right now.

2067
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: But see, that's my problem is I watch guys and

2068
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 3: then I forget their names, and I just because I don't.

2069
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, in fairness, I don't care that much, but

2070
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: there are guys that catch my eye and I'm like, oh,

2071
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: I like that that the skills that can Yeah, the

2072
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: UNH translate.

2073
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 4: The un H kid looked pretty good at the Senior

2074
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 4: Police Jersey.

2075
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Love them Chad in Atlanta, so I've heard grumbling that

2076
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo has a keen eye for quarterbacks.

2077
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 3: Not sure how true it is, but very true.

2078
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Apparently the Giants tried trading up from Mahomes via mcado's suggestion,

2079
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: and he also was on record saying he thought Josh

2080
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: Allen is far and away the best quarterback in his draft.

2081
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: He thought the guy that went seven should have gone won.

2082
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: So it would seem his evaluation for quarterbacks is pretty

2083
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: pretty Not sure how we would take that, maybe with

2084
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, but it does give me hope

2085
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: that they now have legit help in choosing the right

2086
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: guy at quarterback if he's in the draft.

2087
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they've got I mean, I don't

2088
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 6: know what you know, Ben mcadoo's doing or you know,

2089
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 6: but I just I think they've got a lot of

2090
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 6: voices that will.

2091
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, chime in what I want them

2092
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: to do. I'm going to make a suggestion and I'll

2093
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: send it to football Right now, Ben McAdoo has to

2094
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: put who he thinks is good in an envelope. We'll

2095
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: steal it out and then we'll open it up next year.

2096
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: Because none of this twenty twenty hindsight stuff.

2097
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 8: No.

2098
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, I will say that I did a little research

2099
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 3: on some of that stuff, and the is it seventeen

2100
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Josh Allen draft? Was that twenty seventeen Baker Mayfield number

2101
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 3: one overall? Okay, let's just say whatever. That year was

2102
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 3: the year that Mayfield went one, Josh Allen went seven.

2103
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 3: It was either seventeen or eighteen. I think it was

2104
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: seventeen whatever.

2105
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: He was.

2106
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 3: Extensively quoted in a New York Post I think article

2107
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 3: in July. So the draft happened in April and in July.

2108
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: So this is before they've played, and he said he

2109
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 3: had Josh Allen won, Lamar Jackson two, Baker Mayfield was

2110
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,879
Speaker 3: six out of his quarterbacks. Now he was wrong on Mayfield,

2111
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 3: but the other two he had one two Josh Allen,

2112
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Jan Jackson. And that was before they played, so that's

2113
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 3: not fraudulent. You know, it was after the draft, but

2114
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 3: it was before they had taken an NFL snap. So

2115
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: just you know, I mean, as Fred likes to say,

2116
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 3: I'll give him as flowers. Yeah, but like he that

2117
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,919
Speaker 3: absolutely was an accurate thing. Now he had Mason Rudolph

2118
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 3: over Baker Mayfield. Like that one probably didn't come out

2119
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Josh Rosen, I think, oh, Jeff in Canada, oh yeah,

2120
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: we just gloss over those. I worry about the Craft

2121
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 3: family exceptions. I know they own this show and they've

2122
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 3: been amazing owners. I'm just concerned that they'll want to

2123
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: get back to the playoffs asap, which sounds good, but

2124
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 3: I question.

2125
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: If it really is the right plan. One of the

2126
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: sixteen teams in the AFC, we're in the bottom quarter.

2127
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: We are not close to competing for a spot. Oh,

2128
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: of the sixteen teams, I'm sorry. In the AFC, we're

2129
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: in the bottom quarter. We're not close to competing for

2130
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: a spot in the super Bowl. So my hope, my

2131
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: hope is Wolf and Mayo don't reach and push for things,

2132
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 1: be smart about it, focus on being really competitive in

2133
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six season.

2134
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 3: Oh, you have to look at it that way anyway.

2135
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: If the quarterback is there, take him. But if he isn't,

2136
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: be comfortable trading back and getting a more sure thing.

2137
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: Don't sign any free agents over twenty eight years old,

2138
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 1: because they're not going to be peaking when you're ready

2139
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: to compete in twenty twenty six. When does the panel

2140
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: honestly believe this team would be ready to compete to

2141
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: be the AFC representative for the Super Bowl.

