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Speaker 2: It's way up at Angela Yee. I'm here with I

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Speaker 2: mean the biggest. We got Mickey guyon in the building.

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Speaker 3: Who are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I am so good?

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Speaker 1: I feel like we had a lot to catch up

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Speaker 1: on right now. Oh you came in.

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Speaker 2: I said, the hair is hairing today. It looks beautiful

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Speaker 2: with the little curtain bangs. What's going for now?

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Speaker 1: I first saw you and met you at Essence Festival.

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Speaker 3: Yes twenty one, I think was that twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: It might have been twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: So you know what twenty two that is the day

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Speaker 2: that I signed my contract for this show. Way Up

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Speaker 2: with Angela Yee was the day that I met you. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And you were at Essence Festival and I knew your

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Speaker 2: But also you know, you went and performed there and

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Speaker 2: you were so amazing. And then I interviewed you, yes,

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Speaker 2: right after that live for Hulu. So good to see

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Speaker 3: And I am so glad and you know, like going

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Speaker 3: to perform at Essence Fest that time, and I performed

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Speaker 3: this year and seeing so many more country the art

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Speaker 3: really cool to see.

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Speaker 2: And let's discuss that too, because country music is something

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Speaker 2: that you've always wanted to do, but we know that traditionally,

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Speaker 2: country music hasn't always been the most welcoming when it

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Speaker 2: in general, even though there have been black country artists

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Speaker 2: from the beginning. So for you getting started, how was that?

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Speaker 3: You know, initially it was really really great. I got

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Speaker 3: were going really well. I've got to do so many

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Speaker 3: amazing things, and I'll never forget when I got signed.

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Speaker 3: The president of the label that I was signed to,

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Speaker 3: Capital told me, he goes, I'm telling you, Mickey, it's

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Speaker 3: really hard in country music for women, and it's going

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Speaker 3: to be even harder for you. But just know that, like,

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Speaker 3: we're in it and we're going to we're here to

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Speaker 1: That feels good.

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Speaker 3: But then the real work came in and he was

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Speaker 3: not lying.

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Speaker 3: Was and still is extremely hard for black women as

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, And then the real work started

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Speaker 2: and just think about like for you going out there

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Speaker 2: also I feel kind of like, okay, but I've also

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just too appreciative of the fact that

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Speaker 1: It's also kind of like, this has been, yes, happening.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it has been happening, and I am really really

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Speaker 3: grateful because I can only do so much with my

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Speaker 3: it then encouraged her fans to start being like, well,

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Speaker 2: Support some support your time Grammy nominated artists. Let's not

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Speaker 2: How was that experience?

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Speaker 3: You know, there's been it was a dream come true,

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Speaker 3: I know that I'm so proud of that. I think

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still feel like that. We do still

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Speaker 3: I mean every single day, it's like every single day

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, there's so many it was just

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't even imagine the kind of things

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Speaker 3: I so yes, so I you know, I went to

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Speaker 3: was like, Mickey, like, do you sing country music? Because

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Speaker 3: music really chose me, Like the stars were aligned, and

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Speaker 2: Because I remember there was a time when Adrian said

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, girl, we were called little women back in

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Speaker 3: It was literally for like a summer because my parents

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Speaker 3: was like, huh huh, yeah, you need to thank God home.

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Speaker 2: And people act like it's a ride a passage, yes

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Speaker 3: You don't have to, And it's hard when you see

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Speaker 2: I never thought about that that you had to go

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Speaker 3: Yeah and be really humbling.

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Speaker 1: Were you mad at your dad? Like why did you not?

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Speaker 3: I'm not a confrontational person, so I internalize a lot

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Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, obviously looking back it was the

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Speaker 3: Yes, and there was not like you didn't have like

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Speaker 2: You know what's done well for you too, being yourself

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Speaker 3: So back in twenty twenty one, when my son was

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Speaker 3: But I was really sheltered, Like I came up on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was crazy, Like maybe I should have

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Speaker 2: Kids never give their parents credit at the time that

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Speaker 1: Like, why are you doing this to me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly, like they would ever understand.

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Speaker 2: Now, Black Like Me, that's another song that was huge

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Speaker 2: discuss the process of you doing that song.

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Speaker 1: Yees.

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Speaker 3: So I wrote Black Like Me in twenty eighteen. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine because people say like nasty things

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Speaker 2: Oh no, absolutely, you've definitely shined a light on all

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. I'm a black woman. I listen to all

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Speaker 1: I like that and they love you too.

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Speaker 3: That means a lot to know that.

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Speaker 2: And then it's this is your first headlining tour that

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Speaker 3: You know, what's the first song I am good, so

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Speaker 2: So why, oh yeah, what a time that was. How

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Speaker 3: I have been elated that so many black publications are

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they're in country music. They all have trot

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Speaker 1: But people try to act like that wasn't a country song.

