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Speaker 1: doing well. We had a massive day. The Rams and

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Rams get a massive win, and I big

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Speaker 1: And don't let a guy get behind you in a

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Speaker 1: goal line, you know, hail Mary type situation. Right, That's

429
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Speaker 1: pretty basic like you don't need to play for Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban or Bill Belichick to get those coaching points, but

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Speaker 1: obviously the throw to be able to backing up, you

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Speaker 1: start doing the yardage like he threw that from the

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Speaker 1: forty Comet caught that five yards deepen in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing I thought of that moment and

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Speaker 1: they showed some kids, you know, probably teenagers in the stadium.

436
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Speaker 1: That's something you tell your friends till the day you die, right,

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Speaker 1: I just had a child. I will tell him moments

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Speaker 1: that I saw. I was there when Navarro Bowman had

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Speaker 1: a pick at the stick and I was standing at

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Speaker 1: the sideline to win the or make the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers made the playoffs off of you're at some moments

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Speaker 1: that you just never forget and you tell your friends

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Speaker 1: about the rest of your lives. And that's the type

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Speaker 1: moment these last couple of weeks. If you're a Bears

445
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Speaker 1: fans and you attended the game, that is priceless. And

446
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing like being a sports fan that it's it's,

447
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: in a weird way, a very communal thing to do,

448
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Speaker 1: but it's also not that fun. It's stressful, it's exhilarating,

449
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: highs and lows. I mean the high of that play

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Speaker 1: to the low of them hitting the DeVante play and

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Speaker 1: then in them kicking the field goal. But I do

452
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Speaker 1: think the Bears being back is one of those that's

453
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Speaker 1: really cool for the league, and in a weird year

454
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Speaker 1: where there were a lot of injuries and the Chiefs

455
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Speaker 1: have been nowhere to be found for a couple months,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Ravens didn't make the playoffs and

457
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Speaker 1: Lamar was mia for a while with injuries and Burrow

458
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Speaker 1: was out. You know, the Bears in the business model

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00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: really helped pick up the slack they did, and they

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Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to do it, and ultimately

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Speaker 1: I thought they should have gone for the kill shot

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Speaker 1: in the two point conversion. Like when I think Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: I think crazy balls, crazy willingness to push the envelope,

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Speaker 1: and he scores touchdown, he doesn't go for two. Now,

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Speaker 1: I get you're at home. I get it's the second

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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, but it's, like I the one

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Speaker 1: thing he is in like specific situations, typically has pretty

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Speaker 1: good plays. Now, maybe some of his short yardage plays

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Speaker 1: from earlier in the game had been really bad, and

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Speaker 1: they had been stuffed in the backfield. Maybe he was torn.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, it's like, hey, just let Caleb cook.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's cooked in this moment over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. You go into overtime. There's kind of

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Speaker 1: a randomness to it there just is right. This is

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00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: not like it's just weird because both teams touch the ball.

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Speaker 1: But it's football, Like you could just have a drive

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Speaker 1: where you go three and out. You could have a

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Speaker 1: drive where dude fumbles. You just never know, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: this overtime it's more equitable now because you're guaranteed a touch,

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Speaker 1: But there's still that football is not a situation that's

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Speaker 1: played in that type of you know, a sudden death

482
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Speaker 1: moment that that's not really the way the sport is.

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Speaker 1: So it's like you go to that anything can happen,

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Speaker 1: and you're playing a team that has really good players.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this great offense that like in one play, Pooker

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Speaker 1: Devonte can hit like a forty yard bomb. Now so

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Speaker 1: could you. But I don't know, man, I wonder if

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Speaker 1: he could do it over like just run a play

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Speaker 1: and that's where to me, like run quarterback power. Would

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Speaker 1: anyone say have an issue if you're a Bears fan

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Speaker 1: that to win the game, they just ran quarterback power

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Speaker 1: in that moment, and they just had Kaylea pulled the

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Speaker 1: guard and just tried to hit the edge. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they would have I really don't. But he didn't

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Speaker 1: do it, and now he's at home. You know. I

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Speaker 1: was also kind of hoping he beats McVeigh to piggyback

497
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Speaker 1: off the Schreker thing that he hates Laflor's and McVeigh

498
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: in turn now hates him. And he doesn't really like

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Speaker 1: McVeigh because he's not some Nepo baby like him and Shannan.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like this anger in Ben Johnson seems

501
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of like my type guy. We probably wouldn't be

502
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Speaker 1: friends because people like that don't really talk to other

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Speaker 1: people that often. But I do think that we're you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a respect level I have for that type mindset.

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Speaker 1: I was really wanted to see a postgame of what

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Speaker 1: he would have said. I don't even think. I kind

507
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Speaker 1: of waited before we recorded this to see if we

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Speaker 1: got a handshake between the two guys, and we did not.

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Speaker 1: But the Rams are off. They're an underdog on the

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Speaker 1: road against Seattle. You know, I think one deficiency they have.

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Speaker 1: It is very hard in the way this modern day

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00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: NFL is played when your quarterback can't really move. You know,

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00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Stafford was twenty to forty two tonight, so he's under

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Speaker 1: fifty percent. He's sacked four times. There is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Cousins had this even when And obviously I'm not comparing

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Speaker 1: Stafford to Cousin. Stafford's a better player, but Goff has

517
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Speaker 1: this little bit too. I say, Goth's a better athlete

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Speaker 1: than Cousins. When you cannot move, they these guys don't exist.