2142
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 4: When they have a quarterback that can compete with Josh

2143
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 4: Allen and Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes. I think that's

2144
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 4: the waiting point, you know, and there's no easy way

2145
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 4: to get It's everything Paul was saying about mccadoo having

2146
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 4: an eye for court, like it's great.

2147
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: I mean like if somehow they got Caleb Williams and

2148
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: everything that people on Paul's side of the streets say

2149
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: are true about him, then they could compete next year.

2150
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2151
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, you know, and I think, like I expect I don't.

2152
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 3: Mean twenty title.

2153
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean twenty twenty four. I mean twenty twenty five.

2154
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 4: Uh huh okay, yeah, I mean I just I think

2155
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 4: that they should be competitive.

2156
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 5: You know.

2157
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to compete for titles,

2158
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 4: but they should be competitive. I don't think when by

2159
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 4: this year. I think they should be competitive.

2160
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 6: Like, you know, twenty twenty one I don't think was

2161
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 6: a great team. I thought that team was competitive. They

2162
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 6: had their holes. But you know, if you can get

2163
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,560
Speaker 6: a team that all plays kind of hard and you

2164
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 6: can you know, win six seven games at least if

2165
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 6: you know that kind of thing. I'm just saying competitive,

2166
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 6: you know, Like, yeah, I mean it's not like this year.

2167
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 3: They were competitive last year because I mean, as much

2168
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 3: as I make fun of it, they did have a

2169
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 3: lot of close games.

2170
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I don't know. I don't really feel they

2171
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 4: were all that competitive last year. I think. I mean,

2172
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 4: we watched the.

2173
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 3: Games, I agree, but if we're just saying six or

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01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 3: seven wins.

2175
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, almost double r up.

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01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Competitive means, you know, the last week of December, you're

2177
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: either in the playoffs or fighting for a spot, and

2178
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: you have a chance to win a game.

2179
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 3: But the emailers talking about a lot more than that,

2180
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 3: the els talking about competing for a title. Yeah, And

2181
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 3: I think there's a huge difference between twenty twenty one Patriots.

2182
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 3: To Mike's point that he just made in competing for

2183
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: a title, I would.

2184
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 4: Agree, and I think that that.

2185
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 6: But you know, twenty twenty one is the model for

2186
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 6: as we continue to test stack talent and these guys develop.

2187
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 6: You know, it's not like we got a bunch of

2188
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 6: free agents and this might be the pinnacle of what

2189
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 6: this team looks like in this kind of because that's

2190
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 6: what it was, right And I'll.

2191
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 3: Tell you the big difference to me from twenty twenty

2192
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 3: one to now is these teams are better. Like you

2193
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 3: had two cupcakes over the Jets that you do not

2194
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 3: have anymore. They are they're further in that rebuilding thing

2195
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 3: than you are. Now. Again, are they competing for a title?

2196
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 3: Probably not unless Aaron Rodgers comes back and is Aaron Rodgers,

2197
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, like they have because they have the same

2198
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 3: problem that you're going to have. And that's why the

2199
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 3: whole idea of don't reach for the quarterback, just take

2200
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: a good player later. That's great. I would totally agree,

2201
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: but at some point, if you don't get the quarterback,

2202
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 3: it's not gonna matter. You're gonna be the Jets. And

2203
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 3: again we've gone over the picks that the Jets have

2204
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: made in the last three four drafts. They've had some

2205
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: really high end hits. Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Elijah Vera,

2206
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 3: Tucker quinnin way, I they have some really good players.

2207
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 3: And I even think, is it Jermaine Johnson, Yeah, pro bowler, right,

2208
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 3: like pro Bowl whatever, But he's a pretty good player

2209
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 3: into the first round, like they eat a Hall, you know,

2210
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 3: br Breese Hall another one. Yeah, No, I mean, I

2211
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: like if they don't have a quarterback, so they're not

2212
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 3: a threat to do anything.

2213
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 4: I just think if you don't get the quarter if

2214
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 4: you don't get a quarterback in this draft, or at

2215
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 4: least you don't get one in the first two days

2216
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: that you know you like, otherwise you're taking a flyer.

2217
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 4: It's like, at least I want to come out of

2218
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 4: this year feeling like the pieces are in place, and

2219
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 4: when you know, we have a tackle. Now, we've got

2220
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 4: a good wide receipt. You know, we got Pop Douglass

2221
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 4: and this other guy who are That's what I'm you know,

2222
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 4: and you're like, look, the table is set. I don't

2223
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 4: know when we know how they're gonna do it next year,

2224
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 4: but I like the general sentiment of the email, and

2225
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 4: I think that's what goes into why we all kind

2226
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 4: of feel like if they had the trade down, you know,

2227
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 4: messing around with some of the mock drafts, it's it's

2228
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 4: amazing what you can do with an extra day two pick.