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Speaker 2: As they should because it's bringing listen, you bring in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like there's they someone said it's a country

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Speaker 1: Now? What do you do to de stress in the

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Speaker 3: You know? I, you know, I just got to I'm

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Speaker 2: and you got to make sure that to present in it.

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Speaker 2: And I really do celebrating yourself.

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Speaker 3: I do because I do suffer from what's that? What's

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Speaker 3: what do they call it? Imposter syndrome. I'm so bad.

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Speaker 3: I have it so bad where I don't think I'm deserving.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's true and and it's something I

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Speaker 3: definitely need to work on.

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Speaker 1: You know how.

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Speaker 2: You know you're deserving though, because this is not something

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Speaker 2: that anyone else has ever achieved. You know, you've been

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Speaker 2: the first in a lot of different respects and for

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Speaker 2: anybody like you know, beyond, like you said, the biggest

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Speaker 2: around the world. She definitely said thank you to Mickey

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Speaker 2: Guyton for yeah, breaking downe of it.

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Speaker 1: That's still What was the effect after that, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean it was, you know, I just saw so much

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Speaker 3: love from the country music community because you know, I've

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Speaker 3: known these people for years, like you literally like over

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Speaker 3: a decade, and seeing their happiness over it, you know,

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Speaker 3: and Beyonce doesn't do anything small like they were just

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Speaker 3: big ass flowers that were just so amazing. And it's

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Speaker 3: just been just having that acknowledgment has been just such

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Speaker 3: a blessing.

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Speaker 2: No, because and like you said, and past the syndrome

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Speaker 2: is a real thing, but I feel like you've had

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Speaker 2: to overcome so many more obstacles in the average person

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Speaker 2: that you know that you have to above more deserve

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Speaker 2: than anybody else. And I think for a lot of

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Speaker 2: black women, you know, that's the space that we end

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Speaker 2: up putting ourselves in because we do end up having

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Speaker 2: to work harder than everyone still, and people who can

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Speaker 2: be mediocre or you know, not put in the wearing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then here you are, like I can do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hello, I'm here. Yeah, that's that's really hard.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's why I really it's really

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Speaker 3: important you know that I want to talk to your

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Speaker 3: listeners about being intentional with your consumerism and making sure

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Speaker 3: that you really go out there and support black art

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Speaker 3: and make sure that this continues, this momentum of country

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Speaker 3: music continues. Like, please go out there and stream all

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Speaker 3: of these incredible artists, show up to their shows, show

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Speaker 3: up to CMA Fest, show up to these awards shows,

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Speaker 3: and make your presence known in every aspect of life

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Speaker 3: where you work, whether you work in a corporation, whether

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Speaker 3: you work at the news station, wherever it is, Like,

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Speaker 3: make your presence known so that we can have our

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Speaker 3: opportunities and to set ourselves up for success.

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Speaker 2: And House on Fire is out September twenty seventh. Now

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Speaker 2: we've heard some of the singles. Now I got to

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Speaker 2: ask you about the title Deserve. Yeah, what is that song?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like we just talked about that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've again let imposter syndrome. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I've gone through a lot, and so often I feel like,

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Speaker 3: especially as black women, we feel so unlovable and get

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Speaker 3: triggered to feel like we're unlovable and to find someone

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Speaker 3: that says that you're exactly what I want and I

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Speaker 3: don't want anything else, Like that's exactly what each and

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Speaker 3: every single one of us deserves. I don't care who

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Speaker 3: you are, and that's what that song is about.

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Speaker 2: Ooh okay, well, I am excited for all of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you were able to come.

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Speaker 1: So we've had some missus. We have had some misses

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Speaker 1: on purpose.

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Speaker 3: But you know the last time I was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be here, like I got we got here on time.

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Speaker 3: We were here Angela's and we were not here. They

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Speaker 3: were like, we're downstairs and we did.

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Speaker 1: Not fairness, the building is so bad.

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Speaker 3: I felt bad, thank you for but no.

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Speaker 1: They were like, she's going to be back and you're

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Speaker 1: going to swim back around.

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Speaker 3: And yes I did. Of course. I was so looking

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Speaker 3: for I had a cute outfit and everything. I will

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Speaker 3: thank for you.

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Speaker 1: That I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm in my fall spirit.

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on everything again. House on Fire this Friday,

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Speaker 2: September twenty seventh. The store the tour starts isn't in

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Speaker 2: DC on the twenty sixth, so y'all make sure you

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Speaker 2: get your tickets. You will be blown away. I am

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Speaker 2: so excited and thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you

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Speaker 1: Well,