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00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: They're just are not starting quarterbacks. I mean, look, you

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00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: know Denver should have Bo Nicks, Seattle of Sam Darnold.

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00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: New England has Drake May. You saw today Kayleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: CJ can move, doesn't really know where he's going, and

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00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: not great. You see a lot of these quarterbacks, you know, Purty,

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Speaker 1: these guys that have mobility. He has none. So it

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00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: does like you better block form and these guys better

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00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: get open. And obviously they're timing and precisions in the

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Speaker 1: routes have to be key because they kind of play

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Speaker 1: an old school game, and I think is going to

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00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: be really, really hard for him. Now, if they beat Seattle,

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Speaker 1: they will be favored in the Super Bowl. And I'd

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: be kind of stunned if they didn't win it, because

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00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: then it would be pretty conducive for them, you know,

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00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, you know, in a warmer weather place.

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00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: But I think that you know, Sean McVay, this was

535
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: a big night, and this was a big season, and

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: he's had two really good teams the last couple of years.

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00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: They've won a bunch of games, they just didn't really

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Speaker 1: advance far in the playoffs. At one point in time

539
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: when it thought that he might lose this game. That

540
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: gout's pretty big kick in the nuts. To lose back

541
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: to back years on the road in cold weather where

542
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: you're right there, it's like you have a team that's

543
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Speaker 1: capable of not just winning that game, but clearly, you know,

544
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: winning the whole thing, and you lose in the second round, right,

545
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I say this whole time, like in these other sports.

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00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: The Warriors won a championship one year and lost I

547
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: think by fifty to the Memphis Grizzlies in a playoff game.

548
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Like individual playoff games unless they're like six or seven

549
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: or elimination games don't make or break you In football,

550
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: you're on the edge of your seat living with every down,

551
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: especially a game like this that you know it's ten

552
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: to ten right at halftime, no one scores in the

553
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: third quarter, You're like, this is fucking nuts. This is

554
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: the Bears game. This year have just been theater. The

555
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: Rams have played in some great games that The game

556
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: against Seattle was awesome. The game earlier this year against

557
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers against mac Jones was awesome. So

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00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: these teams that there's something, you know, the characters with

559
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: their coaches that was doesn't get any better as a consumers.

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00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: That's his entertaining. I don't need I've said this forever

561
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: back in the day when Mahomes hit the scene and

562
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: he played golf in that game. It was supposed to

563
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: be in Mexico City, but like I don't know, the

564
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: cartel sold the grass or something, so they had to

565
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: play in the Rose Bowl because the Rams that year,

566
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: remember they hadn't built so far yet, so they were

567
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: playing at the Rose Bowl and the final score was

568
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: like fifty eight to fifty f or It's like it

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00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: was fun, But I don't like football like that. I'm

570
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: not into watching, you know, big twelve football. I honestly,

571
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: that's the conference I watched the least. Might have changed

572
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: a little bit with the additions of some of their schools.

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00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Now Arizona State, Utah BYU Texas Tech is more of

574
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: a defensive team, but historically they were always just a

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: bunch of points, no defense. Like I don't I don't

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00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: enjoy that. I enjoyed this game to night, the physicality

577
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: of it, how important every first down was, how important

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: every decision was, like you can't afford to, you know,

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00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: make a poor decision, and it was. It was a good,

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00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: just entertaining kind of throwback game with just some Obviously

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00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: Caleb's pass will I mean he's had I would say

582
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: the craziest stretch of last minute passes. And like I

583
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: don't know the history of the NFL, I've never seen

584
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: anything like it. I never have. And for Bears fans

585
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: that are I know so many people just living here

586
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: in Arizona that are from that general region that I've

587
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: gotten to know, people I see at the gym that

588
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: just come up to me and just start wearing me

589
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: out because they love it. This season has meant so

590
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: much to them. The how much fun the ride of

591
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: that year was it doesn't get any better. So it's

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Speaker 1: why we love It's why we love sports because even

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00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: early on you get a little optimistic. Then you look

594
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Speaker 1: if I would have told you you're hosting a game

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Speaker 1: Stafford and you are gonna be in position to win

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00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: the game in overtime, You're gonna get the ball and

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00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: have a chance to win the game. But are you

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Speaker 1: Grass the Bears on a hell of a season and

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Let's get into the other game.

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I think big picture on Vrabel and the Pats. Remember

641
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when Belichick's last year offensively,

642
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: they had Patricia and like Joe Judge running the offense

643
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: and it did not go well, but their defense actually

644
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: was pretty good. And so the next year when Gerd

645
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Mayo took over and their defense fell apart. Remember Belichick

646
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: was had like seventeen shows on the internet and was

647
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: taking some shots like our defense was pretty good last year.