2229
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 6: I mean, just how much one extra pick in those

2230
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 6: two rounds, how much flexibility it offers you.

2231
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 4: Then, other than just having one two three for that league, you.

2232
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 3: Can get good quickly. It doesn't have to be three

2233
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: four year projects. You can get good quickly. If you

2234
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 3: just have to be good, you have to hit good

2235
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: at the draft.

2236
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean Tony from Hampton Virginia. I have a worry

2237
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: about getting Green Bay's twenty ten island a misfit toys?

2238
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: Do we think getting this band back together is the

2239
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: right answer to build upon? Maybe the sum is greater

2240
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: than the individual parts. Why has Justin Fields talked about

2241
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: as a top fifty fifty trade prospect? I see him

2242
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: no different than Mac or Zach Wilson. You take away

2243
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: his running and he's worse than those two legs go

2244
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: out after five to six years, So you wouldn't You

2245
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't be building a team thinking he's always going to

2246
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: be a runner. I wouldn't give away more than a

2247
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: six round pick for Fields. I guess this is a

2248
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: lot of propaganda by Chicago.

2249
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 3: I disagree. Hold on now, I'm not telling you I

2250
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 3: would make a trade for Justin Fields. But he's a

2251
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 3: better passer than you're giving him credit for. Even though

2252
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 3: he's a work in progress, he's far better than Zach

2253
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 3: Wilson and Mac Jones were last year. I'm not talking

2254
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 3: about all three years, but in twenty three he was

2255
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 3: far better than those other two last year, both as

2256
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 3: a passer and a runner. Lamar Jackson doesn't seem to

2257
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 3: be slowing down by the way, as a runner, do

2258
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: you think he's about to win his second MVP tonight?

2259
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 5: Right?

2260
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Is that tonight?

2261
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 4: Tonight?

2262
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Tonight? Yeah?

2263
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,799
Speaker 6: And it's more about it's more about being like Mahomes,

2264
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 6: you know. To me, it's more about escaping and having like, look,

2265
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 6: when he.

2266
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 3: Needs to go, his legs don't seem to be given out.

2267
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 3: And there is a guy who's dealt with a lot

2268
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: of injuries.

2269
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,799
Speaker 4: And never and never a guy that has an explosive burst.

2270
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 6: But you know, like, you don't necessarily need to be

2271
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 6: lamar fast to be an effective runner as a quarterback,

2272
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 6: you know, and even as you get older, like it,

2273
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 6: Fields is just smart and can learn to pick a spots.

2274
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm kind of generally the same. I don't

2275
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 6: love reclamation projects, but certainly not in the first I'm

2276
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 6: not making two rounds of the draft. I wouldn't trade

2277
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 6: those picks.

2278
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 3: For just I'm not making a move for Justin Fields

2279
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 3: and then thinking check that's done. No, that's a roll

2280
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 3: of the dice, Like, can I maybe get a guy

2281
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: who's a little bit closer to being ready than someone

2282
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 3: I'm going to draft? Like, if you add your choice

2283
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 3: between Jayden and Daniels and Justin Fields. I would say

2284
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: the ceiling for Jayden Daniels is probably higher because you

2285
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 3: haven't seen him play yet, right, But the floor might

2286
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 3: be higher with Justin Fields because he's got three years

2287
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 3: of the stuff that he can't do to fall back on.

2288
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 3: Maybe he gets better and he starts at a higher

2289
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 3: level and maybe he can be good, and then if

2290
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Daniels doesn't work out, you have the better player. But

2291
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 3: I agree with you if they want that draft pick,

2292
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 3: because you're picking so high in the round, I'm not

2293
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 3: interested in probably the second round either. It would be

2294
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 3: a third rounder for me too. But I certainly don't think.

2295
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: Do you think red like if you had Justin Fields

2296
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 3: like that solves your quarterback issue?

2297
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: It could, yeah, but you feel like it did. I

2298
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know.

2299
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 3: I honestly, Yeah, I'm with you. I think there's a

2300
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 3: there's a lot of unknown.

2301
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Arthur's in New York. What's up Arthur?

