Speaker 1: What's up.
Speaker 2: It's way up at Angela Yee. I'm here with I
Speaker 2: mean the biggest. We got Mickey guyon in the building.
Speaker 3: Who are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3: I am so good?
Speaker 1: I feel like we had a lot to catch up
Speaker 1: on right now. Oh you came in.
Speaker 2: I said, the hair is hairing today. It looks beautiful
Speaker 2: with the little curtain bangs. What's going for now?
Speaker 1: I first saw you and met you at Essence Festival.
Speaker 3: Yes twenty one, I think was that twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: It might have been twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: So you know what twenty two that is the day
Speaker 2: that I signed my contract for this show. Way Up
Speaker 2: with Angela Yee was the day that I met you. Wow,
Speaker 2: And you were at Essence Festival and I knew your
Speaker 2: name and I knew you were like a big deal.
Speaker 2: But also you know, you went and performed there and
Speaker 2: you were so amazing. And then I interviewed you, yes,
Speaker 2: right after that live for Hulu. So good to see
Speaker 2: you in person and have a real sit down.
Speaker 3: And I am so glad and you know, like going
Speaker 3: to perform at Essence Fest that time, and I performed
Speaker 3: this year and seeing so many more country the art
Speaker 3: black country artist at the event has just been really
Speaker 3: really cool to see.
Speaker 2: And let's discuss that too, because country music is something
Speaker 2: that you've always wanted to do, but we know that traditionally,
Speaker 2: country music hasn't always been the most welcoming when it
Speaker 2: comes to black women, when it comes to black people
Speaker 2: in general, even though there have been black country artists
Speaker 2: from the beginning. So for you getting started, how was that?
Speaker 3: You know, initially it was really really great. I got
Speaker 3: my record deal right out of the gate, and things
Speaker 3: were going really well. I've got to do so many
Speaker 3: amazing things, and I'll never forget when I got signed.
Speaker 3: The president of the label that I was signed to,
Speaker 3: Capital told me, he goes, I'm telling you, Mickey, it's
Speaker 3: really hard in country music for women, and it's going
Speaker 3: to be even harder for you. But just know that, like,
Speaker 3: we're in it and we're going to we're here to
Speaker 3: try to make it as amazing as possible.
Speaker 1: That feels good.
Speaker 3: But then the real work came in and he was
Speaker 3: not lying.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: Was and still is extremely hard for black women as
Speaker 3: well as women and country music.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, And then the real work started
Speaker 2: and just think about like for you going out there
Speaker 2: like that. Right now, you see a lot of people
Speaker 2: who are like, oh, I'm doing country music. I'm doing
Speaker 2: a country album obviously, and I know everybody's Beyonce, Beyonce,
Speaker 2: Beyonce because that was such a big deal. But it's
Speaker 2: also I feel kind of like, okay, but I've also
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just too appreciative of the fact that
Speaker 2: she did that and brought more attention to it, and
Speaker 2: she did pay homage to you as well as she
Speaker 2: did for opening the door.
Speaker 1: It's also kind of like, this has been, yes, happening.
Speaker 3: Yes, it has been happening, and I am really really
Speaker 3: grateful because I can only do so much with my
Speaker 3: little platform that I have, but Beyonce has. She is
Speaker 3: a world renowned superstar. She is literally the biggest star
Speaker 3: in the world, and for her to pursue country music
Speaker 3: it then encouraged her fans to start being like, well,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, let's go let's.
Speaker 2: Support some support your time Grammy nominated artists. Let's not
Speaker 2: forget that you also performed at the d I did.
Speaker 2: How was that experience?