648
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: This is kind of on you, very bitter, but it

649
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: just reality of curmudgeon Bill but he wasn't wrong. Like

650
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: they did have some good defensive players, and then they

651
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: get Drake May, Josh McDaniels comes back, and they've created

652
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: an offense. There is a grittiness and a toughness to

653
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Like this team that has some similarities to

654
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those Bill and Brady teams. Then when

655
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you watch them, like the group is better than the

656
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: individual some of their parts. Now, obviously Drake May has

657
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: a chance to be I don't know, like one of

658
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the best players in the league right is excellent. Christian

659
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: Zalaz when he's healthy is an elite corner. But like

660
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: they got a lot of guys. You know, a lot

661
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: of people can add Diggs. You know, a lot of

662
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: people passed on Butte from the draft. Who's Booty I

663
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: think his name is. I call him Boute because like

664
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Speaker 1: New Orleans, he is making incredible plays down the stretch

665
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: of this season. But pretty sure he was in the

666
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: first round pick. Like, they got a lot of dudes

667
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: on that team that could have been had by a

668
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: lot of people. Now, they paid quote unquote some people

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00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: say overpaid Milton Williams. They went pretty aggressive in free agency.

670
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: But there is like a cohesion to that group and

671
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: a toughness that clearly starts with Mike, and I think

672
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: there's some similarities with Mike and Bill. Not physically Mike

673
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, former NFL player, Bill looks like

674
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: a guy you'd see at the deli on Tuesday, but

675
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: the way they fundamentally think about football, the toughness, the details,

676
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: the just like unfazed by anything. And the Patriots have that.

677
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: And to go from back to back seasons after the run,

678
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: they had to be drafting third overall. They got Drake

679
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: May then fourth overall, Like, you know, should Will Campbell

680
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: be playing guard? You could also make the argument like

681
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: Will Anderson makes everyone look like that Will Anderson was

682
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: eating his lunch today, Will Anderson. It might have been

683
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: hard for Orlando Pace to slow that guy down. Today.

684
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: Will Anderson looked elite. But what the Patriots do? The

685
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: quarterback can run. They fumbled the ball a couple times,

686
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: and obviously you know the ball was on the ground constantly,

687
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: but there's just an impressive kind of cohesion to that team. Now,

688
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: do I think this is some loaded, super great talent

689
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: to group. I don't. But when you got Mike Vrabel,

690
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: who is a high end NFL coach. You have Josh McDaniels,

691
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: who's probably the best offensive coordinator in the league, who's

692
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: not a head coach, and because of how weird it's

693
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: been in his career, will never be a head coach again.

694
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: They're a motherfucker and obviously with bow Knicks being injured,

695
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: they are favorite on the road in Denver. So, like,

696
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: my initial thought is I have a hard time seeing

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00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback beat this team because when you're the

698
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, you don't get any reps in practice. You

699
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: obviously don't play any of the games in the regal

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: season because their young starter gets them all. You're just

701
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna show up in the AFC championship game. Obviously it's

702
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: easier at home, but still, I mean against a Mike

703
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: Vrabel team, I have a hard time seeing that. I

704
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: really do. Now he's not playing the Houston Texans. Like

705
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Will Anderson and Neil Hunter are coming

706
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: off the eds for the Patriots, but there is just

707
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to say it. They just

708
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: feel like very fundamentally fundamentally tough and kind of boring.

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00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: You know, there's an element to that, so I think

710
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: New England resurrecting this franchise is just pretty remarkable. Again,

711
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: they had back to back draft picks in the top

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00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: five and now they're going to the AFC Championship as

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00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: a favorite. Now, obviously, if bo Nicks hadn't been injured

714
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: and be favored by one or two points, like, they

715
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: would be less than a field goal underdog on the

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00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: road in the AFC Championship. That's how fast he flipped

717
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: it around. They had the easy schedule to benefit them

718
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: and they took advantage of it. They also beat the

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: Bills once, right, so today was impressive. And to have

720
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: your quarterback under that much duress from those two just

721
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: dominant players. I remember when Casario signed daneil Hunter and

722
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: he gave it's pretty rare, right, it was almost like

723
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: a baseball contract. Why I saw Kyle Tecker, the Dodgers

724
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: gave him four years, two hundred and forty million, like

725
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: every penny's guaranteed. Someone else who just signed with the Cubs,

726
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: Ohza Bregman, like all these guys just get like three

727
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: four five year deals with these opt outs, huge guarantees,

728
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: huge yearly averages. They gave Daniel Hunter two years. I

729
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: think it was forty nine million and guaranteed forty eight

730
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: Like that's just a throwback con Like you just don't

731
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: see those type contracts. He's worth every penny and those

732
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: two edges were all all over everyone today and Will

733
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Campbell was fighting for his life. But they figured out

734
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: a way and a huge reason was is the other

735
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: quarterback on the other side was a disaster. Like, let's

736
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: face it, the story of the game was, well, it

737
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: was twofold to me. For Houston, their defense is pretty incredible.

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: They had the best defense in the league. Like Seattle's

739
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: defense is elite, I think Houston's is better. I think

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better in Houston's defense. The amount

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00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: of times that they were able to get off the

742
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: field after CJ. Stroud literally tried to hand the game

743
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: to Vrabel and Drake May. They had a stretch in

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: the second quarter where they went interception one play, interception

745
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: four plays, so they ran five plays, two interceptions, punt

746
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: that was seven plays, and then an interception. He threw

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00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: three interceptions in a stretch of like ten plays. He

748
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: was the one reason I liked the Houston Texans tonight

749
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: in this game was love their defense anyone with the

750
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: brain does. I thought their quarterback after the game he

751
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: just had against Pittsburgh, and I had a buddy on

752
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: the text and say, you know what, Obviously the bad

753
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: plays were really bad, but he made a lot of

754
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: high end plays in that game which were true. So

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought, listen, you get in the lab, you take

756
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: a deep breath. We're gonna play. We're not gonna play

757
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: hero ball. You're not Aaron Rodgers. You're not Caleb Williams,

758
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: even though you tried to sun him last year and

759
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: tell him advice, which is kind of funny now looking back,

760
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: But he did it because CJ's a good guy. CEJ

761
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: means well, people like him, but he also has this

762
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: thing in the way he plays, and Aikman was crushing

763
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: him today, is that he's like trying to justify he

764
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: was the number two overall pick and make plays like

765
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna make two hundred million dollars one day.