2302
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 12: And it has to go in guys.

2303
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 20: I wanted to go back to something spread was sorry

2304
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 20: Paul was talking about earlier about the offensive lineman and

2305
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 20: potentially walking down a tackle in the draft. But I

2306
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 20: just think that it's kind of like a notion that

2307
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 20: if you take a tackle early, he's a lock.

2308
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 12: To be a stud.

2309
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 3: No bike if you take I never said, I know,

2310
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm not saying.

2311
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 20: I'm saying in general like this is like, oh, let's

2312
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 20: just take Joe all.

2313
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 10: We know he's going to be good.

2314
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do not subscribe to that theory.

2315
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 20: Yeah, but like when I think about like these tackles

2316
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 20: going super high in the draft, I remember the twenty thirteen.

2317
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 12: Draft with Eric Fisher and Luke jokel.

2318
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, we're fighting over you know, who's going to go

2319
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 20: higher there. So I think, really there's no safe pick,

2320
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 20: whether it's receiver or tight end. So I think you've

2321
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 20: got to go after the quarterback. And I've called in

2322
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 20: before talking about how much I love Jayden Daniels, but

2323
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 20: I wanted to drop a the stats to show how

2324
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 20: explosive he truly is.

2325
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 3: Can you can you can you do me a favorite

2326
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 3: and not do that?

2327
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we have other calls to do. But you, Arthur,

2328
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: you have been very good and make.

2329
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 3: You hang up on him. I would just say, like

2330
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play the same the same thing, Like I

2331
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: don't understand because there's no guarantees. You got to take

2332
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback. No, which one do you think is the

2333
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 3: best guarantee? Like, I don't I don't want to just

2334
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: take quarterback because tackles bust too. I want to take

2335
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback if I think the quarterback is good.

2336
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: Who's the best guy on the board.

2337
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 3: And if they if they think of Daniels the way

2338
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 3: Arthur thinks of Daniels, I want them to take Daniels.

2339
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 3: If that's how they feel about Jayden Daniels, then take

2340
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 3: them absolutely.

2341
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks Arthur.

2342
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 3: But I don't need stats in college like to tell

2343
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 3: me the guy's good. I know he's good. You won

2344
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 3: the Heisman. I know he's great, Arthur.

2345
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's Jaden Daniels Asian or but

2346
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: he should be.

2347
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, like he just won the Heisman Trophy.

2348
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 3: He just had a phenomenal season. He had like six

2349
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 3: hundred yards in one of the games. We know he

2350
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 3: was very productive in college. I think we all know

2351
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 3: that Matt's in Virginia Beach.

2352
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up, Matt?

2353
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 15: Hey, how's everybody doing today?

2354
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Good?

2355
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: Good man?

2356
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 15: I just had a quick question. We've been talking a

2357
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 15: lot about offense. I like to shift gears to defense,

2358
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 15: and uh, just ask you guys, it's a guy like

2359
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 15: Chase Young, if he were to make it the free agency,

2360
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 15: how willing would you be to take a look at

2361
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 15: him and bringing him in you know, he's a wonder

2362
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 15: to prove it deal or longer term contract.

2363
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: I think that to me, the thought of Chase Young

2364
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: is better than the player like he makes plays.

2365
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm just curious why why that should be a guy

2366
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 3: that you're interested.

2367
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: I don't think he's consistent.

2368
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 3: There's a prime of his career, Yeah.

2369
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

2370
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 6: I was doing some research on him, and a lot

2371
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 6: of what I've read have kind of backed up the

2372
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 6: things that we heard of kind of play when he

2373
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 6: wants to play and one of those kind of guys.

2374
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 4: So those things a little scary to me.

2375
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 3: Do you think he's as good as people think? I

2376
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 3: think what he wants to be, Yeah, I mean, if

2377
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 3: he is, then I would put.

2378
01:41:58,920 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 4: In But I don't know.

2379
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 6: I just again trying to rebuild culture, trying to you know,

2380
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 6: bring in guys that are on the uptick. I would never,

2381
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 6: you know, shoot down a flyer on a guy like that,

2382
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 6: but to give him a big thing of money, and

2383
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 6: you know, I'd rather go that kind of like greener

2384
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 6: direction of you know, somebody who's a little bit more

2385
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 6: of an all around player.

2386
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 3: Now, if you don't you don't like the player, I totally,

2387
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 3: I totally rep I respect that I would.