Speaker 3: You know, there's been it was a dream come true,
Speaker 3: you know, I as we know and as your listeners know,
Speaker 3: there's been so much turmoil in this country. It's made
Speaker 3: us question so many things. But being at the DNC,
Speaker 3: there was just so much love and light and joy
Speaker 3: in that room. There are so many different nationalities all together,
Speaker 3: intermingled together, and it just felt like the America that
Speaker 3: I know that I'm so proud of that. I think
Speaker 3: we're all so proud of that. For a minute there
Speaker 3: we were like, no, wait a minute, is it for everybody?
Speaker 1: I mean, I still feel like that. We do still
Speaker 1: feel like that.
Speaker 3: I mean every single day, it's like every single day
Speaker 3: we're triggered, you know, outside of the country. Yes, every side.
Speaker 1: Of the country is what it should be called.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, there's so many it was just
Speaker 3: such a beautiful moment to be there and support Kamala.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't even imagine the kind of things
Speaker 2: that you might have experienced, so just going through what
Speaker 2: you've gone through and being a trailblazer for what it
Speaker 2: is that you do. And so there was a period
Speaker 2: of time though, when you weren't necessarily pursuing country.
Speaker 3: I so yes, so I you know, I went to
Speaker 3: La to pursue you know, acting and to go to school,
Speaker 3: and so I wasn't pursuing country music like that because
Speaker 3: I literally didn't see anybody in that genre that looked
Speaker 3: like me, Like there was no Charlie Pride, there was
Speaker 3: no Darius Rucker, there was literally no one. So I
Speaker 3: just never I loved the genre. I just never thought
Speaker 3: that I would ever be accepted into this genre. And
Speaker 3: one day I was working with a woman named Jessica
Speaker 3: Bendinger who wrote bring It On and Stick It and
Speaker 3: so I was doing some demos for her and she
Speaker 3: was like, Mickey, like, do you sing country music? Because
Speaker 3: you really sound like a country singer, And I said,
Speaker 3: I love country music. I just never thought that anybody
Speaker 3: would ever take me seriously. And that kind of put
Speaker 3: the the bug in my ear to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to start pursuing this. And it's like country
Speaker 3: music really chose me, Like the stars were aligned, and
Speaker 3: I found the ripe opportunities and met a manager and
Speaker 3: was able to get signed to a major record deal
Speaker 3: in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Because I remember there was a time when Adrian said
Speaker 2: you were actually.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, girl, we were called little women back in
Speaker 3: the day. Yeah, yeah, that, yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 3: I think it was because of that movie, right that
Speaker 3: we loved so much.
Speaker 1: But how long was that for?
Speaker 3: It was literally for like a summer because my parents
Speaker 3: asked too many questions. My dad is a businessman and
Speaker 3: wanted to see what these contracts were like. And he
Speaker 3: was like, huh huh, yeah, you need to thank God home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because a lot of people did.
Speaker 2: And people act like it's a ride a passage, yes
Speaker 2: to that, like you have to in your first get yeah,
Speaker 2: but you don't have to.
Speaker 3: You don't have to, And it's hard when you see
Speaker 3: something that you're a part of go and become successful
Speaker 3: school and I had to see that. But you know,
Speaker 3: I've talked to Adrian and we you know, we encourage
Speaker 3: each other all the time, and it's just crazy, like
Speaker 3: we were so young and babies and we got to
Speaker 3: just connect in such a beautiful way like that, like
Speaker 3: we have something together that nobody else has, like we
Speaker 3: were babies together.
Speaker 2: I never thought about that that you had to go
Speaker 2: on and see them do yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah and be really humbling.
Speaker 1: Were you mad at your dad? Like why did you not?
Speaker 3: I'm not a confrontational person, so I internalize a lot
Speaker 3: of things and I held it in I guess maybe
Speaker 3: I was, But like in the scheme of things now,
Speaker 3: the way that life has worked out, I'm really happy
Speaker 3: the way that it did.
Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, obviously looking back it was the
Speaker 2: right decision for sure. Sometimes those sacrifices you can't see
Speaker 2: ahead of that, especially when you're young and like wanting something.
