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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor

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Speaker 1: with you and Drake our special guest or. Latest book

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Speaker 1: is called The Energetic Dimensions. He also has one called

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Speaker 1: Healing of the Soul. Will take calls within the next

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Speaker 1: hour here on Coast to Coast. What would you say

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Speaker 1: and would be the most effective way to get into

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Speaker 1: that mode to be able to do these incredible things

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Speaker 1: that shamans do. Just meditation, relaxing, yoga, What would do

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Speaker 1: it well? Definitely meditation and yoga can really help. It's

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Speaker 1: the ability to really center yourself and to drop in

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Speaker 1: really deeply so you can here and see and feel

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Speaker 1: what's going on around you. And currently we're so directed

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Speaker 1: outward to everything that's going on into all the gadgets

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Speaker 1: we have that often short circuit our connection with ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And so in some ways, if you can take problems

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Speaker 1: or issues that you're worried about and sit with them

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Speaker 1: in meditation, prayer, nature, bathing, like walking in the woods,

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Speaker 1: you can just get quiet and then you can start

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Speaker 1: to heat here and sense and feel different things that

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Speaker 1: are happening. So there are many ways to access it,

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Speaker 1: and it depends on your own comfort with certain practices.

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Speaker 1: But getting quiet and still is key, and allowing yourself

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Speaker 1: to honor what you know in sense like you can

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Speaker 1: walk in well, now we can't, but we used to

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Speaker 1: be able to walk into can't go anywhere anymore? Right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: a room where you know, at a party where you

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Speaker 1: didn't know a lot of people, and you could almost

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Speaker 1: immediately kind of sense who you wanted to talk to

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Speaker 1: and who you didn't. That's an energetic knowing and understanding.

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Speaker 1: But we don't honor that enough. I know every major

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Speaker 1: mistake I made in my life, I overrode my internal knowing,

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Speaker 1: as we tend to think, oh, well that was just

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Speaker 1: a feeling, you know, that was just me being stupid

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Speaker 1: or silly, as opposed to really saying, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: telling me something and I need to trust it and

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Speaker 1: honor it. So I think that's a very important practice

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Speaker 1: to do, is to when you have those feelings and

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Speaker 1: awareness has come over you, to honor them. Just like

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Speaker 1: mine was really strong to go back to Borneo, and

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Speaker 1: if I hadn't gone back, I wouldn't have re met

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Speaker 1: my teacher. My whole life change so it's important to

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Speaker 1: follow those hunches. You are big on the importance of compassion.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that, well, Passion is what the world

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Speaker 1: needs right now. We need compassion for ourselves and for

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Speaker 1: each other. It cultivates patience, It cultivates understanding in it

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Speaker 1: it's key for healing. I've never worked with anyone who

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Speaker 1: is able to fully heal without developing self compassion. When

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Speaker 1: you have self compassion, you can have compassion for others.

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Speaker 1: Most people, if they don't like themselves about something, they

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Speaker 1: will not like it in other people. But that is

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Speaker 1: called projection, where you just avow your own reality, but

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Speaker 1: you put it onto other people. So you know, if

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Speaker 1: people if someone feels embarrassed about how they look, they'll

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Speaker 1: comment on the time about how everyone else looks, and

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Speaker 1: I think they look fine. You know, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: dynamic of putting it on others what we feel, and

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Speaker 1: that can happen with all sorts of things. But that

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Speaker 1: energy goes out instead of owning it for yourself. But

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Speaker 1: if we are compassionate, then we can shift the vibration

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Speaker 1: around us. And right now, we live in a culture

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Speaker 1: where things are right or wrong, black or white, good

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Speaker 1: and so if someone did something horrible, to hold them

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Speaker 1: karmic pass can come in, Like if we killed someone

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Speaker 1: whereas someone who hasn't experienced that, we'll just think the

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Speaker 1: person's bad and evil for doing what they did. Is

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Speaker 1: compassion like forgiveness, Yes, yes, it's like a way of

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Speaker 1: holding something. It's not about not taking responsibility, but it's

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Speaker 1: to forgive myself, but I have to learn from it.

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Speaker 1: who have killed someone who realize the grievousness of their

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Speaker 1: So I think there's that difference between forgiving someone who

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Speaker 1: I think we have to allow for people to grow

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Speaker 1: one mistake and you're done, you know, for we do

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Speaker 1: that in our relationships. Well, they said this to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be with them anymore, You know, right,

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Speaker 1: deal a lot with energy, and of course all of

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Speaker 1: us at some time in our lives have met psychic vampires,

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Speaker 1: people who just can suck the living daylights out of

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Speaker 1: energy out of people. Some of them are good people,

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Speaker 1: anyone who's sucking energy from another person has an enormous

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Speaker 1: not know they're doing it. They don't know they're doing it,

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Speaker 1: and that can be a dynamic in families where they're

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Speaker 1: certain family members that are so empty that they suck

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Speaker 1: shamanic work, you can get that energy back here on

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Speaker 1: And then there are people that are trying to imass

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Speaker 1: what happens in cult abuse, you know, and when they

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Speaker 1: with a lack of awareness of that, in our culture,

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Speaker 1: So it's important to realize the energies you carry that

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Speaker 1: idea behind my book is to realize that often the

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Speaker 1: energies that we absorb from other people, So like, if

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Speaker 1: someone's sucking your soul out, they're leaving their energy behind

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Speaker 1: kind of like, I feel different and I don't feel good,

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Speaker 1: in terms of one's identity. What's the most important thing

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Speaker 1: think about the power of positive energy to heal, and

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Speaker 1: that's what you draw on when you're when you're healing someone,

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Speaker 1: you're not using your own energy, You're just connecting with

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Speaker 1: do a meditation for sending or visualization, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: try and heal the virus, but also to heal the

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Speaker 1: vibration of greed, hate, and and fear which is permeating

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Speaker 1: for us to be free to be our complete selves. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the best way to do it, I think.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, at what point if you had a group

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Speaker 1: What do you think most people would want to know

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Speaker 1: our culture can influence how we perceive reality. When I

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Speaker 1: And how do people protect themselves against some of these

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Speaker 1: unwanted energies that trying to hit you, Well, there are

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Speaker 1: a couple of ways. The most effective is if you

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Speaker 1: channel divine light into your crown chakra and then you

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Speaker 1: also sending light to other people. However, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: like having protections for those kind of things. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you can ask for a protection from your guides when driving.

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Speaker 1: when I'm working with people that are carrying a lot

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Speaker 1: of dark energy, I'll even go insides, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: merge with a power animal and I'll work from inside

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Speaker 1: If you're going to do this work, you have to

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Speaker 1: protect your field, and I think that concept can apply

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Speaker 1: to today just going out to try and protect your

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