2388
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: Take him, but like to make him, you know, the

2389
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: big free agent priority.

2390
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 3: No, yeah, because you don't think he's that good.

2391
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worth the money.

2392
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 5: No.

2393
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with either one of you. Honestly,

2394
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm letting you guys fight that one out. Yeah, I

2395
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 3: mean I I've seen in San Francisco that sort of

2396
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 3: taking plays off kind of thing. Well, you don't notice

2397
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 3: him for a quarter and then all of a sudden,

2398
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 3: he's all over the place.

2399
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 4: Wasn't that what the Washington guy said to us?

2400
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 3: But like, I don't, I don't hold the Washington thing

2401
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 3: against him because.

2402
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 4: He wanted to get out of there.

2403
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Right now, he's playing for a Super Bowl. Like, if

2404
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,719
Speaker 3: he's not motivated now as he's like one game away

2405
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 3: from being a free agent trying to win a Super Bowl,

2406
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 3: he ain't ever going to be motivated, all right in

2407
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 3: that regard, I agree with you, speaking of Super Bowl.

2408
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: I know we have more calls. Maybe we'll get to

2409
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: them if we finish up here. But we do need

2410
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: to get to the big game.

2411
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 3: We really need fifteen minutes for that.

2412
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 4: We might we'll see, can we say Super Bowl?

2413
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: First we have to go over what the standings are

2414
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: going into the big game.

2415
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so last week we all went one and one.

2416
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 3: I think I read these offs before with a spread.

2417
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 3: Evan went two and oh and then the rest of

2418
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 3: us were one and one. So the totals for the

2419
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 3: playoffs are Fred eight and four. I'm sorry, Fred ten

2420
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 3: and two. Yeah, thank you, Paul and Evan eight and four,

2421
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 3: Mike seven and five, Alex six and six.

2422
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: So I've won the playoffs.

2423
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 3: That is right over, you have clinched it.

2424
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: Unless we want to, you know, give more weight to

2425
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: this game, like it's double or nothing or something. Anyway.

2426
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 3: With the spread, Fred also leads, but he can he

2427
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 3: can be caught, depending on I think I just using

2428
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 3: my deductive reasoning, I think I'll have a chance to

2429
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 3: catch him. Fred is eight and four, Paul and Evan

2430
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 3: are seven and five. Mike and Alex have been eliminated

2431
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 3: four and eight. At no point did that make any sense.

2432
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 3: So now you're just playing for the dumber from having

2433
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 3: heard that. Okay, may God have mercy on your soul.

2434
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: All right. So now the Super Bowl Sunday at six

2435
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: point thirty on CBS, Nickelodeon, Paramount plus.

2436
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 3: Plus and Univision get a plus at AH so.

2437
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: Various ways to watch. The twelve and five forty nine

2438
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: Ers are the visiting team against the eleven and six Chiefs.

2439
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 3: Theniners are favored by two two, And.

2440
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are taking this personally why because they they

2441
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: think it's disrespectful. Oh the Chiefs.

2442
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 5: No.

2443
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 1: I thought the Chiefs are favorite. No, no, no, they're

2444
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: a favorite. But the Chiefs are upset because they feel

2445
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: they're disrespected.

2446
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 3: I think Fred should win this because evidently he's the

2447
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 3: only one paying attention to anything going up with this game.

2448
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 6: I kind of haven either. It's hard to pick against

2449
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes. That's that's the hardest thing right now. I

2450
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 6: think everybody is now just like kind of accepting that

2451
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 6: he's really good and that he can single handedly, you know,

2452
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 6: win win games.

2453
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: With them, but not Patriots fans.

2454
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: But I am.

2455
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 6: I'm going to go with San Francisco in this game

2456
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 6: just because and part of this, I'm going to tie

2457
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 6: it back to the three podcast. You know, Bruski talked

2458
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 6: a lot about learning how hard it is to play

2459
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 6: defense in the Super Bowl and what a grind it is,

2460
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 6: And I just think, over the course of a sixty

2461
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 6: minute game that.

2462
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 4: Is spread out over close to four hours, probably San

2463
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 4: Francisco's weapons are just going to be too much. You

2464
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 4: know that that they're gonna get going. They're going to

2465
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 4: be the ones with the gas at the end.