Speaker 3: Yes, and there was not like you didn't have like
Speaker 3: social media to like keep it up with things, So
Speaker 3: you're just like imagining how amazing they were doing.
Speaker 2: You know what's done well for you too, being yourself
Speaker 2: and telling your story too. And so even I know
Speaker 2: you have the album coming out on Friday, Yes and
Speaker 2: m twenty seven Scary Love. Yes, you talk about your
Speaker 2: son and experiencing, you know, something that could have been
Speaker 2: horrible horrible? So can you talk about that because I
Speaker 2: can't even envision what that must feel like.
Speaker 3: So back in twenty twenty one, when my son was
Speaker 3: nine months old, he got really, really sick and then
Speaker 3: had sepsis, and we found ourselves in the ICU and
Speaker 3: I was literally watching my son's life slip away from him.
Speaker 3: It was one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced.
Speaker 3: And I remember when we were in the er. I
Speaker 3: choked out the words I said, is he.
Speaker 1: Going to die?
Speaker 3: And the nurse says to me, she goes, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to lie to you right now. I am very concerned.
Speaker 3: He is the sickest person in the er right now.
Speaker 3: And this was during the height of COVID, and I
Speaker 3: just remember falling to my knees and just praying to God,
Speaker 3: like help my baby, like just please, I'll do anything,
Speaker 3: Just help my baby. And after going through something like that,
Speaker 3: I now understand why our moms were so crazy over us.
Speaker 3: Like when we were growing up, I'm like, hell, that's
Speaker 3: wrong with my mom?
Speaker 1: Like why is she like chill out?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I mean. And so then I
Speaker 3: just understood it so much more. And like when I
Speaker 3: get in the car, when I go anywhere, like I'm
Speaker 3: just praying, like, Lord, just get me safe, get me
Speaker 3: home safely so I can be there for my son,
Speaker 3: like just make sure that he's okay. Like I'm just
Speaker 3: constantly praying. I pray more than I ever did.
Speaker 2: Maybe I got to ask fromire and nestay, were you
Speaker 2: a bad kid? Because you said your mom?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I wasn't listen. I know, as a
Speaker 1: kid a lot of times we took chance. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean chances.
Speaker 3: But I was really sheltered, Like I came up on
Speaker 3: a very Southern Baptist like you know, that old Southern
Speaker 3: Bible belt, I know, and my dad was a deacon
Speaker 3: and my mom was a deacon. Yes, nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: So was it tough for them to have you enter
Speaker 1: into this music business?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was crazy, Like maybe I should have
Speaker 3: given them more credit because as protective as they were,
Speaker 3: they saw that this was a passion for me and
Speaker 3: a dream for me, and they allowed me to pursue that,
Speaker 3: and maybe, in my mind, like thinking about it now,
Speaker 3: like I should have given them a little bit more
Speaker 3: credit and trusted them with a lot of the shit
Speaker 3: I went through in my life.
Speaker 2: Kids never give their parents credit at the time that
Speaker 2: is happening because instead what we're.
Speaker 1: Like, why are you doing this to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly, like they would ever understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, Black Like Me, that's another song that was huge
Speaker 2: for you. But also I think I opening for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. So I would love for you to
Speaker 2: discuss the process of you doing that song.
Speaker 1: Yees.
Speaker 3: So I wrote Black Like Me in twenty eighteen. This
Speaker 3: song I was nominated for a Grammy for Best Country Performance.