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00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Josh Allen. I'm gonna be a Mahomes,

767
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Lamar, I'm gonna be a Joe Burrow.

768
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an elite. It's like, bro we don't

769
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: need that right now, maybe one day. Right now, we

770
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: need you to play like Trendill for we need you

771
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: to play like Brad Johnson. We need you to play

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00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty nineteen manage the motherfucking game,

773
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: and the plays he made today were I mean, I'm

774
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: not one to act like this shit is easy. I

775
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL. I've been to these NFL games.

776
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm on the sideline. I know these coaches and personnel people.

777
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: It is really hard to do this, and I've said

778
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: forever it is way. It's why I'm way more critical

779
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: of front office and coaching that profession that I am

780
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: the players, because it's way easier to become one of

781
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: those than is a player. It is way more difficult

782
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: to ever find yourself strapping up in an NFL game,

783
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: let alone the second round of the playoffs. C J.

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00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Stroud's a very talented player. He's a touch thrower. Though.

785
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud's comp is really much closer to Jared Goff.

786
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: That's his style of game. He is not some power

787
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: player like Calber Josh. He is Jared Goff touch passer. Well,

788
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: what happens in the freezing cold, can't feel your hands.

789
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Why did Jared Goff suck for a long time in

790
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: the cold. He's gotten better as he got older. Is

791
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: his passes. He had no touch on the ball, he

792
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: had no clue where it was going. And you watched

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00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: CZ today, he could not control the ball. Even the

794
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: touchdown he threw to Kirk in the corner of the

795
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: end zone. Kirk, who's kind of an underrated NFL player,

796
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: made a great play kind of boxing out the dB

797
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: and catching the ball. It was behind him. So you're

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: watching CJ. Just his accuracy in that environment is not good.

799
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: It is actually terrible. And then he, you know, I

800
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: would say, makes it even worse, like magnifies the issues

801
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: by trying to play outside of his own skill set.

802
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: He's like, run around doing crazy shit that is just

803
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 1: leading to him getting sacked and throw picks in the air.

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00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Boss's flying up twenty five feet. It's like, what is

805
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: going on? And do you know what's really rare in

806
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: the NBA? You turn on I mean, I don't consume

807
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: any of these, but we all see the clips these

808
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: former players. We'll talk shit about everybody. It's actually one

809
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: thing I kind of respect is like I think part

810
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: of the reason NAY podcasts with the former players have

811
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of success that there you turn on

812
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: a mic, there they will say whatever, which I respect

813
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: because a lot of former players like just kind of

814
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: beat around the bush and stuff. You get some of

815
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: these guys that they will just be taking shots at everybody.

816
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Yet in the NFL, you know, JJ Watt said this,

817
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady said this. Peyton Manning didn't want anything more

818
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: than the Manning cast because like, I'm not I don't

819
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: want to be critical. I know how hard this is,

820
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: which I which I do understand. And when they came

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00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: to halftime and they went right to Kelsey, who's a

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00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: pretty uplifting positive guy, was like, I think you gotta Benjamin,

823
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: and I think everyone kind of looked around like hell yeah,

824
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: you don't have a choice. And Demiko former player you know,

825
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: who's also a positive guy, which is kind of rare

826
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: because he's like this defensive middle linebacker, ass kicker, but

827
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: Demko's energy is very positive. Had to have the thought

828
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: but also like, hey, seas he's giving me my quarterback

829
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: next year. We can't ruin his confidence. In the seventies,

830
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: the eighties, the nineties, probably the two thousands a player

831
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: of CJ stature, meaning hasn't really accomplished that much. It's

832
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: not like he's some all pro. It's not like he's,

833
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best players in the league.

834
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: He's he's not on a contract extension yet, he's on

835
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: his rookie contract. Would have got the hook at halftime

836
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: basically just like yanking, you know, your number one starter

837
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: out of a playoff. He don't have it. And listen,

838
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: we all go through that. I thought Saturday night, after

839
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: not sleeping at all, if you listen to my podcast,

840
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: I thought I was throwing about sixty miles an hour.

841
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have much. I was like, that was a

842
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: terrible podcast. It happens to us all no matter what

843
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: you do, it is inevitable. He did not have a

844
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: good game, his confidence was lost, and he was a

845
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: gigantic liability. And I do think and Casario's very involved.