2466
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 6: And I think you got to respect the Chiefs, but

2467
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 6: I think that in the end that just the overall

2468
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 6: ount of weaponry that the forty nine ers have is

2469
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 6: going to be the difference. So I'm going to take

2470
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers to win this game. I do

2471
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 6: think it will be close, but I'm going to say

2472
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 6: San Francisco twenty four Kansas City eighteen.

2473
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 3: Do you have any picks from Alex or Evans?

2474
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 4: I do Evan actually chiming in? This is from Evan directly.

2475
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm picking the Niners BT dub for my guy Kyle,

2476
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 4: So I.

2477
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: Don't even know what that means.

2478
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Kyle Shanahan fro offense dub. By the way, Oh

2479
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 3: Jesus BT dubbs man.

2480
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like Buffalo wow woe.

2481
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 4: I was speaking slang. You know you got that Riz.

2482
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 3: He goes Buffalo, So you have nothing from Alex.

2483
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

2484
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Wow, she's just given up.

2485
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 3: She's eliminated.

2486
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,959
Speaker 1: Exactly. Color finish. The race's South Beach, the race.

2487
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 3: In South Beach.

2488
01:46:59,560 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

2489
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 4: I think she's in Miami.

2490
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 3: It's good for her finish. So I am taking Kansas City.

2491
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 1: Because I hate Patriots fans and that will make them upset.

2492
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 3: It is kind of because of hatred, but you have

2493
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 3: the wrong hatred. Kyle Shanahan, Yeah, I just think that

2494
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 3: he is such a pompous, douche flame guy. I agree

2495
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 3: with something Mike said. I think it's awfully hard for

2496
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 3: me to sit back and think of Patrick Mahomes as

2497
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 3: an underdog and bet against him. And I think the

2498
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 3: Chiefs have sort of gotten something going offensively. I think

2499
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 3: the Niners have not looked good in the postseason, so

2500
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 3: it's not just a hope pick. I think the Niners

2501
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 3: really played with a lot of fire and their two

2502
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 3: playoff wins, and I think against Kansas City, if they

2503
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 3: build that kind of a hole for themselves, they will

2504
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 3: not climb out of it. So I think it will

2505
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 3: be a little bit higher scoring. I think both defenses

2506
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 3: are okay but not great, and I do think the

2507
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 3: weapons on Sam Butacisco are great. And I think Patrick

2508
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 3: Mahomes is great. So I'm going to take the Chiefs

2509
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty seven.

2510
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a This has the makings of a

2511
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,560
Speaker 1: really good game, like whether or not you're just like

2512
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: into the flash or into the substance of football. I

2513
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: think everyone's going to be pleased by this game. There's

2514
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things we know. We know Mahomes is

2515
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 1: a winner. We know he's going to play his best,

2516
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, and he's Patrick Mahomes. We know that the

2517
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs have also had trouble.

2518
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 3: But he's against Brady.

2519
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 4: What does that have to do with anything.

2520
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 3: We know he's a winner. How do you call him

2521
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: a Winter Fred?

2522
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: Okay, But we also know that the Chiefs have been,

2523
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 1: you know, struggling scoring points. That's a fact. That's a fact.

2524
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: But we also know that the Chiefs defense has played

2525
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: well enough to you know, keep them in games, and

2526
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Mahomes always does enough when it matters most. So we

2527
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 1: know that on the other side of the ball. We

2528
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: know that the forty nine ers have a collection of

2529
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: hell on on offense that we haven't seen it a

2530
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,879
Speaker 1: long time. You know, maybe Miami is a little bit comparable,

2531
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: but I mean it's just and you know, so that's

2532
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: huge for them, and their defense is okay, it's not great.

2533
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 1: The one thing we don't know in this game is

2534
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: how Purdy's gonna be because he's never been there before.

2535
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: And to me, that's the key. I you know, what

2536
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: can Kansas City's defense do to force Purdy to be

2537
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: the guy, because that's what I would be aiming to do.

2538
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: Take McCaffrey out as much as we can make him

2539
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 1: throw the ball, get after him, put him under pressure,

2540
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: rattle him early. So that's the key. So you would say, okay,

2541
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: so you're picking the Kansas City Chiefs.

2542
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 3: No chance.

2543
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: The problem is, I think I think the forty nine

2544
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: ers have so much talent and Shanahan is a good

2545
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: enough offensive mind that he's going to be able to adjust,

2546
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: just like he did against the Ravens that second half,

2547
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: they kind of ran away with it, even though in

2548
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 1: the first half struggled. I think they think they have

2549
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 1: so many answers to whatever Kansas City will throw at them.