Speaker 3: I was the first black woman to be nominated for
Speaker 3: Best Country Performance.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine it's twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3: Okay? And I was nominated in twenty twenty. And I
Speaker 3: wrote that song just so. There's a book called Black
Speaker 3: Like Me written by a white man named John Howard
Speaker 3: Griffin who threw radiation, darkened his skin to look like
Speaker 3: a black man, and go down to the Deep South
Speaker 3: during the Civil Rights era. And he really did, you
Speaker 3: know when that phrase walk a mile in my shoes,
Speaker 3: he actually did do that, and he became a changed
Speaker 3: man because he saw the true walk of what it's
Speaker 3: like to be a black man in America. And it's
Speaker 3: such a prolific book. So I wrote a song called
Speaker 3: Black Like Me about just my experience living in this
Speaker 3: country being a country music singer, and it just changed
Speaker 3: a lot of people's hearts when they heard that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, we think about country music, we're like, ooh,
Speaker 2: we don't see none of that, said the awards, and
Speaker 2: you posted yes the country music. Let me ask you this, so,
Speaker 2: do you feel like the first time, you know, when
Speaker 2: you were nominated and all of this, did you feel accepted.
Speaker 2: And when you did black like me, was there people
Speaker 2: like saying crazy things to you?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you know, being a trailblazer, as you know,
Speaker 3: in any respective industry, it comes with the price, and
Speaker 3: there was a lot of that. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of encouragement, but there was also a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: hate that came with that as well. I'm still recovering
Speaker 3: from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine because people say like nasty things
Speaker 2: say to me online all the time, but in a
Speaker 2: genre that you're in, I feel like that's got to be.
Speaker 3: Yes, and with the Bible Verse, with the Bible Verse
Speaker 3: and their bio and American flag and they're saying, get it,
Speaker 3: get your ghetto ass out of country music. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was a lot of that. I mean I've had them
Speaker 3: come after my son. It was a lot death threats,
Speaker 3: everything that.
Speaker 1: People have no idea what you've had to go through.
Speaker 3: I mean people women, black women do and we do.
Speaker 2: But I just you know, I know that this is
Speaker 2: such a hard business and people will tell you, oh,
Speaker 2: you've got to be prepared for it. Everybody knows that,
Speaker 2: like when you come in you're you're never prepared. And
Speaker 2: sometimes people don't understand like the breakdowns that could happen,
Speaker 2: but you are happily married.
Speaker 3: I am happily married girl.
Speaker 2: Now, you had a long distance relationship for a while,
Speaker 2: how like eight years?
Speaker 1: Eight years? But you were were you traveling a lot?
Speaker 3: I was traveling a lot. You know, the distance makes
Speaker 3: their heart grow.
Speaker 2: Fonder, right, And I think sometimes because you're so busy,
Speaker 2: it's not like you would have been at home even
Speaker 2: if you guys were in the same place.
Speaker 1: So how did you guys maintain that things listen?
Speaker 3: There was a lot of hard times. There were more
Speaker 3: hard times than there were good times. Like it was
Speaker 3: a lot. You know, we had to start going to therapy.
Speaker 3: We really chose each other every single day. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that everything was perfect, but once we
Speaker 3: got past like the bad, the bad, bad, bad bad
Speaker 3: shit and still chose each other. That's how I knew
Speaker 3: that this man was my person because it's so easy to,
Speaker 3: you know, go through life with someone when things are good.
Speaker 3: But the real test is when things are bad, can
Speaker 3: you find someone that you can go through heaven and
Speaker 3: hell with? And that was my person and he supported
Speaker 3: me through all of my rise in country music. He
Speaker 3: was the one that told me when I was getting
Speaker 3: ready to quit and to give up, he said, there's
Speaker 3: so many black women and black people that need you
Speaker 3: in this genre. You can't just give up because if
Speaker 3: you give up, your giving up on them. And there's
Speaker 3: so many people that have these dreams. And he was
Speaker 3: that person for me.
Speaker 1: It was not just about you, bab.
Speaker 3: He's like, what, we're not going to do country music.
Speaker 2: So when you did finally put out your first feature,
Speaker 2: that full album, yeah, how did you feel that?