846
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I do think they made a mistake by leaving him

847
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: in there, because I don't think, and maybe they know

848
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: him better, that he'll lose his confidence. You won't be

849
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: able to get him back. But you had to throw

850
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: a curveball. You could not look Will Anderson, daneil Hunter

851
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: Petrie all those guys in the face and saying we're

852
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: doing giving ourselves the best chance to win with throwing

853
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: him out there. He couldn't play. And right now, Coward

854
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: asked me this tonight, would you give CJ. Stroud an extension? Like,

855
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: to me, it's not even a I wouldn't even have

856
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: the conversation if I'm Casio, if his agent called me,

857
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: It's like, this is not on the table, Like, well,

858
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna give one to Will Anderson. Well, yeah, he's

859
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: one of the best fucking dudes in the league. Your

860
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: quarterback just had a two game stretch in the playoffs

861
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: with like twenty seven interceptions and fumbles, So like one

862
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I need. In this conference, we're lucky in our division

863
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: we play in a dome, the Colts playing a dome,

864
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: the Jags playing ninety seven degrees, and the Titans are

865
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: irrelevant and suck. But in this conference, the Chiefs, the Bills,

866
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Ravens, the Steelers. I mean, there are

867
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams in this conference Denver that play

868
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: in cold weather, like cold, like freezing cold, frigid weather.

869
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: If anyone with a pulse ever resurrects, the Jets like

870
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: this is a place where you're gonna go on the

871
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: road in cold ass games? How many times over the

872
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: course you know, the last twenty five years, mahomes Brady

873
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: Manning outside, I need you to play well in the cold.

874
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: He can't and to me, like, you're not playing well

875
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: enough in the regular season for me to overlook that.

876
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: So we got to have a massive jump next year.

877
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: And part of it's on us, right. We have a

878
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: massive offseason to improve all our offensive line. We have

879
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: our own first round pick. We have the Washington Commanders

880
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: first or second round pick, which I think is in

881
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: the top forty. We got to hit on some players

882
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: free agency. We got to figure out how to keep

883
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: Denil Hunter around here. But we need you to like

884
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: you're not Josh Allen, stop trying to do that. You

885
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: need to become more Jared Goff and play smart. And

886
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: I think CJ thinks he's like this ad liber and

887
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: you saw to night it was like earlier today was

888
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: a nightmare. I mean, that's, let's face it, for a

889
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: guy who was drafted high, he's been a multi year starter.

890
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: That's as bad of a game as you can ever see.

891
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't get any worse and I think one downfall

892
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: of Tamiko is I don't think that would have flown

893
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: with Rabel. I think he's yanked historically, all the defensive coaches.

894
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: He's out of the game. They just wouldn't have tolerated

895
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: it because it's not okay, like this is my defense

896
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: is I mean, they looked incredible. I actually with every

897
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: interception that happened, and they would force them a punt,

898
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean interception, punt, interception, punt. I'm just reading those

899
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: are CJ interceptions. And then the defense like is forcing

900
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: three and outs and Drake may is just it's like

901
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: getting just destroid from all angles. But it's a tough

902
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: one and I think part of that is, like obviously

903
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: your skill set, you're not gonna be Tom Brady or

904
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger thrown through the wind. No one expects you

905
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: to do that, but to be a high level quarterback

906
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL, to be a guy like our organization

907
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: is too well run. We're not going to give a

908
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray contract. We'd rather get thrown off a bridge

909
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: than give it to a contract that's not gonna happen here.

910
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: We're not getting rid of you, but next year is

911
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: a massive, massive year in his career. It really is,

912
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: and honestly could define is he one of those guys

913
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: getting a huge contract or does his career kind of

914
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: derail because, let's face it, if it doesn't go well

915
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: and he has some more moments in these colder weathers,

916
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: even the shitty teams in the cold weather, how could

917
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: you pull the trigger and sign him if he one

918
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: day became available if he can't play in those conditions.

919
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: So I've always been a fan everything I've heard about him,

920
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: Like I become fans of people when I find out

921
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: about them off the field and kind of what they

922
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: stand for, And like, I like everything I've heard from

923
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: my people that know, But like there is also a

924
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: skill set that comes along with it. And you saw

925
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: tonight Stafford and Caleb playing in these conditions. Then you

926
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: saw CJ. You're like, what is going on? California kid

927
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: playing in a dome. I saw one of the basketball

928
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor used to work for Simmons tweet out some

929
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: quotes you have about the things he likes the least

930
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: about football, and one of them was playing in the cold.

931
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Like you can't have that mindset, Like what's Will Anderson

932
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: from Bama went to Bama, plays in a dome. You

933
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: think that guy gives a shit. He he'd play in Iceland,

934
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: he'd play in Alaska, he'd play and he did. It

935
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter he play in the parking lot he played on,

936
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, a turf field, rocks, it doesn't matter. And

937
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I think anytime that's kind of in your head, you

938
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of play like that and you could see it happening.

939
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: So just a disaster. And listen, maybe I'm more excited

940
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: about this because I had money on the Texans, But

941
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: even as I'm watching the game, it's like, twenty one

942
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: to sixteen, like you're right there, it's there to be won.

943
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: And it wasn't because he was that bad. He was.

944
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: I just don't remember anything quite like that, not when

945
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: a defense has been playing that good. Really, not when

946
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: a defense has been playing that good. And I think

947
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: it also gets back to this unwillingness to pull guys. Now.

948
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: I saw Davis Mills bring them back for it in

949
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: a twenty nine to ten game against Jacksonville went how

950
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: many games Jacksonville went thirteen fourteen. They were one of

951
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. He brought them right down. Now.

952
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I get if I remember correctly, I think that game

953
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: was indoors. But still the Yeah, they won thirteen games.

954
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: So it's just that one's tough, man, that one's really tough.