2550
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: The question is can pretty execute in this game in

2551
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: the biggest of stages. That's the question. So if you

2552
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 1: don't think he can, you're picking the Chiefs. I think

2553
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: he'll do enough to be able to, you know, with

2554
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: his cast of characters. I think he'll end up winning

2555
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:29,839
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty four, it's going to be forty.

2556
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 4: Nine ersty party comes through.

2557
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 3: Sorry, I thought I would have a chance.

2558
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I did.

2559
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 3: I thought I would have a chance if I was

2560
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: right and he was wrong, that I could catch him.

2561
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I do.

2562
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I gave you But what like your reasoning

2563
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 3: the things.

2564
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 4: We know what we don't know? No, it is one

2565
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 4: thing we don't know, what is brock perty.

2566
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 3: The figuring it out and changing in the Ravens like

2567
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 3: you were talking about the Niners and then you were

2568
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 3: talking about.

2569
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: The what do we got?

2570
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 4: And look who is charging in not out?

2571
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 1: Whoever they played? Whoever the forty nine ers played this.

2572
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 4: ALEXANDROF.

2573
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 6: Francisco, she ways in with a Chiefs upset thirty five

2574
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 6: to twenty eight. Swifties overwhelmed NFL buying Super Bowl merch.

2575
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Thirty five to twenty eight. Okay, okay, job Alex No,

2576
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: I meant whoever forty nine is played in the NFC

2577
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: game the second half, they just kind of like so

2578
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: they adjusted and they ran away with it.

2579
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 3: First of all, yeah, they won by a field goal.

2580
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2581
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 3: Second of all, the offense was basically consisting of a

2582
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 3: ball off a guy's face for fifty one yards and

2583
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 3: then a fumble inside the twenty like the scrambles. And

2584
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how the Ravens got into it, but

2585
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 3: I think he misspoke on the Ravens.

2586
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 1: But no, I just I think I think the forty

2587
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,560
Speaker 1: nine ers have They just have so many answers to

2588
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: whatever you throw at them, and in Shanahan knows how

2589
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: to use it.

2590
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 3: It's really not what what are we got?

2591
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: Time? Yeah?

2592
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 3: Goo ahead. It's a good offense. There's a lot of

2593
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 3: teams that have a lot of weapons. You're just not

2594
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 3: used to seeing them because we get stuck with watching

2595
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 3: a team that doesn't have any. Oh, Paul, come on,

2596
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 3: but you you don't think, like, just as as a

2597
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 3: point of comparison, you don't think the Eagles have a

2598
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 3: comparable amount of weapons to San Francisco couple. You don't

2599
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 3: think a J. Brown, DeVante Smith and Dallas godd Or

2600
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 3: similar to Brandon Ayuk, Deebo Samuel and George Kittle.

2601
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: And throwing Christian mcket don't forget him.

2602
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift isn't as good as McCaffrey, not even close,

2603
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 3: but in that realm, and Jalen Hurts is nine thousand

2604
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 3: times better than Rock Purdy. Like that's the biggest gap

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01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 3: out of all of those plays. So, like, I think

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01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 3: there are teams that have good weapons.

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you're not wrong.

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01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 3: I just we're talking about San Francisco like that. There

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01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 3: were seven pass you know, like this is this unstoppable

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01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 3: thing that can't be slow. I saw them get slowed

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01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 3: a lot this year.

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01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 1: The versatility of Deebo Samuel and McCaffrey, both in the

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01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: run game and the passing game.

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01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's they're good. It's a good offense. Yeah, yeah,

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01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 3: thank you. There are other good offenses too.

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01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: Okay, but they're not in this Super Bowl. But I'm

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01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 1: we're only dealing with this.

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01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 3: You're talking about the Niners like it's this unstoppable force. Yeah,

2619
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 3: they've been stopped. They were stopped by Green Bay.

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 4: They have been stopped two weeks ago. Go back to

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01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 4: my point, it's just I think they just have so

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01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,879
Speaker 4: many pieces that can score quick.

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01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 4: And that's what I feel like is going to happen.

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 6: Nor the end of the game, when it's so hard

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01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 6: for any defense to get a stop, that all of

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01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's now McCaffrey for twenty, you know, and

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01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 6: then Debo on an end around for fifteen.

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01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 4: You know, like those kind of things.