Speaker 3: I felt? I had waited for years and years, almost
Speaker 3: a decade to put my first album out, which is Wild,
Speaker 3: and I was terrifying. But I got nominated for a
Speaker 3: Country Album of the Year and I got three nominations
Speaker 3: from that album, Grammys and Grammy nominations. Let me clarify that,
Speaker 3: and it it changed my life. And in that you know,
Speaker 3: I want to say this for your listeners. You know,
Speaker 3: my mom always said, like, find your purpose within your purpose.
Speaker 3: And so when I was having my rise in country
Speaker 3: music because of a song like Black Like Me, and
Speaker 3: because of what we were going through in our country,
Speaker 3: and because people in country music were trying to find
Speaker 3: ways to be more inclusive, I didn't take all those
Speaker 3: opportunities for myself. I wanted to make sure that listeners
Speaker 3: and my community, my country music community, knew that there
Speaker 3: were other black countries singing is out there that are
Speaker 3: excellent singing country music, like Britney Spencer, like Raina Roberts,
Speaker 3: like Tanner Adell, like Madeline Edwards, like Tyr Kennedy, like
Speaker 3: I didn't know Shaboozi at the time, but like Willie Jones.
Speaker 3: Like Willie Jones, there were so many great artists with shod.
Speaker 3: If you don't know who's shod, he is so good.
Speaker 3: And I just want people to feel encouraged to still
Speaker 3: make sure that you stream and listen to all these artists.
Speaker 2: Oh no, absolutely, you've definitely shined a light on all
Speaker 2: of that and even you know, and your songs, even
Speaker 2: though you're a country artist, I feel like you play
Speaker 2: around and yeah done.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. I'm a black woman. I listen to all
Speaker 3: things come on making me, Yes, make me. I listened
Speaker 3: to Brandy and Monica as well as Dolly Parton. Yes,
Speaker 3: those are my girl, Those are my girls. Like they're
Speaker 3: just such you know, gentle sweet people.
Speaker 1: I like that and they love you too.
Speaker 3: That means a lot to know that.
Speaker 2: And then it's this is your first headlining tour that
Speaker 2: you're in the God I love now too. I can't
Speaker 2: believe this is your first time headlining.
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't believe it either.
Speaker 2: And it's only been like a weeks and two started
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah yeah, So tell me about how that's
Speaker 2: been going for you.
Speaker 3: So congratulation, Thank you so much. So I start tour
Speaker 3: this week on Thursday, on the twenty sixth, and I've
Speaker 3: been in rehearsals and working through everything and it is
Speaker 3: going so well. My band, I just am ready to
Speaker 3: slap people in the face with just beautiful and giant
Speaker 3: sounds in my set, Like I'm really really excited to
Speaker 3: perform for.
Speaker 1: How do you prepare? Like even before that, how do
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 3: You know? I got my vocal coach, I've got an
Speaker 3: excellent music director, Dez, and we just all just look
Speaker 3: through all of my catalog and try to find the
Speaker 3: songs that are going to touch people, because for me,
Speaker 3: I want people to feel the music. Like it's not
Speaker 3: always about just like how well you can perform, but
Speaker 3: like the vocals and like the music music moves people.
Speaker 3: You know, what's the first song I am good, so
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do Remember her Name, okay, And that's song
Speaker 3: is you know I was. I wrote that song thinking
Speaker 3: about Breonna Taylor because I saw all these post things
Speaker 3: say her name, and so I wrote, you know, a
Speaker 3: song called remember her Name, and I was thinking about
Speaker 3: her when I wrote that song.
Speaker 1: And you also, you know what other song is amazing women?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Women? You know women are after giving birth? Man,
Speaker 3: I listen like we are miracle workers. That was one
Speaker 3: of the craziest experiences of my life. And I just
Speaker 3: wanted to celebrate women like people. I love women. I
Speaker 3: celebrate women. I'm not one of those women that are
Speaker 3: just jealous. And if I see someone that is beautiful,
Speaker 3: I'm going to compliment them, like.