955
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: So congrats to the Patriots, Congrats the Rams. Always you know,

956
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: a really big deal when you when obviously you win

957
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: this round, you're sixty minutes away from being the super Bowl,

958
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: which about as cool as it gets. This is gonna

959
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: be better. We'll get into all the different angles of

960
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: this game and some big picture thoughts. The other big

961
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: topic that I wanted to touch on that I haven't

962
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: yet was John Harbaugh. I do just want to say

963
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: that the amount that there has never been a time

964
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: and this is not gonna last forever. I've been saying

965
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: this for a long time about football. It's not going

966
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: to be this powerhouse, best business in America or one

967
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: of them for the next forty years, for the next

968
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: one hundred years. That's not the way the world works, right,

969
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: Things EBB and flow, things are on top and then

970
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: they're not. They're societal shifts. I mean, there's one going

971
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: on right now with alcohol. Less people drink than ever

972
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: that impacts like if you alcohol sales used to be

973
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: recession proof. Now they're not, and now they get impacted dramatically.

974
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Younger people value their health now more than ever. That

975
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: impacts certain industries more than others. Football will one day,

976
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: I don't know when. I'm not making a prediction that's

977
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: anytime soon, and I'm not rooting for this at all.

978
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: I hope until I'm dead, and if my young son

979
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: loves football, I hope he gets to live through the

980
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: Golden Ages as well. But that's not the way things

981
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: happen typically, right So one day football will come down

982
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: and the money will change. But right now the money

983
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: is a flowing and John Harbaugh just signed a contract.

984
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: You know these college coaches like Signetti or Lane that

985
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: signed for ninety one hundred million dollars, it's typically like

986
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: nine or ten years or seven or eight years. Like

987
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: it's long term contracts. Lincoln Riley was like ten for

988
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: one oh five or whatever. John Harbot signed a hundred

989
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: million dollar contract, five year deal. I mean, if this

990
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: goes well in a couple of years, he will get

991
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: an extension. John Harbbaugh's probably what do you think he's

992
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: been making the last five years? Seventeen million dollars. John

993
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Harbad just in the last like from twenty twenty to

994
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: twenty thirty, well of bank money, Like he's a fortune

995
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: five hundred CEO. He's a man that shows up to

996
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: the office with a whistle around his neck. So it

997
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: is a great time to be a good football coach

998
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: or a great football coach. You were paid incredible amounts

999
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: of money, and John Harbaugh for the Giants made a

1000
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: ton of sense. I've only been to New York a

1001
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: handful of times, obviously lived in the general region when

1002
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: I lived in Philly, but I think it's pretty clear

1003
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: as just a sports fan, the best coaches in my

1004
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: lifetime in New York have been fatherlikes figures. Is almost

1005
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: an understatement that they had. There was just a swag

1006
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: and a boss like feel to him. Bill Parcells, Tom Coughlin,

1007
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: pat Riley coaching the Knicks, Joe Tory coaching the Yankees.

1008
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: You just knew that guy was a one. That guy

1009
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: in a two or three. He's a one. He's the

1010
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: leader of this operation. And I think the Giants have

1011
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: gone through a stretch where they've had a lot of

1012
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: twos and threes. And I've said this forever about the NFL.

1013
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a two or three. The NFL

1014
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: is a great industry to be one it because it

1015
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: pays millions of dollars. Now, if you're a great one

1016
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL, John Harball, you get one hundred million dollars.

1017
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: But John's proven that his family is a family of elphas.

1018
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Jack Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh. Those guys are badasses.

1019
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Like I will spend a lot of time around Jim

1020
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of years when he was coaching the Niners,

1021
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: going to those practices, there was a swag and a

1022
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: feel to him when he walked in a room, when

1023
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: you just saw them. I remember one time at the Combine.

1024
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: I was a young scout and we had a box

1025
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and we're all just like in the box

1026
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know if I got sent on

1027
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: a sandwich run or someone got sent There was like

1028
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: this place that either Howie or Andy loved in Indianapolis.

1029
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: We ordered like twenty five of the sandwiches and we

1030
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: come back in with the bags of the sandwiches to watch.

1031
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, some guys run routes on air or something,

1032
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I'm kind of by the

1033
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: door and I see John and Jim turn in the room.

1034
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: I just and this is twenty ten or eleven, and

1035
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: I see coach read light up and they all hug,

1036
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: and it was just there's something about like these guys

1037
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: were born to be head coaches. Bill Parcells was put

1038
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: on this earth to be the boss. Pat Riley was

1039
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: put on this earth to be the boss, not like

1040
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: the VP of sales, not an assistant coach, to be

1041
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: the head fucking honcho. And the Giants have been desperate

1042
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: to hire someone who can be the head honcho, who

1043
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: can be the leader of the pack, and John fills

1044
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: that role. Now, my one concern is the Giants kind

1045
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: of like the Packers are a throwback organization. They have

1046
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: had an organizational hierarchy that had gone through the general manager,

1047
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: which is kind of rare, like John Schneider has that

1048
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Like Mike Rabil ain't answering anybody. Sean Payton

1049
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: adn't answering anybody. Obviously Less is a powerful guy, but

1050
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Sean probably makes three x's salary. Like if Sean wants something,

1051
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: he's getting it. You know. Typically these coaches like Kyle Shannan.