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01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: And that's the other It might not happen. But but

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 1: here's you know, here's the thing I give you, Kansas City,

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01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: they've got that experience. A lot of teams that get

2633
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, they're adrenaline, you know, they're all,

2634
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,799
Speaker 1: you know, ready to go. First half, and then second

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01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: half you see a lot of points because the defenses

2636
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 1: are just tired.

2637
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah that's Tom Brady's then, you know, they're just tired

2638
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 3: a lot.

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01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: But I think Kansas City knows that they know how

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01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: to handle themselves in the Super Bowl. They've got that experience,

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01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 1: and it's very much like the Patriots. You know, the

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01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: Patriots leaned on that experience toward you know the second

2643
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:04,839
Speaker 1: half of the dynasty because they knew what to expect,

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01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: they knew the difference between the first half and the

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01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: second half, and I do think that's huge.

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 3: To Freddy's point, I do think that if the Chiefs

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01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 3: are gonna win, they're gonna need to get out to

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01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 3: a lead and then hold on because I think if

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01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 3: they get in a shootout and it goes back and forth,

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01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 3: I think San Francisco's offense is better. I do agree

2651
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 3: with Freddy that San Francisco has more options offense.

2652
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 1: But here's the thing that would worry me, even in

2653
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,719
Speaker 1: a shootout late party like he's gonna make that mistake

2654
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 1: and Mahomes isn't proper.

2655
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 3: Right, But I feel like Mahomes needs to put an

2656
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 3: amount of points on the board that San Francisco can't

2657
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 3: get to because of party. Do you know what I mean?

2658
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 3: If they're able to play the game on their terms

2659
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 3: and be balanced and go back and forth, I think

2660
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 3: San Francisco will be fine offensively. I think the Chiefs

2661
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 3: are gonna slow him down early and get a lead.

2662
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then and then it's like, do you really

2663
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 4: trust Rock Purdy to be able to have the Brady

2664
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 4: last minute drive?

2665
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes, we know what you would do.

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel great about that, but I also wouldn't

2667
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 3: feel great, Like you know, a lot of baitis like

2668
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 3: that throw that Garoppolo couldn't make when they played Kansas

2669
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 3: City last time. I don't have a lot of fit

2670
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 3: unless it goes off of the defensive back's face. Again,

2671
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 3: like I don't. I didn't see much from Party in

2672
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 3: these two games, and I've been a big Party defender

2673
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 3: to Evan, right, so I'm trying to be fair. I've

2674
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 3: kind of been wrong.

2675
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: Well, I think he bailed himself out with his legs,

2676
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 1: which was kind of a pleasant surprise for he did.

2677
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 3: He moves, he moves well, and he did make some

2678
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 3: plays with his legs when he had to. But he

2679
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 3: hasn't been good in the games. He's been good when

2680
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 3: he's had to be. And you know, obviously you'll take

2681
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 3: that if you have those options, a really good game

2682
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 3: or not coming through in the clutch or so so

2683
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 3: during the game, but coming through in the clutch. I

2684
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 3: think would all take that.

2685
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: But all the people that are like, how can you

2686
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 1: bet against the Chiefs, they're right. I mean, you know

2687
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 1: that experience in Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid I think

2688
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: gives them, you.

2689
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 3: Know, so a good one. I think it should be

2690
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 3: a good matchup. I think the Niners have been the

2691
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 3: best team all year. Over the balance of the seven

2692
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 3: team games, they were the best team. But it doesn't

2693
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 3: matter who's the best team on Sunday.

2694
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited. I can't wait. You know, I

2695
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: won't be having the big you know gala that Paul

2696
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: will be here. Just be me and my wife, Paul

2697
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: and the dog.

2698
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's be me.

2699
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 3: And it's a small g galler this year.

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01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2701
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 1: But DraftKings will be hot.

2702
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 5: Oh.

2703
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 1: They should have record scorcha record revenue on that day.

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Speaker 5: So.

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01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: I know we're not allowed to gamble, right, but if

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Speaker 1: we didn't work, would you be gambling? Would you this game?

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Speaker 1: Go on one of these apps and put.

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Speaker 3: Some money down me, just on some of the stupid

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Speaker 3: prop stuff I would like to, especially, just to make

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Speaker 3: it more interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not paying for a ticket, So put some

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Speaker 1: money on the game, you know.

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Speaker 4: Sure, make a little more a little interesting.

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Speaker 1: But we're not allowed to and we will not do that.

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Speaker 20: Sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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