Speaker 2: You know, you came in here with all the compliments,
Speaker 2: like that's just what I do.
Speaker 3: You know, because.
Speaker 1: I frle spirit.
Speaker 3: That means a lot, because I beat myself up after
Speaker 3: our first meeting.
Speaker 2: So why, oh yeah, what a time that was. How
Speaker 2: did you feel when they even asked you to come,
Speaker 2: like you said, because they don't normally do country music
Speaker 2: at Essence festivals.
Speaker 1: That was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: I have been elated that so many black publications are
Speaker 3: starting to take an interest in country music. Like that's
Speaker 3: my whole goal, Like it's for black people to see
Speaker 3: a presence and to go out there and to support
Speaker 3: because it's so so so important.
Speaker 2: It's a not a great storytelling. Yeah, it is country
Speaker 2: music more than.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they're in country music. They all have trot
Speaker 3: beats in their songs, So why can't we make a
Speaker 3: trap beat country music song?
Speaker 2: And then when Little nas X did come on, it's
Speaker 2: like changes, Like.
Speaker 1: But people try to act like that wasn't a country song.
Speaker 3: It was a country song.
Speaker 2: But remember there was like so much controversy over that.
Speaker 2: It was wild to have other country music artists when
Speaker 2: you first started. How how were they accepting of you?
Speaker 2: How was it for you like getting to work with
Speaker 2: other country music artists.
Speaker 3: You know, for the most part, the community is really
Speaker 3: really great. The country music community has been very loving
Speaker 3: to me, and I've been very lucky to have that.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's underlying things that we obviously need to
Speaker 3: work on. There's some unintentional microaggressions that we have to
Speaker 3: work out, But for the most part, I can see
Speaker 3: that these people are really at least now are trying
Speaker 3: to do right and making this industry more inclusive, like
Speaker 3: it is one of the one industries where they have
Speaker 3: you know, diversity, equity inclusion at the CMAS and the ACMs,
Speaker 3: Like they really are trying to do things to make
Speaker 3: sure that people know that they're accepted in country music.
Speaker 2: As they should because it's bringing listen, you bring in
Speaker 2: this money to the.
Speaker 1: Expanded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like there's they someone said it's a country
Speaker 3: music renaissance, Like everybody is wanting a taste of country
Speaker 3: music because it is America's music, Like it's all of
Speaker 3: our music. It's not you know, designated to one person.
Speaker 3: When we all live in America and we all go
Speaker 3: through hard walks of life and we're just trying to
Speaker 3: make it like why can't we write about that?
Speaker 1: Now? What do you do to de stress in the
Speaker 1: midst of all of this?
Speaker 3: You know? I, you know, I just got to I'm
Speaker 3: working on that. I take I take these you know,
Speaker 3: natural anxiety supplements called stress shild that are really great
Speaker 3: to natural it's a natural supplement because I've been really
Speaker 3: scared to take like I feel you on that like
Speaker 3: anxiety meds because they really scare me because I tell
Speaker 3: everything and I always got to make sure because Steff
Speaker 3: would be like natural, I'm like, what is yeah, this
Speaker 3: is called like stress shield. I do some CBD. I'm
Speaker 3: just you know, trying to just calm myself down and
Speaker 3: you know, just appreciate what's in front of me. And
Speaker 3: I have a beautiful three year old son that just
Speaker 3: brings me so much joy and happiness. So I just
Speaker 3: try to focus on my family and that helps me
Speaker 3: do stress.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because this is a great time for you
Speaker 2: and you got to make sure that to present in it.
Speaker 2: And I really do celebrating yourself.
Speaker 3: I do because I do suffer from what's that? What's
Speaker 3: what do they call it? Imposter syndrome. I'm so bad.
Speaker 3: I have it so bad where I don't think I'm deserving.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's true and and it's something I
Speaker 3: definitely need to work on.
Speaker 1: You know how.