1052
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: If he wants something, he's getting it, like the lead

1053
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson at this point in time, like you think

1054
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: he's if he wants a player in this upcoming draft,

1055
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: he's getting getting told. No. You think after that year

1056
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: what he just did with the Bears fucking high on crack.

1057
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, so typically coaches have a lot of juice.

1058
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: John Horribull has been very lucky. He got to work

1059
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: with Ozzie Newsom, who is gonna go down right there

1060
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: with Ron Wolf Al Davis short list of individuals, John

1061
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Schneider maybe one day, Howie, I mean, is the great

1062
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: GMS in the history of this sport. And then to

1063
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta who had basically understudied under Ozzie, and their

1064
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: personnel department is elite. So I was told this about Demiko.

1065
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: You have the best part about Dimiko's job. Obviously he's

1066
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: a great coach and knows what he's doing. He don't

1067
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: have to worry about players. Texas personnel department's really good,

1068
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: like Casario can handle that. It helps, you know what,

1069
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald doesn't need to worry about the roster. You

1070
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: know's got that handled. John Schneider, John Harbaugh now and listen.

1071
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: I respect it. He's just telling Ian O'Connor everything. He's like, hey,

1072
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I just I had a steak, two potatoes, mac and cheese,

1073
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: and a glass of Pinot nineteen eighty seven from Napa

1074
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: tonight meeting with Themara's and three other people that I

1075
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: don't even know their name, and he's just like tweeting

1076
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: it out. So he was just telling it all. He's

1077
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: just quoting, like I answer to the owner. He put

1078
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: that out, not in a statement like through the team.

1079
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: He put that his own statement that he told the reporter,

1080
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: which I respect. And John has all the leverage in

1081
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: the situation. The Giants need him, he does not need them.

1082
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: He would get jobs if you wanted to take a

1083
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: year off travel with his family. He would teams lined

1084
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: up for him next year. He is in high demand

1085
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: right The Titans were ready to throw one hundred million

1086
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: dollars out him. Now. I wouldn't take the Titans job,

1087
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: and I would love to live in Nashville, But if

1088
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I was a football coach, wouldn't touch that job. With

1089
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: the twenty football I think it's very risky. It's got

1090
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot of issues going on. The Giants have had

1091
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: issues but it's still the New York Giants. It's one

1092
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: of the most prestigious organizations in all of sports. When

1093
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: it's right, you have all of New York, you're a

1094
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: massive brand, and you also get in at a great time.

1095
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: It's like when Saban took over Alabama. If you do

1096
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: resurrect this, you get extra credit because they've been so shitty.

1097
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: So when I saw that John Harbaugh won't answer to

1098
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, I don't blame him. If I was John

1099
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Harbaugh in what world, like I get the GM, Jerry

1100
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: Reese or God, I forget the guy's name. Who what's

1101
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: the guy's name, Ernie Corsi? Like you answer to the GM.

1102
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: That's not the way it's gonna work here. I'm not

1103
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: answering to that guy because he's Joe Shane. So if

1104
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm the Giants and I get you have this personal

1105
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: relationship with him, I'm sorry you have to fire Joe Shane.

1106
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: This is not an apples to apples situation. But I

1107
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: remember when Mark Davis hired John Gruden, gave him ten years,

1108
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, which at the time was insane,

1109
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: but he had to do it because Tampa was offering

1110
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: a ton of money, and he really wanted John Gruden.

1111
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: He said, John, I'm giving you a hundred million dollars.

1112
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: You're in charge, but I really like Reggie McKenzie. Will

1113
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: you just work with Reggie McKenzie. John, because he just

1114
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: got a hundred million dollars, had to suck it up,

1115
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'll give him a try.

1116
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie was never going to survive with John Gruden,

1117
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He was fired a year later. And

1118
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: then obviously I like Mike Mayock, but that was given

1119
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: at the time pretty risky, hied and kind of backfired.

1120
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: But why wouldn't the Giants go, hey, listen, John, we

1121
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: understand that you don't want to answer to Joe Shane Again,

1122
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: don't blame you. In what world would John Harbaugh take

1123
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: orders about the draft or personnel people to them. But

1124
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: we're also not that comfortable paying a coach one hundred

1125
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: million dollars and then just giving him the ability to

1126
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: pick all the players and make all the personal decisions

1127
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: when you've never done that and if anything, the most

1128
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: successful coach post Belichick, Andy Reid said when he left

1129
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles and got his new job The number one

1130
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: thing he said is like I don't want to do

1131
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: this job anymore. It's it's I want someone to help

1132
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: me out that I know. And that's where I think.

1133
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly. Obviously, I don't think John Harbaugh

1134
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: wants to be the bad guy and go in there

1135
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: and fire him. But I also think the giants then

1136
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: need to step up and just hey, put it on us.

1137
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: I saw this clip on Instagram that this dad was

1138
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: doing an interview. Must have been a finance guy, and

1139
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: he puts in the will for his kids that it

1140
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: is mandatory for them to get a prenup when they

1141
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: get married or they will be kicked out of the will.

1142
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: And he said, part of it is when you get married,

1143
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: especially you know my kids, if they were gonna get

1144
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: married young, you're not always thinking straight. And if we

1145
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: have a family business, you get into this position where,

1146
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: even if you know you don't regret it later on,

1147
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: there is a pretty big risk. But also, I don't

1148
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: want to make you the bad guy in the relationship,

1149
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: so you can look at your significant other and be like,

1150
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: my father is the bad guy. Put it And the

1151
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: dad was like, put it on me. I don't give

1152
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: a shit, say I make it. If we're gonna work

1153
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: for this company, the prenup is mandatory for this operation

1154
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: to keep going. And I was like, that's kind of

1155
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: genius because think how many people have had this conversation

1156
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: over the years. I don't know prenup, But then again,

1157
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have much to bring to the table in

1158
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: the first place. She technically had more assets than me,

1159
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: but I kind of understood. I was like, that's kind

1160
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: of genius. It takes the pressure off the person. The

1161
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: Giants could have easily done that. That would have been

1162
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: the number one thing. Chris and I don't know exactly

1163
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: John's situation of the cancer and fighting it is, but

1164
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: what do you need? We know you don't want to

1165
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: come out, And Diana Russini and Albert Brier are saying,

1166
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: like John Harbud demanded Joe Shane because I think he

1167
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: respects the profession and doesn't want like that blood in

1168
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: his hands. The Giant should have got the hint and

1169
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: figured it out and done it for him that this relationship,

1170
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe that happens over the course of

1171
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: the next week. But if it doesn't, I think that's

1172
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: pretty crazy because clearly John wanted no part of the

1173
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: previous hierarchy and answering to Joe, But to force him

1174
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: then to work with him is just so stupid because

1175
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: you basically have Joe who has a year to be

1176
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: the greatest yes man of all time and do everything

1177
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: he can to prove his worth to this guy, which

1178
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: might never have mattered because you were never going to

1179
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: be his guy. And why didn't you just hire that

1180
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: guy right now? Now? You could argue that every once

1181
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: in a while it happens. It happened with Sean Payton

1182
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: and George Peyton in Denver, maybe it happens with Elliott

1183
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Wolf and Vrabel now. The difference is Elliot Wolf has

1184
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL for like twenty five years. He's

1185
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf's son, pretty highly regarded. I don't know him personally,

1186
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: met him a couple times, never heard a bad thing.

1187
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say he knows what he's doing.

1188
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: Patten was or Peyton always getting messed up. I used

1189
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: to call him General Peyton, but or Patten. I think

1190
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: it might be George Peyton, which would be like Sean Payton.

1191
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: But whatever, I'm sorry to screw up your name. I

1192
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: just talked about Sean Payton so much. If you're listening,

1193
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: which I hope you are, because I'd be pretty cool.

1194
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: I do believe that it's possible to figure it out.

1195
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: But he was another guy that was interviewing for GM

1196
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: jobs forever, and I think the Giant should be really excited.

1197
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: And if you're a Giants fan, this is a massive

1198
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: moment because it brings back credibility for a franchise that

1199
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: was kind of dead, and this situation is the only

1200
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: thing that could derail it. It's just being weird and

1201
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of a waste of everyone's energy of trying to

1202
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: force feed something that doesn't need to be force fed.

1203
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: So that, to me is something I was gonna keep

1204
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: an eye on. I was gonna talk about this other thing,

1205
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: but we've been going for a while. Basically, would you

1206
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: rather lose like the Niners of the Bills? And my

1207
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: theory was, if you're the Chiefs or the Brady Patriots

1208
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: and you've won a lot of Super Bowls, you would

1209
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: rather always lose in excruciating, excruciating factor fashion, right like

1210
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: the Bears deny like and the Bears are you if

1211
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: you've sucked forever? You want to be in the game.

1212
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: You want to play a great game even if you lose,

1213
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: but when you haven't won, losing in the worst possible fashion,

1214
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I just I feel for Bills fans. I really do that.

1215
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: Just I was thinking about that today, Like God, that sucks.

1216
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, their players are all in tears, their fans

1217
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: are in tiers, you know, when you just get beat

1218
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers, Because I think if you

1219
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: would have told forty nine er fans it's like, oh, yeah,

1220
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: we were playing with house money. True, but if you

1221
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: would have been in overtime with Seattle and then lost,

1222
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: today would have been rough. Because you've never won a

1223
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl with Kyle, You've been really close, and now

1224
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: you've been really close again. I think sometimes either just

1225
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: to get your teeth kicked in, then just lose in

1226
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: the worst way possible, over and over and over again,

1227
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: as the Bills have. So both ways suck because you

1228
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: lose and the goal of the game is to win.

1229
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: But the Vikings have gone through this lot over the years,

1230
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: awful losses when you haven't got over the hump, I

1231
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: feel like sting really really hard. And then there's a

1232
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: category that bears where you're just so happy to be there.

1233
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna sting, but within a couple of days you'll

1234
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: be able to hold your head high and be excited.

1235
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: Audios will see you guys tomorrow. I guess we got

1236
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: a college football game, Indiana playing Miami. Like Indiana in

1237
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: that game. Actually, the more I thought about it, probably

1238
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna bet on Indiana wouldn't shock me at all. Stuck,

1239
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: you brought up a good point. Sometimes you look up

1240
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the season that's happened with LSU

1241
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow and they just blow everyone out, Like

1242
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: would it shock anyone if you just Indiana wins the game,

1243
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, thirty eight to ten. I'm tempted, like I

1244
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: want to take Miami. And the more and more I

1245
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: thought about it, like I'm just no betting against this

1246
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: Indiana team. The volume