Speaker 2: You know you're deserving though, because this is not something
Speaker 2: that anyone else has ever achieved. You know, you've been
Speaker 2: the first in a lot of different respects and for
Speaker 2: anybody like you know, beyond, like you said, the biggest
Speaker 2: around the world. She definitely said thank you to Mickey
Speaker 2: Guyton for yeah, breaking downe of it.
Speaker 1: That's still What was the effect after that, well, I.
Speaker 3: Mean it was, you know, I just saw so much
Speaker 3: love from the country music community because you know, I've
Speaker 3: known these people for years, like you literally like over
Speaker 3: a decade, and seeing their happiness over it, you know,
Speaker 3: and Beyonce doesn't do anything small like they were just
Speaker 3: big ass flowers that were just so amazing. And it's
Speaker 3: just been just having that acknowledgment has been just such
Speaker 3: a blessing.
Speaker 2: No, because and like you said, and past the syndrome
Speaker 2: is a real thing, but I feel like you've had
Speaker 2: to overcome so many more obstacles in the average person
Speaker 2: that you know that you have to above more deserve
Speaker 2: than anybody else. And I think for a lot of
Speaker 2: black women, you know, that's the space that we end
Speaker 2: up putting ourselves in because we do end up having
Speaker 2: to work harder than everyone still, and people who can
Speaker 2: be mediocre or you know, not put in the wearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then here you are, like I can do that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hello, I'm here. Yeah, that's that's really hard.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's why I really it's really
Speaker 3: important you know that I want to talk to your
Speaker 3: listeners about being intentional with your consumerism and making sure
Speaker 3: that you really go out there and support black art
Speaker 3: and make sure that this continues, this momentum of country
Speaker 3: music continues. Like, please go out there and stream all
Speaker 3: of these incredible artists, show up to their shows, show
Speaker 3: up to CMA Fest, show up to these awards shows,
Speaker 3: and make your presence known in every aspect of life
Speaker 3: where you work, whether you work in a corporation, whether
Speaker 3: you work at the news station, wherever it is, Like,
Speaker 3: make your presence known so that we can have our
Speaker 3: opportunities and to set ourselves up for success.
Speaker 2: And House on Fire is out September twenty seventh. Now
Speaker 2: we've heard some of the singles. Now I got to
Speaker 2: ask you about the title Deserve. Yeah, what is that song?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we just talked about that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, I've again let imposter syndrome. But you know,
Speaker 3: I've gone through a lot, and so often I feel like,
Speaker 3: especially as black women, we feel so unlovable and get
Speaker 3: triggered to feel like we're unlovable and to find someone
Speaker 3: that says that you're exactly what I want and I
Speaker 3: don't want anything else, Like that's exactly what each and
Speaker 3: every single one of us deserves. I don't care who
Speaker 3: you are, and that's what that song is about.
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, well, I am excited for all of this.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you were able to come.
Speaker 1: So we've had some missus. We have had some misses
Speaker 1: on purpose.
Speaker 3: But you know the last time I was supposed to
Speaker 3: be here, like I got we got here on time.
Speaker 3: We were here Angela's and we were not here. They
Speaker 3: were like, we're downstairs and we did.
Speaker 1: Not fairness, the building is so bad.
Speaker 3: I felt bad, thank you for but no.
Speaker 1: They were like, she's going to be back and you're
Speaker 1: going to swim back around.
Speaker 3: And yes I did. Of course. I was so looking
Speaker 3: for I had a cute outfit and everything. I will
Speaker 3: thank for you.
Speaker 1: That I do.
Speaker 3: I'm in my fall spirit.
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on everything again. House on Fire this Friday,
Speaker 2: September twenty seventh. The store the tour starts isn't in
Speaker 2: DC on the twenty sixth, so y'all make sure you
Speaker 2: get your tickets. You will be blown away. I am
Speaker 2: so excited and thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Thank you
Speaker 1: Well,